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Why This Graphic Designer Walked Away From Logos...and Never Looked Back

Most graphic designers think success means landing bigger clients, charging higher rates, or becoming known for logos and branding.

Anton Duong took a completely different path.

What started as a hobby printing stickers turned into a thriving business serving artists, designers, and even major brands like Pop-Tarts and Cheez-It. 

In this episode of the Angry Designer podcast, Anton shares how he discovered an overlooked niche, why taking a 30-day chance changed everything, and how finding the right community helped build a business he never expected.

If you've ever wondered whether there's another path to success in design, this conversation might completely change how you think about your career.

In this episode, you'll discover:
• Why niche businesses often beat crowded design services
• How a simple 30-day experiment became a successful creative business
• Why community, relationships, and showing up matter more than you think
• How stickers became one of the most powerful branding tools 
• The mindset every designer needs before walking away from the industry

Whether you're a freelance graphic designer, agency owner, or creative looking for your next opportunity, this episode is proof that sometimes the best design career isn't the one everyone else is chasing.

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1 SPEAKER_03: Mostly everything that you see on our Instagram

feed, like last year, we were able to work with Pop Tarts,

Cheez Its, and uh yeah, they're real cool.

It's just so crazy that, you know, we get to work with one of

my favorite breakfast treats in the party.

SPEAKER_01: There's one thing that all designers like obsessed

over, and I'm and I'm realizing, you know, it's replaced the

business card.

And that is the sticker.

Okay, everybody goes crazy over stickers.

This is like such, it's become such a cool thing in our space.

And so in hanging out with everybody here, I have met and

made a new friend.

State your name, please.

SPEAKER_03: Hi, my name is Anton Duong, and I run a sticker

company called Sticker Print Go.

SPEAKER_01: Dude, and this isn't just stickers like regular

stickers.

I mean, the stuff that you were showing us, and we'll talk more

about that after, but like it's so cool.

Because I mean it's just not flat stickers.

No.

You know, and it's not like the glittery stickers.

Like, we're talking experimenting with like types

and it's got fabric and it feels like campus, it's so so

texture-like.

Yeah.

But we'll get into that.

We'll get into that.

Okay.

Your story is awesome.

Yes.

Okay.

And I think it's a great story that people need to hear.

So let's start right from the beginning.

SPEAKER_03: So I have been in a lot of different uh businesses

in the past, and uh stickers was kind of like a passion, you

know, like something that you kind of love crafting.

Someone always finds something that they like to do, and this

is probably one of the things that I made as a hobby.

SPEAKER_00: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Um now I'm gonna go way back.

Way way back.

That's okay, that's okay.

So uh I have a sister who's nine years older than me, and the

thing about her is she lived in a time where a lot of people

were living through pop culture.

Oh so they collected anything that was toys all the way to

stickers, books, comic books.

Right.

So my sister was collecting stickers.

So she had all these amazing, like Lisa Frank uh artwork that

she would go through, and if she liked something, she would peel

it off and stick it into a sticker uh album.

Yep, I remember the sticker album.

So sticker albums was kind of like a big thing.

Um yeah, and over the years, you know, we we we keep these things

and we look through them, and it's such a a novelty.

Totally.

So over the years, like for me, um I would stick stickers on

anything.

I collect stickers as well.

And then when I got into middle school, I was actually hustling

stickers.

Yeah, that's and what I mean by that is uh I had a friend who

who had a plotting shop where they would do like t-shirts and

stuff as well.

Uh, and they would cut these decals that usually go on cars.

And then uh being in middle school, I had a lot of different

classes and had a lot of different friends.

So I had this little catalog inside of my folder that would

pass around, and they would look through the catalog and see

which stickers that they want.

So they would order a sticker from me.

Awesome.

I would take a cut, my buddy would take a cut, and it would

take three days to turn around.

So I'm in, you know, middle school walking around like all

these uh kids, I'm delivering stickers and I'm collecting

money.

It's just so crazy.

And I would buy a lot of video games and stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um, but that's one of the stories uh about how you know

stickers has always been around in my life.

SPEAKER_01: But this is so cool though, right?

Like you're right, I never they're so tied to memories, and

this is an incredible one.

Yeah, it's it's a memory, it meant something to everybody

else, and then for you, it's like this is like an early,

early entrepreneurial venture.

Yes, okay, okay, okay.

This is so cool.

SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna fast forward a little bit.

Um, so I was in the beauty industry for over 10 years.

I used to do a lot of packaging for uh a lot of different brands

that we work with.

Yeah, uh the distribution center that I was working at, we were

private labeling a lot of stuff for different brands.

Um, stuff that you would see at like Walmart or like Target and

stuff in the beauty section.

So over the years I would make a lot of different prototypes.

I need some type of printer to print these amazing uh detailed

stuff.

Yep.

Because usually when you um high high-end produce all of these

things across the ocean, uh they need these things to be approved

ahead of time.

So I need something that that people could see and then they

approve on it.

Yeah.

So when I left out beauty industry, I started uh just

doing stickers for fun because I had that machine.

Lo and behold, I met this guy who is a marketing guy who saw

what I was doing, and he said, Hey, what do you think about

turning this into a business?

And his name is Chris Lau.

And I barely knew this guy for about a week.

SPEAKER_01: And then wait, weren't you going to just about

like can your your print equipment get out of the stick?

That's a huge important part.

You can't miss, you can't leave that out.

Oh, of course, of course.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're getting there.

The sauce! Yeah, so so I barely met this guy, and I'm telling

this guy, I was like, hey, um, to tell you the truth, I don't

really want to do stickers anymore.

Because I'm a graphic design guy, I I'm a creative.

I want to go that route to where I can work with brands.

I want to do branding, I want to do logo design.

And I even had a call with James Martin.

We're calling, we're dropping names here.

So I had a I had a call with uh James Martin, and we were on a

one-on-one, and he told me if you want to do branding and logo

design, don't do stickers anymore.

You know, just focus on branding.

Because if you're focusing on one thing, people will always

know you as the branding guy, the logo guy.

Yep.

They wouldn't know you as the sticker guy.

So going back to the guy that I just met, I I just got a call a

call with James, and then I'm going back to this guy.

I said, let me think about it.

I thought about it for two days.

And then my wife said, you know, sometimes you just gotta have

take risks.

Yep.

So I said, you know what?

We'll try it for 30 days.

So I went up to this guy, I said, Hey, you know what?

We only know each other for like seven days.

Let's go ahead and try this for 30 days.

What do you think?

SPEAKER_01: Your equipment at that point was what?

SPEAKER_03: Uh it was a rolling um BN uh printer, and we were

printing some pretty good stuff on it.

SPEAKER_01: So um And it was like it would print on a roll,

they'd be like it would cut as well, right?

So you were actually, so this is not like uh what a lot of people

see.

Flat little printers right now are sticker cards.

This is full roll.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're talking about professional machines that

you know is eight, nine thousand dollars.

Yep, you know, just like any professional camera that you you

would want to check.

SPEAKER_01: You already had it because you were using it for

something else.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I was using it for a lot of like packaging

and stuff like that.

So definitely like uh it was a game changer for me as a as a

graphic designer, a creator for like a lot of different brands.

They see something that they like, they approve it, and we're

ready to you know go on to the next project.

So so yeah, really amazing stuff.

And uh during that time I was learning a lot about different

materials.

I would go overseas to learn like you know how boxes and

stuff uh uh work for a lot of those companies.

So I had a lot of experience with like you know sourcing

materials and stuff.

So uh thankfully because of that I had the skills to do that.

SPEAKER_01: Um you and you and this guy decided to give it how

many days to see if it works?

We gave ourselves uh maybe like two, three weeks.

SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: And and it was like, okay, I'm gonna quit, yeah, but

I'm gonna try this for like you know two, three weeks to see if

it's worthwhile.

SPEAKER_00: One last stab at it.

SPEAKER_01: One last stab and a really tight timeline.

SPEAKER_03: Very much very much.

We actually designed and launched the site within seven

days.

Awesome.

And we only had four products on the site.

That's awesome.

Yeah, and what'd you use to design it?

I use uh Shopify.

SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_03: Um, and then I I took one of the templates that

they had and I gutted everything out.

I have a lot of experience doing like WordPress and stuff, so of

course, like you know, you like to go in and customize things

and make it look like not Shopify.

Yeah, yeah.

So yeah, we just launched that in a week, and then uh my good

buddy Chris just started doing his thing.

We put a couple ads out there, and then he targeted certain

things on on a lot of the social media, and then boom, we started

getting orders coming, one after the other.

And we're like, wow, this this might work.

And then we're like, okay, we'll go another month, see how it

goes.

Keeps going, keeps building.

Yeah, and then one thing led to another, like we're like, okay,

what's next?

We're gonna keep building this thing.

And on on top of that, we live in Orlando, there's a lot of

creatives there, and a lot of people in Orlando order

stickers.

Yeah, cool.

So we started meeting people and they come to us, they're like,

oh, we didn't you guys exist?

Where are you guys been?

Oh, we just started.

Oh, cool, awesome.

It's amazing because like we live in a time where you know uh

people buy stuff on Amazon, they get stuff like the same day or

like second day.

And a lot of times when you order stickers, it takes two

weeks to even get to you.

Even though they say like three to four day turnaround time.

Yeah, you're right.

We actually overdeliver.

Yeah.

We actually like let's say an order comes in today, within a

day or two, we s we send out a message.

If you're if you're local, you can come back to our office and

pick it up.

Jeez, that's it really blows our mind.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah.

Now you're obviously not not just a local sticker shop.

That's yeah, right?

Yeah.

And you continue to keep going and then you keep evolving.

So let's say because I mean it's been now three years, I think,

since we've got a lot of people.

Three years, yeah.

Yeah, three years.

And what does that look like the past three years?

What's growth look like?

SPEAKER_03: Oh man.

Uh we're we're really surprised on how many big corporate

companies reach out to us.

Uh maybe it's someone that we printed for before that is a

designer as well, and then they know that we can deliver.

Yeah.

So I guess that word of mouth really helps us drive more

business.

SPEAKER_01: So you guys are are using paid ads, you're using

organic, using SEO, social.

Talk to us about your whole plan.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we hit a lot of the local markets,

farmers market, uh, artist market.

We would go to any type of event locally just to kind of put our

name out there.

Yep.

And at this point in Orlando, if you always ask someone like, oh,

hey, do you know any sticker place?

They're gonna high, highly recommend us because we are

pretty much the only sticker shop in Orlando.

Yeah.

Not only.

There's a couple other guys too.

Yeah, yeah.

Full respect for them.

Um, but yeah, like organic traffic is actually very

important.

And I think like, you know, hitting at a local level,

everybody likes to support local.

Yes.

And by being there and by providing services for other

people and they know that they can rely on you, that's more

powerful.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fair.

Yeah.

Now, what about um outside of Orlando?

How are you?

Because I mean, again, I thought it's brilliant that you're here

at Creative South.

Yes, you know, for this audience.

Again, you're are you are you you're not just focusing on

graphic designers, are you?

SPEAKER_03: No, I'm I'm not focusing on that only.

Like for me, I I my real job is I I I'm an instructor.

I I teach at the Los Angeles film school.

Very cool.

So um really props to Los Angeles, L A F S.

SPEAKER_01: Um, we're gonna have to end this now since I found

out you're a prof.

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you know We're the good ones, though.

SPEAKER_00: Yes, of course.

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, so you know, like I I I think that you

know by going outside of just being local, we ship national.

Um we kind of build that connection with other people,

other artists that by doing like social media posts and then

letting other people know about us.

And uh when they do find that, you know, they find reviews

online, recommendations of other people.

Uh I mean there's a couple of companies out there that are

sticker companies that kind of went the other route of like you

know supporting different things.

So when that happened, uh it brought a lot of business to us.

And uh they found someone that they that they can trust.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah.

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: So I think building trust with the company, a

sticker company would be very important.

SPEAKER_01: What's the appeal for designers to to I mean,

because your stuff's always it's hilarious.

I love the stuff that you guys are doing.

So are you connecting with graphic designers based on the

stuff you're putting out?

Because we've seen all kinds of sticker companies, and you're

right, a lot of them are just really boring corporate stuff.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because the thing, I I think with stickers

is you know, you you can order anywhere, disprint, whatever.

Um, but you don't really get the whole fun factor when you get to

customize things, things that are new.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Um so people who we work with that are local artists

and national artists, they always say, hey, is there

anything new, something fun that we can work with?

And we always like try to go to like trade shows and we're

always sourcing different materials to see if we can make

a sticker out of it.

Yeah, yeah, because if it sticks, and then you can paint,

uh you can print over it, it could be a sticker.

So why not like try some?

SPEAKER_01: Well, here grab the pack, the pack's right there,

right?

Like, dude, like check this one out.

It's like it's it's the canvas material.

Yeah, I've just seen that steward.

It's just unbelievable.

SPEAKER_00: How did you get it out of there?

Yeah, like feel that, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: So we always like working with like different

manufacturers that like to go uh the extra mile of doing

something different.

Like this uh canvas material, it's still vinyl, but it's

textured in a way where it has that feel like a canvas.

Yeah, yeah.

So if you're printing like you know, artwork or anything like

that, that is like a painting.

Oh yeah, here's another thing people love going to these art

galleries, and a lot of times they don't have money to buy any

of these artwork.

Oh good.

They're spending like I mean, the the price tag on these

things are like$200,$500,$2,000.

And they don't it breaks the bank, right?

Yeah.

But a lot of times if you can turn it into a sticker of like

$5, anyone can afford a sticker.

Yeah.

Anyone can afford art.

SPEAKER_01: Yes.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and they get to bring something home that

they admire.

SPEAKER_01: So I I I mean, I love this.

And I mean everybody keeps collecting them.

You know, now I put them on my skateboards, I've got a

skateboard.

I mean, that's the challenge.

Yeah.

Where do we put them?

Yeah.

So I've I've like adorned a sticker or uh all my stickers

from last year on a skateboard that now hangs on my wall.

And I put lights on it.

It kind of acts like a you know a wall lamp.

It's kind of art.

And I think that's gonna be an annual thing.

Yeah.

Because at least it gives purpose for these.

But again, it's like every one of these have a meaning.

They they have a connection.

It's like, oh, I know the guy who did this.

Yes.

Or I know the designer who did this.

I I like the artist who did this.

Yeah.

So it is, it's it's a fun way to get connected with, I guess.

Well, with designers and artists.

SPEAKER_03: So going back to what you were saying, like uh if

if you're going to like these events, you know, uh as a

designer or a creative, you always give business cards,

right?

And this creative south has become a place where people use

stickers as a currency of meeting each other, meeting new

people.

SPEAKER_02: That's so true.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I I I don't find stickers uh just only for that.

Yes.

I think stickers are kind of like the best way to market

something, yeah, market a brand for a very low price.

Yeah.

Because you pay thousands of hundreds and thousands of

dollars just for like billboard ads, right?

You get it, they get a lot of eyes.

Yeah, but the great thing about stickers is if you order like a

hundred of them, you can scatter it everywhere.

They go on laptops, they go on skateboards, they go on like

water bottles, and it becomes like a walking billboard.

Yeah, it's so guerrilla marketing kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00: It really is, right?

SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people stick it on poles and yeah, just leave

it out.

We do that too.

What um so now again, your market's competitive, saturated.

There are some big players out there.

How are you guys competing against these big brand names?

SPEAKER_03: A lot of these big brands used to do a lot of

marketing where they they would have sales and stuff, but a lot

of them actually kind of draw themselves away from doing that.

Um, and I think it's mainly because they're big enough to

where they have enough clientele.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm guessing.

But we like to be able to uh have people be able to afford

stickers, so we're always continuing to put deals out

there so that way, you know, as a creative or someone who's

vending, they have a chance to buy something that is cheap

enough where they can make a profit off of it.

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah, make a living off of it.

Oh, that's nice, actually.

That's actually really cool.

Um, what does the future of your business look like?

SPEAKER_03: It can only go up from here.

Stick around, yeah.

Stick around.

Uh we're all I just got that.

Yeah.

And I I guess the only thing is, you know, we're gonna continue

finding new products to add to our arsenal.

And you know, when we source different things, it just

becomes uh a new product that you can add to your business,

whether it's food and beverage.

So we started doing labels last year because every every person

that uh we print stickers that are vinyl uh for usually asks

us, oh, do you guys do labels as well?

So we're like, okay, we'll do labels.

Yeah, it's not on our website.

We we don't advertise that on our website mainly because we

have so much people ordering labels.

So our label printers are printing all day.

Yeah, yeah.

Wow.

But it will eventually be on our website.

But if you do need labels, we do offer it.

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: But all custom.

Do you um this is just me thinking out loud here, but do

you display some of the brands or the logos or the cool stuff

that you guys do on your site?

Like you have galleries and shit like that.

SPEAKER_03: We do have a couple of galleries, but mostly

everything that you see on our Instagram feed, if anything is

that is cool that we work with, like last year, uh, we were able

to work with Pop Tarts, really great people, Cheez It's um and

uh yeah, they're really cool, really cool people.

And uh you can find that on our feed.

So every now and then you're gonna see a lot of really very

recognizable brands.

Yeah.

Um, and uh it's just so crazy that you know we get to work

with my one of my favorite breakfast uh you know treats in

the morning.

SPEAKER_02: That's right.

SPEAKER_01: It's poison, and that's so stickerable too.

Like you know what I mean.

Yeah, so then yeah, that's actually a really good question.

Do certain brands lend themselves better to to just

stickers, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a lot of them are actually very open to to

that.

Um and some are very a little conservative, but um, I mean we

we respect them either way.

Yeah, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00: So they're they're all great brands out there.

What's what's the craziest thing you've made a sticker out of?

SPEAKER_03: Oh, craziest thing that we've made stickers out of.

Oh man.

Um we do, I mean, I we don't we don't like paper.

I mean, it does it last that long, but we always have people

asking for paper, and uh there's this person that was doing um uh

like I guess wine labels.

Like they have this wine labels that are expensive.

Yes, they're very expensive.

Oh my god, like uh they have uh estate paper, yeah, and we were

making like um uh I guess this real estate company where they

just want to peel off all the wine labels and then just stick

on it.

Put their own thing on it, yeah.

Right, right.

We're like, oh okay, that's uh that's a weird request.

Okay, cool.

And then uh yeah, you have to peel everything off and then

stick new labels on.

So yeah.

Um but we would they want us to do it for them, so we were just

soaking all of the bottles, the wine bottles into like you know,

these buckets, and then you would peel everything.

Peeling it off.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean it's a marketing tool.

There's so many things that you could do with stickers, right?

Like from exactly that, you know, taking a wine and just

making it your own for a promotion to you know just

handing it out as business cards.

I think you're only kind of limited to I guess I guess your

creativity, your imagination for this kind of stuff, right?

I love the sticker packs.

Everybody's doing sticker packs now, which is insane.

Yeah.

Do you guys even get into like the the the foiling and and and

packaging it all up and such?

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we have a couple of clients that require

like uh us to do like the full fulfillment.

So we would print the backing paper, we would print the tents,

so depending on what type of style that you want to package

stickers, we have the staff to do that.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's of course all custom and stuff.

So it's always cool to you know see and work with artists, and

that's the thing that that a lot of people don't do at uh a lot

of print shops is all they do is just hit print.

They don't really work a whole lot with like, oh, maybe we can

use these type of materials for this.

Oh, you come up with like all different ideas to like you know

build a sticker pack.

Yes.

Because not only like is it like holographic stuff, yeah, I know

canvas material, um, but some people only stick to one type of

material.

SPEAKER_01: Right.

Some of them that's kind of cool.

That's awesome.

So as as an as a graphic designer who uh pivoted uh into

sticker production, what kind of advice do you have to people who

are uh frustrated right now, who are you know frustrated in their

space, the competition, maybe they're they're debating on

leaving.

And we always recommend pivot, don't leave.

Yeah, yes, you know, you've got experience, stick in our space

and just find something else.

You did it and you did it quite successfully.

Yes.

What kind of advice do you have for them?

SPEAKER_03: Uh just continue.

Take risks.

You never know who you're gonna meet, when you're gonna meet

him.

Uh there's always a right time, right place for something.

Yeah.

And when it does happen, you might go, uh, how did we get

here?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And always putting yourself out there is always important

because if I didn't put myself out there, I wouldn't meet you

guys.

Yeah, I would meet Mike who runs Creative South.

Um and I guess like during the time when I was working in the

beauty industry, I was very conserved.

I I was very I was in my own bubble.

Right.

SPEAKER_02: Yes.

SPEAKER_03: I didn't really go out there and meet other

designers or anything because I'm working in the morning, I go

home, eat, and then start the next day over again.

So I until I left business, I was like, Oh, what what is out

there?

Oh, these are my people.

Yeah.

Yeah, right.

Oh I found my people, you know.

SPEAKER_01: Right.

And it is the cool thing is that it's such a cool group of

people.

Why would you want to leave this space?

I mean, I don't think that designers actually step out and

meet other designers, hang out, you know, kind of do this kind

of community stuff.

Because once you start getting into these circles, you know,

like it's three years now I've known you, right?

I just found out about the whole drifting thing and the protocols

are.

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I have a whole thing.

Hopefully, like if you guys do come out next year and I'm doing

the talk, I'm gonna be sharing a lot of really cool stuff.

SPEAKER_01: So that's great, right?

This is awesome.

SPEAKER_03: Oh, one more thing I'd like to share.

Um so we're talking about community, right?

It's always great to be out there.

Um I started this thing in Orlando called the stick and

slap sticker show.

So this is gonna be our third year doing it.

For the last two years, we had uh we our first year was 60

people, yes, 60 artists, second year was 80 artists, this year

we're gonna go up to 100 artists.

So it's all local in Florida.

Maybe someday we'll open it up.

And we put all of these stickers that are themed to a specific

theme.

We put in the gallery where everybody can come and see and

also buy a sticker.

And going back to like, you know, uh, if you wanted to buy

posters at a poster show, it's like twenty to twenty five

dollars a poster.

Right.

And uh thanks to Jason Craig for you know helping me kind of

think about all the logistics of this because he he's an amazing

person.

He puts on really amazing poster shows, so uh props to him on

that.

Um but yeah, like uh all these amazing people would come.

And last time we had it, we had over 500 people show up.

SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was so many people there that I was like,

whoa, what what is going on?

A lot of people sold lots of stickers, and there was even

some people that were um working for different companies that

were looking for artists, they were there jottning down names

and then reaching out to these artists.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah, holy crazy idea too.

Yeah, so if you're ever in Orlando at the right time, come

out and check it out.

Well you gotta put that stuff online so we can see it on.

I mean, again, I don't know if I'm gonna come up with When's

the next one?

SPEAKER_03: Uh it's gonna be uh in September, October.

It's gonna be at a gallery called uh City Arts.

Okay.

Yeah, we we we're not we haven't announced a theme yet because uh

uh in that space there's a lot of different exhibitions.

Yeah.

And usually they kind of coincide with like uh uh the

same theme.

Yeah.

So I kind of want to follow that tradition and basically meld

that together.

So whatever theme it is, uh we're gonna represent it.

We're gonna represent it really well with the community.

SPEAKER_01: Are are those artists gonna be on your

Instagram?

SPEAKER_03: Uh yes.

Or is it a different Instagram?

Uh it's it's a uh different uh Instagram handle.

It is um at stick and slap orlando.

SPEAKER_01: Stick and slap orlando.

Stick and slap orlando.

All right, well that we're gonna check.

SPEAKER_03: And then how are people gonna find you?

Uh they can find me at Anton Duong on the socials, and also

you can find my business at stickerprint go.

Stickerprint go.

SPEAKER_01: Dude, I love this talk.

This is so fun.

This is so cool to hear about the stories about how people are

gonna get up and stay in the industry, not leave the

industry.

SPEAKER_00: And it's and especially putting a timeline on

it.

Yeah.

This is the day.

We're going to this point, and if it doesn't work, screw it.

That's brilliant.

That's crazy that.

Because you don't know until you do it.

Yeah, but that's all yeah, that's that's our gutsy, man.

Like that's really.

SPEAKER_01: And giving yourself a timeline.

So many people, I mean, again, you know, you got your your uh

challenges, you know, I'm gonna get your logo challenge, your

90-day poster challenge.

Yeah, you know, giving yourself a timeline almost forces you to

commit just a small amount of time and look what come out of

it.

Like a whole flipping business.

Amazing stuff.

Yeah.

So keep doing it.

Yeah, keep doing it.

Hope you guys got a lot out of this.

Um, again, I love these these conversations.

They're totally inspirational for me anyway.

But again, I think the message here is, of course, you know,

don't leave.

Pivot.

Because I mean, God knows what you can find in this place.

That's right.

All right, Angry Designers.

My name's Massimo.

My name is Sean.

You are?

Anton Duan.

Stay creative, and stay angry.

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