Ray J Speaks On Cardi B Hurting His Feelings, Fighting Orlando Brown, & Answers If He’s Really Dying. (Part 2)
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Speaker 1: Do you.
Speaker 2: Do you.
Speaker 3: Do you intentionally say controversial things to entertain or is
Speaker 3: that just you?
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't I don't know what I'm
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 4: keeping it real like I don't know what's happening. Like
Speaker 4: it's never, it's never like intentional because again, what we
Speaker 4: are saying, what we are saying, I have some kind
Speaker 4: of truth and I'm making some kind of sense. Are
Speaker 4: it's just the way I'm wording and I think and
Speaker 4: the way I'm putting it where I'm putting this crazy,
Speaker 4: But it's probably louder than than other people how to
Speaker 4: explain stuff. You know what I'm saying, but it makes sense.
Speaker 4: I don't do anything intentional. I just I just don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck, you know, and you can you can smell.
Speaker 1: It, don't give a Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're controlled chaos. I think you're
Speaker 3: I think you're a genius.
Speaker 5: Thank you, man. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I think you've been able to evolve every decade.
Speaker 5: Thank you, broon.
Speaker 1: And find a way to be like super people are
Speaker 1: always talk.
Speaker 3: I really think that you like you've evolved in this
Speaker 3: industry more so than a lot of.
Speaker 4: People can thanks, man, And you know, I took a
Speaker 4: lot of l's man, and yeah, I've taken so many
Speaker 4: to where they all became lessons. Yeah, and and there's
Speaker 4: still lessons moving forward.
Speaker 5: Sure does it? Does it bother me? Not at all?
Speaker 5: Do I want to make my family proud?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Do I want to make the people around me proud? Yes?
Speaker 4: Do I want them to feel comfortable when I go outside?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: You know, And I don't know if I've I've done
Speaker 4: that yet, you know what I mean? But I think
Speaker 4: over time people can't understand that. You know, it's it's
Speaker 4: not a it's not an act. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 4: being free and a lot of people just can't be
Speaker 4: that because a lot of people want to be perfect.
Speaker 5: A lot of people want to be perfect.
Speaker 4: If I get out the car and I'm recording and
Speaker 4: I accidentally fall, I'm gonna post that video. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna tell them to shoot it again because I got
Speaker 4: out the car and I feel So if I get
Speaker 4: out the car again and I don't and it's the
Speaker 4: perfect hop out.
Speaker 5: The car walk in, it shows you that.
Speaker 4: The insecurity behind the perfect shot versus the real shot
Speaker 4: you know, the real you versus the super cool crowd.
Speaker 4: You you know what I mean. And a lot of
Speaker 4: people want to be in this cool crowd. They want
Speaker 4: to be at the jay Z brunch, and they want
Speaker 4: to be at the fly place with the Tier one party,
Speaker 4: and they want to get in so they want to
Speaker 4: move a certain way, and then they want to ridicule
Speaker 4: the other people who absolutely don't give a fuck, and
Speaker 4: and it, you know, for me, I would rather stay
Speaker 4: out of the cool crowd and just create another crowd
Speaker 4: and just just not give a fuck, you know, and
Speaker 4: and and also make sure that the cool crowd knows
Speaker 4: that I don't give a fuck. And if I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck and it's an issue, I'm still gonna
Speaker 4: say something about you too, because I wasn't invited anyway
Speaker 4: to the cool crowd party, right, So sorry, fuck off.
Speaker 3: You say like you don't give a fuck, but like
Speaker 3: you got a lot of people that care for you.
Speaker 5: You got kids, and yeah, I care, care, but I
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: I understand that, But you understand that like the people
Speaker 3: who love.
Speaker 4: You, Yeah care, you know I care, but I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck. Okay, because it's all transparent it's all real.
Speaker 4: I'm always gonna do people right. I'm always gonna respect
Speaker 4: people's time, I'm always gonna be professional, I'm always gonna
Speaker 4: be on point if we need to work. I'm always
Speaker 4: gonna be honest with anybody. I'm always gonna look out
Speaker 4: for my kids. I'm always gonna make sure my baby
Speaker 4: mamas could. So with all of those things happening, why
Speaker 4: would I give a fuck? I'm doing my I'm doing
Speaker 4: my job because I care. I care about the most
Speaker 4: necessary things and that that's that matters more than anything.
Speaker 4: Once that's done and accomplished, Why would I give a
Speaker 4: fuck If I'm over.
Speaker 5: Prepared for the meeting?
Speaker 4: And I know when I go in there, whether I'm
Speaker 4: trying to scale a business or start it from scratch,
Speaker 4: or invest in something or or be a character or whatever,
Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna execute my job on point one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. So why should I give a fuck? Is
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And that's only because because I care.
Speaker 4: As weird as that sounds, Brandy still talk my sister. Yeah,
Speaker 4: She's everything to me.
Speaker 3: What's the conversations like, this is your older sister? There
Speaker 3: really is none, There really is no we talk about.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, like I see be and talk to
Speaker 3: me all the time.
Speaker 4: I mean, she's her and my mom and dad are
Speaker 4: the people who gave me an opportunity and still are
Speaker 4: sticking by me through the ups and downs. She's beyond
Speaker 4: one of the greatest people I know and somebody that
Speaker 4: I look up to and admire and and I appreciate everything.
Speaker 4: And we talk all the time, right, you know, there's
Speaker 4: things that I do that she might hit me and go, bro,
Speaker 4: you tripping and we'll talk it through, right, And the
Speaker 4: same with me. I might be like, be you tripping
Speaker 4: And that's just what brothers and sisters do, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But there's no there's no bond like
Speaker 4: Brandy and myself and what we have. And and I
Speaker 4: love her, you know, I love my kids. I love
Speaker 4: my wife. I love my mom, my dad, my immediate family.
Speaker 4: Like this is like a this is real. So there's
Speaker 4: there's there's nothing, there's nothing bad or negative about it.
Speaker 4: Certain places I couldn't go because I was tweaking at
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was tweaking and doing ship and saying ship that
Speaker 4: was out of bounds.
Speaker 2: You say that do you want to get back with
Speaker 2: your wife?
Speaker 3: And if you want to, you know, but are you
Speaker 3: do you think you're doing the necessary things to walk
Speaker 3: in that direction? You know what I'm saying, you can't
Speaker 3: like And I'm gonna put this in basketball terms, Like
Speaker 3: I done been around the game, and everybody say they
Speaker 3: want to be great, but are they doing the things
Speaker 3: necessary to be great? You say you want to get
Speaker 3: back with your wife, and you think that you're doing
Speaker 3: the necessary things to be to be with her, to
Speaker 3: be with her, Like we can say anything, we can
Speaker 3: say what we want to do, but are we doing
Speaker 3: what we need to do?
Speaker 4: I could do better. I could do better image wise,
Speaker 4: probably ye, image.
Speaker 1: What happened to that girl that she was rolling around
Speaker 1: with and you took her on the breakfast club and
Speaker 1: all of that.
Speaker 5: I mean we broke up.
Speaker 4: I mean we raver was really together to break up,
Speaker 4: but I really had love for her and I saw
Speaker 4: our future with her in the entertainment business, and I
Speaker 4: felt like she could be a powerhouse influencer, streamer and
Speaker 4: she got it, like she understood the program.
Speaker 5: But it just didn't work out. And I wish her
Speaker 5: nothing but the best.
Speaker 4: But but I'm happy that we're not together because we
Speaker 4: like really not and so like like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I want my wife to know that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: because my wife's not going to get back with me either.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen, but I want it to happen.
Speaker 3: But you got to do the necessary things, like you
Speaker 3: want it to happen.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but the whole is, doug, Bro, it's a
Speaker 4: deep hole, meaning like I'm in too deep.
Speaker 5: Bro, Yeah, I'm in too deep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I can't be right, like like even us
Speaker 4: are talking right now, nothing in this interview is gonna
Speaker 4: probably make her feel like I've.
Speaker 5: Elevated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we want things to happen overnight. But it's
Speaker 3: a process. It's building blocks of steps, it's levels. You
Speaker 3: play freshman, sophomore, JV's, varsity, you gotta graduate to the
Speaker 3: next level.
Speaker 2: Like you know, if you're not willing to get better and.
Speaker 5: Get better, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: It's just change, Just.
Speaker 1: Change, change, though, because when the when for women, when
Speaker 1: the whole is dug up, it's really hard to look
Speaker 1: past so much shit. I'm gonna keep it real, Like,
Speaker 1: even if we want to be with someone, we feel
Speaker 1: so on edge and defensive because you hurt us so
Speaker 1: many times that it's like there's been relationships that I
Speaker 1: had that I really still wanted to be with that person,
Speaker 1: but I really couldn't because I'm like, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: you any favors by being with you, because every day
Speaker 1: I don't trust you, I'm gonna be questioning your every move.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel insecure about little shit, and then you're
Speaker 1: gonna get frustrated with me because then men they do
Speaker 1: a bunch of fuck shit, and then they get frustrated
Speaker 1: when they have to be held accountable, do the work,
Speaker 1: show that they're honest, show they start to get annoyed
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you always want me to do this,
Speaker 1: but when you go, you.
Speaker 4: Know it didn't work. It's just the time, it's like, Yo,
Speaker 4: what the fuck is this? This isn't fucking like we're
Speaker 4: we're not training for the Olympics. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like it goes for me. It's just it's the subject matter. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like the things that we talk about, like like, I
Speaker 4: don't think I said anything wrong today, and I don't
Speaker 4: think even when we were talking about the whole thing
Speaker 4: with the trans hoorme girl, or sticking my finger up
Speaker 4: up somebody's ass, right.
Speaker 5: I think that that.
Speaker 4: Alone eliminates me from being with my wife. Just the conversation,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just the conversation. I think
Speaker 4: in order for me to to in my opinion, to
Speaker 4: to to to advance back into that world, then I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to not be me anymore. I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to change how I talk when when questions are asked,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say, yo, we're not speaking on that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I've elevated and I'm in
Speaker 4: another world now, so I don't I don't you know,
Speaker 4: I don't talk like that that was in my past.
Speaker 4: I've moved forward as a man and you know, I
Speaker 4: just want to walk down this positive path. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 4: shut the fuck up, right, That's how it goes because
Speaker 4: because then I'm not being what I want to be.
Speaker 2: But then, you know what women to do. They'll be like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not worth.
Speaker 4: That exactly, but she is worth but she's worth everything
Speaker 4: and more. But you can't like everybody was born by theyself.
Speaker 2: For sure. I mean, you got some twins and triplets.
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, but they were but they but they but they.
Speaker 5: But they was all still born. They were all still
Speaker 5: born up. They were all still born alone.
Speaker 4: Had no dialogue, right even though I love triplets.
Speaker 2: Got cut out at the same time.
Speaker 4: What you said, Yeah, but they wasn't in each other's soul, right,
Speaker 4: And I think stupid. I just feel like I just
Speaker 4: feel like just I don't know this whole everything's fucked.
Speaker 1: Do you think that it's fucked because you think that's that's.
Speaker 4: That's the design of life. Nothing's gonna get better, It's
Speaker 4: always gonna get worse.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that you have to take accountability for
Speaker 1: the part you play in your own suffering because a
Speaker 1: lot of us we create these situations and then we
Speaker 1: are like life is fucked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think life is fucked. It never like the
Speaker 4: end is never good. Tell me somebody who had a
Speaker 4: good ending.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's tons of people who had a good ending.
Speaker 1: I know these people.
Speaker 4: If you don't know one person, that means that it's
Speaker 4: not true. Give me one good person had a great ending.
Speaker 2: What's what's what's a good ending? Like death? There's nothing
Speaker 2: good about death.
Speaker 1: We don't know that. Also, we can't say that.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm talking the person that died is probably good.
Speaker 1: That's what I always say.
Speaker 4: We're still here though, so here the memories, the sadness,
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna have good moments, but it doesn't equal
Speaker 4: to all the bad moments you're gonna have.
Speaker 5: The bad moments are weigh the good.
Speaker 1: Damn. I'm sorry you feel that way, because.
Speaker 2: Well, the bad things always get remembered.
Speaker 4: No, I think the bad things are just how you
Speaker 4: feel too, Like if you give a fuck, then it's
Speaker 4: gonna be worse, but if you don't, then it's a
Speaker 4: little more chill. As it gets bad, Like it gets
Speaker 4: real bad for me, I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm crying. It does get really bad, but I will
Speaker 1: say that I think you know, it just depends on
Speaker 1: how you handle it and how you come out of it.
Speaker 1: Like there's everyone got bad shit, Like I got knocked out, Yes.
Speaker 4: Hands up in the air, Yeah, on the ropes, fell down,
Speaker 4: didn't know where the fuck I was punched, drunk, talking
Speaker 4: shit right, OK, that wasn't bad to me, it was
Speaker 4: bad to everybody else. It was great, and I think
Speaker 4: it helped me advance to the new fight to people
Speaker 4: kind of breaking down the wall of feeling a certain
Speaker 4: way about what we've been doing and having just a
Speaker 4: tad bit of sympathy for me, right, which matters. You know,
Speaker 4: it feels good. That's my opinion on it. That's me
Speaker 4: and me getting knocked out. Yeah, did you prepare for
Speaker 4: the fight?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I trained with Victory, train with rampage.
Speaker 5: I mean I probably trained for a few days.
Speaker 2: That's see what I'm saying said, I trained for a
Speaker 2: few days. That was your second time putting on gloves.
Speaker 5: I never put on gloves.
Speaker 2: That was the first time puts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the first.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: But I went in there like yo, Like if you
Speaker 4: saw the intro, I felt like him, Like I.
Speaker 5: Was in that bitch bro and they're like I was
Speaker 5: twenty nine and oh right, I was in my own movie.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's too many walk INDs with Floyd. You know
Speaker 3: he didne walked in the rig with like a number
Speaker 3: of our letters, so he felt he felt he finally
Speaker 3: got that energy.
Speaker 5: I was him.
Speaker 2: He was him.
Speaker 4: And then when I got knocked out, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: what the fuck's going on?
Speaker 5: Because it was all it got. It got real like.
Speaker 4: Slow, yeah, like life started to like move slow. Because
Speaker 4: I was getting knocked out and I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: I'm getting knocked out. And then I like, as I
Speaker 4: went like that in slow motion, I saw Chris Brown,
Speaker 4: I saw Adrian Broner, I saw Dean on the side,
Speaker 4: I saw everybody, and the one person that wasn't laughing
Speaker 4: was Ab.
Speaker 5: He was pissed. Yeah, he didn't like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that I think that was because
Speaker 4: he's experienced something like that, and he's experienced that as
Speaker 4: a real you know, as a champion, professional fighter, right,
Speaker 4: and he and I think he he he felt a
Speaker 4: different way. But I wanted everybody to have a good time.
Speaker 4: Whether you were laughing or not, it's fine to me.
Speaker 4: I'm not tripping. But as I was getting knocked out
Speaker 4: and at the corner of my eye, I was able
Speaker 4: to see a few of the homies, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: So falling down you half hour you look, you know
Speaker 2: that's what he's saying.
Speaker 4: It was like, it was like, I'm like, I was
Speaker 4: mad because I really wanted to win, but you didn't
Speaker 4: do nothing.
Speaker 5: I swung.
Speaker 1: I see a pattern with you to prepare. The pattern
Speaker 1: with you is you really want things, but you don't
Speaker 1: do the work to get them.
Speaker 5: I really want my.
Speaker 1: Wife back, but you're not doing any of the steps
Speaker 1: it takes to get to that luge.
Speaker 5: It's like I want my wife back.
Speaker 1: I want her back, but not enough to do the work.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to fight and I wanted to win,
Speaker 4: but you didn't do the work. Things just don't happen
Speaker 4: your way at the time.
Speaker 1: You gotta do the work. So what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do this time?
Speaker 5: So what do you do? You get back up and
Speaker 5: you try again.
Speaker 1: Come on, so what are you gonna do?
Speaker 5: We're not gonna win every game for sure, But what
Speaker 5: do we do? We get back up and we try again,
Speaker 5: We prepare to try again. You all you got to
Speaker 5: do is get back up.
Speaker 1: But you have to prepare.
Speaker 5: You gotta do is show up.
Speaker 1: So are you going to do anything?
Speaker 4: Just think about it like this. Okay, what if I
Speaker 4: don't train it all? Just just let me give give
Speaker 4: you this analogy. I don't train it all and I
Speaker 4: knock him out, then what are we talking about?
Speaker 2: If you lose to let me tell you something, bro.
Speaker 3: Bro, if you lose to Orlando Brown me and you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to have a sit down, bro, Like you
Speaker 3: can't lose you. We're gonna have to have a one
Speaker 3: on one sit down and I'm gonna be like, hold on,
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to pull the homies in the rule
Speaker 3: and be like, hold on, dog, I'm getting it's gonna
Speaker 3: be really no, it's gonna be like we're gonna have
Speaker 3: to take you to the park.
Speaker 2: We're aout to take you to the park and be
Speaker 2: like hold on, bro.
Speaker 5: And that's pressure.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm pressure.
Speaker 4: But the first fight, the first fight was I get
Speaker 4: the first fight was like three hundred people there, maybe
Speaker 4: five hundred. I'm fighting in front of twenty thousand people.
Speaker 2: Let's go there.
Speaker 5: Second fight meaning like meaning like I'm like the black
Speaker 5: Jake Paul pauls falls pause. I'm the black Jake Paul.
Speaker 1: How's that pause?
Speaker 2: No? I said we got people, you know whatever.
Speaker 5: I think and I heard it. But I'm the black
Speaker 5: Jake Paul.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what are you gonna do to do this? Though? Like,
Speaker 1: because Jake Paul be he really.
Speaker 2: Can you tell what Anthony Joshua knocking him ounty Waite Champion?
Speaker 5: What you mean it's the same ship. It's a nigga
Speaker 5: knocking a nigga out.
Speaker 2: No, it's different.
Speaker 5: That's not fair. You're not gonna get in the ring
Speaker 5: with Browner he wouldn't get in the ring with But.
Speaker 2: I'm just you're not gonna get in the ring with
Speaker 2: I would get in the ring with Garcia.
Speaker 5: I didn't mean to kill this bug, but it was insie.
Speaker 3: I don't care what I'm saying, Like you don't want
Speaker 3: to get in a ring with a professional BA know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I would get in the ring with anybody who put
Speaker 5: me in the ring with Ball right now?
Speaker 2: You know what? Right? You know what?
Speaker 5: I get in a ring with Jake Vau.
Speaker 3: You are, like I said, You've evolved through three or
Speaker 3: four decades.
Speaker 2: You get it. You're entertainer.
Speaker 4: If I get knocked out by Orlando Brown, listen, I
Speaker 4: love the fact that.
Speaker 3: You're not afraid to take risks like that's admirable. Regardless
Speaker 3: of what people say about you, regardless of the booze
Speaker 3: or the cheers.
Speaker 2: You're gonna do it your way. I like. And you're
Speaker 2: not gonna shy away from the embarrassment of it either.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 4: And that's that's what most people can't can't prepare for it.
Speaker 4: I was just talking to hit maker. We got into
Speaker 4: an argument and I love him, but he was saying,
Speaker 4: I'm going outside, and I'm like, actually, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: we're on our way up. And so some people may
Speaker 4: feel a certain way, and you know it, it hurts,
Speaker 4: but it only hurts for like, you know a couple
Speaker 4: of seconds when we talk in Yeah, everybody wants to
Speaker 4: fucking look good. Everybody wants to be rich until they
Speaker 4: broke for sure. Everybody wants to be successful until you're
Speaker 4: not anymore. Then you never wanted to be successful, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Everybody wants to be an execus
Speaker 4: until you're fired.
Speaker 3: Well, everybody wants to be an executive until you become
Speaker 3: the executive and understand what being an executive is all about.
Speaker 3: And then you don't want it no more because you
Speaker 3: can't handle what comes with it, like like like me
Speaker 3: being one of the NBA player or a kid wanted
Speaker 3: to be this, You become that, and then you see
Speaker 3: what come with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it ain't all glitten glamour, glitsen glamor like you
Speaker 4: thaw exactly, and then you thought it was just easy street.
Speaker 3: And when you understand like the death threats and the
Speaker 3: people after you in the in the and and now
Speaker 3: you got enemies like that. Before you just lived.
Speaker 4: The life because they they thought it was gonna that
Speaker 4: was gonna be forever, right, But everything has its different
Speaker 4: levels of time. So you're gonna be popping and then
Speaker 4: you're not gonna be popping.
Speaker 5: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: How do you deal with that? Me?
Speaker 4: I love it, yeah, because I get it and I
Speaker 4: know the math of it. So whether it's ridicule or
Speaker 4: whether it's success, for me, it's all the same. And
Speaker 4: I think that's what that's the difference between me not
Speaker 4: dressing up at the BT Awards and coming in my
Speaker 4: house shoes and another nigga going and taking two or
Speaker 4: three weeks to find his outfit.
Speaker 5: Same shit. Were both here, we're both on the show.
Speaker 5: We're both here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the carpet. But you did all that
Speaker 2: to be here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you stood in line.
Speaker 4: I walked right through everything and just walked in and
Speaker 4: just not gave a fuck and still was on the show. Hello. Wow,
Speaker 4: while you still call me uncool, they were They wasn't
Speaker 4: with you, Ray, they were laughing at you.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how you look at it, That's how you
Speaker 4: look at it and didn't laugh at me, didn't fan
Speaker 4: because I just got off the phone with Drew Ski
Speaker 4: and I told him, congratulations, man, you did a fucking
Speaker 4: stellar show. The show he fucking killed it. And that's
Speaker 4: my nigga. And he had jokes and I was I
Speaker 4: was a part of I was a part.
Speaker 2: Of the joke.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 1: That was dope.
Speaker 4: So it's just your perspective of it, like however you
Speaker 4: perceive what's going on in life or you or me
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 5: But it just to me.
Speaker 4: I would love to go to the jay Z Brunch,
Speaker 4: but I don't expect the invitation. So if I don't
Speaker 4: go to the jay Z Brunch, I don't go. A
Speaker 4: lot of people say, damn, I ain't ship. I didn't
Speaker 4: make the jay Z Brunch. I gotta work harder to
Speaker 4: get that invite.
Speaker 1: What's the rock brunch?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: It's a supreme.
Speaker 1: What made you want everyone to know you had new
Speaker 1: underwear on that day?
Speaker 4: Just because I didn't have a belt, and so I
Speaker 4: didn't want them to think that it was actually my butt,
Speaker 4: like you're not looking at my asked.
Speaker 5: Underwear?
Speaker 1: Yes, smart, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: A lot of people remembered that, just like they remember
Speaker 4: me in the shower with Kai. Excuse me, so everybody
Speaker 4: when I was trying to take a shower with Kai right, oh,
Speaker 4: the cause I got was like, bro, you're tripping, now
Speaker 4: you crashing.
Speaker 5: It's not cool.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was an avalanche of negativity coming in
Speaker 4: from my friends, from my colleagues, from the family. And
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, I'm in the shower with
Speaker 4: the nigga and then we locked in and then I
Speaker 4: do all the night shifts with him, and then we
Speaker 4: take over the streams.
Speaker 5: He didn't want me in the shower. He ran he
Speaker 5: got out of there. He didn't know he ran out.
Speaker 3: And it was, of course, because I have some thun
Speaker 3: duns on what is that the Hanes the old school
Speaker 3: hand everybody don't it.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: The old school.
Speaker 4: But I ended up making history with him on the
Speaker 4: Mafia three, and he opened up all the doors for
Speaker 4: us in the streaming world, and now we're super cool.
Speaker 2: To this day.
Speaker 4: But everybody said I was, I was, I was uncool,
Speaker 4: and now I was making a fool of myself until
Speaker 4: I was in the shower with him at his house
Speaker 4: with him, and everybody hit me out there and said, bro,
Speaker 4: you killed it. Okay, No, I'm not tripping. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to remind you that you said I was tweaking.
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 3: You're becoming a big player in the streaming game. You
Speaker 3: get it, you get it. I see what you're talking
Speaker 3: about right now, right, I see what you're talking about
Speaker 3: right now, because of what sales, what makes the money.
Speaker 3: You the crowd shall boys who kay and I y'all
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 5: It's a new it's a new wave of that's why.
Speaker 2: That's why I said. And people don't understand.
Speaker 3: People will look at ray J and say, hey, he's crashing, gal,
Speaker 3: he's this and that. But I look at him and
Speaker 3: I know the world today and I'm like.
Speaker 5: He's genius, thanks Gus.
Speaker 2: And some people like and they don't know the numbers.
Speaker 5: You know, the numbers. The numbers are crazy, and.
Speaker 2: Ye I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 5: But it's all about.
Speaker 4: People studying the algorithms too and knowing how to go, Okay,
Speaker 4: we're going to spend this. We're going to create this
Speaker 4: whole production world. This is going to generate this as
Speaker 4: long as we spend this amount of time. Let's study it,
Speaker 4: let's learn it, let's spend you know, eight months to
Speaker 4: a year, good or bad, until we find the rhythm
Speaker 4: and then we have it right.
Speaker 5: That's just us knowing business.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they could think I'm stupid as fuck, got it.
Speaker 4: I'm good, Like I'm on my fourth business, I'm selling.
Speaker 2: I will say this about your career. You've been.
Speaker 3: Very strategic and very calculated about how you do the things.
Speaker 3: And I know you had Waite, what was it. The
Speaker 3: other thing that you were head of the game was
Speaker 3: the scooters.
Speaker 5: At the scooters this is before bird.
Speaker 4: Ye, we're the first people to bring scooters electric transportation
Speaker 4: bikes into America, but.
Speaker 2: They were in China for years.
Speaker 3: People didn't know that because I was going to China
Speaker 3: back then they had the bikes, right, scooters I'm talking
Speaker 3: about in the nineties. Yeah, and then America got them
Speaker 3: into two thousands and he jumped on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we gave him to America. And then once America
Speaker 4: seen them, with the level of our marketing and promo,
Speaker 4: we had every a list start on it.
Speaker 5: Everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody that you desired to love had a SCOOTI bike.
Speaker 4: Then we turned around and did the Raycon earbuds, which
Speaker 4: was even a bigger business. I mean, this is nine
Speaker 4: digits nine figures for sure. Yeah, the numbers are real.
Speaker 4: Half of a billion, right with a board of uti
Speaker 4: cultural board of all these different creative people from the
Speaker 4: CEO to the SALFO to the CEO to the CMO
Speaker 4: and the list goes on.
Speaker 5: Right, this is a real business.
Speaker 4: And the way the way we do it is we've
Speaker 4: disciplined ourselves not to speak on numbers and you know
Speaker 4: how much money we got and the success of things,
Speaker 4: because again there's competitors and people that are your partners
Speaker 4: and people on the board. They like to move in
Speaker 4: more of a discreet way, right, So there's a lot
Speaker 4: of things people don't know that we've been a part of,
Speaker 4: or how much we made, or how much these businesses
Speaker 4: are worth, or how much I'll sold my shares for
Speaker 4: whatever it is. But we're way past the human mind.
Speaker 4: Like I'm a manifest sapien. I'm not a human. You
Speaker 4: say what, I'm a manifestapien?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 4: It's just it's a different kind of being that manifests.
Speaker 4: Now people think, some people that are more religious think
Speaker 4: that that's.
Speaker 5: A sin to manifest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it's just a.
Speaker 4: Different type of human or a different type of you
Speaker 4: know being, I would say, yeah, but I'm not the
Speaker 4: same as a human being, and our minds don't move
Speaker 4: the same they move differently. And the bad it's perfect,
Speaker 4: it has to be bad. How is it going to
Speaker 4: be good?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: How do you get to good if you don't get
Speaker 4: too bad? It's impossible. That's one plus one equals too.
Speaker 4: It's very simple. Shit's gonna be fucked up, and then
Speaker 4: shit's gonna be great. Shit's gonna get fucked up again.
Speaker 4: You can make one hundred million and then somebody you
Speaker 4: love get sick just fucked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, balance the scales.
Speaker 5: Just depending on what makes you happy.
Speaker 4: I felt like this was like like almost like diving
Speaker 4: into my mind a little bit different and just talking
Speaker 4: about twat. Yeah, just talking about what just then just
Speaker 4: talking about twat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know it's like like, you know, this is a
Speaker 4: good conversation, you know what I'm saying. We've talked about gay,
Speaker 4: We've talked about straight, We've talked about holes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, different.
Speaker 4: Talk, I feel like we did, but we diving into
Speaker 4: something different. And honestly, I don't even like to go here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and in conversations because the best thing that you one
Speaker 4: of the biggest powers you can ever have is to
Speaker 4: be underestimated.
Speaker 5: That's the secret code.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where you can be in the room and
Speaker 4: they're gonna tell you everything because they don't think.
Speaker 5: They don't they you ain't ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not on the level with them mentally, so
Speaker 4: they're gonna tell you everything.
Speaker 1: That's the bar that's real, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know who else I think is a genius too?
Speaker 1: Is Orlando Browning? No, no, no, he's been doing this
Speaker 1: ship for I know you fight to get it. Is
Speaker 1: been doing that ship for a long time. He's funny
Speaker 1: as hell.
Speaker 4: But I don't think Orlando is strategic, and I don't
Speaker 4: think I don't think it's I don't think it's on purpose.
Speaker 4: I think he's just he's he's lost and sometimes you
Speaker 4: need people to help you find your way. And then
Speaker 4: wherever I can be of help, whether it's the right
Speaker 4: hand or the left hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: That was gay as fuck?
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa. We might have to edit that one.
Speaker 2: We might have to.
Speaker 1: Edit that one.
Speaker 4: A minute in the boxing world where I was like right,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't okay. But I think that I think
Speaker 4: there's just it's just a difference, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I think it's just a difference with mostly everybody in
Speaker 4: that Why when anybody calls me and says that I'm
Speaker 4: not doing the right thing, I always like to test
Speaker 4: their intelligence and then test their business, and then then
Speaker 4: test the account. Because I was telling the homie yesterday
Speaker 4: as he was calling me, he was just really just
Speaker 4: dissing me and making me feel bad.
Speaker 5: He thought he was. I said, well, if it's all
Speaker 5: about money and you're in your rolls race and you're
Speaker 5: rolling around, then let's just go to account to account,
Speaker 5: and whoever has the most money in the account, somebody
Speaker 5: gives them.
Speaker 2: The double that up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want all your money or you have all
Speaker 4: my money, because if you're talking success in money, and
Speaker 4: that's what you're calling me for, let's get right to it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how much money you have.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: It's just it's corny to me. It's just corny, bro.
Speaker 4: It's like if I pull up in a dope car,
Speaker 4: I pull up in a dope car, I'm not gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 4: y'all niggas ain't shit. I'm in the fucking like. That's
Speaker 4: not fair. Because you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 4: you can be rich all your life and have all
Speaker 4: the flyers cards, and then one day you might not
Speaker 4: have no legs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're still rich.
Speaker 5: So how does that work?
Speaker 2: Damn? I'd rather have legs dead, homies.
Speaker 5: Shout out now. Now, Shout out to everybody that doesn't
Speaker 5: have legs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout them out.
Speaker 5: Everybody.
Speaker 3: Amount money in the world just gonna change, like simple things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Just I feel like, whether it's the person who's my assistant,
Speaker 4: or or the driver, or the person who's doing the lawn,
Speaker 4: the person who's working the front, we all play a
Speaker 4: part together and without everybody, nobody's anything, and so either
Speaker 4: we're all special or none of us are special. And
Speaker 4: that's just how I've always looked at it. Like y'all
Speaker 4: told me to be here at two, I'm here like
Speaker 4: one forty five because y'all told me.
Speaker 2: To do the first guests we had early, y'all.
Speaker 4: But y'all told me to be here at too. Respect y'all,
Speaker 4: and I respect y'all times, So I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Be here early.
Speaker 5: But that's how I move every day.
Speaker 4: Anything I do right, So when I say I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck doesn't mean I don't care. It means
Speaker 4: that I'm prepared, and I was on time, and we
Speaker 4: and we did a great interview.
Speaker 5: So after why should I give a fuck? It's great?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's that's my I don't
Speaker 5: give a fuck. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 2: I got one.
Speaker 3: What's the headline you're making the next year that nobody
Speaker 3: sees coming.
Speaker 4: I just think the expansion of the streaming world and
Speaker 4: the new production companies that we produce and we build
Speaker 4: around streaming and around the new the new TV. I
Speaker 4: think reality is kind of slowing down. The subscription platform
Speaker 4: is always going to be the most It's better than
Speaker 4: real estate. But I think the streaming world, when you
Speaker 4: understand the math of it, you understand the time, you
Speaker 4: understand how to profit and how to scale it. I
Speaker 4: think we'll dominate in the streaming world. Whatever the headlines
Speaker 4: will be, it'll have to be something in the streaming
Speaker 4: and still in the sub sub world, but just something
Speaker 4: that's a that's game changing, and it still allows us
Speaker 4: to be as dirty or as chaotic or as uncut
Speaker 4: as we want to be. And that's I think that's
Speaker 4: the power. Like we're not We're not going to change
Speaker 4: to be successful. Yeah, and that's why I want to
Speaker 4: make sure that I try to find a balance so
Speaker 4: I don't have to change this to be with my family.
Speaker 4: I love that, and so that's what I'm trying to
Speaker 4: figure out, because like, I'll do the right things as
Speaker 4: a man, as a husband, as a as a father,
Speaker 4: but the subject matter and who we are shouldn't have
Speaker 4: to change completely. That dilutes who we really are. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So one person is happy and one person isn't. It's
Speaker 4: still fucked, you know what I mean, Like, let me
Speaker 4: make you happy, but I'm not happy, right, So I'm
Speaker 4: doing I'm doing my part. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: How do we figure out how to all make it work?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. Money's not gonna do that.
Speaker 4: It's gonna feel good at first when you're like I
Speaker 4: got you, and then it's gonna all get fucked. It's
Speaker 4: gonna get even uglier, man, for real, you know how
Speaker 4: it go.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you, and I just want to say
Speaker 1: this one wish is my motherfucker jam to this day
Speaker 1: I listen, I'll listen.
Speaker 5: My mama gave me five hundred k, right, it was
Speaker 5: like four ninety.
Speaker 1: That's dope, and you made six point two million.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't six point.
Speaker 4: It's still making money. It's an asset, you know. That's
Speaker 4: what I'm talking about, never ending asset. I've been thinking
Speaker 4: about selling it. That song is just to grab some
Speaker 4: more liquidity so I could dump it into this new project.
Speaker 4: But I might, I might sell some of it. I
Speaker 4: don't have a super catalog. Yeah, but every hit song
Speaker 4: I ever put out, whether it was one song or
Speaker 4: two or three, like, we own all of all of it, So.
Speaker 1: Which is good. I love that song. That's my jay.
Speaker 1: I'm about to play it as soon as I wrap
Speaker 1: this up.
Speaker 4: I got a new version of it coming out, too, dope,
Speaker 4: new version of radiation.
Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2: Say to the camera, you want to.
Speaker 4: To the bitches that I'm in litigation and I'm in
Speaker 4: these crazy fucking legal shits with y'all need to gracefully
Speaker 4: to fuck bow out. It's not gonna You're not gonna win.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you. You keep pushing the narrative. That's completely fast.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get fucked again and again and again by
Speaker 4: trying to be something that you're not. Let it go,
Speaker 4: Let me live, let my family live, and let's move on.
Speaker 4: Y'all want to go back into mediation again, fine, cool,
Speaker 4: but stop playing games with niggas, bro, you won't win
Speaker 4: dead homies.
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck who your lawyer is.
Speaker 4: Your lawyers are always gonna quit, just like they've quit
Speaker 4: throughout this whole fucking process. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: who it is. Gracefully stand down and bow out. Let's
Speaker 4: get the truth out there, and then let's get the
Speaker 4: bread on the table and let's move on as human beings,
Speaker 4: because I don't even want my dick sucked again. I'm
Speaker 4: done with that.
Speaker 5: Period. Cheer that.
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