DLUTI 230 - The Sudbrink Calls
It's been a while since we've done some aliens, so we're meeting up with a guy named Gary this week and getting extraterrestrial...through the phone. Holth.
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1 SPEAKER_03: Don't look under the internet.
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we are rook for it.
Hello, everybody.
How are y'all doing today?
Hello.
Hot dog.
Do we have a fun one for you all today?
Uh, welcome to Don't Look Under the Internet, the internet's
best comedy horror podcast about podcasting on the internet.
I'm Michael.
SPEAKER_00: And I guess I'm Jason.
I'm not really sure.
SPEAKER_01: You sure friggin' are, buddy boy.
Um, it is just Jason and me today.
Uh, Doug is out, and so is Matt, which is why it's gonna be a
little on the struggle bus because I'm recording everything
and I don't know what I'm doing.
So and I lack the video and audio capabilities to do all of
that.
It's a good time.
Uh we'll piece it together, we'll figure it out.
Uh, got a couple fun ones for y'all today.
Uh, first and foremost, gonna start this off with a little
diluty house of keeping here.
Clap above your head.
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Got a couple people I want to shout out.
First and foremost, over at uh Patreon, I want to shout out
Kirby.
Thank you for the thank you for becoming a member of Kirby.
Uh like the name.
Uh, are you also big and squishy and pink?
Well, I guess Kirby's not big, he's like three inches tall.
I mean, it depends on what well, okay.
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Can you suck?
Good?
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How big can you suck?
How big suck?
How big sucky?
And then we have Diana Sable, which I'm pretty sure is just
your name.
I think didn't we say it a while ago if that if if someone uh
like to us and it's just their name, we give them a new one.
We're gonna give them a new one.
All right, what should we call Diana Sable then?
Sienna Table.
Sienna Table.
You heard it here from from the from the from the mouth of the
Lord himself.
Uh Diana Sable, you are now Sienna Table.
Um hope you like the color.
What is Sienna?
Is that like blue?
Like, well, it depends if it's burnt or not.
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Oh no, it's like Sienna, yeah.
It's like orange.
It's a whole filter.
SPEAKER_01: Well, Sienna uh Kirby, thank you very much.
I also want to give a shout out back over to Shi Be Whaling on
My Jiz, formerly uh uh Jiz Whalers.
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Jiz Whalers have a support group.
Well, now it's she be whaling on my jizz, so I assume Jiz Whalers
was in the support group.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: I get it.
Jiz Whalers group and now it's turned into a support group due
to the atrocities that have been committed.
Gotcha.
Yes.
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01: I also want to give a uh shout out to I want to
shout out to uh Gaiman watching you real quick.
Now, so here's the thing.
So with our new Patreon, shouts out to the new subs um on our
Patreon and our website, but with our new bonus content, we
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You've heard this time and time again, but basically we brought
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I do want to clarify with said criteria.
We will not find out the criteria until after we have
done research and chosen our cryptids, which is basically at
the beginning of the episode, yeah, which is gonna be a lot
more fun than if we knew ahead of time.
SPEAKER_01: It's basically it's a rug pull.
But um yeah, I just want to give a shout out to Gaiman watching
you because I feel like we did you dirty, buddy, and I'm very
sorry for that.
Hell yeah.
Uh that concludes house keep it a keepin'.
Unclap above your own head, Jason.
What?
We all have a technology rectangle in our pocket.
A technitangle, if you will.
A tectangle.
A tectangle.
We all have a technology rectangle in our pocket.
And we use it for texting, TikToks, surfing the web.
SPEAKER_00: Let me change my uh tab.
SPEAKER_01: Your technology rectangle.
SPEAKER_00: No, I've I have the wrong tab open.
We're doing this one first, I'm assuming.
There you go.
SPEAKER_01: Yes, you are we use it for all sorts of things, but
you know what we don't really use it for anymore.
What don't we use it for?
Being a phone.
SPEAKER_00: You don't really get phones.
Yeah, you know what?
That's actually the like the last thing that I use my phone
for.
Exactly.
We don't and only in dire cases, because fuck that.
SPEAKER_01: No one uses their phone as a phone anymore, except
one person.
His name's Gary.
We're gonna talk about Gary.
Today we are talking about today uh the Sudabrink phone calls.
Now what are the Sudabrink phone calls you've been asking
yourself?
It's it's not Sudabrink.
SPEAKER_00: Oh Sudbrink, sorry, Sudbrink.
Sudbrink, Sudbrink?
Sudbrink Sudbrink, Sudbrink?
I don't know.
Well, I don't know the like where his family hails from.
So I I don't know what the pronunciation should be.
SPEAKER_01: Uh sud or sudbrink, it's one of the two.
But you're probably asking yourself, why are we talking
about this sudbrink?
What are we talking about these phone calls for?
What is sudbrink phone calls?
Uh Jason, do you want to elaborate a smidge since you go
first?
SPEAKER_00: I guess I can.
Um, and only because I go first, otherwise I wouldn't be doing
this.
Um when we say when we talk about the the uh Sudbrink or the
Gary Sudbrink phone calls, um what we're doing is we're
referencing and a series of events that took place over the
course of, I think, from what I looked at, it's just over a
year.
If you look at all of the like the information about it.
Um so this is back in 1993, and it's all about a 27-year-old
named Gary Sudbrink, who is originally from Long Island, New
York.
Um, he also, if you if you care, was a captain in the Air Force.
Um, he was assigned to a medical pharmacy in San Antonio, Texas.
Uh Gary decided to come home and visit his family without telling
anyone after one of his uh his stations.
So he had a break.
Basically, he decided to surprise his family and friends
back in New York, didn't tell anyone.
Um, and I will say simply because no one would ever pay
attention to that detail otherwise, pay attention to that
detail.
Um so he uh he makes his calls and he heads on over to uh the
airport.
Now, it's it's important to note what airport he left from.
I think it was JFK, right?
I think that's what he said.
It was JFK Airport.
Okay.
So he leaves from JFK Airport, and while he's um while he's
there, something weird does happen.
I'll go over that in just a second.
The rest of this does it does uh pertain to further in the story,
and so what we're gonna be talking about is this man, Gary,
who again is from New York, and he uh flies to uh to Texas to
see his family, and in the in the interim, a bunch of weird
shit happens to make everyone involved very confused about all
of the things, I guess.
And this story kind of goes over a series of sequential phone
calls that are made to not only Gary, but Gary's family as well.
Um and all of them will say the same thing about all of it.
And actually, there's recordings for all of it.
Yeah, these phone calls are very strange.
However, this all starts way the fuck back in JFK Airport when uh
Gary, again, Monday, February 8th, decides to uh I'm sorry,
not February 8th.
Uh I think it was February 6th.
I don't think the date either is that much.
I don't think it really does.
He goes to the airport, and while he's there, um he uh is he
he meets this guy holding a clipboard, nondescript, just uh
there was nothing super special about him except for he was
holding a clipboard.
He starts asking him questions.
Now, the clipboard does make you special, and all of my jobs have
told me that because every time I've walked around holding a
clipboard at work, I've never gotten bothered.
That's the that's the key.
Just a heads up, everyone.
You have a clipboard, you can do whatever you want at work.
Um so guy holding a clipboard comes up and he starts asking a
bunch of questions, like, you know, what's your name?
Is this how it's pronounced?
Is this how it's spelled?
Where are you from?
Who are you?
And where do you get off?
Where do you get off?
That is one of the questions, actually.
Like, where do you get off?
Um no, one of the he thinks that he's being sold something, so he
kind of just brushes the guy off, continues about his journey
through the to the airport terminal, gets there, checks in,
boards the plane.
Once he's on the plane, he sits, you know, sits down, situates a
bit, and wouldn't you fucking know it?
The same guy.
Actually, I'm sorry.
One of the accounts does say it's the same guy.
There are several accounts saying that it's a different
individual.
However, both are holding clipboards.
This man comes up, sits down next to him, and start asking
him the exact same types of questions.
Could be the same guy, could be a different guy.
There are conflicting accounts on this.
Yeah, it's it there's yeah, there's a bunch of different uh
conflicting accounts on that, so that's we can't really know that
part of it.
Um, eventually got pissed and told the guy to fuck off.
Uh, called a flight attendant over who said, You need to go
back to your seat because this is not your seat.
And the guy goes, Okay.
Apparently, literally gets up, walks to the row behind Gary.
So as I was saying, right back down.
Start your fucking name.
So anyway, what was your name again?
I've just been talking uh Larry?
Yeah, he same same thing, same song and dance, and apparently
this happens throughout the duration of the flight
intermittently, albeit it happens with less and less
frequency throughout, which apparently was fine for Gary
because it could have been a screaming baby.
So, like could have been.
I don't know, which is which is worse.
Yeah.
Um, so that's that's Gary's uh that's the kind of the overview
of what and who Gary is and what this whole thing is thing is
about.
Um, and I will say the last thing I'll say to kind of pique
everyone's interest is he the calls that he is about to
receive, which Mike is about to go over just a little bit.
Um I don't know if those calls originated from this planet.
SPEAKER_01: Mike, what do you got?
Yeah, uh one thing I I want to note real quick because it ties
into a bit of my thing.
Uh, before Gary even goes to the airport, uh he does bring
mention, and and he brings this up to his dad later, which I'll
talk about, but uh he does mention a sighting that he had
um above his house.
SPEAKER_00: I okay, I couldn't find anything on this man.
No?
Oh, okay.
I thought I I thought this, what you were saying, referred to uh
something that I'm gonna bring up later that happens a year
before his flight.
Are you talking the helicopter?
SPEAKER_01: No, oh, that's what I'm talking about.
So apparently, uh a couple days before he decided to go on his
flight, uh, Gary noticed and heard a black helicopter flying
above his house.
Uh relatively low, too, like low enough where he's like, that's
suspicious.
And he went out to see what was going on, and it just hovered
there.
It didn't really do anything, it just hovered right above his
house and then just took off.
And he was like, That's fucking weird.
Uh, and that is that's a relatively good segue into what
I'm talking about.
Because like Jason said, he flew to Texas.
Right when he gets off, he goes to visit his family.
He goes to his uh mom.
SPEAKER_00: Weird time to do that, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01: So while he is with his uh his parents, he has this
conversation with his dad about the sighting of the helicopter
he had.
Uh his dad mentions to him a couple things.
Uh, he mentions, oh, apparently his dad, their Gary's whole
family is super into like uh the UFOs, like paranormal things
like that.
Uh his dad told Gary about this trip that his dad and his uncle
took to West Virginia where they saw a UFO.
Uh I'll get on that a little bit more later, but uh in this
conversation, his dad also mentions to him that he also saw
a helicopter hovering over his house just like Gary did.
It's at this time Gary's like, that's fucking weird.
Two helicopters?
Two?
That's no, you're not seeing double.
There's four crustees.
So Gary uh there are four lights.
Yeah.
Gary uh decides, you know, that's crap, that's weird, but
uh, you know, we'll talk about this later.
I gotta call my friend Mike because he's trying to s he'
he's in town.
He wants to get up with it and meet up with his buddies.
So he calls his friend Mike, and as he does, he's like, Hey Mike,
what's going on?
And Mike says, Oh, Gary, you sound much better than than
earlier.
And Gary's like, wait, what?
What do you mean much better than earlier?
And Mike explains that 20 minutes ago, he got a call from
Gary.
And Gary's like, I haven't called you.
This is I just landed, homie.
I'm I'm not getting in touch with you.
And uh Mike says, No, it sounded just like you, but it was just a
little nasally, kind of like you had a cold.
But you told me he's he Mike went on to explain that whoever
was talked to him on the phone explained everything to him
about Gary.
How uh he went on his flight, how he was talked to by this
person.
The only thing that this person got wrong was some of the flight
information.
They I think they said he like leaves out of like LaGuardia or
something instead of JFK.
Yes, so they got they got the um they got the airport information
wrong.
But as Gary is talking to his friend Mike, the phone rings,
and keep in mind this is all happening at his parents' house,
you know.
So no one really should have this number that's trying to
reach out to Gary.
Um no, they they shouldn't.
Yeah, and and the other weird thing is this is taking place at
roughly around 10:30 at night.
That's when Gary's reaching out to his buddy here.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's an important time.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so as he's calling his friend, Gary gets
another phone call on the other line and he decides no one
should be calling at this time.
That's very weird.
It must be important.
Let me answer it.
So he answers the phone.
And pretty quickly after answering, he realizes I need to
record this shit.
And so he pick he turns on his uh his voicemail recorder so he
can record the audio track.
SPEAKER_00: And this is this is okay.
Again, this is 1996 or something, right?
Yeah, like voicemail recorders were still a thing.
You put a little analog tape in the deck and you closed it, you
rewind it, and you set it, and you make your little recording,
and then you had like a month and a half of voicemail, and
then you had to re-record it.
God, the 90s was an interesting time.
SPEAKER_01: It was uh the best time, it was perfect.
Um, so uh I'm gonna play a small clip of the audio from those
phone calls.
Uh getting a little getting a little meta here.
Those of you listening on the Patreon, go ahead and go to my
screen share now.
Those of you listening to this recording next week or whenever
it comes out, keep doing what you're doing because nothing's
gonna change on your end.
At least, God, I hope so.
SPEAKER_00: Well, I hope it does.
Yeah, right.
Otherwise, this is gonna be like 30 seconds of silence.
Just like, wasn't that interesting?
SPEAKER_01: I can't believe you said that.
Um, but here is some of the audio from the phone call.
SPEAKER_04: I'll tell you who it is.
Yeah.
Do you want to speak to him?
Yeah, who's this?
Steven, are you playing games with me or what?
SPEAKER_00: Huh?
Mike, you picked the exact time that I decided to.
SPEAKER_04: Stephen, you're playing games, we're gonna kick
your ass.
SPEAKER_03: Huh?
Yeah, this is you, Steve, you idiot.
Idiot.
You pissed me off.
SPEAKER_04: Jerk.
Jerk trying to get you on.
By the way, Steve Steve is a joke.
Review.
One new call out of area.
Is Steven out of the area?
SPEAKER_01: And it just kind of goes on like that for a little
bit.
You're being impersonated by the other voice.
Yeah, but as you can see.
How long are you gonna be in Texas?
As you can see, and here, um, a little creepy.
Um, incredibly.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the voice.
Can you imagine getting that phone call at 10:30 at night?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Um 4 p.m., whatever.
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
SPEAKER_01: But notice the perfect time for this phone
call.
You'll notice some weird oddities in the phone call, too.
Like it asks, how long are you going to be back from Texas?
Like it's not, yeah, it doesn't make much sense.
It it stutters a little bit, but it repeats.
SPEAKER_00: So it's almost like whoever's making this message or
recording or call or whatever this is, doesn't have a full
grasp on how language on earth works.
Maybe.
Maybe.
But I'm just that's just that's just a weird observation on my
end.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it.
But Gary uh goes on to obviously, like you heard, he
he's Steven is this you, Steven is this you.
Steven is his brother, so he just assumes Steven was prank
calling him.
SPEAKER_00: But Stephen eventually he does go, Steven,
this is you, you jackass.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but Steven isn't doesn't know that Gary is
home, so there it couldn't be Steven.
Um it's after this as well that is his dad is like, that's some
weird shit.
Um we hear from his dad on other recordings as well.
Um maybe I can find the audio for some of those other
recordings as well.
But um, yeah, that that happens the first.
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, dude, you don't.
You did the clip you played was perfect to exemplify all of the
phone calls.
Right.
SPEAKER_01: Um I might find one more just because uh it does say
some other stuff that I kind of want to include.
SPEAKER_00: But what we'll get there are yes, yeah, there are
some later that uh some new information gets divulged, and
yeah, you're right.
At the very beginning, it seems like somebody is just trying to
like interrogate this phone number.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like they have no idea who they just called.
So but later on it it gets worse.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that that happens, and then Gary hangs up.
And then what happens after that, Jason?
SPEAKER_00: I so I sent Mike a uh a clip of basically the same
audio.
Um, you guys aren't gonna believe this, but Gary at his
not his house, at his parents' house in Texas, gets several
more calls throughout the night.
And also throughout the next day, um he gets what three three
more phone calls throughout this the first night that he gets
these calls.
SPEAKER_01: He gets three phone calls throughout this night, all
in the case all in the course of like an hour.
Right.
SPEAKER_00: Um, and again, so there's a shit.
There is a one hour and 40 or sorry, it's like uh it's almost
two hours long.
It's an interview with somebody named Sue Seawek, and she
actually has the physical copy of all of these uh these audio
recordings of his phone calls because she actually met with
Gary and talked with him.
Apparently, both of them love going to UFO conventions, don't
we?
So they oh I know, man.
Um, so Sue Seawek met with Gary uh Sudbrink and exchanged
stories, and apparently there were several more calls
throughout the night.
Um, where not only did they inquire about Gary's identity,
they also told Gary that huh, weird.
You're being impersonated, bud.
Not good there, Bud.
It's not good there, Bud.
Um, so we've heard the how long are you back from Texas?
You've heard is this Gary Sudbrink?
Um, one of the creepier moments on one of the calls, though, is
when they like pure surprise in a very deep modulated voice go,
Who is this?
That's kind of where I was like, Oh, this isn't this might not
just be like a somebody.
Fucking like this might not be his brother fucking with him via
recorded message that was just slowed way the fuck down.
Um this might be something different.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Here, I have another audio clip if you want to hear
real quick.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fuck it, go for it.
SPEAKER_04: Please repeat.
SPEAKER_01: Just keep an eye on the skies.
Okay.
Okay.
Near Orion.
SPEAKER_04: Can I just you can hear his dad in the background?
SPEAKER_00: Yes, so that's exactly what I want to talk
about is his apparently Gary uh Sudbrings both dad and uncle are
both incredibly obsessed with ufology and the study of
unidentified flying objects, aliens, random transmissions,
the the works.
They they love it, love the idea of it, and they are like, yes, I
believe they are one step past Fox Mulder.
SPEAKER_01: Um I want to play one more clip because it shows
just how into this the dad gets.
This is the last bit I'll play.
Alright, ready?
SPEAKER_04: I mean, uh how do I know it's not Steven?
It's not Steven.
Hello.
This is the dad.
I had a uh UFO experience in West Virginia, which you
probably know.
And I know that you're into uh an intergalactic person.
I love that term.
Can you speak a little louder?
SPEAKER_00: No.
SPEAKER_04: Sorry?
Can you speak a little louder?
Louder.
Let me speak from that.
I guess I don't know.
Alright, I'll hang up so you can talk to me.
He wants to talk to you.
SPEAKER_01: He wants to talk to you, he says.
SPEAKER_00: And the most important ones, and here I'll
tell you, the ones to pay attention to, and again, this is
this is all real.
Like this is these are phone calls that happen, these are
real individuals.
This is not like a trail of breadcrumbs leading into a
random fictional part of the internet, you know what I mean?
These are like people talking with each other, these are
actual recorded phone calls.
Um, but the big the big uh sentences that we hear are
obviously, is this or confirming that this is Gary Sudbrink.
However, keep an eye on the skies near Orion, the full moon.
Um show double from you.
There was uh you you're being impersonated by the other, like,
or the double.
I'm sorry, they say the double.
Gary, even later, going go ahead.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, uh, Gary later on in other ones, speaking of
the full moon and everything, he does mention he's like, Oh, the
full moon is two days away.
Is that when you want me outside?
Like, he he tries to piece it all together.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, no.
Oh, there's and the the worst part is, man, it's like nobody
here that has heard us talk about all of this knows like
part of the backstory to any of this, which is wild to me.
Um, one of the other big things that they hear over this phone
line is beware government interference, yeah, government
interference, visitations will be disrupted by them, as well as
things like not from earth, visit earth, visit like
basically all the signs point to this recording is not from
planet earth because not okay for several reasons.
The grammar doesn't line up, the sentence structure does not line
up almost ever, the words do, but that's it, and we can
basically take away an inference from the understanding of basic
language, but even like the ancient, ancient, ancient
peoples of this world had understanding of basic language,
like so.
I don't I don't understand why it's so just abrupt and like
it's almost like they're not using articles or prepositions
or anything, it's just nouns, verbs, adjectives.
SPEAKER_01: It's someone that is like trying it, it's when you
try to like speak phonetically, like when you don't know
language, it's kind of like that.
SPEAKER_00: Almost, you know what I mean?
Yeah, like they knew like 12 English words, and they tried to
construct a message around that, which is strange.
Yeah, um, that first with the cadence and everything like
that, it it made it very fucking weird.
SPEAKER_01: The the downside is this is really all we have of
the phone calls.
There's just like the four total, essentially, that Gary
gets.
He's never really contacted again.
Um he does mention, I don't know if you saw his I'm I'm good
here.
SPEAKER_00: I will say I have one thing to add when you're
done with this next bullet point.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, just his uh poltergeist activity.
I don't know if you've if you if you read it on that information
at all, but I guess after these um these phone calls, he started
experiencing what he calls like poltergeist activity where
things would move around the house, he would hear voices, um,
and he thinks that it has something to do.
Yeah, he thinks it has something to do with these phone calls.
Um there is a point, I believe, where he was at his his parents'
house and he kept seeing like figures, and then he would go
home.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shadow figures.
Um he was super paranoid, yeah.
And his and his and the worst part is his parents, like they
both are super into this stuff, so it's not like they were
sitting there going, like, oh no, your mind is all sorts of
worked up.
Oh no, they're calm down a bit.
No, they're like, stay angry, stay rage, think what you're
thinking, you're doing great.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, aliens want you, you're special.
Yeah, exactly.
But it is it is interesting, like I guess I'll let you you
said you had one more thing you want to bring up, but uh, by all
means go for it right now.
I was gonna I was gonna do this after the the West Virginia
thing.
Oh, okay, cool.
Um, but it it's just interesting because again, like why Gary?
He mentions early on that's Gary, for fuck's sake.
He mentions early on that the reason he went to to visit his
parents is because first off, I believe he worked for the
military he works for the military or did when this was
happening.
I don't know.
He was Air Force, Air Force, yes, thank you.
And his like days off just magically lined up where you
have like a three-day weekend.
I know.
And so he's that never happened.
Yeah, so he's just like, I'll just fucking go.
He's supposed to like tell people when he's leaving, but
he's like, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna do it.
And he believes that is what like started all this.
Like maybe he's like know some intel, but like I don't know if
that has anything to do with it or if it's just coincidence or
not, but uh I I something I don't know.
I I will get into what we think or the theories in a minute, but
I'll I'll talk about my last bit, which is I mentioned it
before where his father mentioned to him that he had an
experience in West Virginia.
Uh his father doesn't really go into huge, huge details here,
but essentially what he talks about is um his dad and his
uncle visited the Green Bank Telescope, which collapsed in
1988, and this is in West Virginia.
Apparently, there's a whole bunch of rumors that claim that
this telescope was destroyed by UFOs.
Uh, I guess it was like monitoring them, and the UFOs
retaliated against it.
But people claim to see UFOs all around this area, and his dad
and uncle both claim to have witnessed a UFO hovering around
the telescope when they went to visit it.
This typically wouldn't be, you know, too out of the ordinary.
I mean UFO visit, yeah, and sightings, yeah, that is out of
the ordinary.
But what really makes it interesting is that though the
telescope collapsed, it has relatively recently, not like
not like a recent, recent, but within the past like I want to
say 30 years, it was kind of rebuilt to be used as a device
to send out and receive uh radio wave frequencies from space.
So is it a coincidence that uh this thing was attacked by UFOs
when it may have been used for communication purposes, relay
purposes with space?
Wowiezae.
Something like that.
Wowie zaui.
Um yeah, so uh Gary's dad believes that the UFO that they
witnessed in West Virginia is connected to this.
I think that's a bit of a stretch.
I think I mean you can have multiple UFO uh encounters in
your life.
I don't think the two are really connected, if you ask me.
Well, there's they're two different things.
One's a UFO, another's a phone call.
And a helicopter.
Like this has to do more with helicopters than it does UFO.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: But I dig.
Um, I will say, so I'm gonna go ahead, I'm gonna I'm gonna
caboose us up, and I'm gonna mention the one thing that I did
find that made this super interesting to me.
Ooh, okay, because otherwise it sounds just kind of like a a
made-up story.
Um, so you heard on the phone call that and also Mike and I
mentioned uh Steven, which is Gary's older brother, and he
kept saying on the phone calls, like, Steven, this is fucking
you, like I know it's you, fuck off, get out of here.
He thinks Steven's just fucking with him.
Well, a year before this event happens, um, there was a family
gathering at Gary's sorry, the the Sudbrink family home, the
Sud Brink family reunion.
Right.
Um, and while this was happening, Gary's older brother
Steven swears up and down that not only did he see Gary driving
to this family reunion reunion.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
Saw his car, saw like it just was identical, the mannerisms,
the everything.
Apparently, the Gary he saw made a bunch of faces at him and then
floored it to get away from him.
Steven found out later that Gary, his brother, arrived to
the reunion via plane.
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
SPEAKER_00: He did not drive.
Interesting.
So we're looking at a possible dopper doppelganger, and
whatever that doppelganger might be, but that's like the whole
the whole whole whole whole thing about this is all about
doppelgangers because you hear it in the voice recordings of
the other voice is in is impersonating you.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I didn't even know.
You hear all of that through it.
How is it?
Right?
I did not put that together, dude.
Gary's brother Steven saw Gary, who apparently was not Gary,
driving to their family reunion when Gary flew, because you
know, New York, Texas, obviously.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: This started a year before this time, and nobody
knew anything about it because they didn't put it together
until later.
So apparently, a doppelganger technology of some sort is on
the loose and it's impersonating Gary's all over the world.
They have a Gary box just making Gary's.
It's just a big old Gary box.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Uh you've heard of Gary's mod now by Gary's box.
I guess what uh what do you think is going on here?
Do you think this is a real thing?
Do you think it's fake?
Dude, do you want my honest opinion?
Yeah.
I do think it's probably fake.
Um, but I think it's very compelling.
The f first and foremost, we do have these physical like 90s
recordings and everything, and it's very interesting.
But uh the the video that I got the audio from, uh first and
foremost, I want to give a quick shout out to uh the video that I
pulled this from.
It is the Tape Library.
Um makes pretty good content there and uh very very
informative stuff.
So shout out Tape Library, but they had the same theory that I
did, where it was just someone using a voice recorder or like
manipulator, and this was roughly around the time that the
Home Alone movies came out, and he makes the idea that they're
using the talk boy to do the voice impressions, so much so
where if you actually speed up the voice a little bit, it just
sounds like a guy.
Dude, it just sounds like a dude.
Um so they they think that they're just using a talk boy uh
voice recorder type of situation, but I I don't know
because the coincidence of two helicopters I guess my whole
thing is why Gary?
Because it doesn't like it wouldn't make sense if like this
was happening to someone who's like, oh, I worked in the Air
Force and I worked on experimental uh uh alien
technology or something, and now I'm being contacted by the
aliens.
But Gary never lets off that like he was doing anything weird
in the Air Force, or like there's any reason for the
aliens to want him.
I think he's probably bored, honestly.
Yeah, right.
Um, but that that's my whole thing is there's not really a
reason for the aliens to specifically want Gary to this
extent.
SPEAKER_00: Plus, it's it's backed up by several people at
the same location, right?
Yeah.
So like what's what's there to debate?
Real aliens.
Well, I do like the Mystique.
The Mystique is great, like the this story is awesome.
However, I happen to frequent Reddit, and Reddit is full of
people who have no fucking lives.
Oh, so they just decode things and identify things for a
goddamn living without getting paid.
Um so apparently this has been identified that so the calls
being made to Gary have been identified as an actual analog
tape recorder that has been slowed down slightly, and on top
of that, apparently it's been it's two separate tape
recordings recorded over each other to make this voice.
Okay, and if you were to pull those apart, you hear two
distinct voices, and one of them sounds suspiciously like Gary.
And Gary has a brother named Steven.
So I don't know, man.
The math ain't mathing on aliens here.
The math doesn't math.
I know we're gonna do real or fake here, but man, like it's
intriguing, but Reddit did their thing.
I think I found this actually on uh RBI.
Nice.
Um so they just went down their rabbit hole, they fucking put
all the audio, they fact check all the details.
Thank god, because I didn't want to do that.
Um yeah, and yeah, one of the one of the biggest consensus
that I found is this is the the phone calls are simply two
analog tapes recorded with two different voices played at a
slower speed together.
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
I I get let's rip the band-aid off.
One, two, three, real fake.
Ready?
One, two, three, fake.
Real! Um real bullshit.
Real bullshit.
Yeah, it's just it doesn't make any sense.
It's really fun.
I like the concept, but it's just exactly again.
It would make sense if Gary was like, oh, I worked on secret
military stuff.
That's why they want me.
But no, I know you never nothing brings up why Gary would be
targeted.
SPEAKER_00: Here's my this is what I think happened.
Gary was jealous of all his Air Force buddies that got promoted
to like super special secret projects or something.
I want to be an alien man.
I could do it too, and so he got called by aliens instead.
Yeah, when in doubt, if you can't get promoted, just go to
aliens.
Well, the worst part about all this is is that like the whole
planet at this point knows that extraterrestrials exist and they
have visited Earth.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like, we all know they exist, yep, which makes this story from
1996, to me anyway, way cringier.
Because I feel like the people that made this never thought the
US government would ever prove the existence of
extraterrestrials, and they're just leaving me voicemails.
SPEAKER_01: I mean you know what now that I think about it too,
you're the what you're saying where it's like two recordings
like over each other.
That makes that makes a little bit of sense too, because
there's that one where it asks uh what is it's like are you
Gary Sudbrink?
And it yes, it goes like it's like or are you, and it kind of
stumbles a little bit.
I think that's probably like one tape recorder is off just a
little bit, so it's a little faster than the other one, and
so it caught it.
You know what I mean?
It's that's why it's like or are you it like the one is just just
a hair faster?
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I agree.
Like it's it's not hard to make that voice, it's not hard to
make anonymous phone calls.
It's not like all of these things that you'd have to do to
make this not real are so fucking easy, it's not even
funny.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if I wonder if Gary tried doing this to
attempt to get a little bit of cash out of it.
Because this, I mean, I don't know when it came out, but was
this around what X Files did X Files?
Oh, dude, yes, X-Files was in this prime right now.
Yeah, are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_01: Let me look that up.
I have no idea.
Never seen it, but I I wouldn't be surprised if this happened
around that same time.
SPEAKER_00: He was trying to catch it.
Well, the movie came out in 1998, so I have to assume by
9098 it was popular, which means at least two years of seasoning.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he did this shit to
try to cash in on that popularity and maybe make some
money.
Maybe get on the 93.
Oh get on an Oprah Winfrey show with his alien tapes or
something, you know?
Yeah.
Harpo channel.
SPEAKER_00: That's what I think.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm Harpo channel, Jesus.
I'm with you.
That's probably exactly what happened.
We control the elite's weather.
SPEAKER_00: Well, everybody, the Harpo machine.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I the Harpo machine.
You get a storm, you get a storm, you get a storm.
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Um and then if you get any phone calls from a weird voice.
Have sex with the phone.
Have sex with the phone.
Do the Freddie Krueger thing where he the the tongue right
now.
Johnny Depp right in the alien tone.
Uh yeah.
Jason, what do you gotta say to the people?
SPEAKER_00: Dude, as fucking always, stay paranoid.
There are so many people with so much time on their hands, so
much time on their hands that could freak you out, and if they
do, you should probably retaliate.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Violently, violently, aggressively, and
exponentially.
SPEAKER_01: Yes, do all that just like Gary would want you to
do.
Just like Gary.
Well, bye, everybody.
Bye, we'll see you later.