Tony Katz Today Full Show - 05/29/26 (Mike Koolidge Guest Hosts)
Hour 1 Segment 1
While Tony is away, Mike Koolidge fills in! Mike starts the first hour of the show talking about the Los Angeles mayoral race between Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt.
Hour 1 Segment 2
Mike talks about an MS NOW reporter trying to breakdown Spencer Pratt.
Hour 1 Segment 3
Mike continues to talk about an MS NOW reporter trying to breakdown Spencer Pratt.
Hour 1 Segment 4
Mike wraps up the first hour of the show talking more about an MS NOW reporter trying to breakdown Spencer Pratt.
Hour 2 Segment 1
While Tony is away, Mike Koolidge fills in! Mike starts the second hour of the show talking about the restriction of free speech in some European countries and how Christians cannot write about the Bible.
Hour 2 Segment 2
Mike is joined with Joy Pullman of The Federalist to talk about the use of Christian free speech in Finland.
Hour 2 Segment 3
Mike talks about Jill Biden saying she thought former President Joe Biden was having a stroke during his 2024 presidential debate.
Hour 2 Segment 4
Mike wraps up the second hour of the show talking about data centers. Mike also talks about how President Donald Trump was able to defeat Kamala Harris in 2024.
Hour 3 Segment 1
While Tony is away, Mike Koolidge fills in! Mike starts the final hour of the show talking about the pros and cons of data centers.
Hour 3 Segment 2
Mike talks with the listeners to hear about the pros and cons of data centers.
Hour 3 Segment 3
Mike talks about population growth in rural areas versus cities.
Hour 3 Segment 4
Mike wraps up another edition of the show talking about if Vice President J.D. Vance or if Secretary of State Marco Rubio will run for presidency in 2028.
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Speaker 1: Why from Vaul Hartbeer and the Crossroads of America. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, welcome to Tony Katz Today. I am
Speaker 2: not Tony Katz. I am Mike Coolidge spelled with the
Speaker 2: k k W L I, d G E cats are
Speaker 2: spelled k at z, and I want to thank you.
Speaker 2: Yes you listening right now? Well?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, I know I'm not Tony. You almost said
Speaker 2: I'll skip today show, but no, you stuck around. You
Speaker 2: are not leaving.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: I have my own favorite radio shows, and sometimes when
Speaker 2: they have, you know, a fill in guest host, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'll skip it, not a not a
Speaker 2: you know, not my guy or not my gal uh
Speaker 2: and do other things. But occasionally I'll listen. I'm like, huh,
Speaker 2: this person ain't half bad. And that's the key, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're filling in for someone, you never want to
Speaker 2: outshine the main host. So as these next three hours
Speaker 2: will not be as great as Tony Katz's radio broadcasts are,
Speaker 2: they'll be just the smidgeonist, less entertaining and informative. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's that's what we strive for. What we fill in seriously,
Speaker 2: I'm very pleased that you have tuned in today, this
Speaker 2: end of the week, last day of May, last work
Speaker 2: day of May. I guess right. June is next week,
Speaker 2: and we've got to pack three hours of radio information
Speaker 2: and entertainment for you and the person sitting next to
Speaker 2: you in yourself driving car. We're going to do something
Speaker 2: on the show today which we haven't done in many years.
Speaker 2: In the previous times, we've filled in for Tony and
Speaker 2: that has open up the phone lines. Yes, write down
Speaker 2: this number three one seven sixty four three eighty seven
Speaker 2: hundred three one seven six four three eighty seven hundred.
Speaker 2: We're going to open the lines of later. Not right now,
Speaker 2: but you know, in case you're listening, you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to call it. I want to talk to
Speaker 2: this character live on the radio, specifically about later on.
Speaker 2: We're going to bring it up. It's a topic that
Speaker 2: every political event I've been to in the last I
Speaker 2: don't know, six months, I'm very involved politically in the
Speaker 2: state of Illinois, which is right west of Indiana. If
Speaker 2: you didn't know that, I every time I speak with someone,
Speaker 2: what do you think the hottest topic is?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Who's going to run for president in twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 2: Is it it ran is it the Democrats? Is it
Speaker 2: Spencer Pratt?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know what the hottest topic is. Honestly, it's not
Speaker 2: that interesting. You might think, oh, this isn't this is boring?
Speaker 2: Oh no, everyone has an opinion on it. Drum roll.
Speaker 2: Data centers. Yeah, data centers. That to me is every
Speaker 2: time somebody talks at a political event, if it's a
Speaker 2: candidate for office, someone will raise their hand and say,
Speaker 2: what's your opinion about data centers? Well, we are going
Speaker 2: to ask for your opinion about data centers later on
Speaker 2: on Tony Katz today again three point two six four
Speaker 2: three eighty seven hundred will give you some data about
Speaker 2: data centers and we'll kind of give you our opinion
Speaker 2: about that. We live in rural Illinois, probably very similar
Speaker 2: to rural Indiana and where many of you are listening
Speaker 2: to this show right now. We have in red Illinois.
Speaker 2: Are our county in Illinois is as red as any
Speaker 2: other county in the state. Really. In fact, heck, one
Speaker 2: hundred of the one hundred and two counties in Illinois
Speaker 2: will they used to be all red except for two
Speaker 2: of them that would be Lake and cook the second
Speaker 2: biggest county in the country after Los Angeles County. And
Speaker 2: but now you know the Coyler counties outside of Chicago
Speaker 2: are a little bluer than they used to be. Of course,
Speaker 2: you could technically count Indiana as part of Chicago Land
Speaker 2: and Indiana ins those of you who listening to the
Speaker 2: show are now in Indiana might be getting a Chicago
Speaker 2: football team in the next couple of years. It is
Speaker 2: a hot topic in my state, for sure, and that's
Speaker 2: actually an interesting one about how that breaks down politically too.
Speaker 2: But point being, this topic is hot. This not in
Speaker 2: my backyard. This Why are we eating up farmland? This
Speaker 2: we can't lose to China. There's a lot of different
Speaker 2: aspects to it, so we will break that down later on.
Speaker 2: But because you listening to this right now are such
Speaker 2: a political junkie, we're going to get into the second
Speaker 2: hottest topic right now, which not a single one of
Speaker 2: you listening to this has any stake in, and that
Speaker 2: is the mayor of Los Angeles, Yes, Spencer Pratt and
Speaker 2: Ramen something or other I think that's her last name.
Speaker 2: And then of course Karen Bass running for mayor of
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. I've never in my life seen a mayor's
Speaker 2: race in an individual city take up this much oxygen
Speaker 2: in political talk. I mean, I went to college in
Speaker 2: the nineties, I would say the biggest and the biggest
Speaker 2: mayor's race at that time, and it really did change
Speaker 2: the trajectory of the biggest city in the country that
Speaker 2: would be New York City, was when Rudy Giuliani won
Speaker 2: the mayorship of New York City I believe it was
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three and just completely changed New York
Speaker 2: in a really positive way. A cracked down on crime,
Speaker 2: cleaned up Times Square. I mean, it was booming, the
Speaker 2: nineties version of New York City, and then of course
Speaker 2: a bunch of Democrats came after him and ruined it.
Speaker 2: They really really did. It's not as bad as Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: so I've heard. Los Angeles is an absolute blank hole
Speaker 2: right now, and that has everything to do with the
Speaker 2: Democrat leadership there. But why this has become such a
Speaker 2: national story is not because how Los Angeles goes the
Speaker 2: rest of the country goes. That's not the case at all,
Speaker 2: thank god. But the way that Spencer Pratt, a Republican
Speaker 2: an admitted Republican, is running for the office, and how
Speaker 2: he's treating the media, and how he is using AI. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, and how he just completely doesn't use talking
Speaker 2: points and is having success. On the other side of
Speaker 2: this break we're going to get into some recent polling
Speaker 2: that shows that what he's doing is working, it's moving
Speaker 2: the needle. And then we're going to play clips of
Speaker 2: an interview he did on NBC recently. It's not going
Speaker 2: to get into you know, the nitty gritty of potholes
Speaker 2: and the inner workings of you know, Los Angeles County
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, the city of Los Angeles. You know,
Speaker 2: no one cares about that stuff outside of LA. But
Speaker 2: how he handles this smug, condescending NBC reporter on National
Speaker 2: TV again, any politician listening to this, anyone working for
Speaker 2: a politician, anyone wanting to be a politician someday, or
Speaker 2: just political junkies in general. Maybe you're a donor to
Speaker 2: a politician, or maybe we're just a regular citizen. You
Speaker 2: want to hear this breakdown because he is doing it right,
Speaker 2: and I guarantee you he didn't study it. He doesn't
Speaker 2: have a dream political alliance. He is listening to political consultants,
Speaker 2: he's doing it really similar to another guy who did
Speaker 2: this sort of thing on the national scale about ten
Speaker 2: years ago. And you know what I'm talking about. So
Speaker 2: we'll get into that. We'll get into the situation overseas
Speaker 2: with Christians and people talking about Christians getting thrown in
Speaker 2: jail simply for expressing their viewpoint online. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Joey Pullman from The Federalist is going to join us
Speaker 2: later on during the show to get into that. And
Speaker 2: we have a whole lot of other things to get into.
Speaker 2: So let's rub our hands together, stretch our legs a bit,
Speaker 2: and be right back on Tony Katz today. I am
Speaker 2: Mike Coolidge in for Tony. Stay with us. We're back
Speaker 2: on Tony Katz today, Mike Coolidge in for Tony. And
Speaker 2: I'll throw it out there again those of you on
Speaker 2: X L, I, D G E. And I don't know
Speaker 2: how AI works with listening and posting and all this,
Speaker 2: but I say it each time I fill in for TOO,
Speaker 2: and I say, hey, if you follow me on X
Speaker 2: I'll follow you back. And occasionally I get some great listeners,
Speaker 2: you know, who clearly have been posting and they're real
Speaker 2: people and they've got you know, more than fifty or
Speaker 2: one hundred followers, that's awesome, and yeah, I'll follow you back.
Speaker 2: But then I get people with like zero followers and
Speaker 2: they're following like eight people, and it happens right after
Speaker 2: I do it, and I'm like, how does someone with
Speaker 2: zero followers go on X and then just follow, you know,
Speaker 2: to me saying that they're not a real person or
Speaker 2: they're fake or something. So only if you're real not fake.
Speaker 2: So you robots and fake people out there, please ignore this.
Speaker 2: But you real human beings, if you're listening right now
Speaker 2: and you follow K O O L I D g
Speaker 2: E on X during this broadcast, yeah I'll follow you back.
Speaker 2: So Spencer Pratt before the break, we teased it. He
Speaker 2: goes on NBC National NBC not local news, okay, and
Speaker 2: this smug, condescending reporter tries to basically tear them down. Now,
Speaker 2: here's what you have to understand about the legacy media
Speaker 2: and how they operate. You probably know this already, but
Speaker 2: just a reminder. They don't listen to the Republicans or
Speaker 2: Conservatives or anyone writer center who they interview. They have
Speaker 2: a list of questions, short ones and an agenda, and
Speaker 2: they ask the questions. They don't listen to the response,
Speaker 2: and if the recipient, if the interview e doesn't answer
Speaker 2: how they like them to, or they don't get what
Speaker 2: they're going for, or they somehow look smart or intelligent
Speaker 2: or try to make the interview er dumb, they'll just
Speaker 2: go back to the same question again and repeat it,
Speaker 2: and it's like you're like talking to a door. They
Speaker 2: don't listen, and then they'll sneak in a shot at
Speaker 2: the interview at the conservative interviewe specifically to make that
Speaker 2: the news, like to get that out there as the news,
Speaker 2: to make sure that their viewers consume that, and hopefully
Speaker 2: the interviewe, the conservative interviewee, will take the bait and
Speaker 2: make a fool of themselves and accept the premise of
Speaker 2: the question, and then boom, they got them. They got something.
Speaker 2: This is done has been done for years. Tim Russer
Speaker 2: did it on Meet the Press. I mean he at
Speaker 2: least was occasionally fair years ago to write a center guests,
Speaker 2: but he would do the same thing that Tuck Chuck
Speaker 2: Todd and then gosh, the woman now on Meet the
Speaker 2: Press is the absolute worst. She's not the best at this.
Speaker 2: She's not that smart, like how she asks the questions.
Speaker 2: But she does exactly what I just said, and everyone
Speaker 2: apparently at NBC seems to operate this way. Case in point,
Speaker 2: this guy. So he's interviewing Spencer Pratt, and let's just
Speaker 2: hear some of it and how he starts and how
Speaker 2: it goes.
Speaker 6: Get right into it.
Speaker 7: You're running against several people, including obviously the incumbent mayor,
Speaker 7: Karen Bass.
Speaker 6: And recently she said this, she said, Spencer is just.
Speaker 7: Mad that his supporters are AI cartoons and we have
Speaker 7: real Angelino's.
Speaker 6: It sounds like she's not taking you.
Speaker 2: Seriously, all right, So the whole point here is to
Speaker 2: get the audience to not take Spencer Pratt seriously. That's
Speaker 2: the whole point of this first question. Here, watch how
Speaker 2: Spencer Pratt handles it.
Speaker 6: It's not taking you seriously.
Speaker 8: Do you know what that was a response to, we
Speaker 8: should tell the view. Yes, that was me calling her
Speaker 8: out for the mist to meet because she's now facing
Speaker 8: six years in prison for electioneering because she hosted an
Speaker 8: event which is illegal in the state and the city,
Speaker 8: in front of the ballot box.
Speaker 6: You're accuser of that, right, No, No, it's on video.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's been it's with the laped now, So it's
Speaker 8: not accusation. She filmed herself because she's so used to
Speaker 8: not actually caring about the law that she filmed her
Speaker 8: own crime.
Speaker 9: So that is a response to me, say, and.
Speaker 6: What did you think about that? Though sounds like she's
Speaker 6: not taking you seriously.
Speaker 2: See he repeats it, not taking you seriously. I think
Speaker 2: he said it three times, right, not taking you seriously,
Speaker 2: You're not serious, not taking you seriously. Spencer Bratt's response
Speaker 2: immediately is brilliant. He and he a deeds Again, he's
Speaker 2: a natural at this. And the reason I'm not just
Speaker 2: you know, because I necessarily care about Los Angeles. I mean,
Speaker 2: it'll be fantastic that he if he were to win.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, take notes, people on the right who are
Speaker 2: running for office, or we're going to run for office
Speaker 2: in the future, or you're advising somebody you're friend is
Speaker 2: in office in the in the state house or locally
Speaker 2: and for school boarder or running for congress. Listen to
Speaker 2: how he does this. This is how you do it.
Speaker 8: She doesn't need to take me serious. It's the LAPD
Speaker 8: that has the case. I'm not so good luck, ma'am.
Speaker 6: Right, but what do you think she's taking me seriously
Speaker 6: in your support?
Speaker 8: I more think she's taking me very serious. I think
Speaker 8: that was a silly little response. And again I don't
Speaker 8: make any AI. All my odds are made by a director,
Speaker 8: a shot on a red camera.
Speaker 9: I don't have one aid.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I want to ask you.
Speaker 7: We're going to be watching this and this is a
Speaker 7: national audience, right, and they may be asking themselves, what
Speaker 7: is Spencer Pratt from the Hills doing running for the
Speaker 7: mayor of Los Angeles?
Speaker 6: How is he qualified?
Speaker 2: Again, the narrative that this NBC smug reporter has here
Speaker 2: is he's a joke. Spencer pro He's clearly not a joke.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a neck and neck in the polls
Speaker 2: with his two opponents according to the most re one,
Speaker 2: and clearly Los Angelinos take him seriously. But this kind
Speaker 2: of late in the game, because the election is this Tuesday.
Speaker 2: This NBC reporter National News is trying to make news,
Speaker 2: but more importantly, get his millions of viewers. This is
Speaker 2: a national audience and probably a lot of them in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, probably a lot of them are voting to say,
Speaker 2: you know this, this Spencer practice a joke. He was
Speaker 2: a reality TV star twenty years ago. That's his qualifications,
Speaker 2: and of course that's what he brings up, is is
Speaker 2: he a or why are you qualified to be mayor? Again,
Speaker 2: listen to how Spencer Pratt handles it.
Speaker 9: Would you say, well, thankfully?
Speaker 10: Mayor.
Speaker 8: Vasa's failure was a national story when she led seven
Speaker 8: thousand homes burn to the ground when she was out
Speaker 8: of the country in Ghana, and twelve people my neighbors
Speaker 8: burned alive, and when nobody ran against her, I had
Speaker 8: to stay up so that she didn't just go in
Speaker 8: to get four more years after being an utter failure
Speaker 8: for Los Angeles.
Speaker 9: So I think the national story is actually.
Speaker 8: Why I'm surging across the country because they say, finally
Speaker 8: someone is stepping up against these politicians that convern your
Speaker 8: whole down down. Let your tax money all going to
Speaker 8: increasing drug addicts in front of your the kids at
Speaker 8: the park or moms going to school with their kids.
Speaker 9: Enough is enough?
Speaker 6: You know that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear the guy in the background, Yeah, like
Speaker 2: he's not listening. He's like, no, no, no, you're not
Speaker 2: answering it. How I need you to answer it? Is
Speaker 2: what the smug NBC journalist quote unquote is doing here.
Speaker 2: He needs to show that Spencer Pratt is not to
Speaker 2: be taken seriously. Spencer Pratt if he took the bait,
Speaker 2: and what most politicians are, just anyone being interviewed or
Speaker 2: national TV would be is they'd be deferential to this.
Speaker 2: Oh oh my gosh, thank you so much for putting
Speaker 2: me in front of all of your your viewers. I
Speaker 2: mean I'm qualified. Yeah, I mean I've been a business
Speaker 2: owner and done some things like they would answer the
Speaker 2: question directly. No, you don't need to do that, especially
Speaker 2: to a smug reporter like this. You don't have to
Speaker 2: answer the question at all. You have to respond to
Speaker 2: the question. And the response Brad gives here is about
Speaker 2: the current incompetent mayor and the specific things that are
Speaker 2: affecting the voters watching this that they can change if
Speaker 2: they vote for him.
Speaker 7: Awesome, Your persona is a reality star villain. It's always
Speaker 7: been all about Spencer, at least in front of the cameras.
Speaker 7: So how do you convince people that you really care
Speaker 7: about your neighbors, you care about other people, you just
Speaker 7: don't care about yourself, Because the last decade, more than that,
Speaker 7: it's been all about Spencer.
Speaker 9: Well, technically it's been about my wife, yes, right, So.
Speaker 8: I was always fighting for my wife and who i'm
Speaker 8: now almost twenty years happily ever after, or my kids.
Speaker 8: I was just doing that to make money to pay
Speaker 8: for my family. But for these people, thankfully, I'm the
Speaker 8: look around candidate. I had to say, look around, use
Speaker 8: your own eyes. Do you see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 8: They don't need to worry about what I was before
Speaker 8: my house burned down and before I got in the race,
Speaker 8: because why because they look around, they see what I'm
Speaker 8: running on.
Speaker 9: I'm running on making the streets safe.
Speaker 8: I'm running on actually getting the drug addicts dying on
Speaker 8: the sidewalks seven a day that our councilwomen and our
Speaker 8: mayor who have been in charge of that for combined
Speaker 8: ten years almost now they are in charge that.
Speaker 9: I'm saying, you're voting for me.
Speaker 8: As a mandata change, So I don't need to convince
Speaker 8: anybody about my past.
Speaker 9: I'm living in the.
Speaker 8: President and I'm speaking about what everyone sees with their
Speaker 8: own eyes.
Speaker 9: I don't need to convince any of my voters.
Speaker 8: Because I'm telling them exactly what we all see together.
Speaker 2: Give it, give it, see everything, is confrontational with this reporter,
Speaker 2: and it's adversarial the entire time if he was a
Speaker 2: normal human being, like and I'm just throwing his name
Speaker 2: out there because he's probably the best at conversations in
Speaker 2: the world right now, which is why it is the
Speaker 2: number one podcast that's Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan actually listens,
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan actually has curiosity. Tony Katz does too. I
Speaker 2: am not Tony Kats. I am Mike Coolidge filling in
Speaker 2: for Tony Katz. More coming up after this on Tony
Speaker 2: Cats Today. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. Yes
Speaker 2: I do, Yes, I do. We're back on the Michael
Speaker 2: Coolian whoa rewind. We're back on Tony Katz Today. I
Speaker 2: am Michael Coolidge in for Tony Katz. Yes. I was
Speaker 2: a radio host of my own right for fifteen years,
Speaker 2: host of the show called The Michael Which Show. And
Speaker 2: that's definitely is an old habit. It dies hard, you know,
Speaker 2: all right. So before the break, we were playing some
Speaker 2: of this Spencer Pratt interview with this character on NBC
Speaker 2: for the purposes of showing you how it's done both
Speaker 2: how the left sets up right of center people conservatives,
Speaker 2: anything that is pro Republican or pro Trump, or anything
Speaker 2: that's really anti woke or anti left worldview. The whole
Speaker 2: setup and the whole purpose of it is to diminish it,
Speaker 2: mockt try to make it not be taken seriously because
Speaker 2: it's so foreign to them, you know, even though we're
Speaker 2: more than half the country. But also to show you
Speaker 2: how it's done in the how to do it, since
Speaker 2: from what Spencer Pratt is doing, how he is handling,
Speaker 2: and he's so good at it. Naturally, you don't take
Speaker 2: the premise of the question down. You don't answer the question,
Speaker 2: especially if the whole point of the question is to
Speaker 2: make you look bad, and you realize who you're talking with.
Speaker 2: It's not this smug reporter, it's the millions of people
Speaker 2: watching it. Yes, legacy media is dying and it doesn't
Speaker 2: have the influence it used to, but they still reach
Speaker 2: millions of people. NBC Nightly News still has millions and
Speaker 2: millions of viewers three four five six million viewers on
Speaker 2: any given night, and probably hundreds of thousands of those
Speaker 2: viewers are Los Angeles voters. So he is trying to
Speaker 2: reach voters. He doesn't care about any stupid reality show.
Speaker 2: That's another thing I like about this guy. He already
Speaker 2: was on a reality show. He already made millions of
Speaker 2: dollars on a reality show. He was already famous when
Speaker 2: he was young. He's been there, he's done that. He's
Speaker 2: feeding his family still off of that fame. He doesn't
Speaker 2: need to, like see what it's like to be famous.
Speaker 2: He's already done it, and he's been you know, made
Speaker 2: fun of, mocked up, all the things that go with,
Speaker 2: you know, being famous on a reality show. So there's
Speaker 2: not a whole lot they can do to him. Again,
Speaker 2: the similarities with Trump are so many. There's just so
Speaker 2: many back to some more clips services. I could play
Speaker 2: this for the whole show. I'm not going to, but
Speaker 2: it's just again, so text book on how to do this.
Speaker 8: Seven a day that our councilwomen and our mayor, who
Speaker 8: have been in charge of that for combined ten years
Speaker 8: almost now they are in charge. That I'm saying, you're
Speaker 8: voting for me is a mandata change. So I don't
Speaker 8: need to convince anybody about my past. I'm living in
Speaker 8: the president and I'm speaking about what everyone sees with
Speaker 8: their own eyes. I don't need to convince any of
Speaker 8: my voters because I'm telling them exactly what we.
Speaker 9: All see together.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you need a majority of voters eventually, right
Speaker 7: June second, You're gonna have to win a majority of
Speaker 7: those votes. What about people that might say, is this
Speaker 7: just about self promotion? Is this just about to get
Speaker 7: your brand? And man, your brand is hot right now,
Speaker 7: It's probably hotter than ever right now. How do you
Speaker 7: convince those people that you say, no, I really want
Speaker 7: this job.
Speaker 6: I want to change the city.
Speaker 2: Have you convinced these people? Is anyone thinking that other
Speaker 2: than you and your ILK small GMBC reporter.
Speaker 8: Let's rewind. Everything I've ever worked for burned in my house.
Speaker 8: Everything my parents ever worked for, burned in their house.
Speaker 9: I got on this mission. It was never to run
Speaker 9: for mayor.
Speaker 8: I started this to expose the corruption and the negligence
Speaker 8: of our city leaders. And when I got to the
Speaker 8: farthest distance I could, where I proved they were obstructing justice,
Speaker 8: altering after action reports, after the fire, and there was
Speaker 8: nothing more they could do. That's when I organically got
Speaker 8: on the race. Because no one else was going to run.
Speaker 8: I was never going to be the mayor, but nobody
Speaker 8: was going to run against her, that could beat her.
Speaker 8: I had to step into this again. Being running for
Speaker 8: mayor is not fun. Let's be clear.
Speaker 9: I have to have twenty four hour security with the
Speaker 9: amount of death threats.
Speaker 8: My kid now to have a security next to him
Speaker 8: when he goes in the ocean to psychos come to
Speaker 8: the beach. So this is not like, Oh, I get
Speaker 8: to be on a new show. I'm like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 8: Tom Cruise. I'm in Top Gun three with Miles Teller.
Speaker 8: This is not fun fighting DSA socialists in the city
Speaker 8: of La So anybody that really is paying attention politics
Speaker 8: is not fun. And now I'm deep in politics, fighting
Speaker 8: a machine that is against the truth, a machine that
Speaker 8: is against stopping somebody exposing twenty four plus billion dollars
Speaker 8: of cartel level money laundering.
Speaker 9: I promise you is way more fun.
Speaker 8: When I have my house and I was feeding hummingbirds
Speaker 8: and selling healing crystals. I would like that life back,
Speaker 8: but I can't get that.
Speaker 6: And I want to talk about the crystals.
Speaker 2: So of course you want to talk about the crystals
Speaker 2: because it sounds a little weird, right, sounds a little negative. Oh,
Speaker 2: I got a whole list of questions about the crystals
Speaker 2: because we want to make you look stupid. That's the
Speaker 2: goal here, that's the point and the narrative that this lefty,
Speaker 2: smug NBC reporter is pushing and he's like, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: you're gonna help me that. Thanks for mentioning them the crystals. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're going to get on that. God forbid. This guy
Speaker 2: mentioned the homeless problem, the incompetence of Mayor Bass, the
Speaker 2: absolute blank hole that Los Angeles has become with the
Speaker 2: drugs and the poop everywhere, and the absolute insane debt
Speaker 2: that the city has. The incompetent mayor, like, forget about
Speaker 2: all that stuff. No, no, no, no. The point of all
Speaker 2: these questions is to make Spencer Ratt look stupid and
Speaker 2: not take them seriously and mock him about you know,
Speaker 2: this crystal thing, which, as you'll see or hear, I
Speaker 2: should say, he hits out of the park as well.
Speaker 2: Spener Pratt, you've made.
Speaker 7: The case why Karen Bash should lose. What's the case
Speaker 7: why Spencer Pride should win?
Speaker 2: Okay, how he answers that is as follows.
Speaker 7: You've made the case why Karen Bass should lose. What's
Speaker 7: the case why Spencer pridd should win.
Speaker 9: There's no case.
Speaker 8: It's a fact because we need change in LA. We
Speaker 8: can't do four more years of Karen Bass. There won't
Speaker 8: be in LA. We lose fifty thousand people last year,
Speaker 8: over one hundred businesses close. I meet with people now
Speaker 8: that have a lot of investment in La. If Karen
Speaker 8: Bass were to get reelected, they're all leaving.
Speaker 9: They're cutting their losses.
Speaker 2: LA will sounds like Chicago.
Speaker 7: But what Spencer pracketted you? Somebody else could do that too?
Speaker 7: Who somebody else could win?
Speaker 11: I'm asking you who right now in the polls it's
Speaker 11: Spencer prad or Caravas So we don't get to play
Speaker 11: imaginary savior coming in. You're either stuck with caravass Is
Speaker 11: throwing LA or you have a new candidate.
Speaker 9: We're stopping this direction of the city.
Speaker 2: Do you follow politics there? NBC report elections are binary
Speaker 2: in this case. You know, after a runoff is over,
Speaker 2: you either vote for her or you vote for him.
Speaker 2: There's still what not's someone else? There's only two choices,
Speaker 2: dummy said anymore.
Speaker 8: People are again are voting for me because I'm the mandate
Speaker 8: in change.
Speaker 9: That's why they're voting for me.
Speaker 8: Not because I'm Spencer Pratt, not because what I did
Speaker 8: twenty years ago, not what I did two years ago.
Speaker 9: It's because what I'm saying right now, no more. Stop.
Speaker 7: Governor Gavin Newsom just endorsed Karen Bass today, saying, quote,
Speaker 7: the work Karen Bass is doing in LA's making our
Speaker 7: entire state stronger with an eighteen percent decline in homelessness
Speaker 7: while it grew nationally historic drops and violent crime, boosting
Speaker 7: film production in LA, and protecting our communities against ice.
Speaker 7: She has my full support for re election. Do you
Speaker 7: think that endorsement is going to help Careen Bass?
Speaker 8: I think that endorsement. These two are co conspirators. They
Speaker 8: are criminal partners in the negligence that led to seven
Speaker 8: thousand houses burning down.
Speaker 7: You think Governor Gavin Newsom is a criminal?
Speaker 8: In my opinion, it's criminal negligence when you fail ale
Speaker 8: your taxpayers and they burn alive because of choices you
Speaker 8: made with your state park that you're responsible from.
Speaker 9: Same with Mayor Karen Bass. Again, it is my opinion I.
Speaker 8: Believe if you let people burn alive because of your negligence,
Speaker 8: that becomes criminal negligence. So again, of course he's endorsing her.
Speaker 8: They're both responsible for this. And let's talk about a
Speaker 8: homeless number. That is the most made up number in
Speaker 8: the history of California, and he makes up a lot
Speaker 8: of numbers.
Speaker 9: The homelessness from when.
Speaker 8: It was actually started tracking with Karen Bass has actually increased.
Speaker 8: She's talking about last year if that's a real number,
Speaker 8: but it's increased since she got in. Not to mention,
Speaker 8: you know how they count. They drive around one night
Speaker 8: of the year and they go one, two, three, Maybe
Speaker 8: there's somebody in the sewer. Oh, we can't look in
Speaker 8: that ten. It's the most Even the RAND Corporation says
Speaker 8: that number is thirty percent low. And I would say
Speaker 8: the Rand Corporation number is low, then what else was that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Crime rates here, I look to LA.
Speaker 8: Police Department, cropt know you to look at I don't
Speaker 8: need to look at anything because I live in now.
Speaker 9: Crimes crimes, I'll tell you.
Speaker 8: Homicides are down across the country since COVID. That's not
Speaker 8: because of Karen Bass. That's a national trend. But ready
Speaker 8: for this, you can from last year. But yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: Mayor Bass won't acknowledge that the forty two thousand people,
Speaker 8: she says forty two thousand. I say, there's seventy thousand
Speaker 8: naked drug addicts, shooting up, smoking funnel, defecating.
Speaker 9: On the street, peeing on the street. These are all crimes.
Speaker 2: You've said that they added out something here, but the
Speaker 2: you could just tell by the way this is playing.
Speaker 2: But the smug NBC reporter shaking his head while we're
Speaker 2: saying this again, it's adversarial the entire time, trying to
Speaker 2: argue with him on behalf of caravaths. That's what he's doing.
Speaker 2: He's saying crime's down, everything's honky Dori in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: You're like making this stuff up. He's not, and he
Speaker 2: clearly no what he's talking about. And the thing I
Speaker 2: love the most about Spencer Pratt and again, take notes
Speaker 2: if you're ever in this position, or you're advising somebody,
Speaker 2: or you're running, you want to run for office, or
Speaker 2: you just want to next time you see somebody you
Speaker 2: support at an event and you want to give them
Speaker 2: some piece of advice, remain confident and don't accept the
Speaker 2: premise of these questions. He with Spencer Pratt is just
Speaker 2: like he's talking to him normally, he's listening to him. No,
Speaker 2: he's not thinking in his mind. Wait, what's the talking
Speaker 2: point that my advisors said, I need to spit out here?
Speaker 2: We're for working families or you know, enough is enough?
Speaker 2: Like he's not doing that. He is on the fly,
Speaker 2: extemporaneously speaking. Remind you of anyone, Remind you of anyone
Speaker 2: else who uh doesn't do talking points, who just thinks
Speaker 2: and responds when you when you know what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: when you're living it, and when you're thinking and listening,
Speaker 2: you can actually have a conversation and instead and this
Speaker 2: again is we're watching in real time the way that
Speaker 2: politics and communication is changing. And I'm here for it
Speaker 2: and I love it. It is you have two sides.
Speaker 2: For years it was, I mean for decades it was
Speaker 2: both sides had talking points. The you know journalists, these
Speaker 2: legacy media types, they have their questions. They don't listen
Speaker 2: to the response of the recipient, you know, usually a
Speaker 2: politician in a case like this, and then the politician
Speaker 2: has the talking points, so there's no actual thinking or
Speaker 2: the you know, human interaction discussion going on. It's questions
Speaker 2: that they're going to ask and put out no matter what,
Speaker 2: and then the talking points just recited back and forth.
Speaker 2: But when you have at least one of them listening
Speaker 2: and one of them talking like a normal human being,
Speaker 2: you can actually get somewhere. And that's what Spencer Pratt
Speaker 2: is doing here. There's one more part of this where
Speaker 2: he asks him, Oh, you got you got to ask
Speaker 2: him this, got to ask him about Trump, you know,
Speaker 2: because that might hurt him. In a super blue city
Speaker 2: like Los Angeles, it's definitely going to hurt him. And
Speaker 2: listen to how Spencer Pratt handles that. On the other
Speaker 2: side of this break, this is Tony Kasts today. I
Speaker 2: am Ike Cool, which in for Tony Stay with us.
Speaker 2: We're back with Tony Kasts today. Mike Cool, which in
Speaker 2: for Tony. This smug NBC reporter asks Spencer Pratt of course,
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump and tries to drag it out as
Speaker 2: long as possible to try to get him to, you know,
Speaker 2: still stay to him with the president who has a
Speaker 2: low approval right ringing right now in a deep blue city. Again,
Speaker 2: this is the whole point here that he's trying to accomplish.
Speaker 7: Everything, as you may or may not know, in politics
Speaker 7: these days, is seen through the prism of President Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: Do you think President Trump is a good President.
Speaker 8: I again, the only prism I see anything is what
Speaker 8: I live my town. Bernie Dallas will go in the race.
Speaker 8: I'm in a local race. The President has nothing to
Speaker 8: do with why my streets have naked drug addicts, my
Speaker 8: streets don't have lights in the polls, my streets have
Speaker 8: potholes all over, my town burned down.
Speaker 9: My race is a local risk.
Speaker 8: I don't care what's going on in the in the
Speaker 8: national politics in other states.
Speaker 9: I am running for a local position.
Speaker 6: So right, but you need to have a relationship with
Speaker 6: the federal government.
Speaker 7: You just said a few minutes ago you were going
Speaker 7: to move homeless to the federal lands.
Speaker 6: You gotta have a relationship with the federal government. So
Speaker 6: what is your take on President Trump?
Speaker 7: You got to say John Olympics in two years, you're
Speaker 7: gonna take Trump he or that city. Maybe what's your
Speaker 7: relationship going to be like with President Trump?
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a relationship. Three times, he says,
Speaker 2: they got to say Trump to.
Speaker 9: Presidents, and they're going to be the same.
Speaker 8: I'm going to work with the President the same way
Speaker 8: I'm going to work with the city council members or
Speaker 8: my state reps or the lieutenant.
Speaker 9: Governor or the new governor.
Speaker 8: I'm going to work with whoever I need to work
Speaker 8: with to execute the best for Angelino's period.
Speaker 6: Do you want his endorsement?
Speaker 9: I don't need anyone's endorsement. But mothers. That's who's getting
Speaker 9: me elected.
Speaker 8: People keep forgetting it's democratic moms that do not feel
Speaker 8: safe that are putting me in office in five days.
Speaker 6: Can you explain to me something because you don't.
Speaker 7: You're not afraid of anything, You're not afraid of giving
Speaker 7: your opinion or anything. But you won't give me an
Speaker 7: opinion on President Trump. And I get it that his endorsement,
Speaker 7: his blessing may may not be good for you, likely
Speaker 7: isn't good for you in LA.
Speaker 9: But if you're fearless.
Speaker 6: But if you're fearless, what do you think of President Trump?
Speaker 2: You're Republican?
Speaker 9: Right again? This is this right here where you're doing I'm.
Speaker 11: Just as I'm telling you, this conversation is what's destroyed
Speaker 11: local election exactly.
Speaker 8: People don't care in LA. They want to feel safe.
Speaker 8: They don't want to step in human poop. I don't
Speaker 8: need to have personal opinions about anybody that doesn't affect
Speaker 8: them stepping in human poop.
Speaker 9: It's not being scared.
Speaker 8: I'm just not falling in for this tribal politics back
Speaker 8: and forth.
Speaker 9: It's local election.
Speaker 8: I'm not running for presidents, so it doesn't matter my
Speaker 8: opinion on any presidents.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh my gosh, this guy thinks this, you know,
Speaker 2: smug NBC reporter thinks that he's got him here. Oh,
Speaker 2: he's going to get him. He's going to get Spencer
Speaker 2: Pratt to give some kind of quote saying I like
Speaker 2: President Trump or I have no problem with President Trump.
Speaker 2: That was the bait. That's what he wanted him to say,
Speaker 2: so that that can, of course be clipped and put
Speaker 2: in a Karen bass ad and tie him with Trump
Speaker 2: in a deep blue city where you know, the approval
Speaker 2: rating of Trump in a deep blue city, of course,
Speaker 2: is very low. All these people were voting, but Pratt
Speaker 2: didn't take the bait. Turned it right back on that smug,
Speaker 2: condescending reporter, and you see what you're doing. This is
Speaker 2: why local politics and the media coverage of it is
Speaker 2: so terrible for me, because of people like you, the smug,
Speaker 2: condescending you know what, you're right back on Tony Kats today.
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Speaker 2: is going to join us here in a bit talking
Speaker 2: about this crazy, crazy atmosphere really that exists in Europe
Speaker 2: about free speech. It's not just England, it's Finland, it's Germany.
Speaker 2: You know these quote unquote Western civilization countries. The whole
Speaker 2: concept of our God given right to freely express ourselves
Speaker 2: that governments should not ever inhibit. We have this great
Speaker 2: thing in the United States called the Constitution. The Bill
Speaker 2: of Rights laid it out. In fact, the very first one,
Speaker 2: Congress shall make no law averaging the freedom of expression.
Speaker 2: We have freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing it, but it's so important. The Constitution and
Speaker 2: the Bill of Rights don't give us the right we
Speaker 2: have to freely express ourselves. God gave us that. It's
Speaker 2: endowed by our creator. The Constitution just limits the United
Speaker 2: States government from restricting it. Well, the thing is, in
Speaker 2: some of these other countries, they don't have a constitution
Speaker 2: or a law that says that the government can't restrict
Speaker 2: free rights or freedom of speech. So what do they do.
Speaker 2: They restrict free speech. And it's a really really disturbing
Speaker 2: thing that's happening about banning Christians from writing about the Bible.
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, European authorities are trying
Speaker 2: to keep the world unaware that they're banning Christians from
Speaker 2: writing about the Bible. Yeah, a Protestant bishop and pastor's
Speaker 2: wife will appeal to the European Court of Human Rights
Speaker 2: the Finnish Supreme Court's recent ban on their speech affirming
Speaker 2: what the Bible says about human sexuality. The appeal could
Speaker 2: take years amid escalating Soviet like restrictions on free speech
Speaker 2: and religious expression across the continent that extend to Americans
Speaker 2: under European Internet censorship and its March decision, Finland's Supreme
Speaker 2: Court tried to dodge the reality that it's three to
Speaker 2: two conviction of Bishop Bishop Johanna Pojola and Member of
Speaker 2: Parliament Pavi Resinan criminalizes speech stating Christian theology about sex.
Speaker 2: It did quit Rasanan of a charge for posting a
Speaker 2: Bible verse on x she noted in an in person
Speaker 2: exclusive interview with The Federalist, but then it convicted her
Speaker 2: under Finland's hate crime quote unquote law for writing and
Speaker 2: publishing a book discussing the central Christian teachings that men
Speaker 2: and women are different and sexually complimentary. God forbid figurably speaking,
Speaker 2: you say that this is also the position of Orthodox
Speaker 2: Muslims and Jews, and global majorities of Buddhism and Hinduism.
Speaker 2: Joy Pullman wrote this piece, which I highly encourage you
Speaker 2: to read European author of banned book. It is Christianity itself.
Speaker 2: They are trying to censor. You can read that on
Speaker 2: The Federalist. She's going to dig into this a little
Speaker 2: bit deeper on the other side of this break. Trust me,
Speaker 2: you're not going to want to miss this Joey Pullman
Speaker 2: from The Federalist. After this on Tony Kats today, I
Speaker 2: am Michael, which in for Tony, will be right back.
Speaker 2: We are back on Tony Katz today. I am Mike
Speaker 2: Lidge filling in for Tony on this beautiful Friday. We
Speaker 2: are living in the great state of Illinois, and our
Speaker 2: next guest, I believe lives in the state that this
Speaker 2: radio show is broadcasting from. Joy Pullman, executive editor at
Speaker 2: The Federalist. Welcome on to Tony Kats today.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Are you indeed in Indiana? In Indiana?
Speaker 4: I am yes.
Speaker 2: Well, we could get into Indiana politics and all of that,
Speaker 2: but I know that some of these broadcasts are outside
Speaker 2: of Indiana. And he wrote this fantastic piece last week
Speaker 2: in The Federalist about this crazy censorship, not your censorship,
Speaker 2: but like criminality that is occurring in Finland about these
Speaker 2: authors and this member of Parliament. Tell our listeners what
Speaker 2: this is about. We read some of it before the break,
Speaker 2: but this is nuts and seems to be a kind
Speaker 2: of trend across the pond in anti free speech stuff
Speaker 2: and in this case, anti Christian stuff.
Speaker 5: Well, I think your listeners have to understand that what
Speaker 5: is happening in Europe on this free speech and the
Speaker 5: Christian repression front is actually affecting Americans right now because
Speaker 5: the censorship controls that the European Union have put on
Speaker 5: social media companies worldwide. Social media companies such as Google, YouTube, Facebook,
Speaker 5: you know, all xes engage in litigation against.
Speaker 4: Them right now over this. They are right now.
Speaker 5: Controlling what you and I say on the Internet and
Speaker 5: all of those forums, just as they had been under
Speaker 5: the lockdowns under COVID. So even though you know, the
Speaker 5: Biden administration is currently no longer in power and it's
Speaker 5: not running those through its apparatus in the United States,
Speaker 5: we are still having the same effects thanks to.
Speaker 4: The European Union. And so this story is.
Speaker 5: Related to that I've been following for a very long time.
Speaker 5: A Christian grandmother, I mean, she's also a medical doctor.
Speaker 5: She's been a member of Parliament for some thirty parliament
Speaker 5: for some thirty years, Interior Minister of her country, which
Speaker 5: places her over police.
Speaker 4: Her name is Pieve Rassman.
Speaker 2: But so she in.
Speaker 5: Twenty nineteen was basically brought up in charges, dragged into
Speaker 5: the local police station for more than thirteen hours, interrogated
Speaker 5: because she posted a picture of a Bible verse on Twitter.
Speaker 5: She was arguing, so, Finland has a established state church
Speaker 5: that I really hesitate to call a church because it
Speaker 5: just does not believe in.
Speaker 4: The Word of God anymore. I really kind of is
Speaker 4: a false church, I would say. And so she was,
Speaker 4: you know, arguing with them.
Speaker 5: They had sponsored a pride parade in Finland's largest city,
Speaker 5: and so, you know, so Paieve happens to also be
Speaker 5: the wife of a theology of a pastor and a
Speaker 5: theology professor with a PhD.
Speaker 4: You know, so she is very Christian.
Speaker 5: Literate, and so she was saying to them, right, like,
Speaker 5: the sponsorship of a pride parade is at odds with
Speaker 5: our Christian faith in the Bible, clearly says so. And so,
Speaker 5: long story short, that was kind of the beginning of it.
Speaker 5: But she now has had to appeal her case all
Speaker 5: the way to where it stands now to the European
Speaker 5: Court of Human Rights, which, as listeners probably codess is
Speaker 5: a very anti Christian, you know, very hostile venue. But
Speaker 5: her National Supreme Court convicted her of hate crimes under
Speaker 5: its War Crimes and you know, the Hatred for Minorities acts.
Speaker 5: It's free speech kind of denying sort of law when
Speaker 5: we have a lot of these also.
Speaker 4: Inside of the United States.
Speaker 5: And so she is a convicted criminal for publishing a
Speaker 5: booklet about what the Bible says about how men and
Speaker 5: women are different in marriages God's design. So I mean,
Speaker 5: so for your listeners, I think this is just for
Speaker 5: regardless of whether you believe, you know, agree with her
Speaker 5: on the theology, whether you're a Christian, just to literally.
Speaker 4: The the you know, the states that the.
Speaker 5: Finnish Supreme Court wants to have her book banned from
Speaker 5: the Internet and from print.
Speaker 2: You know, so you just think of the.
Speaker 5: Chilling implications of being unable to speak about your views
Speaker 5: about important social topics. She never does so in a
Speaker 5: hostile way. She expresses, you know that God loves and
Speaker 5: values all people, no matter the actions that they take.
Speaker 5: You know, that's a Christian view as well, you know.
Speaker 5: So she's not a hate manger out there staying cool things.
Speaker 5: She's a very gentle and kind woman, you know. But
Speaker 5: she is a criminal now because of what her speech
Speaker 5: has said, because she believes what the Bible says.
Speaker 2: It's insane and I think so many Americans take it
Speaker 2: for granted that. You know, we have this constitution, this
Speaker 2: still the rights that prohibits our government from restricting free speech.
Speaker 2: But these countries in Europe don't have that. And when
Speaker 2: you don't have that restriction, I know England is certainly
Speaker 2: going through this. Germany has said that doesn't protect free speech,
Speaker 2: and in this case, I mean people are going to
Speaker 2: jail or very likely could go to jail. Sticking on
Speaker 2: this case for a second, do you are you hopeful
Speaker 2: at all that this appeal could go their way? Do you?
Speaker 3: Do?
Speaker 2: You know, do they have advocates in Finland standing up
Speaker 2: for them, like who are pushing back against the government,
Speaker 2: or because of the restriction of free speech, people aren't
Speaker 2: able to freely assemble and communicate and get people together.
Speaker 2: Like how hopeful you with the outcome of this case?
Speaker 5: Well, I do think that, especially if you know important
Speaker 5: people in the US government, you know, prioritize this case
Speaker 5: and give it greater visibility. I know that they already
Speaker 5: you know, have been included in diplomatic communications, for example
Speaker 5: Payev's case. And it's not just her, but also you know,
Speaker 5: the Christian, the Protestant bishop of a non state.
Speaker 4: Endorsed church in Finland. He's also been convicted as a criminal.
Speaker 5: Because he published the booklet that she wrote about talk
Speaker 5: saying what the Bible says, you know. So, so I
Speaker 5: do think with the additional pressure, you know, pressure has
Speaker 5: been applied. Diplomatic efforts have been made from the United States.
Speaker 5: Many members of Congress, including Chip Roy in Texas, you know,
Speaker 5: have stood up and supported you know, publicly. Uh, the
Speaker 5: Department of State under Marco Rubio has publicly supported Paiev
Speaker 5: in her in this trial.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 4: So there are things that have been done.
Speaker 5: I think continuing to do that is helpful because I
Speaker 5: do think, you know, the public refutation of the of
Speaker 5: Europe really matters here, and I do think it's it's important,
Speaker 5: you know, for people to understand that, right Europe is
Speaker 5: very hostile and sees Russia as this.
Speaker 4: Big, bad, terrible you know guy.
Speaker 5: But there are more people in jail for speech crimes
Speaker 5: in England than there are currently in Russia. And again
Speaker 5: I'm not saying everything is between the two countries, right,
Speaker 5: you know, Vladimir Putin, you know, he's cut through at
Speaker 5: kind of guy, right, But the point being, you can't
Speaker 5: sit there and say that you have some kind of
Speaker 5: moral high ground, that you are assuring the human rights
Speaker 5: of your citizens and that you're fighting Russia because it
Speaker 5: does it represses its citizens when they are literally engaging
Speaker 5: in the same kind of repression against their own citizens
Speaker 5: that Russia is doing.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So I think those are some effective ways to be
Speaker 5: talked and thinking about this. And Americans do have to
Speaker 5: understand that all of these global matters.
Speaker 4: Absolutely do affect us. You know. When I know, I
Speaker 4: saw Payavi.
Speaker 5: She was here in Indiana receiving an honorary doctorate from
Speaker 5: a theological seminary a couple of weeks I think about
Speaker 5: a week ago, maybe, yeah, I think it was a
Speaker 5: week and you know, and so when I talked with her, she.
Speaker 4: Was, you know, underscoring.
Speaker 5: Audience members were asking her, you know, how could this
Speaker 5: come to the United States, And she says yes, because,
Speaker 5: as you probably know, Michael. We have hate speech laws
Speaker 5: all across the United States.
Speaker 4: There are many with them.
Speaker 5: In fact, under Republican Governor Mike Pence, you know, we
Speaker 5: had created special legal protections for queer people with the
Speaker 5: riff ra Hol debacle that he you know, basically talked
Speaker 5: tail and ran and our our legislature followed him. So
Speaker 5: all the way out here and read Indiana, right, we
Speaker 5: have laws that give special preferences to queer people that
Speaker 5: are vague and allow for the criminalization of Christianity. And
Speaker 5: again with the Supreme Court decision, is Finland using the
Speaker 5: law very similar, you know to the kind that we
Speaker 5: have in Indiana. They're in Colorado, they're in California, they're Illinois,
Speaker 5: they're in New York, all across they have used it
Speaker 5: to basically make it, you know, quite legally questionable. Whether
Speaker 5: you can preach what the Bible says from a pulpit,
Speaker 5: whether you can have a Bible study where you talk
Speaker 5: about what the Bible says about how men and women
Speaker 5: are different. So that's the slippery slopes that these kinds
Speaker 5: of laws are on, and they are already inside the
Speaker 5: United States as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's it's such a little like incremental creep.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not there's no one out there saying
Speaker 2: let's get rid of the First Amendment. It's these little
Speaker 2: tiny things. It's almost like when when Twitter first started
Speaker 2: censoring people, Well you can't call for the death of
Speaker 2: someone or the rape of someone. Okay, you're kicked off Twitter.
Speaker 2: Well then now you can't also, you know, say something
Speaker 2: that is negative or makes people uncomfortable, you know about
Speaker 2: LGBT whatever, So you're banned from Twitter. And then it
Speaker 2: was like anyone who wasn't spouting the leftist orthodoxy was
Speaker 2: getting banned from from Twitter. And then you couldn't even
Speaker 2: mentioned Hunter Biden's laptop. That's where where it eventually came to.
Speaker 2: And then of course Elon Musk bought it, changed it
Speaker 2: to X and the rest is history. But you we
Speaker 2: do get a glimpse on to this mindset when they
Speaker 2: get power, Like you mentioned, COVID was the extreme example
Speaker 2: of that. There are tons of people in the United
Speaker 2: States who look to Finland and the UK and Germany
Speaker 2: with a little jealousy. Problemly don't they, Oh.
Speaker 4: They absolutely do?
Speaker 5: And e fact I mean so having followed the whole
Speaker 5: censorship issue, something that deeply continues to affect the federalists
Speaker 5: where were specifically targeted by the Biden administration. And you know,
Speaker 5: some of these European organizations that want censorship, you know,
Speaker 5: put us on their hit list for destruction.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So we followed all of.
Speaker 5: That debate, and that is deeply tied into what's going
Speaker 5: on here. The global leftist movement does not you know,
Speaker 5: stop it borders, and you know, Democrats in the United
Speaker 5: States absolutely are getting policy ideas from the European counterparts
Speaker 5: andicly coordinating with them right to kind of move the
Speaker 5: entire Biden censorship operation to the European Union for the
Speaker 5: time being.
Speaker 4: You know, when Democrats get powered here again, it will.
Speaker 2: Be moved back.
Speaker 4: You know, it will be expanded.
Speaker 5: But again, I think it's very important for people to
Speaker 5: also connect that to the fact that you know, China
Speaker 5: and Russia also have great Internet firewalls, right, so we
Speaker 5: have you know, the leftist parties across the globe or
Speaker 5: acting in concert with the world's biggest ittalitarians and tyrants,
Speaker 5: and people need to be aware of them, Like you said,
Speaker 5: using these kind of sympathetic things. Oh, we don't want
Speaker 5: to have someone have their hurt feelings on the internet.
Speaker 5: They use that as a bait for the switch that is,
Speaker 5: now you can't be a Christian in public, you.
Speaker 4: Know, now? I mean?
Speaker 5: And as I point on in the article, it's not
Speaker 5: just Christianity, right, pretty much every single major world religion
Speaker 5: has the same stance about human sexuality that Christianity does.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So these leftists, these pagan you know, agnostic people who
Speaker 5: believe that.
Speaker 4: We have to pretend that if you swap out.
Speaker 5: A man for a woman in a marriage, that they
Speaker 5: can do the same things in the bedroom together, which
Speaker 5: is obviously just physically untrue. This is a tiny liver
Speaker 5: of the global population who are really wanting to repress
Speaker 5: the vast majority seventy eighty ninety percent of the world
Speaker 5: does not agree with us. So it's anti democratic and
Speaker 5: it requires a massive amount of pressure government control of
Speaker 5: people's intimate lives in order to do so to enforce
Speaker 5: the system that they're trying to put in place.
Speaker 2: Joy Pullman is a happy wife and mother of six children.
Speaker 2: And let me plug your books here, real quick false
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Speaker 2: to adult and the best selling classic books for young children.
Speaker 2: But you plugged a book recently that you didn't write
Speaker 2: on the Federalists, which I think is perfect for this
Speaker 2: time of year, especially for you know, people going on
Speaker 2: road trips and stuff. You want to tell us about
Speaker 2: that real quick, we have we have a couple of minutes.
Speaker 5: Are we talking about Matt means Wonderful.
Speaker 4: American Road Trip Book?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do a lot.
Speaker 5: Of book reviews for the Federals because I'm one of
Speaker 5: the apparently few people left in the world who enjoys reading.
Speaker 5: So but but yeah, So that actually is one that
Speaker 5: I keep finding in different spots around my house.
Speaker 4: I think it's called the American Book of Fables.
Speaker 5: It's from you know, my friend Hillsdale, professor in the
Speaker 5: DC campus, Matthew.
Speaker 4: Mehan and the h A N. But it is, I mean, it's.
Speaker 5: Kind of hard to figure out how to describe it
Speaker 5: because it is such a blend of genres. I would
Speaker 5: say it's kind of a dressed up selection of American
Speaker 5: historical documents for children.
Speaker 4: So it's it's like, you know, so it's.
Speaker 5: A compendium of letters from George Washington, you know, speeches
Speaker 5: from john S Kennedy, you know, just all kind of
Speaker 5: all these bits of very core American history, but it
Speaker 5: is included, you know, with limericks, with poems, with funny stories.
Speaker 5: It has you know, this kind of it's woven together
Speaker 5: with a story about all of these animals from all
Speaker 5: across the United States collecting each other and going on
Speaker 5: an adventure to you know, basically rescue the manatees off
Speaker 5: the coast of Florida from a hurricane. So it's kind
Speaker 5: of like an American adventure book where you are going
Speaker 5: on a road trip, right and see, and there's beautiful paintings,
Speaker 5: oil paintings, watercolors, Pennanik.
Speaker 4: Sketches, and I mean it's a eight and.
Speaker 5: A half by eleven hardcover book like airboom quality gold
Speaker 5: foil on the cover, and.
Speaker 4: It's full of you know, stories.
Speaker 5: Poems, limericks about America, celebrating the country, showing children all
Speaker 5: the parts of America.
Speaker 4: Even if you're.
Speaker 5: Well traveled, you know, I've visited most of the states
Speaker 5: in the country. You know, you're going to learn tons
Speaker 5: of new things, and just it's designed for I think
Speaker 5: families to read together across the age ages, you know,
Speaker 5: so I've had, you know, my five year old who
Speaker 5: is beginning to read, he has been reading it, you know,
Speaker 5: with various family members. But my fifteen year old, who
Speaker 5: is a very good reader, and I also have enjoyed
Speaker 5: reading it. So it's just like a wonderful if you
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's such a great kind of commemorative
Speaker 5: one of the many things people are buying.
Speaker 4: This year for it to celebrate this. But it's really
Speaker 4: a timeless po book.
Speaker 2: I think the American Book of Fables and uh, Matt
Speaker 2: Mehan needs to send you an invoice or you need
Speaker 2: to send him an invoice for that plug. You didn't
Speaker 2: write it, but you really love it. Read it. Read
Speaker 2: it on the Federalist. Joy Pullman read her full review
Speaker 2: of it. Joy Pullman, of course, identifies as Native America,
Speaker 2: Native American lowercase N and gender natural. Love that, Uh,
Speaker 2: Joy Pullman, thanks so much for coming on Tony Kats Today.
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Speaker 2: So that Joe Biden character, remember him, his wife Jill
Speaker 2: goes on CBS News. And I'll tell you, of all
Speaker 2: the major legacy news networks NBC, CBS, and ABC, the
Speaker 2: one that seems to very tinyly going in a more
Speaker 2: respectable direction, that is, you know, somewhat closer to the center,
Speaker 2: somewhat closer to objectivity, that would be CBS. And it's
Speaker 2: probably because of Barry Weiss, who is not a hardcore
Speaker 2: right of center conservative, but she is an unorthodox left
Speaker 2: of center person. She's kind of like a Bill Maher,
Speaker 2: you know, non woke liberal, doesn't you know, tow the
Speaker 2: line all the time and takes off a lot of
Speaker 2: people on the left. And she's an independent journalist and
Speaker 2: she did a really good job with She used to
Speaker 2: write for the New York Times, and then she got
Speaker 2: fired because she again didn't till the line, started her
Speaker 2: own thing, made a fortune off of the free press,
Speaker 2: I think it was, and then gets hired by Cus
Speaker 2: to run all the CBS News department. Anyway, CBS Morning News.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if this is air yet in
Speaker 2: its entirety, but they tease this, this is Jill Biden
Speaker 2: talking about the debate where Joe Biden just completely flubbed.
Speaker 2: And here's actually the piece that CBS ran about this.
Speaker 13: Did you ever see signs that he was falling into
Speaker 13: cognitive decline?
Speaker 4: No? No.
Speaker 14: In a newly released clip from Sunday Morning, former First
Speaker 14: Lady Joe Biden pushed back on claims that her husband's
Speaker 14: mental acuity began to fade during his time in office.
Speaker 13: People were saying he wasn't the same Joe Biden. Well,
Speaker 13: I don't think that's true. He was the essence of
Speaker 13: the same Joe Biden. But yeah, he was slowing down,
Speaker 13: he was getting older.
Speaker 14: But some who spent time with the former president have
Speaker 14: argued it was more than that. The actor George Clooney,
Speaker 14: who co hosted an LA fundraiser for Biden, said he
Speaker 14: was the same man we all witnessed at the debate
Speaker 14: in June of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 10: Dealing with everything we have to do with.
Speaker 9: If we finally beat medicare.
Speaker 14: Special counsel Robert Kerr, who interviewed Biden at length, described
Speaker 14: him as an elderly man with.
Speaker 2: A poor memory.
Speaker 14: Even Biden's vice president, Kamala Harris said in retrospect that
Speaker 14: it was reckless for him to seek a second term
Speaker 14: given his age and health.
Speaker 2: Joh you did such a great job.
Speaker 14: And While Jill Biden praised her husband's debate performance at
Speaker 14: the time, she now admits she was worried that night
Speaker 14: that something was seriously wrong.
Speaker 13: As I watched it, I thought, oh my god, he's
Speaker 13: having a stroke, and it scared me to death.
Speaker 14: In the end, the pressure from Democrats was so intense
Speaker 14: that Biden dropped his bid for reelection and handed.
Speaker 2: The reins to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 14: That sequence of events is still a source of debate
Speaker 14: within the party even as it prepares for the next
Speaker 14: presidential election in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Tony fool Yeah, when we're going to get to that
Speaker 2: in a second. The you know autopsy that the DNC
Speaker 2: kind of did about twenty twenty four, and I'm glad
Speaker 2: that they flubbed that too, because that doesn't spell well
Speaker 2: for their you know, prospects in a couple of years.
Speaker 2: But do you know what Jill Biden did, Doctor Jill
Speaker 2: Biden right after she supposedly apparently thought her husband was
Speaker 2: having a stroke on National TV, International TV. The world
Speaker 2: the world was watching that debate. That was the most
Speaker 2: consequential presidential debate honestly since probably Nixon Kennedy, right the
Speaker 2: very first one on TV. They say that debate alone,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of sealed the deal for JFK, even
Speaker 2: though Nixon really won it because Chicago and Texas cheated.
Speaker 2: Different segment, What did she do when she thought her
Speaker 2: husband was having a stroke on State Did she bring
Speaker 2: him to the hospital. Did she say, Hey, Joe, we
Speaker 2: gotta go home. Let's go back to the White House
Speaker 2: and just chill. No, she took him to waffle house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: waffle house, in the words of Joe Biden, not a joke. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she took him to waffle house right off that I mean,
Speaker 2: like for a campaign stop to see how how you know,
Speaker 2: folks see that Joe Biden was She didn't get a stroke.
Speaker 2: She's saying that now to kind of, you know, put
Speaker 2: across this sympathy thing for good old uncle Joe. You know,
Speaker 2: the way that CBS did this story again is just
Speaker 2: a teeny tiny bit better than that smug, condescending jerk
Speaker 2: in so many ways the NBC guy that we played
Speaker 2: earlier of the interviewing Spencer Pratt, This at least somewhat
Speaker 2: is looking back and making the left of center side
Speaker 2: of the political specru look bad. But they still have
Speaker 2: a long way to go. They still have a really
Speaker 2: long way to go, because what they kind of did
Speaker 2: here was make Kamala Harris seem spart in comparison to
Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Kamala Harris is not out of the question
Speaker 2: that she's going to run for president in a year
Speaker 2: and a half. So the you know, media establishment, legacy.
Speaker 15: Media They're not going to put it out there or
Speaker 15: push the narrative that she is an idiot and she
Speaker 15: can't string two sentences coherently together.
Speaker 2: They're going to make you know, she's kind of wise.
Speaker 2: So she thought it was sort of reckless that he
Speaker 2: decided to continue on. Yeah, rich Lowery writes in The
Speaker 2: National Review, by the way, about this DNC autopsy, and
Speaker 2: it's he's he's on the spot in so many ways
Speaker 2: about it. But what do you have to understand is
Speaker 2: that the DNC is not going to naval gaze and
Speaker 2: tell you how badly they blew it there. Everything they do.
Speaker 2: Every leftist's ultimate goal is more power. There's nothing more
Speaker 2: important in the world on this planet than leftists having
Speaker 2: more power, according to them, and people disagree with them
Speaker 2: having less power. So even releasing this is a calculated
Speaker 2: way to make them somehow look good for twenty twenty
Speaker 2: eight and even twenty twenty six this year, rich Lowery
Speaker 2: National Review. The DNC Autopsy is a thoroughly unimpressive, unfinished
Speaker 2: document that says more about the low state of the
Speaker 2: Democrat Party than any of its analysis does. The Democrats
Speaker 2: could not complete their turn paper, but handed it in
Speaker 2: any way, because too many people were wondering what had
Speaker 2: become of it. Under pressure, the DNC finally released its
Speaker 2: autopsy of the twenty twenty four election after rampant speculation
Speaker 2: about what it contained and why it had not yet
Speaker 2: been made public. Did it include references to Gaza or
Speaker 2: didn't it? Why or why not? What revelations? What explosive
Speaker 2: revelations were being kept from us? It turns out that
Speaker 2: the autopsy is a thoroughly unimpressive, unfinished document that, in
Speaker 2: the sheer incompetence of its drafting and handling, says more
Speaker 2: about the low state of the current Democrat Party than
Speaker 2: any of its analysis does. The DNC chairman Ken Martin
Speaker 2: maintains that he delayed so long because he didn't want
Speaker 2: to create a distraction by releasing a poorly done report,
Speaker 2: which sounds like a typical Washington excuse for hiding something,
Speaker 2: except it wasn't. Once everyone saw the report, they realized
Speaker 2: Martin was right about the embarrassingly poor handiwork of its
Speaker 2: own outfit at the start. The autopsy contains a disclaimer
Speaker 2: that the DNC was not provided with the underworry guiding sources, interviews,
Speaker 2: or supporting data. For many of the assertions contained here
Speaker 2: in and therefore cannot independently verify the claims prevented. Then,
Speaker 2: throughout the document there are hostile annotations casting doubt on
Speaker 2: its claims, and the report does not have a conclusion
Speaker 2: the Democrats would have been better off going with chat GPT.
Speaker 2: That said, the report acknowledges that Democrats are out of
Speaker 2: touch and too dependent on the Republicans poor making poor
Speaker 2: candidate choices, something the GOP may be about to do
Speaker 2: again in its Senate Texas primary. Yet he wrote this
Speaker 2: right before the Senate Texas I don't know. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: I think ten Ken Paxton winning is good. He's going
Speaker 2: to win any way over this, Tella Rico guy and
Speaker 2: the Democrats are going to spend a ton of money
Speaker 2: in a losing casts, hundreds of millions of dollars in
Speaker 2: a losing cause for a Senate race. But Rick Lowry
Speaker 2: disagrees anyway. The autopsy notes how they then add hitting
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris on trans issues was devastating an unanswerable humph
Speaker 2: that shows some actual intelligence. It recognizes that Harris did
Speaker 2: not do enough to separate from Biden and make an
Speaker 2: affirmative case for herself rather than relying on voters supposedly
Speaker 2: considering Trump unacceptable. On the other hand, it fails to
Speaker 2: grapple with the issue of inflation and immigration, except to
Speaker 2: complain about Harris being given a role with some responsibility
Speaker 2: over the border. They complained about her getting that responsibility.
Speaker 2: These are the two biggest substantive issues in the election.
Speaker 2: While the autopsy also whiffs on Biden's age and his
Speaker 2: catastrophic poor judgment in trying to run for re election,
Speaker 2: it does not mention Gaza bitterly disappointing the anti Israel left.
Speaker 2: Yet our expectations for such documents should not be very high.
Speaker 2: What was the report going to say? The Democrats disgrace
Speaker 2: themselves by pretending that Biden was fit for a second term.
Speaker 2: It only shifted course when he got exposed in the
Speaker 2: first debate, and they then had no alternative but to
Speaker 2: turn to a charmless non entity as a last minute substitute.
Speaker 2: The history of party retrospectives like this is not good.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump won the presidency in twenty sixteen by taking
Speaker 2: the recommendations of the geop autopsy after its twenty twelve
Speaker 2: election defeat, and often doing the opposite in substance and tone.
Speaker 2: Democrats may be rudderless and increasingly extreme, but that does
Speaker 2: not mean they won't have a good election night this
Speaker 2: coming November. Usually, a party that has just lost the
Speaker 2: White House rises or fails in the midterms, or falls
Speaker 2: in the midterm based on the incumbent president's job approval
Speaker 2: rating rather than its own political creativity or inherent appeal.
Speaker 2: As we're retaking the White House, that typically depends on
Speaker 2: nominating someone who is charismatic and fresh, who has an
Speaker 2: unexpected approach to politics, and who develops a new coalition.
Speaker 2: I think Barack Obama in two thousand and eight or
Speaker 2: Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. None of this comes about
Speaker 2: by having a political strategist talk to a bunch of
Speaker 2: people about the immediate past election and write along report
Speaker 2: about it. Needless to say, Democrats should be grateful that
Speaker 2: the stakes of their autopsy are so low, Otherwise they
Speaker 2: would have had to endeavor to actually finish it and
Speaker 2: grapple with truths about the twenty twenty four election conveniently
Speaker 2: passed over in the just released document. It's one of
Speaker 2: the things that you can rich lowry. By the way,
Speaker 2: in National Reviews It's one of the things you can
Speaker 2: count on by the left. They have very very little
Speaker 2: self awareness and don't like being told that they were wrong.
Speaker 2: We will be right back on Tony Katz today. I
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Speaker 2: And the second hour we're going to open up the
Speaker 2: phone lines. Yeah, that's right. I want your opinion on
Speaker 2: data centers. Data centers, however you say data? Are you
Speaker 2: pro them near you? Are you ANTSI them? It is?
Speaker 2: It sounds like a boring topic. It ain't. Everyone I
Speaker 2: talked to has an opinion about data centers. They don't
Speaker 2: want them near them, especially if they live near farms
Speaker 2: like we do. Or they do absolutely want them for
Speaker 2: jobs for US beeding China in the race, or they
Speaker 2: don't want them because they have environmental concerns, water concerns,
Speaker 2: or they do want them because they love technology and AI.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know everyone has strong opinions
Speaker 2: about them, and it is not a cut and dry
Speaker 2: right issue. So I got a hard lefties and hard
Speaker 2: right e's who were against them, and vice versa. That's
Speaker 2: coming up in the next hour of Tony Kats today,
Speaker 2: and the number to call to weigh in is three
Speaker 2: point two six four three eighty seven hundred. But one
Speaker 2: last thing I want to say about twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: The reason that Kamala Harris lost to Donald Trump wasn't
Speaker 2: because necessarily Joe Biden got out too late. It wasn't
Speaker 2: even because of inflation and the economy. You know why
Speaker 2: it was. It was because of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump had four years of experience already being president.
Speaker 2: People look back on that and said, you know what,
Speaker 2: those were some pretty good years twenty sixteen to twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: We want him back. He has the competence and the
Speaker 2: leadership to do it, so we're gonna give him a second.
Speaker 2: And then they looked at her if they didn't believe that,
Speaker 2: where they were kind of hemming and on, because remember
Speaker 2: you only get two choices for president basically, And they
Speaker 2: looked at her and they said, my gosh, this woman
Speaker 2: is an idiot. She can't string two sentences together. She
Speaker 2: can't even answer the question why she wants to be president.
Speaker 2: She's gonna have her finger on the button. She's gonna
Speaker 2: be in control of the most powerful military on the planet.
Speaker 2: She's going to be in control of our borders. She's
Speaker 2: gonna be in control in many ways of our economy. No,
Speaker 2: thank you, she ain't got it. Trump won far and
Speaker 2: square both the popular vote and the electoral College vote.
Speaker 2: I remember three coming up after this, Don't Go Anywhere.
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Speaker 2: demand listening and video and all the Yeah, I do
Speaker 2: it all. I listened to it all. It's great, but
Speaker 2: I still listen to a real radio like you do.
Speaker 2: I mean I did it myself for fifteen years. Loved it,
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Speaker 2: to open up the phone lines here three one seven
Speaker 2: six four three eighty seven hundred. Three one seven six
Speaker 2: four three eighty seven hundred. The question is why we
Speaker 2: while we await some breaking news, perhaps about President Trump
Speaker 2: and Iran, is data centers. Are you for them or
Speaker 2: against them? And the reason I asked that question is
Speaker 2: because every single person I've talked with who follows the news,
Speaker 2: follows politics, local, state, regional, national, at all, has an
Speaker 2: opinion about it, and uh, it's something that affects us all. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it doesn't. If you had told me five years ago
Speaker 2: that the big issue in twenty twenty six was going
Speaker 2: to be data centers, I'd say center for what? Data? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Computer stuff?
Speaker 7: For?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's all about and all that. And to kind
Speaker 2: of break it down in this I will freely admit
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little meta here. I typed it into grock.
Speaker 2: What are the pro and con arguments of data centers.
Speaker 2: You ready, and by the way, we are going to
Speaker 2: have you on the show. Yes, you listening to this
Speaker 2: right now? Three one, seven, six four, three eighty seven hundred.
Speaker 2: Are you pro data centers or anti data centers? Here's
Speaker 2: the pro argument economic growth and jobs. Number one, data
Speaker 2: centers drive massive investment, tax revenue, and employment. They generate
Speaker 2: billions in property taxes. For example, single large facility can
Speaker 2: contribute tens of millions annually, support construction booms, and create
Speaker 2: indirect and induced jobs across supply chains. Estimates suggest each
Speaker 2: data center job supports six plus others in the broader economy, states,
Speaker 2: and localities see GDP boosts, with the sector contributing hundreds
Speaker 2: of billions nationally. Proponents argue this is vital for rural
Speaker 2: revitalization and competing with China in AI and tech. All right,
Speaker 2: so that's a number one pro argument. Number two pro
Speaker 2: argument for data centers national security and technological leadership. Building
Speaker 2: more data centers keeps the United States at the forefront
Speaker 2: of AI, cloud computing, and digital infrastructure. This strengthens military
Speaker 2: intelligence capabilities, innovation in medicine, manufacturing, autonomous systems, and economic resilience.
Speaker 2: Delaying or restricting them, risks seeding ground to adversaries, framed
Speaker 2: as a build baby, build imperative for American dominance. That's
Speaker 2: argument number two pro data centers. Number three infrastructure modernization
Speaker 2: and energy innovation. Data centers incentivize grid updates, new power
Speaker 2: plans including gas, nuclear and renewables, and efficiency tech. They
Speaker 2: can act as flexible loads for grid stability. Supporters note
Speaker 2: that in places like northern Virginia, where these data centers
Speaker 2: are I think the highest contronration in the world, residential
Speaker 2: rates remain competitive despite growth and innovations that are cooling
Speaker 2: mitigate impacts. Opposing them is seen as anti progress, ninbiism,
Speaker 2: not in my backyardism, or ludite resistance to the future economy.
Speaker 2: And finally, the fourth pro data center argument political framing.
Speaker 2: It appeals to fiscal conservatives tax based expansion, and moderate
Speaker 2: democrats focused on high wage tech jobs and global leadership.
Speaker 2: Tax incentives are defended as smart industrial policy. All so,
Speaker 2: those are four strong arguments for data centers. Do you
Speaker 2: agree with any of them three one two six four
Speaker 2: to three eighty seven hundred or disagree with them? Three
Speaker 2: one two sixty four three eighty seven hundred. Here are
Speaker 2: three one seven sorry three one seven six four three
Speaker 2: eighty seven hundred. My Illinois bias is showing three one
Speaker 2: seven sixty four three eighty seven hundred is the number.
Speaker 2: Here are the anti data seven data center arguments. Now,
Speaker 2: these anti arguments are from fiscal conservatives weary of government subsidies, environmentalists,
Speaker 2: local residents, populists on both sides, and affordability advocates. Number
Speaker 2: one anti data center argument energy costs and grid strain.
Speaker 2: Data centers are extremely power hungry. One hyper scale AI
Speaker 2: facility can match the demand of one hundred thousand homes
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand plus homes with projections of them consuming
Speaker 2: six to twelve percent of US electricity by twenty twenty
Speaker 2: eight twenty thirty, Wow, six to twelve percent of all
Speaker 2: US electricity could be consumed by data centers in two years.
Speaker 2: This drives up wholesale and residential rates, forces reliance on
Speaker 2: fossil fuels, natural gas, call backups and risks, blackouts or
Speaker 2: delayed upgrades. Critics highlight billions in rate hikes and call
Speaker 2: it corporate welfare, where everyday Americans subsidize big tech. Number
Speaker 2: two argument against data centers environmental and resource impacts. Massive
Speaker 2: water use for cooling billions of gallons annually equivalent to
Speaker 2: millions of households, higher carbon emissions. Data centers often have
Speaker 2: above average intensity due to fossil resilient or fossil reliance, noise,
Speaker 2: land use, and pollution slash healthcare costs estimated at twenty
Speaker 2: five billion a year in one analysis. This conflicts with
Speaker 2: climate goals and burden water scarce areas. I no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: and burdens water scarce areas. Opponents frame it as greenwashing
Speaker 2: tech giants profiting while externalizing costs. Number three argument against
Speaker 2: data centers limited local benefits and corporate giveaways. Many offer
Speaker 2: few permanent high skills jobs dozens per facility versus massive
Speaker 2: construction spikes. Yeah, these are not you know, giant warehouses
Speaker 2: that have hundreds or thousands even some jobs. Now we're
Speaker 2: talking about dozens of jobs. But the argument which you
Speaker 2: heard in the pro side is that each of those jobs,
Speaker 2: you know, multiply six other jobs in the economy. They
Speaker 2: say so, yeah, they're But the argument against few permanent
Speaker 2: high skill jobs it depresses property values for neighborhoods and
Speaker 2: receive and receive huge tax abatements that strain local budgets.
Speaker 2: Studies show net job effects near zero in some areas.
Speaker 2: Benefits flow to distant shareholders while communities get infrastructure costs
Speaker 2: and quality of life hits. Public polls show strong opposition
Speaker 2: seventy percent against local AI data centers. That's huge and
Speaker 2: last one. Political framing bipartisan appeal. Democrats progressive emphasize environment
Speaker 2: equity and anti monopoly, anti monopoly billionaire subsidies. Conservatives populous stress,
Speaker 2: physcal responsibility, energy reliability for families, sovereignty over local land,
Speaker 2: and skepticism of unchecked tech and AI power. It fuels
Speaker 2: moratorium calls, referenda, and election issues around affordability. So there
Speaker 2: you go. Three one seven and six four three eighty
Speaker 2: seven one hundred. That's the anti anti data center argument
Speaker 2: and the pro and it said. Data center arguments are
Speaker 2: often emphasized by pro growth conservatives, business oriented democrats, tech advocates,
Speaker 2: and those prioritizing national competitiveness. What do you think, are
Speaker 2: you pro data center or anti data center? Actually, we
Speaker 2: do have a couple of calls on online three one
Speaker 2: seven six four to three eighty seven hundred. We will
Speaker 2: get to them. On the other side of this break
Speaker 2: that says Tony kats today. I am Mike Coolidge in
Speaker 2: for Tony Cooliage. Spell with a K, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: We are back on Tony Katz today. Little Urge over carrier,
Speaker 2: will urge over kill for you and the person sitting
Speaker 2: next to you. I'm Mike Coolidge in for Tony. Before
Speaker 2: the break, we were talking about data centers pro or
Speaker 2: ANTI three one seven six four three eighty seven hundred
Speaker 2: is the number to call in Tom from the South
Speaker 2: side of Indianapolis. What say you, my friend?
Speaker 3: Hey? What say me? Good afternoon? Mike. You're doing pretty
Speaker 3: good job. You're not Tony. But then again, a lot
Speaker 3: of days Tony smuts Tony.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that quick education.
Speaker 3: Here. We're Hoosiers. If I was going for a sandwich
Speaker 3: today for Lynch. We love our tenderloins here and Tony
Speaker 3: Studios is of Carmel, Indiana. Okay, now that we got
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 2: Of yes, wait wait wait before you get into the
Speaker 2: h Yeah, no, tenderloin so delicious pork tenderloin sandwiches.
Speaker 3: You're talking about deep probably the size of Hope caps.
Speaker 3: This is a big lksc here in Indiana. Hey, come
Speaker 3: over and have a few.
Speaker 2: I'm my mouth is watering as we speak. Okay, So
Speaker 2: what's your opinion Tom on data centers?
Speaker 3: Okay, comment following. I'm Auntie against them because of the infrastructure,
Speaker 3: what have you. There was one proposed township just of
Speaker 3: the one we live here in Marion County, and I
Speaker 3: was against it because our waterlines and our electric clients
Speaker 3: would go to that thing, and they had no contingency
Speaker 3: whatsoever to handle the increased need on either one of them.
Speaker 2: So that's by the.
Speaker 3: Way, the land they will use it can be used
Speaker 3: for something else. We have a problem with these things,
Speaker 3: or our own worse enemy. They're saying that maybe these
Speaker 3: would be obsolete in five years, but we go ahead
Speaker 3: and keep creating data on our phones, our computers and
Speaker 3: all this their stuff, and there's got to be someplace
Speaker 3: to store it. It's like the situation of us creating garbage,
Speaker 3: but we don't want garbage, ton't buy us. We can't win, Mike,
Speaker 3: we can't win.
Speaker 2: I agree with what you're saying, and it's my answer
Speaker 2: or what I'm getting closer to the conclusion on is
Speaker 2: and I consider myself kind of binary, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't consider myself a fence sitter, but in this case,
Speaker 2: I am pro data centers. I just don't want them
Speaker 2: in farmland. I mean, we're not that far away from
Speaker 2: you in in Illinois. The soil in Indiana is very
Speaker 2: similar to Illinois as it is in Iowa. It's some
Speaker 2: of the best in the world. And there's a reason
Speaker 2: that we have farmland here and every data center eats
Speaker 2: up beautiful you know, valuable farmland that you can't get back.
Speaker 2: So that's one of my biggest, biggest arguments against it.
Speaker 2: But I do think that they can go in other areas,
Speaker 2: which I'll get to in second here. But Tom, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for calling in. We have thank you
Speaker 2: so much. We have Joe from Elkhart who is for
Speaker 2: data centers as I understand it, Go ahead.
Speaker 12: Joe, and I'm four data centers but with parameters around it.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's er up to.
Speaker 12: Elon muss idea about putting data centers in outer space.
Speaker 12: Basically there's self contained units with regard to energy and
Speaker 12: not taking our resources and getting the stuff we did,
Speaker 12: especially with national security. That's my big issue.
Speaker 2: That is a great point and I far be it
Speaker 2: from me to give Elon Musk advice about space. But
Speaker 2: the only thing I wonder about because I keep hearing
Speaker 2: that we need water, water, water, water. It's all about
Speaker 2: water to cool these computers, because that's literally what they are.
Speaker 2: There's no water in space, but in.
Speaker 12: Outer space as a vacuum, the cooling issue goes away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. You know what else I've heard is,
Speaker 2: and this, to me is the best answer to this
Speaker 2: is are brown fields and former industrial sites places where
Speaker 2: there used to be factories and power plants and auto
Speaker 2: plants that don't exist anymore or they shut them down.
Speaker 2: One of those areas are already zoned for you know,
Speaker 2: heavy use. They have existing infrastructure already. Uh, why not
Speaker 2: put them there so they're not taking up farmland.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you never both.
Speaker 12: We're going to have to have.
Speaker 4: We need.
Speaker 12: They're going to happen, we need them. We need to
Speaker 12: stay ahead of the competition, which is China.
Speaker 2: Joe. I appreciate you calling. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: calling into Tony Kats today. Three one seven six' four
Speaker 2: three eighty seven hundred is the number six three one
Speaker 2: seven six four three eighty seven. HUNDRED i Might coolidge
Speaker 2: in For Tony katz, TODAY i think there is a,
Speaker 2: uh there is an answer here to THESE i live
Speaker 2: in a rural area In, illinois AND i know that
Speaker 2: the discussions are happening as we speak about a datas
Speaker 2: they are actually in my Town, Rochelle. Illinois look coming,
Speaker 2: up look it up on a. Map so many of
Speaker 2: my friends are. Farmers i'm Like, Tony i'm not a farmer,
Speaker 2: myself BUT i know a lot of, them know and
Speaker 2: love a lot of, them AND i ask them their
Speaker 2: opinion and they give. Me not all of, them, obviously
Speaker 2: we all have individual opinions about, this which which is
Speaker 2: WHY i think it's such a great issue and really important.
Speaker 2: Issue is we want the pro growth aspects of. It
Speaker 2: we know that we're competing With. China we know That
Speaker 2: china is on the ropes in so many, ways both
Speaker 2: militarily and. Economically and we know that our friends In,
Speaker 2: taiwan WHICH i Know china has an interest in that
Speaker 2: the epicenter of so much of THIS ai technology in
Speaker 2: chips is In, taiwan and so we don't like also
Speaker 2: the fact That china seems to be buying up a
Speaker 2: lot of farmland here in The United states for these
Speaker 2: data centers here In, america which is really messed, up
Speaker 2: but so we need to create. THEM i just don't
Speaker 2: want them on. FARMLAND i think farming farmland should be for.
Speaker 2: Farms chris From Brown. County you are On Tony katz,
Speaker 2: Today Mike coolidge in For. Tony what say, you.
Speaker 10: Hey, Mike, Well i'm for data. CENTERS a lot of
Speaker 10: people don't know about how much water it, uses and
Speaker 10: they fall for the propaganda the to out there that
Speaker 10: is being pushed by our, competition so to. Speak did
Speaker 10: you know that a closed loop air cooling system is
Speaker 10: the type of technology they're using for these data centers
Speaker 10: and it only uses about a leader and a half
Speaker 10: of water per day a closed.
Speaker 2: Loop can you explain that to those of us who
Speaker 2: don't know what that.
Speaker 10: Is, well, essentially they have a water system that they
Speaker 10: PUT i think it's about one and a Half olympic
Speaker 10: size pool worth of water into and it's put into
Speaker 10: a closed loop so that you don't require any more
Speaker 10: water being put into it except for evaporation. Replacement and
Speaker 10: that evaporation replacement is only about a liter and a
Speaker 10: half of water per, day and the rest of it
Speaker 10: is air.
Speaker 9: Cooled that makes.
Speaker 2: Sense that makes sense to.
Speaker 10: Me, yeah so that's the fear of using thousands and
Speaker 10: thousands of gallons of water is completely misplaced and is
Speaker 10: very likely. Propaganda what do you.
Speaker 2: Think about eating up valuable? Farmland are you open to
Speaker 2: them being in locations that aren't?
Speaker 10: Farms i'm with you one hundred percent on the farm.
Speaker 10: LAND i mean food security is national? Security is it?
Speaker 2: Not, yes one hundred. Percent, SEE i think we're getting, Somewhere,
Speaker 2: Chris thanks so much for calling Into Tony katz. Today
Speaker 2: this is this is a hot. ISSUE i told, YOU
Speaker 2: i am not shocked that we have a lot of
Speaker 2: opinions about this because, Again, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa wisconsin very similar.
Speaker 2: States we have very similar issues. HERE i don't physically
Speaker 2: want a data center eating up super valuable farmland In, Rochelle,
Speaker 2: illinois WHERE i make my, home BUT i want data
Speaker 2: centers to be. Created now does that make me a
Speaker 2: not in my backyard? Guy maybe it. Does but to,
Speaker 2: me if there's industrial waste, land not industrial, waste industrial
Speaker 2: waste land that is available that's not doing, anything it
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to be in the big. Cities it
Speaker 2: could be in you, know mid size cities or the
Speaker 2: suburbs and. Stuff we know they're, there and, unfortunately, yes
Speaker 2: there's been some factory shutdowns of car manufacturers and other
Speaker 2: sort of. Factories those, places as we talked, about you,
Speaker 2: know they're already, graded they're already clear to got of,
Speaker 2: them already have the power infrastructure. There THAT'S i think
Speaker 2: where they should. Go and it was not my. Idea
Speaker 2: i've heard this from other. PEOPLE i THINK i think
Speaker 2: it's brilliant AND i think that might be the solution to.
Speaker 2: This all, right good, stuff this has Been we still
Speaker 2: have another half hour to. Go i'm not saying. BYE
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Speaker 2: are you excited about this week? END i hope you
Speaker 2: have awesome plans or just chill. Plans it's summertime kind
Speaker 2: of not, officially but, yeah you, know socially it. Is
Speaker 2: it's Post Memorial, day but it's not quite you, know
Speaker 2: fourth Of july. Yet, heck we're still In, may so
Speaker 2: we got the whole summer ahead of. Us i'm. Excited
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Speaker 2: have decided to listen to a fill in host On
Speaker 2: tony casts. Today, yeah that's, Me Mike. Coolidge follow me
Speaker 2: on X koo L i D. G WHEN i hosted
Speaker 2: my radio show for fifteen, years that's HOW i Met.
Speaker 2: Tony we would broadcast At seapack. Together he used to
Speaker 2: come on my, show he used to come on his
Speaker 2: The Republican National. Conventions tony's a. Blast he's into. Cigars
Speaker 2: don't know if you knew that little secret that no
Speaker 2: one probably. Knows he enjoys. Cigars but you, know we
Speaker 2: had a similar sort of. Philosophy obviously we're both, conservative
Speaker 2: but this kind of big city versus Rural america thing
Speaker 2: and flyover country versus the coastal. Elites but really it's
Speaker 2: not that. Simple it really goes down to big City
Speaker 2: america versus small Town. America and my show was specifically
Speaker 2: catered to small Town. AMERICANS i wasn't on In, chicago
Speaker 2: BUT i was on in basically every other city In,
Speaker 2: illinois and actually one or two In indiana and one In.
Speaker 2: Michigan But the brunt of my show was about, this you,
Speaker 2: know urban versus small Town america, divide which happened to
Speaker 2: coincide with. Politics, right those of us who live in
Speaker 2: non big City america are for the most Part, republicans
Speaker 2: conservatives read. Voters, now it's not the case obviously, everywhere
Speaker 2: but just statistically, wise it. Is there are very few.
Speaker 2: SEATS i don't think there's a single city over you,
Speaker 2: know three hundred or five hundred thousand population in The
Speaker 2: United states that regularly votes. READ i Think, Wichita. Kansas
Speaker 2: San diego was for, years probably a couple In. Texas
Speaker 2: but there's a new trend ABOUT us population. Growth according
Speaker 2: To Bill, King Real Clear, politics guess where things are,
Speaker 2: growing OR i should, say according to this, piece guess
Speaker 2: where things are no longer? Growing urban. Cores. Yeah each,
Speaker 2: year The Census bureau publishes population estimates for all municipalities
Speaker 2: in The United states with a population of twenty thousand
Speaker 2: or or. More last, week it released last year's, estimates
Speaker 2: reporting population changes for nearly two thousand. Municipalities according to
Speaker 2: The Census, bureau THE us population grew by one point
Speaker 2: eight million last, year mostly due to international. Immigration, yeah
Speaker 2: the borders, closed but there's still immigration. Coming in the
Speaker 2: TWELVE us cities with populations over one million grew by
Speaker 2: only fifty five thousand people last, year or about two
Speaker 2: tenths of one. Percent they contributed less than three percent
Speaker 2: of their total growth in The United states last. Year
Speaker 2: the diminutive contribution of urban cores to TOTAL us population
Speaker 2: growth is nothing new and has remained about three percent
Speaker 2: since twenty. Twenty according to some of the, data only
Speaker 2: about half of last year's total population growth occurred in
Speaker 2: cities with populations over twenty. Thousand, however that does not
Speaker 2: imply that half the growth occurred in rural. Areas although
Speaker 2: rural areas have experienced a net migration inflow since the,
Speaker 2: Pandemic the bulk of the growth has occurred in smaller
Speaker 2: cities and unincorporated, areas either adjacent to or in close
Speaker 2: proximity to larger. Cities the census data showed that the
Speaker 2: bulk of growth occurred in cities with populations between twenty
Speaker 2: five thousand and two hundred and fifty. Thousand, yeah this
Speaker 2: chart is pretty. Cool the highest group of, people as
Speaker 2: it laid out the average population. Change the highest block
Speaker 2: is city between fifty and one hundred thousand k for
Speaker 2: roughly the last ten thousand. Years the basic logic of
Speaker 2: cities has been rooted in the advantages of. Concentration as
Speaker 2: agriculture produced food, surpluses people no longer needed to live
Speaker 2: spread across the land to. Survive this trend was greatly
Speaker 2: accelerated in The United states during the first half of
Speaker 2: the twentieth century by the mechanization or the machinization of.
Speaker 2: AGRICULTURE i Know i'm saying that word. Wrong you know
Speaker 2: What i'm sorry trying to, say machinization. Machine living close
Speaker 2: together reduced transportation, costs improved, security facilitated, trade and allowed
Speaker 2: for specialization of. Labor cities became places where, merchants, craftsmen, rulers, soldiers,
Speaker 2: scholars and later industrial workers could interact more efficiently than
Speaker 2: if they were. Dispersed the density of people and activity
Speaker 2: also accelerated the exchange of, ideas, innovation and. Culture, however
Speaker 2: many of the traditional advantages of cities have begun to
Speaker 2: wane because the technologies that once made physical proximity essential
Speaker 2: have steadily reduced the importance of. Location, automobiles, highways air, travel,
Speaker 2: telecommunications and now high speed internet and remote work allow
Speaker 2: people to access, jobs, goods, services, entertainment and information without
Speaker 2: living in dense urban. Centers the pandemic accelerated the shift
Speaker 2: by demonstrating that many jobs could be performed remotely with
Speaker 2: surprisingly little loss in. Productivity millions of workers and employers
Speaker 2: discovered that daily proximity to downtown offices was often less
Speaker 2: necessary than previously. Assumed the modern economy increasingly rewards digital
Speaker 2: and knowledge based work that can often be performed from almost,
Speaker 2: anywhere weakening the historic link between economic opportunity and urban.
Speaker 2: Density the result has been a centrifugal force that has
Speaker 2: spun growth out from the urban cores to the suburbs
Speaker 2: and increasingly the ex. Serbs maybe where you live listening
Speaker 2: to this right? Now the long term trend probably favors continued,
Speaker 2: decentralization though not the complete abandonment of. Cities the underlying
Speaker 2: technological forces reducing the need for physical proximity will continue to.
Speaker 2: Advance remote and hybrid work technologies are, improving broadband access is,
Speaker 2: expanding and many businesses have adapted their operations around distributed.
Speaker 2: Workforces artificial intelligence and digital collaboration tools may further weaken
Speaker 2: the advantages of geographic concentration for many operate. Occupations at
Speaker 2: the same, time affordability and quality of life concerns remain significant,
Speaker 2: pressures pushing people and businesses. Outward most urban core cities
Speaker 2: also face aging, infrastructure fiscal, pressures and governance. Challenges he
Speaker 2: concludes that said cities are unlikely to disappear because they
Speaker 2: still retain important advantages in certain sectors and. Activities, innovation, finance,
Speaker 2: entertainment higher, education, medicine and entrepreneurial ecosystems still benefit from
Speaker 2: face to face interaction and dense professional. Networks large cities
Speaker 2: also offer cultural amenities and social opportunities that cannot be
Speaker 2: fully replicated. Online the more likely outcome is not the
Speaker 2: death of, cities but a gradual erosion of the dominance
Speaker 2: of the largest and most expensive urban, cores accompanied by
Speaker 2: growth in smaller, cities, suburbs, exerbs and lower cost metropolitan.
Speaker 2: Regions in that, sense the trend is less about the
Speaker 2: end of urbanization than about the weakening of the historic
Speaker 2: premium attached to urban. Density Bill king In Real Clear
Speaker 2: Politics that in a nutshell says that those of us
Speaker 2: who don't live in big cities are gaining. Influence, yeah that's,
Speaker 2: right we're the ones that are. Growing this is a great.
Speaker 2: Trend you, know it's not all. Political so much of
Speaker 2: it has to do with technology and you know The
Speaker 2: internet obviously and remote, work and you, know the pandemic
Speaker 2: had a lot AND i do mean a lot of negatives,
Speaker 2: obviously but there were some positives from the. Pandemic one
Speaker 2: of the positives, was, well, politically we got to see
Speaker 2: what far leftists do when you give them extreme, power
Speaker 2: and oh, men they lick their chops and rub their
Speaker 2: hands together and get excited when they realized all the
Speaker 2: power that they could, have the governors and mayors and you, know,
Speaker 2: yes even presidents could. Have during the, PANDEMIC i think you,
Speaker 2: know it happened during the very end Of trump's, administration
Speaker 2: and so many of us didn't know what the heck
Speaker 2: was going. ON i, mean, heck there was a ton
Speaker 2: were actually believed and agreed With Tony. FAUCI i mean
Speaker 2: early on when we first were hearing from, him when
Speaker 2: all of this stuff was, New it's, like, wait we
Speaker 2: want to shut down things for how? Long two three?
Speaker 2: Weeks that seems like a long. Time we didn't know
Speaker 2: it's going to, be, like you, know a year plus
Speaker 2: that so many things were shut. Down but that was
Speaker 2: one of the you, know positive, things is we got
Speaker 2: to see how crazy the left is when given extreme,
Speaker 2: power not that we didn't know that. Already the second positive,
Speaker 2: thing or a second positive THING i would, say is
Speaker 2: that we realized how not important it is to be
Speaker 2: in the office five days a week for those of
Speaker 2: us who work in office, jobs and so many things
Speaker 2: can be accomplished. Remotely and now here in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: SIX i, mean you, KNOW i hear so many young,
Speaker 2: people even my nieces and nephew who are in their
Speaker 2: mid twenties in late twenties, now talking about their jobs
Speaker 2: and you, know someone their entry, level but the step
Speaker 2: beyond entry. Level now in your mid to late, twenties you,
Speaker 2: know some of them have gotten promotions, already and you
Speaker 2: know they're moving on maybe to their second. Job AND
Speaker 2: i asked, them you, know how many days a week
Speaker 2: are going in some of. THEM i have wondiece who
Speaker 2: doesn't is fully remote. Already she's an, accountant one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: Remote and at First i'm, like you, know you're kind
Speaker 2: of missing out on, that you, know talk over the
Speaker 2: water cooler and going out to going with your friends and,
Speaker 2: hey let's go out for drink after, works thing that
Speaker 2: people in the twenties tend to. Do and she, says,
Speaker 2: yeah you, KNOW i did get that a little, bit
Speaker 2: AND i built those relationships and. Friendships but we're kind
Speaker 2: of figuring out our own thing that we hand it
Speaker 2: out of the people's, houses we communicate. Online you, know
Speaker 2: there's there's Some in many, ways it shifted society into
Speaker 2: realizing that a lot of the stuff we do as
Speaker 2: a society and its occupations can be done. Remotely and
Speaker 2: so so those people who live in cities where everything's,
Speaker 2: concentrated and obviously you can can concentrate political power in
Speaker 2: cities not as important as it used to. Be that's
Speaker 2: a good thing for those of us who live in
Speaker 2: rural and uh not big City. America what we have
Speaker 2: to do is make sure that those you, know middle
Speaker 2: aged liberals who want to move out to uh where we,
Speaker 2: live they don't bring their politics with. Them that's that's the,
Speaker 2: Key that's that's the. Rub all, right we will be
Speaker 2: right back On Tony katz. TODAY i Am Mike coolidge
Speaker 2: in For. Tony don't go. Anywhere, yes, yes, Yes Mike
Speaker 2: coolidge in For Tony kats On Tony katz. Today, man
Speaker 2: this has been fun and man three hours folew by
Speaker 2: AND i thank you so much for. Listening uh we
Speaker 2: even with this thought the presidency and the candidacy for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Eight you, know it is now the, summertime
Speaker 2: which means fall is right around the, corner which, means you,
Speaker 2: know the. Midterms as soon as you're, done presidential races
Speaker 2: are going to. Start you're gonna have, Announcements you're gonna
Speaker 2: have you BUT i Mean President trump obviously can't run
Speaker 2: for another, Election so who's it going to. Be the
Speaker 2: money has been ON. Jd Vance AND i am as
Speaker 2: big a supporter of Jd vance as you will find
Speaker 2: talking about him as a politician in don't forget about
Speaker 2: president for a. Second he is. Awesome i've met. HIM
Speaker 2: i read his book when it came. Out you, Know Hillbilly.
Speaker 2: ELOGY i just think he's one of the sharpest minds
Speaker 2: in all of. Politics and he is the only PERSON
Speaker 2: i Think i've ever met and listened to AFTER i
Speaker 2: met them in person and after consuming what they were.
Speaker 2: Doing this is back During Hillbilly elogy. TIME i, said
Speaker 2: this guy's gonna be president, someday AND i still think
Speaker 2: he's going to be presid in it. Someday could he
Speaker 2: and will he run for president in twenty twenty. Eight it's,
Speaker 2: possible it's, PROBABLY i would say it's more probable than.
Speaker 2: Not but if he, doesn't and there are reasons why he,
Speaker 2: wouldn't he's got another child on the. Way he's a young.
Speaker 2: Guy he's barely forty one years. OLD i think he's
Speaker 2: got what many say, is you, know some of the
Speaker 2: most wonderful time of your life is when you're a
Speaker 2: parent and you have you, know children and their kid,
Speaker 2: years you, know single digit, years and then. Teenager he's
Speaker 2: got another ten years of that at least he might
Speaker 2: he might bow out or not bow. Out just makes me, like,
Speaker 2: hey you know, What i'm going to take a break
Speaker 2: from politics or do some you, know private sector, stuff
Speaker 2: and let's check back at ten. Years he checks back
Speaker 2: in ten, years he'll be fifty one years. Old that's
Speaker 2: pretty darn young for being. President for running for, president,
Speaker 2: Well Marco rubio is goosh fifteen years older than. Him,
Speaker 2: least he has some of the highest approval ratings of
Speaker 2: any politician of either. Side extremely, likeable extremely, smart extremely.
Speaker 2: Experienced he's run for president, before and he's been a
Speaker 2: secretary Of state who everyone respects him. LIKES i, Mean
Speaker 2: rubio is the guy If vance decides not to. Run
Speaker 2: the other THING i get and here often is these
Speaker 2: two guys really like each. Other they're. Buds SO i
Speaker 2: don't see them necessarily running against them against each. OTHER i,
Speaker 2: MEAN i think it's gonna be either. Or Obviously vance,
Speaker 2: can't you, know remain vice. President he can't be vice
Speaker 2: president for sixteen. Years that would be a little, weird
Speaker 2: AND i you, know obviously that's never happened. Before but
Speaker 2: so you can't have A Rubyo advance. Ticket and so
Speaker 2: then who if it Is, rubio who would it? Be
Speaker 2: who would be THE? Vp there's some time to decide. That,
Speaker 2: honestly that's often not decided until the, summer right before the.
Speaker 2: Election so two years we might not know until that is.
Speaker 2: Picked But rubio Or, VANCE i think will be the
Speaker 2: next president of The United. States remember that as we
Speaker 2: talk In may at twenty twenty, six that is going
Speaker 2: to do. It for this broadcast Of Tony katz, TODAY
Speaker 2: i have been and will continue to Be Mike coolidge
Speaker 2: find me an act that's, double, like, hey have a great.
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