Episode 4611: Tony Katz Today Hour 2 - 05/29/26 (Mike Koolidge Guest Hosts)
Hour 2 Segment 1
While Tony is away, Mike Koolidge fills in! Mike starts the second hour of the show talking about the restriction of free speech in some European countries and how Christians cannot write about the Bible.
Hour 2 Segment 2
Mike is joined with Joy Pullman of The Federalist to talk about the use of Christian free speech in Finland.
Hour 2 Segment 3
Mike talks about Jill Biden saying she thought former President Joe Biden was having a stroke during his 2024 presidential debate.
Hour 2 Segment 4
Mike wraps up the second hour of the show talking about data centers. Mike also talks about how President Donald Trump was able to defeat Kamala Harris in 2024.
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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartbland and the Crossroads of America.
Speaker 2: It's Tony Cats today.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, our number two of Tony Katz Today.
Speaker 1: I am not Tony. I am Mike Coolidge filling in
Speaker 1: for Tony, and we're thrilled that you are continuing to
Speaker 1: listen even though I ain't Tony. Yeah, it's the end
Speaker 1: of the week. You are doing something fun. I hope
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Speaker 1: matter who's filling in form, you're going to listen. We
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And we have a great hour coming up
Speaker 1: and then another awesome hour after that. Joy Pullman from
Speaker 1: The Federalist is going to join us here in a
Speaker 1: bit talking about this crazy, crazy atmosphere really that exists
Speaker 1: in Europe about free speech. It's not just England, it's Finland,
Speaker 1: it's Germany. You know these quote unquote Western civilization countries,
Speaker 1: the whole concept of our God given right to freely
Speaker 1: express ourselves that governments should not ever inhibit. We have
Speaker 1: this great thing the United States called the Constitution, the
Speaker 1: Bill of Rights, laid it out, in fact, the very
Speaker 1: first one, Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom
Speaker 1: of expression. We have freedom of religion, freedom of assembly,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Paraphrasing it. But it's so important. The Constitution
Speaker 1: and the Bill of Rights don't give us the right
Speaker 1: we have to freely express ourselves. God gave us that.
Speaker 1: It's endowed by our creator. The Constitution just limits the
Speaker 1: United States government from restricting it. Well, the thing is,
Speaker 1: in some of these other countries, they don't have a
Speaker 1: constitution or a law that says that the government can't
Speaker 1: restrict free rights or freedom of speech. So what do
Speaker 1: they do. They restrict free speech. And it's a really
Speaker 1: really disturbing thing that's happening about banning Christians from writing
Speaker 1: about the Bible. And then on top of that, European
Speaker 1: authorities are trying to keep the world unaware that they're
Speaker 1: banning Christians from writing about the Bible. Yeah, a Protestant
Speaker 1: bishop and pastor's wife will appeal to the European Court
Speaker 1: of Human Rights the finished Supreme Court's recent ban on
Speaker 1: their speech affirming what the Bible says about human sexuality.
Speaker 1: The appeal could take years amid escalating Soviet like restrictions
Speaker 1: on free speech and religious expression across the continent that
Speaker 1: extend to Americans under European Internet censorship and its March decision,
Speaker 1: Finland's Supreme Court tried to dodge the reality that it's
Speaker 1: three to two conviction of Bishop Bishop Johanna Pojola and
Speaker 1: Member of Parliament Pavirasanan criminalizes speech stating Christian theology about sex.
Speaker 1: It did quit Rasanan of a charge for posting a
Speaker 1: Bible verse on x she noted in an in person
Speaker 1: exclusive interview with The Federalist, but then it convicted her
Speaker 1: under Finland's hate crime quote unquote law for writing and
Speaker 1: publishing a book discussing the central Christian teachings that men
Speaker 1: and women are different and sexually complimentary. God forbid figuravely speaking,
Speaker 1: you say that this is also the position of Orthodox
Speaker 1: Muslims and Jews, and global majorities of Buddhism and Hinduism.
Speaker 1: Joy Pullman wrote this piece, which I highly encourage you
Speaker 1: to read European author of banned book. It is Christianity itself.
Speaker 1: They are trying to censor. You can read that on
Speaker 1: The Federalist. She's going to dig into this a little
Speaker 1: bit deeper on the other side of this break. Trust me,
Speaker 1: you're not going to want to miss this. Joy Pullman
Speaker 1: from The Federalist. After this, on to Cats today. I
Speaker 1: am Mike Coolidge in for Tony. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: We are back on Tony Katz today. I am Mike
Speaker 1: Coolidge filling in for Tony on this beautiful Friday. We
Speaker 1: are living in the great state of Illinois, and our
Speaker 1: next guest, I believe lives in the state that this
Speaker 1: radio show is broadcasting from. Joy Pullman, executive editor at
Speaker 1: The Federalist. Welcome on to Tony Kats today.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Are you indeed in Indiana? In Indiana?
Speaker 2: I am yes.
Speaker 1: Well, we could get into Indiana politics and all of that,
Speaker 1: but I know that some of these broadcasts are outside
Speaker 1: of Indiana. And you wrote this fantastic piece last week
Speaker 1: in The Federalist about this crazy censorship, not just censorship
Speaker 1: but like criminality that is occurring in Finland, about these
Speaker 1: authors and this member of Parliament tell our listeners what
Speaker 1: this is about. We read some of it before the break,
Speaker 1: but this is nuts and seems to be a kind
Speaker 1: of trend across the pond in anti free speech stuff
Speaker 1: and in this case, anti Christian stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, I think your listeners have to understand that what
Speaker 2: is happening in Europe on the free speech and the
Speaker 2: Christian repression front is actually affecting Americans right now because
Speaker 2: the censorship controls that the European Union have put on
Speaker 2: social media companies worldwide. Social media companies such as Google, YouTube, Facebook,
Speaker 2: you know, all xes engage in litigation against them right
Speaker 2: now over this. They are right now controlling what you
Speaker 2: and I stay on the Internet and all of those forums,
Speaker 2: just as they had been under the lockdowns under COVID.
Speaker 2: So even though you know, the Biden administration is currently
Speaker 2: no longer in power and it's not running those through
Speaker 2: its apparatus in the United State, they are still having
Speaker 2: the same effects thanks to the European Union. And so
Speaker 2: this story is related to that I've been following for
Speaker 2: a very long time. A Christian grandmother, I mean, she's
Speaker 2: also a medical doctor. She's been a member of Parliament
Speaker 2: for some thirty parliament for some thirty years Interior Minister
Speaker 2: of her country, which places her over police. Her name
Speaker 2: is Pieve Rassman. But so she in twenty nineteen was
Speaker 2: basically brought up in charges, dragged him to the local
Speaker 2: police station for more than thirteen hours, interrogated because she
Speaker 2: posted a picture of a Bible verse on Twitter. She
Speaker 2: was arguing, so, Finland has a established state church that
Speaker 2: I really hesitate to call a church because it just
Speaker 2: does not believe in the Word of God anymore. I
Speaker 2: really kind of is a false church, I would say.
Speaker 2: And so she was, you know, arguing with them. They
Speaker 2: had sponsored a pride parade in Finland's largest city, and so,
Speaker 2: you know, so Paieve happens to also be the wife
Speaker 2: of a theology of you know, a pastor and a
Speaker 2: theology professor with a PhD. You know, so she is
Speaker 2: very Christian literate, and so she was saying to them, right, like,
Speaker 2: the sponsorship of a pride parade is at odds with
Speaker 2: our Christian faith in the Bible, clearly says so. And
Speaker 2: so long story short, that was kind of the beginning
Speaker 2: of it. But she now has had to appeal her
Speaker 2: case all the way to where it stands now to
Speaker 2: the European Court of Human Rights, which, as listeners probably
Speaker 2: Kadest is a very anti Christian, you know, very hostile venue.
Speaker 2: But her National Supreme Court convicted her of hate crimes
Speaker 2: under its War Crimes and you know, the Hatred for
Speaker 2: Minorities Act. It's free speech kind of denying sort of
Speaker 2: law when we have a lot of these also inside
Speaker 2: of the United States. And so she is a convicted
Speaker 2: criminal for publishing a booklet about what the Bible says
Speaker 2: about how men and women are different in marriage is
Speaker 2: God's design. So I mean, so for your listeners, I
Speaker 2: think this is just a regardless of whether you believe,
Speaker 2: you know, agree with her on the theology, whether you're
Speaker 2: a Christian, and just to literally the the you know,
Speaker 2: the states that the Finnish Supreme Court wants to have
Speaker 2: her book banned from the Internet and from print. You know,
Speaker 2: so you just think of the chilling implications of being
Speaker 2: unable to speak about your views about important social topics.
Speaker 2: She never does so in a hostile way. She expresses,
Speaker 2: you know that God loves and values all people and
Speaker 2: no matter the actions that they take. You know, that's
Speaker 2: a Christian view as well. You know. So she's not
Speaker 2: a hate manger out there staying cool things. She's a
Speaker 2: very gentle and kind woman, you know. But she is
Speaker 2: a criminal now because of what her speech has said,
Speaker 2: because she believes what the Bible says.
Speaker 1: It's insane and I think so many Americans take it
Speaker 1: for granted that. You know, we have this constitution, this
Speaker 1: Bill of Rights that prohibits our government from restricting free speech.
Speaker 1: But these countries in Europe don't have that. And when
Speaker 1: you don't have that restriction, I know England is certainly
Speaker 1: going through this. Germany has said that doesn't protect free speech,
Speaker 1: and in this case, I mean people are going to
Speaker 1: jail or very likely could go to jail. Sticking on
Speaker 1: this case for a second, do you are you hopeful
Speaker 1: at all that this appeal could go their way? Do you?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: You know, do they have advocates in Finland standing up
Speaker 1: for them, like who are pushing back against the government,
Speaker 1: or because of the restriction and free speech, people aren't
Speaker 1: able to freely assemble and communicate and get people together,
Speaker 1: Like how hopefully you with the outcome of this case.
Speaker 2: Well, I do think that, especially if you know important
Speaker 2: people in the US government, you know, prioritize this case
Speaker 2: and give it greater visibility. I know that they already
Speaker 2: you know, have been included in diplomatic communications, for example
Speaker 2: Payevi's case. And it's not just her, but also you know,
Speaker 2: the Christian, the Protestant bishop of a non state endorsed
Speaker 2: church in Finland, he has also been convicted as a
Speaker 2: criminal because he published the booklet that she wrote about
Speaker 2: talk saying what the Bible says, you know. So, so
Speaker 2: I do think with that the addition pressure, you know,
Speaker 2: pressure has been applied. Diplomatic efforts have been made from
Speaker 2: the United States. Many members of Congress, including Chip Roy
Speaker 2: in Texas, you know, have stood up and supported you know, publicly. Uh,
Speaker 2: the Department of State under Marco Rubio has publicly supported
Speaker 2: paiev in her in this trial. You know. So there
Speaker 2: are things that have been done. I think continuing to
Speaker 2: do that is helpful because I do think, you know,
Speaker 2: the public reputation of the of Europe really matters here,
Speaker 2: and I do think it's it's important, you know, for
Speaker 2: people to understand that, right Europe is very hostile and
Speaker 2: sees Russia as this big, bad, terrible you know guy.
Speaker 2: But there are more people in jail for speech crimes
Speaker 2: in England than there are currently in Russia. And again
Speaker 2: I'm not saying everything between the two countries, right, you know,
Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, you know, he's cut through a kind of guy, right,
Speaker 2: But the point being, you can't sit there and say
Speaker 2: that you have some kind of moral high ground, that
Speaker 2: you are assuring the human rights of your citizens, and
Speaker 2: that you're fighting Russia because it does it represses its citizens,
Speaker 2: and they are literally engaging in the same kind of
Speaker 2: repression against their own citizens that Russia is doing. You know.
Speaker 2: So I think those are some effective ways to be
Speaker 2: talking and thinking about this. And Americans do have to
Speaker 2: understand that all of these global matters absolutely do affect us.
Speaker 2: You know. When I you know, I saw Payev. She
Speaker 2: was here in Indiana receiving an honorary doctorate from a
Speaker 2: theological seminary a couple of I think about a week ago,
Speaker 2: maybe yeah, I think it was a week and you know,
Speaker 2: and so when I talked with her, she was, you know, underscoring.
Speaker 2: Audience members were asking her, you know, how could this
Speaker 2: come to the United States, And she says yes, because,
Speaker 2: as you probably know, Michael we have hate speech laws
Speaker 2: all across the United States. There are many SIPs with them.
Speaker 2: In fact, under Republican Governor Mike Pence, you know, we
Speaker 2: had had created special legal protections for queer people with
Speaker 2: the Riff, a whole debacle that he you know, basically
Speaker 2: talked tail and ran and our our legislature followed him.
Speaker 2: So all the way out here and read Indiana, right,
Speaker 2: we have laws that give special preferences to queer people
Speaker 2: that are vague and allow for the criminalization of Christianity.
Speaker 2: And again with the Supreme Court decision in Finland using
Speaker 2: the law very similar you know to the kind that
Speaker 2: we have in Indiana, that they're they're in Colorado, they're
Speaker 2: in California, they're Illinois, they're in New York, all across
Speaker 2: they have used it to basically make it, you know,
Speaker 2: quite legally questionable whether you can preach what the Bible
Speaker 2: says from a pulpit, whether you can have a Bible
Speaker 2: study where you talk about what the Bible says about
Speaker 2: how men and women are different. So that's the slippery
Speaker 2: slopes that these kinds of laws are on, and they
Speaker 2: are already inside the United States as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's such a little like incremental creep.
Speaker 1: You know, It's not there's no one out there saying
Speaker 1: let's get rid of the First Amendment. It's these little
Speaker 1: tiny things. It's almost like when when Twitter first started
Speaker 1: censoring people whole You can't call for the death of
Speaker 1: someone or the rape of someone. Okay, you're kicked off Twitter.
Speaker 1: Well then now you can't also, you know, say something
Speaker 1: that is negative or makes people uncomfortable, you know about
Speaker 1: LGBT whatever, So you're ban from Twitter. And then it
Speaker 1: was like anyone who wasn't spouting the leftist orthodoxy was
Speaker 1: getting banned from from Twitter. And then you couldn't even
Speaker 1: mention Hunter Biden's laptop. That's where where it eventually came to.
Speaker 1: And then of course Elon Musk bought it, changed it
Speaker 1: to X and the rest is history. But you we
Speaker 1: do get a glimpse on to this mindset when they
Speaker 1: get power, Like you mentioned, COVID was the extreme example
Speaker 1: of that. There are tons of people in the United
Speaker 1: States who look to Finland and the UK and Germany
Speaker 1: with a little jealousy. Problemly don't they Oh.
Speaker 2: They absolutely do. In effect. I mean so having followed
Speaker 2: the whole censorship issue, something that deeply continues to affect
Speaker 2: the Federalists where we were specifically targeted by the Biden
Speaker 2: administration and you know, some of these European organizations that
Speaker 2: want censorship, you know, put us on their hit list
Speaker 2: for destruction. You know, So followed all of that debate,
Speaker 2: and that is deeply tied into what's going on here.
Speaker 2: The global leftist movement does not you know, stop borders,
Speaker 2: and you know, Democrats in the United States absolutely are
Speaker 2: getting policy ideas from the European counterparts and basically coordinating
Speaker 2: with them, right to kind of move the entire Biden
Speaker 2: censorship operation to the European Union for the time being.
Speaker 2: You know, when Democrats get powered here again, it will
Speaker 2: be moved back. You know, it will be expanded. But again,
Speaker 2: I think it's very important for people to also connect
Speaker 2: that to the fact that you know, China and Russia
Speaker 2: also have great Internet firewalls, right, so we have you know,
Speaker 2: the leftist parties across the globe or acting in concert
Speaker 2: with the world's biggest oftalitarians and tyrants, and people need
Speaker 2: to be aware of them, Like you said, using these
Speaker 2: kind of sympathetic things, Oh, we don't want to have
Speaker 2: someone have their hurt feelings on the internet. They use
Speaker 2: that as a bait for the switch that is, now
Speaker 2: you can't be a Christian in public, you know, now?
Speaker 2: I mean? And as I point out in the article,
Speaker 2: it's not just Christianity, right, pretty much every single major
Speaker 2: world religion has the same stance about human sexuality that
Speaker 2: Christianity does. Right. So these left, these pagan you know,
Speaker 2: agnostic people who believe that we have to pretend that
Speaker 2: if you swap out a man for a woman and
Speaker 2: a marriage, that they can do the same things in
Speaker 2: the bedroom together, which is obviously just physically untrue. This
Speaker 2: is a tiny liver of the global population who are
Speaker 2: really wanting to repress the vast majority seventy eighty ninety
Speaker 2: percent of the world does not agree with us. So
Speaker 2: it's anti democratic and it requires a massive amount of
Speaker 2: pressure government control of people's intimate lives in order to
Speaker 2: just so to enforce the system that they're trying to
Speaker 2: put in place.
Speaker 1: Joy Pulman is a happy wife and mother of six children.
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Speaker 1: But you plugged a book recently that you didn't write
Speaker 1: on the Federalists, which I think is perfect for this
Speaker 1: time of year, especially for you know, people going on
Speaker 1: road trips and stuff. Do you want to you want
Speaker 1: to tell us about that? Real quick? We have we
Speaker 1: have a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: Are we talking about Matt means wonderful American road trip Books? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I do a lot of book reviews for the Federals
Speaker 2: because I'm one of the apparently few people left in
Speaker 2: the world who enjoys reading. So but but yeah, So
Speaker 2: that actually is one that I keep finding in different
Speaker 2: spots around my house. I think it's called the American
Speaker 2: Book of Fables. It's from you know, my friend Hillsdale,
Speaker 2: professor in the DC campus, Matthew Meehan and e h A. N.
Speaker 2: But it is, I mean, it's kind of hard to
Speaker 2: figure out how to describe it because it is such
Speaker 2: a blend of genres. I would say it's kind of
Speaker 2: a dressed up selection of American historical documents for children.
Speaker 2: So it's it's like, you know, so it's a compendium
Speaker 2: of letters from George Washington, you know, speeches from John S. Kennedy,
Speaker 2: you know, just all kind of all these bits of
Speaker 2: very core American history. But it is included, you know,
Speaker 2: with limericks, with poems, with funny stories. It has this
Speaker 2: kind of it's woven together with a story about all
Speaker 2: of these animals from all across the United States collecting
Speaker 2: each other and going on an adventure to you know,
Speaker 2: basically rescue the manatees off the coast of Florida from
Speaker 2: a hurricane. So it's kind of like an American adventure
Speaker 2: book where you are going on a road trip right
Speaker 2: and see, and there's beautiful paintings, oil paintings, watercolors, Pennanik sketches,
Speaker 2: and I mean it's a eight and a half by
Speaker 2: eleven hardcover book, like heirloom quality gold foil on the cover,
Speaker 2: and it's full of you know, stories, poems, limericks about America,
Speaker 2: celebrating the country, showing children all the parts of America.
Speaker 2: Even if you're well traveled, you know, I've visited most
Speaker 2: of the states in the country. You know, you're going
Speaker 2: to learn tons of new things and just it's designed
Speaker 2: for I think families to read together across the age ages.
Speaker 2: You know, so I've had you know, my five year
Speaker 2: old who is beginning to read, he has been reading
Speaker 2: it well, you know, with various family members. But my
Speaker 2: fifteen year old, who is a very good reader, and
Speaker 2: I also have enjoyed reading it. So it's just like
Speaker 2: a wonderful if you I mean, it's just it's such
Speaker 2: a great kind of commemorative one of the many things
Speaker 2: people are buying this year for it to celebrate this.
Speaker 2: But it's really a timeless book.
Speaker 1: I think the American Book of Fables and uh, Matt
Speaker 1: Mehan needs to send you an invoice or you need
Speaker 1: to send him an invoice for that plug. You didn't
Speaker 1: write it, but you really love it. Read it. Read
Speaker 1: it on the Federalist. Joy Pullman read her full review
Speaker 1: of it. Joy Pullman, of course identifies as native a
Speaker 1: Native American lowercase N and gender natural. Love that. Uh,
Speaker 1: Joy Pullman, thanks so much for coming on Tony Kats Today.
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Speaker 1: to politics, so that Joe Biden character, remember him, his
Speaker 1: wife Jill goes on CBS News. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: of all the major legacy news networks NBC, CBS, and ABC,
Speaker 1: the one that seems to very tinly going in a
Speaker 1: more respectable direction, that is, you know, somewhat closer to
Speaker 1: the center, somewhat closer to objectivity, that would be CBS.
Speaker 1: And it's probably because of Barry Weiss, who is not
Speaker 1: a hardcore right of center conservative, but she is an
Speaker 1: unorthodox left of center person. She's kind of like a
Speaker 1: Bill Maher, you know, non woke liberal, doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: tow the line all the time and ticks off a
Speaker 1: lot of people on the left. And she's an independent
Speaker 1: journalist and she did a really good job with She
Speaker 1: used to write for the New York Times, and then
Speaker 1: she got fired because she again didn't tow the line,
Speaker 1: started her own thing, made a fortune off of the
Speaker 1: free Price I think it was, and then gets hired
Speaker 1: by CUS to run all the CBS News department. Anyway,
Speaker 1: CBS Morning News. I don't even know if this is
Speaker 1: aired yet in its entirety, but they teased this. This
Speaker 1: is Joe Biden talking about the debate where Joe Biden
Speaker 1: just completely flubbed. And here's actually the piece that CBS
Speaker 1: ran about this.
Speaker 3: Did you ever see signs that he was falling into
Speaker 3: cognitive decline? No?
Speaker 2: No no.
Speaker 3: In a newly released clip from Sunday Morning, former First
Speaker 3: Lady Joe Biden pushed back on claims that her husband's
Speaker 3: mental acuity began to fade during his time in office.
Speaker 2: People were saying he wasn't the same Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think that's true. He was the essence
Speaker 4: of the same Joe Biden. But yeah, he was slowing down,
Speaker 4: he was getting older.
Speaker 3: But some who spent time with the former president have
Speaker 3: argued it was more than that. The actor George Clooney,
Speaker 3: who co hosted an LA fundraiser for Biden, said he
Speaker 3: was the same man we all witnessed at the debate
Speaker 3: in June of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Dealing with everything we have to do with Look if
Speaker 4: we finally beat Medicare.
Speaker 3: Special counsel Robert Hurr, who interviewed Biden at length, described
Speaker 3: him as an elderly man with a poor memory. Even
Speaker 3: Biden's vice president, Kamala Harris said in retrospect that it
Speaker 3: was reckless for him to seek a second term given
Speaker 3: his age and health.
Speaker 4: Jo you did such a great job.
Speaker 3: And While Jill Biden praised her husband's debate performance at
Speaker 3: the time, she now admits she was worried that night
Speaker 3: that something was seriously wrong.
Speaker 4: As I watched it, I thought, oh my god, he's
Speaker 4: having a stroke, and it scared me to death.
Speaker 3: In the end, the pressure from Democrats was so intense
Speaker 3: that Biden dropped his bid for reelection and handed the
Speaker 3: reins to Kamala Harris. That sequence of events is still
Speaker 3: a source of debate within the party even as it
Speaker 3: prepares for the next presidential election in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Tony Schools, Yeah, when we're gonna get to that in
Speaker 1: a second. The you know autopsy that the DNC kind
Speaker 1: of did about twenty twenty four, and I'm glad that
Speaker 1: they flubbed that too, because that doesn't spell well for
Speaker 1: their you know, prospects in a couple of years. But
Speaker 1: do you know what Jill Biden did, Doctor Jill Biden
Speaker 1: right after she supposedly apparently thought her husband was having
Speaker 1: a stroke on National TV, International TV. The world the
Speaker 1: world was watching that debate. That was the most consequential
Speaker 1: presidential debate honestly since probably Nixon Kennedy right the very
Speaker 1: first one on TV. They say that debate alone, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of sealed the deal for JFK, even though Nixon
Speaker 1: really won it because Chicago and Texas cheated. Different segment,
Speaker 1: What did she do when she thought her husband was
Speaker 1: having a stroke on State Did she bring him to
Speaker 1: the hospital, did she say, hey, Joe, we gotta go home.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the White House and just chill. No,
Speaker 1: she took him to waffle house. Yeah, waffle house, in
Speaker 1: the words of Joe Biden, not a joke. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: took him to waffle house right off that. I mean,
Speaker 1: like for a campaign stop to see how how you know,
Speaker 1: folks see that Joe Biden was She didn't think get
Speaker 1: a stroke. She's saying that now to kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: put across this sympathy thing for good old uncle Joe.
Speaker 1: You know, the way that CBS did this story again
Speaker 1: is just a teeny tiny bit better than that smug,
Speaker 1: condescending jerk in so many ways the NBC guy that
Speaker 1: we played earlier of the interviewing Spencer Pratt. This at
Speaker 1: least somewhat is looking back and making the left of
Speaker 1: center side of the political spectrum look bad. But they
Speaker 1: still have a long way to go. They still have
Speaker 1: a really long way to go, because what they kind
Speaker 1: of did here was make Kamala Harris seem spart in
Speaker 1: comparison to Joe Biden. Kamala Harris is not out of
Speaker 1: the question that she's going to run for president in
Speaker 1: a year and a half so the you know, media, establishment,
Speaker 1: legacy media, they're not going to put it out there
Speaker 1: or push the narrative that she is an idiot and
Speaker 1: she can't string two sentences coherently together. They're going to
Speaker 1: make you know, she's kind of wise. So she thought
Speaker 1: it was sort of reckless that he decided to continue on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: rich Lowery writes in The National Review, by the way,
Speaker 1: about this DNC autopsy, and it's he's he's on the
Speaker 1: spot in so many ways about it. But what you
Speaker 1: have to understand is that the DNC is not going
Speaker 1: to naval gaze and tell you how badly they blew it.
Speaker 1: They're everything they do. Every leftist's ultimate goal is more power.
Speaker 1: There's nothing more important in the world on this planet
Speaker 1: than leftists having more power, according to them, and people
Speaker 1: disagree with them having less power. So even releasing this
Speaker 1: is a calculated way to make them somehow look good
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty eight and even twenty twenty six this year,
Speaker 1: rich Lowery National Review. The DNC Autopsy is a thoroughly unimpressive,
Speaker 1: unfinished document that says more about the low state of
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party than any of its analysis does. The
Speaker 1: Democrats could not complete their turn paper, but handed it
Speaker 1: in any way because too many people were wondering what
Speaker 1: had become of it. Under pressure, the DNC finally released
Speaker 1: its autopsy of the twenty twenty four election after rampant
Speaker 1: speculation about what it contained and why it had not
Speaker 1: yet been made public. Did it include references to Gaza
Speaker 1: or didn't it?
Speaker 2: Why or why not?
Speaker 1: What revelations? What explosive revelations were being kept from us?
Speaker 1: It turns out that the autopsy is a thoroughly unimpressive,
Speaker 1: unfinished document that, in the sheer incompetence of its drafting
Speaker 1: and handling, says more about the low state of the
Speaker 1: current Democrat Party than any of its analysis does. The
Speaker 1: DNC chairman Ken Martin maintains that he delayed so long
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to create a distraction by releasing
Speaker 1: a poorly done report, which sounds like a typical Washington
Speaker 1: excuse for hiding something, except it wasn't. Once everyone saw
Speaker 1: the report, they realized Martin was right about the embarrassingly
Speaker 1: poor handiwork of its own outfit at the start. The
Speaker 1: autopsy contains a disclaimer that the DNC was not provided
Speaker 1: with the undergoory guiding sources, interviews, or supporting data for
Speaker 1: many of the assertions contained here in, and therefore cannot
Speaker 1: independently verify the claims are presented. Then, throughout the document
Speaker 1: there are hostile annotations casting doubt on its claims, and
Speaker 1: the report does not have a conclusion the Democrats would
Speaker 1: have been better off going with chat GPT. That said,
Speaker 1: the report acknowledges the Democrats are out of touch and
Speaker 1: too dependent on the Republicans poor making poor candidate choices,
Speaker 1: something the GOP may be about to do again in
Speaker 1: its Senate Texas primary. Yeah, he wrote this right before
Speaker 1: the Senate Texas I don't know. I'm I think Ken
Speaker 1: Paxton winning is good. He's going to win any way.
Speaker 1: Over this tell Rico guy and the Democrats are going
Speaker 1: to spend a ton of money into losing cause. Hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars in are losing costs for a centeries.
Speaker 1: But Rick Lowry disagrees anyway. The autopsy notes how Trump's
Speaker 1: They then add hitting Kamala Harris on trans issues was
Speaker 1: devastating an unanswerable hump that shows some actual intelligence. It
Speaker 1: recognizes that Harris did not do enough to separate from
Speaker 1: Biden and make an affirmative case for herself rather than
Speaker 1: relying on voters supposedly considering Trump unacceptable. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: it fails to grapple with the issue of inflation and immigration,
Speaker 1: except to complain about Harris being given a role with
Speaker 1: some responsibility over the border. They were they complained about
Speaker 1: her getting that responsibility. These are the two biggest substantive
Speaker 1: issues in the election. While the autopsy also whiffs on
Speaker 1: Biden's age and his catastrophic poor judgment in trying to
Speaker 1: run for reelection, it does not mention Gaza bitterly disappointing
Speaker 1: the anti Israel left. Yet our expectations for such documents
Speaker 1: should not be very hi. What was the report going
Speaker 1: to say? The Democrats disgrace themselves by pretending that Biden
Speaker 1: was fit for a second term and only shifted course
Speaker 1: when he got exposed in the first debate, and they
Speaker 1: then had no alternative but to turn to a charmless
Speaker 1: non entity as a last minute substitute. The history of
Speaker 1: party retrospectives like this is not good. Donald Trump won
Speaker 1: the presidency in twenty sixteen by taking the recommendations of
Speaker 1: the geop autopsy after its twenty twelve election defeat and
Speaker 1: often doing the opposite in substance and tone. Democrats may
Speaker 1: be rudderless and increasingly extreme, but that does not mean
Speaker 1: they won't have a good election night this coming November. Usually,
Speaker 1: a party that has just lost the White House rises
Speaker 1: or fails in the midterms, or falls in the midterm
Speaker 1: based on the incumbent president's job approval rating rather than
Speaker 1: its own political creativity or inherent appeal. As are retaking
Speaker 1: the White House, that typically depends on nominating someone who
Speaker 1: is charismatic and fresh, who has an unexpected approach to politics,
Speaker 1: and who develops a new coalition. I think Barack Obama
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight or Donald Trump in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: None of this comes about by having a political strategist
Speaker 1: talk to a bunch of people about the immediate past
Speaker 1: election and write along report about it. Needless to say,
Speaker 1: Democrats should be grateful that the stakes of their autopsy
Speaker 1: are so low, Otherwise they would have had to endeavor
Speaker 1: to actually finish it and grapple with truths about the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election conveniently passed over in the just
Speaker 1: released document. It's one of the things that you can
Speaker 1: Rich Lowry. By the way, in national reviews, it's one
Speaker 1: of the things you can count on by the left.
Speaker 1: They have very very little self awareness and don't like
Speaker 1: being told that they were wrong. We will be right
Speaker 1: back on Tony Katz today. I am Mike Coolwich in
Speaker 1: for Tony. Don't go anywhere. Three year back on Tony
Speaker 1: Katz today. Mike Coolidge is who I am.
Speaker 2: That is my name.
Speaker 1: I am not Tony Katz. I am found on X
Speaker 1: K O L I DGE And the second hour we're
Speaker 1: going to open up the phone lines. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I want your opinion on data centers. Data centers, however
Speaker 1: you say data Are you pro them near you? Are
Speaker 1: you anti them? It is? It sounds like a boring topic.
Speaker 2: It ain't.
Speaker 1: Everyone I talk to has an opinion about data centers.
Speaker 1: They don't want them near them, especially if they live
Speaker 1: near farms like we do. Or they do absolutely want
Speaker 1: them for jobs for US beeding China in the race.
Speaker 1: Or they don't want them because they have environmental concerns,
Speaker 1: water concerns, or they do want them because they love
Speaker 1: technology and AI. I don't know, but I know everyone
Speaker 1: has strong opinions about them, and it is not a
Speaker 1: cut and dry left right issue. So I had a
Speaker 1: hard lefties and hard right e's who were against them
Speaker 1: and vice versa. That's coming up in the next hour
Speaker 1: of Tony Katz today, and the number to call to
Speaker 1: weigh in is three point two six four three eighty
Speaker 1: seven hundred. But one last thing I want to say
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty four. The reason that Kamala Harris lost
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump wasn't because necessarily Joe Biden got out
Speaker 1: too late. It wasn't even because of inflation and the economy.
Speaker 1: You know why it was. It was because of Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris and Donald Trump. Donald Trump had four years of
Speaker 1: experience already being president. People look back on that and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, those were some pretty good years twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen to twenty twenty. We want him back. He has
Speaker 1: the competence and the leadership to do it, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna give him a second shot. And then they looked
Speaker 1: at her if they didn't believe that where they were
Speaker 1: kind of heading and on, because remember you only get
Speaker 1: two choices for president basically, and they looked at her
Speaker 1: and they said, my gosh, this woman is an idiot.
Speaker 1: She can't string two sentences together. She can't even answer
Speaker 1: the question why she wants to be president. She's gonna
Speaker 1: have her finger on the button. She's gonna be in
Speaker 1: control of the most powerful military on the planet. She's
Speaker 1: going to be in control of our borders. She's gonna
Speaker 1: be in control in many ways of our economy. No,
Speaker 1: thank you, she ain't got it. Trump won farre and
Speaker 1: square both the popular vote and the electoral College vote.
Speaker 1: I remember three coming up after this. Don't go anywhere.