The Japanese Ate A Lot of People In WW2

The Japanese committed a lot of war crimes in World War II but cannibalism wasn’t one of them, though only because cannibalism wasn’t technically a war crime because no one thought to make a rule against it. Still, Imperial Japanese soldiers practiced cannibalism more than you would think, and NOT because of a lack of food. We talk about the instances Japanese soldiers ate Allied troops both as an act of psychological warfare and because they believed it would bring them strength. 

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. One thing we've always said on the

show is that the Pacific Theater just an absolute nightmare.

As far as American wars go, that is number one

worse place to fight. I put it above the Civil

War in Vietnam, which are the other two that I

would probably put close to it.

Speaker 1: I think comparable to Vietnam.

Speaker 2: It's comparable to Vietnam, but I still think this is worse,

partly because the enemy was more near peer.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they were on our level.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like crazier, even though the Vietnamese, God

bless them, they were crazy, but the Japanese were just

another level of insane. And actually that's what we're gonna

talk about today.

Speaker 1: Well, we've done some Japanese war crime episodes before.

Speaker 2: We've done the Siege of Manila, which was horrifying, and

we also did the I guess what was my favorite one?

Speaker 1: The episode where they got eaten by alligators crocodiles.

Speaker 2: Yeah, the saltwater crocs.

Speaker 1: Yeah, of course alligators only in Florida, uh slash Louisian China.

Speaker 2: No, there's something in China. There is a type of

allegator in China, but it's specifically the saltwater croc because

those crocs are fucking enormous and there was getting chomped

up Romrie Island. Highly recommend checking that episode. It's one

of my favorite ones.

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Speaker 2: I thought Bouch should enjoy that one. Yeah, I thought

Booch's alley.

Speaker 1: And that was when Jake was still with us.

Speaker 2: Yeah, he just skipped the week he did so. I

think the Pacific Theater was also you could probably still

rank the Eastern Front above it in terms of worse

fronts to be on, but in terms of but that

the Eastern Front was mostly in terms of just like

the Armies, the Pacific theater was. I guess the environment too.

I think I'd rather fight in the cold than the jungle.

Speaker 1: But dude, fucked the cold, now you wouldn't you think

you'd prefer jungle. Yeah, give me humidity, give me the bugs,

give me the snakes. I don't want the cold.

Speaker 2: I learned This episode is about this. But one thing

I learned is that a lot of soldiers had to

be taken off the front line from the Pacific from uh,

from a debilitating I guess illness is really more of

a skin situation. They got tropical acne, just acne so

bad that it like was crippling.

Speaker 1: It's fine, take that over prospect, all right, every day

of the week.

Speaker 2: Fair enough.

Speaker 1: There was a reason I moved to Texas. That's a

fucking hate the cold.

Speaker 2: That's fair. One thing we always like to also joke

about is how the Japanese almost ate George.

Speaker 1: Bush h W.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not an exaggeration. They almost ate George W. Bush.

So what I came to find out was that.

Speaker 1: Maybe they knew there were time travelers. They had to

stop HW from eating the baby. Yeah it was eat

or B eating allegedly.

Speaker 2: Yeah, get that. They want his indurna crone. He was

a twenty year old at the time, young blood. But

what I came to find out is that that instance

of cannibalism because and we're gonna talk about that in

this incident, it was a and not a one off.

The Japanese often eight enemy soldiers and.

Speaker 1: B Imperial Japan. Yep, I didn't go back centuries though.

People weren't No, I'm just Samurai weren't people. I'm just

talking about World War two, yeah, B. But I'm just

saying that was like a new thing for them.

Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently new wish because it did go against like

their you know, because they were a normal culture. No

one eats people, right, so like it was taboo.

Speaker 1: Obviously before that they were kind of dicks, but Imperial

Japan took it to a whole another level certainly.

Speaker 2: Oh they really. Yeah, they glowed up there evil quite

a bit.

Speaker 1: We've talked about Samurai culture. They were just the murdering

hobos test your sword, their goons.

Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were.

Speaker 1: A lower class, it would just strike you down to

test the new sword.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but it did be is this cannibalism did not

happen solely because they didn't have other food to eat.

Speaker 1: No, they had plenty of women's titties that they cut off,

also that they could have just cooked up.

Speaker 2: But a lot of the time, a lot of the

instances of cannibalism that were recorded were not because of

a lack of food. It was for other like they

didn't need to eat the people. They wanted to eat

the people.

Speaker 1: Psychological warfare.

Speaker 2: Yes, and we're gonna get in uh to that now.

So Japanese Americans and other Allied soldiers on several recorded occasions.

And while it wasn't what I would call widespread, it

wasn't not widespread. And let me explain that. Historians estimate

there's about one hundred confirmed incidents based on declassified Allied

documents and war crimes trials and survivor testimonies. But it

was probably like more to quite a bit more, because

in nineteen forty four, the Japanese sent out in order

to the whole army being like stop eating people. It

was prevalent enough that the army had to be like

stop eating humans.

Speaker 1: Had to do a directive order. Yeah, the entire army,

millions of people in the Japanese army, they were like

stop eating your goddamn enemies, you psychopaths. What was the

recruiting process, like, were they just getting a bunch of

people out of prison.

Speaker 2: The Japanese was a kuza back then, and every man

on the theyakuza probably got out of it, honestly, if anything.

But yeah, it was every sixteen year old and up

on the fucking island.

Speaker 1: Actually not familiar. When do you think the yakuza.

Speaker 2: Started, great, question, they were certainly around during.

Speaker 1: D It'd be similar to the Italian mafia in America,

same time frame.

Speaker 2: It says, seventeenth century Japan.

Speaker 1: Shit, they've been around a while.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they really. I think I read before

that they really they were already, you know, a thing,

but I mean like the Sicilian mafia predates.

Speaker 1: Yeah, uh the old country.

Speaker 2: Yeah, they were already a thing, certainly, But I read

that in post war Japan they really started bucking, like

they really started to flourish in the sort of lawless,

rubble filled country.

Speaker 1: What was I guess their prohibition that ignited their rise,

because the Italian mafia in America doesn't really do their

thing unless there's prohibition.

Speaker 2: Yeah, prohibition took them to another level. Certainly, they were

around and they were doing stuff, but they're you know,

they're on Dago Hill and Saint Louis and things of

that nature.

Speaker 1: But it's a real name, uh in New Orleans.

Speaker 2: Yeah, But again, the Japanese like a huge black market

pops up after World War two because of the lack

of supplies, the lack of infrastructure, the lack of who

the fuck is in charge other than the Americans. So

them being the only like remotely standing system of like

organized group of Japanese people after the war, I think

helped them a lot. That's off the dome, so there

could be wrong, but I believe that's roughly in the ballpark.

So in some Japanese units, the cannibalization became normalized, with

soldiers harvesting specific parts of enemy soldiers like live thighs

and even brains. So this is the story of I think.

Speaker 1: What's like the horrific Unit seven.

Speaker 2: Unit seven thirty one thirty one. So we get into

a that was not the only group that did that stuff,

and we're going to get into to one of them.

Speaker 1: But they did a lot of war crimes. Oh, they

better documented.

Speaker 2: Nothing but war crimes. Yeah, and we gave we let

them all off so that we could take the data. Yeah, God,

what does an anthrax candy bar do to a Chinese

eight year old? That's important to know, said Harry S. Truman.

Speaker 1: I feel like we could have gotten that info and

still executed all of them. I know, doesn't seem like

it's a fair trade.

Speaker 2: Or Also, you would think that one American doctor would

be like, what does it do? What do you think

it does?

Speaker 1: Yeah, it kills them immediately.

Speaker 2: What do you what else do you need to know?

Were you planning on doing this?

Speaker 1: Yeah? If you just throw a baby up into the

air and you catch it with a bayonet, what will happen?

Speaker 2: Science? Science, So we're gonna start with the Chichi Jima incident.

This is Bush's incident in the Bonin Islands between September

and October nineteen forty four.

Speaker 1: You're just doing this because you love HW.

Speaker 2: I do? I do like HW. I think he's one

of the most underrated presidents of the last fifty years.

Speaker 1: He will be exposed soon enough. I don't think the

Bushes were well, W was W's not No, W's just

chilling W.

Speaker 2: Look, he wasn't a good president.

Speaker 1: And Dick Cheney. We're just doing it for the love

of the game.

Speaker 2: I won't I can't comment on Dick Cheney, but like

w not a good president, but like clearly a good dude.

Speaker 1: Should have been the baseball commissioner.

Speaker 2: He should have been.

Speaker 1: That's what he was meant to be.

Speaker 2: It truly was, and it's a shame as a baseball

fan that we didn't get George W. Bush as the

commissioner of baseball.

Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'll just paint so Chichi Jima.

Speaker 2: They were, they were attacking this island. There was a

key radio station there in the Bonan Islands. There were

a bunch of Navy raids air raids in nineteen forty four.

They're trying to take it out because it was again

big communication hub, trying to fuck up the Japanese infrastructure.

And nine airmen flying grumming TBF Avengers, which I think

is like a sort of like a fighter bomber. It's

not like a it's not like a big like flying

fortress or like what you would think of like a

four engine or or two engine bomber. It looks more

like a fighter plane, I believe. But they were shot

down peep pew by anti aircraft fire.

Speaker 1: It's exactly what it sounded like to Pepoo.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a torpedo bomber, but it looks it's like

a stupid kind of maybe I don't know, you out

of your depth. Yeah, but what I'm saying is it

doesn't look well. When people think World War two bomber,

they immediately go to like Masters of the Sky or

Air or whatever the fuck that shows.

Speaker 1: SELVM watch it.

Speaker 2: It gets good.

Speaker 1: I'm sure it's good.

Speaker 2: Also, there's a guy in that show who I think

should be the next Bond. I do not think it

should be JACOBILORDI. I think he should be Calum Turner.

Speaker 1: Nohan thinks it's gonna be Jacob e LORDI that.

Speaker 2: He's been getting a lot of press.

Speaker 1: It's gonna be Aaron Taylor Johnson.

Speaker 2: No, and needs to be Calum Turner. Calum Turner has

is number one with the bullet and he's in He's

in that show. He's great. So nine guys are shot

down and parachute Lieutenant George H. W. Bush's torpedo bomber

was hit by an aircraft fire. His plane caught fire,

but he managed to complete his mission. He got his

load out and uh and he bailed out over the

ocean and inflated his life.

Speaker 1: Raft seems like a weird spot to jack off.

Speaker 2: I don't think so. Combat Jack, that's totally normal. Do

we ever ask Jack if he did it? Did that?

Speaker 1: Yeah, he jacked off all the time.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: War, he said, dudes would just be cranking it left

and right.

Speaker 2: He's oh yeah. He said he caught one guy cranking

it in his in the armored vehicle and he was mad.

Speaker 1: There's only so much space.

Speaker 2: I know.

Speaker 1: I mean, you leave enough room when you take a shit,

but nobody cares if you jack off in their spot.

Speaker 2: It's just a load. You just stamp that into the ground.

Speaker 1: Everyone's a hand when you're in war, everyone's a hand.

Speaker 2: So Bush's survival was like pure, truly pure luck. He

was somehow unseen and just floated away in the ocean.

He was a drift for four hours before he was

saved by the submarine, the USS finback, the eight other

down Americans.

Speaker 1: The finback just sounds like a slurlur.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like hear me out. If dolphins got

super intelligent.

Speaker 1: Finback, goddamn finback. Yeah, if they took over the town

like in the Simpsons, yes, yeah, these fucking fucking finbacks everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 2: So the eight other American airman who got shot down

not so lucky. They were captured by Japanese forces under

Lieutenant General Yoshio Tachibana. Sometimes Japanese names are pretty easy

phonetically the Chinese.

Speaker 1: Are, but you gotta put that Japanese spice on Iturebana.

Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, uh. These men were tortured and all executed,

probably beheaded. At least four of them had their livers

and other body parts eaten by Japanese officers in a

form of ritualistic cannibalism, because the Japanese believed the liver

specifically would grant them strength.

Speaker 1: How did that work though? Was it tabal or another god,

another entity, even though the emperor believed he was god,

just for the emperor. Okay, so there's just eating it

for the emperor.

Speaker 2: Well, it was partly for revenge, but partly they thought

that they thought that the liver was like partly medicinal,

like it was good to eat human liver, and you

know you're not gonna do your own guys, So and

then there was a bit of it was a bit

of revenge to it too, like fuck, you for prominence.

We're gonna eat you. Yeah. The livers and other body

parts were cooked with soy sauce and vegetables, so it

was a traditional Japanese meal.

Speaker 1: Human apparently tastes a lot like pork long pig. Yeah.

Speaker 2: I saw a conspiracy video at the reason Jews and

Muslims don't.

Speaker 1: Eat pigs because they think that the human soul that's

lost goes to a pig, because these pigs have like

human I like guys.

Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was. You might be right, but

my memory of the real that I watched was it

was like they were like an offshoot of humanity, essentially,

like at some point they bred themselves into being pigs.

Speaker 1: The human pig.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they those cultures had a memory of that,

and they won't eat pork.

Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'm making a human pick coppers.

Speaker 2: They might be right, you know what, if it's for

organ transplants, I don't care. Let the freaks, let the

I feel guilty and big now why I mean they

are they're tasty, but I'm actually not a huge pork guy.

I'm a little out on bacon.

Speaker 1: I like all pork products except ham. I hate a

honey baked tam. Dude, I don't know why everything else

hits bacon. Pulled pork.

Speaker 2: Still like pulled pork. I'm kind of over bacon.

Speaker 1: You're just trying to be different. No, I'm just a

little over it.

Speaker 2: Uh, pork chops are the right type of pork. Still great.

Speaker 1: I don't know. Honey baked tam just doesn't hit the

sam as the other pork products.

Speaker 2: That's fair. Did you eat a lot as a kid?

Speaker 1: No. It was my last meal before I showed symptoms

of crones disease, though, so I might actually align my

Cron's disease with the last time I ate ham.

Speaker 2: That's fair. Although there is actually a lot of pork

products as still because basically every Italian meat, like Italian

deli meats.

Speaker 1: All the sausages too. Yeah, a good pork sausage.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So. Japanese testimonies during the nineteen forty six

Guam War criminal trials revealed that the uh.

Speaker 1: The only thing we've ever done at Guam.

Speaker 2: I think we have a battle there.

Speaker 1: Yeah. That's such a useless island. It's not even pretty.

Speaker 2: It's there to launch airplanes.

Speaker 1: It's gross.

Speaker 2: It's there to launch airplanes off of in refuel ships.

Speaker 1: It's not Fiji, No, No, certainly not. No.

Speaker 2: American Samoa doesn't seem much better, although that island might

be beautiful, but we just like.

Speaker 1: Do we're just scooping up all these bad islands.

Speaker 2: They're not bad, they're useful.

Speaker 1: Find more useful islands that are still pretty like Hawaii.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the reason why I have Hawaii.

Speaker 1: Why is awesome?

Speaker 2: It's useful as.

Speaker 1: The best place on earth?

Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of is.

Speaker 1: It's perfect.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: I was there for like nine days. It was incredible.

Speaker 2: It's literal paradise.

Speaker 1: The weather was pristine.

Speaker 2: It's a little hot.

Speaker 1: Wasn't that hot? Grant was December, but.

Speaker 2: I was there in November. Yeah, both times the winter

actually so. Vice Admiral moriy Kuniso commanded the chichi Jima

Air Base, and he was particularly of the belief that

the liver had medicinal benefits. So he was like, yeah, boys,

you get any pilots, chop them up, Yeah, chop them up.

That's medicine.

Speaker 1: Eastern medicine is a little different, and apparently they probably

thought it like brought fertility as well.

Speaker 2: Well. One of the things they thought too, is that

it brought them the strength of their vanquished enemies.

Speaker 1: Get all that tea.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had a couple of weird beliefs about that.

Speaker 1: Prove them wrong.

Speaker 2: Guess I can't, I personally can't. I have to get

a scientist.

Speaker 1: I think you're afraid to eat other humans because you're

afraid of how much you all enjoy it. Vampire like you.

Speaker 2: I did once look how pale you are? Yeah, I

know one time in a in the most Mexican hub

in the city, I was walking through and a little

Mexican girl looks up at me. She must have been five.

This is completely true story. She's with her mom. She

looks up at me with my dark hair and my

pale skin, and she goes simpio.

Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I did not adjust for me to have

a warmer color balance on the cameras. We have the

exact same.

Speaker 2: I feel like, this doesn't this doesn't even look bad.

I feel pretty good about the skin tone right now

on YouTube.

Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, whider than it appears in camera. Yeah, yeah,

I'm blind.

Speaker 2: This was also the cannibalism tended to be an act

to build unit cohesion, kind of like we're all we're

all doing the worst thing possible together. We're yeah, brotherhood,

We're just in it, just in it together.

Speaker 1: That's why they all did it. Epstein's silent too.

Speaker 2: You can't yeah, when everyone's got dirt on each other,

it's a yeah, it's a it's a Mexican standoff of

horrible secrets. That's all they get, you usually assured destruction.

They also did it to uh instill fearlessness in their troops,

so like they did psychological warfare against the enemy, but

they also did it for themselves to be like, look, man,

what do you have to be afraid of anymore? You

already did the worst fucking thing you can do.

Speaker 1: It's really only psychological warfare. If they're chomping on a

leg like it's turkey in front of a US soldier,

we'll get to that, okay, just like that at a

ren fare, Yeah, being a human leg, we will get

to that, chopping on it to the bone.

Speaker 2: And then they also believed that it gave soldiers nerves

of steel. And again when they did this at Chichijima.

Speaker 1: How high were they though? Were they all gassed up

on some type of myth you.

Speaker 2: Don't need on meth though you don't need on meth.

But I guess you're like mentally fucked up.

Speaker 1: I'm sure you can eat human on methy. Yeah yeah,

it seems like the only time you would eat human.

Speaker 2: I am actually not. Baths were about what the Japanese were.

Speaker 1: On, yeah, because Germans were all jacked up on. I

think it was called the p Perivian yeah, yeah, yeah

or something. Yes, it was a meth pill.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's an amphetamine. So after the war, this

incident gets brought up in the Guam War trials. But

military and international law didn't really have a law about cannibal.

Speaker 1: They didn't think they had to write it in.

Speaker 2: Right, They had no point foresaw that punitive cannibalism would

be something they needed to make a law about.

Speaker 1: Like who was the last army to actually eat other

armies for effect? Right? Not out of necessity, right right?

Not like oh we're starving, we're out of resources.

Speaker 2: Yeah, plenty of armies have done that. I don't know

any army off the top of my head that did

it to fuck with their enemy. So yeah, they didn't

even think to write it. They were like, why would

we have to make a law about this? Whyould we

possibly have to waste three days writing all these law.

We're writing all these laws that we have to waste

like three days a week working on a cannibal.

Speaker 1: Law because they assume everyone that's fight in a war

is still in fact a human being.

Speaker 2: Right, which I think the Japanese.

Speaker 1: I think we revoked that status from anybody that participated

in Unit seven thirty one. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah, And this wasn't Unit seven thirty one by way, right.

This was an average Joe Japanese unit on a random island.

This was not some crazy special Forces unit. This was

not some crazy medical experimentation unit. These were gi Japanese

Joe's just on the isle. This was essentially the equivalent

of your grandpa in World War Two. But they're Japanese,

just normal guys.

Speaker 1: They're just working a fishing boat four years before.

Speaker 2: Right. So, of the thirty Japanese soldiers prosecuted for this,

four officers were found guilty and hanged.

Speaker 1: Listen, there's a reason we had to new com twice.

Speaker 2: Make sure they're down, because they.

Speaker 1: Weren't gonna admit defeat after one.

Speaker 2: I don't think they were at all. The more you

the more you learn about the Japanese in World War Two.

The more you're just like, there's nothing bad enough for them,

there's nothing bad enough for them, right will It's it's

like my life's mission to be like, did you know

the Japanese were every bit as bad as.

Speaker 1: But now they're kind of like one of our greatest allies.

I know we nuked them into submits, but like, here's the.

Speaker 2: Thing, man, this could have been something that like showy

O Tani's grandpa was doing.

Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you forget about those war crimes when

he's hitting dingers, When.

Speaker 2: He's striking out ten and hitting three homers in an LCS.

Speaker 1: Game, I forgive Japan for everything after that. It's just

although he's on the Dodgers now, so maybe not.

Speaker 2: It's annoying, no, yeah, but it's still.

Speaker 1: I'm in all.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. All the enlisted men were released after eight years.

In one US report just from New Guinea, which was nearby,

an American soldier's mutilated body was found near a Japanese

bunker with a stewpot containing a human sized heart and liver.

So they were finding these things everywhere.

Speaker 1: Not don't want to waste any body part.

Speaker 2: It wasn't like, it wasn't like it happened one hundred

thousand times, but it might have happened like ten thousand times,

like truly, like we have one hundred recorded incidents. But again,

my main piece of evidence that this was quite a

bit more pervasive than even people think. It's just that

you don't send out an order to like five million

people to stop doing.

Speaker 1: Something if it's only been none five times, right, right,

You maybe talk to somebody like, hey, here's a stern

talking to don't eat people.

Speaker 2: You gotta think there are other dudes in the Japanese

army too that were like, what.

Speaker 1: Why am I getting this? Yeah? What they mail us today? Yeah,

an apartment complex sends kind of a site wide email

about a specific issue, and you're like, what who the

fuck did that?

Speaker 2: Right? Please stop opening your butthole over the sprinklers right

before they pop up out of the ground. You're like, whoo,

how often does this happen?

Speaker 1: But that's oddly specific? Yeah, just addressed the one person.

Speaker 2: Like unless it's not just sol of them, right, it's

all of us. There's a dozen people doing it. The

next one and this one is the one that's.

Speaker 1: Well, they don't have the days here, that's fair.

Speaker 2: Enough.

Speaker 1: So a couple of Europeans live here. They want to

live a life of luxury. You go to the sprinkler's

house side.

Speaker 2: They get scrappy.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Uh, this one, this next one is the unit. It's

that it's not Unit seven thirty one. So it wasn't

only Unit seven thirty one doing this. This is another exactly.

Speaker 1: Apparently all of this is just not Unit seven thirty one.

Speaker 2: So none of none, nothing in this episode continue is

Unit seven thirty one. So this is the Kyushu vivisections

and cannibalism that happened between May and June of nineteen

forty five, late in the game. Late in the game,

we were bombing the shit out of Japan on May fifth, nineteen.

Speaker 1: You sure they weren't desperate.

Speaker 2: Yes, every single they had food. Every single one of

these recorded instances that I used were when they had food.

Speaker 1: I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But why it's not why, I don't know, Just because

I believe in humanity and there's no way you cross

this line unless it's absolutely necessary.

Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's already been shown in the first one

that it wasn't necessary. Okay, they just did it anyway,

I wanted to eat George Bush.

Speaker 1: It might be a better one if the HW, how

dare you thought it? Wars would have been prevented? Just kidding,

somebody else would have done it. Yeah, he's just a suit,

just a guy. It's just a guy.

Speaker 2: So multiple May fifth nine point five, multiple b twenty

nine bombers.

Speaker 1: Even though HW was in charge of intelligence. I don't

worry about it. Shitty stuff he did, I don't worry

about it.

Speaker 2: Great president, let's.

Speaker 1: He I mean the nineties were okay, I spose he.

Speaker 2: I will say this, and I don't know everything about George,

but but in terms of foreign policy, he just stuck

to landing so hard that it's like incredible to even fathom.

Like the Soviet Union falls and nothing bad happens immediately

after term.

Speaker 1: So it went over the American population as Ross Parro's fault.

You can't be blaming a third party that one, you can.

Speaker 2: It's a joke.

Speaker 1: You're unserious.

Speaker 2: That hit literally swung the election.

Speaker 1: You're unserious. It only taken down by Ross Perot.

Speaker 2: He only took votes from Bush. It's crazy that it

even that the America was even Like, yeah, but I

don't know, it'd been twelve years of Reaganite Republicans, so

I think they were just like fuck it.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: So multiple B twenty nine's targeted the Tachiarii air Base

in Kayoshu, Japan, and on Kayoshu, which is Japan's southernmost

main island. One B twenty nine, commanded by Lieutenant Marvin Watkins,

was hit in mid air by a Japanese Kamakazi plane.

They weren't just ramming boats.

Speaker 1: The plane in the plane.

Speaker 2: Rammed into their B twenty nine, and about a dozen

people parachuted from the flaming aircraft. According to observers, probably

other planes, not like other bombers.

Speaker 1: So imagine they were going the same way and they

just kind of sideswiped them.

Speaker 2: Or they came in from above, who knows, but yeah,

they the Japanese plane came in and just cracked.

Speaker 1: It was a head on collision. I feel like, boom,

ain't no time to parachute out.

Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's just your wreck and the whole plane. Yeah.

I think it just kind of he clipped them or

something and it was enough time for them to bail out.

Several of the airmen in the plane died basically immediately

immediately upon landing one I think his parachute didn't work,

like the cords broke unfortunately. Yeah, another one got to

the ground. I think he fought off a few people,

but then he had one bullet left and was like nope,

took into the nome, blew his brains out. He was like,

I've heard plenty of stories at this point about what

the Japanese do to prisoners. Probably don't even know about

the eating, but he was just like, I am not

getting taken prisoner. Blew his brains out. And then at

least two were stabbed or beaten or shot to death

by either Japanese captors or just like local civilians who

were like, fuck these guys who were alighting all our

cities on fire, let's kill him. But somewhere between nine

and eleven crew members survived the crash, never forget, and

were captured by the Japanese, and the captives were of

course had the ship beat out of them because they

hated the bombing crews especially, they didn't know what to

do with them for a minute, so a military doctor

and a colonel from a local regiment decided, let's use

the prisoners for medical experiments. You know, it'll cost too

much to feed them and shit, so let's just let's

just do experiments on Let's do science on them.

Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're thankful for their sacrifice. We uncovered so

many things.

Speaker 2: There was one airman who escaped this fate, the captain

of the commander of the plane, Marvin Watkins. He was

taken away from the unit and sent to Tokyo for interrogation.

He was still tortured and everything, but he did survive

the war.

Speaker 1: And he gets a chill in Tokyo.

Speaker 2: I don't know if he's chilling.

Speaker 1: Chilling in Tokyo. Tokyo is better than the Jungles.

Speaker 2: It's better than where the rest of his crew went.

So they transferred. The other eight airmen were transferred to

Kyushu University's medical school and the faculty, and to the

faculty for surgical experiments. Highly regarded school or it doesn't

you know they think outside the box.

Speaker 1: There be sweet if like it's their Harvard World War two.

Fdr just sends a bunch of Japanese Americans to Harvard

to be experimented on.

Speaker 2: He's just like cut off that feet and see what happens.

Speaker 1: University of Pennsylvania uncovered you cannot inject a Japanese man

with this amount of heroin.

Speaker 2: It seems the average Japanese man can take only eight

ounces of heroin.

Speaker 1: He starts to convulse.

Speaker 2: Mean, this knowledge is useful.

Speaker 1: We have it now, and he chokes on his vomit. Great, dude,

unless you turn him over.

Speaker 2: Which we did not, so you gotta let it play out.

They immediately just start cutting these guys open. They'll bring it.

They'll bring them into surgery rooms and stuff like that.

They rarely had enough or any anesthesia, so the victims

were conscious while this was happening. They conducted the experiments

to test surgical techniques and also just like the human

response to having your lung pulled.

Speaker 1: Out, Sure we needed that info.

Speaker 2: I guess it's useful for there were there were no controls.

There was no like, there was no like ab testing

it again, you know what I mean, Like it was

just like, all right, let's cut out his do alive. Yeah,

see what happens. A lot of these took place in

the university's operating theater, so like you know, there's an

operating room and then above it there's just like bleachers

like in Seinfeld when he drops of Junior Mint into

the spectacle.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their Breton circus. So one baseball hadn't made

it over there yet.

Speaker 2: It had, but no one airman.

Speaker 1: Uh.

Speaker 2: He was the first victim, Teddy Ponska something Polish, I

don't know. Under only partial sedation. Surgeons removed guy. I

know this, poor guy. I don't even know his fucking name.

I mean, I know it, I can't say it, Ponska.

Speaker 1: I will not live in Coco verse because he didn't

get his name right.

Speaker 2: Yeah, he had his lung cut out for nothing. He

was only partially sedated. And again, like I said, surgeons

just cut out, took out his lung. They wanted to

see how it would affect the respiratory system.

Speaker 1: Gave him partial sedation.

Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just like that. That's the idea. They're like,

I wonder what would happen to his breathing if we

took one of the lungs away?

Speaker 1: What he is gonna the other one work really harder? Yeah,

it's gonna get worse, you assholes.

Speaker 2: What do you think? And then at one point they

operated on him again, and the surgeon U Taro Tosu,

just like reached in and like with his hand just

like stopped his heart.

Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I thank these Japanese doctors because without these experiments,

my dad at the University of Pennsylvania doesn't get his

lung transplant from a Japanese man.

Speaker 2: What did we learn?

Speaker 1: The Japanese doctor did it. He's highly regarded. Don't remember

his name, But now my dad's been alive for five years. Wow,

because of probably this guy's sacrificed.

Speaker 2: Maybe Teddy saved him.

Speaker 1: So no, I mean, they figured out all the lung

trip ups.

Speaker 2: We figured out all the wrong ways to do it.

Speaker 1: And then you know, he learned this knowledge over in Japan,

came over to America to work at U penn and

now you know he did a transplant on my dad.

Speaker 2: Happy for your dad.

Speaker 1: I think it was like Yokamoto sounds right.

Speaker 2: I mean, he's just he probably learned from the guys,

you know what I mean?

Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously he wasn't there, right, wasn't that old, right,

But that knowledge was passed down to him by these

So in an indirect way, they kind of saved my

dad's life.

Speaker 2: We salute you.

Speaker 1: Who's the real hitler of the episode, Rob from blaming them.

Speaker 2: Another experiment that all eight of the victims had to

undergo was they just injected them with sea water.

Speaker 1: Why not, I'm sure salt water's good for you.

Speaker 2: They wanted to see if it was a decent substitute

for saline, like sterile saline.

Speaker 1: Was it not?

Speaker 2: It was not? No, and Ponska bled to death during that.

He actually the long thing didn't kill him.

Speaker 1: Did they not believe in experimenting with rats or like

working their way up to humans?

Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess not. Why if you have a I

guess if you have a free human, why bother with them?

Speaker 1: So I probably considered us rats at some degree.

Speaker 2: That's also a serious possibility. They would draw holes into

the skulls and small brain sections would be removed to

study epilepsy and stuff like that. They forgot to write

most of it down though.

Speaker 1: Well that was just like a religious thing over there too, right.

Didn't Jake do an episode in about Japanese cults that

like drilled a hole in their head?

Speaker 2: Was that was that Japanese? I think it was Japanese, Okay,

I couldn't remember.

Speaker 1: Could could be mixing two stories together, but there was

definitely a cult that drilled holes and heads.

Speaker 2: There was I do remember doing that episode, and I

do think it was in the under the guise of

like Eastern medicine. At the end of all of this,

there were reports that several of the experimenters doctors or

whomever uh took the livers of at least one victim

and had a little dinner party with it to celebrate

the end of their experiments.

Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever eaten liver just in general.

Speaker 2: Have you had pate?

Speaker 1: No?

Speaker 2: You never had.

Speaker 1: Like I thought liver was gonna be more prevalent in

my life because of the show Dug. Yeah, liver and

onions they had every fucking meal. Yeah, but yeah, I don't.

I've never encountered liver on a menu.

Speaker 2: Just pata pat is the only liver I've eaten regularly?

Is that?

Speaker 1: Like?

Speaker 2: How do they prepare that it's expreadable meat? Okay, you

probably have had pete?

Speaker 1: Probably not. I don't just dive into spreads.

Speaker 2: Have you had brunch faga, No, No, that's that's liver. No,

you never had a brunchwoger sandwich. No, that's good. I

loved it when I was a kid. The party allegedly

took place June third, nineteen forty five, uh, just a

day after the final vivisection. Historians speculate it was like

in an informal gathering among the doctors and staff. Again,

like I said, to celebrate, there was either one liver

or multiple livers. Now, it's not totally corroborated, but obviously.

Speaker 1: For the sake of the show, it's just more entertaining

if we go with it.

Speaker 2: It's well within the realm of possibility. Yeah, and I

think they did it.

Speaker 1: Whenever I come across something in my research and it's

like many historians dispute this, I ignore that, Yeah, because

I'm like, this makes the story better. Yes, why would

I ignore that?

Speaker 2: I also just it's completely plausible. And essentially the reason

it's not corroborated is because when these people were prosecuted

after the war, that was one of the charges. But

like the their defense attorney, who was also an American

by the way, was just like, there's no fucking evidence

for this, it's all wit in his testimony, and one

guy was like, one guy admitted to it, but said

he was coerced into admitting to it. And essentially the

prosecutors were like, well, fuck it, we know for sure

that they cut open eight American soldiers. I guess we

don't need the cannibalism charge to get them in jail

for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 1: Yeah, go for the lesser charge. It'll stick.

Speaker 2: Right. They had what they had. They didn't bother with

it because they had harder evidence for the other stuff.

Of the thirty defendants, twenty three were convicted on vivisection charges.

They were five. There were five death sentences, four life sentences,

and fourteen shorter sentences. All of the sentences from the

death sentences to the lesser sentences were commuted in nineteen

fifty by General Douglas MacArthur in the middle of the

Korean War. Motherfucker, I guess because they just he was busy,

so he was like, dude, fuck it, fuck it.

Speaker 1: It was Japan's rolling the Korean War.

Speaker 2: I don't think they put many troops in, but they

were certainly going to help us a little bit, very

important staging area. All of our shit went through Japan. Yeah, sure,

we owned it basically.

Speaker 1: Well, I know, we've rebuilt the railroads, ironically, we rebuilt everything. Yeah,

now they have all the best high speed trains and tech.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we did that. You're welcome. We won't do it.

Speaker 1: He can't do it here. No, there's just no way, No,

how could we.

Speaker 2: It's too hard, too big. So the last one, even

though Japan's massive, Yeah, the last one. This is the

gnarliest one. It didn't happen to Americans, but it did

happen to Allied soldiers, and it is. It's a good

time in Borneo. The Sonda Con pow camp and death

marches between nineteen forty four and nineteen forty five saw

quite a bit of human eating on the part of

the Japanese. This pow camp was initially set up to

make Allied POWs, mostly Australian and British boy Oi, I

don't want to do don't eat me? I eat me?

Speaker 1: Oh?

Speaker 2: Do I want to be eaten? They were used as

slave labor the POWs. Essentially, they were building a military

airfield near the town. It was a strategic refueling point

for Japanese aircraft, so they used the POW's as slaves

to build the airfield. As the Allies closed in in

nineteen forty four, they destroyed the airfield with bombing runs

Andjapanese commanders were like, fuck, dude, they're gonna get here soon,

and we don't really want them to have their POW's back.

Good bargaining chip, great slaves.

Speaker 1: We got to keep them, so be really fucked up

if they did these death marches. But it was only

for Native American soldiers.

Speaker 2: Everyone else that get to hang out.

Speaker 1: They just really knew their history with the Trail Tears.

Speaker 2: You'll survive it.

Speaker 1: You've done it before, all you win talkers.

Speaker 2: Let's go so and I look like a nip. It's

the worst line in film history, Like the worst line. No,

you don't, and they'll know immediately.

Speaker 1: I was gonna do like a racial slur and say

eat my baby, like it didn't go eat my baby

when you did the Aussie accent. But I passed it. Yeah,

you got the nip in though.

Speaker 2: I did. It sounds worse until you remember the Japanese

on their island Nippon. So it's to me it's like

brit But I guess it was a slur. But either way,

it's a line from the movie Wind Talkers.

Speaker 1: I leave the Japanese slurs to Clint Eastwood in Grantina. Yeah, yeah, yeah, were.

Speaker 2: They even Japanese. Was there a single Japanese like.

Speaker 1: Character in that way in Detroit?

Speaker 2: Hard to say no, But weren't they Korean or something?

Speaker 1: I think they were. But you kind of grip everyone

together when you're old.

Speaker 2: He does, certainly he was in Korea. So the camp

was evacuated in nineteen forty five. The POWs were made

to go on a series of three death marches. The

survivors were taken inland about one hundred and sixty miles

through dense jungle. POWs were obviously forced to carry all

the heavy loads, including Japanese supplies. This despite the fact

that they were completely malnourished and barely getting fed by

the end of the war. Out of about twenty four

hundred people who were at this pow camp, six survived.

It's probably, I mean, it was a near one hundred

percent fatality rate. It was certainly the worst thing that

happened to Australia.

Speaker 1: Just said six survive. It's not one hundred.

Speaker 2: Percent, said nearly one hundred percent. So these death marches

heavily featured cannibalism, both because the Japanese were trying to

fuck with their prisoners to make sure nobody tried anything.

And also because again they had they had food, the

Japanese did. They just wanted They were just sick fucks

at that point, like they were just like they were

like Danny McBride and this is the end, you know

what I mean. They were just like, dude, fuck it,

we're cannibals now, like the world's ending. We're cannibals now.

Fuck it. Well, let's just go full villain mode. Let's

just go full evil. We didn't give a shit.

Speaker 1: Now. Did the prisoners at each other as well?

Speaker 2: No, not, to my knowledge, were forced to.

Speaker 1: I always wondered, with the Holocaust and the concentration camps,

if some of the Jewish prisoners got desperate enough that

they had each other.

Speaker 2: Probably, probably it probably happened. I would be, it would be.

It would be impossible to rule that out right.

Speaker 1: There has to be documentation of that.

Speaker 2: Even if there isn't to say it happened to zero

times in a time when people were starving and desperate,

somebody did it. I don't, but I don't blame them

unless they murdered the person to do it.

Speaker 1: Right, Well, you need you know, somebody croaks, they die,

you gotta cook them up. Pretty quick.

Speaker 2: Real, it's not good meat before the meat gets spoiled. Yeah,

it's not good meat. Like if you saw your steak

right before it was slaughtered and it was like a

cow that was just like just like some malnourished like

her like labored breathing. You're like, I I'll just have

this caesar salad. Think I'm good. Think I'm good on

that cow?

Speaker 1: What's the caesar salad in this situation?

Speaker 2: For the Holocaust jungle leaves, Oh, for the Holocaust grass,

I guess that'll fuck it?

Speaker 1: Know.

Speaker 2: Uh So the cannibalism on these marches again, the Japanese

did not need to do it. They were just going

full damn mcbriden and this is the end, just like, hah,

fuck it, it's the end of the world. We're fucking cannibals.

Speaker 1: Just watch that movie. No, okay, it's just.

Speaker 2: A perfect example to me, like because he literally just

pops out and he goes, yeah, what's up with cannibals? Now?

Speaker 1: I saw that in theaters. I don't remember it very well. Okay,

it's been a while, it's been over a decade.

Speaker 2: It's the same scene where he talks about how uh

Channing Tatum is his gimp, gotcha?

Speaker 1: I know it's on Netflix, I think so. I was like,

he must have just watched it.

Speaker 2: No, no, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 1: Well, well i'm fresh on the brain.

Speaker 2: That seen is fresh in the brain, because I probably

watched that YouTube clip like a week or two ago.

But the movie as a whole.

Speaker 1: No.

Speaker 2: So again, this was not due to hunger, or at

least not solely to hunger. It was often ordered by

officers to fuck with the prisoners, and it involved both

dead and living victims. Guards began first eating dead POWs,

bodies of people who died from disease or beatings. You know.

They butchered them up, ate them, cooked them in mess

pots and ate them in front, cooked them and ate

them in front of the other POWs. I guess the

Japanese did start with not the POWs, but then they

were like, dude, fuck these guys and just started eating them.

The guards would first every day they would find like

the sickest guy holding up the whole line, barely walk

and just kill him, bayonet him, not gonna waste a

bullet on him, Bayonet him, and then carve him up,

cook him.

Speaker 1: He's a kebab, eat.

Speaker 2: Him However, this sort of proved to be a little

inefficient unless they were like totally on death doorstep. Because

it's hot, it's humid, you don't have salt. The meat's

just not gonna keep if you slaughter the whole body.

Speaker 1: Right, so you just kind of him off piece by piece.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they started doing. They would start tying

POW's to trees, cut a leg off, and then that

person for the next couple days would be there walking

meat storage and like you know, they stop for the

day time to a tree. Again, let's chop off an arm.

I'm gonna eat an arm today.

Speaker 1: Gotta think you're staring with arms because legs, they at

least will be able to walk. Yeah, yeah, you know,

want to inconvenience yourself.

Speaker 2: So they would essentially have the.

Speaker 1: Ears, maybe a nose. Arms don't need the arms, and

cheek some cheek. I mean you can cut some shoulder.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ass well, as might hurt the walking acs

and legs will probably.

Speaker 1: Last, but they wouldmagine to be tender good meat if

it's the shoulder, because that's what pork shoulder, pork butt

is r shoulder.

Speaker 2: So they would essentially just cut a piece off every

day of these guys, and but they'll keep them alive

so that the rest of the meat would still be

fresh and they could cut off another piece the next

day until that guy was fucking dead. Rinse and repeat

with a ship time and again. Six people survived out

of the thousands of people on these death marches. Hearts

and livers were removed and eaten raw or cooked for

quote unquote again medicinal benefits. This constantly happened in front

of other POWs. They would literally turkey leg it, like

you said earlier, in front of the other POWs, to

be like I want to try and run, you want

to try and grab my rifle? Look at this. That

wouldn't sway me though, That would actually inspire me more

to either go down swinging or get the fuck out

of there.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not gonna mentally defeat me. That's just gonna

inspire me to take a swing.

Speaker 2: Yeah, because hopeful hack hope is the only thing that

would keep you from rebelling, right, Like, maybe I can

just keep my head down in desperation. Yeah, Like, maybe

I can just keep my head down and get through this.

But if they're just using a guy as a rotisserie chicken.

Speaker 1: If you're being a dick, it's gonna motivate me. That's

how you motivate an American pettiness.

Speaker 2: Well, these were rossies.

Speaker 1: That's how you motivate. I mean, if there's ever a

group of people that need to be inspired, it's all I.

Speaker 2: Think out of the entire Anglo world, Australians are the

most similar to Americans.

Speaker 1: There are a lazy cousins.

Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 1: They're rough, they don't have any driver ambition. That's why

they hang out down under it.

Speaker 2: But they're rough and tumbles they are.

Speaker 1: I mean, they've getten to a scrap. But they love

to drink, they love to fight. They don't really like

doing anything else.

Speaker 2: Now, that was my favorite. That's my favorite thing about Austin.

When you go out, which I don't anymore, there's so

many you run into Australians. This is like a popular

vacation spot for Australians.

Speaker 1: Because all they know about America is like New York,

LA and Texas pretty much. So like we'll go to Texas.

I did, boys.

Speaker 2: I did meet a couple of Assis in New Orleans

two once they were I think, you know, they knew

enough about that to be like, oh this guy see

go see New Orleans. I can't do it right now.

I don't know the Aussie and me right now.

Speaker 1: Oh baby, ate mod dingo. I know I did it wrong.

It's okay, No, I mean that was on purpose.

Speaker 2: Oh a baby. So a lot of times when a

pow would die too. The Japanese like, oh, cool meat.

We don't have to chop off Rick's arm today. We

can keep that meat fresh for tomorrow. So they chop

that guy up. They eat some of it, but you know,

you don't eat so much in a day. He don't

have so much barbecue. You get full, get the itis,

You gotta keep marching. It's hard. So they would put

it into packs, put it into their supply packs. And

as I mentioned earlier, they were not the ones carrying

the supply packs. So all of a sudden, you're carrying

your friend Steve's meat for your horrific captors to eat later.

Speaker 1: Just make him a jerk he or something easier to

carry in packs.

Speaker 2: You haven't. You got the fire, you can smoke it, you.

Speaker 1: Dry it out. It's a whole process. Yeah, probably takes

a little longer.

Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

Speaker 1: But you're gonna be able to carry more.

Speaker 2: Also, true, shrinks it up, makes it better surviving POW's

All six of them also said they witnessed guards eating

the brains of freshly killed victims, often in front of.

Speaker 1: Steel their memories.

Speaker 2: The other Yeah, often in front of the other POWs

to fuck with them. So they'd just be like pulling

a brain out of a guy's skull while other POWs

are watching, to be like, yeah, that'd.

Speaker 1: Be kind of sweet.

Speaker 2: Though.

Speaker 1: If you best hit somebody and ate their brains, you

got all their knowledge.

Speaker 2: That's how it should work.

Speaker 1: Should work that way.

Speaker 2: I don't know why it doesn't.

Speaker 1: He's someone's brains. All of a sudden, you can speak

four different languages.

Speaker 2: You know what their wife looks like naked.

Speaker 1: You know how to please her. She's a widow. Maybe

she's freshly a widow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know all

the right moves.

Speaker 2: No, lock her down, know everything to say to her.

Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what how do you know that? Wow? It's

like that is my favorite flower.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like fate that you were sent here.

Speaker 1: Oh no, I killed innate your husband.

Speaker 2: His brain and specifically, and now I know the key

to your heart, and the guards would often brag to

the other POW's like, hey, I hate your buddy. He

tastes like shit.

Speaker 1: Don't worry Rob, when you die, I won't eat you.

Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 1: Definitely not your brains. Don't want your brains. Have no

use for your brain.

Speaker 2: Wow, Okay you want all these history facts up there.

I hope you eat my brain and it gives you

my ad D.

Speaker 1: Don't need that. Although with that, just balance out the autism.

Speaker 2: Baby, who knows you get normal?

Speaker 1: Just yeah, when people talk about speedballs, they just like,

do a shit ton of weed, shit ton of coke?

Could just they're back to normal. It's like, why aren't

you just not doing anything?

Speaker 2: It's so much work too.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of money to get nowhere, the

same effect of being sober.

Speaker 2: It's like sprinting in a circle. It's a point.

Speaker 1: Yeah when in coke. Okay, I guess sure.

Speaker 2: But yeah, that is the stories I have today. And again,

like I said, there were a fair amount of and

these weren't even all the ones, but you know, it

was about an hour's worth.

Speaker 1: Uh.

Speaker 2: There were a fair amount of stories about Japanese cannibalism.

Most of it, though, went unrecorded, because why would it.

The evidence isn't really there. You just ate a guy

and then buried him. There's probably no witnesses to most

of it. But to me, the most damning thing is

that the Japanese Army had to send out a whole

ass order to everyone to be like, stop aiding people more.

Speaker 1: Serial killers should eat people. Seems like an easy way

to dispose of the body.

Speaker 2: I think it's not. It's like one hundred and eighty

to two hundred and fifty pounds of meat or use

if you're killing women, like one hundred to one hundred

and thirty.

Speaker 1: But in the fraser you're good for the winner.

Speaker 2: That's not that's keeping the evidence at that point.

Speaker 1: Eventually though, no true, unless they start doing going through

your your sewer system and finding fecal matter.

Speaker 2: Yeah, they could probably test your shit for human remains.

Speaker 1: No doubt. Actually, the easiest way is to just live

in the Everglades and you just throw bodies for the

alligators to child.

Speaker 2: Oh, they'll never find anything.

Speaker 1: Or of course you feed them to the pigs that too.

Speaker 2: Those pigs will take it down.

Speaker 1: Bring a full circle real fucking fast.

Speaker 2: But yeah, that's Uh, that's my episode today on how

the Japanese eight Allied soldiers in World War Two and

not because they were hungry.

Speaker 1: But they wanted to send the message.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and that message was something everyone already knew, we're crazy.

There was another thing, like I just got like random

tidbits of stuff too in this episode that weren't with cannibalism,

but just like showed how fucking wild the Japanese were.

Like there were reports of like American sailors on ships

that were getting Kama Kazi bombed, and like there were

reports of like sailors looking up and seeing seeing like

the Kama Kazi pilot like waving at them as they

were coming straight fucking down at the ship.

Speaker 1: Why not. It's like everybody that owns a jeep they

have that little jeep wave.

Speaker 2: Yeah, put a little duck in your And then they

ram another car and then the jeep owner gets out

and vouch it. The other jeep owner gets out and

vouches that it was the Superaru driver's fault.

Speaker 1: Always was. Yeah, I mean, if it's going to be

a super Roo, it's gonna be a lesbian, right, Yeah,

we know lesbians can't drive.

Speaker 2: I think lesbians love wranglers too.

Speaker 1: Though super ru is typically the joke. I know, I know,

it's actually a joke. My mom told me it's one

of the first jokes I heard when I was a child.

She's like, Yeah, the only people that drive superos lesbians.

Speaker 2: It's pretty accurate. I wish I was like a billionaire

so I could just troll like lesbian friend.

Speaker 1: Bouche drives the super Uo. He's a lesbian.

Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he kind of has a lesbian haircut. He did.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if he still does now you've

seen him since he cut his mulet off.

Speaker 2: Yeah. True. And he has sex with a woman, real

lesbian behavior.

Speaker 1: Very lesbian. Yeah, and he doesn't use his penis.

Speaker 2: A lot of it's all strep. A lot of smoke

on that, A lot of smoke on boushe haircut, Subaru

focks a woman.

Speaker 1: Yeah, lesbian lesbian.

Speaker 2: Uh, that's all I got for today. What'd you learn?

Speaker 1: I learned your down bad. You got a big gulp

right now full of tequila. Yeah, and it's because you

had to spew out this horrific information.

Speaker 2: I mean, I have a big golp full tequia because

I don't want to refill it in the middle of

the episode. If I'm drinking beer, I can just crack

a fucking beer.

Speaker 1: If you have a big gulp full of tequila because

you have an alcohol problem, and that's fine.

Speaker 2: I don't have an alcohol fine, I have an alcohol hobby.

Speaker 1: You're coming up on forty this week. Yeah. In fact,

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forty feel great, I feel very healthy.

Speaker 1: You're having a midlife crisis and it shows.

Speaker 2: I just started, like actually exercising again, not going for

the odd run.

Speaker 1: And why are you running? Who you're running from? What problems?

Speaker 2: All of them? Just forty Running's.

Speaker 1: Pointless, you know, start doing like ultra marathons.

Speaker 2: No, I didn't like forty. I like running. I want

to do I want to run get into tennis league again,

and I can't get can't it run off the court

in the first second. Well, I'm running on treadmills now.

Speaker 1: I'll play tennis with you. Okay, I've never really played tennis,

played tennis like five times in my life. I still

think I can compete.

Speaker 2: Oh, you certainly can't.

Speaker 1: I was taught by my Hungarian roommate in college.

Speaker 2: This would be your best opportunity of the last ten years,

because I'm in the worst conditioning shape I've ever been in.

But you won't. You're not gonna get any first service in.

You're gonna try to hit it hard. You're eventually gonna

have to lob it, and I'm just gonna smash a

fucking backhand.

Speaker 1: Dude, what if I have the serve of an adonnis?

Speaker 2: You don't. I'm sure. I'm sure you can hit it hard.

You're not getting it in.

Speaker 1: We'll get it in, dude. It's just form. How hard

is that? Take my golf swing? Once I get it down,

it's over before you do that.

Speaker 2: The same thing about golf.

Speaker 1: I just said that, Yeah, how hard is golf? Not

very Sometimes it feels like it's not that hard. Other

times it feels really hard. We're gonna get it together, though,

We're gonna break eighty at some point during this unemployment phase.

I've done it several times. It's attainable. The game's there.

I just gotta put my mind do.

Speaker 2: It, gotta get it all together in the same.

Speaker 1: Yeah, team, it's the put in. It's really the fucking

Anything inside thirty forty yards right now is killing me.

I'll drive it three ten and have forty yards and

I'll just I'll hit a green in regulation would be

like fifty feet, not four feet.

Speaker 2: So that sounds fixable. Don't drive it three hundred yards,

don't put it within forty, put it within eighty. And

then no, it sounds like you're better from eighty than for.

Speaker 1: It's better from forty. We just got to figure out

the phot Okay, all right, we'll get there fair enough.

Who today's hitler? Today's hitler, I'm gonna say, isn't the

Japanese actually, because they saved my dad's life?

Speaker 2: Fair enough?

Speaker 1: In the roundabout way.

Speaker 2: Is it George Bush for abandoning and and bandoning his comrades?

Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's hw staying alive, okay, because of

all the terrible things he did around the world through

the Central Intelligence Agency.

Speaker 2: If he had any honor, he'd have been eating.

Speaker 1: Yeah, go down with the ship body, heah, body.

Speaker 2: Heah, body, that's all I got for today on Japanese

eating people for fun basically in World War two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1: I don't want to cover it now.

Speaker 2: It's stupid, No, it's horrible.

Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about it now. And too deep,

too close to the elephant.

Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that's all I got.

Speaker 1: And how do you eat an elephant?

Speaker 2: One by a time?

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