Dave Scott

Walter Sterling is joined by UFO expert and Spaced Out Radio host Dave Scott to dissect Jay Stratton’s explosive memoir, Out of the Shadows. Stratton—the former senior US intelligence official who co-founded the military's UAP investigation program—claims the US government and defense contractors have spent 80 years covering up non-human craft, recovered Roswell bodies, and secret reverse-engineering programs.

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Speaker 1: Dave Scott, lost in space, the other side of midnight.

Speaker 2: Danger, Walter Sterling, danger.

Speaker 1: So much excitement. I'm eating corn chips. So much excitement

about Out of the Shadows by Jay Stratton. So much

excitement about this. What are some of the revelations you've

heard that make you raise your eyebrow, Dave Scott?

Speaker 2: There was.

Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's the fact that he brought up Roswell,

you know, as as you know, Roswell is a big

mainstay in everything that we do. I mean, if we

want to learn the mothership of what's happened in the

UFO community within. with the hidings and what the U.S.

government may have, what they may not have. It begins

and ends with Roswell. And allegedly he saw paperwork that

alleges that there were bodies recovered from Roswell as well

as the craft. He also made statements that a company

like Lockheed Martin and their Skunk Works program actually has

about 12 aircraft of non-human origin in their possession. I

thought that was very interesting as well regarding, you know,

where are they located? Are they at 29 Palms in California?

Are they at Area 51? Are they on the East Coast,

maybe near Wright-Patterson Air Force Base? We really don't know.

But there's a lot of revelations that have been met that,

you know, that he may have brief precedence on this

and that the precedence are in the know of the

UFO subject. And he also clearly defines, in my opinion,

that there is a difference between what we are being

seen and what we are being shown, and that usually

that means that You know, we got to get away

from seeing the UAPs, the man-made objects, and get into

trying to bring this subject more forward. But that being said,

we're not going to get any of that information because

it's too, once in his book, it's too tied up secretly.

It's too high up the top secret chain in order

to bring it out to the public.

Speaker 1: Dave Scott. UFO expert, UAP expert, metaphysicist, host of Spaced

Out Radio, great website, spacedoutradio.com. Every one of his shows

ever is on YouTube. Dave, listen to Jay Stratton, and

I want to hear your reactions.

Speaker 4: Both the defense contractor community and the government have a

craft of non-human origin. There is an ongoing program to

capture and reverse engineer this technology.

Speaker 2: And really, we're in a secret Cold War race to

do that.

Speaker 4: People who have had this 80-year monopoly on the topic

believe that the secret is so intense... that the American

people cannot handle it. I believe that there may be

aspects of this that are so intense that they can't

share it, but they can share with the American people

the basic fact that we are not alone, that people

can handle that. I worked on several efforts to do this,

and it culminated when I had access to a nuclear

submarine that I could put out off the East Coast,

and I had a P-3, a Navy submarine hunting with

a lot of different equipment on it, and I parked

it out there to try and capture information data on

this UAP, and it worked. On their very first mission,

a UAP appeared and the P3 worked to collect and

data was collected on that mission. I got a phone

call from two flag officers, two different admirals and a

commander who was their senior intelligence officer. And they said, Jay,

we've seen it with our own eyes.

Speaker 2: So these guys are the cream of the crop.

Speaker 4: And they saw UAP phase in, was their own words,

over the training building on the compound. And it just

disappeared as fast as it was there. Then the rest

of the story or the more important part of the

story is in order to really understand that information, I

needed to get it into the intelligence record.

Speaker 2: So I had to get them debriefed.

Speaker 4: They came to the Pentagon and a senior officer, someone

senior to them, someone who I believe is involved in

this legacy program, this historic coverup, the hidden hand, as

I call it in the book, intercepted them and convinced

them that their reputations are on the line if they

make this report.

Speaker 2: And they didn't make the report.

Speaker 1: That's Jay Stratton, author of Out of the Shadows. Dave

Scott from Canada, an expert on all UFO things. How

do you feel about what Jay just said?

Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it is a new report that we

hadn't heard before in regards to the P-3 Orion and

the submarine. I do question a couple of things, though.

Was this in a military training area? If it was,

like he stated, could that not have been something that

is more humane? You know, that is one of the

big questions that we have. You know, there have been

a lot of reports recently that Chinese drones have been

spotted over Luke Air Force Base. So we do know

that with drone technology, the way it is taking off recently,

you know, and I hate to use this word, the

benefits that it has provided the military community is It

makes sense that this could be some sort of spying

area that they were trying to pick up, maybe coming

from some adversary's cargo ship that is dressed like a

cargo ship, but really is an intelligence gathering craft. I'm

a little hesitant to say that it is a UFO.

And once again, we hear the same thing about somebody

from a legacy program studying down the information. Here would

have been my follow-up question to this. How come you're

allowed to speak about it now? Because the reason why

I would have followed up with that question is because

when somebody like Jay Stratton or Lou Elizondo or any

of these people writing books about this subject from deep

within actually come out and state this, their book has

to have approval from numerous intelligence agencies and military agencies

in the Pentagon. It's not just like a be-all, tell-all

about this is what I saw. They need approval to

say that. So why is it clear now that they

say that, comparatively when this report was filed and apparently shuttered,

that they couldn't talk about it then?

Speaker 1: You and I are doing actual radio with Dave Scott,

a Canadian, expert on UFOs, UAPs. We're listening to Jay Stratton,

who just came out with a book called Out of

the Shadows. His revelations about the aliens, flying saucers. It's

an explosive memoir by the most senior U.S. intelligence official

to investigate unidentified anomalous phenomena and non-human intelligent life. It's

filled with revelations. We have been going over them. And

let's take a listen to some more from Jay Stratton.

And get your reaction, Dave Scott.

Speaker 4: Throughout history, the secrets sometimes are so impactful to our

national security that steps have been taken to remove the

problem and the people. But I don't think he's seen it.

I think he's still being shielded from the truth. And

we have to work hard to bring the truth to

the president because the president that goes to the microphone

to tell the world we're not alone, That's a monumental moment.

I think China and Russia are both working on reverse engineering,

crafting non-human origin.

Speaker 2: Somebody's wrong.

Speaker 4: And I think that America is going to pay the

price if the truth doesn't win in this situation. The

world deserves the truth. I've briefed Congress numerous times. I

was one of the first to brief Congress on this

topic in the modern era in 2007 when I briefed

Senator Harry Reid. And I continued that through the rest

of the next 16 years until I left the government

and retired. The book, it puts everything in context and

it brings it together.

Speaker 2: It's evergreen.

Speaker 4: It covers UAP cases over U.S. military bases that haven't

been discussed yet. It gives you descriptions and details of

recovered craft. We don't know the intent. Sad for me

to say after 16 plus years of looking at this

for the government and 20 plus years of looking at it,

we do not know the intent.

Speaker 1: That's Jay Stratton, author of a brand new book called

Out of the Shadows, a high ranking U.S. government official,

access to aliens, spacecraft. And he's written about it. And

you and I are talking to Dave Scott. Dave, what's

your reaction to him saying, I don't think humans are

ready to see this?

Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I would agree with that.

And I agreed a lot with what his statement said,

that there seems to be a lot of pushback regarding

this subject, about how it comes out. Now, some of

the stories that have been passed around as to why

they are not releasing the UFO subject or intelligent life

subject is they believe many people may not be able

to handle it, whether it's people in general, whether it's religion,

whether it deals with depression, anxiety, whatever it could be.

I mean, there's a lot of ways that this is

going to change how everything gets outlooked moving forward in

life for all of us. And the question is, are

we ready for that? The other option to that, too,

is if they do have any sort of alien technologies

in their possession, which I do believe they do, you know,

With the reverse engineering programs that they have, they may

not want to give the public that information on what

they have. They may not want to allow us to

have the toys that they're trying to reverse engineer so

they can play with them to make better and stronger

and more capable military products moving forward as technology advances.

So I do believe that. One thing that I am

hesitant on and one thing that I've talked about on

my show prior is that I believe that the United States,

whether it's Russia, China, or whatever other country out there,

I believe that there is some sort of truth embargo

on this that they have all collaborated on, whether it's

through the UN or some sort of private dealing. And

the reason why I believe that is... I think somebody,

in order to upstage the United States, would have talked

about this already. One of the powerhouses would have come

out with this. I don't think that it is some

sort of Cold War going on with alien technology. I

think they all know. I think they've all made an

agreement that it's the United States taking the lead on this,

and that's why no other country has really come out

about it.

Speaker 1: Is that why the president created Space Force in his

last term?

Speaker 3: Could be. You know, there's still a lot of question

about that. Here's one thing we don't know. We know

there are thousands of satellites up in space. What we

don't know is how many of those satellites are pointed outward,

away from Earth, to see what is coming here, what isn't,

to see, you know, that it's not all about asteroids

and meteors that could come crashing to Earth. and cause

planet extinction. I don't see that being the case at all.

What I do wonder often is whether or not they

are coming here to get pictures of these craft, to

get some sort of understanding of where they're coming from.

How many signals do we actually get from other craft,

maybe other planets? There's a lot of secrets that are

still out in space that we do not know about.

And I find that to be something that would make

me curious. And I think there's a lot more secrets

regarding that. And that includes Space Force and what they're

looking for.

Speaker 1: Do you think any of those satellites are focused outward?

Speaker 2: Oh, yes.

Speaker 3: Probably dozens of them, if not more. And why wouldn't they?

If we're picking up signals, because remember a couple of

weeks ago, we talked about that there was a signal

from another star system that we.

Speaker 2: Had picked out.

Speaker 3: Right. And prior to that, and prior to that, when

Donald Trump started back in March, April, talking about disclosure,

I had said to you, the easiest way that they

could get out of this is by saying, we found

another signal. We found a signal that we couldn't figure out. Overall,

that's all tied together.

Speaker 2: Yes.

Speaker 1: The Truth About Non-Human Intelligence, Out of the Shadows, written

by Jay Stratton. Overall, from what you've heard about the book,

what you've heard about Jay, it is determined to uncover

the truth. Stratton co-founded the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System. the

first official U.S. government program to investigate UAPs since the

closure of the Air Force's Project Blue Book. Confronted by

institutional secrecy, Stratton learned that there is a deeply hidden

UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that has been

covering up the existence of non-human intelligence life for 80 years,

keeping the truth from the public, Congress, and even Presidents.

These powerful gatekeepers do not want Stratton to bring about disclosure.

Risking everything, Stratton relentlessly pursued his investigation while informing Congress

of his findings. Are you aware of that? Do you

believe that?

Speaker 3: Well, I believe some of it. I do believe that

his findings are probably truthful. I also believe that he

wants the American public to know. I think he's a

good patriot. You know, I will say this, though, as

you and I discussed last night on the show, because

you asked if I had planned on interviewing him or

reaching out. And I said that the majority of people

in my field don't get to talk to to these

type of people because they're they're publicists try and stay

away from the UFO crowd. because they know the UFO

crowd is already going to buy their books, and they

want to get the message out to a more non-traditional public.

And one of the things about that is going on

on X right now is how many podcasters and YouTube

channels have requested interviews and have been denied interviews from Mr.

Stratton and his PR team through his publishing company. So

I find that very interesting as well, that media outlets

are screaming mercy of why they can't get interviews with

this gentleman about the topic.

Speaker 1: Dave Scott, Spaced Out Radio, SpacedOutRadio.com, terrific shop at SpacedOutRadio.com.

Any final thoughts about Jay Stratton's book, Dave?

Speaker 3: Final thoughts, I would say it's a good read. If

you're getting to know this topic, you wanna learn more

from somebody who was from the inside, I would add

it to my library. I really would. If you're looking

at it as a book that's going to push the

disclosure movement forward and a lot more, this isn't the book.

You've gotta read it for what it is, which is

a lot of interesting information that could get you to

change your mind that the truth is still out there.

Speaker 1: Dave Scott Spaced Out Radio with Walter Sterling on the

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