Cardinals Cover 2 – QB Carson Beck On Confidence, Competition And What's Next

Ep. 1015 - No position has generated more discussion this offseason than quarterback, and few players have been at the center of it more than the Cardinals third-round pick, Carson Beck. Craig Grialou and Dani Sureck discuss both Beck the person, whose confidence and humility have stood out in their early interactions with the former Georgia and Miami quarterback, and Beck the player, whose 55-game college career suggests he won't be fazed by the NFL stage. Then, hear from Beck himself as he joins Paul Calvisi to talk about his football journey, college career, and expectations heading into his rookie season in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: It's time for some quarterback talk, and one quarterback in particular,

Speaker 1: got Danny surrec with my Bird gang, and the topic

Speaker 1: is Carson Beck, how we got here, how he's doing

Speaker 1: since he's been here, and what's next. It's Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: So, Danny, if I was to ask you the one

Speaker 1: position group that was talked about the most this off season,

Speaker 1: what position group would that be? It's quarterback absolutely. I mean,

Speaker 1: it's typically the quarterback because of the nature of the position,

Speaker 1: but this off season in particular the uncertainty with Jacobe Brissett,

Speaker 1: newcomers and Gardner Minshew and Carson Beck, and then you've

Speaker 1: got a returning Keton Slovas. But as they say, if

Speaker 1: you don't have a quarterback, you don't really give yourself

Speaker 1: a chance come the regular season.

Speaker 3: I don't know if it's intentional or accidental. I mean,

Speaker 3: you're forgetting the start of this conversation, which was moving

Speaker 3: on from Kyler Murray in the off season. So that's

Speaker 3: where it all starts. Regardless of whether or not there

Speaker 3: was any so called drama with Brissette or whether or

Speaker 3: not the Cardinals are going to draft Carson Back or

Speaker 3: bring in Gardner Minshew, quarterback was going to be the

Speaker 3: biggest position discussed when the Cardinals decided to move on

Speaker 3: from Murray.

Speaker 1: You bring up Kyler. It's funny because I had not

Speaker 1: thought about that because even though it was only in March,

Speaker 1: which is not that long ago, but the conversation, the noise,

Speaker 1: what's been and what's been said since then, is always

Speaker 1: focused on those four guys currently in the room, or

Speaker 1: the three until you brought in a Carson Beck in

Speaker 1: late April. But yeah, almost I have forgotten, for lack

Speaker 1: of a better word, about Kyler because he's not currently

Speaker 1: right now.

Speaker 3: That's how it should be, right, what's the point talking

Speaker 3: about Kyler Murray. I'm saying that because you're talking about

Speaker 3: quarterback being discussion in the off season, and if that's

Speaker 3: what you want to talk about, you need to go

Speaker 3: to the genesis of that conversation. But there's no point

Speaker 3: in harping on that he's on a new team. You've

Speaker 3: got four quarterbacks on this roster right now, and that's

Speaker 3: what the discussion should be.

Speaker 1: And is QB one. We don't know, at least don't

Speaker 1: know publicly who will be QB one. I'll say this

Speaker 1: as we focus specifically on Carson Beck himself. I find

Speaker 1: it interesting that michae Leffler during OTA has mentioned that

Speaker 1: what the game makes sense to Beck, and it's because

Speaker 1: he's been in that role for so many games played.

Speaker 1: Now there is a jump from college to the pro

Speaker 1: game and that's going to be an adjustment. But at

Speaker 1: least what we have seen so far, and it's been

Speaker 1: very limited during the open portion, it doesn't seem like

Speaker 1: this is too big for Carson Beck, at least right

Speaker 1: now before you get the pads on and everything else.

Speaker 3: I have a hard time having a definitive answer on that,

Speaker 3: just given what OTA's in mini camp was. I mean,

Speaker 3: for the majority of this offseason, he's been in a

Speaker 3: T shirt and shorts, now mentally, if he's understanding the playbug,

Speaker 3: that's great. That is half the battle. It's mental and physical,

Speaker 3: and it's hard to gauge physically how his arm looks

Speaker 3: in terms of the power of the strength, the accuracy,

Speaker 3: when half the time they didn't have pads on and

Speaker 3: all of the time there was no true pressure, no

Speaker 3: true pressure on him, no true pressure on the dbs

Speaker 3: with the receivers, no true pressure in the trenches. So

Speaker 3: but this is normal. Like you and I like you.

Speaker 3: You're normally a little more set in stone than I am.

Speaker 3: Early on. That's not something I can truly say until

Speaker 3: training camp. It's great to hear from coach. It makes

Speaker 3: sense given the amount of games Carson Beck has played

Speaker 3: in college, the amount of games he played in the

Speaker 3: SEC under the bright lights. But something that was very clear,

Speaker 3: and it wasn't explicitly said, but reading between the lines

Speaker 3: when we recently heard from offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett is

Speaker 3: patience with all rookie quarterbacks, not just back, but what

Speaker 3: he has seen in as many years across the league

Speaker 3: and understanding you can be a great quarterback in college.

Speaker 3: There is still a lot to learn when it comes

Speaker 3: to the pros, speed of the game, relaying the play

Speaker 3: call in a huddle, understanding the play call, understanding your options,

Speaker 3: and then decision making. Oh yeah, and you have to

Speaker 3: be accurate as well. And if you get hit, you

Speaker 3: gotta get up. So I'm a little more reserved and

Speaker 3: being so gung ho early on, just because he is

Speaker 3: a rookie. He hasn't fully seen everything, and he is

Speaker 3: still down on the depth chart right.

Speaker 1: Now, and that is very fair. It was asked of Hackett.

Speaker 1: You know, once upon a time, rookie quarterbacks were given

Speaker 1: to three four years before you had to make a

Speaker 1: decision or before you really knew, and you did preach patients.

Speaker 1: That's much harder these days because people want it yesterday,

Speaker 1: especially at the quarterback position. Now there's a difference when

Speaker 1: you have a first round quarterback versus a third round quarterback. Yet,

Speaker 1: based off all the stuff that we have been hearing

Speaker 1: this offseason, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of patients.

Speaker 1: Even though Beck was a Day two selection, might not

Speaker 1: have mattered when he was drafted because of the nature

Speaker 1: of the position and going back to removing yourself from

Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and then not knowing what you have with

Speaker 1: Chucoby Brissett and Gardner Minshew. All of that I think

Speaker 1: factors into where we are right now.

Speaker 3: That is the biggest factor is the Cardinals don't currently

Speaker 3: have a long term answer a quarterback. So a lot

Speaker 3: of this is my opinion hope. It's hope in having

Speaker 3: a young quarterback and hoping that with a low risk,

Speaker 3: high reward option that you end up on the high

Speaker 3: reward side of things. If the Cardinals had their long

Speaker 3: term anser at quarterback, there wouldn't be this, at least

Speaker 3: from what you see online, immense pressure, an insane sense

Speaker 3: of urgency. There resurgency in the NFL is that is

Speaker 3: just the reality of what the league has become these

Speaker 3: days when it comes to quarterbacks. The reality, though, is

Speaker 3: all these fans who want to see Carson Beck start

Speaker 3: from day one. That is such a slim chance. You

Speaker 3: can't say zero percent, but I'm talking from what my understanding,

Speaker 3: like point zero zero one percent chance he is starting

Speaker 3: week one. For all the reasons we've just listed now,

Speaker 3: Jacoby Burssett was at mandatory minicamp, did not participate in drills.

Speaker 3: Outside linebacker Josh Swett, it was similar and those two

Speaker 3: players were not at voluntary OT workouts, and Lafleur said

Speaker 3: when it came when it came to sweat, that sounded

Speaker 3: like a cautionary coaching decision just to keep his body

Speaker 3: safe since sweat wasn't out there those early phases that

Speaker 3: were voluntary. He was not willing to say the same

Speaker 3: for b SET. Is that an official holden? Maybe it

Speaker 3: was just one practice and he hasn't you know, he

Speaker 3: hadn't been back on the field. I'm waiting to see

Speaker 3: July twenty third because July twenty second is report day,

Speaker 3: So July twenty third when they are out on the

Speaker 3: field for the first time, because I would find it

Speaker 3: hard to believe that if a new deal or a

Speaker 3: restructured deal rather is coming four berseet, it probably won't

Speaker 3: happen between then. Just with players in front office staff

Speaker 3: going on vacation the one time of year they really can,

Speaker 3: that's when I'll truly know whether or not it's a

Speaker 3: holden or not.

Speaker 4: For SET.

Speaker 1: And remember those first four or five days of practice

Speaker 1: no different than what we have seen in OTAs in

Speaker 1: mini camp. There is a ramp up period before you

Speaker 1: put the pads on for the first time. And then

Speaker 1: we'll kind of figure out how that room shakes out

Speaker 1: with those four players. Hopefully there are four players in

Speaker 1: that room when the team does report on the twenty

Speaker 1: second and then step on the field on July twenty third.

Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from the man himself, the newest

Speaker 1: edition in that quarterback room, Carson Beck with Paul calvec.

Speaker 5: All Right, we chalked this up to a really good vibe.

Speaker 5: The last game in the Cardinals home stadium State Farm Stadium,

Speaker 5: Carson Beck was the Fiesta bal offensive MVP, leading a

Speaker 5: game winning drive, a game winning touchdown run. So it's

Speaker 5: got to spark some good memories, right, That's got to

Speaker 5: be qualify as starting off on the right foot with

Speaker 5: a brand new team after you were a third round

Speaker 5: pick of the Arizona Cardinals. Welcome to Arizona.

Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 5: What'd you make of your selection in terms of did

Speaker 5: you have an inkling did you have what were you

Speaker 5: thinking in terms of where everything was tracking? And were

Speaker 5: you surprised at all that you're sitting here in Cardinals gear.

Speaker 4: I mean, I truly had no idea where I was

Speaker 4: going to go. I mean, obviously through the process, you

Speaker 4: can you have a couple of ideas is of maybe here,

Speaker 4: maybe there. But truthfully, like I mean, there was zero expectation.

Speaker 4: I had really no idea. So I mean when when

Speaker 4: that phone rang, I mean I mean my heart was beating.

Speaker 4: I mean it was being fast. I was like, oh

Speaker 4: my gosh, like here we are. And obviously I was

Speaker 4: super excited to come to Arizona. I loved coach Laflora.

Speaker 4: I loved coach Hackett, I coach job, you know, all

Speaker 4: these guys. And then obviously there's so much talent. There's

Speaker 4: so much talent, and obviously it's a beautiful place as

Speaker 4: well to live.

Speaker 5: So you go back to what the beginning of the

Speaker 5: twenty fourth season, there was a las of speculation you

Speaker 5: were going to be the number one pick in the draft.

Speaker 5: So how ready do you feel for this moment? I

Speaker 5: mean six years in college right, some of the biggest games,

Speaker 5: biggest moments, I mean, high pressure moments in some ways,

Speaker 5: do you feel like a professional already? Considering the state

Speaker 5: of college football and nil and everything else, I gotta

Speaker 5: imagine you feel pretty ready to launch the next chapter

Speaker 5: your football career.

Speaker 4: Yeah. Again, I think the experience and the aims and

Speaker 4: the moments and the pressure and everything that you know,

Speaker 4: I've kind of been through and dealt with and you know,

Speaker 4: persevered through. I think it definitely readeres you. I mean

Speaker 4: me speaking about myself again, I would say that I'm

Speaker 4: ready again. I've played a lot of football, but there's

Speaker 4: always so much more to learn. There's always so much

Speaker 4: different ways that you can grow and continue to get

Speaker 4: better as a player. So yes, do I feel like

Speaker 4: I'm ready one hundred percent? But is there still more

Speaker 4: in the tank and more to learn and more to gain?

Speaker 4: One So keep that open mind.

Speaker 5: Did you share with the media you feel like maybe

Speaker 5: you're a little undervalued in this.

Speaker 4: Draft again at the end of the day, And you know,

Speaker 4: this is kind of what I've always said is regardless

Speaker 4: of where you go, regardless of where it is, you

Speaker 4: go in there with the right mindset, with with the

Speaker 4: right you know, mental fortitude, and go attack it. All

Speaker 4: I needed was opportunity. All I ever wanted was a chance,

Speaker 4: you know, to sit and sit in this seat to

Speaker 4: where you know, uh, I'll say obviously the cardinal logo

Speaker 4: since that's where I'm at, But one of the thirty

Speaker 4: two is all I wanted and all I ever needed,

Speaker 4: and just try to attack that each and every day

Speaker 4: and just put my best foot forward.

Speaker 5: You know, Mike Lafleur talked about watching your film, watching

Speaker 5: you run a pro style offense, reading defenses, going through

Speaker 5: your progressions. You know, what's your confidence level in that aspect?

Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm super confident in that type of offense,

Speaker 4: and you know how it's ran, and obviously it's probably

Speaker 4: a little bit different and maybe a little more upgraded,

Speaker 4: and it creates efficiency. You know, when you're able to

Speaker 4: go through progressions, when you're able to check in and

Speaker 4: out of plays, from running to pass, pass to run,

Speaker 4: and pass to pass run, all the different things that

Speaker 4: you can do based off of coverages and defenses. Obviously,

Speaker 4: defenses get better and better, you know as time goes

Speaker 4: and the talent only continues to get better as well.

Speaker 4: But there's so many smart minds in the game of football,

Speaker 4: and so many teams play copycat off of each other.

Speaker 4: You know that everybody wants to do what's working. Everybody

Speaker 4: wants to do these challenging things for the disguising and

Speaker 4: at the end of the day, this offense can attack

Speaker 4: so many different things, and when you're able to do that,

Speaker 4: you're obviously able to be efficient and that's really what

Speaker 4: you're trying to do on offense.

Speaker 5: Cardinals rookie Carson Beck is our guest. Where do you

Speaker 5: think all your big game experience, just all your experience period,

Speaker 5: right sec beyond the playoffs, where do you think is

Speaker 5: that's going to serve you best now that you're making

Speaker 5: the transition.

Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, and again I've had a ton of experience,

Speaker 4: but I believe the experience is nothing without the lessons

Speaker 4: learned from the experiences and then ultimately taking those lessons

Speaker 4: and applying them into whatever that might be to continue

Speaker 4: to grow and you know, continue to better yourself as

Speaker 4: a player, as a person, as a leader, and all

Speaker 4: these different facets of the game that it takes to

Speaker 4: be a quarterback in this league, right, there's so much

Speaker 4: from a mental side to the physical side to actually

Speaker 4: going out and getting it done in the in the

Speaker 4: big game, in the big moments, right you know, you

Speaker 4: talked about the FS and the last time that I

Speaker 4: was out here, and it's moments like that you know

Speaker 4: that you live for as a quarterback and that you

Speaker 4: work for. So those experiences, you know, you take the

Speaker 4: lessons that you've learned from them, and then you apply

Speaker 4: them and you continue to get better and ultimately you're

Speaker 4: ready through that.

Speaker 5: Did you learn something about yourself after the elbow injury?

Speaker 5: I saw where Mario crystal Ball said, only now are

Speaker 5: you getting to be one hundred percent with your throwing arm?

Speaker 5: And he cited your best ball is ahead of you.

Speaker 5: Those are his words. How tough was that when you

Speaker 5: suffered that elbow injury?

Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really tough. It was really tough, not

Speaker 4: only physically obviously not being able to throw a football

Speaker 4: for four months, but the mental side is the side

Speaker 4: that you know, it is really hard because this is

Speaker 4: all I've really ever done. Obviously I played other sports.

Speaker 4: I played baseball, I played basketball, But from the time

Speaker 4: I was a freshman in high school, really I knew

Speaker 4: that this is what I wanted to do, and I

Speaker 4: really committed my life to it. And you know, for

Speaker 4: the past ten years, really since that moment of Okay,

Speaker 4: I want to play football and I'm going to do

Speaker 4: everything that it takes to get there, I got that

Speaker 4: taken away from me. And you know, getting you know,

Speaker 4: what you love taking away from you is is hard,

Speaker 4: and you know, going through that, I think really gave

Speaker 4: me a newfound perspective on you know, the love for

Speaker 4: the game that that I have, and how grateful I

Speaker 4: was just for each and every opportunity, each every and

Speaker 4: every day to show up and go to work and

Speaker 4: you know, really just give one hundred percent and be

Speaker 4: consistent and just show up and be myself. So it

Speaker 4: definitely did a lot and for me as a person

Speaker 4: and also as a player.

Speaker 5: No, it's really well said. As we wrap it up here,

Speaker 5: I'm guessing one transition you won't have to make is

Speaker 5: being in the spotlight you mentioned. I mean, you big

Speaker 5: time recruit ever since freshman in high school all the

Speaker 5: way through six years a big time college football. I'm

Speaker 5: guessing you're you're used to all the spotlight and pressure

Speaker 5: that comes with the position, right, I'd.

Speaker 4: Say I'm pretty used to it by now. Again, it's

Speaker 4: it's not my favorite thing. Ever, It's obviously I love

Speaker 4: the game, and you know that's something that comes with it,

Speaker 4: so you you get comfortable and it and you get

Speaker 4: used to it. It's not something you ever asked for,

Speaker 4: but again, I feel like I am, you know, comfortable

Speaker 4: in it and understand what it takes to be there

Speaker 4: and be in that spotlight, and you know, thrive in

Speaker 4: that spotlight as well. So just always try to carry

Speaker 4: myself the right way and be myself and be genuine

Speaker 4: and then move from there.

Speaker 5: Really well done. We look forward to a more conversations, Carson.

Speaker 5: I it's gonna be a good feeling to have an

Speaker 5: elite tight end, right, you had brock Bowers once upon

Speaker 5: a time, and now Trey McBride, Right, that's gonna be

Speaker 5: good as well.

Speaker 4: I love me some tight ends. I'll say that. There

Speaker 4: you go, all.

Speaker 5: Right, thanks and welcome to Arizonaly.

Speaker 4: Thank you.

Speaker 1: Well. There might not be a brighter football spotlight than

Speaker 1: the NFL. And there is a difference, at least to me, Danny,

Speaker 1: between confidence and cockiness. I think sometimes players do straddle

Speaker 1: that line. But Carson strikes me as someone who is

Speaker 1: confident in his ability.

Speaker 3: He's played a lot of football, but I appreciate his

Speaker 3: humility and knowing he's a third round pick and knowing

Speaker 3: he comes into this room bottom bottom of the depth

Speaker 3: chart and understanding reality and that's what you want, right.

Speaker 3: It seems at least his priorities are football and understanding

Speaker 3: the playbook and wanting to give his best, be his

Speaker 3: best version to try and help the team win.

Speaker 1: And nothing is being handed to him or any of

Speaker 1: these rookies, even Jeremiah Love. Again, we're talking about OTAs

Speaker 1: in mini camp, but Jeremiah Love behind a Tyler Algier,

Speaker 1: Jase Besontes behind an Isaiah Adams, Carson Beck behind Keaton Slovas.

Speaker 1: So you have to show these coaches one that you

Speaker 1: are capable of knowing the playbook, what you're supposed to do,

Speaker 1: and then going out and execute it. Now do I

Speaker 1: think Carson Beck will move up that depth chart? Sure

Speaker 1: if he's shown that he has that execution that is

Speaker 1: required of the position. I don't have any problems with

Speaker 1: him or fear that he might not understand the playbook.

Speaker 1: I think he's been in offenses in college, whether in

Speaker 1: Georgia or Miami that does run some pro style. He

Speaker 1: has been under center, So that's not I don't think

Speaker 1: that's a question. It's going back to our original conversation.

Speaker 1: All right, the ball is snapped, someone's in your face,

Speaker 1: what do you do, how do you react? How do

Speaker 1: you respond? And then that will determine whether Carson Beck

Speaker 1: is truly that quarterback that potentially could see some time,

Speaker 1: maybe earlier then later.

Speaker 3: Barring anything crazy, I do see the reality of Carson

Speaker 3: Back working his way up the depth chart to being

Speaker 3: the number two quarterback. Not in the sense of knocking

Speaker 3: Gardner minshew, but I do think that there's a possibility

Speaker 3: where if the Cardinals find themselves late November early December,

Speaker 3: where if they are not competitive to the point of

Speaker 3: already being knocked out of the playoffs similar to last year,

Speaker 3: I could see a reality of if he's ready, putting

Speaker 3: back on the field and kind of seeing what you

Speaker 3: have in him and what the offense looks like with him.

Speaker 3: That's what I mean. I could see Back moving up

Speaker 3: the depth chart. I don't see him moving up the

Speaker 3: depth chart to be listed as the second string quarterback

Speaker 3: come Week one in September. I see this as a

Speaker 3: true reality of a round three quarterback really with probably

Speaker 3: any team across the league of it's gonna take a

Speaker 3: few months of getting those reps and really getting comfortable.

Speaker 1: There are exceptions we know. Russell Wilson did it as

Speaker 1: a third round pick in Seattle. Dak Prescott did it

Speaker 1: as a fourth round selection with the Cowboys, though he

Speaker 1: assumed that starter's role because of injury, not based off of.

Speaker 3: Performing multiple quarterbacks. Dak Prescott was not the number two quarterback.

Speaker 3: Kellen Moore was still there, Tony Romo was still there.

Speaker 3: I was still there.

Speaker 1: So again that's the exception, not the norm. And then

Speaker 1: something that you have said repeatedly, whether on this platform

Speaker 1: or Cardinals underground, you have to understand who else is

Speaker 1: on that field with the quarterback, who else is in

Speaker 1: that locker room with that quarterback. Players coaches don't care

Speaker 1: about twenty twenty seven, twenty eight. Who is going to

Speaker 1: give us the best chance to win Week one in

Speaker 1: Los Angeles against the Chargers. If you tell me that's

Speaker 1: Carson Beck, that's fine. But if that's a Trey McBride

Speaker 1: or Michael Wilson or Marvin Harrison junior, they want the

Speaker 1: best quarterback, not we need to see Carson Beck. They

Speaker 1: don't care about that part.

Speaker 3: That is personally when I see the discourse online of

Speaker 3: you have to start Carson Beck week one just to

Speaker 3: see you you have to start them early in the season,

Speaker 3: is not seeing the big picture. Players, coaches, front office.

Speaker 3: This is a win based league, a win based job,

Speaker 3: and coaches are coaching for their jobs every year. Players

Speaker 3: are playing for their jobs every year, whether that's with

Speaker 3: this team or another team around the league. You're not

Speaker 3: going to find somebody with the power to make a

Speaker 3: decision that's going to make a decision that's going to

Speaker 3: maybe jeopardize now. Risk will be taken, sure, and there's

Speaker 3: going to be nuance as we get through the season. Right,

Speaker 3: things that might make sense or not make sense now

Speaker 3: in June could be vastly different September, October, November. There's

Speaker 3: a lot of people to consider. Of course, Trey Mcbrian,

Speaker 3: Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison Junior want to have the best

Speaker 3: quarterback out there to help them succeed. Sure, from a

Speaker 3: personal standpoint of it's a business right, You're trying to

Speaker 3: show what you're capable of for your money to hid incentives,

Speaker 3: and they also want to win. These are professional athletes,

Speaker 3: Like the idea of tanking is is not something that

Speaker 3: even comes close to their minds as professional athletes. So

Speaker 3: I just I don't see that as reality whatsoever.

Speaker 1: And that's how players look at it versus how fans

Speaker 1: look at it, and both perspectives are okay. Just understand

Speaker 1: that you can't force something upon these players just because

Speaker 1: it serves your own interests. This is about Carson Beck

Speaker 1: in the time that we have been together with him,

Speaker 1: he does have the right mindset and that conversation he

Speaker 1: had with Paul again you brought it up, the humility

Speaker 1: that he shows knowing that he hasn't done anything despite

Speaker 1: his lengthy resume in college. Now he's on everyone else's level,

Speaker 1: fresh start, clean slate. What have you done for me?

Speaker 1: Can you prove to us as coaches in front office

Speaker 1: people that you are ready to be QB one whenever

Speaker 1: that may be. But I do like the fact that

Speaker 1: he's taking that mindset of okay, I need to prove

Speaker 1: it to maybe not to myself, but prove it to others, because,

Speaker 1: as we say, nothing gets handed to anyone. You might

Speaker 1: have a shorter leash or a longer leash base how

Speaker 1: you arrived here via the free agency or the draft,

Speaker 1: but bottom line is you have to be able to

Speaker 1: do it when you step on the lines on the

Speaker 1: football field.

Speaker 3: And best case scenario, this is truly all in boot point.

Speaker 3: Best case scenario. Things subtle with Jacoby Bressett and given

Speaker 3: the additions in the offensive line, given having arguably the

Speaker 3: best tight end in Trey McBride, to great receivers and

Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison junior Michael Wilson. Drafting Jeremiah Love in the

Speaker 3: first round, this could be an offense that could really

Speaker 3: do some damage and really make an impact in a

Speaker 3: way that they couldn't and didn't last year. So truly

Speaker 3: best case scenario. This all on moot point because the

Speaker 3: Cardinals are competitive and making a push for the playoffs

Speaker 3: late in the year.

Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we don't see Carson Beck at all in

Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and that would be a benefit, and

Speaker 1: that would be a positive.

Speaker 3: I think Cardinals are winning exactly. You don't want to

Speaker 3: change things up.

Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're winning, then you're not going to

Speaker 1: have that top five, top ten pick anyway. So again

Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of discussion, and I get it

Speaker 1: because of the quarterback position, but I do like what

Speaker 1: I'm hearing from Carson Becks specifically, and then what we

Speaker 1: hear from others, whether that's coaches or players about this

Speaker 1: new quarterback in the room. Again, we will see how

Speaker 1: it all plays out. Next stop though, or the next

Speaker 1: big indicator is training camp. Team reports July twenty second,

Speaker 1: first practice July twenty third, and then of course preseason,

Speaker 1: four preseason games with the Hall of Fame game coming

Speaker 1: up in early August, so we will see even before

Speaker 1: the regular season, we will see a lot I'm just

Speaker 1: going to go out on a limb, Danny say, we

Speaker 1: are going to see a lot of Carson packets.

Speaker 3: Not really going that far on the limb, right. You

Speaker 3: want to talk about competition, that's that's probably going to be.

Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll be a long competition, but

Speaker 3: that's a competition with Carson Beck and Keen Slovas. Are

Speaker 3: those preseason reps we have to get through camp to

Speaker 3: get an idea of one who's healthy going into camp,

Speaker 3: coming out of camp, and what Mike Laflora is going

Speaker 3: to want to do in his first year at the Helm,

Speaker 3: especially having this fourth, this extra preseason game, in terms

Speaker 3: of when or how often we will see starters on

Speaker 3: the field. Having that extra game, though, I'd imagine we

Speaker 3: will see a lot of Slovis and or back throughout

Speaker 3: the preseason.

Speaker 1: It is going to make preseason a little bit more bearable,

Speaker 1: I think, because we'll have something to pay attention to

Speaker 1: and obviously talk about afterwards, as opposed to having QB

Speaker 1: one set and just going in, Hey, when does week

Speaker 1: one start? Can we hit the fast forward button?

Speaker 3: And the first brief in the game is all centered

Speaker 3: around the great Larry Fitzgerald being enshrined forever and putting

Speaker 3: on that gold jacket for the first time.

Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good first week of August. A

Speaker 1: lot of that Spence and Canton for the Pro Football

Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and the induction of one Larry Fitzgerald.

Speaker 3: So much to do in Canton, Ohio. I truly cannot wait.

Speaker 1: You enjoy yourself.

Speaker 3: I'm going to hit all three restaurants twice.

Speaker 1: I expect reviews then when you come back to Arizona.

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Amro, producer Coddy Fincher for Danny Sirek,

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