Cardinals Underground - In The Offseason: Predictions A La Underground

With training camp just a couple of weeks away, Craig Grialou, Darren Urban and Dani Sureck figure it is a great time to break out some predictions for the upcoming season. Are they Nostradamuses? Is that even a word? Ah, regardless, whether they are bringing up Walter Nolen III, Trey McBride, BJ Ojulari or even Fitz, these are the things to bank for now and break out the shame sticks when and if they are wrong.

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Speaker 1: Touched down Tray McBride.

Speaker 4: Heck of a play by the all world tight end.

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Speaker 4: How much money are we talking here, Danny? You know what?

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Speaker 3: I think that I would not quit my job.

Speaker 5: I don't think i'd quit my job, mostly because I

Speaker 5: think I would go crazy with nothing to do every day.

Speaker 5: I might go to Darren and say part time, but

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Speaker 3: I would not quit my job. You would quit your job.

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Speaker 5: How long would I work? I don't know. I could

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Speaker 3: This is one of those ones where Danny says, I

Speaker 3: wouldn't quit and then the first time she gets frustrated

Speaker 3: with something like peace out.

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Speaker 2: But having this sports almanac or knowing what happens in

Speaker 2: the future, So how about we come up with some

Speaker 2: things that we hope to manifest come true for the

Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals or the National Football League in twenty twenty six, with.

Speaker 5: One request that if at least I'm super wrong, please

Speaker 5: don't click this and remind me. But if I'm super.

Speaker 3: Right, give Daniel's let's all remind everybody that when we

Speaker 3: did this last year, Danny was quick to tell us

Speaker 3: all how right she was and how wrong we were.

Speaker 2: So well, that's what you do when you're right, yep,

Speaker 2: and everyone else is wrong.

Speaker 3: And I just want to clarify something. You said, things

Speaker 3: we hope would happen, like I don't know if I

Speaker 3: necessarily hope, but what you think, what I think you think?

Speaker 2: Okay, that's a better word, what we think happens in

Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Some predictions, if you will, who wants

Speaker 2: to go first?

Speaker 3: I have a bonus one? Could I do a bonus one?

Speaker 2: I believe on the rundown it says each of the

Speaker 2: three come.

Speaker 4: Up with two. Yeah. Yeah, but I had all of

Speaker 4: a sudden, there's a bonus one.

Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying I'm going to predict that number

Speaker 3: eleven gets retired this year.

Speaker 4: Way to go out only, thank you?

Speaker 3: Okay, I'll do I'll do my first one. Uh. My

Speaker 3: first prediction is that Will Johnson will have at least

Speaker 3: five interceptions.

Speaker 5: I love it.

Speaker 3: I think I think it's burning at him that he

Speaker 3: didn't get any last.

Speaker 4: Year, he was so close had one.

Speaker 3: Right, and I think that that bugs him. I think

Speaker 3: I like Will, He's a really good kid. He definitely

Speaker 3: wants to build his brand and to build your brand

Speaker 3: and to be the kind of all pro Pro Bowl guy,

Speaker 3: you're going to need some of those stats, and I

Speaker 3: think he's going to be ultra focused to get that done.

Speaker 3: So I think and and and I think at this point,

Speaker 3: we all know that he is going to be CB one,

Speaker 3: so he's going to be out there, so you know,

Speaker 3: so if he gets five interceptions, that also means he

Speaker 3: stays healthy, which I'm also predicting that he mostly stays

Speaker 3: healthy seventeen games. If you can get fourteen fifteen games,

Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not naive. Guys are going to miss

Speaker 3: a game here and there. Possibly you don't want him

Speaker 3: missing more than that, but I think if he's on

Speaker 3: the field, he's got a chance to have a nice season.

Speaker 4: Any reason why he settled on number five.

Speaker 3: As opposed to six or five is a pretty big number.

Speaker 3: And if you go back and look like there have

Speaker 3: been over the last decade or fifteen years, I mean,

Speaker 3: in this team, you don't have guys getting that many

Speaker 3: and here's the other thing. If you get a guy

Speaker 3: who starts making picks, they don't throw it his way anymore.

Speaker 3: So it's really hard. I mean when Patrick Peterson, when

Speaker 3: Patrick Peterson was in his prime, he had five picks

Speaker 3: one year, and I think they all came in a clump,

Speaker 3: and then after that year, and that was early in

Speaker 3: his career, like he was getting one and two. And

Speaker 3: it's not because he wasn't any good. They just weren't

Speaker 3: going to be stupid enough to throw in his direction.

Speaker 3: Dureu Reeves didn't have a bunch of interceptions in their

Speaker 3: career as it went along, because who the hell's thrown

Speaker 3: against them? So I think ultimately, I think ultimately five

Speaker 3: is that's a nice chunky number.

Speaker 5: I was in the same realm as you for my

Speaker 5: first prediction. Okay, Walterner on the third is gonna have

Speaker 5: a double digit sack season. Whoa Okay, whoao is right?

Speaker 5: Twenty five and twenty twenty five he played in six games.

Speaker 5: It's really more like five because he didn't finish, yeah,

Speaker 5: half of two of those games, so we'll roughly say

Speaker 5: five games he played. The numbers he put up two sacks,

Speaker 5: five tackles, for lost, five QB hits, two passes, defense,

Speaker 5: one fumble recovery. He's got the motor in the skill

Speaker 5: set to be disruptive. I know they lost Kalais Campbell,

Speaker 5: was their best defensive lineman and free agency, but they

Speaker 5: brought back Roy Lopez. They brought back a mountain of

Speaker 5: a man, a refrigerator or a brick, whatever you want

Speaker 5: to call. Andrew Billings, who's listed at three p forty.

Speaker 5: I think generous, generous of how big he is and

Speaker 5: in the troll he could cause there, and especially if

Speaker 5: you're able to get the consistency in the pass rush

Speaker 5: from a Joshua maybe a little more from a bi

Speaker 5: Joju Larie jordan Burg, that's obviously going to help someone

Speaker 5: like Walter Nolan if the offense is having to account

Speaker 5: for more players in the line of scrimmage down in

Speaker 5: the trenches. From what we saw from Nolan and the

Speaker 5: few instances he played as a rookie last year were spectacular.

Speaker 5: He was constantly in the backfield, even if it didn't

Speaker 5: account to a sack or QB hit, he was forcing

Speaker 5: that quarterback to roll out of the pocket to get

Speaker 5: rid of the ball. It was an incomplete pass, it

Speaker 5: was a tackle for loss from a running back, whatever

Speaker 5: it was, we saw really great things consistently from Nolan.

Speaker 5: It sounds like from what we've heard from Mike Lafleura

Speaker 5: that we can expect Nolan to be healthy at the

Speaker 5: start of training camp from that knee injury that took

Speaker 5: him out the second half of the season last year.

Speaker 5: So if he can stay healthy, I think it's plausible

Speaker 5: that with a full offseason, better understanding of this defense,

Speaker 5: and if he can really get rolling and he can

Speaker 5: find some momentum, I think that it's very plausible that

Speaker 5: no one could have a double digit sexe when.

Speaker 3: You're getting double digit sacks from an interior defensive lineman's

Speaker 3: I understand.

Speaker 5: But again from what we have seen, and it would

Speaker 5: also be great because this pass rush has not been

Speaker 5: anything to write home about outside of Joshuat, So I

Speaker 5: would love for it to happen. And that's that's my prediction.

Speaker 2: We are all told to select two, So I'm gonna

Speaker 2: go with this one because it does coincide with each

Speaker 2: one of yours.

Speaker 4: Okay, bj O JILARI will flirt with double digit secks.

Speaker 5: Wow, heyo. So we're talking to At least he's twenty

Speaker 5: sacks just from two players.

Speaker 2: If that happens, because I looked it up, BJ would

Speaker 2: double his career total. He has five in his three seasons,

Speaker 2: missed all of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4: This is a.

Speaker 2: Contract year for BJ, so yes, he is motivated. But

Speaker 2: even beyond that, I think he is motivated to prove

Speaker 2: his draft selection where he was. I mean, the second

Speaker 2: round pick that carries expectations, carries weight, and some bad luck,

Speaker 2: BJ has not been available. And if you do have

Speaker 2: him get to eight, nine, ten sacks, to me, it's

Speaker 2: answered one of the bigger questions that this team has

Speaker 2: had for a long time. Forget Josh Wett, but where

Speaker 2: is that other pass rusher coming from? Can bjo Juli

Speaker 2: be that guy opposite Josh Wet? Can he be the

Speaker 2: Marcus Golden to Chandler Jones.

Speaker 3: Let me ask you to this question before we move

Speaker 3: on to any other predictions, based on what you guys

Speaker 3: just did. What would be a bigger deal for this team?

Speaker 3: If Nolan did what you say, or if o Jeli

Speaker 3: did what you.

Speaker 2: Say, it would be a I'm gonna answer it to it.

Speaker 2: It would be a bigger surprise for me anyway, if

Speaker 2: BJ did it because of what we've seen from Walter,

Speaker 2: but I think it would be more beneficial.

Speaker 3: For the team. That's what I'm asking if it was because.

Speaker 2: Of the edge rush and that position group overall agreed.

Speaker 3: I don't. I don't care about surprise. I'm saying what means,

Speaker 3: what is has greater meaning in the great, great.

Speaker 5: Scheme of it because it's been a few a few

Speaker 5: years since you've really had more than one pass rusher

Speaker 5: consistently make a difference, at least in.

Speaker 3: Term you're talking about rusher.

Speaker 5: An edge rusher, at least in terms of getting sacks.

Speaker 5: I know that there's more impact in a game outside

Speaker 5: of just hitting that number, but that's something that we

Speaker 5: need to see from this defense, from your outside linebackers

Speaker 5: and getting to the quarterback more consistently. So I would

Speaker 5: say in terms of that and kind of getting validation

Speaker 5: for that draft pick, who's an Ojali's been around for

Speaker 5: longer than Nolan. I know he hasn't been available, but

Speaker 5: he's been around longer than Nolan. Would I would go

Speaker 5: with Ojeli.

Speaker 3: Because making the edge rusher point is a big part

Speaker 3: of that. Because you're also saying you get a double

Speaker 3: digit sack guy from Nolan, so you'd have sweat Nolan.

Speaker 3: I just I tend to agree because I think, quite frankly,

Speaker 3: I think Walter Nolan can make a big impact on

Speaker 3: this team even if he doesn't get a lot of sacks.

Speaker 3: Ojelari would need to get sacks, so I do think

Speaker 3: a greater impact there.

Speaker 2: Yeah, statistically you would need to see it out of

Speaker 2: BJ versus Walter, and no matter whom it is, whether

Speaker 2: it's Walter or BJ, it would mean your prediction would

Speaker 2: come true because now all of a sudden, uarterbacks are

Speaker 2: getting rid of the ball a lot quicker.

Speaker 3: See it all works together, all right? Are we on

Speaker 3: to round two?

Speaker 4: Round two?

Speaker 3: My second prediction is that tight end Trey McBride will

Speaker 3: have fewer than one hundred catches.

Speaker 4: That is not unrealistic.

Speaker 3: Well, okay, I just think. I know he's had two

Speaker 3: years in a row of one hundred catches, but I

Speaker 3: think at this point, especially adding Jeremiah Love into the mix.

Speaker 3: You know, again, this is counting on Michael Wilson continuing

Speaker 3: to trend upwards. This is assuming Marvin Harrison stays healthy

Speaker 3: and gets better. But I just think the options for

Speaker 3: all those catches. I think they were almost necessary the

Speaker 3: last couple of years, whereas you'll have the ability to

Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying Trey McBride's gonna have a

Speaker 3: bad year or that he's not going to be the

Speaker 3: best tight end in the league. He just would be

Speaker 3: under triple digits for catches, and I think that could

Speaker 3: bode well for the offense rather than it being a

Speaker 3: bad thing.

Speaker 5: Not unrealistic. Twenty twenty five, I McBride had one hundred

Speaker 5: and twenty six catches and twenty four. It was one

Speaker 5: hundred and eleven and twenty three. It was eighty one

Speaker 5: and twenty two. Is rookie hardly play behind zach Ertz.

Speaker 5: That was thirty nine, but it would have been three

Speaker 5: years since he had less than one hundred catches.

Speaker 3: Well, and let's also make clear the year he had

Speaker 3: eighty one, he basically was not getting any targets the

Speaker 3: first third of the season because of zach Ertz. So

Speaker 3: like if you look and when he since he has

Speaker 3: been tight end one. So once Ertz got hurt, if

Speaker 3: you do the math, he's he was on one hundred

Speaker 3: catch tart process that year too, So it's it would be. Basically,

Speaker 3: this would be the first time he would be a

Speaker 3: full time tight end one and not get to one

Speaker 3: hundred catches, or at least do that.

Speaker 2: If this offense is what we think it can be,

Speaker 2: you better hope that Trey McBride has fewer than one

Speaker 2: hundred catches because that means everyone else has elevated their game,

Speaker 2: regardless of whether Trey McBride gets more attention. But Jeremiah Love,

Speaker 2: James Connor, Trey Benson, Marvin Harris, and Michaels Wilson. That

Speaker 2: to me, if one number is gonna go down, some

Speaker 2: numbers have got to go up. So if Trey McBride

Speaker 2: has ninety catches, to me, that signals Michael's got eighty

Speaker 2: eighty five, Marvin's got eighty eighty five.

Speaker 4: And then maybe you're not.

Speaker 2: Throwing the ball nearly as much because you have a

Speaker 2: running game and you're playing with the lead.

Speaker 3: Sure you don't have to throw the.

Speaker 4: Ball in the second half twenty five times.

Speaker 5: I'd like to go next based on these answers, My

Speaker 5: second prediction Arizona will have two thousand yard receivers for

Speaker 5: the second straight year doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna have

Speaker 5: more catches. Last year, it was Michael Wilson and Trey McBride,

Speaker 5: and if you want even more specific prediction, I believe

Speaker 5: it will be those two players again. Again, doesn't necessarily

Speaker 5: mean that they're going to get more catches, but I

Speaker 5: think the way the offense could open up what we've

Speaker 5: seen from those two players specifically and what they're capable of,

Speaker 5: I think that the Cardinals could very likely have two

Speaker 5: thousand yard receivers. Again. Now, you hope that you're running

Speaker 5: the ball more, absolutely, but I still think that's possible.

Speaker 2: Averaging more yards per catch and a ten yard out

Speaker 2: is now all of a sudden, a seventy five yard

Speaker 2: catch and run with that space that you're talking about.

Speaker 2: So yeah, I can certainly see that, and I don't

Speaker 2: think that's we're talking about predictions. There are some that

Speaker 2: were like, okay, wow, Walter, no, that's but I don't

Speaker 2: having two one thousand yard receivers.

Speaker 4: I think that's very realistic.

Speaker 3: Now, if you want to, I mean, past catchers, you're

Speaker 3: not necessarily saying which ones obviously, right.

Speaker 5: Right, I'd still be McBride and Michael Wilson.

Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Now.

Speaker 4: If you're going to add a third to that conversation.

Speaker 5: Things get interesting once upon a time.

Speaker 3: But yeah, well that team also couldn't run the ball, and.

Speaker 2: Again that's based off what we think Michae Leffler wants

Speaker 2: to do. You're not going to have a whole bunch

Speaker 2: of someone being an outlier like a Trey McBride last season.

Speaker 2: I just I don't, I don't. I can't see that offense. Now,

Speaker 2: things do get sideways and there's injuries or whatever, and

Speaker 2: you're forced to then that's the different conversation. Hopefully back

Speaker 2: half of the season, that's fair. We'll stay on the

Speaker 2: offensive side.

Speaker 3: Let's do that.

Speaker 2: We did not discuss any of this, by the way,

Speaker 2: but it all kind of ties together. Our defensive predictions,

Speaker 2: now offensive predictions we could have had. I could have

Speaker 2: done two defense, could have done two offense, but I

Speaker 2: did an offense as well. And hopefully that my prediction

Speaker 2: means that your two predictions come true. This is the

Speaker 2: year year four Paris Johnson finally makes a Pro.

Speaker 3: Bowl Johnson happen.

Speaker 4: Yeah, I had.

Speaker 2: To look because I want to make sure if you're

Speaker 2: going to predict this, then something has to happen. So

Speaker 2: if he's in someone is out. So Trent Williams has

Speaker 2: been to the Pro Bowl twelve times.

Speaker 4: Four seasons.

Speaker 5: Impressive.

Speaker 2: So one of those two has to be not in

Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. Now, that could happen if one of

Speaker 2: them has happens to be in the super Bowl or

Speaker 2: there's an injury. So I do think one of those

Speaker 2: two or you just.

Speaker 5: Have what about Paris being in the Super.

Speaker 3: Bowl would be hilarious if his prediction didn't come true.

Speaker 3: Cardinals are in the super Bowl, but you.

Speaker 4: Could still get named to the Pro Bowl. You just

Speaker 4: don't participate good save.

Speaker 3: So so then your super Bowl thing doesn't matter. No,

Speaker 3: because anybody, if.

Speaker 5: He's saying physically he could be Paris could at least

Speaker 5: be an alternate.

Speaker 2: No, if the forty nine Ers or Lions or in

Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, that opens up a slot Paris Johnson gets.

Speaker 5: That way or another.

Speaker 4: And I was told.

Speaker 2: That it doesn't matter how you get to the Pro Bowl,

Speaker 2: it still counts as a Pro Bowl selection.

Speaker 5: That means that would mean a lot to him. He

Speaker 5: would love if that came true. You would love that

Speaker 5: because you know that he at least is on the

Speaker 5: upward trend of improving his play every year. It's a

Speaker 5: matter of staying healthy. So if that's the case, that

Speaker 5: means you're starting left tackle is staying healthy, which is

Speaker 5: a great thing.

Speaker 2: And I think that might be the biggest aspect of

Speaker 2: that prediction is he's on the field, hopefully all seventeen

Speaker 2: games or sixteen games, and you don't have to worry

Speaker 2: about the left side at all. Paris Johnson Junior, he's

Speaker 2: got it. As DJ Humphreys always like to say, I

Speaker 2: blocked the guy, and Paris does more than that.

Speaker 4: DJ did as well.

Speaker 2: But you solidify the left side, you answer the question

Speaker 2: about franchise tackle. And then with that Pro Bowl status,

Speaker 2: I'm guessing at some point, maybe sooner rather than later,

Speaker 2: maybe before the Pro Bowl, there's the.

Speaker 4: Matter of a contracting. It certainly would helpen to go.

Speaker 5: So I thought about making a prediction with these outdoor

Speaker 5: games that the Cardinals wouldn't have any major weather games,

Speaker 5: but I did not want to jinx anything, so I

Speaker 5: didn't make that an official prediction.

Speaker 3: When when do we go to San Francisco.

Speaker 5: It's gonna be hot, It'll be hot. We always go

Speaker 5: Week three or four and I'm always melting, So the

Speaker 5: outdoor games would be let's see at San Francisco Week

Speaker 5: three that's late September, that's toasty. The following week four

Speaker 5: at New York, and then the other outdoor venues would

Speaker 5: be at Seattle week nine in the middle of November

Speaker 5: might not be old, but rain you never know. At

Speaker 5: Kansas City week eleven, November twenty second, that could be.

Speaker 5: I have lived in Missouri in November many years. That

Speaker 5: would be chilly, and then those would be it. Nothing crazy.

Speaker 5: It's more so just rain.

Speaker 2: As long as you prefer rain or snow if you had,

Speaker 2: if you had to stand in something.

Speaker 4: For however long, snow, okay.

Speaker 3: I would be there. Although again we went to Green

Speaker 3: Bay that was miserable in twenty eighteen. I wasn't there,

Speaker 3: but I could see and we in the In those days,

Speaker 3: we were doing a Facebook pregame show. So me and Lisa,

Speaker 3: Me and Lisa Matthews were on the field for like

Speaker 3: ten minutes trying to do this thing and it was

Speaker 3: bone chilling and the snow was coming down and I'm like,

Speaker 3: I couldn't feel my fingers and I had all this

Speaker 3: stuff on.

Speaker 5: Yeah, that part's not fun. The cold, like I say,

Speaker 5: rain is some you know, darre and I were both

Speaker 5: in the press box a few years ago in Pittsburgh

Speaker 5: for what an hour and a half rain delay, so

Speaker 5: we didn't care about the right. We were nice and dry.

Speaker 3: There was a game, there was a game in Miami

Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen that was like there were like two

Speaker 3: or three different deluges of rain during the game and

Speaker 3: it was just awful for awful football. And the Cardinals.

Speaker 5: Well, I'm excited to see whose predictions come true. Honestly,

Speaker 5: if any of our predictions come true, that means something

Speaker 5: is going right on the offense.

Speaker 2: Feel stronger about a prediction one more than another.

Speaker 5: If he stays healthy, I go pretty good about the

Speaker 5: prediction of Walter Nolan having double digit sacks season.

Speaker 3: I think I think Trey's gonna have fewer than one

Speaker 3: hundred catches because I think this offense is going to

Speaker 3: be fairly balanced.

Speaker 4: Among my two I think I went out on a

Speaker 4: limb on both of.

Speaker 2: Them based off what needs to happen in order to

Speaker 2: But I would love to see if Bja flirted with

Speaker 2: double digit sacks because it means one he's healthy and

Speaker 2: two he's shown that he can be that guy. The

Speaker 2: Cardinals thought they were getting out of LSU in.

Speaker 5: The second round, so only time will tell.

Speaker 4: Knock on wood.

Speaker 2: Hopefully this all happens in twenty twenty six. And that's

Speaker 2: this edition. This week's edition, The Cardinals Underground