Cardinals Cover 2 - Drafting Offensive Linemen Always A Shrewd Move

Ep. 1016 - It’s said all the time: Build through the trenches. And if one were to look back at the past drafts of Monti Ossenfort since his time as Cardinals GM, then that is exactly what has been the goal. The trend continued this year with the selection of guard Chase Bisontis out of Texas A&M in the second round and tackle Jayden Williams out of Mississippi in the seventh round. Craig Grialou introduces both players before giving way to Paul Calvisi, who recently caught up with each of them individually. Hear Bisontis discuss his confidence having played in the SEC; hear Williams discuss his athleticism; and hear both discuss their time in college with Walter Nolen, who earned significantly praise from each.

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Speaker 1: You hear it all the time. Build through the trenches,

Speaker 1: specifically burg gang the offensive line. We talked to two

Speaker 1: of them right now, two of the newest in the room,

Speaker 1: second round pick Chase Psontis and seventh round pick Jaden Williams.

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Speaker 1: So you can learn a lot from history and just

Speaker 1: looking back at General Manager Many Austin four. Remember his

Speaker 1: first ever draft pick and offensive lineman, Paris Johnson Junior

Speaker 1: sixth overall in twenty twenty three. Starting with that draft class,

Speaker 1: Monty has selected at least two offensive linemen in three

Speaker 1: of his four drafts as Cardinals GM. There's Paris john

Speaker 1: Gains in twenty twenty three, Isaiah Adams, Christian Jones, in

Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, Hayden Connor in twenty twenty five. By

Speaker 1: the way, Hayden was the outlier in that draft class.

Speaker 1: He was the only offensive player selected in that draft,

Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty six Chase Bysonts and Jaden Williams.

Speaker 1: You need offensive line depth with the Cardinals. Here they'll

Speaker 1: go inside with Basontis and then outside with Williams. Besonts

Speaker 1: second round pick out of Texas A and M thirty six,

Speaker 1: career starts mainly at guard, which is where he's beginning

Speaker 1: his career with the Cardinals and potentially pushing to be

Speaker 1: the starter. Isaiah Adams, as we saw a lot during

Speaker 1: OTAs and mandatory mini camp, had the slight edge on Besontis,

Speaker 1: at least during the open portion of practice. When the

Speaker 1: team lined up with the starting unit, it was Adams

Speaker 1: at right guard. Would not be a surprise if Chase

Speaker 1: finds his way in that mix, or perhaps maybe wins

Speaker 1: the job outright at some point this season. How about

Speaker 1: we get to know a little bit more about Chase.

Speaker 1: Here he is with Paul Calvic all.

Speaker 6: Right, So with the Vets in town now right, and

Speaker 6: the old line room is a little more crowded. Here's

Speaker 6: a hard hitting question. What sort of rookie duties have

Speaker 6: you been assigned? Anything yet?

Speaker 4: You know?

Speaker 6: Snacks, donuts? Yelda Isaac as anyone say on Paris at

Speaker 6: this point, right, they said, okay, Chase, you're the new guy.

Speaker 6: Here we go.

Speaker 4: Yeah, this weekend, me and out of rookies got to

Speaker 4: go out. Probably gonna go to Costco, get a bunch

Speaker 4: of snacks and a lot of jokes too. A lot

Speaker 4: of rookie jokes come out in front of the meeting.

Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, such as anything you know suitable for family consumption.

Speaker 4: No line type of jokes, you know.

Speaker 6: Yeah, what's your go to for a snack? By the way,

Speaker 6: if someone's taking your order, what do you want?

Speaker 4: Man? Probably just like a nice hershey bar.

Speaker 6: Keep it simple. Okay, all right, that's interesting. Let me

Speaker 6: ask you this is this a typo over here? I

Speaker 6: was looking at your background. You were the twenty twenty

Speaker 6: two New Jersey Offensive player of the year. Ye as alignman. Yep,

Speaker 6: I've never heard of alignment being named the offensive player

Speaker 6: of the year. Yeah, did you like catch tackle eligible

Speaker 6: touchdown passes?

Speaker 4: Never?

Speaker 6: You were just so dominant.

Speaker 4: We had like three hundred rushing yards every pretty much

Speaker 4: every game.

Speaker 6: How shocked were you to get Offensive Player of the

Speaker 6: Year as alignment?

Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, we went to states. That's all my goal was.

Speaker 4: And to see that after that's pretty cool. That is cool.

Speaker 6: Didn't you lockhorns with Cody Simon too?

Speaker 4: Yeah? He beat me in the state championship in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 6: Interesting? All right, what was the recruit process like, because

Speaker 6: we know justin Friede, Ohio State he highly coveted you.

Speaker 6: Sounds like it was pretty intense the recruiting process.

Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a four star coming out of high school,

Speaker 4: had like forty offers really once A and M because

Speaker 4: at the time it was Jimbo Fisher, Steven Dazio, so

Speaker 4: highly respected guys, A good background, so really development was

Speaker 4: why I chose A and M.

Speaker 6: Interesting. Where do you think you grew the most in

Speaker 6: your three years in college?

Speaker 4: Probably between that freshman and sophomore year. Transition between right

Speaker 4: tackle and left guard, switching positions there, learning how to

Speaker 4: play with confidence, all those type of things.

Speaker 6: What gave you confidence?

Speaker 5: Man?

Speaker 4: Really? You know, going out to the field, you know

Speaker 4: I'm going in the SEC. We're going against NFL guys,

Speaker 4: so no doubt so really just being like, damn, I

Speaker 4: could block this dude, you know, and just doing it

Speaker 4: over and over and over again.

Speaker 6: Is it true you have to prove it to yourself?

Speaker 4: Yeah for sure?

Speaker 6: And so is that is that going to be a

Speaker 6: similar process here in the NFL. Are you gonna have

Speaker 6: to go through that again?

Speaker 4: You think? Yeah? For sure. I think it's it's all

Speaker 4: about myself.

Speaker 6: And you need to see it on film or do

Speaker 6: you just know?

Speaker 4: I think it takes time. It starts with the film

Speaker 4: and then every day it just how do you go

Speaker 4: into the building being pro you know?

Speaker 6: Okay, what's the biggest challenge taking that step to the

Speaker 6: next level? And what do you anticipate that being here

Speaker 6: in the NFL?

Speaker 4: Probably just being healthy for a twenty plus game season,

Speaker 4: you know.

Speaker 6: So you don't view like switching from the left side

Speaker 6: to right side, No, not at all, because a lot

Speaker 6: of offensive linemen I've been reviewed over the years they

Speaker 6: have a mental hang up over it.

Speaker 4: Nah. I've been doing it since high school, played both

Speaker 4: sides of high school started on dtackle, So just playing

Speaker 4: on one foot back is not really a big problem

Speaker 4: for me.

Speaker 6: You weren't bad as a d tackle, you know, right.

Speaker 6: I saw some of the numbers there as well. Yeah,

Speaker 6: all right, so tell me about playing in the trenches.

Speaker 6: I like to go by the nickname Pauli Pigskin, but

Speaker 6: really most people call me Polly Pencilneck. All right. I

Speaker 6: know nothing about the line. So what makes a good

Speaker 6: offensive lineman in your opinion.

Speaker 4: A smart dude who's bought into his old.

Speaker 6: Line room in one way, just.

Speaker 4: Somebody that you know, if four guys on offensive line

Speaker 4: played excellent and one guy doesn't, we all look bad.

Speaker 4: So all five guys got to play together consistently over

Speaker 4: the course of the game.

Speaker 6: How about mindset, because like everybody's big in the NFL. Yeah,

Speaker 6: how key is mindset? And what sort of mindset do

Speaker 6: you think you need to excel as an offensive lineman.

Speaker 4: I think it goes back into confidence and confidence in

Speaker 4: your technique and your game plan, because, yeah, there's guys

Speaker 4: that are bigger, longer than me. But if I stayed

Speaker 4: to my technique and how I know where my strengths are,

Speaker 4: then I can win blocks.

Speaker 6: Because you played tackle and you've obviously played interior line.

Speaker 6: How much more nasty and gritty is interior line?

Speaker 5: Yeah?

Speaker 4: A lot more? Ten times just for.

Speaker 6: Those of us ninety nine percent of America will never

Speaker 6: be in the trenches. What's it like? Describe it? It's

Speaker 6: like a car accident, except hopefully demolition Derby style. You're

Speaker 6: the one inflicting the right. Sure, yeah, let me what

Speaker 6: are you most curious about in the NFL? What are

Speaker 6: you looking forward to finding out once you actually put

Speaker 6: on pads? Because OTAs are great, but for alignment, Okay,

Speaker 6: nobody really knows until you're in pats.

Speaker 4: And that's a great question. Wow.

Speaker 6: I mean, for example, like Paris Johnson junior's rookie year,

Speaker 6: he went against Aaron Donald twice, Nick Bosa twice, Miles Garrett,

Speaker 6: Micah Parsons. Yeah, I mean the best of the best,

Speaker 6: and a lot of those guys broke the huddle and

Speaker 6: Paris tells the story they came right over him as

Speaker 6: right tackle, like they wanted to test the rookie. That's

Speaker 6: probably gonna happen to you this year, for sure. What

Speaker 6: is there a certain guy like if edge rushers come

Speaker 6: out and I asked me, a right, what quarterback do

Speaker 6: you want to sack? In the NFL? Are there certain

Speaker 6: defensive linement that you're like, you've looked at over the

Speaker 6: years of Man, I'd like to test myself against that

Speaker 6: guy or I respect that guy's game.

Speaker 4: Man really and not so much, but I could say,

Speaker 4: you know, playing with Walter Owen for a year, had

Speaker 4: a lot of respect for him as my teammate back then,

Speaker 4: so and he's obviously a great player. So probably just

Speaker 4: to go out and compete with him again be a

Speaker 4: lot of fun.

Speaker 6: It's interesting. Jade Williams mentioned that playing at ole miss

Speaker 6: Walter Nolan. What is it about because he only played

Speaker 6: six games last year, but the only thing that stopped

Speaker 6: him was injury. Yeah, what makes him such a force

Speaker 6: at D line?

Speaker 4: I think like his twitch off the ball, man like

Speaker 4: he can sell it. He's going like he's moving like

Speaker 4: an edge rusher at two hundred and ninety whatever pound

Speaker 4: how much he weighs.

Speaker 6: That's interesting. Chase Besantis is our guest. So have you

Speaker 6: had that welcome to the NFL moment in any way yet?

Speaker 6: I get it, you still have to put on Pat's

Speaker 6: camp regular season, But if you walked up to your

Speaker 6: locker and you saw your jersey for the first time

Speaker 6: or a helmet, is there sort of been a moment

Speaker 6: where you've been able to take it in.

Speaker 4: I would say day one of OTA's you know, in

Speaker 4: the Vets front run, and I'm just sitting on side.

Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, I'm here, you know. Pretty cool.

Speaker 6: Did your eyes go to anyone in particular? Was there

Speaker 6: anyone you're like, all right, because like Larry Fitzgerald came

Speaker 6: out and talked to the rookies, right, yeah.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 6: Guys used to say back in the day, when they

Speaker 6: came into the Cardinals locker room, They're like, oh, there's

Speaker 6: Larry Fitzgerald. You know, surefire Hall of Famer. You know,

Speaker 6: is there anybody sort of when you look around the

Speaker 6: room that you're like, all right, you know what, it's

Speaker 6: cool to be a teammate with that guy.

Speaker 4: Man. I think just our old line room. We got

Speaker 4: guys parents, Isaac fro you know, Isaiah and Elijah. I

Speaker 4: mean I've known all of them for years or no

Speaker 4: of them looking up to them for years. So pretty

Speaker 4: cool to be in that room.

Speaker 6: What was it like going back to New Jersey growing up?

Speaker 6: And you mentioned your dad played d two ball, Yep,

Speaker 6: it sounds like the two you would compete, Yeah for sure,

Speaker 6: like backyard stuff, Yeah for sure. Okay, so you get

Speaker 6: a lot of your toughness from your dad.

Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Just you know, I was always big, so

Speaker 4: so I was able to go with him to the

Speaker 4: court and you know, play pick up with him and

Speaker 4: go against older du so always been competitive in me.

Speaker 6: You know. Did he do that by design? Put you

Speaker 6: against older guys who are more your size?

Speaker 4: Ah? Man, it was. You know, whoever like kind of

Speaker 4: the same mindset. I said the other day, whoever's in

Speaker 4: front of us is play, you know, let's go.

Speaker 5: Yeah.

Speaker 6: Interesting, Okay, what about is the days leading up to

Speaker 6: the draft and the whole and the whole pre draft

Speaker 6: process in the off season? What was that like? Was

Speaker 6: there anything the scouts said about you that irked you?

Speaker 6: Is there anything that they got wrong in your scouter report?

Speaker 1: Man?

Speaker 4: I would just say the short arm thing. I've heard

Speaker 4: about that a lot, and I'll just say go watch

Speaker 4: the film because I've been doing that my whole career

Speaker 4: in college and SEC. Short arms is short arms, you know.

Speaker 6: And you told the media justin Probbly, you guys are

Speaker 6: sort of working on some strategies and techniques and tactics. Yeah,

Speaker 6: sort of mitigate that. Yeah, Okay, you know last year

Speaker 6: the Seahawks had Gray's abel and it came out middle

Speaker 6: of the first round, started all seventeen games in guard yep.

Speaker 6: I mean, do you put those sort of expectations on yourself?

Speaker 4: I definitely say as being a second round pick, Like

Speaker 4: I think I heard Jeremiah say the other day, like

Speaker 4: I owe my duty to payback this team for picking me,

Speaker 4: And that's kind of what I'm my focus and goal

Speaker 4: is for this season.

Speaker 6: You know, what do you think of Michael Lafleur so

Speaker 6: far and the head coach and just the staff.

Speaker 4: No, I like it. It's a lot of energy, a

Speaker 4: lot of fireballs, like it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 6: It's interesting. All right? Well, did you treat yourself to anything?

Speaker 6: I mean, you obviously made some money nil in college.

Speaker 6: Right now you're your top a round two pick. You know,

Speaker 6: do you have a weakness for anything? Did you at

Speaker 6: least take a moment and treat yourself to anything for accomplishing.

Speaker 4: Not really just really put in a lot in the

Speaker 4: bank and letting it grow.

Speaker 6: Really, it sounds like you and Jeremiah love and Ben Hagen. Okay,

Speaker 6: all right, Chase, pleasure to meet you all the.

Speaker 1: Best, great mindset. I love hearing that from rookies, and

Speaker 1: specifically Chase Bisontis, nothing is handed to these guys. The

Speaker 1: other response that I really liked, quote, go watch the

Speaker 1: film regarding his short arms, and it's going to be

Speaker 1: a thing until it's not a thing. But if you

Speaker 1: watched Chase in college, you know he can take care

Speaker 1: of himself despite those quote unquote short arms. And there

Speaker 1: is connections here with the Arizona Cardinals. He and Cody

Speaker 1: Simon competed against one another in high school. He and

Speaker 1: Walter Nolan teammates for one season at A and M

Speaker 1: before Nolan transferred to Ole. Miss liked hearing Chase talk

Speaker 1: about Walter how he is moving like an edge rusher

Speaker 1: even though he's a defensive lineman. Walter Nolan, that's one

Speaker 1: player everyone should keep an eye on year two, but

Speaker 1: maybe his first full season knock on wood, if he's

Speaker 1: able to stay healthy. Chase Besontis, though, didn't seem like

Speaker 1: it was going to be a big deal for him,

Speaker 1: And here's hoping that it's not a big deal moving

Speaker 1: from the left to the right side, and him saying, quote,

Speaker 1: just putting one foot back is not really a big

Speaker 1: problem for me. I guess it depends on who you ask.

Speaker 1: Players talk differently about making that move from the left

Speaker 1: side to the right side or the right side to

Speaker 1: the left side, and then also going from inside to outside.

Speaker 1: Is the skill set is different, The footwork is certainly different.

Speaker 1: The mindset, though, is the same. So hopefully Chase Bisontis

Speaker 1: is able to make that transition relatively smoothly from the

Speaker 1: left side to the right side of the line of

Speaker 1: scrimmage from the era for the Arizona Cardinals. All right,

Speaker 1: speaking about the line of scrimmage, as we mentioned, Chase

Speaker 1: Bysontis is on the inside. The outside, that is Jayden Williams,

Speaker 1: seventh round pick out of Ole Miss thirty four career

Speaker 1: starts all at tackle. He's got experience on both the

Speaker 1: left and the right sides. Not long ago, Paul had

Speaker 1: the chance to speak with Jayden.

Speaker 6: So your whole rookie year, right, is just gonna be

Speaker 6: a series of welcome to the NFL moments, as we

Speaker 6: welcome in Jaden Williams, round seven rookie for the Cardinals,

Speaker 6: all mistackle both sides. We'll get to that, but tell

Speaker 6: us about the moment where you looked in your locker

Speaker 6: and you had an NFL jersey and your name was

Speaker 6: on the back right before you went on to your

Speaker 6: first rookie mini camp practice.

Speaker 3: Was that?

Speaker 6: Was that a munch that give you a little pause?

Speaker 6: You soak that in a little bit?

Speaker 5: Yeah, just a little bit. I just seemed like it

Speaker 5: was about time. And I've You've been waiting for two weeks,

Speaker 5: so I've been ready to get to this.

Speaker 6: True, that's true. And you know what I talked to

Speaker 6: Carson Beck about this a little bit too, the state

Speaker 6: of college football with nil money And do you feel

Speaker 6: like a professional already in some ways.

Speaker 5: To an extent, just like on the money and you know,

Speaker 5: you get paid, you still got to do all your

Speaker 5: taxes sometimes you gotta. I didn't negotiate personally, but you know,

Speaker 5: sometimes you got people that go in there they try

Speaker 5: to date the negotiation. But I mean, the only difference

Speaker 5: is I ain't have a class.

Speaker 6: In a moment. It's true in the past, like how

Speaker 6: many college football players would have to worry about their

Speaker 6: taxes right now that's a big deal. Now that's interesting,

Speaker 6: all right? You know what, we'll get into college, we'll

Speaker 6: get into the NFL. I want to go back to

Speaker 6: high school. Tell us about your high school mascot.

Speaker 4: What is it again?

Speaker 3: No wumpus cat? Okay?

Speaker 6: And what is a wampus cat?

Speaker 3: Six legged cat? Fourth run and two for fighting.

Speaker 6: It's great. Do you have any T shirts with the

Speaker 6: six legged cat? Do you have any gear? You should

Speaker 6: give out some of that gear in the locker room.

Speaker 3: Actually, the trainer drew. He just asked me. He said,

Speaker 3: can I get a T shirt?

Speaker 5: No?

Speaker 6: Seriously?

Speaker 1: Okay?

Speaker 6: So I mean here's the other mind blow about your

Speaker 6: high school career Conway High School? Okay, Arkansas? If I

Speaker 6: have this right, you were a receiver your senior year.

Speaker 6: There were offensive line injuries and you had to fill

Speaker 6: in in a pinch and the rest is history.

Speaker 4: That's right.

Speaker 3: I was a tight end.

Speaker 5: Say about the fourth to fifth game in that year,

Speaker 5: somebody go down and chair to aca. Hey coach, Coach

Speaker 5: Fimple comes up to me. He says, Jayden, we need

Speaker 5: you to play tackle. He was like, I'm telling you

Speaker 5: right now, when you do it, it's gonna change your

Speaker 5: life forever.

Speaker 6: And he spoke that into existence. That's amazing. How much

Speaker 6: weight did you gain from your senior year of high school?

Speaker 6: What did you weigh then? And then by the time

Speaker 6: you red shirted at Ole Miss. What did you end

Speaker 6: up as you know at that.

Speaker 5: Point when I came in the old Miss, I was

Speaker 5: too sixty. So it's probably putting about forty to fifty

Speaker 5: sixty pounds depending on the timeless seasons because been at

Speaker 5: three twenty five before, been at three oh five before,

Speaker 5: just whatever season you catch me in.

Speaker 6: What was your go to in terms of putting on weight, like,

Speaker 6: what's your what's your favorite indulgence cheat day?

Speaker 3: It wouldn't do it when it was putting on weight.

Speaker 3: I was eating. You know, they had the five ninety

Speaker 3: nine dominoes, things, the.

Speaker 5: Two pizzas, I mean, yogurt, soft served ice cream from

Speaker 5: the cafeteria, turkey sandwiches.

Speaker 6: You're gonna eat a lot healthier than that.

Speaker 4: Now.

Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. I mean that was young enough.

Speaker 6: How did it feel you got out there on the field.

Speaker 6: I know they were just basic drill, but that you

Speaker 6: got introduced to justin Fry, your own line coach, you

Speaker 6: know Chris Cook from the Shrine game, right, What was

Speaker 6: it like just going through your first NFL practice?

Speaker 5: I said, it was about time I've been itching to

Speaker 5: get to this, and you get frustrated doing all the

Speaker 5: forty training and stuff that I would never run forty again.

Speaker 5: So it's like I've been willing to get for football

Speaker 5: for months. I've been itching. I feel like some days

Speaker 5: I wake up mad because I can't play football. So

Speaker 5: it's good to get out there and start practicing, even

Speaker 5: if it's an hour like it was today.

Speaker 6: One of my favorite questions, and Jade Williams is our

Speaker 6: guest Round seven rookie tackle a lot of ole miss

Speaker 6: One of my favorite questions for guys coming right through

Speaker 6: the draft process. Was there anything that made you mad

Speaker 6: about your scouter reports. It's amazing a lot of guys

Speaker 6: come out and say, you know what, that's not fair,

Speaker 6: that's not accurate. I'm going to use that as a motivator.

Speaker 6: Was there anything that showed up in your scatter reports

Speaker 6: that you didn't agree with?

Speaker 5: My brother reabb me one one day and it was

Speaker 5: talking about like like how like I couldn't change directions

Speaker 5: or something, and I was just like.

Speaker 6: You were a big time basketball exactly.

Speaker 3: So I was like, this is what I do.

Speaker 5: Like you disrespected my movement, like like you disrespected me. So,

Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's the craziest thing that I seen.

Speaker 6: At three hundred plus pounds. Can you still dunk?

Speaker 3: Easy?

Speaker 4: Easy?

Speaker 3: Easy?

Speaker 4: Really?

Speaker 3: Yeah?

Speaker 6: Okay, all right, tell me about life in the SEC.

Speaker 6: I saw a stat where last season, I think it

Speaker 6: was Pro Football Focus said you gave up two quarterback

Speaker 6: hits two sacks. The only SCC tackle that did better

Speaker 6: was Caden Proctor, a first round pick out of Alabama.

Speaker 6: What are the strengths of your game, I.

Speaker 5: Say, me and pass protection? I mean, like I have

Speaker 5: my little mistakes sometimes where like it's easy, it's all

Speaker 5: easy stuff that I can clean up. Well, the two

Speaker 5: secs I did give up, it's little stuff that I

Speaker 5: know I do. It was already stuff just like I'm

Speaker 5: I'm out of control. So it's like it's stuff that

Speaker 5: I can work on and just me personally. So I

Speaker 5: think my pass protection is a plus. And then like

Speaker 5: when we're getting the run game and it's time to

Speaker 5: get in combos and get people off the ball, nobody

Speaker 5: did it better than me and Cootas last year. So

Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's the biggest strength.

Speaker 6: And you've started it left and at right tackle. So

Speaker 6: does one feel more natural to you at this point?

Speaker 5: I say, right, now right, just because that's why I

Speaker 5: play it the whole year. But left it's just the

Speaker 5: that's just the natural thing getting thrown in at high

Speaker 5: school to left tackle.

Speaker 6: What do you value the most? You might not be surprised,

Speaker 6: Polly pencilneck here, I've never played o line all right,

Speaker 6: So what makes a good offensive lineman? What do you

Speaker 6: value the most when you're looking for traits and someone

Speaker 6: What do you think is most important to be a

Speaker 6: good offensive lineman?

Speaker 5: I think having that mindset and mentality to get it

Speaker 5: done by any means necessary. So it's like on offense

Speaker 5: of line, you understand everything is not gonna be perfect

Speaker 5: and you're gonna have to adjust then move on the fly.

Speaker 5: But like you have to be willing and like you

Speaker 5: have to be ahead of the game, so like you

Speaker 5: have to.

Speaker 3: Be mentally there.

Speaker 5: And when you're mentally that, whether it's like the playbook,

Speaker 5: knowing your stuff and knowing what's going on, but you

Speaker 5: have that mindset, like no matter what it is, you

Speaker 5: play hard, you play fast, and you want to get

Speaker 5: the job done by any means necessary, because sometimes it's

Speaker 5: all to take just trying to like just like having

Speaker 5: that mindset of getting it done. So I just like

Speaker 5: that the mind said of it.

Speaker 6: You obviously got it done at the Shrine Bowl. What

Speaker 6: do you think he showed the Cardinals and in particular,

Speaker 6: assistant offensive line coach Chris Cook, how'd that go for you?

Speaker 6: I mean it seemed did you like your performance there?

Speaker 3: Really? I didn't.

Speaker 4: You did not?

Speaker 5: First day I didn't. I say, at least out of

Speaker 5: the three days, my first day I was. I was

Speaker 5: very frustrated because it was just like, we're a week

Speaker 5: and a half removed from the season. I'm mentally like, okay,

Speaker 5: let's get ready for the combine because I was late

Speaker 5: invites me to the Shrine Bowl, so I kind of

Speaker 5: checked out a football. So going after that first day,

Speaker 5: knee was hurting, everything was hurting, So I'm like, man,

Speaker 5: and I just sucked it up at left tack of

Speaker 5: But you know, day two and day three I got

Speaker 5: it together and I was more pleased with that. And

Speaker 5: then like, just looking back on it, it wasn't even

Speaker 5: as bad as I thought it was.

Speaker 6: So that's right, because the Shrine Bowl wasn't that far

Speaker 6: removed from the Fiesta bal You've already played in the

Speaker 6: Cardinals on the stadium I'm guessing you don't have any

Speaker 6: too many fond memories. I want to ask you about

Speaker 6: the outcome or Carson back or any of that. You know,

Speaker 6: I know you're gonna try and avoid that. With the

Speaker 6: Cardinals new I have three quarterback. How was it going

Speaker 6: against Ruben Ban and Messador? How often did you lock

Speaker 6: horns with those guys?

Speaker 5: I think I got I got both of them. I

Speaker 5: got mecedor a loted in the first half and Bang

Speaker 5: a lot in the second half. And I say, like

Speaker 5: this past season they were probably two of the best

Speaker 5: best DEFENSI ends as we played, especially Bang, Like I

Speaker 5: would put Bang up there as one of the best

Speaker 5: ones I played since I've been in college too. And

Speaker 5: I was just it's just like a look a little

Speaker 5: different game because right, of course they got to they

Speaker 5: have an NFL NFL Hall of Famers, a defensive line coach.

Speaker 5: But then you put down on the skill they both

Speaker 5: have right and stuff that we didn't see in the

Speaker 5: SEC as much going against them as true rushers, it

Speaker 5: was like it's kind of challenge.

Speaker 3: I wouldn't say challenging.

Speaker 5: You have to figure out things, like I said, you

Speaker 5: have to figure out things on the fly, like you

Speaker 5: have to adjust the things and your technique and stuff

Speaker 5: like that, because like, of course, like you can't replicate

Speaker 5: that in practice though, what those two can do.

Speaker 3: So I say that was the biggest thing.

Speaker 6: I'm guessing you'd say the same thing about Walter Noll

Speaker 6: in the third your teammates with him for a number

Speaker 6: of years at all, miss just I mean, what would

Speaker 6: an offensive lineman say about trying to block defensive line?

Speaker 5: Meant, Walter Nolan, you better strap it up because you

Speaker 5: know when he coming he coming. Like That's like I said,

Speaker 5: that's probably one of the best defense Being on my

Speaker 5: team and seeing it first handed practice and then see

Speaker 5: what he do in the games, it's probably one of

Speaker 5: the best, if not the best interieror defensive lineman I

Speaker 5: have seen in college.

Speaker 6: Really, Yeah, because last year the only thing that stopped

Speaker 6: Walter Nolan was injury. Yeah, I mean, he was a headache.

Speaker 6: What makes him most problematic for an offensive lineman.

Speaker 3: I think just the fact that he can do anything.

Speaker 5: You got somebody that's quick twitch, they can get around

Speaker 5: you if they wanted to with a nest, but he

Speaker 5: will put a hole in your chest that he has

Speaker 5: to too. So it's like nothing you can do, Like

Speaker 5: you have to, Like I said, it's one of them mentalities.

Speaker 5: You have to meet a mentality with a mentality with him,

Speaker 5: Like you can't get out there and be scared of him.

Speaker 5: You got to take it to them. So like if

Speaker 5: you go out there, you'll be like, oh my god,

Speaker 5: that's Walser right here. You already lost a battle from

Speaker 5: the jump.

Speaker 6: I'm guess seeing you're not gonna be real real wide

Speaker 6: eyed going into NFL preseason games and training camp, having

Speaker 6: played in the SEC, being a little bit of an

Speaker 6: older guy, having gone against the ruben Bains and the

Speaker 6: Walter Nolan's and being a AD. But you seem like

Speaker 6: you know you're ready for all this, you're looking forward

Speaker 6: to what's next. Would that be accurate?

Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know the SEC.

Speaker 5: Like you said, like we played Bang, we played Messador,

Speaker 5: I played Dallas Turner will Anderss. Like I've seen I've

Speaker 5: seen a lot of defense and ins that's in the

Speaker 5: like younger defensive ends in the NFL already, even when

Speaker 5: I was younger, because I played as a redsh re freshman.

Speaker 3: It's like I feel like it's great.

Speaker 6: Yeah, you started left tackle and you went against the

Speaker 6: will Anderson Juniors. Wow, that's interesting. So what do you look?

Speaker 6: What are you most curious about with the NFL? Is

Speaker 6: there something you want to find out effect of August

Speaker 6: with training camp or September with the regular season. Is

Speaker 6: there something you're you're curious to find out about this

Speaker 6: level this league.

Speaker 5: I just like, I know, like this is a league

Speaker 5: where everybody's good. Like if you're not on the like

Speaker 5: if you're on the fifty three man roster, you're on

Speaker 5: there for a reason. It's not like college. You may

Speaker 5: have a backup coming and it'll be like, Okay, you

Speaker 5: can get away from it. Like, I just want to see,

Speaker 5: like it's a good competition every week. I want to

Speaker 5: see that competition. I want to see the UH the

Speaker 5: second defensive end and Cottage may not be good, but

Speaker 5: it's still an elite in the NFL. Like I'm more

Speaker 5: excited to go out there and see that and be like, Okay,

Speaker 5: I got to be on top of my game against anybody,

Speaker 5: opposed to where a college you may slip into that

Speaker 5: mindset where it's like, ex yeah.

Speaker 6: All right, Jane, Well we look forward to seeing you

Speaker 6: and UH and the Wampus Cat T shirt. Okay, you're

Speaker 6: going to try and make that happen.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to guess I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you haven't bird Gang, please do look it up.

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Speaker 1: fighting Jayden Williams with the perfect description and the photo does.

Speaker 1: I think the photo is pretty outstanding if you do

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Speaker 1: would look like. So hopefully Jade Williams plays like a

Speaker 1: wampus cat as far as the ability to fight there

Speaker 1: in the trenches. Someone who made the switch was a

Speaker 1: tight end in high school. And then just to hear

Speaker 1: him tell Paul how he added weight, how he was

Speaker 1: able to gain weight six' four three ten though but

Speaker 1: still able to dunk, basketball maintained his athleticism despite adding

Speaker 1: some pounds to be able to play along the offensive.

Speaker 1: Line jayden said he's comfortable on either the left or

Speaker 1: the right. Side last year fifteen starts at right. Tackle

Speaker 1: he's seen a lot of competitive play on that side

Speaker 1: of the line of, scrimmage number of elite edge rushers

Speaker 1: out of THE. SEC i think the right side might

Speaker 1: be where we See Jayden williams at least, start could

Speaker 1: potentially see him on the left side as a backup

Speaker 1: To Paris Johnson. Junior but you like that versatility along

Speaker 1: the offensive line, because As Nick rolas likes to, say

Speaker 1: someone loses a, shoe meaning you get, hurt you had

Speaker 1: to have you gotta be able to have, depth and

Speaker 1: you gotta have to have fill. Ins and even though

Speaker 1: you might not be trained on the left side or

Speaker 1: the right, side if someone gets hurt and they need

Speaker 1: someone in a, pinch you gotta be able to play

Speaker 1: either side a line of scrimmage when it comes to

Speaker 1: the left side or the right side of the offensive.

Speaker 1: Line and just like With Chase, Besontis Jayde williams former

Speaker 1: college teammates With Walter. Nolan so we heard a lot

Speaker 1: about just some teases about What walter could be in

Speaker 1: year two here with The Arizona, cardinals considering his pass

Speaker 1: with Both chase And. Jayden so that was kind of

Speaker 1: an interesting fun fact about these two. Individuals, again the

Speaker 1: offensive line is, key and right, now this offensive line,

Speaker 1: room it is. Deep it is three teams worth. Deep

Speaker 1: you got the first, unit second, unit and third unit

Speaker 1: and how it all plays. OUT i Mentioned chase right,

Speaker 1: now at least During OTA's and mini camp running second.

Speaker 1: Team Jayde williams will in the mix in third team right.

Speaker 1: Now we'll see how that changes as we get into

Speaker 1: training camp and how, much not only when the pads come,

Speaker 1: on but preseason play. Begins how much these players talking

Speaker 1: About chase And, jayden how much better they can be

Speaker 1: and maybe move up the depth chart a little bit

Speaker 1: easier For, chase he's only Trailing Isaiah. Adams more difficult

Speaker 1: For jayden as far as trying to figure out if

Speaker 1: he can be in the. Mix i'll say, this, though

Speaker 1: you can be A day three, player A day three

Speaker 1: offensive lineman when you get drafted and have a successful

Speaker 1: career in THE. Nfl look no further Than cardinals radio

Speaker 1: color Analyst Aq, shipley a seventh round selection out Of Penn,

Speaker 1: state and he turned that into a very productive ten

Speaker 1: year plus career in The National Football. League so it

Speaker 1: can be, done and hopefully it can be done Here

Speaker 1: Jayden williams and The Arizona cardinals good. Conversations appreciate Both

Speaker 1: Chase asantis And Jade williams sitting down With Paul Calvisi

Speaker 1: Special thanks to everyone behind the scenes as, well our

Speaker 1: executive Producer Jim Mama, hundre our associate Producer Coddy. Fincher

Speaker 1: until next, Time I'm Craig.

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