May 28th 2026
On today's show Donnie and Rick share their thoughts on the CFL jumping into the streaming world as part of their new media rights deal and more.
Joining the guys is Thomas Drance (18:29), John Shannon (51:02) and CFL Commissioner Stewart Johnston (1:03:07).
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Speaker 5: How are you lovely? Couldn't be better?
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes when we do the show the night
before and I know there was a Stanley Cup playoff
game last night, but you wonder, what are we going
to talk about? Because let's be honest, that game last night.
It was dull and that's I'm the first one to
back the National Hockey League in the Stanley Cup playoffs,
but Carolina sucked the life out of that building and
the Montreal Canadians for nothing. Final they're up three games
to one. Just a record setting amount of shots for
the Montreal Canadians in a negative way. We hope to
talk to about that more a little bit later, but
let's focus on the Vancouver Canucks and just an update
on Many Maholtra and the Canucks pursuit of him as
their next head coach. What's the latest in terms of
contract negotiations.
Speaker 5: He's not out. They haven't said he's out. The negotiations.
What do they start Monday? Look don money in term
or what are the two biggest hurdles? You've done a
ton of negotiations. We have, both of us have. And
what's always the problem? Money in term?
Speaker 4: My problem is that I'm not that good.
Speaker 5: Well, that's why you had an agent. You know, we
had agents who did that. Thanks to paying Rutherford, Elvin
and Foot next year not to work. The Canucks didn't
pay much for the GM job. And it's hard to
believe they're going to give much money to a rookie.
Speaker 4: GM rookie head coach, rookie's.
Speaker 5: Sorry, head coach. Manny doesn't have to rush into this.
He's got one year left in Abbey. He can go
back to Abby if he wants and become a UFA
in twelve months. Does he want to be the lowest
paid coach in the NHL. I don't think so, but
he should take a look Manny and Donnie. I'm going
to bring this up on to Travis Green. When he
got the Canucks, drop didn't get a lot of money.
When he left town, he was making three point five million.
When Travis went back to Ottawa, he didn't get a
ton of money. But what's his next deal going to
look like? That's the way you got a if you're
a rookie coach, the opportunity to coach in the NHL,
do well and hit it, nail it on.
Speaker 4: That confidence in yourself and even though it's a low number,
he can lead to bigger and better things.
Speaker 5: Travis Green is evidence that.
Speaker 4: You know you think Manny's making a mistake.
Speaker 5: No, I don't. I didn't say that. I think Manny's
doing what's best for Mannie and he should and He
should also be concerned that this hockey club fired a
coach last a couple of weeks ago who was one
year into a three year deal. This hockey club is
on there the cup.
Speaker 4: The club can't operate like that. That's just done.
Speaker 5: You can't. If you're Manny Malhulter, you're asking these guys,
why are you guys firing coaches every year? I would
have questions, don I would have big time questions.
Speaker 4: So, well, where does that lead to? You?
Speaker 6: Have?
Speaker 4: You got other options?
Speaker 5: Look, either they cut a deal or they don't. You
know what, I know how that works. But I mean,
if I'm Manny, I'm doing that.
Speaker 4: But why is he Why would he get upset at that?
Speaker 5: Wouldn't you? Well, no, I would coach in five years.
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't because the fact that you've let go
of all those coaches is open up up a door
for him. But I wouldn't be upset. I'd be like, great,
I'll take that job. I mean, you know again, term money,
it has to be worked out. But they're firing coaches
left and right. It seems they're if you know, well
they do they have new people in charge. It seems
they have a new direction, maybe a little bit more patience.
I'm okay like that. Look to me that the worry
has to be for the Canucks and their fans, because
I think they can sell many mahultra. I think that
the customers want that. The fan base wants many mahultra.
They want that decision. The worry would be Lisa looking
for a coach. The Kings are law for a coach.
Are they going to lose many malultra.
Speaker 5: Well, they got to give permission first.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 5: The bottom line is they've been talking negotiating for a while.
There's no deal. So you got to ask yourself why.
Usually the reasons are money in term of course, they
got to.
Speaker 4: Figure it out.
Speaker 5: They can always the case with the exhaustation and he's
got an agent, and all these guys got agents now,
and they you know, some of them are tough negotiators.
Speaker 4: Okay, we want to hawk and a little bit of
a left turn here. We want to talk about CFL
football and a new television agreement. We'll do that in
a second, but I also want to mention that Canada
has defeated the States at the World Hockey Championships in Switzerland.
Final score for nothing City Crosby finally finally got a goal,
nine assist going, and I believe it was an empty edter.
Bottom line, he scores, He's been outstanding on a line
with Maclin Celebrini, so four nothing final. I saw the
big story out of that game. The big story is
what happened in the first period. Did you see this?
Evan Bouchard left the game. We got the video there
we go. Left the game early, taking a hit to
the head from Ryan Lindgren of The States place for
the Seattle Kraken and Lindgren as you would expect, what's
he thinking here? Right under the chin five minute major
and was ejected. Evan Bouchard was out cold. This was
really frightening to watch, not only the hit but the
apter math. It was clear he was in He was
in some sort of distress, at a lot of distress
on the ice. We understand that, you know, he's okay now,
but this is awful. In a couple of this is
where I go with this. Obviously, it's awful. You worry
about Evan Bouchard and his health. First of all, you know,
you see hits to the head and you say to yourself,
how can this happen again. But it happens again and
again and again. And I know things happened in a
split second, but five minute major ejection. What's he thinking.
The other thing that I go to is when you
see something like this, this is a star defenseman for
the Evans and Oilers, and I go here and it's
not right. But I am a hockey fan. I just
wonder about NHL participation in events like this. And you know,
I know they're they're committed to the Olympics, in the
World Cup and the World Championships and all that, but
is it worth it to send your star players when
you see when you see something like that, That's where
I go and look at look at Kevin Fial at
the Olympics as well, in case.
Speaker 5: You don't think they could have used him. Of course
they could have. Yeah, they had troubles scoring goals big time.
Speaker 4: So for nothink Canada. Canada goes onto the semi.
Speaker 5: Finals, absolutely okay.
Speaker 4: And then also the checks want today and the Philipronics critical.
Speaker 5: Philip Roonic, who everybody in Vancouver wants traded, who is
still on the radar to be named the new captain
of the Canucks. Look at this bullet. Come on, he's
on the list on whether you like it or not?
Speaker 4: How long is that list?
Speaker 5: Well it's not lost.
Speaker 4: They lost by the way for one.
Speaker 5: Anyways, Watch what a bullet? What a bullet by Heronic?
Make him captain?
Speaker 4: Well okay, so good with the media.
Speaker 5: Did Rutherford not say he's on a short list to
be named captain? Look at that bully shot right now?
An advisory's still with the team. But what a bullet
by Ironic there.
Speaker 4: Future captain of the whether you like it or not. Okay,
you think he's going to be God if he's that's
your representative that he's bitchy like he can't have that.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: He's a good pro on and off the ice. He
brings all. He plays a ton of hockey. He's always
on the ice. Yeah, and you think he's a bad
captain because he's a bad interview.
Speaker 4: He's not stop it, stop it. Part of the job
is dealing with the media. I know that people don't
hear that. In the Canucks front office.
Speaker 5: I care less. I need him in the dress care less,
remember the media. I need him to be a good
dressing room guy who guides the young kids along and
and and do you ever hear anything bad about heronic
I do? What's that other than the bad interview with
Jeff Patterson? One interview and you're all over the guy.
Speaker 4: You don't back your brethren. Unbelievable kind of a teammater.
You wouldn't be a captain. Okay, CFL, let's get this
is big, big news, and it goes beyond what happens
on the on the playing surface. Stuart Johnson, Commissioner of
the Canadian Football League, Man, this guy does not mess around.
The rule changes, the playoff format changes, and now this
the CFLs announced a series of new groundbreaking media agreements
with Bell Media. You love those guys, Rick Do Zone
or as you call it, Dozen and YouTube TSN is.
This starts in twenty twenty seven. TSN gets sixty games,
six playoff games, and the Great Cup. The Zone will
air Saturday night games starting at four o'clock Pacific, and
also a Saturday night playoff game in each of the
first two rounds. Remember things change in twenty twenty seven.
And then on top of that, you've got YouTube which
will come up with live preseason games, enhanced coverage, the documentary.
There's all sorts of tentacles to this agreement. So money
six years, five hundred million dollars for the Canadian Football League.
That's nine million dollars per team per year if our
calculations are correct, and there's some question about that. So
they go from fifty million a year to eighty four million.
That's arounded. I've got sixty percent increase something like that
again my math, sixty percent increase from the last deal
with TSN. But five hundred million over six years for
the Canadian Football League. Look, and Stuart's going to join us.
Stuart Johnson, Can I try the CFL at eleven fifteen.
You can criticize him, you can. You can criticize the
decisions that he's made, the playoff format, the rule changes.
Maybe you could even criticize this deal. Although five hundred million,
half a billion over six years sounds pretty good to me.
But he's not sitting on his hands. No, he's just
waiting for the season to start. He's getting deals done well.
Speaker 5: And one of the he came from TSN, so one
of the big reasons for hiring him his commissioner Don
was that he knows television. He knows television, he knows
how to cut big deals.
Speaker 4: See. And you know what I like about this is
that I just assumed that. And we'll get into the
streaming aspect of it in a second. I just assumed,
because he came from TSN, he sert an executive at
TSN for for a long time, I just assumed the
new deal would just be all TSN. But they're branching
out the CFLs is branching out with streaming with YouTube
and also sticking with TSCN to some extent.
Speaker 5: And you can say what you want about the CFL,
but they deliver big numbers for TSN and the summer
done in the summertime, especially when hockey's not there, it's
a big component for TSN to get through the summer.
And this is massive money for the CFL done. And
what's going to happen is the salary cap is going
to go up because the players are going to say, hey,
look at the money coming in. And so now you
can go out and get more American pleasant problem, a
pleasant problem. You can pay players more. The league's going
to get better because you're paying more. Go down to
the South, get some guys that used to play in
the NFL, get them up here. Pay a little bit more.
It's all good.
Speaker 4: I think the most interesting aspect of this, though, is
the situation with the zone, because I know how much
trouble you have with streaming.
Speaker 5: I hate this well.
Speaker 4: The Zone. It's a big player in the world of
sports media right now. Champions League NFL, there's an NHL component, boxing, PGA,
pretty much pretty much everything. This will allow the CFL
to air its product if streaming you know where. Streaming
is available to over two hundred countries outside the US
and Canada. It's it's it seems to be the wave
of the future. Hate it and the present.
Speaker 5: Hate it now. Listen to me, horrible idea to put
twenty one cer. No one supports the CFL more than
you and I. In this market, I will not be
paying I okay, listen to me. We live in a
very expensive city. I'm really worried. The Canucks have gone there. Now,
lines have gone there, now, the white Caps have gone there.
Where is this heading in two, four, six, eight, ten
years done? Are we going to be paying four hundred
bucks a month to watch our local teams? I don't
know if the White CAP's going to be here, but
this is ridiculous. A family of four. Right now, the
dollar is stretching. You know what, whether your kids are
in sports, are in there in university, every penny counts
now because we live in a very expensive city, the
dollar is stretching and stretching and stretching. Look, I already
paid for TSN and Sports Net. I'm not paying anymore.
I'm not paying anymore. These guys can go on and shot.
There's twenty one games up you know where. I'm not
going to pay for this.
Speaker 4: And I'm so you don't watch the You don't watch
the Canucks game on Amazon?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: I no, I get the Amazon game. I'll tell I'm
not telling you how I get the Amazon game. But
not just done. Listen, I'm not paying. And nobody supports
the CFL more than you and I. We went to
Empire Stadium, watch the Eskimo's Warm Moon.
Speaker 4: You can well, there's there's an amount of there's a
mount of an amount of risk to that, to this.
I get this, But are they supposed to turn down
this money?
Speaker 5: They're not supposed to turn But don't expect me to pay.
I'm not going to pay. It's not a penny comes
out of my bocket for these guys.
Speaker 4: Is it because you don't want to pay or because
you can't figure out how to access streaming.
Speaker 5: No, just they're a little both. First of all, don
why the hell am I paying for TSN and sports Net?
Speaker 4: And then more on.
Speaker 5: Top of that, why like why like I I mean,
family budgets are going through the roof and cable internet
all this well, you know, people are cutting out the
what's the ground line?
Speaker 4: The phone?
Speaker 5: Everyone's just got sells now. But Donnie, it's it's just
if you keep adding twenty twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Times, what bothers me a boat streaming?
Speaker 5: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4: And Ryan, you can chime in here. I know we're
we're shirt on time here, but you can chime in
here for a second. You you, if you subscribe to
the zone, what will you be paying per month if
you're interested in the CFL games come twenty twenty seven,
and we don't know what the price will be, you know,
come a year or two from now.
Speaker 7: That's that's the thing. Today's today's cost is twenty five
bucks a month.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so there's those in the extra charge per
game twenty five bucks a month.
Speaker 7: Twenty five bucks a month, and there's pros and cons
and one of the pros is in Canada.
Speaker 8: The Zone is the hub for the NFL, NFL, if.
Speaker 7: You're an if you're if you don't have cable, and
especially for people that the favorite team is in the Seahawks.
Like my brother's a massive Indianapolis Colts fan. The only
way he can watch Colts games for the most part
is through the Zone. So if you have the Zone now,
you're also gonna get the CFL. And that's a that's
a nice promotional vehicle for the CFL.
Speaker 4: No doubts, league, boxing, golf, some NHL content as well.
If they were going just about the CFL, if they were.
Speaker 7: Going to some unknown or if they were launching their
own streamer or something, I'd be even more correct.
Speaker 4: I just get upset with that mL I know it's changed,
but that Apple deal with with MLS where and this
still bothers me with streaming, how it's changed. It was
supposed to be let's say, ten dollars a month and
that was it. But now it's like all of a sudden,
I'm watching a movie or I'm watching a sporting and
there's ads I wasn't supposed to be the case, or
I'm paying extra for that movie or for for that.
Sports supposed to be like that. No, it's changed. It's
supposed to be better than cable and like financially speaking,
and it's not. I'm sorry, it's not. Especially if you
add it all up, you get get Apple, if you
get the Zone, if you've got cable on top of that,
which most sport sports fans do.
Speaker 5: There you go, why should I? So that's one hundred
and eight box we got to break? But that is ridiculous.
So the white Caps want you to pay extra to
watch extra. The Canucks want you to pay extra, Like
where the hell are we heading?
Speaker 4: Where? Where are we going here? Like in you got
to ask Patrick? You get upset Stuart Johnson. I'm getting
mixed up with Patrick. Patrick Johnson had a very good
article in the Province today.
Speaker 5: Or talk about your buddy Heronic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shipping him to the San Jose future captain of
the Sharks. Okay, here's what's coming up on the showcase.
The hand signals, I get it, we got to break
DTMZ is it just me? Coming up in the eleven
o'clock hour, John Shannon mister Television, he'll talk about the
CFL deal and about the Stanley Cup playoffs. Of course,
Big Ryan the Twitter guy coming up later this hour
and up next from the Athletic and he's got a
forward who are centered and not not who you think
not named Gavin McKenna who he prefers over caleab Maholtre Wow. Okay,
so I heard him on six fifty today Thomas Drants
from the Athletic. Next Donny Dello the team on.
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Vancouver just before we bring and Thomas Drantz from the
Athletics some just awful news man. The sports world around
these parts around Canada has been hit hard lately. This
is so strange. Yeah, this is from the NHL Alumni Association,
devastated to share that Claude Lemieux has passed away at
the age of sixty. Born in Buckingham, Quebec, Claude was
selected by the Montreal Canadians round two of the eighty
three NHL at Your Draft. He went on to win
a const My Trophy and three Stanley Cups with the
three different teams, the Haves, the Devils and the Avalanche.
Ricky brought in the torch just the other day at
the Bell Center and he looked great. Sixty years old.
My Lord God bless him. Claude Lemieux leaving us a
tough transition and transition. We're going to make it. Thomas
Drantz joins us from the Athletic Thomas, are you sir?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's terrible news. I mean, man, you had to
love the way Lemiue competed as a player. You know,
some of my earliest memories were just absolutely yelling at
my television, mad at the guy, because you know, the
ninety six as that just steamrolled the Canucks in the playoffs,
and Lemiu had been a big.
Speaker 3: Part of it.
Speaker 9: I loved his game, like, I just loved watching him
play as a competitor, obviously at a long career post
hockey too, and it was cool to see him in
the jersey.
Speaker 4: Like just this week, Yeah, looking great talking yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 9: Rest in peace, man, like rest in peace to an
absolute legend, like honestly one of the purest competitors winners played,
played the game exactly the way. You know, you hate
him when your team's playing against him, you love him
when he's on your team, Like just the the absolute
picture of what I like when I watch hockey, and
he sort of epitomized I agree.
Speaker 4: And you're being on there, Thomas. You you hated him,
but you wanted him on your team. Yeah, Brad Musham
would be in that category as well. Sixty years old
puppy and he leaves us. Okay, another tough transition. I
heard you on six fifty Radio today, excellent hit as always.
You were going on about Sweden's Vigo Bjorke, and it
sounded to me like if he was there at number three,
tell me if I'm wrong, Vigo Buorke. It's from another show.
I believe that that phrase, But tell me if I'm wrong,
Vigo Bjork is there. Caleb Maholtro is there. It sounded
like you would take Vigo Bjork.
Speaker 9: I think there's an argument to take Vigo Bjorke ahead
of iver Stenberg. Now, look, I want to contextualize this, gentleman.
I've been I've been crunching the numbers, and I've been
watching the tape, and I've been putting together a series
which your viewers can go check out. At the Athletic
started making the case for everybody, making the case for
iber Stenberg.
Speaker 3: It's a very impressive case.
Speaker 9: Making the case for Kayla Malhotra also a wildly impressive case,
by the way, a really good prospect. Making the case
for the defenseman at the top of the class. I
really like Carls out of Prince George, western Canadian kid.
He really stood out to me when I was watching
the video of him just mashing guys and looking at
the data and talking to scouts around the business. Tomorrow
I'm going around the B York piece, and I'd liked
Byork's game from early on in this process, but this
was the first time, over the course of the last
ten days that I'd really sat down and done the
deep dive, and the takeaway that I have from Byork
is like I'd sort of liked him as a guy
who I thought would be undervalued in this class. I
think it's more than that. I think this guy's got
a legit prodigy level profile. I mean, we're talking about
a guy who, you know, at sixteen in the j twenty,
which is sort of the Swedish version of the CHL,
was leading.
Speaker 3: Scorer ever ever.
Speaker 9: He's the most productive sixteen year old ever in that league,
and second place is twenty four points behind him. Twenty
four points behind him, even if you go on a
point per game basis, Even if you go on a
point per game basis, he's number one ever, and it's
by a huge margin, only him, William Nilander, and this
six foot two center Milan Sunstrom, who will talk about
more twelve months from now, gentlemen, especially given that he's
from warren Skoldsvik, the hometown of Hendrik and Daniel Sedin.
They're the only three guys who've ever been over a
point and a half per game in that league at sixteen,
and he's number one by a mile over those other
two guys. He played pro hockey in Sweden at the
age of sixteen. He played one game, which also is
wildly impressive, especially given that you know he's under five
point ten and he scored a goal. He scored a
goal in his one game against professionals men at the
age of sixteen. This season, at seventeen, he plays in
the SHL, which is the top Swedish profession league. It's
very rare, like the list of centers that play Sahl
hockey at the age of seventeen is is short, you know,
like in the early nineties we're talking Peter Forsberg, we're
talking Nicolas Sunstrom. Late nineties we're talking Hendrik Sadeen. Last
fifteen years we're talking Mika's Banajad. We're talking Leo Carlson,
Marco Casper, like we're talking, you know, the best of
the best, yoel Eric Sinek. Right, it's only like ten
guys on the list that even do it, that even
do it, and this guy outproduced all of them except
for the guys from the early ninties. Like this guy
had you know, eighteen points in forty eight games. His
role expanded as the year went along. He ended up
playing twenty minutes a night and being point per game
in the playoffs. He's the most productive seventeen year old
SAHL centerman this century, this century, and by a lot,
by a lot, Like he's much better at the SAHL
level as a seventeen year old than Edrick Sidein was.
This is again prodigy level stuff. This is crazy and
the way gentlemen after that. After that, so he gets
called up. They plays the whole season in the SHL.
Then they send him back to the j twenty, back
to his sort of junior level team after they're eliminated
in the playoffs. And the junior level team without him
was like mid They were fourth in the league. They
ground out a first round series win. It's the best
of three. So in five games against Moto they don't
lose again, three straight sweeps. He has twenty points and
nine games against his peers, twenty points and nine games
and they only allow twelve goals against. They win all
nine games against the three best teams in j twenty,
he's just air dropped back to his peer group and
single handedly wins a championship. Now he's playing at the
Worlds and he's playing eighteen minutes against NHL players.
Speaker 3: He's winning face offs against.
Speaker 9: Ryan O'Reilly, he's coming out of board battles against Mark
Schifley with the pawk.
Speaker 3: He's almost point per game. He's got six points in
seven games.
Speaker 9: He's playing fifteen to sixteen minutes a night for the
senior men's national team in Sweden. And so before this
you could say credibly like, well, you know, he's five
nine and a half and he's not an elite skater.
How's it gonna work against Stanchel players. It's like, well,
I'll tell you how it's gonna work against Stanchill players.
This guy always has the puck. He always find ways
to produce. He's a right handed centerman who's already capable
of winning draws. Like what box doesn't this guy check.
You want a competitor, he's got it. You want a
defensive difference maker, complete game, he's got it. You want
a faceoff winner, he's got it. You want a right
handed centerman, he's got it. You want a scoring profile
that jumps off the page, He's got it. And by
the way, seven months younger than Stenberg is. Like, I've
talked at length about Stenberg's historic SHL season well when
he was seventeen, like when he was the age b
York was this past season, Byorke was way more productive
at the same level in the same league. So for
to take Stenberg, like, I'd probably rate Stenberg higher personally,
but I think there's a conversation to be had. I
think we're sleeping on this guy. This profile, to me,
is very much in the mix for the best non
McKenna profile in this draft class, and I kind of
hadn't realized it until I really dove into it all.
I just came away being like, you know, because again
I'm making the case for these guys, what's the case
to take this guy at third?
Speaker 3: Overall? What's the case?
Speaker 9: I made the case for every guy, and this was
the one that I found the most compelling, maybe even
more so than I verse Tenver.
Speaker 5: There is a case to be made for Manny Maholtro
to be the next head coach of the Canucks. They
started negotiating early this week. It's Thursday, still no deal.
What's going on there?
Speaker 9: Well, negotiation, right, was what was in the air earlier
this week. Rick, as you touched on on this program.
I'm not surprised, not surprised by that at all. We've
talked about this at length. Right, Malhotra is not just
a top candidate here, He's a top candidate period. You
talked about profiles, Right, Every team in the NHL wants
top American league head coach. Guy who's won a championship
at that level. Guy with significant experience in the NHL
both as a player and and on a coaching staff,
which he has across seven years on Travis Green's staff
in Vancouver and then.
Speaker 3: Sheldon Keeps in Toronto.
Speaker 9: You want a good communicator, a guy who has close
relationships with players. How about a guy who can develop
young players and isn't afraid to play them. This is
what every team in the NHL wants. This is what
Manny Mahotra offers. I'm not surprised that it's taking a
little bit of time. I would have hoped that it
would get done this week, but you've still got Monday
before most of Canucks brass heads to Buffalo for the
NHL Draft combine, I suppose I don't think the twins
are going, So I guess.
Speaker 3: Have I frozen there?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, anymore, froze there.
Speaker 9: I froze there, looking like a Karen or something, right like,
looking like I was about to ask you for the manager.
Speaker 3: Anyway, anyway, so you still have time to get this done.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I think the longer this drags out, the
more questions will have about, you know, like is this
a financial issue, because because I don't think we think
it's an evaluation issue, right, we think that we think
the commands of very high on Malatrap.
Speaker 3: They should be. He's clearly the right fit for the job.
We'll see when they get it done.
Speaker 4: Froze froze there like a Karen beauty Wow.
Speaker 5: Wow wow and wow. Uh one other question. Uh, we're
we're all being uh, we're all concentrating on Manny the draft.
What about July first? They got some money to play with,
you know, like you know, like you know, Ryan's out
there talking agents and yeah, you know he's talking agents
right now and looking for you know, side speed and skill,
but good teammates, looking let's go quiet. I'm going to
be interested to see what they spend on July first,
how much they spend, because I think it's going to
be significant.
Speaker 3: Really, I hope it is. I think it should be.
Speaker 9: The So, okay, there's there's a lot to pack here,
and I'll try to do it as straight manus straightforward
a fashions.
Speaker 4: Just don't freeze like Karen. Don't freeze like Karen.
Speaker 3: I will try not to freeze. It's like a Karen. Okay.
Speaker 9: So the cap is going up, right, And so in
the past ten years, every dollar you spent in free
agency was a dollar that you couldn't use to like
get a player for free on the trade market, right,
I mean the Oliver b York Strand for two mid
round picks type trade. Right, eighty percent of the league
was available for free and all you.
Speaker 3: Had to have was cap space.
Speaker 9: So when you spent cap space on July one, it
was a problem, right, It was inefficient, it was suboptimal
for teams. Now the CAP's going to go up and
there's no one in free agency right, which means that
talent is going to concentrate and there's going to be
more cap space. Teams are going to have more cap
space than good ways to use it on players worth
the cap space.
Speaker 3: Okay, and so for a team like the.
Speaker 9: Vancouver Canucks, who are the thirty seven team in the league,
the least talented team in the league, this is a
problem because you do not want teams to be able
to keep their players. You want cap pressure to cause
teams to have to make hard decisions with their players,
like the Tampa Bay Lightning did when the Vancouver Canucks
traded for JT.
Speaker 3: Miller, for example.
Speaker 9: Without that, talent won't flow around the league, and that
is bad for you, the thirty second place team. I
think the Vancouver Canucks should wade into free agency and
throw around silly amounts of money. I think they should
be trying to send a message to every Nick Schmaltz
and Poler in Anaheim, and who is the gentleman who
just signed in Columbus, Charlie Coyle, send a message like, oh,
maybe I shouldn't take this team friendly deal before I
hear what the crazies in Vancouver might offer me like
I literally think they need to send a lightning bolt
around the league. And the way that I'd love to
see it done is you go to high character guys, size, speed,
skill and marketable, marketable on a in trades. My list
would be like Colton Sistans, right handed center in Vegas,
Michael McCarron, right handed center in Minnesota. How about Beck Mallenstein,
local kid, good guy, super fast, skater.
Speaker 3: Physical, hits hard, everything you'd want.
Speaker 9: And I'd look at the right handed defenders, your radishes,
your truba's, all those guys, and I would love to
see the Canucks make huge money offers.
Speaker 3: I'm talking like six million a year for Michael McCarran,
but for two years, two years, other teams are going
to be offering him what two and a half times five? Okay,
that's ten million total.
Speaker 9: I'm offering you twelve over two right, six million times
two only an eight team no trade, right, like a
limited no trade, very small so that I can borrow
him for eighteen months. Get a character, physical, face off,
winning guy, Insulate young players, teach everyone how to be
a pro, do the media thing, Embrace being in Vancouver
and then in eighteen months will retain half of the
deal and trade three million dollar Michael mccairn after we've
juiced his production for eighteen months. Right, you create assets,
you help the environment, and you create this crazy financial
incentive where other teams are going to have pressure to
keep up, which is going to be a critical route
for Vancouver to sort of win the next five to
seven years in the NHL. Like this is a high
revenue team in an intense Canadian market. As the cap
goes up, what your hope is is that some of
those teams where you can get into the Lower Bowl
for thirty five bucks to watch a Stanley Cup contender
are going to struggle to keep up and pay salaries
in one hundred and fifty million dollar upper limit world.
Create the incentive, create the environment where teams are going
to be willing to give you really good players because
they can't afford them, especially if you're spending a lot
of time drafting young players who are more cost controlled.
Speaker 3: Right like that, that's the way that five.
Speaker 9: Years from now, I think the Canucks can begin to
position themselves to come out of this rebuild with rocket boots.
Its on, right and become one of the like catapult
up the league standing. So that's what I want to
see the Canucks do. I want to see them laid
into free agency and spend even though there's not great
players around. And I want to see them be very
scrupulous about limiting term and keeping the ability of the
flexibility in place to.
Speaker 3: Auction those guys off. That's my plan.
Speaker 9: I know it's a week July one, gentlemen, I would
say this is the most important July one in the
history of the Vancouver Connucks.
Speaker 4: Right. I almost froze like a Karen when you said
the Knucks should span on July one, because we all
know there's not a great history there. But it makes
sense with the two year terms. By the way, before
they let you go, you can use this Rick. Did
you know this Milan Sunstrim, who Thomas just talked about,
grandson of Patrick Sunstrom. Put that in your pipe and smoking.
Speaker 5: Patrick Sunstrom, number seventeen. Great in the eighties for the Canucks.
Speaker 4: Great. Great.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't know that you're twenty years old anyways, Patrick.
Speaker 3: Sir Patrick Sunstrom, he was traded to New Jersey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Greg Adams and Kirk McClain, I know you're telling
me about Patrick Sunstrom. I grew up watching the guy
was great, one of the best Swedes in Cannuck's history.
Speaker 4: All right, use that Thomas, and we'll talk to you
next week. Gentlemen, you met Thomas Drants from the Athletic.
That was a big deal, that that deal Patrick Sunstrom,
Milan Suntrium. I guess he's an eligible drafts next year. Said,
but remember that deal was one of Pat Quinn's first
best traits. Greg Adams two Warriors for pastrom had an
eight point game. Yeah, with with the Devils, but it
was a great deal for Vancouver. Okay, our thanks to
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How do you watch the majority of your sports? Look
at this cable is leading the way at sixty two percent,
but streamings is up there thirty eight percent. And there
you go, and the BC lines a new deal. Donny,
twenty one games for the CFL are going to be
on a dazen or whatever that it's just streeting the zone.
I don't know, well it spelled the Dazen. I don't
know why how do you get to zone out of Dazen?
But anyways, Donnie, it's got to stop. It's got to stop.
It's not going to say, here's the thing. Do you
see the white Caps ever release their their numbers on TV?
Speaker 4: No? Do you know why?
Speaker 5: Because they're crap. They're crap, Donnie, their crap. That's why
they don't release their numbers on Apple. Nobody is watching
the white Caps on Apple. Take it to the bank.
Nobody will watch the CFL on the zone.
Speaker 4: But listen. But so you turn down that money.
Speaker 5: I never said that I have an option to watch
on TSN, which I will do the majority the game's ninety.
Speaker 4: We don't have an option though on Saturday.
Speaker 5: Nights, and I will if it's the lines aren't playing,
I don't care. But if the lines are playing, I'll
try and figure out how to get the game.
Speaker 4: But setup just stop, dog, I will know.
Speaker 5: I will try and figure out how to watch the
Lions if they're on this at zone, but I'll let me.
I'll figure I might have to go to a buddy's house,
a buddy's friend's house.
Speaker 4: The how cheap what you're talking about, I'm not it's
not about it. You're not about Your job is to
stay up to date in the world of sports. You can't.
And it's not just about the CFL or NFL games
on the zone. It's the way of the future with it.
Speaker 5: The way the future is me sitting on my couch
and not paying extra for all these stupid sports. I
shouldn't have to pay extra.
Speaker 4: I'm paying. It is frustrating because I will I will
say this. It is frustrating because we pay so much
for cable, thank you, and then you gotta pay cable
Slash Internet, and then you got.
Speaker 5: To pay for Netflix, and then you gotta pay for this.
You don't have to pay for that. Okay, okay, fine,
I'm just saying I don't need my TV cable bill
to be two three four hundred bucks a month. So
what would ridiculous.
Speaker 4: We're going to have Stuart Johnson on the show when
your your advice, I'm gonna tell him. Your advice to
him would be don't take the deal. I never said that.
Speaker 5: My advice to him is make sure it's a low
low number that you got to pay to pay to
play or pay to watch.
Speaker 4: If it look.
Speaker 5: Twenty one games? Actually, what would.
Speaker 4: Your reaction be if you found out there was a
five hundred million dollar deal on the table for the CFL,
which you know, a year after year needs help financially
and they said no because people like Rick Dollywall don't
want to. I think it's because you can't figure how
to operate.
Speaker 5: Okay, So now we're at the Lions, Canucks make you
pay what on Amazon? Amazon? White Caps make you pay
on Apple? So the white Caps, Lions and the Canucks
are going to make you pay a watch ridiculous? This
is this is one hundred and.
Speaker 4: Eight dollars a month if you got all of them,
if you got the Zone, sports Net plus TSN, Apple
TV and Amazon Product Watch has NHL.
Speaker 5: I'm paying for SPORTSN, TSN. I don't want to pay
and I will not pay for the other three. I'm
not going to pay for it. I know I'm not
going to pay for it. And if I do have
to go, I'll go to a buddy's house or we go.
Speaker 4: Okay, this early is it just me? Or if is
it just me? This is an onside or if it
can afford an electric merced then he can afford to
pay for streaming services that provide sports content and Rick
can shop around instead of going to save On.
Speaker 5: For overpriced I only go to save On for one reason.
It's two and a half minutes away. Otherwise I wouldn't
go to save On. I only go to save On
because it's two and a half minutes away. It's an
easy in and out Donnie Safeways about twenty thirty No,
not twenty thirty five, ten minutes away convenience.
Speaker 4: It is for Look, I'm in the business. I have
to watch like if I'm not at the games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, that's right. But I'm not. You're not
gonna get me.
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see what the what the numbers are.
CFL television numbers are very good. I mean that's wise.
They wouldn't demand this kind of money or command this
kind of money.
Speaker 5: And it's not being about cheapness.
Speaker 4: It's not about cheapness. About cheap No, it's not cheapness.
And you can't figure out the technology. I mean, if
I get figure it out, anybody can. Where are we Ryan?
Speaker 8: It's interesting you're talking about the cheapness.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. Oh I'm cheap.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you're you're you're not in this scenario because
you actually have bucked up for these other things. Oh yeah,
it's interesting.
Speaker 4: It's my job. Your job is to I don't know
what like come on. Well he also he said you're
gonna watch it, So I I got if I have to,
I'll go to a buddy's house or I'll go to
well the bars. Why should you the bars will have it?
Why bars? Why should your buddy pay?
Speaker 5: Will? The bars have to be honest.
Speaker 8: That's one of the big things that these plays.
Speaker 4: The bars have his own No, not all.
Speaker 7: No, that's one of the things a lot of these
places are running into because now you're you're seeing this
uptick in streaming. A bar doesn't necessarily have an Apple
TV that's hooked up to all their TVs they can
just throw on.
Speaker 5: Or maybe they don't have any smart TV.
Speaker 4: They don't have an Internet.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you have to, okay, that smart TV has
to mirror in the entire establishment. It's not one TV
like you would have at home. And so some of
these places are running into issues that you know, they
the older one.
Speaker 4: I think by the time twenty seven rolls around, twenty
twenty seven rolls around. They did.
Speaker 8: But okay, but that business has to be but that
business has to added.
Speaker 5: If they're called streaming.
Speaker 4: Service, I'm gonna get people to help out establishments like that.
Speaker 7: You're gonna add that to their costs and then we're
just gonna pay more for our burgers and beers.
Speaker 4: But you know what, like you know, to Rick's point,
like it was supposed to. This is supposed to be better.
Things are supposed to improve as time goes on. I'm
not so sure this is the case. Having said that,
what's the CFL gonna do. Here's five million dollars over.
Speaker 5: But they're not getting five hundred million for the twenty
one games. Don No, I know it's part.
Speaker 4: It's a total total.
Speaker 5: Don't say that they're getting the OWNE is giving them
five hundred million. They're not.
Speaker 4: They're obviously giving them significant something something.
Speaker 7: To put it this way, Bell Media, ain't we know
that they're not they're not. They're not making up the majority.
Speaker 5: Of that the good old days when we just watched
on CBC and BCTV and that was it. And you
know what, now these guys one game a week on
game a week and we're happy we get our CFL
on CBC. Now these guys are they just want They
just want money, the owners of the white Caps, Lions
and Canucks. So you gotta pay extra, you know what.
Speaker 4: I want to go on on on, Save the white Caps,
Save the Lions. And you won't even buck up for
you know, you don't buck up for tickets. I know that.
And you don't even you don't buck up to watch games.
Speaker 5: You go to the game.
Speaker 4: Next time you complain about you gotta go. You gotta
go out and support the line.
Speaker 5: All those people out there that Donnie and I in
the eighties, don't don't pay extra for the subscription, don't
do it, don't do it.
Speaker 4: When Patrick Sanstrom was lighting it up for the.
Speaker 5: Connuncent on BC TV Game of the Week.
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started regarding this television deal and streaming deal news, and
they wanted again. Stuart Johnson commissioned the CFL on our
show again eleven fifteen, John Shannon in our next segment,
but right now, Big Rye.
Speaker 7: Just quickly we were talking about the streamers and bars
in the previous segment, and somebody pointed out and they
made a good point. The zone is probably exempt from
that because of the NFL. A lot of the bars
might have to zone. Do they have all of them?
Do they have Apple TV for the caps for instance?
Speaker 8: I'm not so sure.
Speaker 4: Ran Like I didn't say this in the previous segment,
but for you to come across as an expert on
bars when you've never had an alcoholic drinking your eye,
that is something else.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I read an
article recently Awful Announcing or The Athletic, but they were
talking about that problem, that being a massive problem for
a lot of you.
Speaker 4: Ever gone to the streets, down to the dirt into
a bar to check things out? Have you in the
last thirty years?
Speaker 5: No bos on the ground?
Speaker 4: Ask anybody at the Mountain Shadow in Okay.
Speaker 7: So we're talking a lot about the CFL today. John Gruden,
this is outstanding. Yesterday, Derek show the photo first. Yesterday
they teased this. So the Lions sent John a package.
He posted a video opening another package and in that
video he had this BC Lions shirt on. So this morning,
John dropped his video. He does this on a social
media is Twitter camp. By the way, his Twitter cant
is barstool Gruden, where he gets these packages from card collectors, teams, whatever,
and he opens them up and then he talks about
the swag and the.
Speaker 8: People that have so today seven and a half minute
long video.
Speaker 7: I wish they could run the whole thing because it's fabulous.
This is a snippet, though, of the video Gruden posted
this morning of him opening up his PC Lions gear.
Speaker 10: But this team, the British Columbia Lions. Look at that
head coach Buck Pierce. Buck Pierce played quarterback in the
CFL a long time.
Speaker 3: I remember him at.
Speaker 11: New Mexico State. He played with BC, played with Winnipeg.
He also calls the plays for the BC Lions.
Speaker 3: Look at this.
Speaker 11: You know who the quarterback of this team is, Nathan Rourke.
I mean this guy with the hell of a player
at Alio.
Speaker 10: You he threw for fifty two last year, ran for
about six hundred.
Speaker 11: You like that right now?
Speaker 3: That's really cool.
Speaker 10: Six great cups, thirteen titles in the division.
Speaker 11: Man, check that out. That's called tradition.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 11: Leo the freaking Lion. That's their mascot. Look at this gear.
Speaker 4: You like this gear?
Speaker 11: You talk about Nathan Rourke. You know who else played
quarterback here?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 11: Condredge Holloway my good friend for a year. I look back.
Joe Capp, Joe Capp.
Speaker 10: Remember him in the longest yard, former head coach and
Cal played for the Vikings.
Speaker 11: He led the league four years in a freaking row.
Speaker 4: And he goes on and on. It's very good and maybe.
Speaker 7: He looked up the Lions and memorized all this stuff before.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure. It's fantastic.
Speaker 4: Condridge Halloway was a big, big deal. Oh yeah, well
and one year with the Lions, as he mentioned, and
Jill Capp was a big oh yeah yeah. He would
know those names for sure.
Speaker 7: And look at and gruden Is and I mean disrespect.
He's a football nerd. It wouldn't surprise me if he
knew all about Nathan Rourke and Buck Peers and all this.
Nathan I Nathan had a really good college career, and
of course the story with his brother as well, Curtis.
But just fabulous again, if you have time today later today,
seven and a half minutes is he's rifling through all
this gear, but he's just going on on and on
them with the Lions.
Speaker 5: Really great stuff.
Speaker 4: When you talk to NFL people about the CFL, one
thing that amazes you is, well, one thing that gets
driven home is how small the football world is. Yeah,
they know so many people. Of course they do. You know,
there's so many Americans who come up to play in
the Canadian Football League. The connections are many. It really
really hits them. They have I I've always said this,
I think that people have more respect for the CFL,
maybe even more than Canadian football fans are people involved
in the NFL because they respect the great athletes up
here and they know Joe Thaisman raves about the CFL
and his time in Toronto. Doug Doug Flutey, are you
kidding me? Getting choked up?
Speaker 5: It's banana, But listen, Doug Flutey. Does he do what
he does if he doesn't come up to Canada first?
Speaker 4: No? No, well, actually it was in the NFL first.
You have to come up to the CFL, back to
the NIM.
Speaker 7: More recent I mean, I talk all the time about
Cam wake tam Way, caamwake Man like he was a stud,
an absolute stud in state.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bobo Billivic found him at a camp outside of Maryland.
He went to the wrong camp. Bob brought him back
and Cam Wake you don't think he tells people. I
love the CFL for sure.
Speaker 7: Up next, somebody to us that loves the CFL. John Shannon,
he loves the CFL. And Stuart Johnson commissioned to the CFL.
Speaker 4: We know is mister television. He can talk about the CFL,
streamlin about the national likely playoffs in the passing of Claude.
Speaker 8: Yeah, shocking stuff. We'll talk to Shannon next eleven fifteen.
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you don't mind. Derek Claude Lemieux Montreal Canadians. Great. We
just saw him what two three days ago at the
Bell Center carrying out the torch for the Montreal Canadians
ahead of Game three against the Carolina Hurricanes. Four times
said three times, four times Stanley Cups champion wanted a
couple of times with the Devils also cost my trophy
winner back in ninety four to ninety five with the Devils.
Sixty years old passes away unexpectedly. Again, we just saw him. Look,
he looked great there, sixty years old carrying the torch
and now he's now he's left us as we bring
in John Shannon, John, thanks for doing this, sir. How
are you And was your reaction to Claude Lemus passing.
Speaker 12: The same that you had, Donnie? I mean, he looked
like the powerful Claude Lemieu that we saw so many
years ago. Is you know it was nineteen eighty six
when he came in and became a factor for Canadians
and winning their Stanley Cup against the Calgary Flames, and
then was a huge factor for Montreal and New Jersey
and quite frankly wherever he played, because he was a winner,
pure and simple. This guy knew how to win. He
didn't necessarily become a fan favorite in lots of cities,
but he had that drive to be the best and
that's why he was so good. In his name is
on the Stanley Cup four times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these old school stat lines for him eighty one
points in ninety two to ninety three, which I believe
was a career high. One hundred and fifty five penalty minutes.
You don't see that much much anymore.
Speaker 12: John, No, he and let's face it, he was.
Speaker 3: He was that.
Speaker 12: He was that disturber that a lot of teams wanted
to have. He was like Ken Linzman in so many
ways and could stir things up and create, you know,
opportunities on the ice for his team to take advantage.
He played to the edge most of the games. Sometimes
he played over the edge, but he was certainly somebody
that the teams he played for they valued what he
brought beyond goals and.
Speaker 5: Assists ninety six, Colorado and Detroit, The Brawl. He was
writing The Miser Chris Draper, the Shot, Andy Boy. He
was right in the middle of it. CFL TV deal.
What did you think of it? It's big box, it's
good stuff all except for the streaming aspect of it.
But anyways, all of a sudden, but I just said,
other than the streaming aspect. Uh, your thoughts on the
CFL deal.
Speaker 12: I think in this day and age, the numbers that
they're talking about, you know, the five hundred million over
six years, I think, in this day and age, it's
amazing that the CFL was able to do this, whether
it's conventional television, conventional cable TV like Bell and TSN
and his own And by the way, Rick, do you,
by the way, do you subscribe to the Athletic No?
Speaker 5: So, why why? Why?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 5: Why why would I join?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 12: Because you're I mean, you have grants on all the time.
He's an athletic writer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I but I don't need it. I don't
need it. I don't want it. I don't want to
pay for it.
Speaker 4: I do this show you every day? You need it?
Speaker 12: No, I know this is the way our this is
the way our business is going. This is the way
our business is going.
Speaker 5: But I don't have to like it, John, I don't
have to like it, John.
Speaker 12: Oh no, no, no. But here's the thing. You know,
that twenty five game package that's going to be on
the Zone is going to mean more jobs in our industry.
There's going to be more opportunities for people to earn livings.
I think that's good enough. I mean, I've been a
subscriber to athleticsince Stay one because I wanted to help
employ people. I believe in how the business is going.
Do I don't like it, but I believe in giving
back into the industry. I think it's important to give
back into the industry because it is our life, it
is our business, and that's important. And you know, the
the zone situation is better. Your your poll is interesting,
was it sixty two percent?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Said yeah.
Speaker 12: I guarantee you that those sixty two percent are over
the age of forty, and I bet you that the
thirty eight percent are under the age of thirty. And
that's where young people are going to watch their cord cutters.
They have never had cable in their life, and I
think it's a brilliant move to try to reach a younger,
more vibrant audience, because you know, we're you know, we're
not sitting at home in our grandfather's basement watching cable
TV anymore. And the kids aren't doing that, and they
have to find a way to get to them. And
that's exactly what this his own package will do.
Speaker 5: Okay, but where is this? In eight nine years? Is
your watching sports bill going to be eight hundred a month?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 5: Where does it end?
Speaker 12: Probably it probably, it probably won't be eight hundred dollars
a month, but it's going to be more. It's discretionary, Rick,
it's just do you go to movies? No?
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 5: Why I sit at home? Best seat in the house, John,
is that I'm not twenty one anymore.
Speaker 12: But here, here's the deal. You have relied on the
season ticket holder and and and corporate partners and corporate
sponsors for your entertainment. Why don't you have to pay.
Speaker 8: Part of that?
Speaker 5: You don't have It's an option. It's an option in life.
It's an option. I don't have to have Netflix, but
I do have Netflix. And Ryan Walter. Ryan Walter told me.
Speaker 12: A minute, so you would rather you'd rather watch that
Michael Jackson documentary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, don't ask that.
Speaker 12: Then watch the b then watch then watch the BC Lions.
Speaker 5: But the Netflix is a family decision. I'm not the
only one consuming it. The BC Lions on the dazen
Or design that is a singular. You have to like
the league and the team.
Speaker 4: But it's not Rick. You also get the NFL, you
get the NHL, you get Champions League.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm stuck in the John, John, I'm stuck in
the eighties. I'll never get out of the eighties. That's
the bottom line.
Speaker 12: By the way, Sunstream was the second best suite prior
to the twins that played for the Canucks.
Speaker 5: Thomas absolutely, Thomas Gredeen was number one. Absolute smil Gardeen,
Fraser and I don't need the zone and I don't
need the Zone to tell me that Thomas Gredeen was
the best week.
Speaker 12: But I'll tell you what, though, if we went back
to your world where you had Bernie and John doing
games on Wednesdays, you had a Hockey Night on Saturday,
you'd be so pissed off on that Tuesday game at
the Coliseum that wasn't on television.
Speaker 4: We were so happy to get that five o'clock game
on Saturday night.
Speaker 5: We were every three months.
Speaker 4: We were happy to get one Canuck game a week.
Speaker 12: That's any way, Donnie, Donnie, the contract called for four
Canuck games a year.
Speaker 4: Was it that many?
Speaker 5: It was four?
Speaker 12: And I knew that was because the only reason I
knew that on Hockey Day was because I got to
produce them. Yeah, I mean I get I got to
come home four times a year to produce Canut games
at five o'clock.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine? Well, Rick wants to go back to that.
Speaker 5: I'm done. I'm not gonna stream. I don't want to stream,
and I will never stream. Bottom line anyways.
Speaker 12: But you have, but you have, you have Netflix.
Speaker 5: But that's a family decision. Everybody watches it. The sports
are different, your kids aren't. The sports are different. I
got nobody in the house watch the CFL other than me.
So that's my decision. Crave I don't know, No, I
don't know. I don't got Crave. I don't have Crave.
Why would I have Crave?
Speaker 4: It's kind of a catch all, pretty good product.
Speaker 5: I'm just an old I'm John. I'm an old fashioned guy,
and I I'm really having problems with What do you do?
Speaker 4: What are you just listening again to the radio and
that's it?
Speaker 5: Hey, I would I would love to listen to Jim
Robson on the radio like I did in the eighties.
It was the greatest thing ever, right, But now technology
we got a new world and guess what, I'm having
a tough time with it.
Speaker 12: In the moment, the moment that Canuck game is not
televised next year for some reason or another.
Speaker 4: He'll stand.
Speaker 12: You would have a you would have a fit. You
would have a fit. Rick, I mean, it's unbelievable. You know,
I can't believe.
Speaker 3: How old are you?
Speaker 5: How old are you? I'm getting up there. I'm not
a spring chicken and I'm not twenty one anymore.
Speaker 4: Or are you?
Speaker 12: Are you fifty yet?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're younger than John.
Speaker 5: I'm over fifty. I'm over fifty five.
Speaker 12: It is My point is I'm going to be seventy
next month.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get over it. I'm having I'm having John, you
made the best point. And Rick, you go on and
on about our business and how it's dying. It seems
to be any support people in our business. John's bang on.
Speaker 5: Okay, So walk up so so I hold that all
that where's the where's the zone, where's the zone? Gonna
do the CFL game America in in the US?
Speaker 4: What where? Where?
Speaker 5: Where's the talent? Where's their studio?
Speaker 12: Oh No, it's gonna be all it's uh, it's all
gonna be Canadian.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I don't
know know.
Speaker 12: That's that's the thing is that this is like they
you know, I for the most part, I think Amazon
is about ninety percent Canadian of the people they have
hired to work on their hockey package. I mean, and
you should ask Stewart this. This is a good question
for Stu.
Speaker 4: Yeah, market the.
Speaker 12: Production that's going to be done for his own will
it be Canadian? Because that's he would understand and appreciate
that as much as anybody that's you know, fifty to
sixty new jobs, uh doing doing football across the country.
Speaker 4: Rick doesn't care not say that. John, We're way over
time here. But this has been great, great conversation. We
didn't even get into what happened last night in Montreal.
Next week we'll talk Stanley Cup playoffs. John, Thanks for this.
Speaker 12: Say hello to Stewart for me.
Speaker 4: You bet. Stuart Johnson coming up a CFL commissioner. There
you go. That's that's all we have time to talk
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today announcing a new media deal involving TSN, Dezone and
YouTube are reported six year deal starting in twenty twenty
seven worth five hundred million dollars. This is on top
of Stuart's rule changes and scheduling alteration and Stuart joins
us now Stuart Johnson's CFL commissioner. Thanks for doing this, sir,
How are you How do you have time to do
this interview? Aren't you planning tomorre moves more bold moves?
Speaker 1: You know I would never miss this one. I went home,
I got change, put a suit back on, so take
this interview. I'm pleased to be here.
Speaker 4: Well, you got us beat with the suit. I'll tell
you that it might be obvious Stewart, and maybe it
comes down to dollars and cents, But why does this
deal make sense for the Canadian Football League? Well?
Speaker 1: I think this is a transformational change that's going to
happen with the CFL. You know, first up, we couldn't
be more pleased to be renewing with our friends at
Bell Media, who've probably been the single greatest supporter of
the CFL over the last forty years in terms of
a partner, and having them come back and be the
home of a great Cup for another six years after this,
I think is fantastic. They've got the they are one
of the most powerful domestic media companies and they're going
to drive our storytelling, our game forward here in Canada.
And now we can welcome on board to Zone to Zone,
the global sports entertainment leader with some of the best
platform that is out there, and incredible distribution across every
single device and a new way of telling stories. So
more voices talking about the CFL. And of course we
were so happy to talk about our new partnership with
YouTube that's going to have even more content flowing through
the biggest video platform in the world, and having them
tie their name and their marketing efforts to the CFL.
I think it's just great for the entire CFL community.
Speaker 4: Stuy, what do you say to people like my partner here, Rick,
who aren't comfortable dealing with and or paying for them
new fangled streaming services.
Speaker 1: Why I think you should say, Hey, what's the best
way for me to consume the best sport on the planet?
And we've got a domestic partner that's already proven out
how well they can tell those stories, and de Zone
is going to come in and prove that same thing
out there. This is the way the future of of
sports in the ecosystem of media. And we have now
got two distinct voices telling CFL stories, both of them
on outstanding platforms. And now also we have the biggest
sports platform in the world, taking CFL content to over
two hundred countries. It couldn't be more exciting, Stuart.
Speaker 5: We also live in one of the most expensive countries
in the world and the dollar is stretching for families
more and more and more. The White Caps are on
Apple out here, and their numbers are not great on Apple.
Is there a little bit of a concern Stuart, that
everyone's not going to jump to Dezone?
Speaker 1: I think when de Zone comes out with their new production,
they're going to use the backbone of a production house
that produces over one hundred thousand events a year to
the Canadian front end of that production and show us
exactly how they plan to tell our stories. I think
that's going to be incredibly exciting and people are going
to appreciate that.
Speaker 5: The new TV deal. Talk about the salary cap now
it's expected to go up a Stewart. That's got to
be great because you're going to have more talent. You
can the more players, more money, more talent. I mean,
this is going to be a good effect all the
way around.
Speaker 1: Well, look, we're thrilled where we landed from a financial perspective.
I think I've talked to you guys before. You've asked
me what I was looking for and what the league
was looking for in our next media deal, and we said, look,
we've got to optimize against three things. We want to
maximize our revenue, we want to have a broad reach,
and we want to be able to find new audiences.
And I think this combination of Bell Media, Dezone and
YouTube as a premier partner, I think that accomplishes all
three of those things. And from a revenue perspective, we
aren't confirming any numbers, we haven't spoken publicly about any numbers.
I will say that it is a significant increase from
where we stand today in terms of overall dollars, and
that of course is going to have a wonderful flow
through impact and also allow more investment into this league.
Speaker 4: Talking with Stuart Johnson of the Canadian Football League. This
is the first time we've had you on in a
long time, Stuart, and we apologize for that. But the
new playoffs structure, we haven't talked to you about that.
Eight of nine teams are going to be making the playoffs.
What's the thinking there, because a lot of people are
going saying, well, back in we used to make fun
of the NHL when sixteen of twenty one teams made
the playoffs, what about this?
Speaker 1: I think there's lots of perspectives you can have on playoffs.
Let's start. Let's start with the point of view that
playoffs are the most important and the highest games of
consequence in any league. And we have the Great Cup,
the single greatest championship in this country, and our current
playoffs structure allows for a team to get there by
winning one game, and I think so a lot of
different viewpoints. A lot would say that's not really an
effective playoffs system.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 1: What I love about this is it rewards. It rewards
your record in the regular season. If you don't come
in the top two in each division, you're going to
have a long road to try and get to the
Great Cup and win it. It's introducing basically a playing
round and that I think is going to be great
for there at the end of the regular season as
teams battle out to host playoff games. The host of
a playoff game over the last five years as one
eighty percent of those games. Every game is going to
matter and we're going to have more exciting playoffs. We're
even going to have the opportunity for a rematch in
the playoffs. So I'm really looking forward to how this
is going to play out. I think it's very exciting.
Speaker 5: Is Stuart, We got an issue with our soccer team,
the white Caps might leave town, BC Place issue, revenue issue.
What about the BC Lions and BC Place And are
you overall happy with the growth of Lions the last
couple of years.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I saw something about John Bruden, Yeah,
opening up the BC line merchandise. He seemed really into it.
And when we've got John Bruden who is so powerfully
speaking about the greatness of the CFL and and particularly
the BC Lions, I think that's a good step forward. Look,
I've talked to ownership with Amar at the Lions as
well as Dwayne and that that front office. They're excited
about this upcoming season. They're excited to play at you know,
in Colowna, but also back back home at BC Place,
and you know, we're looking at a very strong future together.
Speaker 4: And very quickly, if you don't mind, Stuart, first of all,
and I think you touched on this, will does Zone
be using Canadian broadcasting talent?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are looking to hire a Canadian broadcasting talent.
I'm going to let them speak to their overall philosophy.
You can bring them on and where they'd love to.
You know, they're the head of the Zonne here in Canada,
has roots in Alberta and Saskatchewan. When we first got
started talking about a potential partnership, those early conversations were
about watermelons on heads of that she remembers throwing up
in front with her family. So they've got a great
connection to this league and I know that they're going
to have voices that are going to resonate with see
a band.
Speaker 4: And very quickly, what's your next move Stewart. Yeah, you've
made some bold ones Like I said, oh.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm just gonna put my feet up on my
desk and relax, and that won't be the case I'm
just too excited.
Speaker 4: We have luck.
Speaker 1: We have the right ownership group, the right partners, the
reach to just grow momentum and overall grow this league.
And I'm so energized by that looking forward to where
this season which gets started and I cannot wait till
next Thursday, but also running through and outstanding twenty six
and then into twenty seven with all the new things
that are going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, real changes, scheduling alterations, the TV deal and you
put on a suit for us. It doesn't get better
for that, Stuart, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Thank you you.
Speaker 4: Bet CFL chirister Stewart Johnson. And by the way, the
BC Lions play their final preseason game Friday in Winnipeg.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's pretty slick.
Speaker 4: Did he did he convince you that's a good thing.
Speaker 5: Time will tell. We'll see the numbers.
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Speaker 8: Sergio Momesso in the Cannocks flying skate uniform.
Speaker 4: Former Montreal Canadian. He was a broadcaster as well.
Speaker 5: I loved Mamesa in the playoffs in ninety four he
was great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, scored a big goal against the Leafs.
Speaker 5: The grit that against.
Speaker 4: The Leafs in the Western Conference final. Back in the
playoff type Guy, Okay, We're good, Ryan Yep. DTMZ next
our thanks to Stuart Johnson, Donny Dolly, the team on Check.
Speaker 5: It's eleven thirty two on a Thursday morning. It is
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a DTMZ. Canada winning at the World Ice Hockey Championships
over in Switzerland for nothing over the Americans. Devastating hit
suffered by Evan Bouchard in the first period, Ryan Lindgren
of the crack and laying him out. He got thrown
thrown out of the game. That was tough to watch.
Sidney Crosby gets his first goal after grabbing nine assists.
I think it was non assist. But also Rick Sweden
is playing. That was a quarterfinal game for the Canadians,
by the way, significant in that they advanced and that
remember last year they lost in the quarterfinals. They were
up set by Denmark. But Sweden has a one nothing
lead over Switzerland early on. Who's got the goal.
Speaker 5: Linus Carlson of the Vancouver Canucks. He is having a
great world. Boy, that guy could hit twenty goals next year.
Done with the Canucks, I won't be surprised.
Speaker 4: And one of the people who assisted on his goal. Yep,
he's on the Canucks payroll. Oliver Ekman Larson.
Speaker 5: Oh, Canucks are paying a lot of people not to
work next year.
Speaker 4: Not just what does that upset you so much?
Speaker 5: I don't like what do you think it's normal? You
think every team in the NHL has got five people
that are paying the.
Speaker 4: Worst person in the world. It's not. As you've proven
throughout the show, You're not the one paying the money.
Speaker 5: I got people support me, Russ and Victoria. You know
who you are. Russ says, I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And there's just four hundred people who go Dollywall buck
up and John Shannon. Shannon made the good point. You
go on and on about our industry is in flux
right now, it's struggling, and you won't support.
Speaker 5: I just got nothing to do with the people. No,
stop it.
Speaker 4: And that was a good point. Admit it. Okay, let's
get right to birthdays.
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This is our Birthdays, brought to you by Pork Chop
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guy was an eighth ron pick of the Maple Leafs
way back in nineteen seventy five. Duel eight seventy five
Maple Leafs eight thrown dual citizenship Canada and the US.
His father there a year again seventy how many times
I gotta say in nineteen seventy five eight thron leaves.
His father Larry and his uncle Johnny played for the
Red Wings in the fifties. He only played one hundred
and seventy seven games in the NHL, went to Europe,
won a Swiss League title with Davos in nineteen eighty three.
He would retire get into coaching, replace Jim Schanfeld in
Washington is head coach in nineteen ninety six. Year in
ninety six Washington head coach. He ended up in San
Jose after the Sharks fired Darryl Sutter replaced Wilson Ron Wilson.
Ron Wilson, good call.
Speaker 4: Now there are two Ron Wilson's that played in the NHL.
You sure you got I.
Speaker 5: Got the right. The Vancouver Canucks assistant coach under Bob McCammon,
Pat quinn as.
Speaker 4: Fine to deal with.
Speaker 5: So he was great. He was great. He didn't have
a good run in Toronto at the end there. But
then he coached the Americans at the Olympics.
Speaker 4: All right, this guy, boy? Do I remember him?
Speaker 5: On drafted center May won two Stanley Cups with the
Flyers in the nineteen seventies. Would also coach a team
to a Stanley Cup title in Junior B. He beat
out Phil Esposito of the Sarnia Legionnaires for the league
scoring time.
Speaker 4: He played for Sarnia.
Speaker 5: No, he played for the other team at field played
for Sarnia. He won the Junior High Okay, just listen.
Late in the seventy two season, traded to Philadelphia for
Jean pop Man, who was the brother of Dennis Dennis.
He retired following the seventy sixth season at the age
of thirty four. Became the Flyers assistant coach under Fred
Cheryl coach Sue Saint Marie Greyhounds to the Memorial Cup.
Speaker 4: Is it Terry Crisp?
Speaker 5: Yes, it is Terry Crisp who coached the Flames to the.
Speaker 4: Number one with Terry Crisp should be what did you
I read his book? Well, hey, coch that's that's the number.
That's not a clue. I'm telling you I read it well.
He was the coach of the Flames when they won
the Stanley Cup. But I remember as a kid he
was one of the only other players in the NHL
from Bobby or his hometown Perry Sound, Ontario. Perry Sound, Ontario,
and there's probably others.
Speaker 5: And when he tells the story of Brett Hall and
in the American League, they did not get along. Really
good story. All right, let's change sports here. Known for
practicing until his fingers bled widely, consider one of the
greatest guards in basketball.
Speaker 4: History, Brian Adams. Brian Adams played the guitar until his
fingers bled. Remember that cuts like a knife. You should
know that summer of sixty nine. Why would I know
that because you talk to me about how that's a
signature and it's not.
Speaker 5: Cuts like a Knight knife, cuts like a knife, is
Brian Adams signs Sean just so wrong. Anyway, go have
a great video too by Brian.
Speaker 4: The first time I've agreed with you today.
Speaker 5: He played calls basketball for West Virginia Mountaineers, led them
to the Jerry West.
Speaker 4: I knew it.
Speaker 5: The logo, the logo the Mountaineers, Jerry West Boy, Was
he ever great?
Speaker 4: Four Times?
Speaker 8: Is a documentary coming out on him?
Speaker 4: Well, hold on the series and I'm looking forward to that.
But that series winning time, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the depiction of.
Speaker 4: Him wasn't great for him Showtime Lakers.
Speaker 5: He was all him and even after Kobe and I
loved Kobe and Shaq, Kobe and Shack was him too?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 5: This player played six years in the World Hockey Association,
sixteen years in the NHL. Named the Western Hockey Association
All Star Team three times, won the Apple Ques Hockey
wh WHJ, won the af Go Cup twice, three time
runner up for the North Trophy, made the Stanley Cup
Finals three times as a player, NHL record twenty eight
shorthanded goals by defenseman. Played on the nineteen seventy two
US Olympic team as a sixteen year old. Never done.
Speaker 4: But Mark Howe, Markow, I.
Speaker 5: Knew as soon as I said that, I knew You're
gonna get it.
Speaker 4: Mark cow Boy?
Speaker 5: Was he good? Boy?
Speaker 4: Was he good? You know? How how informed we are now?
Are you finished?
Speaker 5: By the way, I'm gone?
Speaker 4: How informed we are now about prospects? I remember my
brother's screaming at me. I was downstairs until come up
and watch the television. Toronto Marlboro's were on TV playing
in the Memorial Cup and Gordy House, two sons were
playing for the Toronto Marboroughs. It was and I didn't
I didn't even know it right. You don't care about
you don't care. You just you don't care. Look less
interested if you try.
Speaker 5: And Brian Adam's best song was cut like a Knife,
and don't even get that's.
Speaker 4: Not the conversation.
Speaker 7: The conversation is it's a signature song and that is
cuts like a knife.
Speaker 4: No, it's not, Yes, it is. You're arguing with Rick.
Speaker 8: If you ask ten people on the street, give me
one Brian Adams.
Speaker 7: Song that's like a knight, Cuts like a night. At
least nine out of ten Cuts like a knife. So good,
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c A. Is it just me? Rick? You're taking a
beating in the bayside inbox.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not because look at Russell Victoria. I agree
with Rick about streaming. I don't want to subscribe to
five different services to watch sports. I prefer cable TV.
I like the guide option. I like the couch option.
I like the fridge option. We are in the minority
wreck Russ and Victoria. Russ gets it.
Speaker 4: Tan Beer.
Speaker 5: Is it just me?
Speaker 4: Or is Rick everything that's wrong with the CFL too
old and not willing to evolve as a human being
or a league. Streaming is the way to go, and
that's from our buddy.
Speaker 5: No, it's not not for me, it's not And anybody
over fifty, streaming is not the way.
Speaker 4: To go, don anybody over fifty, that's not Stu Johnson said,
it's not the market, ding, I don't they value that market.
Speaker 5: But their games on the Zonne are gonna get young
kids to watch. Come on, don, we've been through this.
They get that MGM or what's that guy at the
Great Cup Chris Burn.
Speaker 8: Kelly machine machine gun, Kelly machine gun?
Speaker 5: What do they call him? MGK MGK? They had him on?
Speaker 4: Did it?
Speaker 5: Did a result in fifty thousand new season ticket holders
at every Canadian city.
Speaker 4: You just don't try. You just don't try it.
Speaker 5: Don stop it?
Speaker 4: Uh Jeeves from Surrey is just me. I love seeing
Rick getting grilled and beaten by John Shannon today I
just added the end beat.
Speaker 5: I did not get beaten by John Shann and I
disagree with that.
Speaker 4: You do not support the broadcasting the media industry.
Speaker 5: I don't want fifty I don't want to be told
fifty different ways that you got to watch fifty different
teams fifty different ways.
Speaker 4: Let me read this one is from Pat and Whistler.
We won't bother with his last name. Is it just me?
But the Canucks need more Canadian toughness than sandpaper like
Claude Lemieux, rest in peace to him. Canucks need to
sign Reeves and re sign Douglas for people just tuning in.
Claude Lemieux, a couple of days after carrying the torch
out at the Bell Center before Game three, has passed
away at the age of sixty.
Speaker 5: Just shocking like it we found out this morning, And
what a great text Canucks could use. Three Claude musing
the line of show every team playoffs games he played.
He was a playoff performer. He did everything in the
playoffs at every great playoff performer. Does very sad believe
it or not. If you want to watch the BC
Hockey League on their streaming service. Also, American is sixty
dollars Canadian per month, Joan Nanaimo. It's everywhere. It's everywhere.
It's American League, BC Hockey League, Western Hockey League, Donnie,
it's everywhere.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought you'd support it because it's helping out
to BHL. We care about that league, Martin and north Burnamy,
is it just me? I predict the Montreal Canadians will
come back and beat the Carolina Hurricanes. And I know
why you're laughing because these last three games, and I
am worried for the NHL. That game was dead last
night or Carolina sucked the life out of that incredibly
vibrant building, and I'm worried that the dead pock era
is going to come back. They end up winning the
Stanley Cup. It's the copycat league most leagues are. Our
team's going to play the way the Carolina Hurricanes play.
Elliott Friedman made a great point postgame last night. It
looked like it looked like Carolina had eight people on
the ice. Oh you know what I mean, they were
just fan sali, They were just just everywhere. Montreal set
a record for fewest shots over a three game span
in an NHL playoff series ever.
Speaker 5: And they're also two and six at home. You talk
about what the greatest place to play Hockey's Montreal? Well,
why the hell done are they're two and six at
home in the playoffs?
Speaker 4: Well, Carolina has something to do with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the Citine Twins, uh want a better relationship
between the media and the Canucks. There's no chance they
name heronic captain, which you want.
Speaker 4: See. That's another more proof that you were anti media.
Look you want tell you want to make coronic who
clearly hates the captain and you won't watch CFL games
on his own.
Speaker 5: So how many captains in the NHL do you sit
there and go, oh, you know he's not good with
the media.
Speaker 4: Let's not make it a Canadian market. You need that,
you need to communicate with your fan base.
Speaker 7: You do, well, don't I wouldn't assume, by the way,
they don't need all that stuff with the captain. Under
the last regime, we don't know the stance of Ryan
Johnson and Henry and Danerson.
Speaker 4: You know, a captain.
Speaker 5: We don't know that.
Speaker 7: All that stuff about Heronic was when Rutherford was still here,
which that's no longer the case.
Speaker 4: Uh is it just me? Unsigned? But guys, did you
know Vigo Bjork, who Thomas Grantz talked about, brother of
Wilson York, a fifth front pick of the Canucks in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Canucks drafted him. So if they get view
of Ugo of Yorke Donnie, they could have brothers.
Speaker 4: That's the gist of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then go get the ruck brothers out of
assayers and then you got the twins and it's.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it all works. Brother, and then draft
Milan Sunstrom, grandson of Patrick suns Patrick.
Speaker 5: Next year one of the greatest Canucks suitets to ever play.
What a wonderful thing that was greatest, one of the
greatest Canucks tick one of the greatest Canucks. Patrick Sunstrom was.
Speaker 4: Align with him.
Speaker 5: What's what's his name too? Are you kidding me? Screekle
Petri Scregel was great. Donnie oh man, was he fun
to watch.
Speaker 4: In the days when you only watch games on BCTV
and Hockey Night.
Speaker 5: And it was so simple and so nice and no
streaming and no paying extra money.
Speaker 4: One game every two months. It was great. Okay, we
gotta get going here. Okay, we'll wrap up the show
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Pop question. How do you watch the majority of your
sports cable is winning at sixty five percent, then come
streaming at thirty six percent. So there you go. As
we found out today, CFL games are going to streaming
twenty one of them next year in the new TV deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah twenty twenty seven, the CFLs announced a series for
people that Know and announced a series of new groundbreaking
media deals with Bell Media, Dezone and YouTube starts in
twenty twenty seven. Six years, five hundred million dollars, nine
million dollars per team per year. Hard to turn that down,
no matter what Rick dilling Wall thinks of streaming. We
got pictures, photos, photos.
Speaker 5: Before we get to the photo quickly, I want to
say something. Dean Baines made a donation Donny to the
Canucks for kids. Find out b half for Donny and
Dolly right, he does it every few weeks. Thank you
Dean for doing that. That's above them, beyond Thank you
de Right when we're going the overseas, we're going to Victoria, okay,
and we got a photo featuring our good pal Moreno
Oh love my tour of the team sales and Victoria
Moreno is a joy to deal with. Finally got my
Donnie and Dolly took that's a Ken in Chilliwak.
Speaker 8: And he said he picked up another T shirt as well.
Speaker 4: Do we have time to show what Marina has come up?
Speaker 5: Uh with the darn latest merch?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: We got two new quarters hips we mentioned yesterday and
I've been told they've been dispatched to YouTube by the way,
so they're coming here soon.
Speaker 8: Navy and oh Ray dispatched to YouTube.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, Morena sent them over here to the studio,
not to the band.
Speaker 5: I'm not sending them everybody.
Speaker 4: That was the message. I I'm losing it.
Speaker 5: You are out of it. When's the new shipman getting in?
Speaker 8: And the boonty hat on the left there?
Speaker 5: What's it called the boot boonie?
Speaker 4: If John Gruden can wear a BC Lions helmet, yeah,
Bono could wear this Johnny and Dolly Quarters. I mean
they should send.
Speaker 7: A box over to the YouTube studios and see if
they can open it up for us and do a
video led Gruden today?
Speaker 4: What else you got?
Speaker 5: Thank you too?
Speaker 8: That was Ken and Chilliwack by the way, who sent
us the photo.
Speaker 4: Appreciate it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was great. So Rick will pay for streaming,
but he'll spend lots at the bar on Crown to
watch the game for free. Stop being afraid of technology, Rick, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised you uh you're read that unsigned Is it
just me? But Dolly is so wrong on the CFL.
Just look at what Amar Doman is doing and look
at the performers he has gotten for the concert series openers.
The new target is twenty to fifty with families. They
want new money. Very smart game plan. Put that in
your pipe and smoke it. Rick.
Speaker 5: I'm with Don Die and Nanaimo.
Speaker 4: I'm with Rick.
Speaker 5: The commissioner must be a politician thinking we're all rich. No, Don,
do you know what? So you good? God bless your Don.
If you got five hundred bucks to watch every month
five hundred different sports on streaming, God bless you.
Speaker 4: But you know who else has money problems? The CFL
and turning down five hundred million dollars is probably didn't
turn five.
Speaker 5: Stop saying that, you know that's not It's part.
Speaker 4: Of the deal. The Zone, the streaming service to Zone
is part of the deal five hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5: The bulk of the five hundred million is TSN, not
the zone.
Speaker 4: You know that. Thanks for tuning in, folks, God God
bless Cloud, the meal On behalf of Ryan, Derek Rick,
everybody here at Oh Boy in check. I'm done and
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