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FADE to BLACK host: Jimmy Church guest: Patricia Cori

Tonight, author and researcher Patricia Cori joins us for a conversation about CERN, life, and ancient wisdom... LIVE from the Azores!!!

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Speaker 1: The Smoke Radio for the Masses.

Speaker 2: Headline edition July 8, 1947. The Army Air Force has.

Speaker 1: Announced that a flying disc has been found and is

now in the possession of the Army.

Speaker 2: If the game is rigged, change the game.

Speaker 1: Game changer. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide

would vanish if we were facing an alien threat.

Speaker 2: From outside this world.

Speaker 1: This is Fade to Black with your host, Jimmy Church,

on the Game Changer Radio Network. All right.

Speaker 2: Good evening. How you doing? How you doing? How you doing?

Today is Monday, September 21st, 2026. I'm your host, Jimmy Church.

Speaker 1: Let's do this, man.

Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. This is Fade to black. Yeah. This week

on Fade to Black. Tonight, Patricia Corey is here. Always great.

Tomorrow night, Chase McCarty. Remote viewing. Wednesday night, Whitley Streber.

New book, Transformation 2026. Thursday night, William Henry. Go Beckley Tepe. Yeah,

we're going to do Go Beckley Tepe with William Henry.

How cool is that? That is a perfect night on

the show.

Speaker 1: And.

Speaker 2: I didn't take my sandals off and start operating this

show on my bare feet. I didn't do it. And

so because of that, I get lost in my train

of thought. It's really weird. You have to be, Patricia's

going to enjoy this. You have to, I am about routine. Okay,

so I can't start the show without my alien hacky sack.

Speaker 1: Right?

Speaker 2: It's got to be right here. I rest my left

hand on that. You wonder what this is doing during

the show. It's on my alien hacky sack. It's got

to be right there. I have to have my crystals, right?

So my crystals are all lined up right here. And

then with the center crystal, I've got them on a

line on my desk. And it has to be that way.

And then in front of it, I have a little

guitar pick that points, put the tip on the line,

and it's pointing right at the center crystal. So now

I've got my crystals lined up. I've got my alien

hacky sack, a cup of coffee right here, and a

flashlight at the ready with this hand, and, of course,

a flashlight at the ready with this hand over here.

And if all of this ain't in play, right, bare feet, yes,

I'm barefoot.

Speaker 1: Right?

Speaker 2: I have to be, or the show just doesn't happen. Yeah. Yeah.

The secret's out. The secret is out, uh, really quick. Uh,

so we had a short week last week, uh, because of, uh,

you know, some installation on stuff, uh, with the internet cabling, cable,

fiber optics and stuff out on the street and cutting

into the street. They got everything done. Everything's fine. I'm here.

So that gave me a four-day weekend, which was unbelievably great.

I had a lot of stuff to do and a

lot of stuff to get done. But in the middle

of all of that, I got everything done that I

needed to get done. But Saturday, I went down to

the Transcendence Conference in San Diego. Suzanne Ross, she's amazing.

But I went down and had lunch, and maybe some

of you, I posted a picture of us sitting at

a table with Michelle, right, my producer. She's absolutely amazing.

I love that woman. She's just amazing. And a table,

a giant table full of friends and family. And going

down there and seeing everybody was just something I needed

to do. And it was incredible. And then on my

way back, I had to go to another engagement. And

that was a lot of fun too as well. I

can't get into those details. And then back home. But

I woke up Sunday. And Patricia and I were just

talking about this, about routine. I woke up Sunday in such...

a great mood. Okay. I just want, I just want

to let all of you know, it was just something

that I didn't know that I needed just to get

out and just hang out with friends and family. It

was absolutely incredible. What a lift, right?

Speaker 1: Okay.

Speaker 2: All right. So with all of that coming into today,

very excited not only about the week, but Patricia Corey's

here tonight. And she has been a guest on the

show many, many, many times. And every conversation with her,

I learn something. Thank you, Sensei. Sensei, thank you. Made

the May the gods protect you, Sensei. May the gods

protect you. She's amazing. And we're going to do all

of that tonight. We've got a lot of things to

cover tonight. She's the author of many books. She's an

international speaker and researcher. She lives in the Azores now.

She's on an island living the good life. but researching

and writing for us. Her website is below. I could

go on and on with a long bio read of Patricia,

but that's going to take away from our conversation tonight.

So with that, I'm going to say, welcome back, Patricia.

What's going on, young lady?

Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for the young. It's always great to

be back with you, Jimmy. Thank you for that introduction.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the absolute. I was brief, but, you know,

from the heart. From the heart.

Speaker 1: I feel it.

Speaker 2: We've got a lot to talk about tonight, and I

want to start out with CERN. But before we get there,

how important is routine for you?

Speaker 1: Well, as we were starting to discuss before you came on,

you know, I'm a creative. So I'm a channel, I'm

a psychic, I'm a writer, I'm all over the place.

And if I don't focus my thoughts in the morning,

it's like the old adage about make your bed in

the morning. It's like some people say, well, why bother?

I live alone. Make the bed. Just get some order

in your life. And I feel the same way. When

I get up in the morning, I just always utter

my thank you for being awake, my checking my body

parts to make sure I'm still intact. And then the

thought I have, and I say it out loud, is

what am I going to create this day? And, you know,

I like to remind myself and other people that every day,

no matter how much baggage you've got, every day is

an opportunity. It's a clean slate. Start over. What are

you going to do today? And it sets a tone.

So it's very important to me.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out of balance. You said something very important, though.

I don't know if I've shared this, but since it's

you and I, Patricia, right, is.

I, when I get up, I cannot walk away from

my bed without making it. I can't. I don't even

try to walk away. I can't do it. I can't

do it. I have to turn around and make my bed.

Like what? My mom's going to come in and see

my bed unmade and I'm going to get grounded?

Speaker 1: It's a thing about putting order. And my mother used

to always tell me not to make the bed immediately.

Turn down the blankets. Let it air out.

Speaker 2: What? I've never heard that one.

Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Don't forget we're Italian.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Shake out the bed bugs. Let it air out.

Speaker 1: Your body's been in this under the blankets all night.

Just let it air out. But I find that if

I walk out and I let it air out, I

don't get back to it. So I make a bit

of a drink, get structure, get order, and it's important.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a king-size bed, and I live alone.

So that means my bed is this big, but I

sleep on this much of it. And I, yeah, I know,

I know, I know. And I don't, you would think, right,

but I don't. And this is my weird bachelor thought.

I should sleep on that side of the bed once

in a while because it's clean. It's untouched.

Speaker 1: And also, I have two dogs. The German Shepherd that

sleeps next to my bed on the floor because I

She's too big. And a little Shih Tzu who is

this big, but she keeps inching over. I've got a queen.

Speaker 2: Of course she does.

Speaker 1: Over and inching over until I'm all every morning. I'm

falling off the damn bed.

Speaker 2: I love that, man. I want a dog so bad.

Speaker 1: But they do hinder you.

Speaker 2: I mean, I, I travel too much traveling.

Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm starting to travel again now.

Speaker 2: And, uh, you know, it's a, it's a headache, but the.

Speaker 1: Love, the love is so fantastic.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Routine. I think it's very important that it, it,

you get thrown off of you, especially when you travel,

you're out of your routine, you know, that you do

at your house. You can try to replicate it in

a hotel room and in some country or some state,

but it's not the same. And there's something about your

body realigns when you get back home and you get

back into your routine, you're doing those things. And then

you're at right with the world. So, yeah, routine.

Speaker 1: I think that, you know, people who live alone, which

I think is you and me, it's really, you know,

you really get into a routine because you answer to

no one. Sacred silence.

Speaker 2: Sensei. Sensei. Thank you, Sensei.

Speaker 1: I personally, you know, I've always been very blessed in life.

I've been in love. Very deeply, the last relationship I

had was 30 years of wonderful love, 27 wonderful love,

three years of needing to part but not knowing how

to do it. Yep.

Speaker 2: Been there.

Speaker 1: You've been there?

Speaker 2: Oh, sure. This is the best.

Speaker 1: Honestly, because I've always had a boyfriend. I mean, since

I was 16, there was always a boyfriend.

Speaker 2: Of course you have.

Speaker 1: And now I'm delightfully single, and there could never be again.

Never again. Because this, you know.

Speaker 2: They say never say never, Patricia. They say never say never.

I was talking to a friend of mine this week.

And the subject with a lot of my friends is, okay, church,

what's going on? Seeing it, you know, what's going on?

And I guess that my answer is right now I'm

blissfully blissed. Okay. Oh my God. I'm so bliss. But

the universe, if the universe winks at me and present

something and slaps me upside the head, of course, I'm

not going to say never. I can't. And I, you know,

and I have so many just wonderful friends of the

female variety. that are just wonderful and beautiful and inside

and out and everything. But that's not where I am

right now. It's weird.

Speaker 1: I think that, and this will tie in much with

our conversation about CERN and the trigger in 2020 of

how things have shifted.

Speaker 2: 2020, that was the year that my life tipped upside

down for sure.

Speaker 1: 2020, when they turned off the planet.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: But a lot of people now are dealing with solitude,

learning how to understand solitude versus loneliness or aloneness. And

there's more and more people choosing that path. solitude and

for a number of reasons. One of them is because

a lot of people are out of their minds. I mean,

it's just, it's all over the road. I think there's

a lot of really, really challenging aspects to life right

now that are driving people out of their minds. And

I really mean that. I don't mean that.

Speaker 2: No, no, no. It's so we're all going through it.

The advantage that I have in any kind of solitude

is I'm never really alone. I'm with a million people

every single night. Right? Right?

Speaker 1: Right?

Speaker 2: I have a successful TV show. I'm around people. I'm always,

it's not like I'm some, you know, spinster. A dude spinster.

What's a dude spinster called? Old man at the end

of the street? I don't know. I don't think there

is a name for a male spinster. Let's figure that

out tonight. Let's create something. But that never comes out

of the house and doesn't have any friends and doesn't

do anything. No, no, no, no. That's not where I'm

at at all. I have just... just a wonderful family.

I get to come in here. This is what I do.

My poor audience. Sometimes I'll just come in and turn

on the mic and go, okay, man, talk and, and, and,

and let it all out. And that's a wonderful thing.

So no, I'm never alone. I'm when I'm alone, when

it's great. And I want everybody to laugh. I want

everybody in the chat to laugh. You know when it's

great when you're alone? At midnight, when you want to

have cheesecake in bed.

Speaker 1: So you told me that the last time I thought

it was the funniest thing ever. It's true.

Speaker 2: It's true. I mean, you know, crumbs in the bed,

you know, and just, man, I'll wipe these off in

the morning. I'm going to sleep in my Oreos.

Speaker 1: I think that when we talk about aloneness or we

were talking about relationships, I think, because like for me,

I'm never alone. I've got two dogs. They're like my children.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 1: And I also have a wonderful online community.

Speaker 2: And you write books and you have your fans and

your artwork and everything else.

Speaker 1: I love not. having to interface with a partner anymore.

I'm just out of it. So, you know, as much

as I loved him, it was this buzz, you know, like.

Speaker 2: You posted, can I ask you a question? Then we'll

get to CERN everybody right now. You posted, no, you

caught my eye and this was, um, and I knew

that we were reaching out to you for the show. Right.

And right before that, I think this is what made

me do it. You posted a picture. of something that

you just made, a dinner, and I saw it and

you described it. I went, man, that looks so good.

What was it? It was baked. It was some kind of, oh.

Speaker 1: I think it was eggplant parmigiana.

Speaker 2: Was that it?

Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you went to Ireland and you didn't contact me, right?

Speaker 2: No, no, no. I would never do that to you. No,

I would never do that to you.

Speaker 1: You're making my way out, cook you an Italian dinner.

Speaker 2: I bet. But anyway, I saw it and I was

looking at that and I was thinking about you because

I'm a foodie. I love to cook and I have

a kitchen that is a complete kitchen, especially for a bachelor.

I have more than ketchup in my refrigerator, right? I

have all the tools. I have all the, everything, just

got a new stove. And I love to cook. And

then what I found out is one of the wonderful

things about living alone, you cook what you want. All right?

You got me. You're not cooking for somebody else or

getting their approval. You got any PETA allergy? None of that.

You just cook for yourself.

Speaker 1: And you eat when you want.

Speaker 2: Yes, yes, man.

Speaker 1: There's no what's for dinner.

Speaker 2: I love cooking for myself. I do. And it always

tastes so good because I made it for me.

Speaker 1: And there's love in the food. This was a whole

other discussion of the vibration of, you know, I really

love to cook. And I grew up, I'm Italian. I

grew up with my mom. And when I was 12,

she already had me in the kitchen with her. So

it's natural just to throw. You know, Italian cooking is

not with recipes. It's just throwing it together because you

sense it.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I spent, I may have told

you this, but I spent the better part of two years,

certainly a solid year, perfecting my version of scampi.

Speaker 1: Yum.

Speaker 2: Scampi is three, maybe four ingredients, depending on... That's it.

That's it. That's it. Right? It's all... it's butter, wine, right. Uh,

olive oil, garlic. Right. And if you get, if you

go past that, you're breaking a lot of international laws

and could be imprisoned. But so for simple, but it's

the balance and how and everything else. And there are

millions of Italian grandmothers who, that took that shit to

their grave. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's a perfection.

It's a perfection.

Speaker 1: Um, and it's also the love of it.

Speaker 2: I mean, I make it for friends every time they

come over, you know, and they're, man, this is amazing.

And well, yeah. Okay. But I spent a year trying

to get this nailed down. Number one, number two, really?

It's only four ingredients.

Speaker 1: You invited me on to talk about CERN because you

saw my eggplant parmesan?

Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's how the universe works, Patricia.

You know this. Come on, man. Come on, man. Okay,

so let's jump into CERN. Let's go from scampi to CERN.

Speaker 1: There must be a connection somewhere.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sort of my scampi recipe. It came out

of a CERN vortex, a CERN portal. It was channeled

to me from a satanic entity that was invited in

by CERN. Anyway, when CERN came online, and it's a

really strange thing for me. When I look back now,

I don't know what it is. But after CERN, the

world just went to crap on, like, every front. And

so I remember watching the CERN opening ceremonies, okay? And

I watched, that was eight hours, right, of video. That

was a long ceremony. A long ceremony? Yes, yes. And

with the most crazy symbolism. Also, some of the best

costumes I've ever seen people dressed up in, by the way.

I mean, that stuff was on pitch. Crazy. But I'm

watching it going, what are they trying to show us?

What is going on there? Now, as we get into CERN,

last year, I had a physicist on the show from CERN.

He was at CERN when we did the interview. And

he was great. He was a lot of fun. But

he goes, Jimmy, look, man, I know about your show.

I know who you are. And I just want to

say this because I know you're going to want to

talk about it. Everybody here is aware of the symbolism.

Everybody is aware of what people talk about. He goes,

and me personally, I've tried to find the secret Illuminati

room and door. I can't find it. That's what he

said to me out front. Now, you could take that

so many different ways, can't you? Is it hiding in

plain sight? Is he trying to make a joke? Is

he deflecting? Is he being serious?

Speaker 1: Yes.

Speaker 2: What do we do with it? But that's what he

volunteered to me.

Speaker 1: That's interesting.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's start with the changes that

seem to coincide with the day they flipped the power

switch at CERN.

Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to preface our conversation by saying that

also remember that when you and I were watching the

horrific ceremony, They were talking about the opening of CERN,

but then suddenly that disappeared and they referred to it

as the tunnel opening. CERN disappeared in the Mandela effect

type of historical recounting of what took place. And I was,

what is this? What happened to the CERN connection? So

they kind of glossed over that, which is a very

interesting fact. I just thought I'd throw that into the mix. So, okay.

A man named Michael Kratzius. Are you aware of this man?

He's a science.

Speaker 2: Uh-huh.

Speaker 1: Have you also had him on?

Speaker 2: I'd have to look. Bill, have we had Michael Kratzius

on the show?

Speaker 1: I doubt it.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 1: He's the science advisor to the White House. And in

April of 2025, he came out and said, our technologies

permit us to alter time and space. And I'm like,

is anybody else paying attention to these kinds of things?

This dude representing the White House says they're manipulating the

space-time continuum, and nobody seems to notice. Even my constant

reference to how, I mean, my constant reference is, it's Tuesday,

it's Friday, it's Tuesday. That's it. That's the week, right?

as the time slips away, CERN is manipulating it. So my,

I don't know if you are aware of this statement,

but I found it extraordinary that nobody's heard of this.

Speaker 2: Right, right. In here, in its basic form, if we

go back to Einstein, not to give a relativity lesson

right now, but we all know about the speed of

light And mass increases as you approach the speed of light.

And eventually, all time stops. And mass becomes infinite. Okay. Well,

that's what CERN is frigging doing. They are racing particles

at 99.9999999 the speed of light. where you are approaching

infinite mass and stopping time. These particles are doing just that.

We have on this planet that stuff going on. Now,

how could with all of this crazy implications that comes

with Einstein's algorithms and equals MC squared to actually doing it,

For an experiment. Under the guise of, I should say,

an experiment.

Speaker 1: Under the guise of, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: Because Mandela and everything else, all this weirdness seems to

be timed with that. Now, I don't want to say

the word coincidence, but when you are taking particles and

racing them up to the speed of light and approaching

infinite mass and freezing time, Shouldn't we be concerned? And

aren't there implications that spin off that directly?

Speaker 1: Of course, the word concern kind of is a funny

little play on words. I'm extremely concerned. First of all,

I can't even say concerned anymore.

Speaker 2: Neither can I. I do it all the time.

Speaker 1: You know, one of my earlier books called The New

Syrian Revelations delved into the fact that our son is

going through ascension. And it's a theme throughout all of

my work. The sun is ascending to the fourth dimension

and we're living in that. And that when this happens completely,

we lose time. So it's interesting that simultaneous time is

a subject that I've covered a long time now, 30

years of my work. And then here we are with

this mechanical alteration of time as well. I do believe

that we are going through a solar ascension. If you

just examine the sun one of the reasons why i

think they're so devoted to blocking the sun is because

today for example there were no chem drills that's fun

and the sun was so bright i couldn't bear it

it was like somebody put the salt you know the

floodlights on it was bright bright white something is definitely

changing there but um regardless of that there's no question

in my mind i'd like to preface everything i say

tonight with in my opinion.

Speaker 2: I want all of your opinions tonight, Patricia. But do

you find it, Mandela effect is something that is obvious

and right in front of us, and I'm looking at

the chat, right? And that's exactly what they're talking about.

And how can billions of people all have some deeply

embedded mass psychosis where nobody has a memory anymore.

Speaker 1: Because everybody's glued to the technology that is their cell phone,

their tool to keep everybody hypnotized. It's remarkable. I mean,

I watched the evolution of this thing on this Island.

When I moved here 10 years ago, it was the

oddity to see a phone. I mean, yeah, some people

had them, but of course now it proliferated, proliferated and

everybody's got them and we've got this again. And, So

the answer to that is why people are not paying

attention is because they're glued to the device, which I

always tell people, it's really not your device. It's theirs.

Put it down. And now they're coming on with the wearables.

Thank you, Mr. Gates. So they've got the Hume band,

and it monitors everything, your health, and everything. this is a,

he's got all the patents for wearables and they want

to insert more than the chip. They want to insert,

insert the neural link type of situation, which is a

computer in itself in the brain. So that's how they

keep people distracted.

Speaker 2: Do you think some.

Speaker 1: Of us are not falling prey to it? And I

don't know what that factor is, why some people are

awake and understanding and some people are anesthetized.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: How do some of us escape it?

Speaker 2: I choose to... And it's not hard for me. I

just choose not to have it be a part of

my life's domination. Me too. There's not enough time in

the day for me to play guitar, ride, research, talk

to people, film, tape, and do the show. I can't spend...

you know, our waste people do, and it's a productive tool, right.

But for a lot, and especially our children, it's a

complete waste of time. And, uh, and.

Speaker 1: I tried, excuse me for interrupting. If it were only

a waste of time, it would be not so horrible.

but it's a complete mind-altering situation, not to mention the electromagnetic.

Speaker 2: Well, see, and the man figured out that. The man

figured that out. The man, whatever the intentions were to

invent the cell phone were cool. The phone in general, cool.

Everything's a progression. But once the man figured out That

they could alter. The entire planet. In a nanosecond.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 2: A nanosecond. Just something pops up. It's in the scroll.

It's in the feed. And you've altered. You know. Six

billion minds. And the man has figured that out. And

now it's a dangerous tool. And now we have AI.

I wanted to ask you this though. What. Are your

thoughts on some of the theories that CERN intentionally or

unintentionally opened up portals to other dimensions and have let

stuff through that portal?

Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of Astrid Stuckelberger. I have. Okay,

so Astrid Stuckelberger, for those who don't know, is a, uh,

I think she's got a couple of PhDs. She's been

with the UN with the hoop, uh, and she's taught

a university and she claims that she was sat with

a couple of kahunas from CERN. And I think it

was a dinner. And, uh, she started asking them questions

and they said, we've already brought things through. And they

told her that an alien, uh, a being, uh, came

through the portal, came up into the room, left a

scarf and went back out. And so she's been obviously

being very careful because, but not that much. She's really vocal.

Speaker 2: Yeah, she is.

Speaker 1: About the portals and what they're doing. And it's so obvious.

I mean, The problem we've got here with the portals

opening is the prelude of the satanic imprint for the

whole operation. So my question is, if you're opening portals

and your mantra for eight hours was this diabolical satanic ceremony,

there's a dot, dot, dot that you're not bringing in

higher beings. And this concerns me greatly because there's, Yesterday

I was thinking to myself, how has this satanic force

taken such a widespread turn in these last few years

with the satanic tattooing and the body morphing and everybody, well, everybody,

these people that are wearing, implanting horns. And before we

even get to other types of rituals, there's a mutation

of the human form that is celebrating the satanic demonic stuff.

And I'm wondering and asking myself all the time, is

this what's coming through CERN? I feel that they've opened

portals to the lower dimensions.

Speaker 2: I'm going to pull up one of the famous images here.

I'm going to pull this up. We mentioned this in

the opening. Here's the CERN statue that sits at the

entrance of CERN. What are we looking at here?

Speaker 1: Well, this is the goddess of destruction, isn't it? In

the Hindu religion?

Speaker 2: I believe so. Hold on. I will give you.

Speaker 1: Okay.

Speaker 2: It was a gift from India. The Indian government presented

the sculpture to CERN on June 18, 2004 to celebrate

scientific collaboration. Symbolism. The Nataraja depicts Shiva performing the cosmic

dance of creation, preservation, and destruction.

Speaker 1: Yeah. So, rumor has it that there was a ceremony

at night under the statue of Shiva where there was

an actual... That's the word I want to use. I've

got to be careful with this word here. Elimination of

an individual in a ceremony. And apparently someone who was

working late saw it from his window. And this is

all allegedly, right? But these kinds of rumors, whether or

not they're true or not, we still have this statue

in a scientific place, which makes no sense at all.

Speaker 2: Right?

Speaker 1: So add to that the horrific. I mean, I was

flabbergasted when I saw that ceremony. It was so dark, so,

so dark. And now we're told that they've shut it down.

Don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe that

they've shut down CERN. What I think they're doing is

preparing it. In fact, they're talking about an upgrade by 20,

the magical year. 2030, and they're claiming that it's going

to be able to produce 10 times what they call

the luminosity, which is the force, the impact. 10 times?

Speaker 2: Yes. Yep, yep, yep. And they have cited, I don't

want to get too sideways here, but they have cited

that this was a scheduled shutdown because there was a

lot of public, you know, outcry and a lot of

theories put out there about this. But they said, no,

this was scheduled. We have a four-year window. We're shutting

it down and we're going to do the upgrades and

we're going to turn it back on in 2030. This

was a scheduled four-year maintenance upgrade.

Speaker 1: Okay. All right.

Speaker 2: So that's their story and they're sticking to it. What

I am very aware of, and so is everybody else,

is that from 2004, 2005, until today in 2026, everything

has gone whack-a-doodle.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: All of it. Everything. Everything. Everything has just gone whack-a-doodle.

Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like we're at the fulcrum point. Something has

got to give. In fact, at the moment, there's a

lot going on politically that is very, very, very dangerous.

Very dangerous. but it's like society is completely whacked out.

The poor excuse for governments, we won't even discuss. Blatant,

blatant everything. We won't even talk.

Speaker 2: And I don't do politics on the show.

Speaker 1: No, it's better not to.

Speaker 2: Well, only because the two things that divide people, And

we are all entitled to our own opinions and thoughts

and foundations and how we want to live our lives.

That's fine. I don't give a shit. You do what

you want. I do what I want. But I don't

want my audience to be bickering and choosing sides amongst themselves.

So I just don't do it. I just don't do it. Yeah.

I don't do it.

Speaker 1: But when you talk about government and you understand that

there are no sides.

Speaker 2: It's an illusion. I'll say this. Oh, man. The red

and blue, let's just go with that, around the world, okay,

are the same.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Identical. Identical. They're the same.

Speaker 1: But it keeps us in battle over the nonsense that

we have a choice. Meanwhile, the puppeteers maneuver these camps.

Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Completely.

Speaker 1: Distracted while they put in place things like CERN 2030. Yeah.

Speaker 2: We all have red blood in our veins. We're all earthlings.

You know, we're all the same. We're all the same.

Maybe not all the same. But they just want us

to be at odds. So, and it's just, I just

have to leave it alone. I have to ignore it.

Speaker 1: Then again, bear in mind, there's something like 125 nations

involved in CERN. So that in itself eliminates the discussions.

It's like they're all united. But when I talk about government,

I'm talking about the entire globe.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That is so well said. That is so

well said. And you combine that, you know, 125 countries and,

you know, they're all in on this. And then just

go back. Anybody that has not watched the opening ceremonies

of CERN, you know what? Do yourself a favor. Become aware.

Become illuminated. Watch that.

Speaker 1: Is it still available?

Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It's, man, it's all over the place. Yeah.

Speaker 1: But they call it the opening of the tunnel. And

that is not what I saw when I first saw it.

It was the opening of CERN. And then with the

Mandela effect, you know, I'd like to talk about that

for a minute.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1: If they have the ability, again, this man, the scientific

advisor for the White House said, we have the technology

to alter time and space. People. So what's happening now?

They're going into the libraries. This is Alexandria all over again.

And they're burning the books. They're uploading and scanning all

the ancient texts. And apparently they're cutting off the binding

so they can put them into the scanners. And then

they're dumping them. And then once they've scanned all the

ancient wisdom, they can alter it as they wish. So

Mandela effect's kind of a, fun little game. Let's change

the fruit of the loom symbol to a basket instead

of a cornucopia example, right? Some people are like, I'm

sure it was a cornucopia. It's like watching us react.

I'm sure it was spelled fun-bies instead of funnies. Nice

little test for what's coming, which is they're going to

upgrade all the books into their systems, the advanced computing,

and then they can alter it as they want. So

they can rewrite human history or erase it completely.

Speaker 2: Remember when 1984, the book, which I read when I

was very young, I read it again when I was

more of a young adult, then the movie came out.

And for the people that didn't read the book that

watched the movie, said the same thing that was on

everybody's mind. Wow. Crazy. But that could never happen. Right, right.

And here we are. Yes, exactly. And here we are

today living 1984, like living it for real. It's crazy.

Speaker 1: Did CERN catapult us into a parallel earth? because I

have a theory for everything.

Speaker 2: What is it?

Speaker 1: I have a theory, and I'm putting it out here

only as a theory, that at the time that they

exploded the vid experiment, they stopped the Earth. We weren't

allowed to breathe. We weren't allowed to sit next to

each other. We weren't allowed to speak too much. We

couldn't be together with family. And shipping... stopped and travel stopped.

And in fact, a lot of the animals, for example,

the ocean animals started breathing again. I'm getting off track,

but this is important. We have constant attacks from the

orcas in the Strait of Gibraltar in that area.

Speaker 2: Yeah, off of the coast of Spain. Yeah.

Speaker 1: After they turned, after the danger was over and they

started back up again, the whales were pissed. And they

started attacking these boats. And my feeling is that they

had a momentary reprieve from human intervention in the oceans.

And they had their silence and they had their music again.

And then, boom, we were back. And they're pissed. So

they're attacking the boats. This is one theory.

Speaker 2: You're not wrong. You're not wrong.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: When orcas attack. It's been several boats.

Speaker 1: They ripped the runners off of these boats.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens

of boats. And you know what's interesting? You know what's interesting?

They're attacking rich people's yachts.

Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting.

Speaker 2: Isn't that... You know, they're leaving the shrimp boats alone.

Leaving the lobster boats alone. That's okay. All right? Tuna

boats are fine. Those rich....

Speaker 1: Yeah. So I have a theory and that is, is

it possible that the shutting down the whole vid episode

was to shut down the earth to reach a certain

frequency where they could trigger us into a parallel reality?

Because the earth we're on today is not the earth

that we were on before the vid.

Speaker 2: No.

Speaker 1: Or at least it doesn't resemble it very much.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 1: So if they can alter time and space with this monstrosity,

were they capable of utilizing it to catapult us? The

expression everybody uses is timeline. I think it's overworked as

a term. And I'm talking about a parallel Earth, a

parallel reality that is not the same frequency that we

were on before. Because there's no question. We've gone from a, okay,

we've always had upheaval in society, but Now we're in

a deranged level of society and progressively downhill. And there's

no explanation for this happening so dramatically within such a

short time span.

Speaker 2: Has it affected, now you, well, you know, it's like

the oldest saying, you're a woman on an island, right? Okay,

so is it affecting, is your world... In the Azores,

does it feel different? Here in Los Angeles, parallel reality.

No question about it. I'm in another dimension. But what

about the Azores? Has it affected island life?

Speaker 1: So when I moved here 10 years ago, it was primitive.

Then all of a sudden I started noticing all the

cell phones. When I say primitive, I don't want to

offend any Azoreans. I mean simple things. life, farmers, sailors, tourism,

a few months out of the year, very slow. Now

they've put in this ridiculous, let's call it a highway,

which leads from nowhere to nowhere because it's a small

little island. All this EU money is coming in. We

still don't have an MRI in the hospital, but we've

got this huge spanking freeway they put in. And We

don't have an MRI. Can you imagine? You can't get

an MRI.

Speaker 2: That doesn't even compute.

Speaker 1: I can't say it on the air, but it's money

that seems to get reallocated.

Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait. Now, I thought, okay, and I've looked

at you and I. I have looked all over the Azores,

and it's such a beautiful place. But I thought, it

was at least a little bit cosmopolitan and modern that

there would be an MRI machine. So what, what happens

if you need an MRI? You go to Spain, you

go to what?

Speaker 1: No, I have to go to another Island because I'm

on one of the smaller Islands.

Speaker 2: Okay.

Speaker 1: So the, the main Island here is San Miguel.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 1: Delgada. They've got the whole.

Speaker 2: Okay. So there is an MRI machine somewhere in the

Atlantic around you.

Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought I had a, Porn. something in ligament

in my shoulder. And we have a hospital, but they said, oh, no,

you have to go. You want me to fly to

another island? Then, of course, hotels and then waiting lists

and whatever. God forbid. But this... So that's why I

say primitive. I don't mean anything offensive, but Very slow.

We've got one and a half supermarkets, three gas stations.

It's small. You've got to come and visit me. I

know you keep saying that, but you do need to.

Speaker 2: I do.

Speaker 1: And so living here, I'm watching them put in the

15-minute city. We've got the parking all of a sudden

is disappearing. They put in a paved area for walking.

They don't want cars in the town. So I guess

this new road is going to divert us from driving

in this town, which is a couple of streets, partly

a city. And then we got the motor scooters, then

all of a sudden the cameras. So they're putting in

the EU 15-minute city. The question being, why? How do

you get off this island? You can only fly out

unless you've got a boat, which makes me very uncomfortable

because in the case of a disaster, I can't hop

in my car, would that we're still allowed to have gas,

and drive somewhere. I'm stuck on this island, which I love.

Speaker 2: Yeah, where I live, I live 40, 50 miles north

of L.A. in the desert. I live in Palmdale. And

Palmdale is a tiny, tiny city. You could call it

a city. But I live on the west side of

Palmdale next to a tiny town called Quartz Hill. And

where I'm at out here, Quartz Hill, and I'm not joking. Okay?

I'm going to stop and think. One gas station, two

bus stops.

Speaker 1: So, you see?

Speaker 2: Right? That little four blocks of downtown Quartz Hill is wonderful.

And I never want to see that get messed up.

I don't go to Palmdale. I technically live in Palmdale.

I don't go to Palmdale for anything. Right? If I

can't do it out here, right, in my little neck

of the woods. And I don't want this ruined.

Speaker 1: This is a very interesting aspect of our conversation because

I'm a prepper. And somebody wrote to me and said,

what do you recommend if we get alerted that there's

going to be a nuclear bomb? And I said, kiss

your ass goodbye. Because there's no prepping for something like that.

But I am a prepper from the point of view

I want to be away from cities. I want to

be in as much of a natural environment as possible

to have a minimum of backup storage set up and

then let it go. Because to be in a crowded place,

I mean, it's tantalizing from a certain point of view.

Because when I travel.

Speaker 2: Oh, you told me once, you know, Jimmy, I'm selling

my house. I'm going back to civilization.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: What the hell happened? It was a great idea at

the time. It never happened.

Speaker 1: Why this happened was I had an art show in London.

And I was full of bucks. And, you know, there

was a lot happening around the art. It was very exciting. And,

you know, the shops and the cafes and the great restaurants.

And here is, you know.

Speaker 2: You got none of that. Right.

Speaker 1: So coming back, it's like, yikes. I miss civilization. But

then when I get back into it, I'm like, yeah,

I don't think so. So what happened is I actually

have my house in the market. I got a nice

little offer for it. And I had a panic attack.

I was here with the realtor and his guys were

showing the house to this couple. And I could see

the woman going. We closed ourselves on the terrace so

that we didn't interfere with them. And she kept loving

the house. And I was like, what am I, nuts?

Speaker 2: Yeah, you told me. You told me. You said, Jimmy, okay,

I've got the house ready to show. I remember the

whole conversation. Jimmy, I've got the house ready to show.

I know what I want to do. I'm looking at

property in Europe right now. And I've got my eyes

on a couple of cities. What do you think? And

we had that whole conversation. It was like two days later,

he goes, No, I'm not doing it. I showed the

house one time, and I changed my mind.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it one time, and I got an offer.

I just called my house a mansion, which it's not.

But I bought a shack, and I rebuilt it. It's

my beautiful home. And this house in Europe, anywhere else,

would cost millions of dollars. I can't even afford to move.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 1: But I've got a beautiful home with this expansive view

of the ocean. It's a beautiful place, and I'm at

one with a piece with the idea that If all

hell is breaking loose, and I'm going full circle now

to your question, this is a good place to be,

I think, in the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 2: Well, okay, but now you bring up a really good point.

I'm going to remind you of something, though, young lady.

The island that you are on used to be Atlantis.

And some bad shit happened, right?

Speaker 1: It's also true.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: But, okay, so considering that the weather, I'm free to speak, right?

Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want.

Speaker 1: So we know that the weather is manipulated. They've been

doing this since 1945 was when the government started talking

about weather manipulation, at least in documents that I've seen.

And now, you know, like, give me a break. Imagine

you have a blender and you're whipping up some pancake mix.

Imagine if you have a tool where you can whip

up the atmosphere. And that's what they're doing all the time.

So these hurricanes and whatever, they bring them in when

they want. I'm getting off track. What was the point

of it?

Speaker 2: Atlantis. Yes.

Speaker 1: So thank you. So as I monitor earthquakes, there are

at least five a day. Volcanoes, you know, Nostradamus said

when the volcanoes of the four corners of the earth

go off simultaneously, you will know you're in the end

of days. Well, they're going off everywhere all the time.

There's blowing. So somebody asked me, was I concerned about it?

And I said, well, let me explain. When I look

out my window across the bay, there's a Mount Pico,

which is a volcano. When I look across the way

to the south, there are two or three spent volcanoes.

We had an explosive volcano activity in 1957, wiped out

part of the island. So if it's time to go, baby,

it's like I'm in the Herculaneum position to Vesuvius, because

if that volcano blows across the way, Oh, my God.

And people said, no, it's not active. And one day,

one winter, I'm sitting here because my office has windows

all around, so I've got the most amazing view. I

look out, and it's like, wait a minute.

Speaker 2: No, no. Are you serious?

Speaker 1: The volcano is covered in snow, and there's steam coming

out the top. It doesn't look inactive to me. But

I have a lot of resolve when it comes to

my own death, which is, I'd rather go out with

a burst of ash than to sit in a hospital

and drool on myself.

Speaker 2: Yeah. You got that right.

Speaker 1: I don't have those kinds of fear, but it is

a volatile time on this planet. And as far as

this being Atlantis, absolutely. There's no, I think we had

this conversation before where I told you in the hospital here,

they've got a painted mural in the lobby and the,

there's a scene, a pastoral scene with some, local folks

farming and some fishes and whatever. And then over here,

there's this underwater scene with these Greek type columns and

pyramids and columns that are underwater crashed. I was, did

you pick to get Atlantis? The older people here know

that this is Atlantis. And so from Atlantis, I began

my earth journey and To Atlantis, I've returned to complete

the cycle.

Speaker 2: Do you think, we just got 45 seconds left before

the break. So just really quick, everybody's been looking, you know, forever,

you know, the big A word, Atlantis. Do you think

that'll get resolved and it will be the Azores?

Speaker 1: You know, Graham Hancock has been talking quite a lot

about this. He's so knowledgeable. So you might want to

check out what he's bringing forward. But bear in mind

that at this island that I've told you about, San Miguel,

a fisherman, a commercial fisherman with some serious equipment, was

one sunny day off the coast of the island. He

looked down. It was a perfect day. Mild water, perfect light, whatever.

He looked down and saw a big giant pyramid. in the,

in the water. And it came out in the news.

And then the next thing, you know, and the next

day or two days later, the military said it was

an illusion and he had been drinking and there's nothing there.

So we never found out the longitude and latitude of

that thing. And he went quietly into that dark night.

Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1: We know there's this big pyramid right off the island.

Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that interesting? It was an illusion, but we

don't know where the illusion was. Right? It does make sense.

Speaker 1: You can't pinpoint the illusion.

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Jimmy Church. Our guest tonight, Patricia Corey, live from the Azores.

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Jimmy Sears. Tonight, Patricia Corey is with us live from

the Azores. She's living her best life out there. I

got it going on out here in Quartz Hill, though,

you know, so I got a little taste of that

small town life. Got a lot to discuss tonight. Patricia,

we were talking before the show and We were talking

about different places around the world, and specifically we brought

up Peru. And when I go to hang out, when

I go and visit these very, very special places, I

walk around and I meet the culture, meet the people,

and I see these sites in these countries. And I

can't help but think about well, the megalithic, the technology, how,

and all of that. But it seems to me that

there was something brought to them that they nurtured into

ancient wisdom. And, and in those cultures, it's still there today.

Us out here in, uh, a first world situation. We

don't have that. We don't have any of those connections.

But am I wrong? Am I flying over the target

when I say something like that? I'm not sure I

understand your point. I think that E.T. visited these cultures

throughout history. And they carry it. And it's everywhere you look.

They preserved it for us. The knowledge is there, the symbolism,

the writings, and the stuff that has been handed down

generation after generation. But that's there, and that's not here.

And I feel it. And I know sometimes it may

sound crazy to suggest something like that, but I just

think that I'm right.

Speaker 1: Well, you do have an Egyptian... artifacts in the Death Valley,

in the Grand Canyon, sorry. So it is there. It's

probably just not uncovered yet. But, you know, I would

like to comment that I've just, this year I've been

twice to Turkey and Gobekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, and now

there's Mendik Tepe. And one of the archaeologists said, because each,

each one that they uncover, there's like 26 acres of

this expansive civilization. And, uh, Karahan is older than Gobekli.

Mendic is older than Karahan. And they're saying, what are

we going to keep finding? And this archaeologist said, well,

the only reason why Gobekli Tepe is younger than the

other places, it's the first place we've found, but they're

uncovering all this. And there's an unearthing of history right now. Egypt, Turkey, uh,

So much is coming out. In this upheaval, because we've

kind of talked about some of the negative aspects, this

upheaval that the Earth is going through is also the

great reveal. And it's just like it's all coming. I

really feel that perhaps the power grid that was put

in place 11,000 years ago, 12,000 years ago, the Atlantean timeline,

could very well be activated again. And something is underway here.

And we have yet to find out what's underneath the pyramids. But,

you know, I go to Egypt all the time. In fact,

I'm taking a group again. And one of the places

that I really love is the Serapium at Saqqara. And

I've heard every kind of thing say that it's where

they buried the Apis bull.

Speaker 2: One of our.

Speaker 1: Colleagues said it's where the Anunnaki were buried. And I'm like, no,

this is a battery station that is charging on some

way that we don't understand, charging the Great Pyramid. There's

a whole power complex in that area. And it's, again,

my theory. So when I say no, I'm not boohooing

anybody else's opinion. But I think that these immense structures

that were put in place are being revealed to us now.

God only knows we're going to see what's under the pyramids.

But I've never had any doubt in my mind that

the pyramid was a power station and that they're all connected.

Speaker 2: The new director of antiquities in Egypt that replaced Zahi,

one of my trips out there, I get the keys

to the Serapium. And I'm allowed to open it up

in the morning. It's early, you know, 7 a.m. or something.

And I go down, and I've got the priest with me,

and I go down and pop the key in the

padlock and open it up and go in and turn

on the lights, right? And actually, it was pretty freaking

cool to be able to. It was a privilege.

Speaker 1: That's very cool.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very cool. So I get in there,

but he's there. And we've got about 80 people in

this tour group. And I start talking to him. And,

and he said to me, he goes, you know, Jimmy,

you know, I follow you on social media and, you know,

I'm very aware of, of your thoughts on these things.

And I said, look, man, honestly, bulls, really? And he goes,

I'm going to quote him and everybody there, you know, video, right?

They're like, oh shit, church is going toe to toe. But,

but I just wanted him to address the ridiculousness of,

of these things. And we're standing next to, at the entrance,

there's that big sarcophagus that never made it in there. Right.

Speaker 1: Exactly.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 1: It's not a sarcophagus. It's a granite block.

Speaker 2: It's giant, bigger than me.

Speaker 1: Right.

Speaker 2: And so, and I pointed at the lid and I

said to him, how?

Speaker 1: How?

Speaker 2: Just explain this to me. Look at that lid and

explain to me how. Well, man, what they did is

they took little pieces of wood and they would wedge

it in there and put water on it and it

would swell up and then slowly I go, okay, all right,

all right, let's stop with that part. I wouldn't let him,

you know, and I go, but bulls? And he goes, yeah,

we found bulls. I go, where are they? You know

what he said? I don't know.

Speaker 1: That's what he said?

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He said, well, they did find one for sure.

I said, okay, where is it? I think it's in

the storeroom of a museum. I said, where? You're the

director of antiquities. Where's the bowl? I've never seen a

picture of it. Well, I'm not sure exactly, but I said,

if that was the case, shouldn't that be on display? Shouldn't,

you know, and, and, And so anyway, my point being

that when I bring up these very crucial points, their

dogma over the years has turned into fact, right? Okay.

All right. So it's, it's a very difficult thing. And

then when you go in to the Serapium, which by

the way is, I've always compared it to a shopping mall.

You know, when you go into a shopping mall, You're

going down a long hallway, you've got shops to the

left and to the right, to the left and right,

these big, you know, it's like that. It's like an

indoor shopping mall with these shops left and right with

everything in there. And it's that big. This is not

some small little tunnel that you're going through. You could

drive a car through there. Yeah, it's huge.

Speaker 1: It's huge. And I'm so glad that you're so familiar

with it because... I don't know how long it's been

open to people to go in, but I first heard

about the Serapion from Chris Dunn, who said, if you

want to see Egyptian technology, make sure you go into

the Serapion and see how those granite blocks are cut.

He's a genius. I love Chris Dunn. And every time

I go in there, I'm like, my hair stands up.

Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. It doesn't. It makes no sense,

does it?

Speaker 1: It makes sense if you understand that the battery is

an electric, some system is powering, or at the moment,

it's not connected to power the pyramid. But that's the

rapium there. It's no question that there's a link to

the pyramids. For me, it's a question that has to

do with electric energy.

Speaker 2: I agree with that. And one of the points that,

and I always depend on my eyeballs, right? So when

you're walking through there and if you listen to the dogma,

the dogma is these were one piece blocks that they,

and they carved everything out of one piece.

Speaker 1: Okay.

Speaker 2: All right. Okay. So let's just go with the dogma part.

Let's park that. Let's pin that to the wall. Here's

the problem with that. You look at these boxes and

they are big and they are nearly perfect. But if

you look really close, they are melted. Right? They have weird...

And if you're going to carve a perfect block, then

why aren't you smoothing out those melted parts that are

sticking up? It doesn't make sense. Unless, going with what

you just said, they got heated and melted at some point.

And it doesn't match their dogma. If you're a Mason

and you're in there cutting these blocks, what are you

doing doing a shitty job?

Speaker 1: The Egyptians didn't do a shitty job.

Speaker 2: They didn't.

Speaker 1: Especially if this was some kind of huge worship center

where you were worshiping bulls. You wouldn't make any mistakes.

Speaker 2: Any mistakes. Any mistakes. Any mistakes. And these boxes are beautiful.

They're incredible.

Speaker 1: They're huge.

Speaker 2: And huge. But yet there's apparently some really sloppy work

that was done. And no, that does not fit the dogma,

the divine perfection. And you're right about the work of

Chris Dunn and others that have gone in there and

measured and looked. And I've done the same thing. I've

gotten in there with lasers and squares and, you know, and,

and checked corners.

Speaker 1: And, and stuff.

Speaker 2: Okay. Well, the short answer is yes, except for those

inconsistencies on the surfaces, which looks so completely out of place.

Speaker 1: Very interesting that you say that it could have been

melted or perhaps. And I, again, theory that it was,

somehow scooped in a way that refracted energy or moved

energy or slowed it down or something so that, you know,

the direct straight line perhaps needs some kind of, I'm

not a scientist.

Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right about that. You're right about that.

Speaker 1: A way to move the energy in an oscillation or

some other aspect that would be facilitated by those curves.

Speaker 2: Yes, yes. And here's the other– I'm so glad we're

talking about this. The rooms that they are in, these alcoves,

these storefronts, if you've ever moved a sofa or a

refrigerator to a second-floor apartment, and the struggle that you

go through to get a couch up one flight of

stairs– And to navigate the corners, get it in the

front door and somehow make it into your living room

or refrigerator. Banging walls, scratching this and what you go through.

And then you go to the Serapium and you look

at these boxes and you're like, how?

Speaker 1: How?

Speaker 2: How did you take this corner with a 50, 100 times?

The lid is four feet thick. The lid is. The lid,

black granite, you know. It's incredible. Yeah. And there's just

dozens of them.

Speaker 1: And by the way, if it's such a sacred center

for the bulls, where's the hieroglyphics? Surely, if it was

such a sacred location, there would be design like everything

else that the Egyptians did. No, these are just black.

Humongous granite boxes.

Speaker 2: When the British and the French first found the Serapium

in 1832, by the way, 1832, right? Wow.

Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

Speaker 2: It's modern. Their drawings of it are exactly as you

see it today.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Okay, so they got into the entrance, they came in,

and there it was, fresh, right?

Speaker 1: Most people don't know about the Serapion. I mean, it's

not a real tourist situation. It's people like us that

are interested.

Speaker 2: Can I share something, a thought that I had? Okay,

so we're in Saqqara. This is the first time I

was there. And we're in Saqqara. And, okay, so we're

going to go to the Serapium, Serapium, Serapium. And I'm

looking around. I'm like, where is it? Because you're in

the middle of sand dunes in Saqqara that go on

to the horizon, right? And you're in the middle of

the Sahara Desert. This is sand dunes. dunes this is

the sahara desert sakara and you're looking at like where

is it so when you walk up to it you

come down off this little dirt road you round the

corner come down this hill and there's the stair the

ramp that goes down underground and you see the doorway

below you have no idea what's about to greet you

because you're looking at sand dunes above nondescript it's not

even there you walk past it you wouldn't even know

it so anyway When you walk in the entrance and

then you walk inside and you're in there for whatever,

a couple hours, it's ginormous. Hallway after hallway, left turn,

right turn. It's so big. Anyway, when you come back

up and now you're back in the sand and then

you imagine what is underneath the sand. That is crazy.

It messes with my head. Because you're looking at the

sand dunes and you're trying to picture how these tunnels

and what is underneath. It's incredible. And so that's what

messed with me was how do you find it? What

was the idea? What was the intention? It's incredible. And

you would never know it's there.

Speaker 1: Did you know Hakeem Awil?

Speaker 2: I never met him.

Speaker 1: So he was my friend. Yes.

Speaker 2: You know, precious friend. So precious. He was a gift,

a gift to us all.

Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, he was the last

of the oral wisdom keepers of the Kemet tradition. And

when I met him, we, it was kind of haphazard

how I met him and we started to exchange thoughts

and he said, so how do you think the pyramids

were made? And I, I said something about Atlantis. I said, well,

I would imagine that there was this emerging of civilizations that,

he said, you're going to talk about Atlantis?

Speaker 2: I said, yes. Okay.

Speaker 1: He said, is it possible that we were great enough

as Egyptians that we didn't need some outside civilization to

come in and do it for us? I said, yes,

it's possible. But see, everybody kissed his ass, right? He

was like Alibaba. And I said, yeah, of course it's possible, Hakeem.

But on the other hand, it's also possible that there

was a merging of this incredible high technology, high civilization

at that time. And that there was a high civilization

from the 42 tribes that instantaneously became these incredible pharaohs

and wisdom keepers and technological geniuses. And are you going

to deny that there's a possibility that there was alien intervention?

And he said, I'm willing to discuss it as long

as we keep to the discussion that we didn't need

outside intervention. I said, whoa, need is a big word.

Who said they needed it? If there was an alien

civilization that saw that the epicentral point on planet Earth

is where the pyramid needed to go, for reasons that

had to do with empowering the whole planet with a

system of free energy, you just had the right country.

You had the right land. And he said, I think

we'll get along famously.

Speaker 2: He was a wonderful man. I would cut off my

right arm if I could turn back time and chain

smoke cigarettes and drink tea with Hakeem.

Speaker 1: I did that.

Speaker 2: I know you did.

Speaker 1: He was smoking hashish at the end because he was

very sick and he was in a lot of pain.

And he probably shouldn't say this publicly. He said, will

you join me? And I was like, smoking hashish in Egypt? Yikes.

They cut your head off for things like that. Oh, yeah.

And I just looked at him and he handed me

the pipe. And I said, will you join me, Patricia?

Speaker 2: Absolutely.

Speaker 1: So there I was, his house was right under the Sphinx.

I mean, his balcony was like the Sphinx. So we're

sitting on his balcony. He was in a lot of pain.

His legs were really bad. Smoking hashish with him. Talk

about a moment in life. And I said to him,

so Hakeem, when are you going to show me the

tunnels under the pyramid? And you know what he said?

I'll take you to the entrance and I'll see you

on the other side. And I knew he was telling

me he was going to die. And sure enough, two

days later, I heard that he had died.

Speaker 2: Oh, man.

Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was there right before he died. I

told him, I wish I could take you to Italy.

I was living in Italy at the time, to get medical.

And he goes, oh, I wish you could, Patricia. I

wish you could. So the reason why I brought him up,

aside from my love of him and the honor, I mean,

every time I went, I lived in Italy, in Rome.

It was a three-hour flight to Cairo. I just kept

jumping over.

Speaker 2: Sure. Right? Why not?

Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with him. I had

the honor of really knowing he was my friend. And

he said, when I was a kid, we would go

down in the tunnel. There was some sort of an

entrance that the kids knew at Sephara. And he said,

there's the whole place. He said, there's nothing but tunnels

from Saqqara all the way to the pyramids. It's completely tunnels.

And I'd love to know, you know, were he around

right now, what he would have to say about this

theory that there are these giant pillars of energy under

the pyramid. Because he never mentioned that to me.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see that pan out. I

think the excitement that the world had with the news

of that was because we all have an interest. You know,

we would love to get some of these mysteries unraveled.

I was with Muhammad Ibrahim, who you know, and we

were in Saqqara. And the director of Saqqara was with us.

Each one of these sites, everybody, every site has a

director that runs the site. Very knowledgeable, very cool. Everybody's

really cool. But so anyway, I'm walking with Muhammad and

the director of Saqqara. And they tell, I'm listening to

them talk. And they said, do you remember, remember when

we used to ride our, our BMX bikes out here

when we were kids? And I turned to him and

I said, wait a minute, what, what did you guys say?

And he goes, yeah, man, we lived in the town

right over there. This is where we grew up. So

Muhammad and I, after school, before school and everything, this

is where we played. I was like, Holy, how cool

is that? Right? Just think about that. When you're a kid,

that your backyard is Saqqara, right? So I said, what

did you guys find? We found all kinds of things

out here. There's things everywhere. And knowing what we know

now about Saqqara, because we're talking about 40, 50 years

ago for these two guys, Saqqara, every day we get

another gift. Out of Saqqara. Saqqara, it's ginormous. Compared to

what we knew in the 1950s, 1960s, even the 1970s, Saqqara,

the more that we look at, it is just turning

out to be bigger and bigger and more important than

we had originally thought.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like everywhere they dig, they find new things.

Speaker 2: New pyramids. New pyramids.

Speaker 1: Like you said, I wonder what's under the sand. As

far as the eye can see, if they were to

uncover all that, there's going to be an entire network

that leads from Saqqara all the way to Giza.

Speaker 2: All the way to Giza. I firmly, 100% believe, I'm

not in any way exaggerating, it's the same site. Right?

It's just one ginormous... Saqqara's not that far from Giza,

by the way.

Speaker 1: It's like Luxor when they discovered the Avenue of the

Sphinxes and it goes all the way down to Karnak

from Luxor Temple.

Speaker 2: It was under sand. It was under sand.

Speaker 1: When I first went there, I don't remember seeing those sphinxes.

I went the first time to Egypt in 1997. How

about you?

Speaker 2: No, my first time there was five years ago. Oh, really?

Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, let me tell you something. The first time

I went to Egypt, I stepped off the, let's call

it pavement in the village. The name is escaping me

at the moment. And it's been destroyed, I hear. They're

putting in new hotels there. The village where Hakeem lived.

Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right, right, right.

Speaker 1: Right in front of the Sphinx. So the first time

I went to Egypt, I was staying with a woman

who worked, who invited me to teach a workshop. And

she got a call from her husband and he said,

don't go out. There's been an attack at Luxor. Where

was it? Hatshepsut Temple. don't go out with Patricia. And

it was like my first night there and I wanted

to get to the Sphinx. So I decided, well, the

safest time to go would be then. So I arranged,

I'm so crafty. I arranged for a little desert rat,

as they call themselves, to take me to the Sphinx

at four in the morning, my second night in Egypt

in 1997. So everything was very furtive when I got

behind the camel ship and then we went this way

and then, and there were guards because of what had

happened at Hot Ships. And was it Hot Ships that

were there in 1987?

Speaker 2: In Luxor? Yes.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Hot Ships. So I went out and I,

by myself, under the full moon, go out there and

there was a guard sitting right in front of the Sphinx.

Try to imagine this, your first encounter in the moonlight

with the Sphinx before you, just stepping off. No walls,

no gates, no nothing. Stepping off, stepping onto the sand.

The buck sheeshed the guard. He looked away. Zoom. I

went into the arms of the Sphinx. I had this

out-of-body moment, let me tell you. And I was there

in the arms of the Sphinx. So effortlessly, everything was open.

I took a camel and rode off into the sunset. Sunrise,

excuse me. And now everything's boarded up in gates and

turnstiles and whatever. But 1997, at that time, it was

a completely different experience.

Speaker 2: In front of the first thing that civilization has pushed

up so far, that facing the Sphinx is a Pizza

Hut and a Kentucky Fried Chicken. Yeah. I've stood right there.

Good Lord, man.

Speaker 1: What I remember the most was the awe because everything

was in lockdown. So there was this guard, poor excuse

for a guard, sitting there with some machine gun. And,

you know, my little desert rat guy went over to him,

gave him some box sheets. He turned his way. I went.

I was alone in the arms of the Sphinx.

Speaker 2: That is beautiful. At Thorpe Park. That is beautiful. I

did the same thing with the great pyramid. I was

able to, uh, uh, I had it to myself for

like 30 minutes, myself empty. And that was pretty incredible.

But when I came out, I'm walking down, I'm with

Muhammad Ibrahim, and we're shooting this video, talking, walking alone

and probably eight, nine o'clock at night. And we go

down and met with all of the guards that were there.

And they're talking to Muhammad. You know, I'm shaking, I'm

handing out, I had American Spirit cigarettes, the currency of

the world, right? And I'm handing out cigarettes to the guards.

And we're talking. And Muhammad turns to me and he goes, okay, man, Muhammad,

I don't think I've ever said this on the air. Okay.

He goes, church, if you want to, if you want

to climb it, you can. No way. I looked up.

It turns out I'm serious. I looked up and I went, no. No.

Speaker 1: I had a similar experience because that same night after

we got done with the Sphinx, we drove out. We

went out and I watched the sunrise with the camels.

The next day, I told the guy, the same guy,

that I wanted to go inside the pyramid. He goes,

that's going to be a little more difficult. So, He

found out that there was a private group going in.

I forget what time it was. It was some god-awful

morning time. And he said, we'll do this all over again,

4 o'clock in the morning. We'll do this. We'll do this.

You come here, whatever. So when the group went in

to go up, he unlocked the door, the gate, for

me to go down. And I went down to the

subterranean chamber. I could never do it now. I'm not

that nimble. I mean, walking all that way down, bent over.

Give me a break.

Speaker 2: It's gnarly.

Speaker 1: I went down with the fear because, you know, the

adrenaline of the knowing that you're not supposed to be doing,

it's not, not like an arranged government visit. This group

has gone up and you are going down. Never forget.

That's why they call me. That's why my new book

is called. They call me Indiana. You know what?

Speaker 2: I'll never do again. I will never, go into the

Bent Pyramid?

Speaker 1: I haven't been in it.

Speaker 2: Most dangerous thing I've ever done. Hands down. I've rappelled

off cliffs. I've cliff-dived. I've done... I've done stupid, stupid stuff.

I will never go inside the Bent Pyramid again. That

was the most.

Speaker 1: Dangerous thing I've ever done.

Speaker 2: Well, first off, the tunnel is, you know, 200 feet.

You know.

Down at a 45 degree angle it's really steep but

it's only this big so not like the subterranean tunnel

you have to crouch over and and it's very difficult

on your knees and your legs and it's tough but

the bent pyramid you have to go down backwards on

your hands and knees and your back is scraping the

the entire time all the way down and you're going

backwards like this. And what seems like forever, it's probably,

I don't know, 30 minutes, you know, 15, 30 minutes

on like this in this. And you can't, you can't,

if you change your mind, you can't get out because

you can't go around it. It's, it's literally this big.

It's not, It's very tight. When you first approach it

and you look down, it's, I mean, if claustrophobia is

in your world, you can't, it's impossible. It's only this.

Speaker 1: So worse than a subterranean chamber?

Speaker 2: Oh, it's literally a third of the size, the tunnel.

A third. And the subterranean tunnel, subterranean is probably three

foot square, right? Maybe four feet, right? three feet. And

so you can pass people in the subterranean tunnel. If

you have to, you can work, not, not with the

bed pyramid. And so anyway, and it's also, it's 200 feet.

It's forever long. And, um, uh, from the outside, you

start from the outside and go in subterranean. Anyway, the

point is when you get down and you're on the

inside of, uh, the bent pyramid, you can't leave. You can't, no, no,

you can't leave. And then, and now you have to

reverse the process and you've got to do this. Literally

your face is on the bottom of the tunnel and

you're like this all the way up, um, on your

hands and knees for another 200 feet, which seems like

straight up. And it's not, it's dangerous. It's not cool. Um,

people do it all the time and I warn everybody, look,

it's not what you think. This isn't, you know, the

great pyramid, you're upright, right? You're walking, you know, that's,

that's a tour that that's different. You have handrails and, and,

and all of that. No, the bent pyramid is, it's,

it's physically dangerous. And if anything happens to you in.

Speaker 1: There, that's it.

Speaker 2: There's no hospitals. There's no hospitals anywhere. Until Cairo.

Speaker 1: Right. If they can get you out.

Speaker 2: Right, right. Not that there's nobody there. There's no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1: But this is an interesting subject that we can amplify to,

for the, for the listeners. And that is how exciting

that we have the opportunity still to explore this earth.

I mean, I, I, in Turkey, I went up to Mount,

have you been?

Speaker 2: Go Beckley Tepe is next year.

Speaker 1: I wish we could do something together.

Speaker 2: I would love to do something with you. I would

love to go Beckley Tepe. I would love to go.

You know, I would like to go. I'd like to

go to Yerevan. I would like to go and try

to find the Ark.

Speaker 1: Mount Ararat, where they supposedly found Noah's Ark, is 26

kilometers or miles, I think miles, from Gobekli Tepe. But

it's mountainous terrain. It's really hard to get there. And

you need permits or whatever. But I'd still love to

see that structure. Because as you know, they've now identified

that there are wooden structures in that petrified wood in

that formation. But the whole area, I mean, I'd love

to do a trip with you. We'll have to talk

about that.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1: The Mount Nemrut. Let's talk about Mount Nemrut. So at

the top of this ridiculously difficult place. I'm no spring chicken.

Freezing cold night. And I forget how many thousands of

feet up it is. But again, it's, you know, no

oxygen up here. And you get up this incredibly long

hike up there. And at the top of this, with

very small space, I mean, it would have to have

been hoisted in by craft. Because there's no way they

could have carried up these huge statues.

Speaker 2: And they're beautiful too they're so beautiful and ginormous one of.

Speaker 1: The great moments of my life because halfway up the

guide that I was with I said I'm not going

to make it I suffer from health sickness which is

why Peru is hard for me and we won't even

talk about Tibet and I said I don't think I'm

going to make it because we were rushing to catch

the sunrise it was freezing ice it was dark it

was brutal And he said, okay, you want to turn back?

He said, you want to sit down and rest? And

I said, yeah. And then he said, Patricia, if you're

not going to make it, we'll go back. I go,

you don't seriously think Patricia Corey made it halfway?

Speaker 2: Trap on.

Speaker 1: And we got there. And this moment where you get

there for the sunrise and the sun moves over these statues.

It's like, it's otherworldly. Mount Nimrud. What an experience that is.

And there's a, let's call it mound. I think there's

a pyramid under it. It looks like a pile of rocks,

a big one, but I think it's a pyramid under it.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: Supposedly it's the King Antioch tomb, but I think it's

a pyramid and could be a tomb. But again, every

time we have a pyramid, they call it a tomb.

I don't think so. And it's just something that, What

a privilege that we can still see these places, which is,

I encourage people, get off of your assets, man. See

these places when you still can.

Speaker 2: I'm going to pull this up for everybody. This is Nemrut.

And this is, it's one of the most remarkable spots

on planet Earth, without a doubt. But it's also a

destination that you have to plan. You don't, You're not

coming in on a cruise ship and taking a ground excursion. No,

this is something that– and it's not visited. I mean

people go and see it, but it's not like what

you think. And most, Patricia, as you know, have never

even heard of it. And it's absolutely incredible. Jessica Rodriguez

just– I want to get to this. She said, what's

at the end of that tunnel– in the Bent Pyramid,

and that is a great question. Now, up until, I'll

just make this brief, at the time that the Bent

Pyramid was built, Senefru, allegedly, okay, let's just go with that,

but I like Senefru, he's a pretty badass pharaoh. But

the interior, he, again, there's no markings, there isn't anything to.

Factually any of this. So let's just go with the story.

He built this to be his tomb, but he built three.

The Red Pyramid, which sits in front of the Bent

Pyramid in Saqqara, was allegedly his final resting place. So

he built three pyramids in like 10 years. All right. Anyway,

go figure that. But the Bent Pyramid, was the largest

enclosed room in the world. Okay, now you got to remember,

we're talking about 2600, 2700, 2800 BC. Okay, that's a long,

it's at the beginning of the Egyptian civilization, again, allegedly.

But the interior of it, when you get down, inside

and you stand in there, it is a big open room.

We got 80 people in there. Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1: You got 80 people to crawl through this thing?

Speaker 2: Sure did.

Speaker 1: Yep.

Speaker 2: You know, you know what happened when the last person

came out of the tunnel, right? I looked down and

I said, tunnel empty tunnels, empty church. I said, everybody,

Have a good time. I'm out of here. I can't,

I can't, I can't do this anyway. Um, yeah. So

that was, that's at the end of the tunnel is, uh, uh,

this giant room with a wooden staircase that goes up

to the, there's two tombs, two chambers up above, uh,

which I've been up to. And, uh, but, but that's,

what's down there. It's, it's, it's dicey, man.

Speaker 1: And when you say tunes, are you talking about sarcophagi?

Speaker 2: Again, no, just the arias are there.

Speaker 1: So they managed to.

Speaker 2: Well, they never finished it. Okay, so the reason why

it's bent on the top, it's very steep on the

bottom and it's bent, is because it started to collapse

on itself. So they brought in... This is Senefru, man.

it's crazy, Imhotep, right? The dude, his engineer, his designer,

his architect. So the way that it was collapsing on itself,

they brought in all these timbers, these wooden beams, and

they installed them on the inside of the pyramid. And

they're giant wooden beams. scaffolding that goes across to keep

the pyramid from collapsing on top of itself. And then

they built the top half at another angle. But nobody

ever occupied it. He ended up building the Red Pyramid

up the street.

Speaker 1: So the historians say that all of these pyramids were

them trying to, to refine their ability. And then they

built the great pyramid.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 1: And I had this conversation and said, no, the great

pyramid is like 50,000 years old.

Speaker 2: It was already there.

Speaker 1: It was there. And they tried to reproduce it and failed. Yeah.

Speaker 2: So I have no problems. No. Well, here's the thing

with that. And I agree with Hakeem. Um, When you

go to Giza, especially after you go to different sites,

you know, Hatshepsut is a really good example. But you

go around, you know, Dendara, Abydos. You go to Camambo.

You go to these different places. And then you go

to Giza. And Giza just feels way old. Way old.

It doesn't look like everything else that you go and visit.

It's just got a different feel and a different vibe.

Speaker 1: It has a different feel, absolutely, because it is, again,

it's the epicentral point on the planet, longitude and latitude.

It's like whatever, I mean, my humble opinion is that

some civilization was like, oh, that's the point.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you go to, I'm so glad

you brought up the Sphinx because When you go inside

the Sphinx enclosure, and Robert Schock, great work. DeLubich, great work.

John Anthony West, great work. No question about it that

they opened our minds up and the world to these ideas.

But when you go into the Sphinx enclosure, it is

frigging old. It's old. It's rounded. It's weathered.

Speaker 1: It is.

Speaker 2: You go to these other sites where everything is precise

and cut and thick and beautiful and engraved and painted.

And you go to the Sphinx enclosure and the Great Pyramid,

by the way. And you go and you look.

Speaker 1: No, man.

Speaker 2: All those temples at Giza, all of them are old. Really,

really old.

Speaker 1: Bearing in mind that the Sphinx was buried up to

the neck until when? 1957? Napoleon. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1: Yeah. What am I saying? 57. Imagine that. Imagine Napoleon

arriving there and seeing all this sand, this huge pyramid zone.

I said this. And then this head.

Speaker 2: Right. When you look at the drawings that Napoleon's artists

did in that period, when they first arrived there, the pyramid,

the Great Pyramid, is covered in sand. It's going halfway

up the pyramid. And so all of Giza, now today,

you know, they're trucking sand out of there every single day.

But back then, that was, you know, there was nothing there.

The pyramids, the head of the Sphinx, and sand.

Speaker 1: Imagine. Yeah. I have to say that in 1997 already,

there was such a different experience there. That little village,

these people had lived there for generations where Hakeem had

his house. And then imagine just sitting on his balcony

underneath the Sphinx, right? And before the gate and the

doors and the parking lot, it was just stepping off

and being on the sand.

Speaker 2: I can't imagine. Well, like Muhammad said, you know, they

were just riding their bikes.

Speaker 1: Yeah. And like Hakeem said, we went down and played.

He said there was an entrance. I said, was it

a hole? He said something like a hole, but not exactly.

I said, okay, something like the Osiris shaft. He said, no,

not that serious. You just, we found a way to

go down. And then he said it was nonstop tunnels.

They played all the time.

Speaker 2: You know how close we were until Napoleon. Okay. If

it wasn't for Napoleon, none of you and I are

not having this conversation. But this is the insane part.

And Hakeem talks about this, and I talk about it

a lot. In the year 425 A.D., the last hieroglyphic carving,

the last hieroglyph was carved in a temple in 425.

That priest died. And when that priest died, nobody knew

how to read hieroglyphs. Nobody knew how to read the

ancient language. And everything was forgotten. So Egypt itself was

this mythological place, this Shangri-La, this mythological place. And until

Napoleon showed up, we didn't know anything. So Napoleon discovered

in his team the Rosetta Stone. That happened because of Napoleon,

and it wasn't deciphered until 1822. All right? Now, when

you think about that, 200 years ago, right? Just 200

years ago. So from Cleopatra to Napoleon, nobody knew anything.

Speaker 1: And now imagine that Gobekli Tepe, which is 10,500 years old.

Karahan Tepe is another thousand years old. And all of

it's being discovered there. Again, it's another, we don't understand

what the glyphs mean, although there are all kinds of interpretations.

But you do know that on one of the pillars

you have the famous purse, the famous purse, the Babylonians,

the Marians.

Speaker 2: There's three of them at the top.

Speaker 1: Three of them. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 1: It's fascinating to me that there's three purses. This theme

keeps reoccurring in all the sites.

Speaker 2: Around the world. Yeah. Right?

Speaker 1: Around the world. What is your understanding of what's in

those bags?

Speaker 2: I've interviewed so many different people that are much smarter

than me. And everybody's got a different take. I do know.

That whatever it is was so important that these different

cultures carved it in stone for us. Right? It was that.

Speaker 1: Over and over again.

Speaker 2: Yeah. It was that important. And so some form of knowledge.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Some form of knowledge.

Speaker 1: A symbol of the knowledge being carried. Mm-hmm. From the

gods being handed in this bag. But the fact that

it's the same position of the arm every time. I mean,

in the case of Gobekli Tepe, it's just the three

bags on the pillar, right? But you, as you well know,

it's always the same with the arm.

Speaker 2: Sort of outstretched. Yeah, the Mesopotamian depictions of it. It's

in Peru. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: Mexico. Mexico.

Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes. Same identical purse. I'm going to call

it a purse, right?

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: The handbag. So, I mean, was it the nuclear codes?

Is it DNA? Is it this? Is it seeds? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is it the nuclear football? So, I think whatever, I

think it was knowledge. It was knowledge. I think so, too.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: And some things, I mean, it was preserved for us.

But if we go back, we don't have the answers.

And that's the crazy part. It was so important then,

but today we don't have a clue. And there are

many examples of just that. I'll give you another little taste,

a little nugget. We know now. that the pharaohs all

wore two crowns, one for Upper Egypt, one for Lower Egypt.

Lower Egypt was the white conical crown. Upper Egypt was

the conical white. And Lower Egypt, which is on the

Mediterranean where Cairo is, they had a red crown on

the front. So it was the combination of the two,

Upper and Lower Egypt united under one king. Okay. Pharaohs

and gods for the next 3,000 years all wore the crown.

The two crowns. It's in every temple. Papyri. It's everywhere.

You ready? We've never found them. There are no crowns

in existence. But for 3,000 years, every pharaoh wore one.

And then so, You would ask, what about King Tut's tomb? Right?

We had thousands of artifacts in there. No crown.

Speaker 1: So symbolic.

Speaker 2: Don't know.

Speaker 1: The thing about the purses is the idea that they're

bringing knowledge works for me. But why is it identical

all around the planet in this bag?

Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right, right. So trading knowledge. The sacred knowledge,

like I said, could it be DNA? Could it be bloodlines?

Is it, you know, like the Library of Alexandria, right?

Is it knowledge that is being traded and handed off

between cultures? And I would say that that is probably

pretty close where these cultures around the world obviously communicated

with each other. and to have the same stuff identically

carved into stone and to say that it's just a thing.

It's not, it's not.

Speaker 1: It had to be the gods. Let's say the ETs

presented themselves with the same symbology for all these different civilizations,

but it is very trippy. I mean, when I was

in Gobekli Tepe, which is a phenomenon, there's a lot

of mixed feelings about what's going on there, uh, which

we don't have time to get into now, but, um,

It's not all love and light at Gobekli Tepe. And

you know that they buried, they believed, Charles Schmidt, I believe,

was the archaeologist who believes that they deliberately buried the temple.

And it's got some strange energy going on. But they

still have those three bags.

Speaker 2: You know where there's a, I can guarantee you where

there's a handbag today. It may be even the Pharaoh's crown. Where?

Inside CERN. I'm just saying, man.

Speaker 1: Oh, God.

Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. The Illuminati room. You know,

we talk about these bloodlines and cabals and who is

really running. There is probably some castle, right, in northern Europe.

Pick the country. Luxembourg. Whatever. Switzerland. Some Rothschild mansion. You

go over there.

Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: Exactly. And so you go over to the Rothschilds pad

for dinner and they go, hey, you want to see

my Sumerian handbag? I got one. It's in my curiosity

cabinet in the living room. Next to my next to

my pharaoh's crown.

Speaker 1: That's very interesting I never thought about the fact that

I've never seen one of those.

Speaker 2: Crowns yeah for 3,000 years and not one.

Speaker 1: A symbol symbolic I don't.

Speaker 2: Think it's symbolic I think they wore them man it's

weird and I'm telling you I'm telling you, just like

those Sumerian handbags. Those crowns are in the possession of somebody.

Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Very, very, very powerful things, like those Sumerian handbags. And

I say Sumerian. It's in every, you know, go back

to Lutepe, for example. They're out there.

Speaker 1: I was flabbergasted when I saw them because I was

not advised about this. So when I went to the museum,

because there's a replica, they've taken it out. I think

the original is in the.

Speaker 2: Check out this post. Hold on. I got to show

you this. It says... I saw a photo of Elon

Musk's mom, and she was carrying a bag like the ancients. Oh, man. See,

that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

Hidden in plain sight.

Speaker 1: I really think that we need to somehow just figure

this thing out with the bags, because it's one of

the great mysteries, and we're so close to understanding it,

but it's always conjecture. There's got to be a way

we can decode this.

Speaker 2: We're already past our deadline here, but I just want

your comments on one thing really quick. We are now

officially neck deep in this AI thing that is happening. Dangerous?

Is there something to worry about?

Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, first of all, I see these videos

and I'm just like, again, it's this parallel. I don't

believe that this is the Nash, the natural progression of

where we were in 2019 to now seven years, eight

years to reach the point where you've got these robots

marching down the street, the automatic cars, the whole thing.

It's too fast. This is why I'm convinced, which is

bringing it back around to the beginning of the conversations.

of have we been catapulted into this artificial or parallel Earth?

And as far as is it dangerous? Well, you know

they're putting human brain cells now into the technology to

try to merge the human brain with the supercomputers.

Speaker 2: 100%.

Speaker 1: And they're making progress. So when we talk about is

it dangerous, The plan is to eliminate Homo sapiens 1.0,

as we are affectionately called, and invent the board, the cyborg.

And unless we stop it, this is the future of

the planet. I do not believe we're going down that way.

Speaker 2: If you had the opportunity, this is just hypothetical. Okay,

open up your mind for a second. You can tell

me to F off if you want. But if you

had the opportunity... If somebody came to you and said, okay, Patricia,

we can upload your memories, your soul, and your entire being,

that is you, into this Android, and you can live

forever illness-free. You don't have to worry about anything. You

can be you and learn and live forever. Do you

do it?

Speaker 1: Negative, because I already know that I'm immortal. I don't

have to be in a physical body that's aged, by

the way. I'm an immortal soul. So the idea of

clinging to some aspect of physical life, even if it's

mechanical physical life, versus going on, crossing over the bridge,

going on to whatever next destination, My soul awaits. I'm

not clinging to physical life.

Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a machine. Right. But

these ultra billionaires, that's what they want to do.

Speaker 1: It's because they don't believe in anything else but the material.

So they're clinging to, I mean, someone I love very

much in my family said, I really envy you. You

really do believe this shit, don't you? I said, what

shit is that? that there's an afterlife that you're going

to go on. I said, yes, I do. He said,

I said, what do you believe? He said, I believe

that this is it. 80 years, if you're lucky and

then you're done. And what a waste of energy. I mean,

what a purposeless thing, 80 years. And then there's nothing

but darkness. He said, there's nothing period. I was like, wow,

it must be very. Yeah. Isn't that horrible?

Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I want to continue to live with

the mind of a five-year-old. Why is there air? I

want to think like that, right? I don't ever want

to lose that. I truly, truly have the same dream

pondering mind that i had when i was 18 i

just happen to be in this body but i i

look look how i live do i do i live

like who we thought a 65 year old man should

live no i don't i'm wearing a zz top t-shirt

it's wonderful you know what i mean So that's, you know,

and that's, I don't want to lose sight of that.

And somebody that, um, uh, is driving around not wondering

or thinking or contemplating, uh, the, the beauty of the universe. And,

and you know what I mean? And you're not, and

you're so closed down that you, you actually believe that

when you die you become fertilizer and you achieved your

place in evolution and that that's all there is man

that's you it's.

Speaker 1: So it's so pointless there's no in the divinity of

creation all the wonder that everything is a leaf a

blade of grass a butterfly in the immensity of creation

What would be the point?

Speaker 2: Yeah, what would be the point? When a baby deer

is drinking water out of an ice-cold bubbling brook, right?

And you're watching that, and you think that there's nothing? Oh, God. Oh, man. No,

that's not me. That's not me.

Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I'm more than happy to go

on to my next destination, which hopefully will include my mother,

who is Sitting on a cloud somewhere, making cappuccino.

Speaker 2: You're so wonderful, Patricia. Thank you so much. Where can

everybody follow your work?

Speaker 1: It's very simple. PatriciaCorey.com is my website. And I'm not

really active very much on social media, but I am

on Facebook.

Speaker 2: Yeah, right on. I can't wait to come hang out

with you. And we're going to go.

Speaker 1: You keep promising.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. Let's go knock some doors

down together. All right?

Speaker 1: Let's do it.

Speaker 2: Patricia, you're the best. Enjoy the rest of your night.

Now we hear their crickets. Okay.

Speaker 1: Thanks a million, Jimmy.

Speaker 2: You're the best. Thank you, Patricia.

Speaker 1: Good night.

Speaker 2: Good night. What a perfect, perfect night on the show.

Thank you, Patricia. And, uh, of course, an amazing way

to start out the week here on fade to black.

She's absolutely wonderful. Uh, Patricia Corey, the links are below

over at our website and throughout social media. Uh, Tomorrow

night on the show, what am I doing tomorrow night?

Does anybody know what I'm doing tomorrow night on the show?

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