Bonus Episode: The Case of the Missing Red Slippers
In this week’s Wrap Party, Zeth is taking a close look at the brazen robbery of Judy Garland’s iconic ruby red slippers from ‘The Wizard of Oz.’ Later, he’s joined by Disgraceland’s Jake Brennan to give recommendations for great songs and movies that are actually cover versions. Plus your voicemails, texts, emails, and more. Become an All Access member today by visiting disgracelandpod.com.
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Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywood Land, does it feel like you're
Speaker 1: stuck in limbo? Standing under a flickering street light at
Speaker 1: the corner of Hollywood and True Crime, waiting for the
Speaker 1: next episode of hollywood Land to drop. I got you.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywoodland, the Rap Party. What is shaken? My
Speaker 1: fellow movie geeks, you true crime freaks just like me.
Speaker 1: You guys like your movie history served up with a
Speaker 1: side of grit and grime. And this, of course, is
Speaker 1: the place where we rescue those stories from the cutting
Speaker 1: room floor, the stories that we're left behind, the very
Speaker 1: same stories that have now made you the most dangerous
Speaker 1: person at the party. I'm your host, Zeth Lundy, writer, showrunner,
Speaker 1: and good doctor here at Double Elvis, and today in
Speaker 1: the hollywood Land Rap Party, We're talking about red Shoes,
Speaker 1: Red Slippers, one of the craziest stories about the heist
Speaker 1: of a pair of classic Hollywood memorabilia. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Judy Garland talking about movie remakes. I've got recommendations from
Speaker 1: me and Jake Brennan about great cover songs, great cover movies,
Speaker 1: and your calls, your texts and emails. So come on, everybody,
Speaker 1: let's party. The first job I got when I moved
Speaker 1: to Boston to go to college back in the mid
Speaker 1: nineties was as a security guard at the Isabella Stuart
Speaker 1: Gardner Museum. The Gardener, as it's commonly referred to, is
Speaker 1: one of the most unique museums you'll ever encounter. Located
Speaker 1: near Femway and not too far from the other major
Speaker 1: museum in town, the Museum of Fine Arts, the Gardener
Speaker 1: is a curated collection of paintings, sculptures, furniture, and tapestries
Speaker 1: that were purchased by its namesake, Isabella Stuart Gardner. Gardner
Speaker 1: was a philanthropist originally from New York City who traveled
Speaker 1: the world buying up all these incredible pieces of art
Speaker 1: and history, which she then brought back to this building
Speaker 1: on Femway Court, a breathtaking piece of architecture which opened
Speaker 1: to the public in nineteen o three, in which provides
Speaker 1: three stories of iconic art, as well as a gorgeous
Speaker 1: courtyard in the center featuring plants and flowers that bloom
Speaker 1: in all four seasons. But there's another unique quality to
Speaker 1: the Gardener that continues to draw crowds to this day,
Speaker 1: and this is the thing that every single guest talks
Speaker 1: about when they visit, and I know this from my
Speaker 1: one year as a security guard there. Everyone wants to
Speaker 1: know about the heist. The Isabella Gardner Museum is, of course,
Speaker 1: the site of the most infamous art heist in history,
Speaker 1: a heist that rem to this day thirty six years
Speaker 1: later unsolved. In the early hours of March eighteenth, nineteen ninety,
Speaker 1: as the city was putting itself to bed after another
Speaker 1: rousing day and night of Saint Patrick's Date celebrations, two
Speaker 1: men posing as Boston police officers gained entrance to the museum.
Speaker 1: They proceeded to steal thirteen works of art from inside,
Speaker 1: including one of only a handful of paintings ever created
Speaker 1: by Johann Vermir. They stole numerous Rembrandts, a Dega, a Menet,
Speaker 1: and a Flink, though curiously they did not take Titians
Speaker 1: the Rape of Europa, which was one of the most
Speaker 1: valuable pieces in the Gardener's collection. The total worth of
Speaker 1: the stolen art is now estimated to be worth somewhere
Speaker 1: in the five hundred million dollar range. What upsets art
Speaker 1: historians and enthusiasts the most about this heist is that
Speaker 1: the paintings were all cut out of their frames, which
Speaker 1: raises multiple concerns about how their violent removal damaged the canvases,
Speaker 1: and the museum has left the frames of the missing
Speaker 1: pieces of art intact on the walls, alongside other artwork
Speaker 1: that has remained, reminding visitors of what happened and prompting
Speaker 1: visitors to discuss one of the most brazen and puzzling
Speaker 1: crimes in Boston's history. From floor to floor to floor,
Speaker 1: I wonder if Judy Garland ever wandered the halls of
Speaker 1: the Gardener Museum during one of her many visits to Boston.
Speaker 1: We know that she performed at the Boston Common, We
Speaker 1: know she took in a Red Sox game at Famway Park,
Speaker 1: and we know that she frequented the Lenox Hotel. We
Speaker 1: even know that she did at least one stint at
Speaker 1: Brigham Hospital in Boston in nineteen forty nine, when she
Speaker 1: was desperately trying to kick her addiction to pills. Judy
Speaker 1: Garland's reliance on pills and prescription drugs was a product
Speaker 1: of her childhood and her exploitation by Hollywood. On the
Speaker 1: set of the nineteen thirty nine MGM film The Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz Judy was not alone. Many child actors at
Speaker 1: the time were given pills to perk them up, pills
Speaker 1: to calm them down, all the while being fed a
Speaker 1: restrictive and extremely unhealthy diet to maintain their low weight.
Speaker 1: But the story of Judy Garland in some ways shares
Speaker 1: similarities with this story about the Gardner Museum because the
Speaker 1: story of Judy Garland involves a brazen heist, and to
Speaker 1: get into that story, I got to back up and
Speaker 1: talk about The Wizard of Oz real quick. So in
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine, when the film was shot, The Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz was one of the most expensive movies ever made.
Speaker 1: There were over nine thousand actors, over four hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty crew members, in over six thousand contractors, working across
Speaker 1: the thirty sound stages in sixty five different sets. The extravagant,
Speaker 1: three million dollar production was released in theaters at the
Speaker 1: end of the Great Depression, giving down on their luck,
Speaker 1: Americans somewhere over the Rainbow to dream about, like those slippers,
Speaker 1: the red slippers, Judy Garland's size five sequined shoes. There's
Speaker 1: something about red shoes, whether it's the song by Elvis
Speaker 1: Costello or the song by Tom Waits, or the nineteen
Speaker 1: forty nine Powell and Pressburger film, or a classic pair
Speaker 1: of Air Jordan's red shoes have an appeal as something
Speaker 1: unique and outside the norm, something you sing about, something
Speaker 1: you make a movie about, something you want for yourself.
Speaker 1: But Judy Garland's red shoes from the Wizard of Oz
Speaker 1: are something else entirely, And I do mean shoes as implural,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't just one pair that Judy wore. There
Speaker 1: were numerous pairs created for the Wizard of Oz movie shoot.
Speaker 1: These were white pumps that were painted or dyed red
Speaker 1: with hundreds of sequins hands sown into them with silk thread. Now,
Speaker 1: when the market for vintage movie memorabilia really started to
Speaker 1: take off in the nineteen sixties, items like Judy Garland's
Speaker 1: red shoes from The Wizard of Oz became a coveted
Speaker 1: piece of cinema history. When MGM held an auction in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy to sell off a bunch of movie props
Speaker 1: from its decorated history, most people thought that the pair
Speaker 1: of red slippers from the Wizard of Oz were one
Speaker 1: of a kind, and the person who won that auction
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy and bought the pair for fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Certainly thought so, But slowly other pairs began to emerge.
Speaker 1: There's the pair that currently reside at the Smithsonian Museum
Speaker 1: of American History in Washington, d C. There's the pair
Speaker 1: that two California collectors bought at a Christie's auction in
Speaker 1: two thousand for six hundred and sixty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Very interesting number to be attached to this pair of slippers.
Speaker 1: Six Then there's the pair that Debbie Reynolds once owned
Speaker 1: in which were auctioned off in twenty eleven for over
Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. There's the pair
Speaker 1: that was sold to a group of Hollywood collectors collectors
Speaker 1: including Leonardo DiCaprio, which went on display at the Academy
Speaker 1: of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences. And then there's the
Speaker 1: so called traveling pair. This pair of Judy Garland's ruby
Speaker 1: red slippers were purchased by an LA acting coach and
Speaker 1: amateur collector named Michael Shaw, who loaned them out to
Speaker 1: festivals and museums, including the Judy Garland Museum in Judy's
Speaker 1: hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan, where in the year two
Speaker 1: thousand and five they were stolen. On the evening of
Speaker 1: August twenty seventh, two thousand and five, a single staffer
Speaker 1: at the Judy Garland Museum closed up shop, set the alarm,
Speaker 1: locked the door, and left. The next morning. When she
Speaker 1: returned shortly before ten as she noticed that the alarm
Speaker 1: system was in auxiliary mode, which she had never seen before.
Speaker 1: An emergency door window was shattered, and the plexiglass case
Speaker 1: protecting the traveling pair of Judy Garland's red slippers had
Speaker 1: been smashed to pieces, and the shoes were gone. There
Speaker 1: were rumors that some local kids did it. There were
Speaker 1: rumors that Michael Shaw, the owner of the shoes, did it,
Speaker 1: rumors fueled by the eight hundred thousand dollars insurance payout
Speaker 1: that Shaw received two years later in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: When the shoes remained missing. Over the years, the cops
Speaker 1: got many tips. They all turned out to be dead ends.
Speaker 1: They were replicas, fakes Fugazi's. The case was passed down
Speaker 1: from one investigator to another. It went cold, but occasionally
Speaker 1: warmed up, like in July twenty seventeen, twelve years later,
Speaker 1: when Grand Rapids lead investigator Brian Matson got a call.
Speaker 1: The caller said he knew who had the Perlin slippers
Speaker 1: and sent a photo of the supposed thief and sent
Speaker 1: a photo that the supposed thief had taken of them
Speaker 1: at their place of residence. The photo was taken digitally,
Speaker 1: so it included metadata, including GPS coordinates of its location.
Speaker 1: But shortly thereafter, Matson heard from a lawyer who was
Speaker 1: representing the caller who had called Matson because the alleged
Speaker 1: thief had since become upset that this person was talking
Speaker 1: to the cops. So this seemed like a real thing,
Speaker 1: real enough that Matson got the FBI involved and the
Speaker 1: FEDS took over. They reached out to the lawyer who
Speaker 1: had gotten in touch with Matson and arranged a meeting
Speaker 1: without letting the guy know that he was talking to
Speaker 1: and now planning to meet the FBI. This is something
Speaker 1: that happens, by the way, a piece of art or
Speaker 1: other valuable will get stolen, It'll get passed off to
Speaker 1: a person called a fence who kind of holds onto it,
Speaker 1: and then years later, after the statute of limitations has
Speaker 1: run out, the fence the thief they'll attempt to sell
Speaker 1: this item with the help of a lawyer or another intermediary.
Speaker 1: So in twenty eighteen, the FEDS meet up with this
Speaker 1: lawyer who brings the traveling pair of Judy Garland's red slippers.
Speaker 1: Before making themselves known, the FEDS watch from a safe distance.
Speaker 1: They watch the lawyer go into a coffee shop that's
Speaker 1: near the agreed upon spot. He orders a coffee, and
Speaker 1: then he puts the red shoes on a table and
Speaker 1: leaves them there while he goes to use the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Needless to say, the FBI got the shoes and they
Speaker 1: were the real deal. These were the red shoes that
Speaker 1: had been stolen from the Judy Garland Museum some thirteen
Speaker 1: years prior. Now. This led to the arrest of the thief,
Speaker 1: a man named Terry John Martin, who was around fifty
Speaker 1: six years old when he when he stole the shoes
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and five. Martin was an ex
Speaker 1: khan who had served what he'd hoped was his last
Speaker 1: prison term a decade prior, but he was tempted to
Speaker 1: pull off just one last score when he heard about
Speaker 1: these red shoes. He'd been given a tip by an
Speaker 1: old mob associate that the shoes were adorned with real jewels,
Speaker 1: thus the one million dollar insured value. But once he
Speaker 1: got them in his hands, Martin discovered that they weren't
Speaker 1: real jewels, they weren't real rubies, they were just sequins
Speaker 1: and glass beads. So we got rid of them, and
Speaker 1: that's how they wound up in the hands of Jerry
Speaker 1: hal Soliderman of Minnesota. Salitderman was in his mid seventies
Speaker 1: when he faced a judge. He was charged with theft
Speaker 1: of a major artwork and witnessed hampering. The indictment stated
Speaker 1: that from August two thousand and five to July twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: Soliderman quote, received, concealed, and disposed of an object of
Speaker 1: cultural heritage unquote. The indictment further claims that he knew
Speaker 1: that they were stolen, and that he had threatened to
Speaker 1: release a sex tape that featured footage of an unknown
Speaker 1: woman and said he would take her down with him
Speaker 1: if she didn't keep quiet about the shoes. Salanderman died
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five at the age of seventy seven
Speaker 1: before he could be sentenced. Now Terry John Martin, on
Speaker 1: the other hand, the original thief. He was seventy six
Speaker 1: years old when he faced a judge in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: He pleaded guilty, and due to his age and failing health,
Speaker 1: he was sentenced to time served and was ordered to
Speaker 1: pay twenty three thousand, five hundred dollars in restitution to
Speaker 1: the museum at the tune of three hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 1: But what happened to the red shoes, Well, they were
Speaker 1: put up for auction, and in December of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four they sold for a record twenty eight million dollars,
Speaker 1: which far exceeded the previous record for a piece of
Speaker 1: entertainment rebelia. That would be Marilyn Monroe's white dress that
Speaker 1: she wore while standing over a windy subway grate in
Speaker 1: the seven year Itch, which had fetched less than six
Speaker 1: million dollars years prior. Judy Garland died this week, back
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty nine, on June twenty second, to be exact,
Speaker 1: and we've got her in the feed this week and
Speaker 1: on the brain. Perhaps you've already heard our fully scripted
Speaker 1: and sound design episode on Judday Juday Judea from a
Speaker 1: few days ago back on Monday. Come in this Friday. However,
Speaker 1: we're gonna shift gears just a little bit. We're gonna
Speaker 1: shift up to an adjacent gear. That is, we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the twenty eighteen film A Star Is Born,
Speaker 1: directed by and starring Bradley Cooper along with Lady Gaga.
Speaker 1: This is a remake of the nineteen seventy six film
Speaker 1: starring Barbara Streisand and Chris Christofferson, which was a remake
Speaker 1: of the nineteen fifty four film starring Judy Garland and
Speaker 1: James Mason, which was a remake of the nineteen thirty
Speaker 1: seven film star ring Janet Gaynor and Frederick Marsh. This
Speaker 1: prompted our question of the week for this week, which
Speaker 1: is what is your favorite film that is a remake
Speaker 1: of another film? And I've got your responses to that
Speaker 1: question the week coming up here very soon. And then
Speaker 1: later in the show, I'll be joined as I usually am,
Speaker 1: by Jake Brennan, my guy from Disgraceland. We're going to
Speaker 1: give you, guys some recommendations for songs and movies that
Speaker 1: are covers of older songs and movies. But before we
Speaker 1: get into all that, let's peer into our crystal ball
Speaker 1: real quick and see what we've got coming up for
Speaker 1: you next week. Next week, we've got our fully scripted
Speaker 1: and sound design episode from our archive on Bob Crane.
Speaker 1: If you watch NICKD. Knight back in the day, you
Speaker 1: remember Bob Crane from the reruns of the nineteen sixties
Speaker 1: sitcom Hogan's Heroes. But Bob Crane lived a secret double
Speaker 1: life that few people knew about. His custom built pornographic
Speaker 1: paradises were hidden behind the clothes doors of his dressing
Speaker 1: room and apartment. He was obsessed with extra marital sexual exploits,
Speaker 1: and he documented them with cutting edge technology. The joy
Speaker 1: he received from making people smile was matched only by
Speaker 1: his need to fill his darkest desires, a need that
Speaker 1: would end in murder. This is tragic territory, but it's
Speaker 1: also scandalous territory, which leads me to next week's question
Speaker 1: of the week, which is what is a Hollywood scandal
Speaker 1: that absolutely shocked you when it broke? Hit me up
Speaker 1: and let me know. You can call or text me
Speaker 1: at six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
Speaker 1: You can also email me at disgracelambpod at gmail dot com,
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Speaker 1: Go jump into the chat and let me know. And
Speaker 1: while you're doing that, I'm going to take a quick break,
Speaker 1: but I'll be right back with your voicemail, as your
Speaker 1: texts and your emails and more so, do as Sir
Speaker 1: Rod Stewart says, and stay with me. All right, gang,
Speaker 1: we are back Zeth Lundy hanging out with you here
Speaker 1: in the wrap party. The Doctor is in six one
Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. That's how
Speaker 1: you get in touch. We're talking about some of our
Speaker 1: favorite movie remix of all time. I've got the receipts here, guys.
Speaker 1: First of all, I got a text here from the
Speaker 1: four to four to oh, which reads hey there. Below
Speaker 1: are some of the best remix of all time, Ocean's eleven,
Speaker 1: The Thing, the Magnificent Seven, A Fistful of Dollars, Invasion
Speaker 1: of the Body Snatchers, The Departed, the four to four oh.
Speaker 1: Here mentions after a fifth full of Dollars, love seeing
Speaker 1: Kurasawa being slotted into a Western and Yeah, A Fistful
Speaker 1: of Dollars is a remake of Curisawa's Akira Kurasawa's nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty one film Yo Jimbo, and also The Magnificent Seven.
Speaker 1: Here on your list is a remake of Kurasawa's nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty four film The Seventh Samurai. And it's amazing how
Speaker 1: well these Samurai movies translate to westerns. I mean, they
Speaker 1: were essentially Japanese westerns that were being made just about
Speaker 1: a different time in place, right the Seventh Samurai. You know,
Speaker 1: I love this list for four to oh. I was
Speaker 1: never able to get behind the Magnificent Seven being better
Speaker 1: than the Seven Samurai, just because Seven Samurai was like
Speaker 1: my entry point to Kurasawa. I was the first Kursawa
Speaker 1: film I ever saw, fell in love with it and
Speaker 1: still love it to this day. And I do love
Speaker 1: the Magnificent Seven. And to your point, I love seeing
Speaker 1: kurasaw being translated into into an American Western. But Seven
Speaker 1: sam Urayi, for me is just is just the best
Speaker 1: yo jimbo that's been made, that's been remade or movies
Speaker 1: have been inspired by that for a long time. There
Speaker 1: was a movie with Bruce Willis called Last Man Standing
Speaker 1: that was highly influenced by that. You know, these movies
Speaker 1: were like, you know, a stranger rolls into town and
Speaker 1: ends up like, you know, saving people or dealing with
Speaker 1: two warring factions, very much cut from the Yojimbo cloth.
Speaker 1: Thank you for four to oh for your text. Okay,
Speaker 1: got another one here from the eight O three, which says,
Speaker 1: uh oh, I think it's from the eight four to three.
Speaker 1: Sorry the eight o three, but the text starts with
Speaker 1: hey from the four to one three here anyways, wherever
Speaker 1: you're from, Texter you write. First, have to say, I'm
Speaker 1: fairly new to this outstanding podcast, and I've been catching
Speaker 1: up on archives between new episodes. Well, thank you, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's my remake. Picks nothing against William Bendix, who was
Speaker 1: perfect for his era, but the Babe over the Babe
Speaker 1: Ruth story and heaven can wait over Here comes mister
Speaker 1: Jordan Bendix against John Goodman and Warren Baty just isn't
Speaker 1: a fair fight, and the Jeff bridges true grit over
Speaker 1: the John Wayne original. The overall casting, cinematography, and faithfulness
Speaker 1: to the source material gives the remake an insurmountable edge.
Speaker 1: Ato three completely agree with you on true grit. I
Speaker 1: think it's incredible, and I think it's overlooked because it
Speaker 1: is a remake and people just think like, oh, here
Speaker 1: we go retreading the same thing, same material, but it
Speaker 1: very much is a different film in all the ways
Speaker 1: that you mentioned. It's one of my dark horse favorite
Speaker 1: Coen Brothers movies. I have never seen the original William
Speaker 1: Bendix films that you mentioned. I know of them, of course,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean John Goodman. It's hard to be
Speaker 1: John Goodman as Babe Ruth. So appreciate you Ato three
Speaker 1: four to one three, wherever you're from, wherever you're calling from,
Speaker 1: appreciate the text. Got another text here on the same
Speaker 1: subject from the eight six to oh, which says Colin
Speaker 1: from the eight six to oh, here favorite remake is
Speaker 1: John Carpenter's remake of The Thing from Another World. Such
Speaker 1: a great movie. I watch it every year on the
Speaker 1: night of the first big snowfall. That's a great tradition,
Speaker 1: the first big snowfall watching the Thing. I just rewatched
Speaker 1: this recently with my son and my wife, who had
Speaker 1: not My wife had not seen it, and we showed it.
Speaker 1: We wanted her to see it, and she was not
Speaker 1: as into it as we wanted her to be. It's
Speaker 1: just not her thing. The Thing is not her thing.
Speaker 1: But I love this, I love this idea for the
Speaker 1: first big snowfall. That's a great tradition thanks to eight
Speaker 1: six to oh all right, switching gears a little bit
Speaker 1: and again, Email Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com if
Speaker 1: you want to get in touch. I was talking about
Speaker 1: Spielberg last week because I was talking about I just
Speaker 1: saw a disclosure today. I also rewatched catch Me if
Speaker 1: you can ahead of that, and I've got Munich on
Speaker 1: deck rewatch. I have not rewatched Munich since it came out,
Speaker 1: and it's been on my mind for a while. I
Speaker 1: was listening to a couple of different podcasts about people
Speaker 1: talking about Spielberg's career in relation to Disclosure Day, and
Speaker 1: Munich kept on coming up, and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I got to rewatch that. At some point. I haven't.
Speaker 1: It's been too long, So I got that queue dep So,
Speaker 1: speaking of all that stuff, I got an email here
Speaker 1: from Jason and the subject line is Spielbergo. It says,
Speaker 1: hi Zeth Jason in the eight four or five. I
Speaker 1: understand his technical brilliance and his impact as a towering giant. However,
Speaker 1: I only like two films, Jaws and Raiders of the
Speaker 1: Lost Arc Why because he always tells you how to
Speaker 1: feel in every film. Instead of letting you figure it out,
Speaker 1: he uses close ups to force feed you emotions, and
Speaker 1: he also shoves John Williams down your throat telegraphing everything. Hey,
Speaker 1: I know everyone disagrees with me, but I actually do
Speaker 1: know some people who agree with me. Not many, but
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun to argue with you, guys.
Speaker 1: I want films that don't spoonfeed you as to remakes.
Speaker 1: Wild at Heart comes to mind, and The Magnificent Seven.
Speaker 1: Thanks Jason. So Spielberg, I hear this. I've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about being radicalized when I went to film school,
Speaker 1: and this is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Spielberg and emotional manipulation, and this is what this
Speaker 1: is what you know, our professors at school wanted to
Speaker 1: sort of detach us from was this ingrained sense of
Speaker 1: manipulation at the movies. But so for a while there
Speaker 1: I was, I was in full agreement with you. I
Speaker 1: kind of like got off the Spielberg train for a minute.
Speaker 1: But I've come back around, and I don't know, Sometimes
Speaker 1: I want to be manipulated, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm into it. I'm into it, like make me feel
Speaker 1: the things and what you want me to feel. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm curious if there's any other movies
Speaker 1: that that Spielberg made besides Jaws and Raiders of the
Speaker 1: Lost Arc that you feel don't do this. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: no based on your message here. But listen, I always
Speaker 1: appreciate thepposite point of view and uh and I do
Speaker 1: hear you. There is some validity to what you are
Speaker 1: saying and what you're complaining about. I get it, I
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: He's just fuck.
Speaker 1: He's such a good filmmaker, all right, Jason, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you as always. Man. Okay, you got another chext here
Speaker 1: from the four four oh, and it reads uh oh,
Speaker 1: let me back up here for a minute, backing up. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that was too fat. It's more of a dude, dude, dude.
Speaker 1: Here's my backup alarm. A couple of weeks ago, we
Speaker 1: were talking about uh, we were talking about Lucille Ball.
Speaker 1: We were talking about funny performances by women by comedians. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's there's your context. Here's the text from the four
Speaker 1: to four oh. Hello, Zeth Jefferson from the four four oh.
Speaker 1: I'm responding to your question about the funniest must see
Speaker 1: performances by women. I tried to steer away from seemingly
Speaker 1: obvious answers like bridesmaids and come up with some less
Speaker 1: obvious roles. Nothing against bridesmaids. Those are some of the
Speaker 1: funniest women on the planet, and that movie is hysterical.
Speaker 1: Raising Arizona is one of the funniest movies ever made
Speaker 1: and features terrific performances by both Holly Hunter and Francis McDorman.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to shine some light on a couple
Speaker 1: of great performances in male dominated movies. Is Lea Fisher
Speaker 1: crushes every scene she's in in Wedding Crashers, a movie
Speaker 1: where Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughan are throwing straight heat
Speaker 1: for two hours and Leslie Mann pops up in the
Speaker 1: forty year Old Virgin for about five minutes is one
Speaker 1: of the funniest parts of the movie. Keep up the
Speaker 1: great work, Hollywood Land has become one of my favorite
Speaker 1: movie pods. Love the conversations. Cheers cheers to you in
Speaker 1: the four to four oh Wedding Crashers is le Fisher's line.
Speaker 1: The I'll find you line is uh, my wife and
Speaker 1: I say that to each other probably like five times
Speaker 1: a week, So I'm fully on board with you there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Francis McDorman is just like Lightning in Raising Arizona. He's
Speaker 1: got to get his diptet. It's the best, It's the best,
Speaker 1: four to four to Oh, you're speaking my language. I
Speaker 1: love it. Got another email here from Mark, this one
Speaker 1: I think I when I was talking about Disclosure Day,
Speaker 1: I was talking about how I didn't think too much
Speaker 1: about Emily Blunt, but I was blown away by a
Speaker 1: performance in this and this is what Mark is responding to.
Speaker 1: Mark says, Zeth, it's your boy, Mark here from the
Speaker 1: four one five. While listening to your always excellent show
Speaker 1: this week, I was shocked, nay stunned by your lack
Speaker 1: of love for the great Emily Blunt. Not only is
Speaker 1: she amazing and Disclosure Day which seemed an aberration to you,
Speaker 1: but I would like to draw your attention to the
Speaker 1: following movies she has starred or co starred in and
Speaker 1: gave stellar performances. Scario, Emily plays an FBI agent caught
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Speaker 2: I'll be covering James Brown today, Ladies and gentlemen. My
Speaker 2: my people are applying the cape as we speak, and
Speaker 2: they're propping me up onto the stage. I just I
Speaker 2: gave it my all before I get in here, hardest
Speaker 2: working manage.
Speaker 1: An after Are you actually like, are you actually out
Speaker 1: of breath and you and you need someone to help
Speaker 1: you out? Is that just a Is that just for show?
Speaker 2: I'm fucking toast. I need all the drugs. I need
Speaker 2: all the all the assistants. Speaking of drugs and assistance,
Speaker 2: you're talking Star is Born this week, right.
Speaker 1: I am so Judy Garland is our subject. But in
Speaker 1: the screening room, I'm doing not her version of A
Speaker 1: Star is Born. I'm doing the Bradley Cooper Lady Gaga version,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. We've never talked about this movie before,
Speaker 1: So I was thinking, you know that his version of
Speaker 1: A starsbourn is like a cover of the original. Well,
Speaker 1: there's been numerous covers of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the third or the fourth cover of
Speaker 2: the Stars Born. It's a third, right, it's the No,
Speaker 2: it's the fourth, it's it covers the Chris Christopherson Barber
Speaker 2: Streisan one, which covers the Judy Girl in One, which
Speaker 2: I believe is the second one.
Speaker 3: I could be right.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think there's a much earlier one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, speaking of early movies, just real quick,
Speaker 2: I had criteria in as today.
Speaker 3: I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2: It's on just like play right, yeah, and this this
Speaker 2: movie comes on.
Speaker 3: It's a silent movie.
Speaker 2: It looks and sounds unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Right, how does it sound unbelievable if it's a silent movie?
Speaker 2: Music music, Okay? And it has a black guy in
Speaker 2: the lead.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm like, this isn't from nineteen twenty five,
Speaker 2: Like it can't. It can't be a silent movie, right,
Speaker 2: I look it up?
Speaker 3: Sure, shit, it is?
Speaker 1: What movie?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Night and Day?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: Black Filmmaker nineteen twenty five? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible, incredible.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, check it out, check it out?
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: I'm not covering that anytime soon. This cover thing is tough, man,
Speaker 2: It's tough this question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want so, I want you recommendations for best
Speaker 1: cover songs. Three are just three, three great recommendations for
Speaker 1: cover songs. And then I'll give you three for movies.
Speaker 2: This is tough, but the audience loves it, and I
Speaker 2: love I love the movie thing. I'm more excited about
Speaker 2: what you're about to bring to the table here what
Speaker 2: I got. So listen. I was writing about again Sonic
Speaker 2: Youth this morning. So I just have this song in
Speaker 2: my head and it's new to me. I mean, I
Speaker 2: knew it when it came out. I knew when it
Speaker 2: came out. It's the Sonic Youth cover of Carpenter's Superstar.
Speaker 1: Oh right, wasn't that on a Carpenter's tribute record or something? Yes?
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, I'm a Carpenter or a Carpenter whatever.
Speaker 3: Is, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can list off all the bands that
Speaker 2: were on it, because that was your wheelhouse back then.
Speaker 2: What was it like, ri Em And I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Actually, I probably thought the Carpenters were so even though
Speaker 1: bands that I liked were covering them. Probably the time
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck the Carpenter's I'm not listening to.
Speaker 2: This my thoughts exactly. And I was too young to
Speaker 2: care about the Carpenter's or the house sills or any
Speaker 2: of that stuff. I didn't understand. But of course Kim
Speaker 2: Gordon has this appreciation for Karen Carpenter, you know, part
Speaker 2: because of her age and her upbringing and what she
Speaker 2: was listening to during her formative years. But that sonic
Speaker 2: youth version of that song is undeniably cool and fucking creepy.
Speaker 2: And I realized the song is very as Star was born.
Speaker 2: It's written It's not written by Karen Carpenter. It's written
Speaker 2: by Donnie Bonnie and Delaney what's her name, Bonnie Bremo. Oh, yes, okay, right,
Speaker 2: she wrote it. And I think Rita Coolidge had something
Speaker 2: to do with this as well. That was that whole scene.
Speaker 2: Rita Coolidge famously wrote the part in Layla that Eric
Speaker 2: Clapton stole from Rita Coolidge's boyfriend Jim Gordon, who stool
Speaker 2: stole it from Rita Coolidge, the piano part, the famous part, Yes,
Speaker 2: ye so, But Rita Coolidge had something to do with
Speaker 2: this Superstar. The Karen the Carpenter's version of it. So
Speaker 2: my favorite cover songs just to give us, give myself
Speaker 2: some criteria, here are the ones that are interpretations that
Speaker 2: aren't just just like recreations.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I really like it when in an artist, when you
Speaker 2: hear a cover song, it's really hard to do. It's
Speaker 2: really easy to just ape a song, and then it's
Speaker 2: also really easy to just like, I'm going to do
Speaker 2: this song like me. But then it's a whole other
Speaker 2: level to go into that pop music interpreter pace, which
Speaker 2: was a whole thing back when pop music really started
Speaker 2: to explode in the nineteen thirties or whatever, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it was they were interpreting. Everybody
Speaker 2: had their own take on these songs. Singers didn't write
Speaker 2: their songs. They were interpreting the same songs differently. That's
Speaker 2: why people bought them. They wanted to hear their interpretations.
Speaker 2: So the Sonic Youth interpretation is purely sonic youth, but
Speaker 2: it's got sonic youth in this this style that they
Speaker 2: would never be in, and they interpret it in a
Speaker 2: way where the original is kind of about this this
Speaker 2: this couple where like one one is in the ascent
Speaker 2: and the other is still kind of stuck Various Star
Speaker 2: was born, you know what I mean. Yeah, And there's
Speaker 2: a lot of.
Speaker 1: Time coming with the levels of onion layers here.
Speaker 2: Brother, there's a lot. I've been away for four minutes.
Speaker 2: There's a line that says that Karen Carpenter says, I
Speaker 2: forget the lyric exactly, but the line is I want
Speaker 2: I want you to come, like come back and play
Speaker 2: play your your sad guitar. That's when the line kind
Speaker 2: of finishes, sort of I'm paraphrasing. And when she says it,
Speaker 2: it sounds like she's sad and she misses her guy.
Speaker 2: When Thurston Moore says it, it sounds dirty and fucking gross,
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, you know what I mean, especially
Speaker 2: now what we know about thirst and more. I want
Speaker 2: to I'm gonna say this is wrong. I'm very I'm
Speaker 2: very hesitant to be to throw things out here after
Speaker 2: the Blur embarrassment we had on the mic the other.
Speaker 3: Day, which we won't mention you never hear again.
Speaker 2: But there's like one piano chord in this song and
Speaker 2: it's so dark and heavy in the Sonic Youth version,
Speaker 2: and I can totally it's the type of thing. I
Speaker 2: love it because it's the type of thing where I've
Speaker 2: bet in these situations before where the engineer would be like,
Speaker 2: you can't have it that loud here, the mixed engineer can't,
Speaker 2: you can't do that, you can't do that, and they're like, no,
Speaker 2: fuck you, we are doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is.
Speaker 2: So it's the Oasis thing you were talking about, where
Speaker 2: everything's mastered in the room. Just great. So that's my
Speaker 2: first one, so I'll use covered with the carpenters my
Speaker 2: second one.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is the best version of this song, please don't
Speaker 2: let me be miss under stood, which I think the
Speaker 2: most famous version of that song is the Nina Simone
Speaker 2: version of that song.
Speaker 3: She didn't write it songwriters, and.
Speaker 1: So I would argue to the animals, but yes, I would,
Speaker 1: I would say that too, but I love Nina Simone's version.
Speaker 1: I think I heard the Animals first as a kid,
Speaker 1: and that was when I first knew that song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, me as well. But I'm wondering if that's
Speaker 2: if that's our perspective because we were hip to the
Speaker 2: Animals before we were Nina Simone. But then again, I
Speaker 2: probably inflate Nina Simone's popularity based on my perspective as well.
Speaker 2: So who knows. But those are the two popular versions
Speaker 2: of the song, right, am I missing one? Did anyone
Speaker 2: have like a big hit with that song?
Speaker 1: I don't think so? Those are the The third one
Speaker 1: you're gonna mention is really the only the big three
Speaker 1: that I know.
Speaker 2: It's the Elvis Costello version from from what I don't know, Man,
Speaker 2: it depends on what day it is. I could say
Speaker 2: it's his greatest record, King of America, I could, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's some days it is. Yeah, yeah, some days
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: I think on the cover, I think they hype up
Speaker 1: the I think there's a hype sticker on the original
Speaker 1: album cover.
Speaker 2: I think for that song, for that single. Now, for
Speaker 2: those of you guys who don't know King of America,
Speaker 2: it's not like a super popular Elvis Costello record. People
Speaker 2: are gonna think about this year's model and miaim is true?
Speaker 2: Is there a you got the sticker there?
Speaker 1: So it says includes Elvis's version of the Animal's classic
Speaker 1: Don't let Me be Misunderstood.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, look at that.
Speaker 2: Look at that.
Speaker 1: Look at the tower record sticker there?
Speaker 2: Baby, Hey, the Elvis Costello thing on the left there
Speaker 2: the white thing.
Speaker 3: Hold that up again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is crazy. I wrote about this.
Speaker 2: It was that a sticker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a sticker.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say, because I have different artwork
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 1: That's the only place. If this sticker was gone, it
Speaker 1: would not say Elvis anywhere. Well, okay, on the spine
Speaker 1: that says The Costello Show featuring Elvis Costello, But then
Speaker 1: the rest of the record it just says The Costello Show.
Speaker 1: And he's credited as Little Hands of Concrete. Maybe on
Speaker 1: this one LHC or decal thing.
Speaker 2: He had a real thing with his identity. What does
Speaker 2: it say about Declan?
Speaker 1: It's also it says produced by Jay Henry T. Bone
Speaker 1: Burnett and Declan Patrick Aloysius McManus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick Alois's Aloysious.
Speaker 1: I wrote a whole I wrote a whole article or
Speaker 1: column or something once about his identities and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a big thing The Costello Show, The courage brother,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he loves it.
Speaker 3: It's great anyways.
Speaker 1: Napoleon Dynamite, that's him, that comes from him really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In Blood and Chocolate he's credited as Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 2: No shit, Wait, till I tell my oldest that he's
Speaker 2: gonna die.
Speaker 3: Thank you for that. Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: There's a track where his voice sounds better than singing
Speaker 2: that song, which sucks to say because it's not an
Speaker 2: Elvis Costello original.
Speaker 1: What's going on with that take? Like what did he
Speaker 1: do to it? Like his voice sounds So it's the
Speaker 1: so evocative.
Speaker 2: It's the combination of the perfect key for him with
Speaker 2: that song, and and the perfect effort that he's putting
Speaker 2: into it, and the perfect production the sound of it.
Speaker 2: And this is famously the the massive Elvis Costello, t
Speaker 2: Brow and Burnett combination with guys from Elvis Presley's band
Speaker 2: playing on the on this as well. It's just an
Speaker 2: incredible record. And it's not like him again, like with
Speaker 2: you know, the guys from Elvis's crew. He's not like
Speaker 2: trying to be Elvis. But it's a very roots thing.
Speaker 2: But it's a like we were talking about the other day.
Speaker 2: It's they're reimagining sort of rootsy stuff in the modern
Speaker 2: era and it sounds totally new and just amazing. So
Speaker 2: that's my second one. Don't let me be misunderstood by
Speaker 2: Elvis Costello. And I think we have our answer because
Speaker 2: they reference the animals and not Nina Simon when they're
Speaker 2: trying to sell it, right, so right.
Speaker 1: Well they're also probably trying to sell it to white
Speaker 1: audiences too, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, So the third one you're gonna hate. The
Speaker 2: third one great, and that's why I chose it great
Speaker 2: Brian Johnson's career because it's a Bond Scott cover.
Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: I love Brian Johnson. Everybody knows. I just have to
Speaker 2: you don't like Bond Scott.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: My third one is not Brian Johnson covering Bond Scott.
Speaker 2: But you are still gonna hate it, okay, And everyone's
Speaker 2: gonna hate it, and I don't care because I think
Speaker 2: it's great. It's the song that shall never be covered.
Speaker 2: Shan't cover this song, young book. It's Ryan Adams doing Wonderwall.
Speaker 1: Oh all right, thoughts, I don't hate that. I don't
Speaker 1: hate that. I remember when what is that on.
Speaker 3: Love as Hell?
Speaker 1: Love as Hell? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yah yeah, part one or six? I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I remember when that came out, and I remember thinking like, really,
Speaker 1: he's doing this song, But it kind of grew on
Speaker 1: me after a while, and I think I prefer listening
Speaker 1: to that over the Oasis version. Now, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just because the Oasis version is so overplayed.
Speaker 2: It's so overplayed. And this is this to what we
Speaker 2: were talking about, is a complete interpretation. It's like it.
Speaker 2: It has very little to do with the original. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it sounds completely like him. His voice is completely his own.
Speaker 2: You know what it know what it is, man, I
Speaker 2: don't like I was thinking this is his like Gram
Speaker 2: Parsons wild Horses moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that version.
Speaker 2: Of Wild Horses.
Speaker 3: I don't what the Gram.
Speaker 1: Version Graham, Oh Graham's version. Yeah, I mean you can
Speaker 1: see why.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Stones made the right decision to put
Speaker 1: it out. Weren't they going to just give it to
Speaker 1: him at first?
Speaker 3: I don't I think so that sounds right. I like
Speaker 3: the Towns VanZant version. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I'm mixing.
Speaker 1: A bunch of up in my head right now. You're
Speaker 1: thinking of Dead Flowers, Towns.
Speaker 2: Flowers, Yes, yes, wild Horses.
Speaker 1: It's just phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, dead Flowers is the Stones version is the
Speaker 2: best version, the Town's vanz version, But this is and
Speaker 2: then the Gram version. I don't love, But this, I
Speaker 2: feel like was his gram Parsons Dead Flowers moment where
Speaker 2: he's trying to sort of like get I felt like
Speaker 2: he was trying to get close to Oasis and they're
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 3: I mean, Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, k wrong because he did that with the Strokes,
Speaker 2: I mean that was famously Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that kind of became his thing too, because then
Speaker 1: he covered a Taylor Swift record too, and not his thing,
Speaker 1: but like he's kind of become an interpreter of other.
Speaker 3: People's stuff as well, right, which.
Speaker 1: Is kind of fascinating because he's so like his identity
Speaker 1: was so wrapped up in like his own stuff, like
Speaker 1: sid you know what I mean, Like he was a
Speaker 1: a singer songwriter.
Speaker 3: I think that's still his identity. Yeah, more than the
Speaker 3: cover's guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 2: He has a whole other infamous identity now too. We're
Speaker 2: not going to go into that. So those are mine.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear yours. What do you got?
Speaker 1: All right? Movies? Cover movies? All right, let's see all right.
Speaker 1: First of all, I just rewatched this again for the
Speaker 1: second time ever. The first time I saw it was
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably six months ago, maybe about a
Speaker 1: year ago. William Freakin's Sorcerer from nineteen seventy seven. Have
Speaker 1: you seen this?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, So this has kind of been having a moment
Speaker 1: like it's it's kind of come back in the conversation.
Speaker 1: I forget if Tarantino wrote about it in his book,
Speaker 1: but there's a new like Criterion version that came out
Speaker 1: which looks incredible. This is the movie that Freakin made
Speaker 1: after he made he made the French connection. He made
Speaker 1: The Exorcist. By the way, this movie is a it's
Speaker 1: a remake of a French film from the fifties called
Speaker 1: The Wages of Fear, which is which on its own
Speaker 1: is also like a classic film. But and Freakin always
Speaker 1: bristled at calling this movie a remake. He was he
Speaker 1: thought it was like a reimagining or whatever. It's a
Speaker 1: very different movie than the other movie. But this movie
Speaker 1: bombed and I like, you know, it was the year
Speaker 1: of Star Wars and this movie is super dark. It
Speaker 1: has basically the second half of this film is these guys,
Speaker 1: all these like criminals from different parts of the world
Speaker 1: that have come to this place in South America to
Speaker 1: just kind of hide out and they've all been hired
Speaker 1: to go into the jungle get this like Dina my
Speaker 1: that's or whatever, explosives that's been sitting in the jungle
Speaker 1: for years, so it's all been like leaking all the
Speaker 1: explosive shit out of it. They got to carry it
Speaker 1: back in these in these trucks, and they have to
Speaker 1: be really careful because if they if they jostle it
Speaker 1: too much, the dynamite is going to explode and they
Speaker 1: have to bring it back to this village because there's
Speaker 1: an oil well that's burning and they need to use
Speaker 1: it to stop the oil burn. So basically the second
Speaker 1: half of this movie is just them this like nail
Speaker 1: biting trip through the jungle over this rickety bridge to
Speaker 1: transport this stuff back. Roy Scheider is in it. He's
Speaker 1: the star. It has a score by Tangerine Dream. It
Speaker 1: is so good. It's one of these movies you watch
Speaker 1: and you're like, why have people not been talking about
Speaker 1: this movie for the last fifty years?
Speaker 2: It is so good.
Speaker 1: It's as good as those other two movies I mentioned.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, you know, if The French Connection and
Speaker 1: The Exorcist are like, you know, check your head and
Speaker 1: ill communication like this is like Sorcerers, like Hello Nasty.
Speaker 1: You know, like at the time I was like I
Speaker 1: was like, uh, hell and nasty. I don't know, and
Speaker 1: then like years later you're like, shit, is Hello Nasty
Speaker 1: their best record?
Speaker 3: It might be?
Speaker 2: You know, Wow, Okay.
Speaker 1: I love this movie. Whenever you can get a chance
Speaker 1: to see this, dude, you got to see this movie.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: It's great, all right, I will thank you.
Speaker 3: Love this wrecor.
Speaker 1: Next one here. I love the Coen Brothers True Grit
Speaker 1: remake from twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Never seen that one either, damn.
Speaker 1: It's a remake of the old John Wayne movie from
Speaker 1: the sixties, starring Jeff Bridges, a very young Hailey Steinfelds
Speaker 1: in it, Matt Damon, Josh Brolin.
Speaker 2: This one is completely off my radar.
Speaker 1: You know. I feel like it doesn't get enough of
Speaker 1: love because it's a remake of an older movie, a
Speaker 1: famous older movie. But it's so good and they really tried.
Speaker 1: It's based on this incredible novel by Charles Portius. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've read this book. It's a very
Speaker 1: short book. I ranked this up there with like The
Speaker 1: Friends of Eddie Coyle, like a very short book. That's
Speaker 1: like written in such a distinct style. The book's basically
Speaker 1: written from the point of view of this young girl
Speaker 1: who's on this journey. But their movie kind of hears
Speaker 1: closer to the novel to the text than the John
Speaker 1: Wayne movie did. It's I mean, it's awesome. You know
Speaker 1: Jeff Bridges in the Cohens universe, his iconic performance, of course,
Speaker 1: is Lebowski, but he is so good as this like
Speaker 1: crotchety gunslinger, slash tracker for hire or whatever. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Cohens are just so good at this kind of
Speaker 1: thing like this, like western.
Speaker 2: Quirky, is it Like, yes.
Speaker 1: It's quirky, but it's not like it's pitched somewhere between Fargo,
Speaker 1: and it's not as dark as No Country. It's not
Speaker 1: as like unrelenting as No Country. But it's right, but
Speaker 1: it's not as like it's not as like Goofy is
Speaker 1: like Raising Arizona, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or a Brother, Yeah, cannot wait to watch it? Can
Speaker 1: I love love that movie. And then the last one
Speaker 1: I'm going to recommend here is I don't know this
Speaker 1: has ever been done before. In nineteen fifty six, Alfred
Speaker 1: Hitchcock remade his own movie. He remade The Man Who
Speaker 1: Knew Too Much, which was an old movie from the
Speaker 1: thirties that he had made back in the UK when
Speaker 1: he was making movies there. Yeah, he remade it in
Speaker 1: the fifties with Jimmy Stewart and Doris Day. This is
Speaker 1: where Kesa Rosa rack comes from, the song just a
Speaker 1: Wicked fun Hitchcock. A suspense movie.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: I love these kinds of movies where in this case
Speaker 1: it's an American you know, American family in a different country.
Speaker 1: But I love the whole like fish out of Water
Speaker 1: mystery where you were like in a different country and
Speaker 1: you don't know the customer, you don't know the language. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like some dude like dies in front of you
Speaker 1: and suddenly like you've got blowing your hands and it's
Speaker 1: like what you know? Yeah, yeah, don't you hate that idea?
Speaker 3: This happens often.
Speaker 2: That's a great one. I love it. I didn't know
Speaker 2: it was a remake when you said that, I was like,
Speaker 2: I just thought, Oh, what an egotistical, maniacal director thing
Speaker 2: to do to remake your own movie. But then I
Speaker 2: given the context, the technology had changed so much. He
Speaker 2: was probably champion at the bit to I think so
Speaker 2: like his own version of it and do it well.
Speaker 1: I think he had some quote about it where he
Speaker 1: said that the original was made by some novice and
Speaker 1: the the remake was made by like a professional who
Speaker 1: knew what he was doing, or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get that. It's it's Alfred's version instead
Speaker 2: of I'm gonna do Jake's version. I'm gonna fucking do it,
Speaker 2: Tom Petty. Episode man, another one, another one's doing any anyhow?
Speaker 2: Can I recommend something real quick?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, it has nothing to do with covers, but it's
Speaker 2: a good movie that I'm in the middle of watching.
Speaker 2: And it occurred to me that you've probably seen this.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the Drop? No, you will dig it.
Speaker 2: You will absolutely dig it. James Gandelfini and uh, who's
Speaker 2: my guy there? Plays bad Oh Hardy, Tom Hardy, Tom Hardy,
Speaker 2: want to say Tom Holland Tom Hardy to Spider Man. Yes,
Speaker 2: and his non alcoholic beer is not good. Just saying
Speaker 2: unless they want to sponsor us that I love it.
Speaker 1: All right, man, it's been fun, all right, all right
Speaker 1: to you later, all right, Hollywood Land Gang, there you go.
Speaker 1: Some music and movie Rex for your listening and view
Speaker 1: and pleasure remake Slash Remodel. As our guy Brian Ferry
Speaker 1: from Roxy Music would say, you know, it's never too late.
Speaker 1: It's never too late over here. If you want to
Speaker 1: shout out your favorite movie remake, you haven't missed the window.
Speaker 1: Windows still open, breeze is still blowing, so you know,
Speaker 1: go ahead, give me a holler. Or perhaps you'd rather
Speaker 1: get ahead of yourself here and get into next week's
Speaker 1: question of the week, which, as a reminder, is as follows.
Speaker 1: What Hollywood scandal really shocked you when it came out? Like,
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Speaker 1: Crane level shock. Right, of course, I'm asking because of
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Speaker 1: need your help deciding what we're gonna cover for our
Speaker 1: next episode at the end of July. Now, I had
Speaker 1: originally had the idea to do Spike Lee's Do the
Speaker 1: Right Thing because Do the Right Thing is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite movies set in summer with a killer soundtrack.
Speaker 1: I mean, the music is like a second character in
Speaker 1: that movie. Not to mention that the incredible Public Enemy
Speaker 1: song that anchors that movie. But as we were talking
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Speaker 1: Number one. First of all, right, now in your Hollywoodland,
Speaker 1: feed our episode on Judy Garland. Number two coming at
Speaker 1: you this Friday. We've got a new episode of the
Speaker 1: Screening Room here, and this week I'm talking all about
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen film A Star Is Born, starring Bradley Cooper,
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga, Sam Elliott, Andrew Dice Clay and more. Number three.
Speaker 1: Next week on Monday, we're bringing you our fully scripted
Speaker 1: and sound design episode on Bob Crane. Number four. Over
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Speaker 1: new episode on Sonic Youth talks all about their career,
Speaker 1: but it specifically gets into the real murders that inspired
Speaker 1: one of the greatest and coolest album covers of all time,
Speaker 1: the cover of Sonic Youth's major label debut Goo. This
Speaker 1: is a wild episode, wild sound design, and Jake and
Speaker 1: the team absolutely just killing it on this awesome recreation
Speaker 1: of a classic song. In the middle of this episode.
Speaker 1: You'll know what I mean when you hear it. Okay,
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Speaker 1: of this week's episode, Here's what America was watching in
Speaker 1: the year nineteen sixty nine, the year Judy Garland passed
Speaker 1: away at the age of forty seven. Number one Butch
Speaker 1: Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, directed by George roy Hill.
Speaker 1: Number two The Lovebug, directed by Robert Stevensons. Number three
Speaker 1: There's Midnight Cowboy. Number fives directed by John L. Schlesh
Speaker 1: directed by Number four Joshua Loman, Easy Rider six directed
Speaker 1: by Dennis Hopp. Carrol and Number five directed by Clo Dollys,
Speaker 1: directed by Jane Kelly Humber seven, Number six Bob and
Speaker 1: Carol and Ted and Alice directed by Paul Kazerski's Number seven,
Speaker 1: I hate your
Speaker 3: Wife because I find you