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Controlled Demolition? The Globalist Plan Exposed

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On todays episode I sit down with author Allen Paul Roberts and discuss his new book, The Globalist Plan To Collapse Everything. As a self admitted skeptic, Allen takes us though the story of how this book came to be and some of the most important aspect to look out for. Check out his links below.

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Welcome back to another episode of Rise to Liberty. Today,

I have a very special guest, Alan Paul Roberts, who

has h released a fantastic book from Everything I've been

able to see uh flipping through it. The book title

is the Globalist Plan to collapse everything to usher in

a new world order. In their own words, how are you?

How are you doing today?

Speaker 1: Alan?

Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Jacob, how about yourself?

Speaker 5: I'm doing quite well, very excited for this conversation. It's

a it's a very interesting book, one that I think

is very important considering everything that you discuss in the

book seems to be unfolding exactly as these these psychopaths

have said that they are going to do. So, just

real quick before we dive into the book, do you

kind of want to just give a brief introduction of

who you are and kind of how this book came

to be sure?

Speaker 4: So, I guess you could say, I'm a small business owner.

That's my job. I run a small marketing firm and

been doing that since twenty eleven. Prior to that, I

was in the corporate world, kind of came up through

the ranks. I was a VP of operations for one company,

and then VP of operations for a second manufacturing firm,

then became the head of sales in international marketing before

I went out on my own in twenty eleven. So

busy guy, no intention to write a book, but the

book happened anyway, and and I've been talking about it

whenever I get a chance ever since. You know, so,

I've been on around fifty podcast like this one, and

just trying to get the word out, trying to get

people to buy the book for the sake of spreading

the word, spreading the knowledge. I believe, you know, they

say knowledge is power. I think awareness and an awakening

is power. And we got to get the country to

a tipping point where there's enough people who are awake

and aware that they push back against the tyranny, against

the crime against you know what they're trying to do

to have society, to weaken it. The book. The book

is based on the premise that there are eleven critical

pillars of society that are being methodically torn down by

the globalists in an effort to actually bring it all down.

And so they can, you know, quote build back better

upon the ashes. So the build back better means build

it back after you tear it down, because they really

do want to establish a new world order, not just

in the US, but worldwide, in particular the Western nations.

So yeah, the book walks you through that from the

most obvious pillar, let's say, up through some that are

not so obvious. And the idea for the book came

to me in April twenty twenty four. I woke up.

Don't have to get into it here, necessarily unless you

want to. But basically I woke up and had an

almost immediate revelation of these eleven pillars under attack. It

was a startling experience, and despite the fact that I'm

as busy as I am, I actually decided to carve

out time in my life to research the evidence for

these eleven pillars that I believe I was shown and

to write about it in a way that is easy

to understand and hopefully gets people motivated to do something

about it. I like to say my goal is to

get people from a sleep to aware to know to

hell no. So it's the fastest point from a sleep

to hell no possible as what I believe. That's what

I'm trying to do because if we get if we

get that attitude and push back, I think I think

we can save the country.

Speaker 5: Right, let's see here, I'd like to bring this up

real quick. So here is your website for the book

before we get into this. It's a Global collapsebook dot com,

which is where you can find everything regarding the book.

You can actually buy the book itself. Also, there's sections

where you've been on other interviews to be able to

talk about this a little bit about yourself, by the way,

love the coffee mug. That's absolutely amazing. So it looks

like you can buy a one signed copy, hardback or

pay back, or you can buy big packs of it,

which I assume once people start really flipping through this

and seeing what it is you're talking about, they're going

to want to get this to as many people as possible.

Speaker 4: That's exactly it. Yeah, I mean it comes in sets

of three, six, twelve, and eighteen signed copies, and when

you get up into the groups of signed copies, they're

cheaper than an unsigned copy. But the point is, yeah,

there are some people who actually buy the eighteen pack.

I call that the Paul Revere pack.

Speaker 5: I like it.

Speaker 4: I have more orders for three than I do for

singles because we'll read it and a lot of them

come back and say, man, I got to spread the

word to my friends. And you know, we all have

family who just don't get it, and we, most of us,

I think, feel a sense of stress for the people

that don't get it because we see how vulnerable they are,

but they don't know it. You know, they're right whistling

in the dark, knowing, and so yeah, we have that

heart for those people, and that's why I put them

in those sets like that.

Speaker 5: Right, So you were actually a skeptic, a self described

skeptic before this, so and you kind of used the

language that you kind of like woke up to this.

What what was it where you went from skeptic to

realizing exactly what was going on?

Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a that was a long journey, the

gradual thing, and this was the gradual journey started happening

before April twenty four. But the gradual journey was knowing

that things just did not make sense with the whole

nine to eleven story. I mean, that was so obvious

to me at one point that something was really wrong

and something was being hidden there. That got my antenna up.

And then the COVID thing really really blew my mind.

So that was so obvious that we were being manipulated

and it was it was it was fear. It was

trying to use fear to manipulate and to blind and

to paralyze, you know, mentally paralyzed people. So that became

kind of obvious to me. And then and then the

wide open Southern border under Biden man, that was the

last straw, you know, that was like, okay, our country's

under attack. I don't know what all is going on,

but I know it's on purpose, because nobody could be

that stupid, Right, And I make that point in the

book when it's too stupid to be stupid, it's on purpose.

And if it's on purpose, then why and you start

going down that But the the the the amazing turning

point really came in April twenty four. That's when I

started seeing the rest of it after that.

Speaker 5: Right, And and so you you framed, if you frame

the book as in their own words, the globalist, the oligarchs,

And that's one thing that I really enjoyed as I

was flipping through the book. You basically allow them to

tell the story. You just point out here's where they

say it. Yes, yeah, Now I guess, big picture, what

is it that they're trying to say? What are they

trying to tell people? Or what is it that they

are telling people? It's just most people either don't hear

it or misunderstand what they're trying to say.

Speaker 4: Yeah, So basically their plan, if you look closely enough,

is in plane view. Is hiding in plane view. We

hear pieces of it constantly, but we don't because the

news media is controlled, is owned, and that's documented in

the book. The major news media is actually controlled by

the CIA. They've had that as a plan. The book

opens with two CIA director quotes. It's like the very

first thing on the cover when you o flip it open,

you see these two quotes. One is William Casey, will

know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American

public believes is false. And then the second is the

other CIA director, also a William William Colby. The Central

Intelligence Agency owns every one of any significance in the

major media, so they own the media. In other words,

they can frame the message and their goal is disinformation.

And we've said this forever, but part of their it

seems to be like almost their ritualistic belief, which I

believe honestly is of Satanic origin. For some reason, they

think that they have to reveal their plans at some

level in order to execute the plan. In other words,

if if they review reveal the plan and we don't

push back, then we have given them our tacit approval

to implement the plan. And so they do reveal it.

But you have to have your eyes open or it'll

go right over your head. But Yeah. Their plan is

basically to destroy Western civilization, to destroy all belief in God,

to destroy all sense of morality and innerconviction, inner strength

and strength to resist tyranny, to just absolutely crush that

and replace it with a one world government whereby everything

comes from the very top. It's dictated like the pyramid,

the picture of the pyramid. The power comes down from

the top down through their layers to the masses, and

they're in absolute control. And you know, the precursor to

some of this would be like China and North Korea,

you know, different levels of manipulation and control, different levels

of implementation of technology, especially in China to exert the control.

But that's the model for the world, and it'll get

worse than China if they have their way.

Speaker 5: The Social credit score system, which you know, to me

kind of seems like what or the the the infrastructure

that they're trying to build by pushing all of these

data centers, they're they're not data centers, they're not cloud centers,

they're surveillance centers.

Speaker 4: You know.

Speaker 5: I'm actually located in Utah, which is a famous location, yeah,

for the NSA data center and now the Stratus Data

center that's being pushed by Kevin O'Leary, which is supposed

to be the largest data center in the world, and

they frame this as you know, critical infrastructure, and I

I just agree, I don't ye right right, So you know,

I I don't believe that the the argument has been

made that we actually need any of this, but you know,

that's kind of one of their tricks. They're trying to

get all of this built before we can even ask

questions about it.

Speaker 4: So that's why to do it.

Speaker 5: When when you were waking up to this, what was

that like for you? Because, I mean, this is a

pretty shocking, you know, revelation that there are these, you know,

cartoonishly evil like oligarchs that really do want to control

the world. So what was that like for you?

Speaker 4: Well, it was it was a shocking experience waking up

to this. So here's here's what happened. It was shocking

but not scary, which is really odd. But I'll try

to describe it. So I woke up the last Saturday

in April twenty twenty four about four am. Nothing special.

I mean, I'm just I'm laying in bed for a minute.

You know how sometimes you wake up and you just

kind of pause. I woke up. I didn't have any

dream that I can recall, no nightmare, no sense of fear,

no no foreboding, no sense of anything. And then all

of a sudden, I mean like in a fraction of

a fraction of a second, it was just like wham.

It started with six pillars of society that I mentally

saw in front of me. I didn't nothing visual, I

didn't hear anything, but I just it was like I

call it an instant knowing the way there would be

an instant an instant let's say, understanding, if you walked

into a dark room and somebody turned on the lights

and there were six TV screens in front of you,

and you had the mental ability to take in all

six at once. It would be similar to that. But again,

it wasn't visual. It was like an instant knowing of

six things simultaneously. Like I can't replicate that memory in

my mind because I can't. I can't wrap my head

around six things understanding at once. But it was like

an energy that was turned on and the knowledge felt

like it was being transferred, and it was so strong,

and it lasted between half a minute and two minutes.

I don't know exactly, but it was so strong that

when it was done, I was like, WHOA, what was that,

you know, And it was four am. I keep paper

and pencil in the bathroom, you know. I wrote them

down because I figured I'm going to get back to

sleep and I want to think about it, you know,

in the morning. And I'm laying there after I wrote

them down, I'm laying back in bed thinking about them.

And then there's like the same exact experience, but three more.

It was just boom, all of a sudden, you know it,

you know, and and I remember this sense of wow.

I never thought of it like that. You know, It's

like I can see it but now, but I never

thought of it like that. Wrote them down, back to bed,

and then two more for the final two to make eleven, six,

three and two. And at that time, you know, they

say three times as a charm. At that point, you know,

rip the covers off, like what is going on? And

I wrote them down too, And you know, I do

have a daily prayer routine. So when you have that,

you when I've been doing this for twenty years, I

have a daily prayer routine to start the morning every

day with it, and so you. When you're in that habit,

you get a sense of knowing when something is kind

of from God. Now I've never had big revelations from God,

but just the sense of his presence was there, and

and so in my in my in my mind, I

didn't speak out loud. In my mind, I'm just talking

to God, saying, God, what is up?

Speaker 2: What are you?

Speaker 4: Why are you showing me this?

Speaker 3: You know?

Speaker 4: Because I'm thinking two things. Number One, it's not religious.

Well one pillar was religious, but the other eleven were

totally non religious at all. And number two, I'm nobody.

I don't have a voice, I don't have you know,

why would you why would you even show me this?

You know? And and I'm thinking thinking why why, and

not getting any sense, and then all of a sudden

it just dawns on me, like do you want me

to write a book? And if you want me to

write a book, what's the title? And it was the

same thing, bang The title was like instantly there, the

globalist plan to collapse everything, to usher in a new

world order. It was there with no time in between, it,

no space between the words. I just knew the whole

thing front to back. And because that was such an

instant answer and such a forceful answer to the question.

I figured, Okay, you want me to write a book,

I'll do it, you know, I'll research the eleven pillars.

And then a couple seconds later, like a minute later,

I get these butterflies like I don't know how to

write a book. What did I just sign up for?

You know? And how am I going to do this?

And it was like the instant thought was there, Like

just the thought was instantly there. Write it from the

heart and it'll flow, which meant like, hey, you know,

I'm a detail oriented person. I would normally map the

whole thing out before I wrote the first word. I

didn't do any of that. It was just it was

a flow, and it was, you know, three and a

half months to write three roughly three hundred ages, one

hundred and seventy five QR codes. One hundred of them

are video QR codes, so you can check what I'm saying,

prove it to yourself. About another seventy five are you know,

leading it to documents, un documents on news articles. Basically,

as I go along through the book, I prove the

point point by point, and so the reader gets a break.

You're reading, you jump, you have your cell phone, you

watch a video, you know, as much as you want

to watch. Most of them are short. There's a couple

that are documentaries. But you know, basically, you take it

at your pace and you're not you're not faced with

this wall of text like most books are. Right, so

it's got the video. You get a break for the

videos and the articles, and there's also lots of imagery

in the book to kind of break it up, you know,

just to pace it. You know, again, I've never written

a book. I don't like to read books that are

wall to wall text. Even if I have a stack

of books that I want to read and I don't

get to them because I'm just it seems like too

big of a burden. You know. When you do it

this way, it it's manageable and it's kind of enjoyable

because you're it's like you get a sense of the

revelation as you go, as you see these these creepy globalists,

you know, admitting what they're up to, and your eyes

are opened. And so you know, for people, like probably

a lot of people listening to this, they kind of

know a lot of what's in the book, but they

don't have it all pulled together into something they can

get their brain around the whole plan. So it kind

of fills in a lot of that for you. But

but it also can take somebody who doesn't believe any

of this stuff and walk them through the experience and

and get them to become a believer, so to speak,

somebody who gets it. Like I said, the shortest point

point from from a sleep to hell No. And I

had I have a friend of mine, an older woman

who who I know, you know, and and she knew

I was writing the book, and she she wanted to

read it, and she went from unaware to hell know herself,

and it was mind blowing. I mean, you know, the

late seventies, and she's making a lot of changes in

her life that totally convinced. And so you know that's

the thing. We just want people to wake up. And

that's all I'm asking for too, you know, That's why

I do this. I believe I was shown it for

a reason, not just as like some prophetic thing of

what's coming, because I don't believe that. I believe I

was shown it in order to help create the pushback.

Just be one more voice among many trying to wake

people up and get to that pushback point, because I

believe America can be saved as far down the rabbit

hole as we are, as degenerate as we've become as

a society, you know, as lazy as parts of the

society have become, as we've drifted from the work ethic

that made us a powerful country. Despite all that bad news,

I think it can be turned around. Really, in my

heart of hearts, I'm convinced of that. And when people's

eyes are open, they become motivated, they become different people,

you know, they become from from a sleep to wide awaken, energized,

and that changes everything, you know. So yeah, that's what

happened to me through this whole process, I became I

started off overwhelmed with how much evidence there was for

this thing coming down, and I kind of bummed out

about it. But about halfway through the process, I started thinking, no,

I was showing this for a reason, and this I

started to believe it could be turned around, you know.

And we're seeing this today in the UK, where people

are pushing back hard against the tyranny there, and we

don't get to see much of it on the US news.

American news, and that's on purpose. But if we if

we really look around, there's a lot going on around

the world. A lot of people are awakening and it's

being repressed. And I think too, even in our own

in the US, a lot of the true news is

being repressed. I mean, when you look at the recent

election results, just in this past week, you see how

much pushback there is, how many people are coming over

to a more conservative view of things. And so the

media is always understating the level of resistance, and so

we have to be aware of that. That and it's

to discourage us, but we need to we need to

be listening, you know, to the alternative media, is to

reliable alternative media sources to start to get the fuller picture,

because once we do, we become aware, motivated, you know,

willing to take action ourselves. So that's really critical.

Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of have the same story, you know.

I started this show out of out of COVID, you know,

I saw the blatant attacks on free speech and just

felt that even though the podcast market was flooded, you know,

it's it's oversaturated. I just figured, I mean, death by

a thousand cuts. You know, we might as well just

add another voice to it. So, you know, I projects

like this I think are vitally important, largely because, like

you pointed out, the media, the mocking bird media controls

the flow of information. And even in my opinion, and

what I've been able to gather, you know, through the

grapevine as an alternative media outlet, is that even some

of the larger alternative media outlets are even mocking bird media,

they're controlled opposition, right. And it's it's very interesting because

what I've noticed through my study of propaganda is if

things were hopeless, because I I, just like many other

people like yourself, included that it's overwhelming, it's very depressing,

and the terminology is black pilling. Although I don't I don't.

I don't like the the pill analogy. I think it's

a little bit overplayed. But if things were truly hopeless,

they're proper aganda would be pointless.

Speaker 4: Right, they wouldn't be trying so hard.

Speaker 5: Right, exactly. Yeah, So I definitely definitely appreciate projects like this,

and I'm very very glad that you decide to embrace

it the way that it seems like it needed to happen.

So with this, you list eight globalist goals which seems

to be kind of playing out and not kind of Actually,

they seem to be playing out beautifully on their end.

And let's see the list of eight globalist goals. Seem

to be a world government, end of bodily autonomy, social

credit scores, programmable digital currency, fifteen minute cities, climate lockdowns,

criminalized speech, and I would add probably thought to that

as well, yea, and also population reduction. So out of

these eight, do you believe that they're working on one

at a time or do you think it's just kind

of like they're working on all of them pretty much

all the time.

Speaker 4: I think I think they're working at all of them

concurrently and they're in different stages. When I when I

had this revelation, i'll call it the distinct impression I got.

And we're talking about the eleven pillars, but the goals

are to bring down the pillars anyway, so they're related.

But distinct impression I got was they're all being worked

on methodically, but they're at different levels of collapse of weakness.

They're being weakened at different rates, but they're working on

all of them. And that would make sense because you

would have different levels of pushback different levels of complexity

to bring these things down. So yeah, I think I

think they're all being worked on simultaneously.

Speaker 5: Now, one of my favorite things that you do is

actually bringing the videos and the documents into it, just

because they do reveal their plans blatantly if you just

pay attention, right. And one of my favorites, if you know,

if I can choose a favorite out of something so

horrific in my opinion, is uh, the you'll own nothing

and You'll be happy. Yeah, so you argue that it

isn't aspirational, but it's actually a threat. Yes, what what

led you to frame it in such a way?

Speaker 4: Yeah, So they really Number one, they really do want

us to own nothing. They want they want us all

to be poor like surfs and controllable. Right, And so

when they give you these analogies that seem overblown, they

may be overblown, Like what was the movie that was

out about I don't know, was it maybe six or

eight years ago? The Hunger Games, okay, which are overstated, okay,

and it's totally dystopic. But when you see like the

scenes of the city where the rich, the one percenters

are the one percent of one percenters, at the top

are living these lavish lives and there, you know, everybody

else is controlled and minimized and you know, placed in

a situation where they're basically fighting each other. That's a

model of really what they want. But so when they

say you'll own nothing and you'll be happy, it's my

conclusion that the way they may try to get us

to quote be happy would be basically drugged or chipped

or something that that affects our emotion, where happiness isn't

true happiness the way we think of it, but it

could be passivity and kind of acquiescence, almost like robotic,

dumbed down slave type of thing. And they call that

happy because we're not fighting each other, you know what

I mean, But we're controlled. And I think that that's

where they were going with the twenty twenty event and

things that got injected into people's bodies and nano nano

objects that are self assembling. It's all with a goal,

you know, tied in with five G and everything else

to basically energize it, control it, you know, kick it off,

whatever you might want to say. It is a plan

of controlling the human mind and the human will, right

and you know, I get it where people say, now

that's just too much, that cannot be, because that's where

I was too. I think we've all been there at

some point, even the ones who get it now, right,

But I get into this in the book, like how

could they be this evil? It was the name of

a sex and of it, Like, how could how can

they anybody be this evil? Well, I mean, you basically

have two forces in the world. It's good and evil.

It's it's God and Satan. In my view, it's basically

it's basically belief in Christ and the power that comes

through aligning yourself with him. You could say aligning yourself

with God the Father. Either way, you're aligning yourself with

God to be a force for good. And then there's

people who have chosen to align themselves with Satan actually

made that that that very aware choice, And most people

have no idea that that's even a thing. You know,

they might have seen it on some movies or you know,

some like far out stuff, but they don't understand that

it really is a thing. There really are people who

have sold their soul to Satan, who have aligned themselves

with him and all the evil that he represents. I mean,

Brice said, the meaning Satan who's referring to me, He

called him the thief comes only to steal, kill and destroy.

And the people who align themselves with that will be

doing things that steal, kill, and destroy. And that's how

they can be that evil, because they're aligned with something

that's so foreign to us, the human conscience. We have

the sense of mercy, the sense of you know, trying

to understand and empathize. They have none of that. We're

cattle to them. We're worse than cattle. You know. We

are born to be manipulated and ruled and dominated. And

I heard someone explain it this way. It was a pastor,

I think I don't remember who it was, but basically

he said, God sees you as a creation, a child

of his that he loves and wants to cherish. But

it's up to your free will to accept that. He

will not force it. But once you you to that,

you are you are drawn into a family. He sees

who as a member of his family. Satan sees who

as a trophy, like a hunter sees a rack a deer.

You know, you are a trophy to be ruled and dominated,

and you have no value. So God could create a

robot robot army. He could force us, you know, so

to speak, if he wanted to. But he doesn't want

He doesn't want the robot army. He wants willingness. He

wants true love, true surrender to him. Right, Satan is

totally happy to create a robot army of mindless people.

And that's what the new World order. I believe technology

that they're trying to enforce on us is actually trying

to do. We become robotic, we've become slaves. And I

know that's a super dark picture and probably way beyond

what most people even want to think about. But if

you think of it that way, everything going on in

the world starts making sense because it really is the

ultimate thing. There's good and evil, and it's a spiritual

power behind it all, and we as humans have to

decide which side we're going to align with. Most of

us are are clueless and we don't realize we're being

influenced both ways. We don't realize there's a decision to make,

but that is the ultimate truth. There is a decision

to make, and once we make that decision for good,

we become almost invincible, you know. Yeah, the people who

won't back down to evil, even if they're killed, even

if they're thrown in jail. You know, their their attitude

inspires other people, and so the movement lives on. And

you know, as men in particular, I think men, young men,

old men, everybody in between. I think I think God

created men to be spiritual warriors.

Speaker 3: Right.

Speaker 4: He wants to see evil totally overcome, but he wants

to do it through his servants who are willing to

cooperate with him. That's the ultimate victory. He could just

smash it all and bring everybody under compliance, but he's

not going to do it right. It's the way he operates.

You know. Free will is like the greatest gift that

we can be given. That is the ultimate prize, and

that's what we all have. And so you know, the

thing is not to abuse it, to align yourself freely,

in my opinion, with God and say, yes, I'm going

to pull everyone around me that I can in a

positive direction. I'm going to be I'm going to be

like a source of light and truth and help and

like joy and generosity, you know, all these things that

God is and wants us to be too. It's a

decision to try to be that, you know, fight all

our flaws on a daily basis, and our selfishness and

all that junk we are all dealing with, but on

a daily basis aligning ourselves with God and cooperating with

Him and being a force for good in the world.

I think it's totally possible for everybody.

Speaker 5: Right, I wholeheartedly agree. And so people that are familiar

with my channel, you you don't know this, but uh,

I was actually a practicing Satanist for about ten years.

Speaker 4: I did not have that.

Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, interesting, I'm no longer obviously, and I actually

feel as though part of what I do is uh

part of the way in which I repent to be

able to make up for a lot of the things

I did.

Speaker 2: Now.

Speaker 5: Luckily, this is something I cover on my channel quite

a bit. We uh, we were actually examining, uh re

examining the Satanic panic that there was actually something to

or for people to actually panic about. Okay, that there

actually was an organized collection of cults and Satanists that

were coming after kids. And I think that's you know,

post Epstein. We we tend to see that.

Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that was an eye opener.

Speaker 5: Right, So you know, luckily I was never I was

not so far gone into the occult that I was

ever brought into any sort of abuse situation or anything.

But so, you know, thankfully for me, that was it

was not a part of my reality. But there there

were people that I did run into in these in

these circles that most definitely had caused harm to people.

And you know that that's definitely part of what I'm

trying to do is let people know these people do exist.

And kind of to wrap that up in a nice

bow is to think that crime and for lack of

a better term, conspiracy two people conspiring, you know, something

nefarious in secret happens at a lower level, but for

some reason does not happen at the higher levels of

the billionaires.

Speaker 4: Temptation.

Speaker 5: Yeah, right, right, for some reason, it just does not

happen at that level, I think, even childish, Yeah exactly. Yeah,

they're all great, all great, you know, the people that

choose to cause war and famine, you know, just great people.

They obviously know what's best for us. But these people

definitely do exist, that the evil exists out in the world,

and you know, I came face to face with a

lot of it, and that's you know, it's truly terrifying,

but I think people like yourself, myself and many other

people were actually given a duty to try and wake

people up. Yes, and it's a very challenging I would

I actually argue it's probably a gift. But what what

kind of pushback have you received on this, Because obviously

there's anybody that's been given this gift, there's always pushback.

There's always the skeptics that even even if you try

to show them, they just for some reason reject it.

So what is the pushback been like for you?

Speaker 4: Yeah, surprisingly, not nearly what I expected it to be.

I was expecting a lot. I was expecting friends and

family to write me off if they if they have,

they're not telling me or admitting it to my face.

So I have, But I've got a lot of subtle

stuff where, you know, I have. I have a sister

in law that really loves the book and buys a

bunch of copies, and she she gave a lot of

it to, you know, relatives on her side of the family,

and and like only one of them out of ten

ever commented to me on the on it. You know,

it's like silence, which kind of tells me that they're

not on board, you know. And I've had I had

one friend when I was writing the book, when he

saw how out there I was with naming names and

and the clarity that comes across in the book that

reveals these people, that's what he thought was dangerous. I mean,

he said, I'm worried about you. I'm worried for your safety,

you know. And uh, I've had some people, you know,

like on on they'll fill out the contact form and say,

you know, you're full of whatever, go kill yourself, stuff

like that, you know what I mean, which is kind

of shocking when you hear that for the first time

that people would have that in their heart to actually

say that, you know, but not that much. Not that much.

I was expecting much worse, and I'm surprised. But but

you know, the one thing I decided early on, it

was kind of like inspired by that thought to write

it from the heart and it'll flow. I decided early

on I was going to be one transparent, you know,

like like telling in the book, I explain how this

revelation came to me. And I know that's a huge risk,

like people would get to that it's like, hey, guys, in,

not some religious freak. I'm not gonna believe it, you

know what I mean, I'm done. I knew that was

a risk, and probably some people do get to that

part and put it down. But I think that people

can see the transparency and the honesty and so they're

willing to give me more of a listen. Then if

I would have been afraid to just tell it like

it is, I'm just like all in. I'm just telling

you exactly how it is. You know, what you see

is what you get. And because I believe that the

human mind and heart can pick up on sincerity and

you just get a gut feel when you know something's real,

and so I'm just going with that, and like I'm

not looking behind me, man, I'm just all in, you know. Yeah.

So I think that's helped in terms of not as

much pushback as I expected.

Speaker 5: Well, And it kind of seems I'm not sure if

you would agree or not, but it just kind of

seems whether people know exactly what it is, everyone seems

to know that something is wrong. Yeah, they're just maybe

not quite sure what it is now, I would argue,

and I'm pretty sure that's the message coming through in

your book is that all of these things are actually

all part of this same thing that's wrong. So all

of the cultural degeneracy and breakdown of American culture is

part of the same thing as what seems to be

uh a planned financial collapse. It's all part.

Speaker 4: Of the same oh interconnected? Correct? Yeah.

Speaker 5: So here we are on the on this side of it,

and we we see what is what is happening? Uh,

Like you said, everything seems to be at a various

stage of decay and collapse. What can we do?

Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think there's there's things we can do.

I mean, I think I think the most important thing

we can all do is is get the word out

and and and make a choice, make a choice of

like I was saying, are we going to be on

the side of good or not? Are we are we

going to be all in for this or not?

Speaker 2: Right?

Speaker 4: And I think that that's absolutely essential because then you

get the courage and the backbone and just the desire

to spread the truth and that that that is the

number one thing. Now in the back the back section

of the book, there is like a preparation segment that

that that talks about a couple of different ways. One

is what I call mental resilience. Uh, and that is basically,

you want to remove the ability to be shocked by

things you want to you want you want to remove

the ability for fear to dominate you. So one of

the things I go through is, look, these are all

the things they've done. These are the logical next steps

they might try to execute, and so that if it happens,

you're not surprised. You've already kind of had a way

to think through some of that. So you're the shock

value isn't there, the manipulation value, the fear isn't there.

You're able to face it more rationally. So that's one

way we can prepare is to be mental resilient. And

I talk about you know, spiritual strength as well, and

we've I've mentioned some of those things, but basically aligning

yourself with good, you know, gaining a backbone, having that

that that more than mental resilience, it's spiritual resilience, and

that that is that is vital because I believe when

we align ourselves with God, then the God factor comes

in and that is prayer. And even for some people fasting,

you know, I haven't really done that, but a lot

of people will pray and fast, like asking God to

save the nation, getting on your knees every night, asking

God to save the nation, asking him the goide our leaders,

asking him to root out the corruption. And that's like

a daily prayer for me. Root out the corruption, save

this nation, have mercy on us, you know. And I

think as people do that, God does act. I mean,

the United States has looked like it was on the

edge for a long time. I mean, love him or

hate them, A lot of Trump's policies honestly have saved

this nation from going down the path that Europe has

been on the fast path toward tyranny. I mean, not

that we're not fighting with some of the same things

they are, but they are on the fast path because

they have nobody like Trump who will push back on

anything that really matters much. It's like the grassroots who

are pushing back, but they don't really have a political

champion who's saying no, I won't do that, who's saying

I want to bring manufacturing back. I want to go

against the whole globalist plan of the de industrialization of

the West. I want to bring it back, you know.

I want to bring back jobs and so many of

the things. If you think about the attack on the

family and all this stuff. Am I a boy or

a girl? The men and women's sports like all that

kind of rot. Really, there's been a lot of pushback

against that, and I mean Trump doesn't do it gracefully,

but at least he does it, you know, at least

he has a backbone. And I'm not saying I agree

with all the policies, but I don't know anybody in

my lifetime politically it has had one tenth of the

courage that he shows on a regular basis. And that's

what we need. We need men, especially, but men and

women to get the courage and to draw the line

and to say no, I'm not letting that happen in

my family. I'm not letting that happen on my school board,

I'm not letting that happen in my group of friends.

I'm going to speak up whatever it is. You know,

we can't do much, we're just one person. But if

we all start doing something, you know, it builds momentum.

But I think that's really the most important thing to do.

And like I said, in the back of the book,

there's a preparation section. There's a bunch of QR codes

where if you want to get you know, backup food

and storable energy, and just like all kinds of things,

there's two R codes you can just get it all done.

None of them are affiliate lengths, So I mean that's

something you can do too. But I think the other

things we talked about are far more important than that.

Speaker 5: So one one thing I definitely like to talk about

on my channel is this fight has been brought into

our homes and that's that's the front lines of this

of this battle of this war is in our homes. Uh,

you know, trading, trading the poison, the poison chemicals used

to clean, the poisoned water, the poisoned air, everything, poisoned food.

You know, it seems like a multi prong attack. And

but the but the front lines of this really is

in the home. And uh when when they bring the

fight to us like that, that's where every individual person

can actually fight back, is is right there. And I

think one overlooked aspect of this, which is also another

thing we we tried to focus on on this channel,

is uh uh the attack on the mind and the

mind control that's coming through the mainstream press. And even

that the mainstream alternative. Now there there were four specific

media manipulation tactics that you laid out. Would you like

to bring these up? Go through them, Let let people

know ways in which they are attacked, these tactics that

you've been able to identify and lay out for people.

Speaker 4: Sure, let me just let me scroll up to that

point in the book here. Yeah, media manipulation and the

symbol of that with the bull with the pile behind

the ball is on the mug you were you were

talking about, and so the mug has like the mainstream

media with the bull and the thing behind the ball

on the ground, and the other side has like the

Superman alternative media, meaning you know, trying to trying to

save the country. Certain aspects of it are. Yeah, so

we look at these different ways they manipulate us. You know,

one of the big ways is the press itself. And

I call them these BS detector tips in the book.

So how to recognize when you're being played, you know,

by the media or or you know their minions. Let's say.

So one of the things is to really pay attention

to who is demonized. And the idea is that you

know their enemy, the ones they're trying to demonize may

actually be your friend, and actually a really good chance

that they are your friends. So when the mainstream media

is just hammering on somebody NonStop with without mercy, as

they did with Trump, you know, that's often a signal

that they are trying to destroy someone who they don't

agree with. And you notice how they never do that

to their own until until it's so bad that they

almost have no choice, Like Biden. They finally piled in on,

piled on on Biden after that disastrous, uh you know,

debate with Trump where it was so embarrassingly bad that

they had and then they all did it together. They

were all of one accord, so they got They also

obviously got the word, you know, you got to give

up on this guy. So what you they demons Number

two is be highly suspicious whenever they pile on and

repeat the same narrative and that we've all probably seen

those things. But there is a video in the book

where they just keep repeating the same narrative, they use

the same words and and and they do that because

the media is controlled from the top. It is truly,

you know, an operation where it is a totally top

down news feed. They're reading the same teleprompter. Uh, they

might have a couple of variations, but they're pretty much

all saying the same thing. So yeah, what what when

they when they pile on and repeat the same narrative,

that's obviously a ploy to manipulate you. And then things

like their use of buzzwords to demonize others and we've

we've all heard them, but they like they love to

use them, like words like racist, insurrectionists, homophobe, islamophobe, xenophobe,

anti Semitic, conspiracy theorist, that's a big one, extreme right wing,

that's a big one, white nationalist, climate denier, election denier,

toxic masculinity, Like they love to throw those words around

the try to frame someone and to get you to

shut down, to not to not listen to somebody, as

they're basically name calling. And my favorite is really being

careful whenever they push ideas that are like patently false

or absurd, but they say with a straight face, like

you know, men can have babies. You've seen people in

Congress almost saying these kinds of things, and you just

want to slap them. Men can have babies. A man

who identifies as a woman be able to compete in

women's sports. You know, the twenty twenty election was the

most secure in history. I mean when you know there

were ballot boxes that were being stuffed and mail in

ballots and corruption that was worse than ever, and they

say it was the most secure in history. I mean

it's it's insulting and and just we have to wake

up and see it for what it is and realize

we're being manipulated and we just have to have our

eyes open. Once your eyes are open, you start seeing

it everywhere, as I'm sure you know.

Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it is very interesting. I my

favorite are the buzzwords. Obviously, conspiracy theorists is a is

a big one here. Uh sure, I find it interesting

because conspiracy is actually the number one federal crime that

anyone gets charged.

Speaker 4: With, yeah, racketeering and all that. Yeah.

Speaker 5: Right, So it's and you know, when when you look

at the definition of two or more people planning something

nefarious in secret, I mean that's basically all crime.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 5: So, and then a conspiracy theorist is basically what a

prosecutor does is being able to take bits of information

of a conspiracy and theorize exactly what happened.

Speaker 4: So I mean, you take down the mafia, right, how

you take down these organizations that are conspiring to steal

and manipulate and you know whatever. Yeah right.

Speaker 5: And you know, just as I pointed out before, it's

very interesting the idea that crime happens on you know,

our level, you know, on on the little peon level.

But for some reason you get up into I have

refused to keep calling them elites. I do not believe

that that's an appropriate title. I believe all of ARC

is a more appropriate idol. Or you know, the controllers,

the puppet master, I mean, there's anything that we can

call them. They are not elite. They are and and

so I just find this kind of interesting. But this

is why I believe that the mind control, the language control,

specifically which happens through the media. Manipulation is one of

the most important aspects, because this is how they keep

everyone asleep, right, and these these buzzwords are definitely a

great indication of that.

Speaker 4: And you know, it's also it's not just the media,

but it's how they have a lock on the colleges.

These a lot of these kids coming out of college

are all hearing versions of the same narrative. And you know,

it's very extreme left wing and you could say communists

a lot of it, right yeah, anarchists, these kids coming out,

it's just unbelievable what so many of them are are

exposed to. Right and you know, these super left wing

college professors seem like they have a lock on most

of the education unfortunately.

Speaker 3: Right.

Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been several polls come out talk about the

political positions of most college professors, and it's you know,

I remember when the left actually still loved America at

one point. You know, they they might be on the left,

the left side, but they still were trying to do

what was best for the country, you know, at.

Speaker 4: Least outwardly, right, right, Yeah, theoretically, at least Now that

those you know, you look at their platforms and they're

so everything, everything that would harm America is what they're for.

I mean, you look at you look at these blue cities.

I mean, you look at Gavin Newsom and what he's

done to the state of California, how he's runned into

the ground, I mean, the insult to the intelligence. When

he can clean that up so that Emperor gi from

China can come to California and be impressed with the

clean streets, and he even admits it that he's cleaning

it up for him, and then as soon as he leaves,

everybody's back on the street, tent cities, needles everywhere. So

the insult is that he knows how to clean it up, right,

and he'll do it for a communist dictator, but he

won't do it for his own citizens.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 5: Yeah. I definitely don't let the right wing slide either,

because in my state of Utah, we allegedly have a

Republican governor and he's making the same decisions.

Speaker 4: To control position right.

Speaker 5: Right right, And you know, I believe this is one

of the control mechanisms that the left versus right. Yes,

that's been used for a very long time, and I

think this is more apparent now, especially post COVID and

most recently because of the whole massive backle I believe

this is this is more apparent than it ever has

been before. Yeah, And it seems as though that you

can buy an election.

Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think you always could, It just wasn't

so obvious to us, you know.

Speaker 5: Right right. And I don't think that they're I don't

believe that they're hiding it anymore. Uh, much like a

lot of these, uh, these other issues, uh, you know,

the the elections, George Soros and the open, open society,

the surveillance state and the privacy with I mean, we've

got flocked cameras everywhere now out out of all of

these issues, you know, the banking finance and the cv

d c s, you know, the the medical system. What

what out of all of these issues that we're facing,

what what do you believe just personally that's should be

looked at immediately? That is probably of the utmost pressing matter.

Speaker 4: Yeah, I think two things, Probably my number one thing

at this point in time would be the whole privacy,

the loss of privacy and the invasion of all of

the surveillance gear. And the surveillance state is you refer

to it earlier, but the surveillance state is gearing up

to levels that are truly frightening. You know, we came

out of we came out of COVID and at least

where I live and other people when I've been on

podcasts that echoed the same opinion. We came out of that,

and all of a sudden, there were cameras on every corner.

There were five g towers that were not there prior

to the lockdown, so they used that time to build

out their surveillance infrastructure and they've been going add it

hard ever since, you know, the whole AI revolution. I mean,

I personally think there's a lot of good things you

can do with a eye tools and I use them

myself to help, you know, research, and you know, you've

got to keep it on a short leash because you

know they've built in biases. But if you know how

to direct it, you can. You can summarize a lot

of information quickly, you can perform tasks faster, you can

be more productive in your work, you can help your

customers because of that. So there's there's good to it.

But the surveillance aspect of it is very concerning, and

you know, it's going into areas that people walk into

blindly because they don't think about how how the surveillance

technology could be manipulated and integrated. I'll just give you

an example. Somebody pointed out to me recently that, Okay,

you know you have your smart TV that is supposedly

in some cases watching your reaction to the commercials and shows. Right,

it's observing, and you know we have cameras our cars

have cameras. The new cars have cameras internally also observing, right,

and so this technology is everywhere. But somebody brought up

to me that now, with the like things like an

Apple Watch, where it's tied into your biology more, where

it's knowing your heartbeat, heart rate, and different things about you,

they could theoretically tie that into understanding your reactions to things.

What gets your heart increasing, you know, what's your physical

response to certain stimuli. I'm not saying I know for

sure that they are connecting that, but the temptation would

certainly be there, and they tend to do things without

telling us. We find out later. We find out later

that our cell phones have been tracking us even when

they're turned off, Even when we set all the settings

to do not track me, all that does is turn

off the commercial trackers. The operating system still tracks you relentlessly.

And it's like we found this out by accident. They

didn't tell us that up front, right, And so it

would not surprise me in the least if things like

the Apple Watch and similar tech was that information was

being sold and that dots are connected, I'm not as

concerned if it's sold for commercial purposes like I can

live with that because that's not evil intent. That's just

wanting to sell you, understand you so they can sell

you harder. But when it crosses the line too, Yeah,

we want to control, we want to observe, we want

to store so that we can come back later and

sue you for something and trap you and prison you.

That's actually possible with you know, it depends who's the helm,

but the ability to gather information and frame people and

make their life, you know, hell on Earth, it is

certainly a possibility. And so you know, the constitution is

we have the right to being free from unreasonable search

and seizure. Yet the technology is reading our emails anybody

that's Gmail or Microsoft Office if you leave it at

the defaults, I mean, it's scooping up everything on you.

A lot of the online tools we use, even Zoom

and things like that, you know, that's recording everything. It's

just everywhere. And I think there have to be laws

written and actually enacted and enforced that will punish people

who abuse. Yeah, that are not giving people their privacy basically,

But that's my biggest concern. Number two would be the

whole financial system. I think it could come down anytime

the bankers wanted to, right, So that would be number.

Speaker 5: Two, right, I agree. Regarding the right to privacy, which

it kind of seems like they are trying to demonize privacy. Yeah,

the whole are argument of well, if you're doing nothing wrong,

you have nothing to hide, and it's which is a

terrible argument. It's it's a very fallacious argument.

Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the whole Trump administration, it turned out, was

doing nothing wrong, but they were accused of colluding with Russia,

and they used that excuse of the suspicion of foreign

influence to then surveil everybody on the whole team, right,

And they did that, so they use it as an excuse,

They make up a story, use that as an excuse

to surveil the heck out of you, right, and then

and then keep keep re upping on the FISA, renewing

the FISA thing, which Komi did and other people did

in government, kept renewing that right to surveil, surveil, surveil.

So yeah, you could be doing nothing wrong, but they

just want to surveil and manipulate and basically frame you,

you know, and imprison you. So yeah, we can't count

on I'm doing nothing wrong, because you know, they can

make up something on you and uh, you know, right

get you.

Speaker 5: And I think we see that popping up more and

more regarding you know, the flock security camera systems, which

is all tied into Palanteer, which is absolutely terrifying, the

the amount of false positives that we get from AI.

And yet we are increasingly dependent upon AI to run

our civilization, which seems like a massive mistake that it

is nowhere near ready to be implemented to the degree

in which we have implemented it. And I think certain

things like the Twitter files revealing, uh, you know, the

documented conclude collusion between you know, the FBI and social

media platforms. I mean, there there's very clearly connections between

these massive corporations, you know, Amazon, Google. It's almost to

the point where a line has been or the line

between corporation and government has almost disappeared.

Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's how they get around that's how they

get around the constitution. They basically get these large corporations

to do their surveiling and the things that are illegal

under the constitution. And they pretend, you know, especially under

the Biden administration, you know, they were pretending like they

weren't colluding, but they really were. So, yeah, the big

corporations become their tool to execute their illegal plans by

manipulating the corporations, you know, threats of government lawsuits and

everything else that goes with that. I mean, that's a

very powerful thing. When the Department of Justice starts knocking

on your door, so to speak, and threatening you with

prison or you know, being exposed or something, that's a

pretty powerful tool.

Speaker 5: You know, right, right, And I would also agree at

this point, it seems as though, I mean they fully admitted,

they meaning the oligarchs, have admitted to a purposeful destruction

of the US dollar in order to introduce a central

banking digital currency. They're going to make things so difficult

on people that they will willingly take a FED coin,

if you will. A universal basic income will be introduced,

and you'll get plenty of money to survive. But that's

where the mark of the Beast would come in. Is

you've got to sign over your soul.

Speaker 4: Yeah essentially, yeah, yeah, And so I don't think all

the any of these things are inevitable. I know, I

know the Bible predicts things, but I don't think they're inevitable.

In the short run. I think ultimately my belief is

everything that's in the Bible will have eventually come to pass.

But we have to get out of the trap of

thinking that just because things are in some ways on

this downward arc, that it's coming soon in the next ten,

twenty years, whatever, thirty years even I don't think that

has to be the case. And I've talked about this

on other podcasts, but you know, I think the Old

Testament story of Jonah in Nineva is a perfect example

of where God sends Jonah to Nineva, a huge city

like the New York City of its time, to warn

the people that his judgment is about to fall, and

to basically warn them to repent. And we know the story,

Jonah runs away. Eventually he finally cooperates and he goes

into the city saying forty days in Nineva's going to fall.

And it turns out that the people repent from the

king on down and God spares the city. And I

read that historically that city lasted another seventy years before

it was destroyed. So we can push things way out

there by by taking a stand, you know, turning to

good so to speak. I think there can be a

I think there can be a spiritual revival in this country.

I think there can be an economic revival. I think

there can be all kinds of good things happening. If

people just stand up and agree to push it in

the right direction, it really is possible. I think one

of the great great psyops that that you know, the

globalists try to push on us is to get us

to conclude that we're already defeated, because then we give

up and we're not defeated. That's my opinion.

Speaker 5: I would have to agree one. I mean, I think

pieces are projects like your book are very great indicators

of that. I mean, if if we were already defeated,

your book would be meaningless, right, And I completely disagree

that it is meaningless because we still have so far

to go. And like, like I had mentioned earlier, if

if we were already defeated, their propaganda would be pointless. There,

there would be no reason to propagandize us at this

point because they already have the control.

Speaker 4: And they're working hard. They're they're really pushing hard.

Speaker 5: So right, and I I think that they they overplayed

their hand with COVID, and I think that that's what

they're going to do with a lot of this stuff again,

is they're they're trying to get it hurry and get

it through, but by doing that it backfires almost every time.

Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I think the Epstein Files, even

though we didn't get everything, I think we got enough

that it really it exposed a lot of them for

who they are. Things we thought were impossible are not

only possible, but pretty widely adopted by those in power,

you know that I want to call them the oligarchs

or whatever you want to call them. So many or corrupt.

So nothing that was revealed in the Epstein Files surprised me.

But what did surprise me is the scale of how

many people, you know, how pervasive this is when you're

in any kind of position of power, you know, and

in Europe a lot of people were resigning from office

and being exposed, being humiliated, and they actually took action.

Here in the US, it seems like, you know, we

got people who are locked into two four or six

year political terms depending on what position they hold, and

they just ride it out. You know, nobody seems to

push very hard to get them out of power. The

d OJ just comes up with, it comes up against

even the good that's happening within the DJ at certain levels.

It just comes up against so much pushback from corrupt

federal judges. You know, every good move gets blocked, it

seems like, and then it goes to the Supreme Court

or wherever it goes, and sometimes it survives, but it's

slowed down. It's just you're admired and all this corrupt resistance,

you know. And I think actually the judicial system is

one of the things that frustrates me the most because

so many judges are obviously sold, sold out, corrupt now

being paid off. You know. You look at Boseburg. That

guy's like such a disaster for any any true justice.

I mean, how how he hasn't been impeached yet, I

don't know, you know, I mean it's so obvious that

he's corrupt, and there's others like him, but he's the

most glaring example I can.

Speaker 5: Think of, right, And I mean this goes all the

way down to uh, you know, the local level, where

we have all sorts of activist judges releasing people early

that have no business being out on the streets, or

right doing the cash bail thing. I mean, there's so

many issues with with the justice system, which is why

when anyone points to the justice system to say, oh,

look there were no convictions on this, so that means,

you know, everything's honky dory, and it's just like that's

not a good argument, you.

Speaker 4: Know, yeah, right, yeah, it's there's no crime if no

crime is punished, right right.

Speaker 5: Right, yeah, such a terrible, terrible argument. But I think

we'll wrap up here. I don't want to keep you

too long. You've been very gracious with your time. But

but on that note, any any final words, well.

Speaker 4: I would say, help me spread the word. Go to

Global collapsebook dot com. Take a look at the book again.

You can get signed copies for roughly the price of

an unsigned copy on Amazon. If you buy it in sets,

it's even cheaper than the Amazon unsigned price. Spread the word.

Read the book. I mean, if you do get the book,

I would say, read it the day it lands in

your in your mailbox. It's an easy read. I think

once you read it, you'll be inspired to spread the word,

and you know you can. You can find me on

my podcast on Rumble Forward Slash the Globalist Plan. You

can see some of my videos there. On the website,

there's interviews I've had with other people that you can watch.

You can link to from the website Global collapsebook dot com.

So give it a chance. Go there, get involved, help

me spread the word. You know, I'm not doing this

for money. I'm so far in the red on this

whole operation. But I'm doing it, you know, as a service,

because I believe, I believe I was given this revelation

to help improve society, to get open people's eyes and

help them, you know, kind of have a way to

fight back and live a better life, you know, eyes

wide open, you know. So yeah, take take a look.

Go to the website and see what you think. That'd

be great.

Speaker 5: So all of those links will be uh down in

the episode description, so make sure and check that out.

We'd definitely like to get you back at a certain point,

uh kind of uh get get a more in depth

look at, uh maybe some some of the specifics uh

with within this. So if if anybody has any questions

regarding these topics, leave them down in the uh the

comment section below, and uh I'll collect those up and

uh we'll we'll get uh Alan Paul Roberts back to

be able to look at some of these questions and

we'll we'll dive into uh some of these pillars, uh specifically,

and uh kind of tear them apart a little bit,

maybe show some some videos alongside and everything. So on

that note, I would like to thank all of you

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and I believe that's pretty much it. Once again. The

website is Global collapsebook dot com. And also I wanted

to mention if you go to Global Collapsebook dot com

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read for free, so if you're not already convinced, head

on over there and go read the first chapter. So

this is a vitally important book and I'm very excited

to be able to have another conversation with you again.

And I believe that's it. So if you want to

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