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Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to

the Game Mesticides podcast. This is the podcast where we

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With me is Mike Manati. In today's episode, Heya closes

that deal, Andrew Wilson gets thirty eight million after firing

people for helping him get thirty eight.

Speaker 2: Million, and the hat returns. But first, Mike, how are

you doing? It's just hello, Groggy, still just I need

the weekend. I need the weekend. You're almost thereist get

the yep, yep, we got one more work day. I'll

take it, have an easy weekend and then get back

to h feeling normal. I mean the probably is I'm

tired and then you to sleep. But I can also

tell I think I desperately need some more activity in

my life as well. So yeah, just try to try

to move some things around. Gotta wake up, get up,

get out there and all that.

Speaker 1: Yeah, get outside. I am feeling the same way Mike,

for sure. So gonna spend this week in Price still

trying to finish that launder room renovation. Which has been

a long and arduous process, mostly because I'm busy and

it's hard to make time for it.

Speaker 2: But uh, I gotta take the keets to the park

or something that might be fun.

Speaker 1: No, yeah, it's it's we have We're having okay weather

right now, so it's probably probably worth going out there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a room for you. But podcast producers

are at five dollars tier and above. All Right, with

all that out of the way, I got some big

topics for this week, Mike. Let's take a break and

get right into those. Okay, all right, Mike, A couple

of eight things here. Electronic Arts is set to close

that fifty five billion dollar deal that will take it

private under the ownership of Saudi Arabia. Basically, it will

be part of the public investment fund. Jared Kushner's involved

it's just a who's who of all the stars are here. Really,

so yeah, we've talked about this before. This is happening

right as you know. We can just just wrap in

this other story. EA laid off a bunch of Battlefield

six stvs. But Battlefield six, you might have heard, recently

hit all of its markers to ensure that. Andrew Wilson,

who is the CEO of EA, got an eight million

or eight million dollars excuse me, bonus on top of

his thirty million dollar pay, so he made thirty eight

million dollars this year because of the people that made

Battlefield six, many of whom no longer work at EA.

Things are already kind of lean at EA, right, They

were already in a situation where they were making a

lot of money from a handful of things, and one

of their ways of like stretching that as far as

possible to ensure that they were growing was to lay

people off. This company. When this deal goes through, Mike

to Saudi Arabia is going to be saddled with twenty

billion dollars in debt. It will be the largest leveraged

buyout in the history of the world, which I could

be wrong. But I keep reading that, so I bet

that's right, and it's going to have to pay those

debt payments and then pay the people that make the games.

That seems like it's a recipe for fucky luckiness and

a lot a lot more pain for this company. So

the deal my close, and the big people who are

getting big, big paychecks already might get their big pay day.

I guess they're able to sell their stock to Saudi

Arabia at a premium price, and everyone else is just

gonna hit a wall here.

Speaker 2: It feels like, Mike, what do you feel? Yeah, I

mean don't feel great about it. You know, all that debt,

the size of this company. It's why when people are,

you know, like who can buy so and so and

one of maybe only two answers ever is Saudi Arabia. Yeah,

they could just dive in there and kind of eat

up that cost. They can maybe not worry about making

a profit because they have this other motive of kind

of cleaning up their image and diversifying things like that.

But boy, the trend of firing people from studios even

when the game's a hit, it reminds me of the

black Flag recink thing where they fired people before that

game came out and like, well, oops, that game sold

like five times faster than we were expecting. I'm like cool, great,

because then we didn't make any rash decisions, right, Like,

obviously we need to make more assizes his Creed remakes.

Obviously we're going to be making more battle fields or

a battle front even I just don't understand why, like

even the most obvious people we need to hang on to,

we just can't. It's like at this point, the cruelty

is ingrained into the culture. I don't think having Saudi

Arabia as your new owner is going to do anything

to fix that.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the things that we know they're not

going to get rid of are the money printing machines

at you know, under FIFA and Madden and stuff like that.

If anything, they will amplify those, so great a great deal.

Speaker 3: The gambling games.

Speaker 2: They're gonna get the gambling games because right, yeah, they're

still not allowed in Belgium, right because it's illegal there.

Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is uh, you know, they have they

have rules all around the world. I was listening to

Chris Kohler, who's not that Chris Coler. There's a video

game Chris Coler. There's also a financial guy called Chris Cohler.

Speaker 2: It kind of does funny. Yeah, they're multiplying. There's now great.

Now there's Tobody do something. Yeah, he just did an

episode about video games and it's very like for his audience,

so it's service level, but it's funny the things.

Speaker 1: That like they go through on that where it's like, yeah,

these loot boxes they are gambling. And then Star Wars

Battlefront two happened and that was a huge thing, and

then they talk about FIFA Ultimate Team and this guy's

just like, Yeah, when you described this to me, I

really hate this. I really hate these things that you're

describing that are obstantively for all audiences but also children

that are just just gambling. That stuff will like not

go away, and it's gonna get worse. The things that

are like probably not gonna return. It's like, oh, yeah,

what's gonna happen to buy away? Well, look at this

mass efect game out and then good luck the team

that did make a dead space right.

Speaker 4: You know.

Speaker 1: One thing we don't have here is Konami's stock price

went up like twenty percent in like the last day.

Mic and it's because they reported really good earnings on

making video games.

Speaker 2: Because all of this shit is selling, they're doing it

very very well.

Speaker 1: And one thing they said is we wanted to make

sure people knew we were serious about Silent Hill. So

that's why we immediately started making a ton of Silent

Hill games, and we made sure that they were good

for the most part. And now people do buy into that.

Imagine how EA approached Dead Space that way instead of

just like farting out, like they didn't fart out. They

did a really good job with that Dead Space remake. Yeah,

and then what was the plan after that?

Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. That would then immediately make a

zillion dollars right, like, no care interest in investing in

the brand again, a bet to set out the one

see if it's a giant, massive hit. But what seemed

like not a ton of advertising or excitement or enthusiasm

on their part for launching it. And it was fantastic,

I mean, you know, Resident Evil, Yeah that happened. You know,

that was a hit right away, and then a couple

kept up with that. A lot of franchises like a

Pickman for a Nintendo. Maybe they're hit somewhere you keep

up with something eventually that is going to bear fruit

if you keep the quality up, like that team obviously

could have done with a dead Space. You want to

know what games EA has released this year that just

just have become so no idea uninteresting. They've released two

video games this year so far, EA Sports UFC six

and EA Sports College Football twenty seven. They have two

more release dates, mannon at a Fel twenty seven at

Star Wars zero Company Babe the only interesting game on

this list. They also released an expansion back for the

SIMS for a game that came out in fucking twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1: Yep, so they have right, So they're already operating in

this way where it just looks kind of grim and

like to your point about like not sticking with dead

Space or not like sticking with something that didn't immediately.

Speaker 2: Set the world on fire.

Speaker 1: It did, all right, but it's I think that's like, again,

this is an EA problem because Konami seemed to know

right away that they needed to prove to fans that

they were serious about Silent Hill, and that they said

that out loud this week. That's why we did so much.

That's why we made all these games. We had three

games being made at the same time because we wanted to.

They understand that people are not just investing their dollars.

It's not just a simple transaction. They are investing emotionally

in these franchises. And that requires believing that if I

play a game now, I'm going to get another game

in the future that is in this lineage, and and

like all the stuff I've invested in learning about this

lure is going to pay off in the future.

Speaker 2: That stuff super matters. And EA just is an aware

doesn't care. And so this this bad version of EA,

which has been this.

Speaker 1: Way for a very long time, as Marino pointed out,

one worst company in the United States fifteen years ago twice.

Speaker 3: That's fits in your version in some ways, it looks

kind of better at.

Speaker 2: What we got now exactly.

Speaker 1: And then they have to service a twenty billion dollar

debt while having Saudi Arabian ownership.

Speaker 2: It's just going to get worse, right, So yeah, yeah, exactly.

Everyone says so many more cards the Ultimate Team. You know,

they did that thing where wait, like like what one

of the games like had uh was this time it

too k where they try to sneak in like more

than monization, it's most that didn't have before, and like, oh,

we'll back out. I the man don't care about backing

out if there such thing happens. Yep, exactly.

Speaker 1: So yeah, this will close probably here pretty soon, and

then it'll take a while for that to really manifest

into changes at the company. But it's it's gonna go through.

They're not gonna be able to stop it in Europe,

it seems like, and they certainly were not going to

stop Jared Kutschinger and his friends.

Speaker 2: Here in the United States. So right, all right, yeah,

go ahead, Christian please, Oh.

Speaker 3: You're voting a little bit for me. I'm gonna switch

the server real quick.

Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything on my end, no, but yeah, yeah,

you get switching server real quick, and I'll vamp because

people will still not break up, or they won't break

up for me and them, so I could just keep talking.

Speaker 5: I think you just did already, right, So next, sorry

about they reveal if I f C twenty seven and

that games a one hundred and fifty dollars version.

Speaker 2: By the way, like the.

Speaker 3: In God for what I heard is like the thing

that most people it's gonna buy because he gives them

all the like like all the seasons of their fucking

like gambling thing is.

Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not gonna make new exciting things, of course,

not like maybe everyone's in a blue moon. And even

then the new exciting thing, the thing that stands on

was as interesting as a fucking license game, the Star

Wars game. It's just gonna be how we're gonna make

even more money off of Madden College Football, UC all

the other sports ship, which of course that makes money,

but my god, it's deeply uninteresting and it's gonna be

it's it can't lead anywhere very exciting or interesting or

probably lucrative in the long run. Yeah, there was like a.

Speaker 1: Pretty like they've already sort of lost their luster for

EA College Football. Remember when that came back two years

ago and it was the biggest shit in the world.

It was the best selling game. It just crushed. It

was culturally important and people who didn't normally stream video

games were showing up to stream that and getting massive audiences.

And yeah, this this version launched and uh there were

hidden micro transactions uh that were like that would like

basically affect how fast you could progress, and it was

hard to like find these things, but they were hidden

in there and then they like basically got sprung on

people after the game was out and reviewed, and it

really has soured that audience on that game already, which

again everyone knew that was coming.

Speaker 2: Everyone knew that's how these things go. It's just so

funny to see it illustrated so quickly between a couple

of versions of the same game.

Speaker 3: Uh, double fine, speaking of like people getting fired and

stuff from the shop people make a game. Did like

a little update on the Rockstar anti union.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see this video and it's really good.

Speaker 3: I highly recommend people see it. It's more like it's

like a little up it, but it has a story

about a guy that lived there from Australia, moved to

Scotland to work in Rockstar and he got fire do

this like antie union thing, and he had to move

back to Australia because he had like the visa stuff

and he had two dogs and Australia is very strict

with that and it's breaks my It broke my heart

when I saw it because he had to like wait

like eight months to be reunited with his with his

family because like you know, so it is stuff Okay, Yeah,

I recommend people to see that that video.

Speaker 2: People make Games has been crushing it with that.

Speaker 1: Again, kind of serendipitous, like he was in bed with

these people before this happened, and then he and then

rock Star did it. I wonder if Rockstar had any

idea he was there talking to these people already. Probably

not a pretty dip shit move on their part, because

he is going to get to the bottom of it.

One other thing I've been hearing good things about and

I'm kind of asking you, Christian, if you have the

sentiment is true about E football with the micro transactions removed,

moved on switch. Is that the first time that that

has happened, Like they basically put out this like complete

version of the game.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I want to check this too, And

I've seen people being happy about it, and I haven't.

I haven't played a soccer gaming like literally like ten years.

To be honest. I used to buy it every year.

I used to be those guys that will buy it

every year, and one year I was like, this is enough, stop,

I don't need this.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah I heard it. It's pretty good, So

I don't know.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, I mean for people that don't know.

E Football is the successor to Pro Evolution Soccer, which

was the successor to Winning eleven, which was the successor

to International Superstar Soccer. I believe that's the full lineage,

all right.

Speaker 1: Double Find laid off twenty three staff after going independent,

and you know, I get this even like a kind

of a small qualm where it's like, should we really

be framing it this way? The framing should be. However,

many people are still there. Those jobs were saved by

Double will Find. These jobs had already.

Speaker 2: Been lost when Microsoft cut them loose and was like

go go be on your own, right. I mean, it's

just the reality of yeah, you know, it wasn't a

good guy Microsoft move. Of course when they you know,

set those people free. Maybe the nice thing they did

was let them keep their IP things like that. But

they are being sent out into a kind of roofless

video game landscape right now, where it is going to

be incredibly hard to find funding, and maybe, like they've

done before, they can go to crowdfunding. Crowdfunding is only

going to make games of a very certain scale right now,

and they're not going to be able to justify their

team that they have right now. Sorry, what's that?

Speaker 1: Yeah, they know better than anyone about like what that

takes because they started FIG. Tim Shaffer was very involved

in starting FIG, which if people don't remember, that is

the crowdfunding platform where you can crowdfund but then you

are getting a small little investment and if the thing succeeds,

you get some cash back and stuff like that. So

they know what kinds of projects can make that world

go round. And they left that world now kind of

having to return to it because I think we're in

agreement that finding publishers, like we're we just talked about

that Miss game not being able to get a publisher,

Like it feels like games of that scale from known

names if they don't stand a chance. It's kind of like, oh,

everyone's lost at c right now.

Speaker 2: And Sion had you know, they've kind of used crowd

fighting to make a game, and then they tried to

make another kind of you know, big game and they

looked for a traditional publisher, didn't find it. They had

to lay off half of their staff. Seemingly that's the

sequence of events over what happened. Yeah, seems like what

happened you know again, like when they when they did crowdfighting,

It's like, oh wow, we got a couple million dollars.

That's great, and that's a huge effort for crowdfunding. That

is not enough to make video games these days. These

most video games that people are imagining up, even small

video games these days. You know, even Psychoonats too, dat

up really well on crowdfunding, and it needed a lot

of Microsoft money in the end to get across the

finish line. A Pragmata sequel is there's a high likelihood

it's going to happen.

Speaker 1: According to Capcom. They're they're basically just say, yeah, the

high likely likelihood that we are going to do that.

The game sold two point five million copies since launching

in April. That is very good for a new IP.

I think it probably is superseding their expectations for it.

So yeah, I think we kind of all in that

moment we're like, hey, this thing seems like it's doing

everything it needs to do to become the next Capcom

franchise that we are playing for the next ten to

twenty years.

Speaker 2: Does that still seem likely to you? Mike, Absolutely, That's

about as strong as the start as you can hope

for for a new franchise, which there aren't very many

of these days, and Capcon's in a good position where

they're the brand and a lot of people like capcns,

so they see new fancy looking game from the people

who make those Resident Evils that is going to draw

some attention in and of itself. They have a world

here that is interesting, there are other threads they can explore,

and you know, these Capcom games they keep selling, right,

they're going to kind of so for a while there

will be sales that pop off. I think they recently

said rezivil to remake has become the new best Sun

Residevil game instead of five for the first time ever.

So there's going to be a very long tail for Pragmatis,

So get more Pragmatas out there that will have similarly

long tails. Yeah, it makes a million sense to do this.

I'm excited to see what a sequel is going to

look like. And then tell me what's going on with

n SO Mike NSL. We finally had some games drop

for NSO Live, just like as this tradition, So there's

finally a GameCube game coming. On August thirteen, Super Mario

Sunshine is finally coming to NFL okay, I mean, yeah,

we knew it was coming. It's there's a bunch of

ways to play that already on there. Anyhow, for me,

I already have you know, the thirtieth anniversary, a thirty

fifth anniversary collection. That's the thing for me is like

I have this on switch already, and I'm that that

version didn't get a sixty fps mode. There's no way

this one is nso is generally just about, you know,

simple emulation having it look kind of as close to

the original as possible in a lot of cases. So yeah,

it's Mario Sarshry of course needs to be on there.

Maybe a little strange. I just wasn't on the right away.

They always promised it was coming. So here it is

Mario Sunshein is on there. And then two Virtual Boy games,

two more unreleased Virtual Boy games coming on. Zero Racer,

which is like the kind of zero sort of game.

Is that the one that we played at Bambathon for

like in the in the remix or whatever. Maybe it's

a different one now, maybe there's that I forget. I

can't remember because Zero Racers. And then d Hopper, which

is this kind of like top down uh I don't.

Maybe it's thought like, maybe that's over promising it, but

you can kind of jump up to the screen kind

of okaying there. I was keeping every time they say

I'm released Virtual Boy games, I keep thinking it's gonna

be Bound High, which is one that I played at

a GDC or something once, like it's out there. It was,

it was so done and ready to go. I mean

there's a lot of virtual games that have just finished

and unreleased because the thing was a mess. But I

assume we're going to see Bound Hig at some point. Yeah,

those two. But that's neat. That's state that these unreleased

games are getting released. It's it's always this weird thing,

like with Star Fox too. It's like Star Fucks two

is no longer an unreleased video game, right it was released?

Speaker 1: Yeah, you put in the Wikipedia with its release year,

which was what like twenty fifteen or whatever that was.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So more Virtual Boy games than GameCube games

coming to Nso seemingly this month, the Virtual Boy games

are August fourth, So those are sooner than the August

fourteenth release date for man, why do we have to

wait that long for Sunshine? Like I get it in

during the summer I suppose, so yeah, I mean that's nice.

I still think that the GameCube releases have been payingfully

going to add five minutes five months since the previous

GameCube drops. That's insane that this is a new thinks

though there are so many gamecub games. What are you bucking?

I'm hoping they've been using that time to improve the emulation,

and I'm probably gonna spin up Sunshine. This is a

way for me to I'll get a good sense, like

how that game feels on there. Right, So there's a

screen color customization feature is coming from Virtual Boy as well,

so I guess you could change the red to a

different color. I wish never please Attitude D version. I

don't want to use that entire show every time I

want to check out one of these games. I'm sorry,

and we know it's possible. It's like you can do it.

It works on other platforms. August thirteenth, by the way,

for Sunshine on fourteenth, So August thirteenth, you can play

Super Mario Sunshine, which is a good video game, definitely

not one of the greatest games of all time. God

we were it was like this launched with the switch

to right, so like we were playing like Soul Caliber

two Day one Beckett a summer game fest the previous

year in LA and it's like they how much have

they added since then? Like how many games are in

total are on there? I guess I left that. I

know they added, like you know, they've added some of

the Pokemon and they added Fire Emblem in that time.

But yeah, it's just been it's been painfully slow. Yeah,

I fire them this one that I absolutely do want.

Speaker 1: To Chibi Robo f zero, g X, Fire Emblem, Path

of Radiance, Wind Waker, Luigi's Mansion, Pokemon XD, Gale of Darkness,

Soul Caliber two, Super Mario Strikers, and Warrior World.

Speaker 2: Yeah they're doing They're doing like okay, and then just

after Gale of Darkness in March, they just froze for

some reason. And I have it's bizarre. I have no

idea why there was such a freaking long wait. I

think the only other one that they said is going

to come that hasn't yet is Pokemon Colisseum came out before.

Because we're Gale Darkness came before Pokemon Colisseum. But that's

the way, that's what it says. It's like the upcoming

releases are Super Mario Sunshine and Pokemon Colisseum. Well, now,

now Sunshine's.

Speaker 1: Here recent Remember there was those recent storefront storefront retail

slips have heavily pointed to Metroid Prime two echoes and

Pickment two coming in the near future.

Speaker 2: Well where the fuck are those come on? Right?

Speaker 3: Right?

Speaker 2: And I mean again, pick Me two hasn't our way

to play it on switch already, but Matchro Prime two

not available in any way on there. Yeah, just tons

of Game two games still, and you know, I know

that they don't usually get a ton of third party stuff,

but you know, how about how about a few that

would be nice? So yeah, let's let's pick that up Nintendo.

All right, thank you for that. That does it for

the big news I want to talk about. But people

have been sending in super chats, so they want to

talk about stuff. We're going to take a break.

Speaker 1: We'll come back. We will cure you out and talk

about your superchats right after this. All right, we are back, Mike.

Let's get those super chats.

Speaker 2: Alrighty, sir. First up here from Simon from Saskatchewan. The

moral of Cyberdillo always listen to your wife.

Speaker 1: Yes, He makes it very clear every time we're talking

about it that I could have avoided this.

Speaker 2: It's my fault. I should have given it into someone sooner.

And and like you know, when I start to feel

bad for you because the same game is so bad,

I do remind yourself. You wanted one of us to

play this, Yes, and that would have been bad and

completely fair. Yeah, really, very very easily could have been you, Mike,

right like I think you said you wanted it to

be Dan, But I could easily see somehow, Yeah, right,

right right, it could have all It could always shift

it to me, and I've had enough of that three

d O games. Then Simon's back says Jeff, maybe your

your life should get a say. It's what game Mike

plays after all the phantom thread comments he makes really

looking forward to capture if I've stopped on those, it's

all you all now I've apologized and moved it on. No,

it's a bad idea. Uh Sianran Saskatchewan says, do you

think Dan noticed the motif of Zeus's law in the

Odyssey and how it applies to our current times? What

are your three favorite Nolan movies? I'm sure he at

least picked up on all the you know and hospitality

stuff and everything. I think he said is that he didn't,

but I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know.

Incredible by my three very old movies are Batman begins,

The Dark Knight, and Inception.

Speaker 1: Uh mine is probably h let's see here, I'm gonna

go anything, the Prestige, Interstellar, and and Oppenheimer.

Speaker 3: Oh, uh mine, mine, mine are Interstellar Oppenheimer and begins, Sorry.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I still I have not actually seen It's just

an Interstellar or uh Oppenheimer. I I did see Prestige.

I was, but I had a tear, a huge panic

attack at the end of it. That that movie got

too tense for me. Still kind of like, I kind

of like, can't I get all worked out? When I

think about that movie. They did a good job building

tension in that movie. It turns out yes they did.

Next up here from Rise to Ragnarok, he says, my

wife got a new job. We're moving from Colorado to Cincinnati.

Any advice for a future Ohio boy like you guys, Yes,

never call yourself an Ohio boy. You're in Cincinnati, You're

something very different. I'm amusing. Yeah, it's I just I've

jeronedrough Cincinnati once. It's it's different over there. It's just

it's different from the Northeastern vibes we have going on

over here. Where in Colorado are you at? I would

like to know, because it's like, if you're from Denver,

you're going to Cincinnati. Good luck, No, be great, It's

gonna be fantastic. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1: My advice is, yeah, given become a skyline person, Like

it's better than trying to stand against the tide there.

You have to put it on the spaghetti. You could

just have it on the hot dogs. It's really good

on those.

Speaker 2: Go to King's Island right across the border and get

cheap booze in Kentucky. Learn a lot about taft. Yeah

to the president from Cincinnati, will be up to some

parks named after him. Learn become a bit taft guy.

And then the way you got to spell it is

senn sen natty. So yeah, there's three ends in there.

The go outer Haven says, does Zeus's law apply? If

you only have one Monzroe stick left and you really

wanted montro sticks? Would Zeus be mad if I gave

them gum?

Speaker 3: I mean, do you have to give.

Speaker 2: You have to give the visitors, and Enarlope is your

best stuff at all times. So I don't know, like,

just is that give me the quick rundown of what

zeus Is law. Zeus' law this is the kind of

it's the hospitality thing where you have to welcome in

strangers because it might be Zeus in disguise, it might

be a god in disguise, that that kind of thing,

but it's a hospitality. That's what the suitors use, uh right,

the suitors for Odysseus's wife Penelope to just kind of

uh stay forever and eat them out of house and

home and party all the time. Right, So there's all

there's abuses of Zeus's law happening all over the Odyssey,

and it's what causes many people's misfortune. Got it? But

Moncero sticks are pretty fucking good.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you get yeah, you get to have

Montrell sticks. I think they I don't think Zeus. I

think Zeus would understand if you ate.

Speaker 2: The last he gets, especially if they're from Arby's. Come on, yeah,

all right. Next up is from Kitty Catman, who says

just charming into stations ave style was fucking crazy, grubby.

I heard you say that my kid may don't worry

about it.

Speaker 1: My kid made a little a gun out of paper,

and like she was like flinging in the paper ball

come shooting out and even as an eyesight, and I

just kind of whisper to.

Speaker 2: Myself shinzo up a style, and like she was like,

what my eye. I'll tell you, I worry about it. Yeah,

don't worry about it. Good, let's see her now. I'm Missouri.

Matt says, thank you for the content, Jeff and Mike.

Mike regarding meeting new friends on your last road trip.

Buck cluck, motherfucker, mother clucker. Excuse me, mother clucker. That

makes them. Yes, obviously they make front of the chicken.

But I made friends with the nomes. She did make

friends with the nomes.

Speaker 3: Yes.

Speaker 1: I was like coming in late and I saw the gnomes,

and then I came inside and saw you as a

gnome and assumed it must have been some sort of

nome night.

Speaker 2: Then I kept looking around. No one else in there

had no mats other than you. I was able who

ingratiated myself with the gnome exactly.

Speaker 3: So it was a good time.

Speaker 2: It was a good time. Antoy Morales says, good podcast

game I can play during the show. I've still been

going hard on Taro tech le Jien Man, I'm working

on that in good Yes, my last few stars thirty

three hours of gameplay time in it, right and now

anyway as shooter games, Yeah, yeah, the Taro attack is

like my I got thirty minutes listening to a show.

I could do a run. Let's do that. That'd be great.

Game's good, it's good, It's good for sure. These pitches love,

Sosa says, lighting one up in honor the NEEE for

Speed franchise. Our ip ness. Yeah, boy, the last one

was twenty twenty two. I think what I want. I

was looking at this again. Never Speed Unbound was twenty

twenty two.

Speaker 3: Gosh, days like.

Speaker 1: One, like really frequently every other year, right like that?

It was yeah, gosh, that was Criteria. I can't believe

in like all this deeper Speed is stale. What are

we gonna do with Criterion? Geez, no one, no one

could possibly know. There are zero ideas.

Speaker 2: Yeah, since then all they they did was their support

studio for Battlefold six criterions. Every every need for Speed

game is ninety discounted on Steam right now, so is

the best one? Talking about the best one is everybody?

Maybe I play a need for speed game. I don't know. Yes,

it's still just hot pursuit or whatever helps to I

think the last one I played was the one that

was a PS four launch game that was like, it

was kind of like a burnout paradise. Right last time

I played one of these criteria it might have been no, no,

all right, next, g careful, does you guys hear about

Sharman's forever role? Was I like, well, a cloth that

you wash forever roll. I don't want my tilet paper

to be forever.

Speaker 1: I want my I went to be very timp Okay, look,

so shared a hotel room with Dan. I think the

dude uses like a whole roll of toilet paper every

time he goes.

Speaker 2: He said that, Remember does he did he say that?

Ye said he said that for and we got mad

at him and he didn't care.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I see he doesn't want to touch poop accidentally,

so he.

Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but I don't do that. I'm like using

very like not to like it has to be as

spartan as I am. But it was like the first

day we're in there. I hadn't gone yet and the

role was gone. We were already under the second role.

It was it was upsetting.

Speaker 2: We might need to see if we can shame him

out this one because it seems incredibly wasteful. It's incredibly wasteful.

Speaker 1: And it was like almost like now, to be fair,

there were plenty of like there were like two extra

roles in there, so we did make it. But I

was worried for a second when I was struggling to

find to know the role, I'm like, I'm gonna have

to deal with this.

Speaker 2: It almost caused me strife and trauma.

Speaker 3: Wait wait, he ad, guy, why are you using that

much pepper?

Speaker 2: Because he didn't have the bdet Yes, our hotels don't

come with bidets all the time, so yeah, they never

never do, they never do.

Speaker 3: Yeah, you live in Cape Cape.

Speaker 2: I know we're uncivilized people.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 2: I mean, look, I have to use a lot of

toil players in my situation, and I'm not happy about it.

Uh right, when I'm traveling because I don't have the

bid day.

Speaker 3: But come on, come, okay, you you have a condition,

that's all right?

Speaker 2: Comes my best yes mine? Uh big, give it will

get him the forever role. Then it's like, if you

want to live like this, you have to wash your

role afterwards. I'm just gonna say. Other people are like,

I don't want to touch my own proof. You know

you'll be fine. Yeah, you'll be fine, don't It doesn't

mean even if I don't touch it, like, there's still

like some smell happenings like stuff. So I always wash

my hands. It's not gonna be any different.

Speaker 3: Like you, motherfucker, what are you talking about? You don't

want to touch it?

Speaker 2: Like, yeah, don't smear yourself and roll over your own shit.

But if you happen to touch some or you got

to like do a deep cleaning let in the shower,

you're gonna live, all right, Get over you, get over

yourself there, it's fine. Uh fire hair, Oh excuse me,

big Frustraty seven says most of the love for Splatoon

Raiders is due to the excellent post game. Mikey said

he didn't touch that. There's probably part of the disconnect

on what he likes it slightly less than everyone else.

I mean, I want to emphasize this slightly. This thing

has now an eighty on open critic I.

Speaker 1: Think they're still talking about the Metacritic user score, like

that is, yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that always happens because of concerned community efforts, and

we know s Platoon has a very big community. I

don't think if you think that is like addicative of

this game being one of the greatest games of all time.

Speaker 1: Here, try to say, in the house, which is the

number five, that number one on Metacritics? So yeah, right,

so that's what you're trying to say.

Speaker 2: I mean, look, I I just if, like, only if

I joined the game, the fact that was the pool

cool from my reviews, like this game was fun. I beat,

I roll credits, and I don't want to play anymore, right,

So I mean, yeah, I'm sure there's a good postgame

and it's great that it has postgame content, but I

don't mean it's I can't imagine playing the game uh

more would have changed my opinion. After again, I rolled credits,

and I know a lot of games are kind of

like rolling credits earlier. I don't know what you want

me to do. I played the game for ten hours. Still,

that's plenty long for what this thing is. Whatever it

took me to beat it, it is the whole Like where.

Speaker 1: Nintendo puts credits these days is getting crazier and crazier

to me, though, it is like getting earlier and earlier

or whatever. Not that that's what I still think. Ten

hours for this game should give you a pretty good

idea of what it is, and then they did put credits.

Speaker 2: They should make that part very good, like in my opinion,

So yeah, right, yeah, I guess you the Mysterious Book

I's got of shock there, requests there, It's like, now

here's like just some more normal levels, like, oh okay,

that's that's Nintendo. I mean that's been almost all their

rhythm have been just about everything. It's like a.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's a philosophy where they like, hey,

we want to like make people feel accomplished, and then

this game is still so that, like people do feel

like they got their money's worth, they don't feel bad

about not finishing it, and then the true freaks can

keep playing.

Speaker 2: There's something like that happening. It's fine, it makes sense,

it's a good thing to do by getting out what not.

It's just really changed my mind.

Speaker 1: Yes, no, yeah, it's just it makes the conversation weird

about people like talk about finishing games or whatever, and

it's it doesn't it's not very helpful. In a lot

of these cases, you kind of have to just go

in there and kind of say what your experience was.

Speaker 2: Okay, next one, he next one. Some fire says Dan

should try to buy the Sea and see ip from them, Oh,

commanding Conquer, Conquer. Yeah, I haven't done shit with that,

and wee. I think there were some remasters at some

point or another. I think the remaster did very good

and then they just didn't do anything else with it. Yeah,

imagine imagine that. Uh. I think I think we all

kind of been sitting around expecting an arts revival that

hasn't happened yet, right.

Speaker 1: Yeah, the people that like left uh Blizzard to like

make a bunch like none of those really have hit so.

Speaker 2: Right, Like Michael Mike Mooreheim Mike have a new company

like that kind of made something. And it was that

one that was like what's that?

Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't that the one that was like very fast

paced ones that I don't think that was Mike moreheimanink.

Speaker 2: It was the other one. And that one like came

and went already and it's like how it seemed like

such a good idea. But yeah, so all that stuff,

I mean that with Blizz conceiving this year, but it

seems like maybe the new star Craft game geting announced

is not going to be an ARTS, so it's going

to be a first pur shooter. I don't know. It's

it's weird that that's the one franchise that seems to

have kind of fallen under for some reason, but so

many other franchises inspired by at are doing well. At

some point, there's got to be another, uh popular and

you know there's been instances here We've had an age

of Empires four and things like that. But yeah, next

up is Artie Bick says, Point p has been free

from Netflix jail. It's one of my favorite mobile games,

and now it's completely free to play. The fall in

love with its Point piness free to plays. Like not

even the way to put it. It's like it's completely

just free, period. Oh really it is.

Speaker 1: They got rid of all of the any sort of

suggestion of micro transactions, but they got rid of any

way to pay for it.

Speaker 2: There's no ads. It is just a free thing.

Speaker 1: And then the developers like, if you want to tip me,

you can do that, so they made their money from

Netflix and then just put the game out for everyone

to play for free. Now it's like it looks like

a fun game, kind of like it's a doodle jump

esque kind of thing. Yeah, it's like a down well

a little bit, I think, Yeah, it's uh, I think

so yeah, I really enjoyed what I played A point b.

Speaker 2: All right. Next up here is from Adam Jay games Is,

who's been a Lincoln member for forty six months. Thank you,

says hey gents, hope all as well. Yeah, yeah, I're

doing well. Thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, as

guy says Mike. Important Japanese enisode to play Sunshine early.

I think I said before that we had a Japanese

GameCube and there were a few games that I got

early that way and got my so I was one

of them. I played through all Mario Sunshine in Japanese,

which all like those cut scenes were in English, which

is weird that game had them. There was just some

menu stuff I had to figure out, right, and it

was better because that version said Shine get and not

just like Shine right so way up here Shine, I

only got the donkey konga like imported, and I used

a boot disc to play that on my US game Cube.

Dex Up is from Rob Foster. Cosgroves has just finished

a Skyward Sword replay. It's crazy how much better the

worst three d zeladas than most other Ganzy. I always

liked Skyboards Sword quite a bed. It definitely has pacing

issues early on for sure, and kind of kind of

all over the place, But those dungeons are really good. Actually,

kind of thought the sword stuff some of the most

stuff in there was neat. Bruce is on the loose

and we all love that. Yeah, good looking game too,

I liked it kind of. It had a pretty good

art style in that one. So yeah, I'm a Skyward

Sword fan for sure. Yeah, I have a review Skyward Sword.

I believed twenty eleven that one was man.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was like maybe like that bit

mob Still it was something like that. I can't remember

what it was I got it if I remember getting

the whole package for free, and yeah I reviewed, I

don't remember what I gave it. I don't think that

review is online anymore.

Speaker 2: No Sauce Media. Tilly Morrow says you said, Antonio Morales

says you took too long? Were you playing Mega Man? Penis.

That's fine. You need Mega Man one. I don't know that,

but yeah played Mega Man sure, sure, sure A fancy

Feast has thoughts on adding some tie die temp tattoos.

YouTube just crashed a wood moment. I think temp tattoos

to your uh grub adillo costume out to your bike

club outfit. Yeah, which should be buying more shit to

throw on you as Goosha doesn't look heavy or hot

enough yet.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just not miserable yet. And we really got

to get to that point if we're doing things right.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and then boat Night says, and Mario Odyssey is

cappy a Sina.

Speaker 3: Gosh.

Speaker 2: I like that idea, although I'm not sure how far

we can we can take that peril unfortunately. I mean,

he does go to a bunch of different places, and

that's that's what you got, all right. Cool?

Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike, Thank you for everybody for sending in

the super chats. If you send in anymore, we will

get to the rest of them before we're done here tonight.

Speaker 2: So thank you so much. Once again.

Speaker 1: Let's take a break. When we come back, we're gonna hat.

We're gonna hat about that hard. I'm gonna hat for

all of you right after this. All right, we're back

and Mike, you know what I need. It's time for

the hat.

Speaker 2: All right, we got I'm shaking up this hat. Everybody's

hat has some slips and paper in there that could

take in a word or phrase that can go into

the sentence. What is the greatest blank of all time?

Many of them are video game related, many of them

are not. I threw some new ones in here. We

also have some order ones that have not been picked

but yet. So I've been shaking it. Let's get in

there that one. Let's see what is the greatest Kirby game? Aime, God,

there's a there's a lot of good options for this.

I know your answer already. Let me say it.

Speaker 3: Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 2: It's Kirby, It's god, is it?

Speaker 3: What?

Speaker 2: What's the super Nintendo game called Superstar Superstar? Thank you?

Speaker 3: Kirby Superstar is Superstar Saga.

Speaker 2: So I'm like, wait a second, that'd be good. That

is That's that? Is it for you?

Speaker 4: Right?

Speaker 2: That's still the number. But it's still the best one,

I think.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 2: It was the first one where it wasn't just oh

you coughty a character and you get a move, you

get a whole move set from them. It has you know,

it's like six games and one. What it means is

there's kind of all these mini campaigns that a lot

of them played like a Kirby game, but there is

a twist. One of them's more of an open ended

in metroid Vana. One of them is kind of more

set piece focused. One of them is kind of a

remake of Kirby one. Another one has this kind of

a different way of getting the power ups. There's a

lot of mini games like The Draw, the Gourmet Race.

This an incredible package and it had a great two

player co op system. Me and my brother Chris played

that constantly all the times. I love Superstar. There's other

very good ones though, for sure forgotten Land of three

D one recently very good. Got some good ZOC recently too,

for sure.

Speaker 1: Quick can I should I just play Superstar or is

Superstar Ultra acceptable?

Speaker 2: Just play Superstar in NSL, I mean I guess, oh

you could play you can't play Alter because of your

aunt your thor right? Yeah, I got a bunch of

ys to play. Yeah, play that way, play that way

whichever when you want. It's good cool.

Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, I like so my like alternatives. Here would

be maybe some that are more spinoffs. So I don't

know if I would like push that hard. It would

be dream Course and it would be Canvas Curse both games.

Speaker 3: That ifs for sure.

Speaker 1: Yes, definitely the two best spinoffs, and I just adore

those games. But there's there's spinoffs they're not they're not

Kirby games.

Speaker 2: They're Kirby games. Maybe they're worth considering. Definitely, Yeah, no,

I'm happy to. Yeah, you know, especially for this series

where the spin offs are maybe more important than almost

any other series outside of Mario, right, kind of the

whole point of Kirby. There's been so many good ones,

even the recent uh Star Star Kirby. The racing one

was good. Air Riders, air Riders was good. I liked

Kirby Pinball before. I do think Rinkfors the best of them. Yeah,

give you forgot Lands. Yeah that's the dead Switch one, yep,

we brought that up. Amazing. Now. Yeah, there's there's some

good ones, basically amazing for services. What I could never

get into, like even if somebody loves much Vedas, I

always end up just kind of lost, and I'm it's weird.

That the Kirby one is the one where I'm like, what,

I don't know I'm supposed to do. I'm gonna stop.

Actually the three DS one was also very good. Planet Yeah,

that's probably the best one Robobot, but Triple Ducks isn't

right there as well, And Canvas Curse is also fantastic.

Marino just went on chat, highest rated on medic Right,

that's fun. I got. Canvus Curse is so good. It's

a shame that the We We You follow up wasn't

as good. Yeah, yeah, right. I was like, oh this,

they're going to expand that, and it just was didn't

feel that's nice. I yeah, but yeah, I do feel

pretty strongly about Superstar. If you don't have like major objection,

I would like to push that I do not. We

can go with that, all right, then, So the greatest

Kirby game of all time is, in fact Kirby Do So.

I shout out to Kirby Adventure on the S as

well Return to Dreamland, the Gable advanced remake of that.

All right, Even Kirby's Dreamline, which I played right when

that came.

Speaker 4: Out, that's good, games Man, even Mass Attack, all sorts

of fun stuff, all right, Herby's Avalanche, which is just yep,

you got a new one here.

Speaker 2: What is going to write everybody? Uh right, I guess

who is the greatest Pokemon to live with of all time?

Speaker 3: Okay, no, mister mime, he will fuck your mom. Yeah

you don't want that.

Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't Pokemon to fuck my mom.

I mean, got it. They're playing for Copia. Ditto's pretty nice.

Oh yeah's handy. Yeah, Dato is just gonna apparently build

a house for me and like furnish it and do

chores for me and think me on adventures. But that

that part is nice, right.

Speaker 1: Okay, So I've done a cursory search of useful Pokemon

and the first one that came up here was row Tom.

It's applasma Pokemon that can possess standard home appliances, transforming

into a lawnmower, washing machine, refrigerator, fan, or convection oven.

Speaker 2: It could be.

Speaker 1: It can essentially automate your entire household infrastructure while communicating

directly through your electronic devices.

Speaker 4: Right.

Speaker 2: This is the one that always like becomes your poke

decks and like a lot of the newer games and

things like that. So that's a good point. Actually, yeah,

there's also not a creepy factor there like there there

is with detto. There are most say, the various things

you can do with the dido that make me k

exactly and I don't I don't want to think about

people doing that to a ditto. Yeah, absolutely not.

Speaker 3: So.

Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's ones that like, you know,

you just have like the ones that look like dogs

and they're just dogs, right do I just want an

evy because they're like they're like cute and nice and stuff.

Speaker 3: Yeah, cat or a dog.

Speaker 2: Almost any water pokemon, I guess just gets you an

endless supply of fresh water that'll be important in the

water wars. Right, Yeah, that God that'd be used man

that you know? That speaks to me.

Speaker 1: I did see, like I don't know what I was watching,

and maybe my kids were watching a short and I

was watching blastois just like shoot out a can in

the water, and it's.

Speaker 2: Like, God, that would be where that come from because

it's not a plasma type water.

Speaker 1: I did think about it for a second, like how

is he doing that? But he's probably just like combining

hydrogen and oxygen atoms inside his body, right, think I

wash water.

Speaker 2: Do you think if you have execute or whatever that

thing was, that's just a bunch of eggs of faces.

You think if you took one out and cracked it

for breakfast, like another one will replace it?

Speaker 1: And I do, and I do not think they would

be phased at all. I don't think they would carry

at all. I think they would just look at you

blankly and be like, yeah, that's what you do to me.

They get it, They get it.

Speaker 2: Does Chancey crate eggs as well? Chance He's like a

nurse come like heal you? And she does have an

egg that heals you? Okay, free healthcare, free healthcare in

this day and age, right, Chancey, even like I live

like a king. Yeah yeah, Chancy. It's got a pleasant

to a good bedsigned manner on Chancy right, even like

saying Chancy, Yeah, it's a good name. I like, yeah,

bout timmy boy. I was about to say it was

probably still wrote them or whatever. But Chancey, you might

be having me here, might be getting here. Yeah, I

already have a refrigerator. I do not have free healthcare. Right.

I don't want to talk to my microwave. I've not

get it. It can connect the Wi Fi. I've never

done it. Yeah right, Yeah, I don't need the Internet

of all things bullshit in my house.

Speaker 3: One that will make me a lot of money, you know,

you could.

Speaker 1: I mean, if you're willing to do Pokemon fighting, I

mean any of them right that can fight men.

Speaker 2: Now get a legend Pokemon church ticket. Probably also, I'm

probably mister mind. Actually, it doesn't mean I'll just make

money with his head. It is a cat. Okay, that

can't be right because, like people have me out, so

they seem to be living as normalized as anybody else, right,

they haven't really explored that possibility yet. Yeah, I like

the Chancy answer personally. I mean, at this point, I

think healthcare is actually more valuable than money, right, It's

where most of the money goes to. So yeah, yeah,

definitely Chancy. All right, the best book I'm want to

live with this chancey we have decided. Oh there's that

garbage when I just eat your garbage garbage? Yeah that's

pretty good too. Yeah, I'm gonna go deep. I'm gonna

try to falling from the bottom here, took it up?

Got it? Oh okay? Yeah, all right? Interesting? What is

the greatest video game idle music of all time.

Speaker 1: Uh, Metroid Prime does come to mind for me. Initially,

I just would sit on that title screen for a

very long.

Speaker 2: Time, you know, you know, I much a Prime two

is even better actually, Okay, dude, okay, yes, that's that's

really good as well. Yep Yoshi's Island also, like as

the instruments would come in slowly over time, I would

listen to that forever and ever and ever. That's very good. Yeah.

So again we're talking about title music everyone, not like

pause music or not like the map. Just like the title,

the main title shows up, You've got music there. My

bare Heart's out for you. But boy, Keenum Heart Swift

Dearly Beloved is so freaking good, that little piano song

and just that that kind of that art there that

hits me like crazy every single time. Yeah.

Speaker 1: I definitely remember thinking the music was very good on

the title screen when I played that game. But like

what about like Dova Kine and Skyrim, I mean, that

really gets me going every time.

Speaker 2: I think about it. I do, but don't I almost

don't associate with the title. I mean, I'm sure it does,

but like that's not what I'm thinking about that one. Yeah, Yeah,

that's not what I'm thinking about that. This equivalent would

be like Halo Halos is very good, it's really good

that Yeah, that guy sucks, but that's that is incredible

title music for sure, some some faun fantasy ones that

are big for me. Nine has a Place to Call Home,

which is this really haunting song awesome? Then ten has

this x Anarkan. Sandarkan is incredible. It's really really freaking good.

Speaker 3: Yeah, But is that that's that turns your into your

screen once you get to that place? It doesn't. It's

not yours, isn't it.

Speaker 2: Sandarkan is not the title music.

Speaker 3: I think it's until you get the sound card that

you get that title.

Speaker 2: Really no, I think no, I don't think that's right.

I think it was Ben tell me, I think it's there.

From the beginning. Works have some good ones, specifically the

Wrath of the lich King kind of login title screen

music was incredibly People are saying that great time. I

remember as a kid not looking that great time one

being like this is really sub dude, why aren't they

playing the Zeta song? I was like, so what it's

like quiet bullshit? I actually kind of to this day

still don't really like it.

Speaker 3: I'll admit it.

Speaker 1: I always found it very like, like, I don't know,

like enticing it made me want to get into the game.

But it's yeah, I don't know. It maybe is not

the top tier for me. I think it's still like

an a tier though.

Speaker 2: Yeah, hang on, I got one. Let's uh is this

you get rebel cop?

Speaker 4: Is that what this is? Oh?

Speaker 2: That should get robo cops? That would be good. GP

your game boy rubber? Oh oh shit, it's.

Speaker 3: Two thousand ecs and Wiley's escaped.

Speaker 2: And built eight more evil baits. Where's a god? Ah? Yeah?

Speaker 3: Oh oh?

Speaker 2: Mega Man two. Mega Man two is real good. The

scrolling up, yes, yes, the building in the roof, let's

squall straight up in search of proof. Perhaps he's up

there and flaunting his head. Fuck, yeah, come on, come

on look. I like Mega Man three is also quite

a lot. Maybe is very good. Two. But this ship,

oh god, let's go, let's fucking go. That is for

again for a bit, It's incredible. How good Megan music?

It was incredible. It's better than any intentive soundtrack on

the ideas. I'm a lot of great soundtracks. Yeah they do,

but like they're doing ship with that. That's Mega Man two.

There's gonna be four more after that one on that console. Christ,

it's that Mega Man two. I think it's that.

Speaker 3: Uh man, God, damn.

Speaker 2: It, I love that soundtrack. God video games.

Speaker 3: Persona Tree, Oh well, oh the personas the one. I

really like the Persona Tree. Yeah, p G one.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Rememberisode of four is like a kind of like

instrumental version of never More.

Speaker 3: I like that quite a bit.

Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of good ones.

Speaker 3: But boy, Mega Man two, you played that. I'm like, damn,

let's go.

Speaker 2: I'm sorry. My Brental Floss came out. Everybody is the name?

He maybe thought of it in a moment.

Speaker 3: I don't know.

Speaker 2: Is Breno Floss still around everyone? Remember that guy?

Speaker 3: Is that the lyrics? That?

Speaker 2: What you were doing there? What those lyrics were? Okay?

He added lyrics of videgome songs. Yeah, Brennolos think, yeah,

all right, let's go, let's get back in here. Let's

see got one. I think it's a good one. I

think I can sense it's been all video game ones

this time, right, Yeah, that's right. Interesting, this one is

also this is a fun one. What is the greatest

speed run game to watch, so we like watching speed runs.

There are certainly some that I enjoy watching more than

others the media. One medium one comes to mind as

Mario sixty four. Those speed runs are incredible with all

these different versions of it, watching humans do it. There's

that new task that got unveiled at the last Games.

Speaker 3: Done quick was like just.

Speaker 1: So fascinating on its own. Watching them break that thing

apart with Taz was like it was artwork. Yeah, yeah,

that one was incredible for sure.

Speaker 2: Like I respect the like the three D Super out

of Bounds games and things like that, but sometimes they

do a lot like the Metroid Prime speed run to

me is kind of the point because it is just

sort of a lot of breaking the geometry. Again, I

get it, and it's neat in its own way, and

I do respect it, yes, but it's not what I

enjoy watching. Is much compared to Mario sixty four. Right,

even Super Metric Super Metro is another great one, and

there's a ton of different versions of Super Metroid. It's

a classic there. For we said, uh, any super monkey

Ball speed run is so entertaining nuts, Yes, yeah, those

are always really fine. It's just like kind of people

like knowing exact which way to tilt to the ball

just goes one thousand miles per hour through the goal.

It's insane looking. Then, some of the newer games that

have like really popped off have been like Neon White

and Celeste.

Speaker 3: So to say Celeste less is awesome.

Speaker 1: For it's awesome. They're really good, you know. I know

I will always like Super Metroid. I will also always

go for Sympathy of the Night. I think that those

oftentimes those are races and they're really good.

Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Yeah, a lot of the metroc vans are

good Super Metroids. Funkus that shine spark stuff always looks

crazy in there too. Yep. Again, there's just some people

look Super Metroid or Mario sixty four. Yeah, and I

think I'd say Mario sixty four just like we see

people like play that game cleanly in the speed Run.

It's just wild. I get so many versions of it

and go from like getting one or zero stars to

getting all of them and all the things in between.

Super frigging neat. And it's like, you know, the.

Speaker 1: Control, like the sort of set that you have, the

movement set is at a point in time where they

really let you do so much, very expressive, and that

all that comes into play in those speed.

Speaker 2: Runs, right, And a lot of the Mario games are

fun to watch. Sunshine is like maybe the second best

speed run game, which is awesome. Yeah, honesty, also really

good to watch more so than like I like the

Gallessy games for sure, but just that more linear nature

doesn't make them quite as good. Speed run games sometimes

a little bit little less are still amazing. Breath of

the Wild, I'll throw that out. There is one that's

very good as well, just guy that one. That one

got so broken, But then they still have to do

these like very weird maneuvers of like hitting the rock

a thousand times so it's gonna shoot. They can get

on top of it and fly across the map. And

I still really like that. All right, we'll say Mario

sixty four. It's that one. Yeah, I always get you know,

if I see that, I have to watch it. Oh right,

next up, then let's see here now, Okay, do blue

stuck together? I took the top one off. Okay, this

is good, all right? Not figuring what is the greatest

painting of all time? All right, I mean there's one

I've been thinking about a little bit. Is it the

one from Cyberdillo. Yeah, it's it's the Death of Marat

the Cravaggio. Oh yeah, yeah, it's that the French revolutionary

journalist who was extremist. Maybe well there you know it

murdered his bathtub because he just like spent all day

in a medicinal bath because he had a horrible skin disease.

A woman came in and killed him and then she

was executed. French Revolution. So messy, so messy. But yeah,

it's it's a very it's an iconic painting and for

some reason it's Cyberdillo just recreates it with the cypertillo

and it's just it's so unhinds. What the fuck is

going on right now?

Speaker 4: Yeah?

Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good one. Yeah, God, there is I.

Speaker 1: Like girl with a pearl earring mic, that's that is

the one that I the blue headband, the blue headband

and like looking over her shoulder. Yeah, and like with

the expression of like there's something going on here, there's

like more to the story of what we're seeing based

on your expression.

Speaker 2: I like that one a lot. There was the super okay,

but hello, we're trying to keep it away from video games,

Come on.

Speaker 3: Starring.

Speaker 1: That's a banger. Starry Night is absolutely a banger. There's

a reason it's uh, you see it everywhere, and then

it's also in pegal So that's cool. Kind oh right,

yeah that one.

Speaker 2: I do like that one. What's that one that's like

shows that kind of corner restaurant or bar? Oh yeah, diner, yes, yeah,

corner you put diner painting diner. Google will come up painting.

That one's good. Yeah. Nighthawks Nighthawks by Hopper from nineteen

forty two, really like, yeah, nighthawks. Look at it. It's

a it's a Philly thing, kind of a simple comp

It's like a simpler composition they're expecting when you look

at it. The people are almost more detailed than the environment.

Just fascinating. It's like there's like three people in there

just kind of chilling out. Boy, big fan, big fan

of nighthawk. Actually that's pretty good. They're the renoir.

Speaker 1: Well, you had some like someonees that like, what was it?

What was the one that uh, what's his name? Did

look at in fist Bueler day off?

Speaker 2: Was that a renoir? I'm not a parispeeler guy, okay, yeah,

it's like that's my impressionists, I'm afraid. Okay, fair enough,

Yeah that I do like that one quite a bit.

I like impression of spainting. It's quite a bit. Yeah. Wait,

tall about the Mona Lisa, Yeah, you're not gonna not

pretty good. It's pretty good. I got that. I did

see it when I was at they go to the

lou and see it one time.

Speaker 3: That part was nice.

Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, I know, too basic to pick it.

Speaker 3: Pretty cool.

Speaker 2: I mean it's a work of painting, right, but it's

uh yeah, it's not on canvas. It's on a ceiling, right, Yeah,

are we talking about ones on canvas? Is that what

we're doing here? I think, I mean, I get, I mean, please,

I don't know if it's a yeah, it's been more

like a mural. It's incredibly important. You know, you have

Raphael self portrait Rafael kind of sexy, right.

Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, buddy whatever.

Speaker 2: Yeah, mm hmm. Well do you like it?

Speaker 3: Do you like a Monet?

Speaker 2: Remember when animal was mad because he missed the Monette exhibit?

Speaker 3: Yeah?

Speaker 2: I think my mom used to like go to schools

and talk about Monet. Oh yeah, that was about.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2: If I'm much of a Picasso guy, I can appreciate

some Picasso. I can. Uh.

Speaker 1: I like some people that like go like especially because

like when you see like, oh, he's very good at

at painting, uh, deeply realistic things. And then he got

sick of that and started doing the impression of stuff.

Speaker 2: That's that's the way. Oh he must know something I

don't and I like it. Yeah, I guess, And it's different,

but I guess I take a van Go over a

Picasso generally.

Speaker 3: Very son.

Speaker 2: Yeah, like Money's Sunrise is very freaking good brand. Yeah,

which one are you leaning towards? I keep thinking about Hoppers? Actually, yeah, no,

I like that one a lot. I've always liked that one. Uh.

And I think it's like Yes Night by Hopper.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it's off enough off the beaten path that I

won't feel like a complete basic betch if we choose it, right.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not just saying Elisa, right, We're a bit

more interesting than that. Make sure chat's not like really mad.

But yeah, I think maybe we will go that dog's

playing poker?

Speaker 3: Please?

Speaker 2: All right?

Speaker 3: It did this fucking thing.

Speaker 2: It's a series of oil paintings by American artists Cassius

and Marcella's cool its great name.

Speaker 3: This was this guy's bit.

Speaker 2: He did a lot of.

Speaker 3: Fucking.

Speaker 2: I don't know.

Speaker 3: I was like, let's do it. I can't.

Speaker 2: I can't.

Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. Yeah, I was ready

to follow you down.

Speaker 2: The rabbit hole. I just can't fucking do it. I'm sorry.

That's why don't we go? Where don't we go? With nighthawks? Everybody?

Uh So, I'm gonna put it in here as the

greatest painting ever is Nighthawks? Good stuff? Good stuff. I

would I would hang that one in my house. It's

a vibe. It's a good vibe in that one. Absolutely

all right, right, you down for maybe one more here? Yeah,

let's do it. One more from the hat. Everybody, let's

get in there.

Speaker 3: Get in there.

Speaker 2: I got one right in the middle, one sticking to it.

Speaker 3: Get out of here?

Speaker 2: All right? What is this? Let's see? Okay, Okay, I

want to add on and on. What is the greatest

pop chart flavor of all time? Okay? Do you have

a favorite pop tart flavor? I guess I don't know.

If you're a pop tart guy. I used to be

a big pop tart guy. I haven't.

Speaker 3: I don't eat three this question. That's like, it's like

important to people this live will ruin your your brand

and ship, so be careful what you say.

Speaker 2: I understand the importance of what's going on here. Don't worry.

We're going to take this very very seriously. I have

a I have a list of all the current flavors.

There's many that have been I do have mine, and

it's been mine for a long time and it's not

sort of like waned. So go ahead and I don't know.

I bet you were touched at the time of the

cultural milestone that was the introduction of the wild berry flavor.

Maybe it might be a wild berry guy to me,

but that's not my favorite when I was When I

was a kid, it was s'mores all the way. I

lived off that the fucking sports pop tart. That's probably

my standard breakfast for way too long in my life.

Once I kind of lost my taste for chalk, which

is something I talked to out, I have shifted over

to the brown sugar cinnamon, which is delicious. I don't

even need the frosted version of that one, honestly, I

kind of like that one. Unfrosted really good, So unfrosted

brown you really think getting the unfrosted version, Yeah, I

just feel like frosted pop tart like you have moved,

Like why even get a pop tart at that point?

Speaker 3: I don't know.

Speaker 2: Maybe it's good without the frosting. I think I kind

of even anti frosting in general. I gotta eat the

frost in my cake. I think it's too much. There's

three unfrosted flavors, and it's their standards. It's a blueberry, strawberry, brown, sugar, cinnamon,

those coming unfrosted variations. Which one are you thinking of?

Speaker 3: Though?

Speaker 1: So there is a better version of s'mores that happened,

and I guess it's maybe more recent, but it is

definitely my Favorite's hot Fudge Sunday.

Speaker 2: I've seen this hot Fudge Sunday. First of all, it

looks really nice. It's got like a really good like

pop to it with, like you know, they kind of

put on sprinkles or whatever, and then it just taste

way better than even the smallest one does. Uh, And

I feel very strongly about him. It's hot punch Sunday.

It is by you feel that strong look, we don't

want well, we don't want to talk about just the

classic strawberry, because.

Speaker 1: Even even that is the other that is the common bottle.

I will hear yest strawberry is still fantastic. It is

like it's not cherry, right, it is strawberry that has

the white fasting.

Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't like cherry cher I don't like

the cherry one strawberry though, which right, I like nothing

else strawberry flavored on this planet to me clear, But

that's shrawberry pop tart. I will hit that up every

every like once every five years. Maybe. Gosh, just so

many good signing ones. Pretzel, cinnamon, sugar, cookies and cream,

confetti cupcake, yep, God, cookies and cream is also pretty good.

He's in cream, that's yeah, that one is on there. Look,

I have flipped lopped in my life, right, so I

don't feel maybe as strongly as you, so if.

Speaker 1: You want to go with uh, I think that they've

had a bunch of really great pop tarts, and then

I think hot Fudge Sunday took it to the next level.

Speaker 2: I think it's hot much Sunday. I want to just

make sure I got the name of this right, because

I see chocolate hot fudch Sunday. It's just hot fudge Sunday.

Got you all right?

Speaker 1: Then to the point where it's like, if you haven't

had it, everybody, go out and try how fudge Sunday

and then report back. I'm that confident that you're going

to appreciate this as long as you like pop darts.

If you don't like pop tarts, then just forget this

whole conversation.

Speaker 2: It is an it is an old person thing for

me to be like, I don't think frosting before you

have a poster shoodle guy where you could control them frosting.

Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely was like curious because the advertising was everywhere,

and they like made me feel like a fucking heathen

for like wanting something as discussing as a pop tart when.

Speaker 2: I could have a true like gourmet meal of a

toaster strudle. So I tried a couple of times. It

was always disappointing. In in Disney World and Hollywood Studios

and the Toy story Land, there's something called Woody's lunch Box,

a little food stand. They kind of have their own,

uh versions of pop tarts there, and in the summertime

they had a key line pie one. Oh oh that's all.

Speaker 3: Oh, oh that's good.

Speaker 2: Oh that sounds real good A lot like that's quite

a a lot. If you try the protein pop tarts, Yeah,

they're healthy. I guess it's got protein. Come on, I

need to yeah, to go with my zimpies. Yeah yeah,

Zephanie's all right, let's recount what we have decided here

with the help of the hat today, everybody. The greatest

Kirby game of all time is Kirby Superstar. The greatest

Pokemon to live with is Chancy. The greatest video game

title music is Making Me Two. Greatest speed ring game

to watch it's Super sixty four. The greatest painting is Nighthawks.

Greatest pop tart flavor is hot Budge Sunday. There you go.

Some good work there today, Mike, well done, and thanks

to the hat. Yeah, don't think of me.

Speaker 1: Thanks the hat, Yeah, thank you hat of course, as always,

just really the anchor of this whole show.

Speaker 3: Yeah all right. Look, hey I looked that up and

it seems like the frosted strawberries the most pops flavor.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, that's the that's the rates

the standard bearer, right, Yes, yeah, yeah, the plane. Unfrosted

pop tart is like unfrosted mini weeds.

Speaker 1: Like to me, it was always just frosted many weeks

and then discovering that they sold many weeks without frosty,

and like.

Speaker 2: Okay, that's a h I agree, I agree, that's rough.

Speaker 3: Boom.

Speaker 1: All right, we will take a break, we'll come back

and talk about what we've been playing, and then I

think there have been a few more super chats.

Speaker 2: We'll check in on that right after this. We're back.

It's the sides. Jeff Grubb, Mike Minati, Mike Manatti. What

have you been playing?

Speaker 3: Boy?

Speaker 2: What have I been playing?

Speaker 4: A lot?

Speaker 2: Like surviving the airports and stuff like that. But uh, yeah,

and it's been kind of like getting back into things

I was in the middle of, like I said, cleaning

up Partech Legion, trying to get all the kind of

stars finished in that one, which like it's sometimes last

one is just playing the game originally because it's like

it's not just beat the level, it's going there and

kill so many people with drones and now I'm like

resetting if I don't get a drone type weapon in

my first stuff like that. It's so fun though, And

at this point I'm like, yeah, let's let's get all

this shit. Why not pretty deep into my Elden Ring

run with no summons. I'm kind of at the end

of the base game. I just did a bunch of

fun bosses last night, including a like horror Loo right, uh,

the guy like the first outen the Lord. Then he

just becomes like a guy who's going to try to

grab you and squeeze you to death.

Speaker 3: Super fun. Moge the Blood Gone.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Mog the Blood guy. Yeah.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 2: I'm like light armor. So I'm dodge rolling and I

have this one kind of like big bleed sword. Okay,

so it's a bit slow, but I can get bleed

PROCs with it, and I like, you can build, you

can dodge pretty easily. Right, Yeah, that's kind of my

whole thing was like. But for a while I was like,

you got a big, big shield, that's the way to go.

And after playing a lot of these games, I realized

why most people don't do that.

Speaker 3: Now.

Speaker 2: Actually, it turns out light dodge roll is almost always

a way to go. It's almost always worth having left

defense because you're just dodging much much better. It's made

a lot of fights fun, the Malcalf, the Black Blade

fight or whatever.

Speaker 3: That's that's called.

Speaker 2: God, that fight is so that fight was. But so

it's been the hardest one for me is that I

remember for sure. It's like, yeah, they really stuck out.

Speaker 3: There's so many good but it's a good game. Man.

It's like fighting this again.

Speaker 2: It's different because it's not as like, WHOA, I can't

believe this is it's so big and this is that

like I know a lot of what's coming, but god,

I just remembering how fun these boss fights are and

how cool this world is. It's awesome, and you know

that unlock the DLC. So I'm gonna be going back

into child the ur Tree the next thing. I'm gonna

do this fight Millennia. And that's the whole reason I

wanted to do this is because that was the one

I kind of feel like I didn't really get to

do because I, you know, my build when I first

played the game, I kind of just couldn't do it.

She does like a lot of the bleed or there

was a scar that rot went through my shields. I

just summoned people and they kind of fought her for me,

right it's like supposed to be like the most one

of the most memorable bosses in the game, So this

time I'm gonna do that for real, probably tomorrow. Very cool. Yeah, yeah,

there's the reason, like let me solo her is naked, right, Like, yeah,

that that is sort of the ideal form of a

from Soft character at this point. Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 1: I've been kind of just bouncing around between a few things,

but most of the stuff I talked about on ninten

Dog's earlier this week, so not much else to really

say in this moment.

Speaker 2: IM kind of getting other games lined up, some stuff

for work that I'll be able to talk about soon

that I'm excited about, but nothing quite yet. So like

any other super chats, let me see right, okay, yes, yeah,

what's up?

Speaker 3: Oh it's really fun? Is it really fun? Although you

guns see it's my stream I was streaming in you

can see me being like diplomatic I feel about the

game because I was like, oh, it feels kind of weird.

I just know I can't get the like combos going,

and then I'll look outside and all them off. This

ship feels like as and I was like, Okay, I'm

not the only one who feels like the movement in

this game is kind of not good. So yeah, it

has that thing, it's slow. It's for people that don't

know the Marvel token is a versus game where you

only have one well, you have four characters, but you

have only one HP bar, so it's share amongst all

the characters. And you don't have all the characters when

this five begins, so you have to unlock them through

like mechanics. So it's pretty different from a versus game.

And I don't know, it's just I can see and

I understand why people like it and if I like

it too, it's just me personally how it feels. The

movement and the combos. There are two arbitrary with the

requisites for your combos, like you only have four gatlins.

Get Lins for the people don't know, are like just

like you can cancel you normal punches into a normal

so you only have four, which is like super short.

And on top of that, you have a combo meter

that once it feels the enemy character wishes fall. So

it makes like the game feel for people that play

a lot like me, I play. I have thousands, literally

upon thousands of our own versus games, so like for

people like me, it feels really bad when you like

play that game and you try to like get like

Combo's going and doing a bunch of lied stuff that

you're really used to. With this Arcsist game, it's like,

you know, classic arcs is tame, like like guilty gear

and all that stuff. You can't do a bunch of

it is like your Combo chances are like huge possibilities.

They're like they're like a fucking skill tree. You know,

you can go through a bunch of like places in

this game is not like that. It's a little bit

more like limited. So it doesn't feel very well for

people like me. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna adapt because

I'm a fucking sick and you need to get good

at this game. So I don't know how like other

people is gonna feel that play that that much video games, Well,

I know how it feel, but like more like people

that play fighting games not that often, but they like

fighting games, I don't know how they're gonna feel about

this whole this game feels. So it's gonna be weird

for a little while and it figures out the proper

way to play the video game because it plays very

different from every other Versus game I play.

Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it does sound like that. It probably just

takes some time.

Speaker 1: I will say, I won't be surprised if you come

back Christian a month after it's out and like have

fully fallen in love with it.

Speaker 2: That I bet that is an arc that could easily happen.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I can totally see it too.

Speaker 4: It is. It is.

Speaker 3: It is a beautiful game. It looks awesome. Like other

than the feeling I have with the game, well, I

interact with it. It's just fun. It's a fun video game.

I was, I was playing. I was finding fun, even

though you know, it's that uncanny valley of like seeing

a versus game that doesn't play like a versus game

kind of. But once I'm over that, I think I'm

gonna really like it. And I actually I love games

and the way they do stuff. And I think they're

gonna in some stuff. But are they release It's for

sure they're going to figure some stuff. But yeah, it's

it is a really good fun video game.

Speaker 2: I can't wait too to see it set check and

playing about the Auto Combus you think is you think

the Auto Comba stuff has gone too far do you

think maybe now?

Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, like this. There's been autocombosis in

fighting games for like over ten years now, and it's

fine that the genre didn't like die he's been If anything,

it kind of grows with little by little, so it's

not that bad. It's just you need to people should

realize with each new game that comes with that autocome

but they can shoot like the beginning match that and

other people just doesn't know how to react to that.

So you should just like need to figure it out

how get over that? And it's that's it issues playing

playing in fighting games is to adapt to the circumstances

of the fighting game. And like that's another circumstance.

Speaker 2: You know, it's you were did you play on PC? Yeah?

Speaker 3: Playing PC? My it wrong, kind of weird, but at

the end it done pretty well on my PC. I

don't have the most powerful pey, but I know that

people it's like, yea even more powerful Piecy was running

Wars for some reason because it has it's not get

good and people in ches to say now you just

say telling good, No, I actually saying, like, understand the game.

It's just done. You know, understand what game you're playing. Yeah,

I saw that people were like having really big issues

with the performance in PC, and some of that is

the anti chet and the like DMR the how are

you saying, Yeah, the anti particy is tough, So I

don't know d r M there you are kind of things. Yeah,

I don't know what's going on with that, to be honest.

Speaker 2: Someone asked what explaining to auto combo is. It's just

when you mash one button to do a combo, and

it's like it's gonna be a decently long combo. It's

not gonna do as much damage as if you kind

of did that combo naturally. But it's kind of a

way like to do something flashy without really having to

us through the regamaro of really learning the system.

Speaker 3: And it's another tool that you have when you learn

the game too, like oh maybe I can't. Autocombos are

special because they vacuum the character your combo into your

combo because they don't want you to drop the combos.

So if you are in a weird like space where

like the enemy is a little bit higher than you,

you can match the autocombo and you will put it

at the same level as you. So you can finish

the company. It's like, yeah, it is. It is another

tool in the tool kit for a player. But yeah,

people need to stop being so dramatic about autocombos and

like one band specials and that kind of stuff. And

there's also the other side of that where it's like

every game should rechoose one button special because like motion

inputs are old. It's like, no, they're not. They're actually

the best thing. They happen to fighting gainst motion inputs,

like imply intention when you play a fighting game, because

you can only do a dragon punch going forward, you

can do a dragon patch blocking. So that's intention in

the the sign of the video game. People need to

understand that we need both, and some games don't have both.

Those those games play different. It's just that it's not

at the end of the world when you all need

to chill out. All right, Uh, thank you, Christian, And

I played the thing real quick. I played the ball

breaking the pemode. It's not an extraction shooter.

Speaker 2: Wait, the p v emo is not an extraction shooter.

Speaker 3: It's to me, it's not. It's not an extraction shooter

because it has Okay, you go into the thing with

a set like load out. They give you a sad

load out. You go into the thing. You do some

quests inside the like these missions where you go from

point from room to room looking for these computers that

will increase your clearance level in this like big map

and in cry which is like the biggest they're kind

of big map where it's all inside. So you level

up this this clearance levels to go through room through room,

and like you pick up this this kind of islab mission.

They tell you pick up this canister, then take this

kind of to this other room. Fill it with this thing.

Now take it to the other thing, and now you

can open this door. And behind the door it has

like loot and that look. You don't keep it. You

don't keep any of this. You just loot it. And

once you extract all that stuff, it turns into like

points and then your points you can expend. Expend those

points to upgrade your base. Load up. You get a

bigger backpack. You get like the same guns, but they

have very attachment to it, and you do it again

until like you it's just kind more everything, more diablo,

more of a shooter.

Speaker 2: At this point, Yeah, it's kind of like that.

Speaker 3: It's just to me, it's not a structure sure, because

you don't extract anything. You do shoot, and you do

extract like items just turn into into like money and

other things that you can should only use in this

mode in the ball Breaker to upgrade your ball Breaker thing. Yeah,

I I was having fun, but just because the game

is fun to play, you know, not because the mode

is fun. I wish just once this is finished. I

only I'm only doing it because I kind of want

to see other missions. There are all the computers around

that you can't interact unless you have this key. It

has a little bit of that, you know, Bungee secrecy,

like secret secret missions going on that I haven't done yet.

I need like a crew to do that because they

are a little bit more complicated to play to do

it with Randos. So other than that, I'm not very

fond of this mode. I should just rather play the.

Speaker 2: Yeah, it was never for you, you right, it was

it was like this mode was never. You are someone

who enjoys the extraction stuff like completely, You've played a

lot of it, So yeah, I will be curious to

see what people who have not who like were like

enjoying the aesthetic but didn't quite get into the extraction stuff.

Speaker 3: What they think it had to pick up concurred games,

the players that you know when this come out, So

I think it's doing well. Yeah, so it's also culos

to them to not because my thought it was like

in tarcob the Prevoy em up, it's just the PvP mode,

but the like runners will call it there's just computer.

There's a CPU, right, Okay, it's the same game. And

in Bunchie when they did the extra work to make

it like an actual like different mode with different things

going on. So like, kudos to them for doing that,

especially in the situation they are, you know, it's right.

Speaker 2: I'll be curious to see how they sort of expand

on that because it sounds like they said this was

a successful test, they're going to do it some more.

So Okay, yeah, so that's it all right, thanks Christian. Yep, absolutely, Uh, Mike,

I think there's just a couple of super chats. Let's

hit those. Yes, uh, yeah, you're right, just a couple

of them. First from Jedi Moss. The whorre's credits I

recently got was Octopad zero, which Rolle credits at fifty hours.

The game kept going another fifty hours and rolled it again. Yeah,

there's a few RPGs to do that, at least the

ones I know. It's always kind of like a stunt

in some ways. Maybe it's like sometimes it's maybe an

off ramp for people, like, hey, that was a lot

if you don't, you know, maybe want to say ei

the rest of us consider that at the end of

the game, right, I can think of what I won't

say it in case it's a spoiler for people. Yeah,

I can think of one that's like that. Sure, yeah, absolutely,

and felks for Tuna says I'm pairing Densha Attack with

my first playthrough of dms C three. It's perfect. What

games would you pair a playthrough the Gallic Lis?

Speaker 3: Oh?

Speaker 2: Interesting? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not sure

think about it like that, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, right,

those games both have some vibes to them, I suppose, right, And.

Speaker 1: I'm like trying to think, like, okay, yeah, because the

mechanics of one kind of feel good for the other.

But for me, it's like I get so into the

way one game works, even if they're very similar but

slightly different, I feel like I would trip over myself, So, yeah,

this is tough.

Speaker 2: ConA Nekasama says for the fum Fantasy fourteenth fans, what

do you think about fashion? This is the new tank

job that they announced that the fan faest it's an

I got two giant shields. I'd also have cannons on them.

Speaker 3: Cool.

Speaker 2: It looks there's a part of me that's like, but

they're doing a lot of jobs now that aren't even

like remotely inspired by classic mom fancy jobs, even though

there may be a few of those out there. Something

I'd like to see like one of those show up,

but still neat idea for a tank It definite seems

to differentiate itself from the other ones.

Speaker 3: For a long while, you feel like they needed that,

Like they kind of like forced to do all like

classic Final Fantasy jobs for some reason, and now they're

like deviating a little bit. I kind of want to

see what they come up that the fourteen team, what

they can come up with that's their own, you know.

Speaker 2: And this guy is like he's inspired by a character

from like the original Realm Reborn, right there was a

guy kind of had this setup, so there's a precedent

for it, But yeah, I think it looks neat. I'll

definitely try. I'm not going to start rowing tank as

my main job or anything. So yeah, all right, that's

it cool, Thank you, Mike. Thanks Christian. Let's see here

we did that, so I think we can get in

the show. Right. Yeah, we're done.

Speaker 3: We've done.

Speaker 2: I had the button show right now.

Speaker 3: That's a beautiful music.

Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for watching, Thank you for listening. We

do love you.

Speaker 1: We really appreciate you tuning in. Mike, go ahead, and no,

I think I I love him even more. We will

be back with new episode the next week. Yeah, what

is today?

Speaker 3: Was it?

Speaker 4: Mean?

Speaker 1: Come on, I've never been in that, Mike, and I

tell people where they can find you. Where you're gonna

plug your other shows?

Speaker 2: Do all that? Sure? Actually, my brothers are coming over

like right now, so we can do a nineties Disney.

We're gonna be learning about Chris's recent road trip where

he went to some parks, including that new University Kids

Park in Texas. Als went to Dollywood. So very excited

to learn about Dollywood from Chris. Talk to him about

these travels and we'll see what he was up to. Fantastic.

How much time will you spend talking about being stuck

in Chicago.

Speaker 3: I tried out to Born.

Speaker 2: So the only thing I think that is permanent to

the Disney crowd is my tea keybar experience. Yes, probably

bring that up up trees a mystery. I don't know.

I am a million percent on your side about not driving,

Like I never like what people were.

Speaker 1: Suggesting, Like I guess, like I think a lot of

people weren't there with you, like recognizing you were leaving

on the Red Eye, like they weren't considering all the.

Speaker 2: Factors, Like that was crazy. It's just that it's a lot.

It's a lot to rent the cars not so easy thing.

Speaker 1: Right, you were gonna need to sleep before you sleep

before you were going to drive. And if you're gonna

do that, the flight is right there the next day,

you would still be home faster getting on that flight.

Speaker 2: I don't think it would have saved any time. Really.

It's just like at this point, you know what, I'm

going to go to the hotel that they're going to

pay for at least and sleep and that's fine. Uh.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been a bad idea. I would

not have done it if I were in your shoes,

So thank you. Yeah, I am going to be on

you p F tomorrow with Mike. We're going to be

playing a party game. You know, I think we can

actually just say what we're doing.

Speaker 2: Let me, I know what the name of that thing

is probably doing.

Speaker 3: I don't know.

Speaker 4: It.

Speaker 2: Download it.

Speaker 1: It's it's that weird like party game where it's kind

of looks like a PS one horror game as well.

Speaker 2: I can't remember they don't you call me? Yeah? You

heard me by everybody got you next time? I love you,

good buddy Machine party. That is what it's coming, Thank you, God,

damn it. Crados is coming. Crados is is coming. You know, like,

suck those heads. So I sucked them and there's a

lot of good juice in there. It was pretty good.

Speaker 3: You really favored that one recently.