E1743: Samuel Morse Birthday, Auctions and $350+ of Giveaways!
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Speaker 1: Sh h.
Speaker 2: Right now, all right, good evening, Happy Monday. We're gonna
get started here in just a minute. Welcome everyone from
him Nuggets. T O's stream, which is a multi casting
we'll get into that here in a second, and we're
gonna do some giveaway tonight, so hang on, it's gonna
be a fun ride. All right, that's show seven o'clock guys.
Let's see, we're going to uh, We're gonna just hop
right into it here because I've got Frank and t
O with me. What's up, guys, how do you how
do you all alive?
Speaker 3: I'm alive. I'm a live, I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm alive.
I haven't done it on this channel.
Speaker 2: Yet, so yeah, well okay, yeah, that was my other
channel last time. So I guess I guess that's fair.
I guess that's fair. So okay, uh okay, okay, so
multi casting t O. Be sure to share your uh
the link to your stream in the chat here or
in my chat. Do you have my? Do you have my?
Speaker 4: I have to go get yours. I have to bring
yours up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so or send it to Frank and have
Frank share. So Frank share, the share the stream to
the link to my stream of his chat and the
link to his stream in my chat.
Speaker 3: So I don't have both streams up yet.
Speaker 2: Oh come on, what didn't have to be.
Speaker 3: First time I had Jason's by I usually closed the
video just to save a little right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't blame you. There, I
don't blame you there.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, I give me.
Speaker 4: Getting that ready. What we are doing is we are
live streaming. So Jason is hosting the stream software stream
surface air on OBS on his computer. He's got me
coming into his computer via zoom, and then Obs is
wrapping all that up in the pretty wallpaper scene that
you see where he's over there and I'm right here
front and center, and then that is going to restream,
and then restream is going between the two of our channel.
So you can watch on Jason channel Ham Radio two
point zero and on my channel temporarily offline, that's actually
the name. It is currently actively online. And I am
in the chat over on his stream. I'm going to
drop in a comment of my link for everybody. You
have to explain that you know, this is actually a
really cool story I have had that persona since two
thousand and six. What I did was I used to
run an Internet data center and ISP type situation. I
hosted servers and websites and stuff for people, and then
I sold that in two thousand and six after about
six years of running it. And it's still that company
is still going strong, which is pretty cool that that,
you know, that still exists. But I was at that
time temporarily offline. I had no web server, I had
no email server, I had no data center, I had
no internet connection. I had nothing but Gmail. And then
YouTube came about a couple of years later, and I,
you know, just used my Gmail account because that's what
you literally have to do. So open up the link
to Jason stream. If you're on my channel, open up
the link to my stream. If you're on Jason's channel,
Mute whichever one you want to mute, watch whichever one
you want to watch, and then go on to my
channel and make funny comments about how Jason's, you know,
a lunatic, and then go on his channel and make
funny comments about how I'm a lunatic. And we're just
gonna have some fun doing this. This is a pre
show warm up, so we got about a half an
hour to kill here, and we thought this might be
an interesting technology to explore. Jason, what is your show
at the half hour mark? The half past mark.
Speaker 2: So so this was this entire idea tonight was Gigabarts's idea.
It is not let's make a deal. Some people thought
it was Alex making deal. Well I heard that from
at least one or two other people today, also including
my wife. My wife's like, so they're already doing another one.
I was like, no, no, no, we're just doing just because
I stream with gigabarts. Does it let's make a deal,
although that would be cool, So no, it's not let's
let's make a deal. Today is officially Samuel Morris's birthday.
That's why we're streaming today. Samuel Morris obviously silent key,
but today is his official birthday. And I don't know
what year he was born. I meant to look that
up and I forgot, so I don't know how old
he would have been today. But gigaparts is auctioning off
and where I'm going to pull this up right here, Steve,
I want to keep you in the Yeah, I'm going
to keep you in my window there.
Speaker 4: This is so, this is actually a national holiday. Also,
I believe Happy Sam Morris Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how national it is, but I've
heard that before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the recurring event. This is right version.
Speaker 2: So Frank, you've got that link.
Speaker 3: This is uh, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Samuel F. B. Morris signed eighteen seventy one als letter
JSA L A inventor of telegraph one one. That's the
that's the name of the auction on even.
Speaker 4: One of one, meaning it's a nique print.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's only one of them, so picture of
them there, sign a certificate of a letter of authenticity
as la a couple other things here. It's obviously it's
up to sixteen hundred and seventy five dollars right now.
I think they started at like three hundred bucks and
maybe maybe two hundred bucks something like that. Anyway, it's
been up for a while. This will end tonight. This
will end in one hour and thirteen minutes today at
eight eighteen pm my local time. This is why we're
doing this tonight. They purposefully set this auction to end
tonight on his birthday, and they want to be in
a livestream for that time. Also, we are going to
be giving away five of these Intellotron practice keys tonight.
They sent me one of these and I open it
up and you need I guess you need external power.
It says five to fifteen volt direct current right there
with a barrel connector. But it doesn't come with a
It doesn't come with a cable, so I guess you
have to be a ham and build your own cable.
Speaker 4: Weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, very strange. But it's got earphone and
external key, so you can even hook an external key
to it and use it to practice if you want
to do it, like an iambic key or something instead
of a paddle key straight padal But Sammy Morris would
be two hundred and thirty five years old today, Frank says,
thanks for Frank.
Speaker 4: So I am. I am furiously looking up a link
to a pre made Anderson powerpole to five five two
five cable on Amazon to drop an affiliate link. I
did like that little black square box thing that you had,
and I want to talk about that too.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, the uh.
Speaker 3: This drop of that link again. Every time I try
to pull it up, its error and then the eBay link.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let me Frank, I'll send it to your discord.
How's that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's try that. It's super long, so yeah,
it takes that out.
Speaker 2: Let me do a share. Let me do a share
from eBay and that automatic shortens it. And that's the linkwork.
That's the link that I shared in my email list.
If you're not on my email list, sign up m
Radio two dot com forward slash email desh sign up.
I think you have a link to that.
Speaker 4: You guys have heard of the cloning problem where you
make a clone of a clone of a clone of
a clone and you get degraded copy and everything. So
Jason's got that little black box which is the toad's
digital interface, and the DI six which is a six
pin Mini DIN connector. But members have seen this, and
I don't know if the restream of the restream of
the restream is going to be able to show. But
there's there's eight little holes in that one instead of
six little holes in that one. And this one here
is currently going out on preview for members. And there
might be an even better clue there where it's got
the name there.
Speaker 2: And literally says the brand name on.
Speaker 4: It, says what that thing is what it's intended for.
So this is a daughterboard that will connect you to
the G one O six radio, the G ninety radio,
and the X fifty one oh five using your existing
Toad's Toad's digital interface and the toad shell that Freddie has,
which is the black three D parentted case that it
goes in with Jason's custom call sign on it. Mine
is packed for my trip to Dayton already because I'm
leaving tomorrow morning to do around the around the country
trip to get myself up to Dayton. But if you
are over on my stream, I have some housekeeping I
need to do on my side. I can't bring them
up on Jason stream because they're on my stream and
this is his studio. It's weird how technology works. Just
roll with it. So W nine E J L eg L.
That is Robert Monday. Robert's going to be at ham
ham Benson. I always get him. I always sam backwards.
He's going to be at ham Benson and he's going
to have some stickers of his own. So if you
find him, or you come by either the Performance z
Raise booth out by the MCom Vehicle section, or if
you come by my booth I'll be working the radiotity booth.
You might be able to pick up some of his
stickers as well. Thank you very much for the membership milestone.
This is your use it or lose it membership milestone day,
so use it or lose it. We currently have at
least three people testing, and I'm not sure which level
of testing they're doing, if they're doing their first technician
test or if they're upgrading to general or extra, but
we will hopefully get the results on that here very soon.
And we do this is the fourth Monday of the month,
we do a testing session. Remote testing session through Glard
Greater Los Angeles Area Amateur Radio Group I think is
what that stands for. But it's online testing and you know,
very easy way, very low pressure wig and a lot
of times if you don't make it the first time,
we'll let you take it a second time and a
super low stress environment. Nobody's there judging you. We all
turn our cameras off while you do your thing, because
that's actually one of the requirements. And we can do
online testing. And Frank, if you have a link for that,
please drop it on my stream. Maybe get people to
go back over to my side. And comment over there.
Chavez member for three months, Thank you very much. Hello
all Frank used or lose it for April, thank you
for your membership milestone. And then last week, if you
guys recall, we did the Wise thirty forty PC. This
is an old corporate secondary throw offf thin client machine
that's got an Intel I'm a processor in it. I'm
going to share out the results of the benchmarking of
that because I ran the benchmarks and that took the
better part of like half a day to do, and
I got the benchmarks on screen right now. These are
some of the machines that I have benchmarks that have
come through my hamshack. And this is CIS bench which
is a little bit of an outdated benchmark, but that's
where I've got some of my Raspberry Pie benchmarks. So
I wanted to make sure that I put it in
the right lineup and you can see that the Dell
Wise thirty forty machine, it's an Atom X five. It's
a quad core. I don't know what the X five means,
running at one point nine to two gigahertz, two gigs
of RAM and an eight gig internal eMMC drive. And
that one scored a sixteen to forty five on the
CPU benchmark, which puts it faster than a Pie zero
but slower than the Innovado Quadra that we all know
for ham use and same for the memory was a
little bit faster than the quadra, but not quite as
fast as a Pie four. And the disc speed actually
matters because this comes with a disc where the Raspberry
pie doesn't, so numbers are there. And then I also
ran my newer benchmark, which is stress NG, and that
compares a bunch of different machines, So I rend that
on the PI zero w for my APRS group chat
pap that I was playing with, and then I ran
it on the Pi four and according to stress NG,
the dell wise thirty forty performs better than the Pie four.
And the reason for the difference in the benchmarks is
because stress ng actually does multicore multi threaded work, where
I believe sus bench only does single core. So it's
kind of, you know, not a fair comparison in that regard,
but you can see, I guess it doesn't faster. I
just have it in the wrong place in the lineup.
So forty two, nine and forty six don't math on
stream folks, versus the PI four at one hundred and
six fifty nine, But it is faster than the PI zero,
which is just a single core machine. And then so's
that's kind of where it stacks up. So the Pie
four is still probably a better contender. And some of
the problems that I had, I'll stop the screenshare now.
Some of the problems that I had and getting the
benchmarks working were that it's not terribly easy to get
all the installs running properly. So I installed Debian on it,
and Debian couldn't find the internal disc. It ran fine
from the USB flash drive, so it ran final on
the machine. And if I did a bunch of a
lot of extra work, that really isn't worth it for
a twenty dollars computer to do. You know. It's like,
it's more worth my time to spend that time building
out my application and getting my APRS note up and running,
or my wind link machine up and running, or my
all Star repeater up and running than it is for
me to try and figure out drivers for a machine
that's going to, you know, disappear off the planet here soon.
And that's the cool part about Raspberry pies is they
still have a very long tail supply chain. They're still
making the Raspberry Pie threes and fours, so you'll be
able to get them for a long time. They are
technically outdated, but they're not, you know, unable to be
purchased brand new in the supply chain. So that's pretty cool. Jason,
you can come back anytime. You and Frank.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I mean, well Frank was he was there
in the background.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: It looks like I gotta say, I'm pretty proud. I
am pretty proud. But we have a crashed eBay. I
mean we've crashed We've crashed the pac Tena website before.
I think we've we've crashed Giga parts and let's deal stream,
We've done that a couple of times. I've never crashed
eBay before. I gotta say, I'm I'm pretty impressed with
myself right now. And to you, I think I think
you had a large hand in that too. I mean,
you be here, had to have something to do with it.
So so I don't know what the hell is going
on with this freaking eBay stream. But it is like
Frank can't even get to the homepage.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we've got one hundred people watching on my side.
According to my analytics, I got.
Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety three people people watching over here.
So guys, what we would request of you, guys, all
of you, is, if you're watching me, open the link
to t O's stream on a second tab and mute
it so that you're not hearing echo or double but
just let it play. That way, he gets to watch time.
And if you're if you're watching on t O stream,
do the same thing. Open me and mute me on
another tab. That way, you've got it running on two
different tabs, which you're only listening to one of them.
Listen to whatever one you want to. It's gonna be
the same.
Speaker 3: But on y'all's respected chats. Now, I'm just gonna add
one other thing. Go ahead and subscribe alls on over
at take Radio.
Speaker 4: I see what you did there. Yeah, I got some
more uh oh, the war has begun. I got some
more housekeeping. Ken w one k A L says I'm
with t O. Happy birthday to mister Morse, And I
don't know if he's with me for saying happy birthday
or if he is with me and uh not watching
your stream.
Speaker 2: Jason, I don't uh, you know, that's one thing I
wish there was a way to tie the chats together,
but it doesn't seem to entertie the chats together even
though I'm sharing my stream to your channel. So maybe, uh,
I will I will research that next time. Maybe, but
we'll see. It's fine.
Speaker 4: This was a very very last minute thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was so.
Speaker 4: And then Chavez member for two months, says hello, all,
thank you Shavez.
Speaker 2: James.
Speaker 4: James picked up one of these Zigu daughter boards, the
di I eight because it's got eight pins. We name
stuff very di I Digital Interface eight eight pins. And
then so he got one of those and got it
early access because he's a member. Nugget's gone wild tonight.
Thank you, James. And then Frank says, user to lose
it again. Liberty Cave says twelve dollars, thank you very much.
He actually said nothing except for the thing there, So
I will accept that. I will accept silence in the
form of a super chat all day long. Helo dev
says crazy member for ten months, Jody, our friend from
the North, the Great White North, Jason TiO and all
the rest of us are all lunatics. That is true. Well,
and then Ham till it hurts. We love Samuel Moose
Morse or less. I get that, I get jokes.
Speaker 2: KB five U t Y earlier said uh Ham Radio
two point I was a total weirdo, which I guess,
you know, I mean, he's not wrong. I just wondered
what prompted that. You know, you gotta wonder where did
that come from?
Speaker 3: David?
Speaker 2: But no, that's fine. I mean, so it's because because
I'm on nuggets tonight. I mean everybody has nuggets A
little bit strange.
Speaker 4: Of course, we identify tightly with each other as a
very group of of I don't know why I'm trying
to I'm looking at what Frank says. Frank says that
two people have passed tentatively based on the chat. We
haven't gotten the actual official result in yet, but two
out of three people the tested tonight have passed. And
I know the person who didn't, and I am sorry
that you didn't pass, but he was going for extra
and the extra when I took it was seven hundred
questions in the test pool, and you only you know,
out of that fifty you don't know which fifty, but
out of that fifty were the ones that they gave you.
And that's a hard test. Yeah, and some of those
questions are like one word different and that changes the answer,
and it's a it's a meaningful difference.
Speaker 3: I dislike. I dislike how like Pickyl the getting on
that extra test.
Speaker 4: To me.
Speaker 3: To me, I think it should be more about the
bands and stuff like that, and we need to take
some of the technical prowess off of it, because not
every extra operator is going to be needed to know
how to design circuit boards and other well.
Speaker 2: But that's kind of what the extra is for, though,
so you can upgrade yourself and learn better stuff. And
you know, I'm totally cool with that with the technician test,
but I I don't mind the extra and I'm not
an extra. I'm a general and I've been studying kind
of here and there, not very harderly, but you know,
it's it's I don't mind it being harder. It's a
hell of a lot easier. All of the tests are
hell of a lot easier today than they were thirty
years ago when I got my first license. Absolutely put
it that way.
Speaker 4: So there we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for joining the membership. Yes, appreciate the
n five cel. I think that was thanks for the membership.
I I didn't do a shout out to YouTube channel
members tonight, but I'll do that here. Shortly. I was
kind of given to that this is a this is
the regular hand nudget nugget stream, so we uh I
wanted to give over there. Yeah exactly, Yeah, So come.
Speaker 4: Over to my channel and subscribe if you have it already,
it's fine and it's free. And Craig W five CBW says,
one tech, one general and one extra testing, so we
should have a new tech and an upgrade. And then
good evening folks from Vern member for forty three months,
and then Pat member for five months. Got to get
that Zigo board. Yes you do, Pat, We will ship
it out to you tomorrow. On our drive up to Minnesota.
We will stop by the post office just for you
if you order one today, if you order one tomorrow,
will stop somewhere else on the way to Minneapolis because
it's going to be a two day drive. And then
Kelly Hi, Kelly, Kelly says, good evening member for sixteen months,
and Hamman CT says, an accessory for my G ninety.
And then Dave I'm waving to Dave because Dave's literally
like right there on the other side of the camera.
I don't mean that like metaphorically in the stream sense.
I mean that like physically, he is physically sitting about
one hundred feet from me. Remember four eight months, might
as well before it goes away, that's right. And then
Lee remember eight months, says yay, And then peer pressure
member chat. Yeah it's old stank note, thank you, And
we got him one Sunday for his first ever membership
milestone superchat on gym stream and then w four to
em says safe travels, thank you very much, and then
my chat just jumped, Thank you YouTube. I know there's
some more in there. Let me see if I can
find out where I was. This is the cool part
about the membership milestones. The chat goes crazy with him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there are we Yeah. Bill, Bill Hamry of
Tectonics just showed up. What's up Bill?
Speaker 4: Alrighty, Bill, there it is. That's hot. Bill. Save room
for the pie p I I like that badger and
n member for eighteen months.
Speaker 2: His new name is mister kill.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I have not seen Bill and a kilk,
but I bet that would be hot.
Speaker 2: That's because you did go to the More Expo this year,
so put that. Never know what you're going to see
at an overland show.
Speaker 4: I wish I could highlight this, Frank, can you drop
a link for boondock Echo boondock Echo. Mark has challenged
us to crash his web server with a five dollars
super chat, so we'll drop his link to the boon
doc echo. If you don't know what the boon doc
Ecko is, the easiest way to describe it is a
ham radio answering machine. You plug it into your bowfang
via a K connector and it listens to the local
repeater or whatever channel you happen to have it on.
If you have your bowfang on scan, it'll listen to
everything the balfang hears, and then it will record it
locally and also optionally, optionally I think, uploads it to
the cloud where it gets processed via AI and then
it'll read out things like call signs, and it'll send
you an alert if your call sign gets mentioned somebody
might be talking to you, and then you can pick
up your regular radio after getting a text message that
somebody was trying to get a hold of you. You
can come back home later and you can see what
all the people have been talking about on the repeater
that you manage and kick off the people who were,
you know, being rude. So it's boondock Echo is the device,
and hopefully you will crash his site.
Speaker 2: I I want to say that I had one of
those a few years ago. Did But I know he's
made a lot of up and I know he's made
a lot of updates to it lately, so I might
want to look at I wonder if Mark and his
team are going to be at hmvention next month. Mark,
he was in my live stream chat last week and
he was also in my premiere chat today for a
videoy premiere today.
Speaker 3: So breaking news, breaking news. The eBay site is back up.
Oh it's back and I just dropped the link.
Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you, Frank. Wait, that's a.
Speaker 3: Bad copying paste. Oh, bad copy and paste.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what it looks like in the way.
Fifty six minutes and fifty one seconds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, we got about nine minutes left on
my side of the stream here and then uh K
y four t r k sas thanks y'all. Remember for
two months hast WB nine b L a member for
seven months. Good evening, y'all. Jerry Bowden, I might have
pronounced that wrong. That's on me, remember for twenty months
and then Radio Wayne, Texas. I am watching both streams.
Is this stereo vision if you have it on the
on two different screens and you put a blinder between
your eyes so you get some some some ocular separation,
and then wear headphones quadraphonic headphones, which is what James
had just said. That's what I'm doing, buff but in
off stereo, says Stephen le Blanc. Remember for thirty four months,
got my boards last week now waiting for mini din cables.
That's Marvin nt N ninety d N ninetde South Dakota hamguy.
And uh it's all it's all one word because YouTube
has decided to use short handles instead.
Speaker 2: Of full handlest I know, it's still annoying. Well, South
Dakota guys should be unique enough. There's only like three
of them up there, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I recognize Marvin because he's got Grogu as his avatar. Also,
it's funny that I shipped faster than Amazon. Yup, that
might be a South Dakota let's see, because it just
off the shelf, Yeah, drop it in the postal mail.
These just use off the shelf cable. So this one
here is the zygoo board and it uses an eight
pin Mini DIN cable which is either Apple Desktop Bus
or it is Apple Talk and I don't remember because
I wasn't the Apple guy at that time in my life.
And the Mini DIN six is actually a PS two
keyboard cable, So you might actually already have one of
these cables, depending on which way you leaned back in
the day when you were experimenting in college. We're not
talking about those days, right, And then Shulty Shulty says
number for eleven months, Thank you Shulty. And then I
got an update from Frank on the testers. Let's see.
Speaker 2: Stereo streams. Chad says, yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone's complaining that we're not talking about Samuel Morse
and then that I guess they just misunderstood the assignment.
This is the hand luggage stream a half an hour
before that. This is the warm up show. We've given
him a little homage.
Speaker 2: But yeah, to be fair, we have more people watching
now than we did twenty minutes ago. So thank you
for joining, Thank you for joining. Uh yeah, we crashed
eBay already, So we have an accomplishment for tonight, yes,
and I'm yes, we will. We will be diving. I've
got a couple of guys waiting from the South Georgia
d Expedition in the waiting room of the Zoom right now,
and we will be diving into Morris Code here in
about seven minutes at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 4: And we've got now probably to do his thing. Yeah,
and we're off the charts with membership milestone. So I'm
still reading probably PODA and zero U r B. Why
don't they ask medical questions on the extra test. That's
kind of like how they ask airport runway marker questions
on the drone pilot exam test where you will never
be allowed to land a drone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, talking about medical stuff, man, my surgery
that was pretty good, awesome.
Speaker 4: Which would you get surgery for? Oh, I guess I
shouldn't ask that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm open about it. For a bit. I got
knee surgery a couple of weeks ago. So most of
April my channel's been running on the pre schedule stuff.
But I'm back, And that's that's the joke of I'm
alive because I'm streaming through the U through April.
Speaker 4: Get us up there on triple play, Jason, triple play. Yeah,
because I keep talking over Frank while Frank's like divulging,
like I was under the knife, and I'm like, okay,
well always appears off.
Speaker 3: I was just making fun of, you know, the old
medical stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we could go eighty meters on ham nuggets,
I guess, but no, I was trying to let you
do it t O.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still going here. We uh David KD nine
w T a member for thirty months. Thank you, Chris,
remember for twenty four months. Thanks for all you do
for the hobby. Thank you for being a member. And
we've got don would don have to say I will
give this stream a five nine nine because the right
Frank is on the score.
Speaker 2: Oh, the original Frank, the original.
Speaker 4: Technically Frank number one, which I guess that makes the
other Frank number two. Kevin says, Happy Morse Day. As
I previously mentioned, I did an all CW PODA activation today. Awesome,
twenty two QoS including a DX park to park with Portugal.
Have we crashed the boondock echos site yet? And Mark
second doesn't take much to crash the site, and he says,
we are, and then it jumped again, and then Ronnie
says it was a great test session, finest group. Ronnie
was one of the testees. That's that's testes, not testes
EO D kaboom remember for five months. And he says
space because apparently there's some space stuff happening right now
as well that we're competing with, which is hard for
this crowd. Do we do we do a Samuel Morse giveaway?
Do we talk about Boondock Echo, do we talk about sense,
do we talk about testing? Or do we go watch rockets?
Speaker 3: Well, the the the rocket Falcon Heavy was scrub today,
so I think it's going to be back tomorrow. They
usually do a twenty four hour reset and.
Speaker 4: I reached it. I think I reached all the membership
milestones and super chats on my side, which is perfect timing.
We've got like four minutes left before we switch over.
So oh no, there's one Jimmy p r K Radio.
He just joined as a member. Welcome Jimmy. I thought
you already were a member. Maybe you remember of that
other channel that we stream on on Sundays, Rude Rude, Yeah,
let's see what we got. One past, one failed, and
one was postponed. Okay, so that is the results of
the test, which was the who was the one that passed?
We won't. We won't ham shame the ones that failed.
Believe that for q r z.
Speaker 3: Ed that's me.
Speaker 4: I'm here.
Speaker 2: Feel free to start again.
Speaker 4: Okay, we will. And the way that we start again,
it's actually on your side. You go down to the
little red bar underneath and you drag it all the
way to the left.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 4: You're good to go, Brad, Thank you very much, remember
for forty nine months. That's awesome. And uh o rh
our friend Ron who helps us out very much with
our hamcash Poda event says he's glad to be on
both channels with a ten dollars super chats. So maybe
there's one over there on your side, Jason.
Speaker 2: Not yet, not that I see yet.
Speaker 4: Okay, No, shade, Ron.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes a bit to click through stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Troy is the one that passed. Congratulations Troy. Troy
upgraded from tech to general. Congratulations Troy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: Congratulations. That is the major step to enjoy the HF
bands And yes, go out there and play a lot
of poda.
Speaker 4: Julie's here. Welcome Julie.
Speaker 2: Yes, she said that, start poda.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So first radio for a general I mean, I
think that's probably going to be a unanimous G nine
recommendation from everybody in the world.
Speaker 3: No, get something a little bit more power, because the
G nine day is nice, but you're not. You're gonna
have a lot of the Evans filters and things, and
at some points it gets a little frustrating.
Speaker 2: What's your budget, That's what I always ask.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's your budget too, Yeah, I mean buy
no budget, what's the best one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my budget. I always tell people, buy the most
expensive radio that you can afford. And if that's a
twenty five dollars ball thing, then okay, But by the
most expensive radio you can afford, because you're gonna want
to upgrade it at some point anyway. So what's your budget.
Figure that out and then go from there.
Speaker 4: And your first radio is not your last radio.
Speaker 2: That's sure.
Speaker 4: Your first radio won't even be in your last fifty radios.
Speaker 2: Right, uh yeah, okay, So there's a woh there's run
W four RH run super Chat, Thanks buddy.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Ron. There was no shame in that. I
was just I thought you were the kind of person
that would have done that, and apparently I was right.
You're awesome, Ron. I keep looking over here at the chat,
which is not where my camera is.
Speaker 2: Alright, so we have minute to.
Speaker 4: My budget is five thousand dollars for just the radio?
Is that bad?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Don, you have earned that to have all of your
coworkers were having to put up with you.
Speaker 3: Hey, Don, we're friends, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Donald, just give you one of his older radios that
he's tired of. Don gave.
Speaker 2: Don gave Frank an all Star NOE that he's never used.
So I don't think Don should give Frank anything until that's.
Speaker 4: That Frank has never used. Not that Don has never used.
Speaker 2: Correct, right, that Frank has never used.
Speaker 3: It's been well inside and well loved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and never on there.
Speaker 4: That's that's the second best all Star note you can
get only because I make an interface to make your
own all star. So I have I have to kind of, like,
you know, love my own baby. It would be wrong
if I love someone else.
Speaker 3: I might need to do one of those live streams
so I can get it back on the air. I'm
afraid I need to like run tons of update scripts
to get it actually working.
Speaker 4: Actually, just start with a brand new SD card straight
from scratch and it'll support that and nothing to upgrade
because all Star has changed a lot. So I had
a video on making an all Star node like literally
and it's already changed, already changed since then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it also depends on which board you're using.
The repeater builder board is going to be different than
sherry Pie hat is going to be different than some
other stuff as well.
Speaker 3: So his thales break in my heart. He says, no
more cigars until I get it up at all.
Speaker 2: Oh that's too bad. All right, I'm gonna bring our
guests in and they have graciously agreed to join us,
Steve and Violetta. Violetta. Violetta, how do I How do
I say that? Yeah, VIOLETA, good evening. How are you
guys doing tonight?
Speaker 6: I'm doing well. How are you?
Speaker 2: Oh we're good. We're just uh, we're doing ham radio stuff,
which is to say that we're talking about meaningless information
that that nobody cares about. Say, we're just ad libbing
for the last half hour. So good evening. How How
so you guys were with VP zero SG correct correct? Okay,
So for those and and when what what was the
date on that?
Speaker 5: It's next March, March twenty seven.
Speaker 2: It's coming up then, okay, okay, so yeah, okay, okay,
so uh and that's South Georgia D Expedition VP zero SG.
So you guys in that have Hamlert put VP zero
SG and your Hamlert so that you can get notified
when they go on the air, because that would be
a really cool DX contact to make. So yeah, thanks
for joining tonight. It was Gigabarts's idea to bring you
guys on. I appreciate the time tonight. If you guys
have anything you want to talk about, please feel free.
It's very very shoot, we're very casual here. Just whatever
you want to talk about, that's cool. So we're going
to talk about some c w stuff. We're gonna give
away a couple of c wts from Gigabarts and just
we just kind of do it shoot from the hip style.
So that's us by I let her do you want
to start out?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 6: I was invited on the South Georgia D Expedition a
couple of months to go back in December, so I'm
one of the newer additions to the team. But like
Steve said, it'll be March of twenty twenty seven. Yeah,
we'll be on the island. The plan is for about
two weeks and yeah, the goals just just to make
as many contacts as we can. We'll be on all modes,
so sideband, digital, CW of course, and I think all
bands except six meters is.
Speaker 7: The plan right now?
Speaker 2: Good? Excellent? You do CW yourself.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 6: Not really, I'm still learning.
Speaker 2: I'm still learning. I am still learning myself. So it's
totally cool. You don't have to do CW to be
on this live stream. It's okay.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well I'll say I love CW and I'm kind
of on my Hammer Radio two point zero career. I
was licensed in seventy five and active through kind of
graduate school when I sort of went into professions and
had kids and did all those things. And then when
I retired a couple of years ago, I had a
friend who got me back into it and now it's
what I do most of my time with and so
I did the CW Oppos Advanced CW course. And if
you're going to upgrade your CW skills, I highly recommend
those courses because it took me from not zero but
maybe twenty to seventy miles per hour, you know, and
words permit it pre darn quickly.
Speaker 5: And it's interesting just a little bit about the trip.
Speaker 8: It's being led by most of Europeans. There's three Norwegians
that were veterans of the three y zero j trip
to Bouvet a few years back, and so they were
looking for people late last year and I immediately reached
out and I thought, Man, if you're gonna go to
a cold place and you're being led by Norwegians, it's
a good idea, so.
Speaker 2: Good way to look at it.
Speaker 8: So it's all you people, Violin and I are the
only Americans. My sense is, uh, and not to be
disparaging about FT eight, but most of us are are
s reluctantly going to operate FT eight. And I think
a lot of people want to operate CW and sideband,
and so I think there's a lot of hardcore CW
operators on the team from what I can tell.
Speaker 4: Are you going to be doing Fox and Hound FT eight?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Do you want to take that one?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 6: I think so I'm not one hundred percent sure, but
I'm assuming that's what we'll do. I was on a
trip to the North Cooks in October of last year,
and that was really my first time doing a lot
of FT eight. I was kind of familiar with it before,
but not really didn't do any like serious operating with it,
And to be honest, I was kind of dreading it.
I was like, Okay, everyone has to do their you know,
has to do their shrift on FT eight, so it's
going to come at some point. But I do got
to say after like eight hours of a sideband pile
of but FT eight is actually pretty nice.
Speaker 3: It's relaxable. All you gotta do is like click and
wait a minute.
Speaker 2: But I would imagine that I would imagine that side
sideband's got to be the most challenging one, right, I mean,
FT eight is probably pretty easy, and CW is a
low noise mode as well, So I would imagine that
you're probably going to make more contacts with CW and
FT eight than you would with sideband, especially especially because
you you have to talk so much with sideband. I've
done that. I've worked by lips for twelve hours a
day on a D expedition. So I know what that's like.
So anybody who go ahead, I'm sorry, Oh go ahead.
I was just going to show where South Georgia was.
So people are asking where they're going. Where they're going. South
Georgia and South Sandwich Islands are right here in the
middle of the ocean. You can't tell where it is,
but if you zoom out, there's Africa right there.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, a peanut butter and jelly Africa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, South America right there, right next to Argentina and
just west of South Africa. So there it is, right there,
that itty bitty spot on the South Atlantic Ocean between
South America and Africa. So pretty cool.
Speaker 3: What's your website? Real fast? To make sure I got
it right.
Speaker 5: Uh, it's ard.
Speaker 8: Uh D Expeditions. It's ard ar D Expeditions. So a
r D Expeditions dot com slash the Expeditions, slash VP
zero s G.
Speaker 5: Did you get that?
Speaker 2: Got that, Frank, geez?
Speaker 3: If you could drop it in our zoom chat, I'll
definitely share that to every so everyone can find that
cool cool beings.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I think to your point, Jason, the U
for the operator, certainly c w n F T eight
is a lot more zen and he's you're having done
side bent or you know, phone contest boy. You know,
at the end of forty eight hours, you're you're just cooked.
And then I also think on the other end, you know,
for the people trying to reach us again, trying to
work as c W or f T, a pile up
is a lot less stressful than than basically trying to
yell into your your computer, your transceiver for a couple
of hours, we're trying to break the pile up.
Speaker 5: Al vio let, I got the QR code up there, so.
Speaker 2: There we go. So scan the QR with Frank if
you can see if you can do that.
Speaker 3: Uh, we got it. The other other Frank found and
got the leak. We got it spread out, got.
Speaker 2: Youa okay, excellent, Thank thanks guys. Okay, they're asking about
and I will admit ignorance on this one. They're asking, says, uh,
South Georgia has Shackleton's grave on it and they want
to know if you're going to follow his path, and
I I must admit I don't know who they're talking about.
So you guys have an value who that is?
Speaker 3: Jason?
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was okay, isn't he the guy that did
Antarctica or en evest or something Antarctica? Okay, first, guess
what's right Antarctica?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: Can I take this one? By Letta?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I go for it.
Speaker 8: So there's lots of books written on Shackleton, but Endurance
is my favorite one. It was written by a journalist
and it's a very easy read and it's probably one
of the greatest tales of survival.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 8: These guys were just another brew. So Shackleton during World
War One basically wanted to cross Antarctica and they took
a wooden sailboat and they were going to go and
land in Antarctica and take dogs and sleds across Antarctica
to the other side.
Speaker 5: So what could go wrong?
Speaker 3: Everything?
Speaker 5: So it did. So they ended up.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm going to ruin the book for you,
you know, spoiler alert. But the ship got ice locked,
it got it sunk, and they basically made their way
to a place where they ended up on an island,
and they took there they would drag their boats with them,
and so they ended up taking a boat across open
ocean from Antarctica to South Georgia Island and where three
of them left the rest of the people and they
climbed these mountains to the other side where there were
these whaling villages. And some years later, like ten twenty
years ago, some professional mountain climbers climbed over these mountains
and they had all the gear and whatever, and I
think these guys like they.
Speaker 5: Didn't have shoes, and they had like a fifty.
Speaker 8: Foot line and a and an ice pick or something.
And so anyway, they ended up making too the whaling village,
and then they went back and got all their crew
and all of them survived, which is just amazing.
Speaker 5: So Shackleton is buried.
Speaker 8: One we're gonna be operating at one whaling village of
which it's a name in Norwegian name that I cannot pronounce.
And then uh, there'll be another whaling village where Shackleton's
grave is, and we have to check into customs there.
Speaker 5: And the tradition is.
Speaker 8: You go and you drink whiskey over Shackleton's grave and
you drink half of it and then you pour the
other half on his grave as a toast to the boss.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, that's that's that's that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: We got it, Frank, We're gonna figure out how we
can overland drive to UH to this island. So we
gotta get you know. I bet there is a fair,
get a fair on a ferry, and then we're gonna
have to go and do some car camping on the island.
That'd be great.
Speaker 3: Well, we need several fairies because you can't go all
the way to South America. That's not a continuing.
Speaker 2: Yes you can. I found an overlanding trail. Not to
get off subject. I found an overlanding trail. People are
left from Florida. They went trans America.
Speaker 3: Want to do in those parts all.
Speaker 2: The way through all the way the whole border of
South America was freaking awesome. So yeah, I know you're right.
I told my wife, I was like, this would be great,
but there would be some parts we'd want to skip.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. But one of my goals is definitely get
to Antarctica.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go there.
Speaker 3: South Georgia is a good step on the way there.
Penguins are amazing. It would be just so cool.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, we're super excited. I mean that not only the.
Speaker 8: Destination from a hammer radio standpoint, but just having a
chance to be on the island for two weeks, you know,
interact with the wildlife and you know, hike the area.
I'm I'm hoping to do some of that and not
be in a tent the whole time.
Speaker 5: But we'll see how it goes. Violet, what do you think?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be quite the journey. Our team
is planning to meet in England and we take a
military flight from London it's either like fourteen or sixteen
hours I don't exactly remember to the Falkland Islands and
then we have the ship least for twenty eight days
and it's about a five or six day boat ride
from the Falklands to get to South Georgia. So we
have twenty eight days to get to the islands, you know,
set up everything on the island, to operate, tear everything down,
and then get back to the Falklands.
Speaker 3: So Steve mentioned tent. Are y'all going to be tent
camping or are you do have are you going to
be staying in some type of hotel or other accommodations.
Speaker 6: The plan right now is we'll have our you know,
old the station set up in the tents and we'll
do all the eating, sleeping, everything else, back and forth
from the ship whenever the weather's good to send the landing.
Speaker 7: Craft in and out.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, So I got I gotta see some I gotta
see some pictures of y'all set up out there. That's
gonna be cool.
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, we're basically the last activation was about ten
years ago and it was successful activation. We're gonna be
in the same site. And this is not the bouvet
where you have to like land on crashing waves onto
a rocky shore. So we're gonna be in this this
very nice harbor that's gonna be protected even when we
have high winds, and we can have like super high
winds there that time, well, anytime of year, but especially
that time of year. And so we're gonna be landing
on like a pebble beach with a zodiac.
Speaker 5: It's very civilized, and so.
Speaker 8: We're gonna be comparatively So we're gonna be operating in
these big tents and then we're gonna be sleeping on
the boat. Theoretically, if everything goes as planned and and
the boat's gonna be you know, reasonably nice, and so
you know, we'll so it's not like like the overlanding.
Speaker 4: That you guys do.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a little more a little more cush
than that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, we take a lot of stuff
to make it cush for ourselves, right, So, but the
TV we take definitely clamp. It's definitely glamping as much
as you can glamp these days.
Speaker 5: So I just learned about overlanding today. Actually I had
to google it.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 8: Oh wow, it's basically like it's like backpacking but with
your pickup.
Speaker 2: Is that I mean, that's yeah, that's yeah. Yeah. People
say when did when did camping become overlanding, and the
answer to that is when you added your vehicle into it.
So yeah, it's just it's just usually vehicle tent camping
or vehicle you drive up somewhere where there's not a
camp site and there's not a park bench, and you
find a place in the woods you can get to
and then you can't set up camp by yourself up
there with a couple of friends or something like that.
Speaker 3: Depends on the trail. There are designated areas for some areas,
but in the majority of the time, you find a
nice place pull off and be like, yes, this is
gonna be it to night, that is it. But each
have their own man like backpacking, uh and the just
the out man. I love it. I love it. There's
no road noise, there's no it's just nature.
Speaker 2: You spoke. Stevie said something about cwops a minute ago.
So I took a CWOPS class in I think it
was twenty twenty one, and I took a I think
it was a two month class every week for like
eight weeks, I think it was, and I thought it
was great. It was it was very informative. The instructor
did very well. I felt like I learned a lot
and I felt like it was beneficial. And then I
just I was wanting to do another part of it,
and I just didn't go back to it. But a
lot of people also recommend Long Island CW Club. So
I was wondering, if you've done that one, and if so,
how you compare the two.
Speaker 8: I have not, and I have heard great things about that,
and I've been to conventions where you know, Longyd CW
Club is there, and so you know, if I was
looking at the different options, if I was looking to
improve my CW skills, I probably would take a look
at both of those courses and comparing contrast and see
which one kind of fit my needs. But you know,
cw OPS is very structured, you know, I think we
met a couple of times a week. There was homework
daily homework, which was you know, voluntary, but it really
made a difference if you did it. And our guy
was so I'm a physician. This guy was a retired
trauma surgeon, and man, he was old school boy. He
just didn't pull any punches. So it was like being
back in medical school in the eighties again. So anyway,
but but you know, I definitely got better and had
a lot of fun with it, and it was good,
so highly and it was free, and so these are volunteers,
very passionate and highly recommended to sort of have a
structured way. If you just do it yourself, you can
do it. But this really moves you ahead very quickly.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you felt if that was the
case for you, Jason.
Speaker 2: I mean I was starting basically from zero, so yeah,
I would agree with that assessment as well. It's I
didn't really know much about what I was doing anyway,
so I learned, I learned kind of how to listen
or which you're supposed to how you're supposed to listen,
which is not how I did it. But and the
homework in the practice was good when you were able
to keep up with it. The problem the mistake I
made was to do I did a January and February session. Well,
February is ordlandohem cation, which I always go to, so
I was out of town for like a whole week
during it, so I missed like two classes. But you know,
it was it was. I thought it was very beneficial.
And I they had a table at a local hamfest.
That's how I learned about them originally in the first place.
And I signed up and took the class, and I
thought it was really good. So if I go back
and do it again, I would I want to try
Long Island CW Club because they have such a good reputation.
But my personal experience with c W apps was a
great one. I would love to do that one again
as well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean CW is your original week signal
no mode, you know. And so when I was licensed
in the seventies, you know, I had a vertical and
one hundred watts and you know, it was all CW
to try to do do DX and so that was
kind of a necessity and and then you could have
a conversation as opposed to you know, the digital modes
and so.
Speaker 5: Right right, although I must say I'm a lot better at.
Speaker 8: Doing a contest mode with CW than I am having
rigged you. I have to drop my words permitt like
ten minute when becau it's not just call signs in
the nine nine year zone or something.
Speaker 5: So yeah, right, true confession.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that makes sense. Mike and Becky have joined
us from the ham Radio duo channel and they are
avid CW photo operators. So how y'all doing good? It's
good sounds okay. Yeah. So I don't know if y'all
have been watching or not, but Mike and Mike or
Steve and Violetta here are going to South Georgia next March,
and uh so you guys put them in your HAMD
alert definitely for sure, so that that'd be it. That'd
be a heck of a contact to make. So maybe
I can learn CW more efficiently before then, I don't know,
probably not, but I can try what.
Speaker 3: Mode would you recommend on someone trying to get that contact?
In their logs. Will it be CW FT eight sideband,
slow stand TV, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah. I if it's like most of the expeditions,
they're going to be doing everything, So whatever band and
propagation and whatever mode you're good at. I would love
to try to get them on sideband, I really would,
but I'm gonna have to find a higher elevation and
point a beam out of my think but challenge accepted.
I might try to do that, but yeah, FT eight,
I dare say FT eight will be the easiest, But
if you're really into CW and used to using it,
that one would probably be easier for you. I would suspect,
but I don't know. It kind of depends on how
many operators. Did you say we're going on the trip?
You two and are the only ones from the USA,
and you said there was some people from Europe.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we'll have up to sixteen operators. It's still
that's what we're having right now. And I think Viola
is at about six stations going and then maybe two
inband stations. But again, I you know, again, it's it's
and I think we saw this with the more recent
Big D expeditions to Bouvet and other places that some
of it just depends on what's open up for conditions,
you know, and we're kind of the spots of dwindling,
and so that may necessitate you know, fewer stations and
more digital and c W thn uh. So I think sideband,
you're probably gonna need a beam and possibly power and uh.
Speaker 5: But I think if you have a modest or or.
Speaker 8: Sort of a small.
Speaker 5: Gun station, then probably f T eight is a good
place to place to start.
Speaker 8: I have a I have a healthy station, and the Macau,
you know, the expedition I was only able to get
with f T eight, so that was.
Speaker 5: That was a tough lift.
Speaker 8: So I think you just kind of see where where
you are and then what's happening. But I mean, we're
gonna try to We've already talked about strategies. We're gonna
try to, you know, give out as many contexts as
possible and make sure we have good, good broad swath
between you know, as many continents as possible, and and
try to really get in people's log books.
Speaker 2: Boy I I I pray for a ten meter opening,
because if ten meters is open, that's in South America
gets loud when is open on Sideband anyway. I assume
it probably does on CW as well. But South America
can be really fun to work when ten meters is open.
But that'd be that'd be what are you guys talking
about people eating penguins in the chat?
Speaker 1: For?
Speaker 2: Come? You let these guys in the chat and you
just you do what you're going to get?
Speaker 3: Whales? You know they're they're whaling over there, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? They better not be. We don't want to start.
We don't need Star Trek four actually happening. So okay,
let's see. Oh yeah, so Frank shared Mike and Becky's
chat in the do you want to channel.
Speaker 3: On the chat show the more so letter auction has
it changed? I don't know. I was just trying to
rehighlight it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it hasn't changed right here. So yeah, so
Gigaparts is auctioning off and it will end in twenty
five minutes, which is one reason that we're one reason
that we're live streaming tonight. Samuel Morris FB. Morris signed
the letter eighteen seventy one, an als letter with a
letter of authenticity, and it's a one of one picture
frame photograph and letter in here. Currently it's sixteen hundred
and seventy five dollars. I think they started it at
like three hundred bucks. I think I think was the price.
So it's gone up by itself that way. It's got
thirty bids right now.
Speaker 4: What als is?
Speaker 2: I was wondering what als is myself? Let's see autograph letter.
Speaker 4: Signed, okay, and then j JSA JSA.
Speaker 2: Yeahs A letter of authenticity includes a James Spence authentication.
Speaker 4: Communicated.
Speaker 2: That's who authenticated it. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: So to be honest with you, even just the framing
alone on that is part of the price. I mean,
if you've ever met a photograph like really done into
a shadow box or something, it's really expensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well this says they started at one dollar reserve. Okay,
I didn't see it. I didn't see it when that
was that low.
Speaker 3: Pull up the profile his profile picture or his.
Speaker 4: Uh legendary beard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the legendary beard. But look at those medals. They
don't do medals like that anymore.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: No, it's like the entire right side of his self
new tab. But that's a beard to expire to.
Speaker 2: There you go, Frank, all you do have to do
is turn gray. Yeah, I mean you're you're almost that,
You're almost that straggling now, been a great night hit
the end stream.
Speaker 4: That's that's a man who's never combed his hair right,
trimmed his eyebrows.
Speaker 2: That's me. I think we're all on our way there.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Does anyone know I still trim my eyebrows? He got
a groom? People show Vin Public.
Speaker 8: Does anyone know Samuel Morse's first profession that he did
before he developed the Morse Code?
Speaker 4: Wasn't he a dentist? I was?
Speaker 2: I think he was a doctor, as what I was thinking,
But I may be wrong. I don't know. Nobody really knows.
We're just gonna guess all night. Go ahead and tell
us he's an artist.
Speaker 5: He was an artist.
Speaker 4: Really, very before he was a doctor dentist.
Speaker 8: No, before he did the Morse Code, he was an artist,
and I think he didn't make money at it, even
though he was very good at it. And because I
was in an art gallery that my daughter works for
in Atlanta and I'm walking there's like a Samuel Morse
painting and I'm like, is this the Samuel Morris?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 4: So over in my chat echo static got it he
said he was an oil painter, and then Grand Admiral
stack Grand Admiral stack Bar said he was a stripper.
I think that was that job. A wire stripper, Yeah,
wire stripper.
Speaker 1: While we're talking Morse trivia, have y'all heard of Vail?
Uh So there's a guy named I don't know.
Speaker 2: The place of Colorado's what I thought of, Go ahead, Mike,
So I.
Speaker 1: Forgot what his full name is. But uh so Samuel
Morse collaborated with Vail to develop Morse Code, and people remember,
uh that Samuel Morse.
Speaker 3: But not really Veil.
Speaker 1: The reason I even know about it is, uh, there's
some practice websites for CW online and one of them
is an open source project called Veil, and uh they
named it after him. So basically, Samuel Morse invented it,
and then Veil heard about it at NYU and then
asked him to join for horses and they became business
partners and Morse Code's initial Morris's initial idea was all numeric,
and Vale's contribution was making it a letter of frequency base,
making it so that the most most frequently used letters
are the ones that are the smallest and shortest, and
making it represent letters instead of of needing a separate
book to look them up.
Speaker 2: Jody says, just like YadA yaggy uda, only the nerds
remember da which is true? That is true. Huh No,
I'd never heard that, Mike. That's cool.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Some good history there.
Speaker 3: Kyle said he seld gutter guards.
Speaker 2: And sold.
Speaker 4: Nice or socks. So the guy selling socks at a
gun show, Yeah, you need them.
Speaker 3: To cover your rifle.
Speaker 9: So here's another question for the chat is what year
and what was the first message.
Speaker 2: Sent by I know what the first I know what
the first message was sent. I know what the answer
thing on?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Now? No? No? The first message
ever sent over telegraph wire was what hath God wrought? Oh,
and I don't remember the year. I want to say
early nineteen hundreds, but that it might be late eighteen hundreds.
I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Hayden first message was please copy five nine.
Speaker 2: It was Kyle's first message that he ever sent to her.
What go ahead?
Speaker 9: I believe it was eighteen forty four.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's earlier than I thought it was. Okay, Well,
Frank says, may have eighteen forty four. Good job googling Frank, congrats. Yeah,
very very good job googling. But yeah, nineteen seventy nine, No,
it wasn't that. But eighteen forty four. Wow, that's earlier
than I thought it would have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, you know, kind of highlighting me. I'll
cool that pieces as a piece of history, and like
being Morse code folks that do hand radio, it's easy
for me to put it in a mental box of
just hand radio instead of thinking about how transformative it
was for the world, people's history in general. And it's
hard to imagine a world before Morse code, to before telegraphs,
when you could have had no way of being able
to get breast, couldn't get messages across the water.
Speaker 8: Yeah, didn't the telegraph put the Pony Express out of business.
Speaker 3: Wasn't sure what was related or positive, But again it
could be a strong competitor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting in a historical context, I mean,
not in a fun context, but it's interesting to listen.
Some guy has retranscribed a video about this. Couple years ago.
Some guys retranscribed the last twenty four or forty eight
hours of the Titanic because that's how the communicated on
off ship They had a Morse Code station on the
boat that you could send messages back instead of making
a phone call or getting on the internet. This is
how they did it. You could send Morse code messages
back to your home, to your family, whatnot, and it
would people would converse that way.
Speaker 3: Morse show was kind of brand new back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I.
Speaker 3: Think Titanic was the first instance of the sos being
sent one of it and adopted. It wasn't officially adopted
across the board.
Speaker 2: Ham Radio was new back then, is a better way
to say it, because it was nineteen twelve or no, nineteen, yeah, twelfth,
nineteen four April April fourteenth, nineteenth, April fifteenth, nineteen twelve.
I get the twelve and the fourteenth confused. April fifteenth,
nineteen twelve, the morning of April fifteen, ninety twelves when
it sank, and that was when the last transmission was sent,
like thirty minutes before you know, they all went down.
So that was from a again from a historical perspective,
it's kind of a neat thing to just kind of
read up about. Not that it's neat that people died,
I'm not saying that. So h historically. Yes, yes, there was.
I'm trying to I've got a picture here somewhere in
my Google photos. There was, like several years ago, there
was a guy. True, that's why I'm not showing it
on screen right now. There was. There was a team
set up at Orlando ham Cation. No, I'm sorry, I
think they were at ham Cason. They were at the
Houston Hamfest though, that's the one I'm thinking of. They
were train operators and they were sett and they had
like the old school conductor train conductor outfits that they
that they were wearing and whatnot. And they had two
or three Morse code stations set up there. And this
was the first time I'd ever heard this. But there's
actually two different types of Morse code. And I don't
know if the second one is called Morse code or not.
But the guy explained, you guys, correct me if I'm wrong,
if you've heard of this. The guy explained it to me,
like the one the dits and DAWs that we know,
there's another one that's used by train services that includes spaces,
like there's a like instead of just waiting in between
words with the space, there's like there's like a character
for a space and I've never heard that before, and
it's it was it was I think I got the
guy on videos somewhere, but it was several years ago.
Speaker 3: Was it? Is it a long like daw doo?
Speaker 2: I don't remember when it was. It was just because
he said he knew both of them, like he tapped
out he tapped out CQCQ and his call sign in
regular Morse code and then he tapped it out in
the train Morse code or whatever they called it. And
American Morris and International Wars. That's it, Frank, Yeah, American
Morse and International mors. So which one do are we
American Morse? I assume we are.
Speaker 7: I think it's international.
Speaker 9: I think the American Morse is the one that has
that you actually pay attention to the spaces mean something
versus right is between characters?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. That was it. That was the first
time I'd ever heard that, And I'm like, that's pretty interesting.
How in the world, I mean, I'm struggling to learn
the real stuff. How would you learn two versions of it?
That's just it was very strange.
Speaker 4: But if you're learning from the beginning, do ultomatic geing.
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, that's probably a good idea.
Speaker 4: But just breeze past everybody. There's a video. I'm going
to try and find it. There's a video on visualizing
what it looks like to do it. It's just a
different way of running a iambic pedal, but it's it's
more efficient in terms of, you know, finger swings.
Speaker 2: H Okay.
Speaker 1: I knew that that existed, just because the open source
Veil website has that asp of ultimatic, but I didn't
know what it was.
Speaker 2: M I see, I've heard of that, but I didn't
know what it was either. Huh. Okay, well, these pictures
are probably not relevant. They're just of a guy in
a train conductor suit more than anything. But yeah, it was.
That was the first time I'd ever heard of American
versus International Wars code. So we do have a practice key.
Actually we have five practice keys to give away tonight.
This is what they look like, and somebody's going to
have to learn how to use a paddle because it's
there's no battery in it. Somebody said there there could
be a battery that's put in the bottom of this thing.
I think that's correct. I think you take off these
four screws and put a nine bolt in it. But
it's got external power here as well.
Speaker 4: If they're true to the original copy from MFJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's heavy, like in
a good way, like you're not gonna flip it over
by hitting it too hard right here. So this is
this is a nice key right here. So these are
these sell for about seventy dollars on the Giga Parts website,
and they gave me five codes to give away tonight
that you will go and order the key and put
it in your cart, put in this code I give
you and the keybo zero out and you'll get free shipping.
Speaker 3: Oh nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm gonna get the codes out live on
the air.
Speaker 9: Frank, you're gonna put the in the chat, right uh huh?
Speaker 3: The first one will not work for anybody.
Speaker 2: You. No, we're going to pick the winner on the chat,
but we're not gonna we're not.
Speaker 3: Gonna do How are y'all going to do that? Do
we need to enter somewhere? Are we going?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull up I'm gonna pull
up Nightbot here in a minute.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna we need to be on the hand two
point zero streams chat and or t o's chat.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, it's you're gonna have to
be on chat because because the chat is, the chat
is not tied together. So yeah, you're gonna have to
be on right chat to see it. Unfortunately, the chat
didn't tie together twelve minutes, about thirteen minutes until this
auction ends, too, So let's give away two of them
real quick.
Speaker 3: So let's let's if you're on a temporary off live stream.
I went ahead and post the link, and so did
the other. Frank to the.
Speaker 4: Battle of the Franks. Right to enter one leaves to enter?
Speaker 3: What's drink and whiskey? How would this go?
Speaker 2: We're going to do a keyword.
Speaker 3: And Titanic. I like that.
Speaker 2: We're going to do a key Titanic. That's not that's
not bad, Frank. So okay, hold on a second, let
me go.
Speaker 3: Don't start cranking it out yet because you won't count.
Speaker 2: Nope, dam well, he's oking. Titanic is the word? Titanic
is the word. We're going to do two winners and
Titanic in the chat. There we go. Jeff was first
hang on to be entered into the chat to win
one of these keys. So see us, Steve, where'd you go?
Who Titanic?
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine, and we'll we lost him, did we No,
he's still in there. He's just he just turned his
camera off. Okay, he's still in there. There we goes. Okay,
So Kyle types unsinkable. Kyle, you don't need to practice
key bro.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing Titanic over in temporary offline. You need to
scooty on over to the hand radio two point zero,
which the count I just past the Titanic.
Speaker 2: Feed that that'll be feedback for restream. I will I
will contact him and say, hey, if you're going to
do this shared link, we need to share chats. Also,
not the sparkling water.
Speaker 3: Hey, by h c B.
Speaker 4: I'm in Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's five o'clock somewhere right
time for some Yeah, breaking out the cold water.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you were back in Texas, man Congress,
back into the Country of the Free.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for like a day, right. I don't think it.
I don't think case matters.
Speaker 3: Lee, do not do a pound beforehand though, that won't
get No.
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters case white star line.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Got one hundred and fifty one entry so far.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you gotta you gotta make like Marconi one
of the keywords.
Speaker 2: Or veil veil.
Speaker 4: Well, we might do that, just give him some credit
totally and whatever. That other guy's name was Morse Max Maxwell,
Max oh Maxwell, for.
Speaker 1: One of the for one of the codes. You could
play it in Morse code and this first person to
type it in.
Speaker 9: We'll keep well in something a word and then if
you get it, then you get the keyword.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But but if you get it, then you don't
know that need the trainer.
Speaker 1: Good point, that's true.
Speaker 4: Don't ruin everybody's fun. And by everybody I mean Becky.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: So you're really good at receiving, you just suck at sending,
so you still need the train.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's backwards. Though sending is easy, receiving is like
I might as well be listening to a freaking modem
dial it modem from the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 7: But can someone but can someone receive your sending? For sure?
Like recording yourself sending.
Speaker 2: And then like no, that's good, record a.
Speaker 9: Sentence and then put it away for a couple of
weeks and then try to decode your own sending is
really eye opening?
Speaker 3: Is that like listening to your own voice?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, oh I hate this interesting, I made a
really good I do. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Okay, so the CWS OPS course had a sending a lot,
and I realized that was no, that was my weakness
and because a lot of my slending is on the
keyboard now and so uh and definitely on a contest.
I mean the goal in the contest is to barely
touch your key and so yeah, you get kind of
lazy at that.
Speaker 5: So interesting would be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see Morrise code for Titanic in the chat.
At least that's what I assume it is.
Speaker 2: Boondog Technologies.
Speaker 1: Started with l.
Speaker 4: Becky was very judgmental with that, like, no, what I
what I heard was bless your heart, Yes, l l
z l l z.
Speaker 1: M. What if.
Speaker 4: It's actually not Morse code at all, it's just random
pictures of the starship Enterprise.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's perfect, definitely.
Speaker 4: Except for the end where it might be upside down,
or that might be the Farragut. I think it's the
Farragut or the critos.
Speaker 3: Crito Fransy good drop. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: We have a discourse serve about learning Morse code, and
probably once a week we have somebody join and they
send a little clip from a video game, like, I'm
pretty sure this is more code.
Speaker 2: This for me.
Speaker 3: How do y'all recommend learning morse code, Becky and Mike,
what is your kind of take on that?
Speaker 1: So, my personal take is that for anybody who's interested,
don't be scared by too many options. There's nothing wrong
with getting started on your own, and there's lots of
fantastic options. So if you and just the fact that
there's so many group clubs and groups, yeah, yeah, that's
full of people that are interested in Morse code is
awesome because you're never you're never going to be by yourself, Like,
no matter where you get in your journey, you're going
to have people to have fun with.
Speaker 9: I would say, like in short, is find a way
to quickly just learn the characters. There's probably about.
Speaker 7: Forty things you have to learn.
Speaker 9: There's twenty six letters, ten numbers, and a couple punctuation marks.
Speaker 7: And if you can.
Speaker 9: Sort of get them sort of, they don't have to
be perfect.
Speaker 7: You should be missing as.
Speaker 9: Part of your practice, but practice with a fast character speed,
almost like twenty five to thirty words a minute, because
you have to train your brain to not be able
to count, because if you can count, then you have
to hear it.
Speaker 7: How many was that? And then you get the letter
and that takes too much time.
Speaker 1: And if that sounds crazy, it sounded crazy to me
one time too. So I learned at a slower speed
and memorized them all, and then when I actually tried
copying real Morse code, I got super frustrated and ended
up putting my radios in a drawer and thought I'd
given it up forever. And then when she said she
wanted to learn, and I looked up better practices for learning,
and she learned by sound. She learned way faster than me,
and I relearned using that method, and highly highly recommend.
Speaker 9: People think, oh, I'm stuck, I need to slow it
down when you're trying to copy, and it's probably the opposite.
If you're stuck and you can't distinguish between two characters,
you have to speed it up so that you hear
the sound of the whole character and not try to count.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I've heard a lot of guys who you
know used to be five words per minute for like
a Tech plus or a novice license, and going from
five to fifteen words per minute is hard. I've heard
people say it's harder than it is to just learn
it at fifteen words a minute.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and then there's that other plateau as soon as
you if you learn it between twelve and fifteen, to
try to get past that, that's where you're still able
to kind of decode and count in your head. You'll
have a really hard time getting past that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the challenge is like you'll think you know it
at fifteen words per minute, but then you hear fifteen
words per minute morse code with letters coming in a sequence,
and it even if you know every single letter, you
have to be able to have it pop into your
head pretty quickly, like near instant before the next letter comes.
And so that's was my problem. I knew them, I'd
over learned them to the point where I knew every
single letter for sure, but it took me so long
to think of it that by the time that I
thought of it, one or two letters already come by.
Speaker 2: You missed the word yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it really get hung up on that too.
Speaker 1: Yeh.
Speaker 3: So here's an open question. I would a dyslexic person
go about trying to learn everything?
Speaker 7: I mean, I would say the same way, you just
have to. He might take you. It might just take
you longer to it sounds you're.
Speaker 4: Really maybe it's your superpower, Frank, Yeah, maybe, Yeah, you
need to start thinking in morse code and then you'll
be undyslexic. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have had some people who have asked that
question on the Discord channel, and there have been some
people that were dyslic dyslexic that answered, and if I
remember correctly, they said that that like everybody generally suffers
from getting some of the the letters backwards, that where
their their mirror images, and yes, yes, and that you're
more likely to do that. But by learning by sound,
it's still that problem is way less than it is
when you're memorizing the dits and DAWs mapping, because you're
just hearing the sound of it.
Speaker 4: Mike actually brought up a really good point too, Like
one of the things that I had in the beginning
was key fright, and I'm not really good at morse code,
so don't don't think I'm flexing on that part of it.
But when you mess it up when you're sending, you
mess up when you're talking, Like Mike just said dyslexic wrong,
and I probably said it wrong myself. I'm not picking
on you, Mike, but it's natural. It happens. You stutter,
you stammer, you think you you know whatever, And in
morse code, there's a solution to that. You send five
dits in a row, like that's the signal that I
screwed up. And then the other thing you can do
is maybe you didn't hear correctly. You send the question
mark did it?
Speaker 5: Did it?
Speaker 4: And then you get an answer back of somebody repeating
which you didn't hear properly.
Speaker 2: I just try to quit five yeah, yeah, five dits
in a rows of five?
Speaker 4: It is, but well.
Speaker 9: Did kind of you kind of do it in a
way that is very different than what you're sending right then,
like if you're sending it consistent and then all of
a sudden you just stop and.
Speaker 7: Go did like not in a pattern.
Speaker 2: It's just just just it's not a time.
Speaker 9: It's five dits y yeah, or you just kind of
stop and if you're talking to someone in their CW
operator they get it. If you're sending and then all
of a sudden you stop and you go back and
you start the word again, then you're going.
Speaker 2: To pick up on it.
Speaker 1: I see it, okay, related to mistakes, like one hundred percent.
I used to listen to people on the air sending
morse code when I was learning, and I was like,
I totally suck today, Like I like I missed. I
missed like ten percent of the things that that person
was sending or something like that. And then after I
got a little bit more proficient and I'm listening on
the air, I just recognized the mistakes and my brain
automatically corrects it, and I realized, going back in time,
there were a lot of times when I thought I
was not copying it right, and it wasn't. I wasn't copyright.
They just weren't sending it perfectly. But once you know
what you're proficient enough, it doesn't really matter. And if
you know that the other person that you're talking to
is experienced, you can just glaze over it and just
not even bother because you know, okay, they know what
I meant.
Speaker 2: Colin and I came up with a T shirt when
we were on our new England Phota row a few
years ago, and it's just going to say you are
h n n and yeah, so you got that immediately.
Speaker 3: One minute left on the auction.
Speaker 4: Ye yep, oh Jason. By the way, everybody is saying
that my stream is running faster than yours. Is my
real time is more real time than your real time?
Speaker 2: Oh well good. That means that means restreams favoring you
for some reason. Well, of course, yeah, good. When did
you tell restream We're both in Texas, so we should
be equal.
Speaker 3: I like this question, what is the best to start
off straight or paddle?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: God, that's you want to end up?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's one you'll get a lot of answers from.
I mean, if you ask eight people, you'll get ten answers.
But you probably would say we probably would say if
you are brand new and you haven't like experimented or
gotten tried or practiced anything, probably start on a straight
key because you're responsible for every dit space DA, every
element in it, and your timing will be better. It's
also a little easier because you're not having to also
learn how to send with a paddle because it's different.
So instead of Mike says something like, it's like trying
to do Morse code and yoga at the same time.
If you're trying to learn more code and learn how
to use a paddle, you know, it's adding one layer
of complexity versus.
Speaker 7: Just that button.
Speaker 2: Okay, the auction ended sixteen seventy five's with the that's
where it was where it went. Nobody sniped it the
last minute, so there we go.
Speaker 3: I was hoping that will happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of hoping a lot of money.
That's a pretty that's a pretty high amount for starting
a one dollar though, so.
Speaker 7: I think someone really.
Speaker 2: Yeah high, Yes, So okay, I've got So here's the
paddle we're giving away and boon dot cu go look
at that Boobey Island. Oh the book we talked. Okay,
that's all here. One hundred and seventy eligible users have
one hundred and seventy people have entered the word Titanic,
and I think we're going to just choose a winner
right there, and I've got five of these to give away. Guys. Uh,
k F eight bgg, KF eight bg. I gotta write
this down KF eight bgg. So here's how I should
have said this earlier, and I didn't say this. I
don't have any paper on my desk. How is that possible?
I was writing in my tablet so I could always
go back and watch my own live stream.
Speaker 5: Hey, there you go.
Speaker 2: Never kfaight bgg. So what will happen is I will
email you guys tomorrow morning, and it's up to you
to reply to me. And you reply to me, and
I will give you the information for your free code
to buy this from Gigabarts. So KF eight bgg he said, okay,
he says, good on qr Z. Good deal. Yep. Well
that's where I'm going to get your email addressed. Then
kfa bgg. We're gonna reroll a winner. We're gonna do
a second one right now. Bill the cot? Does that
say cot? Build a cat? Maybe? Hold on, old man time.
Speaker 4: Build a cat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, build a cat cat with two t's, that's what
I thought it was called build a Cat two two
eight five.
Speaker 4: Well, build a Cat is probably a registered trademark, and
build a Cat is not.
Speaker 2: Some weird names that YouTube has. For some reason, the
actual handles don't show up anymore.
Speaker 4: Build a Cat came from right, No, I do not
it's a Sunday comic Stuonsberry.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, no, I do know that. I didn't associate it,
but yes, okay, so build a cat. Please send me
your call sign, sir, let me know what your call sign.
Speaker 3: Is, and they do that bye.
Speaker 2: By typing your call sign in the chat. Frank, you
don't have to get your email address. Just yeah. If
he's still here back, we're gonna wait a minute for
him to come out, because if you type, it will
show up in the window here. That I the winter
window here.
Speaker 4: So our friend Colin and VK looked up the shipping
for the Morse code key that you're giving away to
go to VK to go to Australia. He says, it's
only one hundred and forty two dollars and ninety six
cents to win that.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay, I thought you said gold to cot. No,
he that's where I thought you were going. He's still
on deep space nine as far as I know, Rocknor.
I was talking with a friend of mine, James Baker. Frank.
I was talking with Baker one day and he said
something to me and we were arguing about just playful
arguing about something he's like and he's like, you are
not Feklar. I'm like, oh but I am. We're the
souls of the Unarmed Klingons. It's been eternity. And he
looked at me like I got that reference. And I'm like,
you can't out star trek me, buddy, there's no way
it's not to hear that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, Bill,
the cat is not responding in the chat. So Bill,
if you put something in the chat, let me know. Uh,
we're gonna let's do a Let's do another keyword, another
another keyword. You guys come up with another keyword, nerds?
Speaker 4: Did we did? We come with with Vail, with Uda,
with Maxwell, Okay, with Marconi.
Speaker 2: We'll pick one.
Speaker 4: Titanic's call sign.
Speaker 5: Marcon his birthday recently, so we could say.
Speaker 4: Don't don't say what Titanic's call sign was, just say
that's what the keyword is, and see how do you
actually get it?
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Cleveland Kid says that the keybord should be Mike and Becky.
Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, Bill, I see in the chat he is
U k F for p C T p C T.
Good deal. Okay, all right, let's do let's just do
Morris since it's his birthday today.
Speaker 4: One all right, m.
Speaker 2: O R s E lowercase m O R s C.
That's the that's the that's the keyword here. Okay, fine,
did it? Did it? M hm m hmm. Okay, boom,
there it is.
Speaker 4: Didn't So they're typing that into my chat. Make sure
you type it into Jason's chat over on his stream.
I mean, I appreciate the love over here, Bud. Don't
win you anything. We'll do a giveaway on my channel
probably next week or the week after. It depends on
where do you have.
Speaker 2: A Do you have a way to do a keyword giveaway, Steve?
Speaker 4: I do, No, I don't. I do on stream yard.
But we're not using stream yard.
Speaker 2: You're not using stream yard.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I do on night Bode.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm using Nightbod. That's what I'm using. Yeah,
if you want to spin one up and give one
away away your channel, let's do that.
Speaker 4: Okay, my channel. Yeah, I already did add you to chat.
Speaker 2: Radio Crusader. Don't tell my wife. I'm in the chat,
sure thing, buddy, no problem. Send me a bottle of larceny.
I won't tell your wife. Whatever you want.
Speaker 4: Bud, if Jason has the ability to talk to your wife,
you have bigger problems for sure.
Speaker 2: That's a good way to say.
Speaker 3: The door check will just backdoor that conversation.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: I went set up the keyword on my side, and
since he didn't use the one that I suggested, yeah,
do that. I will use the one that I suggested.
Speaker 2: Titanic call sign.
Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm not going to tell you what it is.
You just have to know it and type it in
on my channel.
Speaker 3: See, I will just wait for everyone else to then
then I'll just see the long scroll right exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Yeah, yeah, And we got one
hundred and seventy one hundred and seventy eight, now.
Speaker 4: Seventy nine, So Michael's already entering on my side.
Speaker 2: Good, good, go ahead, Steve.
Speaker 8: Oh, I was just gonna ask Mike and Becky is
there a revival of CW Is there an increased interest
in it? Because you know, back in the day in
the seventies when I was getting licensed, and I know
I've got filters on so I look a lot younger
than that on online here, but you know, I had
to do twenty words permit for my extra class and
it was so it was really kind of right a passage.
And now I think people are voluntarily you know, learning
it even though.
Speaker 4: It's not mandatory. That is that correct?
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, I think they're really I think
the younger generation, like even teenagers. There's a couple really
popular YouTubers that are younger in their thirties, twenties, you know,
say younger because we're ancient, but I think it really does.
I think some of the younger population is starting to
pick it up and go with it, and it's looking
you know, it's cool.
Speaker 7: It's cool to be able to have a secret code.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think our perspective is a little
bit biased, just because we have a discord channel about
learning Morse code and we talk about it all the time,
and that's what our YouTube channel is mostly about. And
so from our perspective, it definitely feels like it's growing
and growing a bunch. But the feedback that we get
from other people is the same that there's been a
lot of resurgence and interests and I think that maybe
it goes along with the whole vinyl record CDs coming
back all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: Can I would submit that I think that removing the
code requirement of five words per minute from the entry
level HAM radio test back in the day, I think
that actually prevented a lot of people from becoming Hams
and prevented a lot of people from learning morse code.
If you've ever tried morse code at five words a minute,
it is painful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible.
Speaker 4: I think faster than five words a minute, I like,
I go on lunch break in between letters, so imagine,
imagine five words per minute in one letter at a time,
there's like, what twenty seconds between letters. It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 9: It is sometimes now when you hear stuff that is slower,
like even ten words or fifteen words a minute, it
really is harder to copy than someone that has a
faster character speed. Spacing is really the key. Like fast
character speed with enough space is way easier to copy,
and just.
Speaker 1: Good spacing in general.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always like it the fact that Americans don't
like to be told what to do. So once people
stopped telling us we had to learn it to get
our license, We're like, oh, let's go.
Speaker 7: It's a choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's a choice. Yeah yeah, But that's you know,
it's gonna be Okay, let's see, I've got one hundred
and eighty six and uh so this is for key
number three. Steve's gonna do key number four here in
a minute, s Isaac, s isaacs six oh seven to one,
s Isaacs. And you're in the chat all the time.
He's a YouTube channel member, s isaacs. Tell me your
call sign, sir, and I have to wait thirty seconds
for the delay on YouTube. But there you go, six
seven one, boom, there we go. Yay, right, says.
Speaker 4: He said something I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he typed that right as eye was clicking his
uh clicking win and so it just was just really
good timing. But what do you share the.
Speaker 3: Victor echo, Charlie.
Speaker 4: So this is the giveaway on my side, and okay,
I have eighty nine people who have entered. I'm going
to hit the choose a winner button and it's Pepe.
I don't like how Nightbab gives you, like no excitement.
It's like I clicked the button and you've won, Pepe. Yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry that night Bob lets you down, Pepe. The
chat HB nine e v T will gigapart ship to
what is that Dominican Republic?
Speaker 1: Its Netherlands. We know because we gave away an antenna
and he won.
Speaker 9: Our Yeah, he wins everything.
Speaker 2: He's got roll hacks. Yeah, he's got roll hacks. Wow.
HB nine Yeah, yeah, that's the Netherlands. It's I don't know.
I don't know that that that question did not come up.
We will. We'll put it in there and see tell
me the call sign again, HB nine.
Speaker 4: HB nine echo Victor Tango, got you, Pepe and he
says he's from Switzerland, so he has acknowledged.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Switzerland.
Speaker 2: Oh it's Switzerland. Okay, there is there is a hotel.
There is a hotel. Bravo this Dominican Republic. I forget
the number on it. I've got this really cool cheat
sheet in front of me. I could just look it up. Okay,
we've got one more key to give away, Steve, do
you want to do it over there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sure, I'm gonna close that out and I'm gonna do
another giveaway code. Let me stop sharing. And while I'm
doing that, Jody says, the shortest sentence AI could find
to send in Morse code would be it is it?
At five words a minute, that's nine dits and two
dos imagine how long it would take you to hear
nine dits and two DAWs in one minute?
Speaker 2: Had five words a minute out? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Uh the way options a new keyword? I need a
new keyword, and we're going to do the other person
who contributed to morse code and hopefully I spelled it right.
So you got to type in all the new ones.
Speaker 2: Giga parts is in the chat now, he says. The
coupon code will give you a free key, but free
shipping only works in the lower forty eight So.
Speaker 4: Sorry, type in the the other person's last name, and
maybe I spelled it wrong. Caps are not. I don't
think it matters. Did I spell it wrong?
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 4: Are they? Are they cheating? Okay? I have two people
that have typed it the way that I have typed it.
Speaker 2: Well, that just means they typed it sometime in the chat.
Is this kind to pick up other stuff than the
chap and last.
Speaker 4: Like they also typed it wrong, so more people are
typing in quote unquote wrong, then quote unquote right. How
do you spell his name? Now that we've got every
combination and permutation the other guy, how do you spell
his last name?
Speaker 5: Like the ski resort.
Speaker 4: And how do you spell that? I'm not a steer?
Speaker 5: H yeah v A. I l like, yeah.
Speaker 4: You should bring up have spelled it.
Speaker 5: You should bring up a picture of him.
Speaker 8: He is very well groomed in contrast to Samuel, like
the odd couple.
Speaker 1: He compets it.
Speaker 4: Okay for people who are typing it right perfect.
Speaker 2: Pepe says He'll uses shipping address in the United States,
so we'll I'll get you an email tomorrow. Pepe, thank
you for being here and thank you for the d X. Buddy.
They'll you need to type that and see it Steve's chat.
They're typing it in my chat now, So Frank, please
share the link to Steve's chat again. Somebody asked for
a minute ago.
Speaker 4: There there is mister vale horse groomed.
Speaker 3: It is like night and day. But yeah, I still
like the beard though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Well his beard is groomed and his eyebrows are trimmed.
That's gotta be a I Rob should That doesn't look.
Speaker 9: If you look at the letters on the key thing,
they don't make sense.
Speaker 2: Oh that's definitely.
Speaker 4: See if I can find a better picture of him.
Speaker 2: Rob should win. The Rob should win. The last one
because he instead of Veil, he tapped Valhalla, so that
should totally win.
Speaker 3: Why why is Ai doing this? There's there's so many
good pictures we have historical.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a different picture where a veil doesn't
look as good as Morse.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened to Samuel's beard.
Speaker 7: Someone asked a question potato, Well there you go.
Speaker 3: What was the question?
Speaker 9: Someone in the chat asked a question about resources that
someone could listen to during a drive for Morse Code,
and probably the best thing to go to is it's
Morse Ninja.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's Christian.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they have he has just about every You can
set the parameters you can filter on the website to
you know, if you want to listen to just letters,
or if you want to listen to the top fifty words,
or you can set spacing in words a minute.
Speaker 2: So's he's the guy on YouTube. That's what's his name?
Speaker 4: And one CLC I think, right, Christian Kleybord.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's not him. I mean that's Morse Ninja.
But there's another guy. Gosh, who was it? There was
a guy I was listening to. He's got like a
thousand like literally like he'll do each letter at fifteen
words a minute, and then he'll do all the states
at fifteen words a minute. Then who'll do all the
states at seventeen words a minute, and then at twenty minutes.
It's like Robert Fogelty or something like that. Oh cool.
Speaker 4: YouTube is the answer to everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I've listened to that on road
trips before when I was driving by myself, and that
helped me start with the recognition. I was listening at like,
I think twenty words a minute something like that.
Speaker 4: So okay, Jason, we've got to give this all of
the credit that it deserves. We've got it, like, okay,
moment of silence. I'm going to hit the button. We're
going to see the magic happen and go.
Speaker 3: Day.
Speaker 4: Bill Bowlin eight has won. Bill. Let us know your
call sign if you have one, and if you don't,
let us know that you don't have one, so we
can figure out some other way that you can get
us your email address, because I don't want to type
in your email address into a YouTube chat. Let's you
want to that's up to you, right, My email address
is public.
Speaker 2: Yeah minus two. I've only said it on you.
Speaker 3: Whisky for Yankee Alpha Hotel.
Speaker 2: Whiskey for Yankee Alpha Hotel. Okay, okay, so I've got
awesome kfaight bgg KF four, pct kN seven v c
HB nine, EVT and W four. Y ah.
Speaker 4: That all those rhymes except for Bill.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was almost a song, right, yeah right yeah yeah.
Now now tap all that out in morse code, all
far of those call signs.
Speaker 4: Real quick relations bill.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So okay, guys, successful stream. Thank you very much.
Huge shout out to Gigaparts for these giveaways, thanks for
putting all this together and for the suggestion. And hopefully
that auction that we shared went for the amount that
you wanted it too. It ended at sixteen hundred and
seventy five dollars, which is pretty good for an auction
that started at one dollar. Right here. I was thinking,
you guys, the first time I looked at this, I
was thinking it was you started like two or three
hundred dollars. But it says down there, if you read it,
it says started at one dollar. So one dollar, Bob,
one dollar, I'd buy that dollar. So yeah, good deal,
all right? Well, uh uh Steve and Violetta and Mike
and Becky, thank you for joining us tonight. Appreciate UH.
Appreciate you guys being here. If you guys want to
do UH sometime early. Are you guys going to be
in uh? Steve and Violetta, you're you're going to be
in Orlando by chance? For him Cash, I.
Speaker 8: Will not be No, Okay, we'll be at Dayton and
we'll be in the gigabarts that at Dayton if you
want to.
Speaker 2: Come in Okay, okay, yeah, everyone's dream so the ways. Yeah,
the reason I said Orlando's because that's about a month
before you actually go over there, so it's you know,
it'd be fresh in people's minds that way. But yeah,
I will. I'll catch up with you guys at Dayton
next month too. That'd be great to meet you face
to face.
Speaker 4: Love that. We need a Pebble update from Mike and
Becky before we sign on.
Speaker 2: Yes, people have been asking about the Pebble updates.
Speaker 7: So you mean this right here?
Speaker 2: This guy I don't know.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Hold that up again, Hold it up again. There you go,
meter HF Radio. I'm gonna guess it is CW only.
Speaker 7: Nope, nope, nope, Okay, single sideband. It does digital.
Speaker 9: And it does CW I actually I'm going to go
for a undred fifty bucks.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Nice Yeah and huge kidos to barb w w B
two cb A. He's the hardware behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's great.
Speaker 8: And it runs the legal limit, then it actually runs more.
Speaker 4: You got to tune it down intenut q.
Speaker 1: RP when you plug in a normal barrel plug, but
you can also plug in your phone and it's outputs
about one way when you power.
Speaker 9: It from your USB right there and there's your barrel connector.
Speaker 2: Nice, that's slip.
Speaker 4: I want one of those going to be available.
Speaker 9: Built in key and your microphone right there so you
can PTT and do SSB without anything and key.
Speaker 3: Is this a kit or is it come complete?
Speaker 1: It's a kit, but every part that we could make
available already prepopulated is pretty popular.
Speaker 7: Big is the kit bag. That's it that in your wire.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: Oh it's about fourteen through whole parts and.
Speaker 1: If you know our JA six Ara he did a
video where he went up on a summit and built
the pebble HF on the summit and then activated the summits,
the battery powered.
Speaker 9: In everything and he did it in. I think he
built it in twenty nine minutes. Wow, from start to
PTT with power.
Speaker 2: Jeez, I'm not going to do that. I'm just yeah,
but I would love to build one on a live stream,
so I'll grab one of those. When are they going
to be available?
Speaker 1: So we're still only saying early summer just because there's
stuff that we don't know. We're now thinking. The thing
that we're focused on right now is finalizing the firmware.
So unlike some of the other great radios, which, by
the way, if you're already in the market for a
Qmax or one of the other graders, kill get one
of those, they will outperform it. This is really to
get more people into hf IF IF IF money is
is an obstacle for you. Uh so uh, We're trying
to finalize the firmware because it is a little bit
of a pained update the firmware, and we want it
to be as good enough to where we know that
anybody who gets one like it'll do everything they expected
to do and they never have to worry about upgrading it. Yes,
I'm sure we'll find bugs, Yes there'll be improvements. I'm
sure there's people that are already looking forward to custom
modeling the firmware and things like that.
Speaker 7: But it's all open source like everything.
Speaker 9: It's open source firmware, the design, the three D file,
so you can get it in print, in a different color,
whatever you want to do with it. It's kind of
a community project for us to give back and be
able to use our shop and everything to be able
to make them that inexpensive.
Speaker 3: I love to build it, sure, that'd be fun. I'll
probably do it backwards though.
Speaker 7: You need to watch ours video. He did put the
tuning knob on the upside down and but.
Speaker 9: He's pett it still works, so he petted it, but
then in the field he cut it off and resolied
it on the front.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 7: It's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: Sweet. Okay, Well, I'm gonna be in contact with you
guys about that for sure.
Speaker 9: But we do have it's pebblehf dot com and at
the bottom there is a sign up for email notifications,
so if anybody's interested and they want to keep updated,
that's the place to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gearing about to be able to move
as fast as we can, and so we're just trying
to get some of the uncertainty out and parts of
play issuesing firmware, but firmware is the main thing. I
want to make sure that we don't end up shipping
a whole bunch of them just to have people unhappy
because they need upgrade the firmware and it's a pained upgrade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, yep. Okay, thank you for Frank shared the
chat the link in the chat, so good deal. Okay, guys,
thank you for joining everyone O, thanks for co hosting,
and thanks for letting us take over your time slide.
Hey hey, but well he was he was the co
host tonight, Frank. Sorry, you do a good job.
Speaker 4: Frank is not allowed to do his end of stream
announcement on my channel.
Speaker 2: Sorry, okay, yeah, but Frank once again. Steven Violetta, thank
you for joining us tonight and shout out to Giggle
Parts again and we'll do this again. Sometimes these are
fun live streams. I really enjoy him, so seventy three
to all have a good evening and we'll catch you
later this week here.
Speaker 5: Everybody, thank you.