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Siders Case: Indictment Identifies Gary Jr. As The Victim's Uncle | #WeirdDarkNEWS

The indictment read aloud in a Vinton County courtroom Wednesday names how Gary Siders Jr. is related to the child he is accused of abusing, his bond went up by a quarter of a million dollars in the same hearing, and two felony cases no news outlet has reported sit on a docket two counties away.

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Speaker 1: The indictment, read aloud in a Vinton County courtroom Wednesday,

names how Gary Siders Jr. is related to the child

he is accused of abusing. His bond went up by

a quarter of a million dollars in the same hearing.

And two felony cases no news outlet has reported sit

on a docket two counties away. I'm Darren Marlar, and

this is Weird Dark News. The latest stories of true crime,

the paranormal, and all things strange and macabre. You can

find more of these stories at weirddarkness.com slash news. This

episode was narrated by Robo Darren, because real Darren is sick,

but expects to be back behind the microphone very soon.

Gary Siders Jr. walked into the Vinton County Court of

Common Pleas in handcuffs on Wednesday, August 26th, and pleaded

not guilty to every charge against him in both of

his cases. The 19 restructured counts of endangering children and

before sex offenses returned against him on August 21st. His

bond was increased to $ 550, 000. Anjanette Levy, reporting for NewsNation's

Crime Fix from the hearing, said Judge Lena Featherolf Rogers

raised the figure from the $ 300, 000 he had been held

on Prosecuting attorney William Archer argued he is a flight

risk and told the court he has been trying to

hide from authorities for years. The indictment in the sex

case identifies him as the uncle of the child he

is accused of abusing and states that the child was

at least 13 years old and under 16 at the time.

This is my eighth update since the 16 children were

found in Hamden on June 30th. The August 22nd piece

covers the grand jury indictments and the three investigations behind them.

The August 20th piece covers the bond fight, and the

August 6th, August 4th, July 29th, July 22nd, and July

15th installments carry everything before that. My August 22nd piece

ended that section with the flat statement that no official

had explained what intra-family meant in this case. Archer had

said the child sex abuse cases involve intra-family relations. Attorney

General Andy Wilson's written release said the victim is not

a member of the defendant's immediate family. Former Franklin County

Prosecutor Ron O'Brien, reviewing the filings on NewsNation's crime fix,

said the two statements did not obviously line up and

that somebody needed to clarify it. Nobody did. The indictment

did it instead. Immediate family is a narrow legal term

covering a defendant's own children a niece or nephew sits

outside it and is still family, which is how Archer

and Wilson's office could both be describing the same relationship

accurately while appearing to contradict each other in public. WOUB

and WOSU both reported the uncle identification from the indictment Wednesday.

Both also wrote the charge as unlawful sexual contact with

a minor. The statute and the Attorney General's release both

say conduct And the difference matters because unlawful sexual conduct

with a minor and gross sexual imposition are separate offenses

carrying separate penalties. ABC6 was the only station inside the

courtroom and came out with two details nobody else has.

Gary Jr. 's attorney told the court that the minor

in the sex case is currently out of state and

that the 16 children remain in the care of Children's Services.

His attorney is also now challenging his mental competency, which

puts all four defendants in the same posture. Elizabeth Siders

is charged in both cases and has not been arraigned

on either indictment. NBC4 asked the Vinton County Court for

a date and was told it could not provide one.

Josh Saunders and Brandon Henderson Sr. were arraigned in Vinton

County on Monday, August 24, two days ahead of Gary Jr.,

Both pleaded not guilty. A judge said bond at $ 250, 000

for each man and ordered them to have no contact

with one another or with the alleged victims. The indictments

carry date ranges that the Attorney General's release did not include. Saunders, 23,

faces three first-degree felony counts of rape and one third-degree

felony count of gross sexual imposition, covering conduct alleged between

January of 2020 and and June of 2023. Court records

show one of the rape counts involves a victim younger

than 10. Henderson, 40, faces 21 counts spanning January of

2020 through November of 2025, and his indictment alleges the

sexual battery victim was under 18. Court documents list the

same address for both men. Neither of their two alleged

victims is among the 16 children taken from the Omer

Street house. Both men were strangers to this case eight

days ago. A 10TV reporter who went to South Bloomingville

after the indictments came back said nobody she spoke with

there recognized either name. Marriage and birth records pulled since

then by NBC4 Investigates and by ABC6 chief investigator Lisa

Rantala have placed both of them inside the family. Josh

Saunders is the son of Virginia Ciders Saunders, who is

Gary Jr. 's sister. That makes him a grandson of

Gary Ciders Sr. and Christina Ciders, a nephew to Gary Jr.

and Elizabeth, and a first cousin to the 16 children.

Virginia and Joshua D. Saunders took out a marriage license

in Gallia County on April 17, 2003, filed under Records

R-0002-99131 and R-0002-991-32. She was 15. He was 19. And

Rantala reports the application listed her as a student and

him as working at a shake shop, with Christina and

Gary Sr. signing the parental consent that allowed it to proceed.

Josh Saunders was born on June 3rd, 2003, about a

month after the wedding itself. His father has been in

state custody since 2009, serving 15 years to life at

the Chillicothe Correctional Institution on a murder charge. He and

Virginia are still legally married. Around the time he went

to prison, Virginia began a relationship with Brandon Henderson, and

court records show the two of them jointly evicted twice,

in 2010 and again in 2011. She gave birth to

a daughter in 2010, whose parentage the court records leave open.

That child is now in the custody of Virginia's sister

and brother-in-law. ABC6 obtained a family obituary that lists Henderson

as a brother-in-law to Gary Jr. and Elizabeth. NBC4' s records

reporting calls him the aunt's partner. Virginia and her husband

have never divorced, which rules out a marriage to her

on the face of the record, so partner is the

description the filings support. This is the third underage marriage

documented inside this family. Elizabeth was 15 and pregnant when

she married Gary Jr. on March 31, 2008, in Mason County,

West Virginia, with both of them living in Gallia County, Ohio,

at the time. Tessie Wright was 14 and pregnant when

she married Richard E. Siders, then 48, in Gallia County

in 2002. That license was filed on December 2, 2002.

under records R0002-98351 and R0002-98352. ABC6 also reports that the

two children Saunders is accused of abusing do not share

the initials of any of Gary Jr. and Elizabeth's 16.

Ohio law now allows a 17-year-old to marry only with

juvenile court consent, a maximum four-year age gap. and a

guardian ad litem. Two bills pending in Columbus, House Bill

670 and Senate Bill 341, would set the minimum at 18,

with no exception. Judge Featherolf Rogers will take up Gary Sr.

's competency on Tuesday, September 9th, in Vinton County Common Pleas,

and the same hearing covers whether he should be found

not guilty by reason of insanity. He is the first

of the four defendants to reach that stage. His attorney,

Dorian Baum, appeared on NewsNation's Crime Fix this week alongside

a co-counsel he introduced as John Getzen and said Geary Sr.

was transported to the evaluation facility but that no report

has come back. Baum cautioned against expecting one soon, describing

the ordinary interval as three to six weeks after the

evaluation itself rather than after the order. He also raised

a procedural question he intends to put to the court.

whether a defendant whose competency is unresolved can meaningfully be

arraigned at all, since entering a plea requires understanding what

is being pleaded to. Baum is also floating the outline

of a defense. Gary Sr., he told CrimeFix, may himself

have been a victim in that house. An elderly man

in steep mental decline whose Social Security and state benefits

were financing the rent, the utilities, and the food, possibly

kept there without the capacity to leave. He pointed out

that Gary Sr. was never charged under Ohio's complicity statute,

and argued that the state's own charging decision signals it

does not believe he knew about the alleged sexual abuse.

On the count totals, Baum said the numbers reflect how

many children were in the home rather than how many

separate incidents occurred. WOUB reports that Gary Sr. and Elizabeth

are the two defendants whose orders include a sanity evaluation

on top of the competency examination. The order signed on

August 10th attached the contingent insanity evaluation to Elizabeth, so

that pairing is worth watching on the docket rather than

taking as settled. Since the indictments came back, commentary channels

have pushed a second theory into circulation. That two people

charged in neighboring Gallia County are Sider's relatives and that

their arrests happened on June 30th, the same day deputies

came up the Omer Street driveway. The names have traveled

with a document screenshot and a family tree drawn on screen.

Both cases sit on the Gallia County docket and can

be read there. Angel N. Doss and James L. Cremins

were charged by criminal complaint in Gallipolice Municipal Court on

June 11, 2026, before Judge Eric R. Mulford, with Detective

Shallon Schulte of the Gallia County Sheriff's Office as the

complainant on both. Kremens was bound over to Common Pleas

on June 17th. Doss was bound over on June 22nd.

All of that happened before the June 30th search warrant,

not on it, which disposes of the timeline the theory

was built on. A Gallia County grand jury indicted both

of them on July 15th, and the Common Pleas dockets

are considerably heavier than the municipal complaints were. James L. Kremens, 41,

is charged in Case 26CR000088 with at least 11 counts

of rape under Ohio Revised Code 2907.02, Subsection A1B, the

subsection covering a victim under 13. Every displayed count is

a first-degree felony carrying an offense date of March 12, 2023.

Judge Margaret Evans set bond at $ 1 million at 10%

during an indigent arraignment on July 16th and appointed Britt T.

Wiseman as counsel. A criminal jury trial had been scheduled

for September 3rd. It was canceled on August 10th, the

same day a motion hearing was held and journalized as

producing no changes. His next event is set for September 14th.

Angel N. Doss, 37, is charged in case 26CR000089 with

one third-degree felony count of endangering children under 2919.22 subsection

A and one first-degree felony count of complicity to commit

rape under 2923.03 subsection A2, both dated March 12, 2026.

That complicity count did not exist at the municipal level.

She was bound over on the endangering charge alone, and

the grand jury added the first-degree felony. The subsection charged

is the aid or abet provision, which is a materially

different allegation than failing to report or failing to protect.

She was arraigned on the new indictment on August 17th,

is represented by Winston G. Woodyard, and is out on

bond after a 10% deposit was posted on July 1st.

Her case is undisposed, with a next event on September 8th.

Both cases are being prosecuted by Gallia County Prosecuting Attorney

Jason D. Holdren before Judge Evans. Neither carries any involvement

by Archer, by Assistant Attorney General Kara Keating, by Highland

County Prosecutor Annika Collins, by the Attorney General's Office, or

by BCI. Both were investigated by the Gallia County Sheriff's Office.

Neither Gallia County docket references the Siders family, Vinton County,

or any related case. The claim that Angel Doss is

a Siders relative does not survive the records. She married

Brian Adam Doss in Gallia County on April 30, 2010,

and the license lists her as Angel Nicole Marks. The

Gallia County Probate Index carries 85 records under the Siders

name going back to the 1980s, and no Angel Siders

appears in any of them. Not as a bride, not

as an heir, not in an estate, not in a guardianship.

The only Angel in that entire index is a groom

named Ole Allen Angel, who married a Rachel Lee Siders

in 1999. James L. Cremines does not appear in Gallia

County Probate at all. Eighty-nine records carry the Cremines' name,

including an estate for a James E. Cremines opened in 2024.

And none of them is him. He has a prior

record in Gallipolis Municipal Court consisting of a 2008 drug

abuse case, a 2020 marijuana possession, and four traffic citations,

which contradicts a claim circulating online that he carries a

prior sex offense from 2004. Richard Eugene Siders, described in

several of these live streams as deceased, has one record

in Gallia County probate. The marriage license he and Tessie

Marie Wright took out on December 2nd, 2002. There is

no estate case. Whether he is living is not established

by anything in the public record, and no outlet has

reported his death. Angel Doss' charged defense date is March 12th, 2026.

Wilson's published timeline places the second of the three investigations,

the unlawful sexual conduct case that pointed at Gary Jr.

and Elizabeth and produced the June 30th warrant in March

of 2026. Same month, adjacent counties, and no documented connection

between them. That is a question for Holdren or Archer,

not a finding. Nothing in the record connects either case

to Hamden. State Representatives Justin Pizzulli, a Scioto County Republican,

and Darnell Brewer, a Cleveland Democrat, have introduced House Bill 984,

which would require the Ohio Department of Children and Youth

to set reimbursement rates for foster care placement and care,

with a review every two years. Pizzulli has pointed directly

at the Vinton County children as motivation. Therapeutic foster care

for them runs between $ 150 and $ 250 per child per day,

a figure he said would have bankrupted the county without

the $ 1 million in emergency funds the Ohio Controlling Board

approved in July. Scioto County Commissioner Scottie Powell told the

bill's press conference that the number of Ohio children in

custody has dropped 9 percent since 2020, while placement costs

have climbed 68 percent, from $ 231 million to $ 389 million.

and that counties carry roughly three-quarters of that through levies

and general funds. The legislature is on break until after

the November election. Any bill that is not passed when

the two-year General Assembly ends in December has to be

reintroduced from scratch. Gary Jr. is in custody at the

Southeastern Ohio Regional Jail on the increased $ 550, 000 bond. Elizabeth

and Christina remain there as well, both still waiting on

arraignment and both still waiting on Judge Featherolf Rogers to

rule on the bond modification motions Archer opposed on August 17.

Gary Sr. remains at the Hamden property on a $ 300, 000

recognizance bond with GPS monitoring, and his hearing is September 9.

No competency or sanity report has come back for any

of the four. No trial date has been set in

any of the Vinton County cases. The Columbus Dispatch's challenge

to the broader gag order is still pending before the

Ohio Supreme Court, as is its separate complaint against juvenile

judge Robert Grillo over sealed search warrant documents. Vinton County's

juvenile court motion seeking permanent custody of all 16 children

has not been decided. The children are in therapeutic foster care.

The Vinton County court record for Gary Jr. 's four

misdemeanor counts of public indecency Case C-R-B 2600123A still shows

the August 20th pretrial as pending with no outcome entered.

The Attorney General's Office has issued no new release on

this case since August 21st. Anyone with information about this

case is asked to call 855-BCI-OHIO. And as always, Everyone

charged in these cases is presumed innocent, unless and until

proven guilty in a court of law. No one else

named in this report has been charged with any crime.

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