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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the juggle underground podcast number 205 sitting here with echo Charles.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have questions from the field and we will provide to the best of our ability answers in some cases recommendations in other cases and at a minimum some courses of action that you can take to move forward on the path
[SPEAKER_01]: Well said.
[SPEAKER_01]: First question is, okay, good evening, Jocca Necotrols.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm high school senior preparing to matriculate at Virginia at a Virginia Military Institute in August.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm an avid CrossFit athlete and my school at my school and would like to start PJHA.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering what advice you would have regarding time management in a high stress environment and how to get into a, I won't quit mindset.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, you know, what you want to do, you want to get involved in some basic stress and accumulation and what that means you have to do some stressful things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you inoculate yourself?
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like you're doing some of them, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some crossfit, those are some psychos, hard workouts, they're going to put some stress on you, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu definitely can put some stress on you and get you, if you compete in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you've got to overcome some stress there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what actual sports you did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like wrestling or football or basketball or tennis or rowing or crossing or whatever track, something like so that you get stressed in those situations.
[SPEAKER_00]: I watch the interview with Jewel.
[SPEAKER_00]: on Joe Rogan.
[SPEAKER_00]: You from there were jewel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was a while ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was a while ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I remembered it because she runs like an academy for kids or like a school for kids, and one of the things that they do to prepare the kids for life is they play tennis.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Joe Rogan was kind of like, oh, why did my buddy play tennis did you play tennis?
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, no, no, I didn't play it, but it's super stressful, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's all on you and if you you've a small room for error, so, you know, whatever, like it's any of these sports is going to give you some level of stress
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're also going to help you, you're going to have to have grit, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're wrestling or you're playing football or tennis or basketball or rolling or, you know, do you get to, you are going to be put in stressful situations.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be hard and you can't quit, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to get stress and occupation, do stressful things.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to get into a mindset where you're not going to quit, do hard things.
[SPEAKER_00]: As far as the time management piece goes, the time management under stress, you've got to, first of all, you have to eliminate procrastination, you just got to do the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just do the thing, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's number one, you have something to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get as far ahead of the power curve as you can, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that you do that is don't do anything later that you can do now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do one thing later that you can do now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do the thing now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's important because it's really easy when you're when you go, oh, you know what I don't need to get this done tonight because I've got time in the morning don't do that do it tonight do it tonight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very good about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost like a 9.8 out of 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not gonna go to bed until I have the thing ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the rule.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's actually borderline anxiety, where I can't sleep, because I know I've got that thing or something happens in the morning and the water heater breaks and like whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, something goes wrong, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've owned like, like, for the podcast, for this podcast, I will print out notes,
[SPEAKER_00]: the night before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if there's something wrong with that printer in the morning, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we've got a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can email you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey man, printers not working.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you print these notes out?
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I've done that two twice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we've printed them out at victory.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, you know what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard for me to sleep.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: My printers, I've got a really good printer right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've, I've eased up on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: so but if you can do something now do it now don't put it off anything that you can get done now get it done now because you don't know what's coming so that's a step here's another thing with time management that is very important some things only have to be good enough
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_00]: So to get something good enough to take 20 minutes to get it perfect takes two hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is very common.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of things in life.
[SPEAKER_00]: You will waste a bunch of time trying to, and by the way, military indoctrination programs, they do that to the end-thegree.
[SPEAKER_00]: They will, they will give you tasks that if you do them perfect, you will not succeed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause you'll be doing this one particular task, perfect and you'll fail everything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you really have to learn what tasks just need to be good enough and what things because there are some things you're going to need to be as perfect as possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, keep that in mind what only needs to be good enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the different, you know, I was talking about this the other day with Andy Stump.
[SPEAKER_00]: To get a 90 on a test takes 45 minutes of study.
[SPEAKER_00]: to get a, you know, a 30 takes zero minutes to get a 90 takes 45 minutes to get a hundred takes four or five hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, both those things say a,
[SPEAKER_00]: So you gotta figure that out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now listen, if there's a course where your grade has dropped and you need to pull up the average, so you get an A, cool, you might need to, sometimes you might need to spend that three four hour studying so that you make sure you get a hundred and pull up that grade.
[SPEAKER_00]: But generally speaking, you need to figure out what is the optimum speed.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the optimum speed like they have an aircraft, like how can you go the longest mileage?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what speed is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you've got the pedal down to the floor, you're going to go less distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you need to keep that in mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that means you need to learn to prioritize and execute, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is a worth doing perfect and versus what is just worth doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: As far as stress goes,
[SPEAKER_00]: especially in like a the Virginia military institute uh... you have to remember that it's a game not saying that negative way i'm not saying that in a demeaning way it's a game look i went to davie boot camp it's a game i went to basic underwater demolition and seal training it's a game
[SPEAKER_00]: Officer candidate school.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sears school.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a game.
[SPEAKER_00]: All these things are games.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you have to remember that it's a game and the more if you care too much, it's going to create stress.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you get wrapped around the axle about something that you shouldn't care about, they're going to find it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to figure out what that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be looking for your weakness and they're going to try and exploit it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to try and capitalize on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: for example, if you care about something too much, it can cause a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: IE, the classic example is like a mom joke, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, your mom was just over here, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a, it's a joke, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Occasionally, you see people fly off the handle with that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So now they've created a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: And look, I'm not saying that you don't care about your mom.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying you shouldn't defend your mom's honor and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm saying is they're going to be saying a bunch of stuff to get in your head.
[SPEAKER_00]: A bunch of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be doing things.
[SPEAKER_00]: to try and make you, to try and cost stress, they come in and start throwing your, you've spent all night organizing your locker for the locker inspection, they come in and start throwing things around and you spend a lot of time on it and you really care about it, bro, it's going to be much much worse than if you go out, that's funny, it's a game.
[SPEAKER_00]: So with highly stressful things, you know, obviously to touch, obviously take a step back, obviously don't let your emotions get involved, but one of the things that causes you to fail to detach and causes you to get emotional is when you care so much about something and you and you don't step away from that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So please, just chill, just relax a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: The stress is they're looking for indications of things that will make you freak out and they're going to focus on those things, that they're going to cause stress.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they don't quit attitude.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just don't give yourself another option, you know, this is not I don't have a great way to develop a don't quit attitude because I don't I never thought about it I didn't have to go through some protocol to come up with a no quit attitude.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I'm not gonna quit I wasn't even I didn't think really like I'm never gonna quit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never even thought that I never thought that I never thought like oh I I need to develop a no quit attitude.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never thought like never said
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't even thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be like if I said, hey, echo or you're going to go, you know, jump in the tar pit when we get done with this podcast, have you thought about that today?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've not thought about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how much I thought about quitting as much as you thought about going to jump in a tar pit after this podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't think about it at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I was.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would just get it completely out of your system.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not even a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even an option.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even thought about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you look like you're gonna say something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was thinking of, yes, we were talking to Andy Stomph, he said something.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it was a more specific version of he didn't have a plan B.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, Yeah, you don't want your plan B to do B to Temp thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you said that at that time he said it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the way he said it kind of made it slightly different, more specific, he said,
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, oh, I didn't have anything else better to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he said.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, oh, yeah, which kind of means like I didn't have a plan be I get that part of it, but it's like when you say I didn't have anything better to do it's kind of like yeah, I'm going to quit, but why would I quit?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like there's some relief somewhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have anywhere to be like I'm suffering here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of the only thing I've been thinking about, you know, like
[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt that too on little smaller levels obviously than compared to buds, but I remember one time, all my family was gone, and I was like, I went to workout, I was like, I'm not in the mood to workout or whatever, but you know, I'm out here working out and I'm like, what am I going to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not rushing to dinner and I think I literally have like all day and all night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: rack my brain for something to get done for sure, but I'm like, I don't have anything to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: My thoughts do this work out, seem to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like there's nothing, you're not quitting for anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, quitting doesn't seem like there's anything better to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you might just stick around kind of a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I was thinking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's it, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stress and oculation keep pushing yourself.
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