Your podcast audience may not be what you thought it was
This episode will challenge a lot of assumptions you may have about your audience. If you’ve been losing sleep over whether you need to shift all your energy into video, or feel the pressure to keep up with multi-camera setups just to stay relevant, you’re going to want to pay attention to this one.
We’re sharing new research from Tom Webster and the Sounds Profitable team that uncovers who your most valuable listeners really are — and it’s not who you think.
Link to report: https://soundsprofitable.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Audio-Primes-2026-Webinar-Version.pdf
If you've been seeing all the recent propaganda that the future
of podcasting is all in the video, and you've been
sort of panicking about Whether you need a four camera setup, a ring light,
and a face for, well, YouTube, I've got some
news that might let you sleep a little bit easier tonight. The most
valuable listening you have doesn't care what you look like, they care what
you sound like. They care what you have to say. And they're
significantly more likely to buy what you recommend and tell their
mates about your show and still be listening two years from
now.
Welcome to Podcasting Insights. I'm Neil Valio,
and we're going to talk about audio Primes. All right, first up,
some context. Tom Webster and the team at Sounds
Profitable have just recently published a piece of research
that that should frankly be required reading for
anyone making, commissioning, or advertising
on any podcast. It's about a segment they've named the
Audio Primes. One of the questions that we ask in the podcast
landscape is thinking about all the podcasts that you consume.
What percentage of them do you watch versus what percent you listen
to? And 22% of podcast
consumers say that they listen to three quarters
or more of their podcast. That's roughly one in
five. And on almost every metric that actually
matters to a business, they outperform the average
demographically. And this is going to be the bit that's going to really piss a
lot of people on LinkedIn off. They're younger, they're not older,
they over index in the 18 to 34 bracket. They
over index in the 35 to 54 bracket. They
under index at 55 plus. They've got more education,
they're earning more cash. 9% of them have a household
income of over 200 grand,
versus 6% of the average podcast consumer.
And this one is kind of interesting. They're more
likely to have kids at home, which, if you think about that for more than
a few seconds, makes perfect sense. Parents
need their hands and eyes free, and audio
is the only medium that delivers that. Now, here's where the
research gets quite interesting, because it's counterintuitive.
You'd assume that audioprimes listen because they don't like
video, but that's wrong. They consume more video
than average. They're significantly higher on YouTube,
they're higher on Instagram Reels, and they're higher on
TikTok. So they're not rejecting video. They're making an
active, deliberate choice when they consume a
podcast. You know, that specific deliberate act
of consuming the content. They want it in their ears.
And that distinction matters enormously because it means audio isn't the
default for them, it's the preference. And preference
is a much more powerful thing than than a default. Let's talk
loyalty, because this is kind of where it gets fun.
77% of audio primes listen to podcasts daily
or weekly, 18 points higher than the average.
72% use the same platform every time. Once
they're on your platform, they're not hopping away. They follow
fewer shows. In fact, 48% follow just one or two.
But when it comes to those one or two shows, they're ride or die.
It's all habit. It's part of their weekly rhythm. And my favorite
stat from the whole report, which you can find linked
from the episode description 22% of audio
primes say they have never stopped listening to a podcast
ever in their lives. Once they find the one they like,
they just keep going with it. It's appointment to
download, which should make every podcaster listening to
my voice right now stop and breathe for just a second.
You are building something that has the potential to become
sticky if you do it right. And of course everyone
wants to know about ads, because if you are monetizing,
this is the bit you're going to need to know. Audio Primes don't really care
about ad volume. They under index on too many
ads as a reason to quit out of a podcast. What they do care
about is relevance. They over index on
the ads weren't relevant as a reason to quit a show.
So translated into simple terms,
audio Primes will happily listen to ads.
They just want them to make sense to them and
for the show, for the topic. Dumping a
generic programmatic spot into a niche show is going to
hurt this audience, whereas a thoughtful
contextual host thread endorsement will probably land with them.
So there's a lesson in there for anyone building a monetization strategy
based on dynamic ad insertion alone. It's
probably not going to work, particularly if you're farming that out
to the likes of Libsyn ads or
Acast ads. Now, the Sounds Profitable team brought
in a real neuroscientist on all this, Alberto, who
broke down what's actually happening in the brain when you're listening to a voice
that you've heard before. And it comes down to three key things, all right? Number
one, oxytocin, also known as the bonding
hormone. It's what mothers produce when they're breastfeeding, and it's
what you produce when you hear the voice of A podcast host that you listen
to regularly. Number two, mirror neurons.
These are firing up when you empathize with another human. When your favorite
host sounds sad, your brain goes a bit sad. When they laugh,
you smile. You are literally
neurologically mirroring them. And point three,
mere exposure. Now, this is the compounding effect that we talk about
when it comes to showing up regularly. Consistency.
Week after week, month after month, that familiarity
accrues into trust. And trust in this space is
the single scarcest resource on earth. So if
you put all three of those together, you get what psychologists call
a parasocial relationship. A one way bond where
the listener genuinely feels like the host is their friend. And
did you know audio creates a stronger parasocial
bond than video does? Because video gives your brain too many
things to focus on. You're looking at things, whereas
audio strips it to voice and words. You're not
watching someone, you're sitting with them. Or as
Alberto in this webinar put it, a screen makes you a spectator.
A voice makes you a friend. Which, frankly, I might get
printed on a T shirt. We gotta address the elephant in the room here,
AI because this came up in the research and it's relevant to the point as
well. Audio primes really, really, really don't want AI generated
voices. In fact, about half say they'd be less likely to keep
listening if they found out their favorite show was AI
voiced. Only 15% said they'd be more likely to keep listening.
Video primes, which is those people who mostly watch, are
far more open to synthetic voices, probably because
they're being subjected to them all the time. With AI
generated slop on TikTok and Reels, they've become
desensitized to it. For those of us in the audio first world,
that is a useful line drawn in the sand. Your audience
came to you for a human, so don't feed them a machine.
Okay, so what to actually do with this information? And let me turn all of
this into something you can actually Action. If audio primes
are your most valuable audience and the data is pretty
unambiguous that they are, here's what the research
is telling you to do. Number one, be consistent. Whatever your
cadence. Weekly, fortnightly, monthly, be there. The mere
exposure effect only works if you actually expose.
So don't do what I did with this show and go silent for a month.
In fact, it was more than a month. Show up. Do the recordings
publish. Number two, be human. Your voice is literally your
superpower. So don't outsource that to any AI software.
Yeah, it's really impressive. What 11 labs can do. Use
it as a backup. Don't lean on it. Point 3 Be relevant with
your ads. Don't just take a paycheck. Ask whether the ad
fits with your audience and read it with some
thought behind it. Make sure there's alignment there. Point four
don't obsess about video. Sure have a YouTube presence.
That's fine. They are still saying it's the number one Discovery channel. Well,
whether we like that or not, there might be some truth to it. It has
a great search engine. But don't sacrifice the thing that
makes audio work in pursuit of video metrics that don't really translate to
loyalty anyway. Number 5 Nurture the word of
mouth. Audio primes tend to recommend shows to their friends
a 30 second if you enjoyed this, tell someone who'd like it.
That's worth way more than most paid marketing. Point six
Think about your listeners. Being parents, hands
free, eyes free isn't a nice to have for them, it's a necessity.
And it's a genuinely underserved market. Think about how your content
can reach people where they are and how they consume. Thanks
for listening. Send me your thoughts. You'll find me on LinkedIn. Or if you want
to go to Podmastery Co and get in
touch that way until the next episode. Good luck with your
continuing journey towards pod mastery.
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insights.