← Back to Podcast/Siri Power Moves, CarPlay Smarts, and Phil Schiller's SXSW Stories
Episode Transcript

Siri Power Moves, CarPlay Smarts, and Phil Schiller's SXSW Stories

Siri Power Moves, CarPlay Smarts, and Phil Schiller's SXSW Stories – Mac Geek Gab 1134 episode image

You’ll come away from this episode with a faster, smarter iPhone and Mac workflow dialed in. You learn how to boss Siri around for brightness, Dark Mode, CarPlay directions, and per‑source audio levels, so your phone actually behaves in the car and on the couch. You tap into power‑user gestures like two‑finger‑tap to open links in a new Safari tab, Quick Actions to spin anything into a PDF, and Option‑click display rotation on the Mac. You even get sneaky with ad‑supported games by flipping Airplane Mode, and peek at where on‑device AI is heading with tools like Locally AI from the SXSW “more personal computer” session.

Then you shift into solving real listener problems so your Apple gear finally stays in sync with you. You clean up contact groups, fix that iPad Mail inbox that doesn’t match your other devices, and fight back against toll‑free robocalls. You hear which iPhone cases and glass protectors the geeks actually trust, plus protection options like Verizon Home Protect and automation tools like Crank to trigger actions based on what you’re doing. The whole way through, you’re reminded of the Mac Geek Gab mantra: Don’t Get Caught missing the tweaks, tricks, and Cool Stuff Found that make your Apple life smoother.

It's time for Matt Geek Cabin. Listener Ian, well, future listener Ian,

brings us our quick tip of the week.

Ian was my Uber driver in Austin on the way to the airport yesterday when I

was flying home from South by Southwest.

And Ian did something in the car that I never thought to do.

He was using his phone. His car did not have CarPlay.

He was using his phone for, you know, his Uber and navigation and all that stuff.

And he asked Siri, turn up the brightness.

And then Siri did that for him. And I was like, whoa, I never even thought to

do that. He's like, yeah, of course.

He's like, you know, because sometimes when I'm driving, the sun gets too bright,

which it was that particular morning in Austin.

And it worked great. Never thought to do it. You can learn these quick tips anywhere.

We just keep our minds open. More quick tips like this, plus your questions

answered and some cool stuff found today here on MacGeekGab 1134 for Monday,

March 23rd, World Math Day 2026.

Greetings, folks, and welcome to MacGeek, the show where you send in or present

us with quick tips like that, and we share them.

You present us with cool stuff found, and we share them. You present us with

questions, and we share them and discuss answers or at least possible solution paths.

The goal being that each and every one of us learns at least five new things

every single time we get together.

Our sponsors for this episode include Shopify.com slash MGG,

where you can sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today.

Gusto.com slash MGG, where you get three months for free when you run your first payroll.

And Pocket Hose, where the way this works is you text MGG to 64000 on your phone,

and that gets you a free Pocket Pivot and their 10-pattern sprayer with the

purchase of any size copperhead hose.

We'll talk more about all of this in a little bit for now back here in Durham,

New Hampshire. I'm Dave Hamilton.

And still here in South Dakota. I'm Adam Christensen

And pilot Pete is it's the silent Pete day.

He's he's here supporting us from the background, but he's in an environment.

He's traveling in an environment where that is not conducive to podcasting, unfortunately.

So Pete's here far more than in spirit. he's just you're not going to hear him today so there you go.

He is yeah he's lurking

He's lurking he's doing more than lurking he's actually

doing a lot of the video production and stuff as he usually does

so yeah he's usually our tech yeah

he really is yeah uh so thank

you pete all right um let's see

our monthly giveaway remains uh

i'm getting back into the swing of things uh we literally recorded

an episode what on uh the tuesday before

i left for south by on wednesday and now i flew back on

thursday and we're recording on friday so it all feels very sort of

crazy uh but our giveaway is still uh the sound source with rogue amoeba at

mac geekup.com slash giveaway so go check that out and uh and go download the

mac geek app too uh for for everything really it's optimized currently we've

been focusing on sort of bringing it up to speed for iphone it does work on iPad and Mac as well.

But go check out the app. Let us know what you think. And we're going to keep

iterating on it because it's fun.

Um, yeah. All right. I guess we should keep moving on quick tips,

Adam, unless there's something else. Okay, great.

So, um, in a, in a similar vein as the tip from Ian, uh, Scott wrote in,

uh, we talked about toggling dark mode and long pressing the brightness.

It turns out you don't have to long press the brightness or the volume knob in control center.

You just tap them and it comes up. So that was from, I believe,

new listener Allison had sent that in as a bonus quick tip.

But even easier, Scott points out, is just ask Siri, turn on dark mode.

No taps, no looking around for menus or sliders.

And then, of course, turn off dark mode does just what you would expect.

Lots easier never even thought about doing these things with the s lady so yeah you.

Know i think um i think this is a symptom of the s lady early on getting a very bad rap

Fair and.

I think like if we would use our digital assistance more we might discover more

of these little features and functionalities you know what i mean

I i do i i i have

to counter that i know last week i was i was doing

my darndest to remain positive about everything and i'll i'll keep

i'll keep that in mind but there are so many things that i try to have siri

do and fail that i that i i perhaps it curbs my,

um yeah my experimentation because i i just assume failure i don't know you know well.

That was exactly my point

Yeah yeah yeah i know but like so.

It's like you're surprised when like oh i didn't know that would work i didn't

even think to try because i wouldn't have because i just assumed that wouldn't

work yeah you know like we get in this spiral

We get in the spiral i i tried before i left frost and i was packing the weekend

before and even though i stay at the same hotel every single time i go to south

by um i i never i this is the first time lisa came with me,

and so i was she asked me she's like

is there a pool at our hotel i'm like you know what i have i have no idea i've

never used the pool and we didn't use the pool there is a

pool but we did not use the pool this week either because there's no

time for that as lisa learned right uh you're

you're always on the go what do you mean relax i don't understand uh

and so i just asked siri

i'm like siri is there a pool at at my hotel now

siri has my calendar on the device right so and

it has the ability to um to

search the web like it could get all of this information and

it like it didn't even like the answer to

the question didn't even indicate that

it understood the context that i was asking was like i don't know about

austin hotels and it was like yeah okay okay

never mind so i asked my open claw agent the same question it was like yes do

you want me to build you a packing list based on the weather and this that and

the other thing i'm like see this is what i want from my digital agent so um

but yeah you're right yeah like but it's so close and i i really want to say this um.

Apple's device Apple has no great

surprise had a lot more foresight into this AI thing than we give them credit

for because every Apple device that we have is perfectly built to run local AI models on device.

And that's why people are picking up Mac minis to run all their open cloud agents

and all that stuff because the hardware is literally built to do this.

So once Apple figures it out and rolls it out, this is going to be like these

devices that we already have are going to be amazing.

And I realized that I said once Apple, one could say, if Apple,

I'm going to, I'm going to hold that hope here.

But, but like these devices really are purpose built for this,

perhaps more than anything else that they're purpose built for.

But you know so there's my there's my positive spin on all this yeah.

I've never i to back to your original point i've never

understood the lack of local sort of

data integration with their own apps you know that whole calendar thing yeah

like you would think that context of you wouldn't have to get specific and say

does this specific hotel in austin have a pool you know you should be able just say, hey,

I'm staying, you know, does the hotel I'm staying at this weekend,

because it's on your calendar, have a pool.

And it should be able to go to the integrated data. It's funny you said search the web.

Maps has an integration with what they use for their data, Yelp.

Yes. And Yelp knows if the hotel has a pool.

Yes. It's in the little features. Like if you look up the location at Yelp,

I guarantee you, it'll say, here's the amenities.

Yes. Right. It's already there. That's the frustrating part. It's like partner.

It doesn't have to go out to a random website and do a search.

You could just go to their already approved maps data partner.

Yep.

And get the data there. Yeah.

So, yep.

It's crazy.

I know it, it's, um, it, it, yeah, it's frustrating. It's frustrating.

I get you. But again, I give Siri some grace once in a while and,

and I'm often surprised by what she's able to do.

Well, and, and in the, in the interest of things like these quick tips,

the two that we've already mentioned, uh,

trying those things sometimes you will

be pleasantly surprised and and and then

it becomes part of your workflow and then you don't even think about it anymore so

like it yeah i know it's

it's it's close i i did want to while

we're kind of on the subject at south by

southwest i i saw a lot of things we'll talk about a couple

of them here and then probably they'll pepper in through episodes uh

over the next couple of weeks but uh i went and

saw vera kachenko who is one

of the co-founders of mac paw and also their chief technology and

innovation officer she went and spoke on local

ai uh and and briefly

mentioned their product any anyway which is

the the kind of their take on a local

ai that runs on your mac but really the session was just about running ai models

locally in general which is faster uh more more private i don't want to say

more secure although that's probably true too because you're not sending data

to the cloud it's all running locally and um.

To the point I made earlier, there are apps that you can download to run local models on your phone,

and you can even query Apple's local model on your phone, or you can download

third-party models like you could with, like, Olama and things like that.

And one app that she mentioned is called LocallyAI, L-O-C-A-L-L-Y-A-I.app.

Of course, there's a link in the show notes.

And it will be your local chatbot. And I tried it in airplane mode on the airplane

without Wi-Fi connected. And it works great.

So it's not just functional and interesting to be able to use,

But it's an example of this idea that our iPhones really are built to run these

models very efficiently.

So, yeah, there's hope for the future here. So, anyway, I just wanted to mention

that Vera did that. Yeah, all right, back to quick tips, shall we?

Yeah, so Bill has a little bit of a follow-up. He said, a few weeks ago,

I was fumbling around getting some directions going in CarPlay.

Unfortunately, somehow I managed to turn off spoken directions without knowing

what I did. Yes, I was driving at the time.

I couldn't get them back on again even after I got home. I looked in CarPlay

settings, map settings, notification settings, and other places I could think of.

Fortunately, an internet search led me to the answer.

You must be, and to get this to work, you need to be in navigation mode. So just be aware of this.

So you already need to be in maps. you already need to be navigating somewhere before this work um

And what you need to do is, on the first screen, tap the little area at the bottom, I think it is.

Oh, no, on the left, there is a little speaker icon when you're navigating.

So there's like the direction icon.

And then under that, there is a speaker icon, and that will bring up the voice controls.

And then in the voice controls, you have muted, alerts only,

and unmuted you got to make sure you're unmuted and you also have

a couple of volume options softer normal louder um and

then he says later he did notice there's another way to get to the voice controls although

like before you have to be in navigation mode go to the bottom of the screen

as if you were going to add a stop you know so when you can swipe up from the

bottom and get more details about your trip um and then down if you scroll down

down at the bottom under that there is voice controls as well right above the end route button.

And he says why these voice controls can't seemingly be accessed elsewhere in

this settings app is beyond me but don't get caught like I did.

Huh. Interesting. Yeah.

Yeah.

No, go ahead.

Yeah, I've run into this before too, where suddenly the S lady is not giving

me my turn-by-turn directions verbally, and it's like, what the heck happened?

And getting them turned back on can be tricky. So that's where it is, little speaker icon.

I would assume it's similar in CarPlay, if you have CarPlay.

I think all the same controls are there.

It is, but I will point out, the controls are not on screen.

Until you tap the screen and then they

sort of light up so i my sister texted me

i don't know i don't know a couple of months ago or something and it was like

how do i get carplay to you know do talk to me again it's like right tap the

screen then look in the it's kind of upper right ish area and you'll either

see the speaker icon or the kind of alerts icon tap that and then you get your choices so.

Yeah but again key you got to be navigating can't just have the maps app up

Right Right. Right. And go ahead.

Active route going. Sorry.

No, no. Well, while we're on this subject, actually a question that Ian,

my Uber driver, asked me yesterday was how do I adjust the volume of Siri?

It says every time i go to adjust the volume

it adjusts the volume of the music not of siri

and the the way i

know how to do that is to adjust

the volume actively while siri

is speaking to you because it the volume buttons try to be intelligent and and

the same with your volume knob if you connect it to carplay and that sort of

thing it will adjust the volume of the currently playing sound source.

And you do have different volume levels for all of them.

But the only way I know how to do it, maybe there is another way,

if you know another way, feedback at MacGeekEd.com.

Yeah, if you do know another way, feedback at macgeekab.com.

And as Pete would like to say, feedback at macgeekab.com, if he could speak.

If Pete could speak. I mean, he can speak. We just can't hear him.

He may be saying it out loud, for all we know.

I actually do know one other way. Now, again, this doesn't work for the CarPlay

directions thing, because, again, that's a separate setting.

You can access the louder, softer. So the directions thing, I'm just talking about General S-Lady.

So S-Lady is not, you can ask S-Lady because I do this all the time with my

HomePods and I'm pretty, I'm 95% sure it would work with your iOS devices too.

You say, S-Lady, talk louder or speak louder.

Oh, really?

Yeah, just ask her. Speak up.

Huh.

I know it works on the HomePod, so I would assume it works on the phone as well.

And she will adjust just her volume, not the overall volume.

Yeah. Huh. Interesting. Love it.

All right. Let's see. Henry has our next quick tip for us. He says,

a good day, gentlemen of the geek gab.

Mere hours ago, I happened upon

a new quick tip that I shall be employing post haste in mobile safari.

To open a link of hyper in a new tab, simply tap it with thine two fingers.

No longer needest thou to tap and hold on thine one finger and then select open in background.

Thy humble servant, Henry. well i thank you

henry um that's really

interesting i i hadn't i had never known that before

so to open a link uh in

a new tab you just tap it you do a two finger single tap so it's a double finger

single tap say that 10 times fast uh and you just tap it instead of long pressing

on it uh yeah interesting all right i did not know that one yeah great.

Quick and easy. I got another quick and easy one from Etcetera, ETC, as it were.

Fellow geeks, this may be one of those cool stuffs that everyone already knew

except me, but it's too good, rather, not to share.

I have to arrange single-page PDFs into one document many times over the years

and have always used a much slower process, which I've already purged from my memory.

A much simpler and faster process is select the target PDFs in Finder,

right-click over one of the selected files, scroll down to Quick Actions,

and click on Create PDF. That's it.

If necessary, the order can be rearranged in preview, but for bulk consideration,

this is working great for me.

Don't get caught, and I did it right, saying, etc. et cetera. There you go.

Yeah, I never thought about that. I'm thinking about two things at one step.

First is that I learned a thing, which I love.

And the second is his sort of buried quick tip, which is that you can rearrange

the order of the pages in a PDF in preview.

You can add pages. You can do merging of PDFs in preview too.

In fact, you can be very granular about it. You can say, I want this one page from this PDF.

And you literally open the thumbnails view, which is not necessarily always open.

You go to, I think it's view and thumbnails or show thumbnails.

And then that's where you can rearrange things. You can delete specific pages.

That's where you can drag other pages from other PDFs that are open in and do all those things.

It's quite powerful for that kind of thing. Yeah.

Well, yeah. Yeah, the only place where I think this gets confusing and where

this tip about merging all of them from the quick action is helpful is if you

select a bunch of PDFs in the Finder and then open all of them,

they will open in a single preview window.

When you open the pages thing, they'll still be individual pages,

but it'll look like a multi-page and it's very confusing.

So I've run into that problem before where I've thought, oh,

now they're all in one. I'll just do a save as and I'll have one PDF with three things in it.

It's like, nope, it only saves the one that you were previewing. And so like,

Your tip is correct. You've got to open each one in its own individual preview

window, and then you can drag the page over and then combine it.

But if you open them all from the Finder as one preview window,

it'll still be three separate documents or however many PDFs you open. So that gets confusing.

You can do the dragging in the one sort of monolithic window,

but you need to, I think you need to know what you just said before you start

doing that because otherwise it's not clear that you can do it.

There's, there's some sort of subtle visual indicator to separate the multiple

PDFs from each other. And you also see the page.

Yeah. The page. Yeah. It's like a line, but the page numbers also reset to like,

you know, it'll go one, two, three, four, five, one, two, you know? Yeah.

So I forget all the tricks,

But it's confusing, but it is doable, but yeah, do it the other way first,

just to get your bearings. And then, then you can, you know,

get advanced with it. Yeah.

Although now I just tried opening multiple selected PDFs from the Finder and

they opened in separate windows. So maybe that behavior has changed. I don't know.

With 26. I don't think I've done this since going to 26.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it could be different there.

It was used to open as a single PDF in the past.

Yeah, KiwiGram is in our Discord chat is saying, yes, he also believes it has changed in 2026.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe for that exact reason, because it was really confusing.

KiwiGram also adds a corollary to our discussion here. And this is that dragging

multiple text files into a single BBEdit window will paste them sequentially

in the order that you selected them.

Ooh. I know.

I feel like I have a use case for this, but I can't think of it at the moment.

But we'll come up with it, I'm sure.

That's cool.

Yeah. um in system settings

mickey tells us uh that mac

os is annoying and that it hides the monitor rotation option

by default uh on the desktop but

not on laptops however there

is an easy fix you can get system settings

displays to show rotation as an option

by yep holding the option key while

opening settings and selecting displays and then

the option uh for rotating the display

appears there and this can be really handy if

you've got a monitor that you want you know

that you want to put the monitor like if you've got it in landscape mode you

want it in portrait mode some monitors will automatically send that signal upstream

uh but others you just have to tell the the Mac what to do so very handy cool

yep pretty good oh thanks Mickey.

All right. I have one from my wife, actually.

Amazing. This was great.

She came to me.

This came up in a normal conversation. She had recently gone on a trip and came

back and told me about this.

And I went, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Why didn't I think of that?

So she has a lot of iOS games. I don't know what's going on with the camera.

That's me. I realized I should stop here because I was messing with your sound.

I realized you had echo, echo cancellation turned on for your thing. Oh, sorry.

Well, but when I turned it off, your volume took a huge nosedive that I couldn't fix.

So I turned your echo cancellation back on, but I have noticed it a couple of

times today while we've been talking that it gets a little herky jerky.

Sorry about that. No, but maybe in a bit, you can just give us more gain and

then I'll, and then turn off echo cancellation and then we'll,

we'll get there. But anyway, please finish your thought. My apologies.

No, so my thought was she had gone on a trip recently, and she plays a lot of

games downloaded from the App Store on her phone.

She likes to get different games, like solitaire games and puzzle games.

And most recently, she's been trying to learn, I think, Pinochle.

So she had downloaded some sort of Pinochle app that was ad-supported.

But it's, you know, like a lot of these apps, they're like really,

really, really annoying with the volume of ads that you get,

right? It's like ad, ad, ad, ad, ad.

And while she was traveling, she was on the plane in airplane mode,

and she noticed, I don't get ads in airplane mode.

So the tip here is, if you have one of these apps that's overly annoying and

cumbersome with its ads, put your phone in airplane mode, and then it can't

download and grab new ads.

And so you will not get ads in your app.

Now, I'm all, again, for supporting developers.

If you find something that you really like and it's

ad supported it's annoying and you can turn off ads by paying

a couple bucks i would encourage you to pay a couple bucks you know

if you really like it but a lot of times the stuff you know she's

grabbing this little throwaway stuff she's just going to use it for a little bit and

not really hold on to it um and and

again sometimes it's only ad supported and you

know that's fine too maybe turn it on a little

bit give them a couple bucks but if they're you know you know what i'm talking

about some of these apps some of these apps are just like really junky and really

spammy um and we'd like to have balance but so this is a way you can not get

spammed completely and i thought that was great i was like that makes total sense i

I i'm actually i like it that i i like i like your sentiment here but but what

i'll add is that and and this is obviously coming from someone who has spent

decades successfully running ad-supported businesses,

I think you must, people in our position must...

Keep the user experience in

mind because people like, and I kind of think my life is our lives here.

In fact, are a Testament to this. If you do that, people will happily support

you and pay attention to the sponsors that you want to bring them.

But when you turn it into times square of advertising and you just ham fistedly

shove all that stuff in front of people, it ruins the user experience.

And therefore, you know, they probably aren't paying attention to the ads anyway.

The ads aren't as valuable, all of that stuff. There's a reason that,

you know, we cap this show. Generally speaking, a maximum of four sponsors.

Obviously, I listen to other podcasts. I hear that, you know,

I'll get six sponsors before I even hear from the host at the beginning.

So, like, yeah, there's – use your own stuff if you're going to be ad supported.

Like, feel it out. Feel what it's like.

So anyway yeah there's just about i think the

point is is there's a balance and again a lot of these apps right

are coming out of the you know app mills out of china and it's just like that's

their model is just like yes you know to churn these things out they're dime

a dozen and it's one company and they're getting ads from you know thousands

of apps so don't i don't feel too bad for them honestly right right yeah

Yeah it's a different business model there you go,

Yeah. And they they know what they've gotten themselves into. All right.

Speaking while we're on this subject, it seems this is not really planned.

So my apologies for the for for what might look like a ham fisted thing,

but it's really not. It's it is time.

And I love that we get to tell you about our sponsors.

And that's what I want to do right now. You know how we're always trying to

automate the boring stuff, right?

So we don't get caught wasting time on it instead of like geeking out on our

Macs and having fun and doing stuff.

Well, our sponsor Gusto is online payroll and benefits software built for small businesses.

It's all in one remote friendly and incredibly easy to use.

So you can pay higher onboard and support your team from anywhere.

I love that it just files the payroll taxes. It handles the direct deposit and

it would let me run unlimited payrolls for one monthly price.

No hidden fees, no surprises.

It feels like adding a rock solid background process to your business that just

runs so you can focus on the fun stuff because that's what I love about running

a business is focusing on the fun stuff.

So you take the things that you don't like and you like payroll and you bring

in a service like Gusto that just like does it. And then you get to do the fun stuff.

Try Gusto today at gusto.com slash MGG and get three months free when you run

your first payroll. Yeah, I know.

That's three months of free payroll at gusto.com slash MGG.

One more time, gusto.com slash MGG and our thanks to Gusto for sponsoring this episode.

As tech people here, right, as nerds, we love gear that just works.

And the pocket hose copperhead feels like that smart home version of a garden hose.

Old school hoses kink right up at the spigot. But this one has their pocket

pivot that swivels 360 degrees.

So you get full water flow and can walk all the way around the yard without fighting this thing.

It's amazing. You got to check this out. When you're done, it shrinks back down

to pocket size for easy, tidy storage.

No winding, no wrestling, totally frictionless.

Plus, it's super light, ultra durable, and backed by a 10-year warranty. I know.

So you're not buying this thing again next season. The brand new Pocket Hose

Copperhead with Pocket Pivot, it's a total game changer. And you know our rule.

Don't get caught without the right tools. Well, for a limited time,

you, our listeners, can get a free Pocket Pivot and their 10-pattern sprayer

with the purchase of any size copperhead hose.

The way you do it, just text MGG to 64000. That's MGG to 64000 for your two

free gifts with purchase.

MGG to 64000.

Message and data rates may apply. see their terms for details and go check this out.

I think you're going to love it. And our thanks to Pocket Hose for sponsoring this episode.

And I'll tell you, when we started like Mac Observer and MGG and BackBeat and

the rest of my businesses, every time it feels like I suddenly have to wear

every hat at once, right?

Tech, design, marketing, all of it. If I don't wear it, it ain't getting done.

And that can be overwhelming. It gets overwhelming really quickly.

For millions of creators and entrepreneurs, our sponsor Shopify is the built-in

business partner that takes a huge chunk of that off your plate.

From beautiful store templates to AI that actually helps you write product descriptions

and headlines, plus tools that handle inventory, payments, and even international

shipping in one clean dashboard.

It's like adding a full stack commerce team to your solo operation so you can

focus on building cool stuff and of course, making sure you don't get caught.

I've been using Shopify with a couple of businesses for a while now,

and I wouldn't do it any other way.

You gotta check this out. Start your business today with the industry's best

business partner, Shopify, and start hearing ka-ching, right?

Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com slash MGG.

Go to shopify.com slash MGG. That's shopify.com slash MGG.

Go check it out. I think you're going to like it. And our thanks to Shopify

for sponsoring this episode.

So I was at South by Southwest last week, Adam,

and on Wednesday, which was the final day of South by, there was a session that

was David Pogue, who many people in the Apple universe know.

He obviously is an author, maybe not obviously.

He is an author. He's written a lot of books about technology and Apple.

He's CBS Sunday morning for the last number of years. He wrote for Macworld

magazine for a long time.

Long-standing journalist in the community he just put out a book apple the first

50 years and this session was

ostensibly him telling stories from his book he's on a book tour right but.

It wasn't because he was joined by phil schiller

uh for this particular session he's

been going around david's been going around the country doing these um

you know these these kind of book tour things and

promoting his book but i

think this was the only one where he had phil schiller with him phil schiller now

is an apple fellow he was the head of

marketing for apple worked very closely with steve jobs for

a number of years and phil has stories this

was i think david maybe spoke 10 of the

time at which if you know david is no

small feat uh but he understood what he had on stage with him obviously and

he was just as happy to hear phil stories as all of us in the room were and

phil wound up telling him a lot of stories that weren't even in the book because

david would be like you didn't tell me this for the book he's like you didn't ask,

it this it i almost didn't go to this wednesday was uh it was about 80 degrees in austin this.

Sunday night, Monday and Tuesday were cold in Austin. Like it was down in the forties.

We wound up doing a lot of things outside because you wind up doing that for

South by, but you know, we were like as bundled up as we could be with whatever

we brought and to finally have a nice day where there was an afternoon,

it was a bunch of music happening.

It's like, man, I really don't want to go to this thing.

And simply because of the time, like I have one last day in Austin.

I don't want to spend it in a conference hall somewhere.

And then I looked, I'm like, right. Wait, Schiller's joining him.

I got to go to this. I am so happy I went.

It was the most candid I've ever seen Phil Schiller be in public.

And he was just relaxed. It was pretty clear that I'm sure there were things

he would not talk about. but it was the most candid I've ever seen him.

It was just amazing. And he, and he told some fun stories about Steve and,

and, and just being at Apple and those sorts of things.

So I wanted to share a couple of them with you.

One, my favorite one was.

When they announced the iBook, Phil famously did his jump with the iBook from stage at Macworld Expo.

The way that this happened, the way this came to be was they were in Apple's

headquarters, you know, or in building three at Apple's headquarters or whatever.

And they were testing Wi-Fi because the iBook was the first laptop that ever had Wi-Fi.

It was really the first device that brought Wi-Fi to the consumer market.

And uh and so they were

testing it by um they had put

the guts of an ibook they they they had them

inside the building but of course they back in

those days and probably these days too they couldn't put any

unannounced product outside but they

wanted to test this thing and so they took a huge

like three foot flick doll from uh

from a bug's life because steve happened to be you know

working at both companies at the at the time and they took the guts of an iBook

and strapped it to this flick doll and also added an accelerometer to it like

you'd use for like a science experiment or whatever and uh and put a bungee

cord on it and dropped it from the roof of the building.

And as it uh as it

bounced they could be in the office watching it

bounce outside and then seeing the readings coming through

from the accelerometer on a computer inside using wi-fi

this doesn't seem like a big deal today because we're all very used to wi-fi

but back then it was a huge thing to be able to like get real-time readings

from this thing that was bouncing outside what couldn't be i mean it could have

been connected via ethernet because there's a bunch of work but you know you

get what we're saying and as soon as they saw this demo steve was like we have

to do this at macworld expo.

And, uh, and Phil's like, yeah, okay, sure. It's like, but it has to be a person.

It can't be, uh, a, you know, it can't be a doll or something.

That's not going to be fun.

And he, and he turns to Phil and he says, you're it.

And so Phil, Phil's like, oh no, no, no, no, no. Come on, man.

He's like, and he said to Phil, which I love, cause we all know it wasn't true.

If you do this, you'll never have to do another demo again.

Right yeah yeah

Of course uh phil did many many many demos after

this but uh so okay fine so all right

they're doing this at the jacob javits center in new york fine good

stuff they get there and the people at

the javits center are like uh you know like the techs at

the javits center they get there like the weekend before to start doing rehearsals and

they're like right so we've got this rigged up but

um oh one very important thing

phil said to steve i'll do it but i'm

not signing any waivers if i he's

like if i get killed i want my family to basically own all

of apple and steve's like yeah sounds good what we'll take care of your family

phil like you're good no problem no waiver necessary great fine so they get

to the javits center and you know the people who are doing the rigging and all

that stuff are like well so like

we think this is going to work But the building's not really that tall.

So we kind of like we're going to need to put a lot of extra harnessing on you.

And this, that and the other thing, we might really need to put something on

the ground just in case you hit.

And this and Phil's like, well, this sounds dumb now.

I don't want to do this with extra harnessing and like a, you know,

bubble suit on or whatever. He's like, that's not going to look good.

And he's like, why don't I just jump and you guys figure out something safe

for me to land on? Okay, fine.

So that's that's the path. They re-engineer everything.

They hire a stunt coordinator to teach him, like, kick your legs while you're

falling to make it look like it takes longer. And so they're doing all this stuff.

And Phil tests it. He goes up, you know, they built like a scaffolding behind the stage.

And it's like, okay, 10 feet. He does his fall grade, you know, whatever, 20 feet.

Okay, fine. And then like 35 feet, whatever the thing was. And he's like,

well, this is much higher than I thought it would be. But he does the jumps. Everything's fine.

So now the room's full. We're all there.

Crowd is chanting for Steve. And I'm pretty sure that was the one where Noah

Wiley came out as Steve, as an anecdote.

That was my first time seeing Steve. So I was sort of confused when Noah Wiley came out. But so...

Crowd's chanting, ready for

the keynote to start. And a Javits Center representative comes up to Mr.

Schiller with a waiver in his hand and says, hey, you can't do this until you

sign our waiver, you know, absolving us of all responsibility for this crazy

thing you're about to do.

And Phil's like, no, I don't sign waivers. Of course, the crowd's still chanting,

Steve, Steve. You know, they want Steve on stage.

Phil's like, no, it's not going to happen. And they're like,

well, then you can't go. And he's like, whatever, 5,000 people out there might

feel differently. So still waiting for the keynote to start.

Apple's chief legal counsel comes over and she asks, okay, what's going on?

And the people at Javits Center are like, well, this is it. She takes out her business card and a pen.

And on the back of her business card, she writes a waiver that she signs on behalf of Apple,

absolving the Javits Center of all responsibility and that Apple will own any

problems that haven't happened,

hands that to them there javits center

council looks at it and says looks good to me and off the show went yeah yeah

yeah it was interesting another fun story and i actually i'm gonna put this

to all of you as the audience because i don't know phil did not share the specific,

of this when he left apple for a brief period of time because he just couldn't

deal with how inefficient things are being run and then steve brought him back famously uh.

One of the examples he shared on stage

as to how dysfunctional things were was that there was a time where two different

divisions inside Apple had applied for the same trademark for two different

products that were being worked on.

And then we're using the trademark office to fight over which Apple division

could get the trademark. And the trademark office called them up and was like,

we've never seen this before.

It's your company. You decide we're not going to be the arbiters of this. Like, that's insane.

You people figure it out. So I like that was just an example.

But what I want to know, and this was probably early 90s, I would guess early to maybe mid 90s.

I want to know what was the product name? And I don't know.

I submitted it as a question to the thing, and it just didn't make it on the

list. So I have not found out.

But some folks, I posted this online. Somebody thought maybe Newton.

But I think that probably would have been prior to this. Maybe not, though.

No, it could be Newton. Or E-Mate was the other one.

So I don't know. If you know, feedback at MackeyCab.com. But it was a great session.

I don't my guess is it was not recorded or you know streamed or anything but

if it was highly recommend I'll put a link in the show notes and uh to the south

by page for it but highly it was so it was it reminded me of like.

The Phil Schiller that we all kind of got to know decades ago where he was just happy, go lucky.

And he looks really good. He's he's slimmed down quite a bit and he was, you know, energy.

It was like, it was Phil, you know, it's great. Loved it.

So anyway, cool. Yeah. All right.

Should, should we.

Should we move on to questions? Yeah. Okay.

Then I, That means I have to find Joe's question for you, which,

of course, I will do because it's what I do. All right, here we go.

Joe says, I have a group in Contacts to which I've added several names and removed a few.

When I look at it in Contacts, I see the current updated list.

Contacts lists it in iCloud, and it only exists there. So it's part of his iCloud Contacts.

When I attempt to use this group in Mail, I only get the old version.

What is mail looking at and how do I get mail to grab the current updated version?

Yeah, I immediately thought to the classic mail issue that you have any time

that you're doing contacts and the contacts are weird.

And that is the previous recipients list in mail, which is super, super annoying.

I don't know why it is the default place that Mail wants to look to find contact

information when you have perfectly good contact information in your contacts app.

But okay, Apple, I don't know why this hasn't been changed or fixed or reprioritized.

It just seems to always get in the way.

I don't know if this is going to solve Joe's problem. But my assumption would

be the first thing I would check is go into mail, go under the window menu, sort of at the end.

There's something called previous recipients. And that is a list of everybody

you've ever sent an email to in the list.

And it pulls data from that when you're doing new emails. It's like,

oh, you must mean to send it to so-and-so.

And if you put a typo in there, those will start to show up like weird stuff

happens. So I would review that list,

Check through there.

You can search it. See if your group is in there because it does put groups in there.

I verified this and remove it

and then hopefully it'll pull it now from contacts

and then be fine from that point forward so

I'm I have a feeling it's almost like a cache right it's

like it's like cached in mail it's not going to go look in contacts it's going

to look in mail it just needs to have its cache flushed in sort of a way yeah

if that doesn't work the only other tip that I could think of is if go to contacts

first as annoying as that would be you can go to contacts Go to your group in

the group list and contacts, right click on it and say,

send email to this group.

And then it will open mail with that list populated.

But hopefully it's just the previous recipients thing. I don't know of anything

else. I don't know if you have any other ideas, Dave.

No, I think that's also where I would look at this too.

To answer what was probably a semi-rhetorical question, is why does Apple do this? I think...

Uh efficiency speed right if they

can cash it in mail then they can

then it's just faster than constantly doing contacts lookups

and we've talked about it on the show before anytime the mac does contacts lookups

it it's like you know the the cpu goes to 100 it's all that so i that's my guess

is this is a workaround for that to just keep things efficient so,

that's my thought,

alright I tried turning off echo cancellation for you and it's still super low

so I'm guessing there's a gain issue somewhere else in your chain but that's okay.

I had not adjusted my gain did I mute myself?

I had not adjusted my gain yet I asked you how much more you needed from me.

I don't think it's your output gain Adam I think it's probably the volume slider

for the loopback device you're using would be my guess,

unless you're not using your loopback device as your input device,

in which case then that would answer that question.

No, I am. And that's at 100%.

Okay. All right. I don't know what it is. We'll figure it out for next week.

We'll just dance around the echo cancellation. It just means that...

That we get that like we get weird like herky-jerky things sometimes well.

That was me literally stopping i know i want to cut you off

Yeah yeah yeah it's fine okay well we'll we'll we're gonna survive uh apologize

oh it's i should have noticed it before the show i was just get we're getting

settled all right uh it's all good okay.

Bill bill has a question for us yes says gentlemen my wife is one of those people

who doesn't regularly keep up with email nor unsubscribed from mailing lists.

So she naturally builds up a lot of useless email in a short period of time.

Nearly all of her email is her iCloud.com address.

Periodically, she will go through her mail to make a good effort to get rid

of a lot of the useless messages.

Normally, this is no problem. However, we were recently on a road trip and she

had deleted about a thousand emails on her iPad while in the car while she was offline.

She wasn't connected to her iPhone or hotspot or anything else.

Emptied the trash and assumed that when she finally reconnected to Wi-Fi, things would sync up.

They didn't. It appears that all of her efforts were wasted as the mail count

is much higher on all her other devices.

The other device email counts all agree with each other. I know that Dave has

often said that sync is hard, but why would this fail?

We've quit and relaunched the mail and all devices, rebooted all devices,

and done anything else I could think of to get all things to agree to no avail.

Even logging into iCloud.com itself didn't help as it also shows the higher count.

She has done this in the past without this problem. Any suggestions other than

delete emails off, uh, other than never delete emails offline again.

This should, yeah, go ahead. We want the more general question.

Um, I think, I mean, I think we're, I think we're good. Yeah. Um,

I what you did should work or what she did should work like there's I've done this before it's fine,

sync it is hard it's

difficult but IMAP is pretty robust with

things like this so it feels like

the iPad itself is just stuck in this precinct

state um the one

thing that jumped out to me and i realize this is

hindsight advice but you know it can

also be just general advice for all of us is

i never empty my email

trash manually i let the server do that

and i i wonder if that

is part of the formula as to why we're

in this state here because when you move when

you trash a message really

what happens it's two things that happen one it.

Moves the message to from your

inbox to the trash folder no different than if

you move a message to like an archive folder

it just happens to be a folder called trash which is

yes treated differently but it is at

that moment just another move and

then it expunges that from the inbox

to kind of catch the inbox up with the state

of things but the message is

still out there and every message has a unique id and so

i wonder if moving them and then deleting them before you got online got back

online is part of the reason that the syncing didn't happen the right way i

don't know but that's kind of where i and i so i let the server do the deletions at you know,

the 30 day marker or whatever I have the server set to do.

So, um, given that the iPad is in this state, we need to get it out of this state.

You've tried some of the obvious things. You've tried simply,

you know, getting it back online and telling it to sync with the server.

And it's not syncing with the server. It's stuck.

So I wonder if disabling iCloud Mail from that iPad and then restarting the

iPad and then re-enabling iCloud Mail on that iPad would be the trick.

You want to kind of flush its cache, if you will, and get it to treat the server

as the truth. It sounds like that's what you want.

It sounds like that the deletions that were done, you're okay,

kind of having them undone just to get everything back in sync.

So that's what I would do.

At least that's where I'd start unless I'm missing something.

So I don't know if you have any thoughts, Adam.

Uh, I'm hoping I fixed my audio,

But you sound good. So yes, you did fix it. All right. Now I want to know what it was or maybe he'll.

Tell you later. Okay. But yes. Um, no, it was what you thought it was on the wrong input device.

Um, got it. Yeah.

So, uh, no, I, I was really stumped on this one.

So I, you know, I couldn't come up with anything else. Cause I was like,

you, I was like, it should totally have just worked i i don't i don't have any

additional yeah thoughts on it

Yeah yeah it should just work that's yeah but

but sometimes the things that should just work don't right and

that's obviously why we're here so so that's where i would start is just wipe

that out and then come back to it and hopefully that will do it that there there

was a time when even when When you deleted a mail account from the iPhone,

I don't know that I ever tried this with the iPad, but they're obviously very similar.

It wouldn't delete the folder on the iPad that contained all your local copies of any messages.

And so I had it where I would delete an account, restart the iPhone,

come back, add the account, and it would immediately repopulate with all the things.

It was like, no, I don't. Make it go away. But you can't dig into the,

you know, home library mail V10 folder on the iPad.

That's not something we get to touch like we do on our Macs,

which is where you would go to do that on your Mac or V whatever the current version is. So.

But I think that has I think that's been fixed when you disable a mail or when

you delete a mail account, when you deactivate a mail account, it does delete it.

It's been my experience. So hopefully that's the solution.

All right.

Moving on to Craig, shall we? Craig says, hey, guys, about two months ago,

I started routinely getting incoming robocalls from toll free numbers.

1-800-XXX and the other, you know, 8XX area codes that are toll-free.

Most likely numbers being spoofed. The calls show up randomly about once a day, but every day.

It seems as though this tactic is being used because inbound spam filters from

carriers will often allow toll-free calls to be delivered.

Any suggestions on how to block all incoming toll-free numbers?

In the modern era, there are few legitimate cases where an inbound call from

a toll-free number would occur.

And even if legit, that could be delivered to voicemail.

I was hopeful to use an automation, but from what I have seen,

it's not possible to interrogate the inbound caller ID from a call to trigger an automation.

And even if possible, to detect them coming from a toll-free number.

Any suggestions, Pensacola Craig?

Adam?

Yes. My suggestion is iOS 26 might be your friend. There's some new features

in here, and I don't know.

Looking at the screenshot, I don't think Craig had these enabled.

He had such a screenshot of this. Um, and so my question is,

have you enabled the screen unknown callers feature and also the call filtering feature?

So in your phone settings, there's a couple of features, uh,

one called screen unknown callers and the other called call filtering.

Um, I have mine currently my screen unknown callers set to silence,

which says calls from unsaved numbers will be silenced, sent to voicemail and

displayed on the recents list.

So it does that. And then the unknown callers feature is missed calls and voicemails

from unknown numbers will be moved to the unknown callers list.

So when you enable this, I think there's some UX changes that happens to your phone app.

So when I go to my screen, there's a little sort of three, it looks like an

inverted almost, not quite a pyramid, but three lines.

They're inverted. It's like a more menu up in the upper right-hand corner.

And now I have my regular calls, which is my recent calls and voicemails and stuff like that.

But there is also something called unknown callers.

And so any of those unknown numbers, one, because I have these two features

enabled, immediately go to voicemail, so I don't get the call.

And then secondly, they get moved to that list, so I don't miss them.

I And the key is, you know, any calls you do want to get, the only downside

to this, in my opinion, is if I am getting a call from, you know, like,

my doctor's office or something like that, and I haven't added their number

to my contacts, it's going to go there and I'm going to have to review it.

I'll still get a voicemail from them.

But like if you can get a call about an upcoming appointment, things like that.

But I mean, in my opinion, the solve for that is just start adding those numbers

to your contacts so that they don't get filtered out.

But I'd rather err on the side of more stuff getting filtered to voicemail and

me getting less calls and me then going to review it.

And if they don't want to leave a voicemail then i don't want to hear from him

anyway so that's just my opinion like because some people wonder like what if

what if they won't leave a voicemail it's like well then they obviously didn't

really want to talk to me so i don't need to talk to them i

I yeah all right there you go and and yeah that ask reason for calling setting

is an it could be a nice middle ground too right you know that's there uh as

kiwi does that work point kiwi gram says uh ask reason for calling for unknown

callers zaps over 90% of my incoming spam calls.

So, uh, yeah.

And there are a few other options in there. I was trying to remember there's

different settings. So there's like a silence and you can play around with the

settings, you know, but there are a bunch of new settings.

Apple recognized this problem with, uh, iOS 26 and they're trying to give us

additional tools to help, to help manage this sort of workaround stuff that

these guys are doing. You know, it's, it's whack-a-mole.

Pete texts, uh, text us and says i have

a shortcut to turn off uh the

filter unknown callers setting when i know i'm

going to get a call from a delivery uh yeah

and i you know i like that you could probably also i'd have to mess with it

but like the way shortcuts work you could probably have it wait you know six

hours and then turn it back on too right um so that would be another,

thought process but yeah i didn't realize that that was accessible from shortcuts so i like that,

Yeah. Good. Cool. Um, all right.

I was going to say, I was going to think, is there, was there something else

I was going to share about this? No, it doesn't matter. Moving on. Yeah.

Scott has a question. He says, so I remember recently you guys talked about

favorite cases, iPhone cases he's talking up, but I can't find the info.

Can you point me to the episode?

I'm finally upgrading from my iPhone 11 to a 17 pro max.

The new phone will arrive at the end of a month and i'm hoping to order a case before it arrives

So this might be a one-sided conversation because i know you often are naked

and unafraid at least in terms of your phone adam uh i i have often,

so when i get a new phone usually i'm ordering a phone you know to be delivered on release day,

sometimes vendors will have their cases ready

and want to send us like a little care package in advance for for

a case i do like to have a case on my phone i'm that

person and so uh but but

oftentimes the sort of you

know vendors that we work with anyway or that we

often review the folks like spec and uh you

know um casemate and case logic and those sorts of things don't have their cases

ready in time uh and so i usually go on amazon and buy some eight dollar case

for the new iphone and i like a clear case usually because i'd like to see the color of my phone,

and um then you know when it's spec or somebody sends out a case i put it on

my phone to test it and it's like oh yeah nice case and then i wind up leaving

it on my phone that's what we talk about in the show.

That didn't happen with my iPhone 17 Pro.

I ordered my $8 Amazon case, and it's been on my phone ever since September.

And it, well, that's not entirely true.

I used an open case for a while. I really do like the open case.

There's two things about it that I don't, that make it so that I can't use it all the time.

Number one is open case. it's not clear

uh it it is mostly uh

non-existence right because it's basically just an edge

case for the phone so that you can see the actual

phone and what i really like about that is if you're if i'm putting like a pop

socket or something on it it sits on the phone making the whole thing thinner

because i'm not putting the pop socket on a case that then adds thickness to

the to the whole deal And it's better for charging and things like that because

you're not going through the, you know,

the thickness of the case and you're not losing extra heat there and all that stuff.

But so, you know, that but that's fine.

I did before my trip to South by.

I changed back to my clear $8 case that I got from Amazon because when I put

my phone on the nightstand on the charging thing that I travel with.

I can't do that with the open case because of the way the border works.

Now, the open case comes with a little like a filler that you can put in there so that you can do that.

But I often forget to travel with the filler.

So before this trip, I just put it on that one. And I've dropped my phone.

My $8 case has protected it just fine. And so, you know, like, I'm curious about.

What you folks are doing about cases for your phones, are you still buying the

$30, $40, $50 cases, or are you buying the $8 cases?

And if you are buying the $8 cases, am I just lucky, or have your $8 cases protected

your phone as well as mine has?

So I'm really curious about that. And you are still naked and unafraid, Adam?

Yeah. My only complaint is from my wife. I probably should start getting a glass

screen protector because actually I get more damage on the screen now than I

do on the actual phone itself.

And I've dropped this a few times. I don't know if it's the new glass that's just stronger.

But I will say, because I said it before,

Now remember, again, I'm a naked phone person.

This is partially Apple's fault. So two things here. First of all,

I agree with you on the open case. Like if I was going to use a case,

uh, cause I've, I obviously try cases. I've been sent cases in the past.

I've done all the major brands.

I've like gone through them and just realized I don't, I don't like the bulk.

I don't like the extra stuff.

So, um,

The open case to me is the closest to having a case, but not having a case,

if that makes sense. Yeah.

Because it is open. It's got, I like the accessories, you know,

the little wallet thing, but to be able to pop it off.

And, you know, so, and it's nice and thin. I like the material.

If I probably would use it if they made a true leather one, they have a nice

material that's leather-like, but it's not leather.

Yeah. And so that gets to the other side of this conversation. i

used a case i used apple's leather phone

case on all my iphones till they discontinued it

and i know they've got the new one but it's not leather i

like natural materials i don't like synthetics i want

a and i i'm sure i could find a third-party leather case and

maybe some people would recommend some that are close to

apples but apples was just so nice because it was nice and

thin i liked the metal button it had the metal buttons

not plastic ones like it had a lot of features that were really really great

it wore you know it got a nice patina when it wore down because it was natural

leather not you know plastic so yep yeah if if apple brought their leather case

back i'd probably buy it again um

So i yes i will likely put my

open case back on just because the i like the

the the thinness that it provides as

far as leather cases go uh i

have tested some that i really like from

mujo m-u-j-j-o uh they are real leather they uh they have a good hand feel to

them so i've i don't know that i've ever had the apple leather case adam so

i can't compare the two but yeah i'm curious what what people what people think out there.

But now I've gotten so used to not having a case that I just,

I like it. So I don't know if I can ever go back to a case at all anyway.

Yeah, I like the idea of not a case. Let me put it that way.

I just, I don't know. Yeah.

I'm crazy.

No, you, like...

The phone is built to be used without a case. The iPhone always has been, right?

It's meant to be used just as it is. It's not meant to be preserved like a museum piece.

It might be getting to the fact that I'm moving to this place where maybe it's

because I'm getting older or whatever, but I like retro stuff.

Like there's, there's a whole, like, I like old cars and like the style of old

cars and things and stuff like that.

And I'm starting to appreciate more old stuff that looks used and worn and tattered

and going, you know, that's okay that it's not pristine and perfect.

You know and so like in car culture there's like people will literally buy rusty

old cars and like clear seal them with the rust you know surface rust in place

because they like that look sure

and i'm like getting that space where it's just like yeah if my phone looks

like it's got a little scuffs and nicks and stuff like that that just shows

it's a device and that was one thing steve always talked about is like he preferred

the things that looked like they were loved and used And they weren't, you know,

he liked nice things and high quality things, but also like I,

he appreciated that, you know, it was a device you used every day and it showed

that you used it every day because that showed you

Loved the thing. Yep. You know, I, I, I, and in much of my life,

I am the same way. And I suppose I am about my phone, my phone.

It's more, I don't want it to be non-functional.

Right. So that's that's like that's the difference. Right.

But like, I mean, my drums, I put my drums in cases when I move them from,

you know, from like the house to clubs or wherever I'm playing or whatever.

But I don't worry about getting scuffs on them. I don't worry about like getting scuffs on my car.

I use these things and I'm fine with it. It's more with the phone.

It's, well, if I drop it and it's destroyed and non-functional, now I'm screwed, right?

Like it's not just that I'm out a thousand bucks for a phone,

which also sucks, by the way.

But the idea of like, well, now I don't have a phone.

And we always keep a spare phone around me for exactly that reason.

But you have AppleCare, right?

Not on my phone. No, it's too expensive to put them on the phone.

Oh, I do. I know. So maybe that's a difference too.

Yeah, maybe, right. Maybe that's, yeah, that's part of it.

Well, and it got cheaper. My tip from last week, I now pay 20 bucks a month for three devices.

It's true. Well, that is a great segue into Cool Stuff Found,

and I think we should start with Steve's because Steve has perhaps an even better way.

But before we move to Steve's Cool Stuff Found,

I do want to share, you mentioned tempered glass

for your iphone the the

screen protectors i always put one

of those on my phone like it is i put it on

before i power my phone up for the first time so i order

an eight dollar case from amazon and then

i also order a three pack of of

tempered glass screen protectors for whatever size iphone it is and

the ones that i've wound up buying for the

last i don't know how many iterations let's say

at least three are uh right now

it's ten dollars for a three-pack for the 17 pro on

amazon it's ilun is the the brand a-i-l-u-n and

these work great i you know wind

up i actually never replace mine i don't need to but as soon as i my family

has phones like they they probably replace them three times a year two times

a year but it's 10 bucks you know it's fine it starts to develop a little crack

and you just pop it off and put a new one on but yeah I'm a big fan of the tempered

glass screen protectors on the phone.

You don't have any like problems with distortion or weird color issues or no,

because that's always been my concern with those.

I've seen them on people's phones in the past and sometimes they're not always ideal.

And then I always worry about getting the alignment just right.

You know, it is a trick that the, this not every year's version,

but this year's version came with a little,

it almost looks like a half a case that you kind of put around the top of your

phone and then drop the screen protector into it so it perfectly aligns it onto

your phone that's great yeah yeah it's and that's included in the you know the

10 bucks or whatever so there's.

A link to that get any air bubbles or any of that because that's the other one

i'll get is see people with like there's freaking air bubbles under there drive me nuts

Yeah so what i do i have a routine when i put these things on,

Uh, like I said, the, the, the dust and air bubbles are the, the two big issues.

So when you get your iPhone, it has the, um, it's got a sticker on it,

like over the glass that you're going to peel off.

So I get everything ready in the room. I get the thing.

I tell people if they're going to be in the room, don't breathe.

Cause I'd want that. Well, I want like the dust, not circulating in the air.

It's like, here, we're going to just do this. So just go away. It's fine.

You don't have to, it's going to take 12 seconds for me to do this. don't be

breathing over over me while i'm doing it if you want to watch hold your

breath that's what i'm going to do so i do i get everything

ready i hold my breath i peel the thing off and

i pop the thing on so dust is rarely an

issue for me sometimes one little piece will

get in and it's really not that bad you just lift it up and then

they you can use like a piece of tape or whatever to pull the dust

off the screen and pop it back down bubbles can

be an issue but generally what i

do is i put the thing on and i start pushing from the middle out

so there's a reference for all of you silicon valley fans middle

out compression right so i i start

pushing from the middle out and occasionally yes there will be a bubble towards

one of the edges the easiest thing to do is you just lift up that edge a little

bit and then push from the middle out and the bubble goes away it's it's really

not that big of a deal and most of the time even if you don't do that the bubble

will go away within about a day.

I might have to try that with my next phone, whatever that is.

Yeah. This is my wife would appreciate it. She's like, yeah,

I always get your phone with scratches on the screen.

It's like, yeah, yeah. It, yeah.

And even this latest glass that they claim is so great. I've got some pretty nice scratches. Yeah.

So, yeah, I, yeah, I definitely put the tempered glass and I,

I, I'm so used to the feel of it that I don't know that I would like a screen

without it, but I don't know that it's all that different candidly.

Cause it's, it's tempered. It's glass.

Don't get the, the cheap plastic stuff. That's the stuff that turns colors and it's terrible.

But, um, I mean, the glass is 10 bucks. Like so.

And that you can buy high-end stuff and i will

say i have tried like the kensington glass and

all that stuff it is so much nicer than the

ten dollar glass ten you know three for ten dollar glass like it's thicker it

definitely that's probably one of those things where it it's it's worth it to

spend a little more so you know there you go i'll put a link to book yeah yeah

yeah all right should we jump to uh to steve here now even though we don't have a ton of time yeah yeah.

So Steve has a cool stuff found.

He says, hey, guys, regarding your discussion on AppleCare Plus from episode

1133, I wanted to mention that for your Verizon listeners out there,

they offer Verizon Home Protect for $25 a month.

It covers all, every single electronic device in your home and a qualified second

home, laptops, Apple Watches, phones, of course, iPads, TVs,

game consoles, et cetera.

Yes, it's Asurion. Yeah, it's through Asurion.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly right.

That's the name of the company. Yeah. But I've had nothing but good experiences

with them over the years.

Just a few examples. as they swapped out my Apple Watch Ultra for an Ultra 2,

fixed my daughter's M1 MacBook Air, and replaced the HP Color Laser AIO printer.

Acknowledge you're not getting the white glove treatment that you get with AppleCare,

but coverage is more broad and definitely more affordable. Something to consider.

Huh. I know.

I mean, I have Verizon for my phone and stuff like that.

Wow. I mean, if he's got a good experience, I would like to know for more people.

I need a sample size bigger than one. Not that I don't trust you, Steve.

Sure.

I don't trust Verizon or any partner.

Well, yeah. Asurion's pretty like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They have, Asurion has a business separate from Verizon.

Like they are, right? You know, they are the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But you get a deal, I'm assuming as a Verizon customer, it's like a partnership thing.

Like sounds very tempting. I will tell you that.

But when i get a sample size of more than one i i like my apple care because

it's like no problem like all right pay your deductible your little deductible

and here's a replacement device and

You're done yeah.

Exactly you're done yeah like

no mas no

Mas no mas yeah yeah huh.

It's like that then that's great it sounds like he's saying it is

So yeah for sure yeah all right

yeah i would i would like to hear from more more of

you about that too yeah yeah uh let's

see joe i think we have time for maybe one more

cool stuff found and did i not move

this one over either if i didn't it's fine yeah

here it is i didn't move it over um but uh

joe shares he said in last

week's episode 1133 father

john asked whether he could have an app launch automatically when

his mac woke up half an hour after listening

to your discussion in the episode i ran across a reference to an app called

crank from low tech guys.com and uh he says i think it's another way to solve

father john's problem he says uh Crank's product page is unusually clear.

It's a when this happens, do that kind of scenario.

And he says it listens for a wide set of macOS events like Bluetooth,

Wi-Fi, power, displays, wake, of course, mail received, privacy.

I'm listing, I probably listed, you know, 8% of what's on here.

Item added to the clipboard, a visual change, web hooks, all kinds of things. This is interesting.

Effortless macOS automation, no manual required.

And it's all very modular and visual about the way this works.

I have never heard of crank before.

And it supports Gemini and ChatGPT so that you can actually write your actions

in plain English and have them translated into crank actions by the AI integration. See?

This. Huh. What a find, Joe.

Interesting and how much is it if i want to buy a license crank is eight euro

so however i think it's eight euro maybe is that eight pounds that might be eight dollars.

And 23 cents

U.s there you go that's it crank okay i will put that link in the show notes

wow how have we never heard about this before that i don't know uh yeah yeah.

I mean it looks like there's not you gotta pay for it so

Yeah but still we i mean we are we are never accused of being inexpensive people

to know or listen to adam in fact often just the opposite no.

Not not at all it's you know

Yeah 10.

Bucks is worth a shot and if it works and it sounds like it does according to is it steve

Who was uh joe that one listen joe yeah yeah yeah i

like it oh that's great thank you for that

joe good stuff all right i think that's i

think we're uh yeah that's it we're out of time cooked yeah yeah

we're cooked we have more cool stuff found we have more questions we have more

quick tips we have more of everything so thanks for hanging out with us folks

and we'll uh we'll do this again next week and we'll uh how about we bring we

is pete this is pete's time out over now can we can Can we bring Pete back next week? I think so.

Yeah, we can.

Love you, buddy. I missed having you here, Pete. Yeah, I know.

All right. Thanks for handing out, everybody. Thanks to Cashfly for providing

all the bandwidth to get the show from us to you.

If you missed Pete, make sure you listen to So There I Was this week.

Always great stuff on that show and lots and lots of Pete.

There's more of Adam on Debut Film Podcast and more of me on Business Brain and Gig Gab.

Sign up for that giveaway, MattGeekUp.com slash giveaway, and get yourself entered

to win a copy of SoundSource, one of my favorite little utility app things.

Good to be back. Good to get an episode in the kind of moving along.

And I'm really glad I went and saw Phil Schiller's beat.

Yeah, it sounded great. Yeah, it really was fun.

Oh, what would Pete say if he were here, Adam?

Him well my guess if pete was here he would have a shirt on and that shirt would

say don't get caught there we go he might even have it on right now it's possible who knows who

Knows thanks folks we'll see you next week later.

This transcript was automatically generated by the podcast creator and may contain errors. Aggregated via the PodcastIndex API.