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Ep. 253: The Window Man

What if you could step outside of time… and into another version of yourself?

In this episode of Tinfoil Tales, Brandon is joined by author and speaker Will Cameron, who shares one of the most unusual claims ever discussed on the show. Will describes what he calls the “Window Man State” — a condition where he says his consciousness can step out of the present moment and into different points across his own timeline.

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Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out

of there.

Speaker 2: I was done. I wasn't dealing with that.

Speaker 3: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my

head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And

one of the things I remember the most, where the

eyes were going red.

Speaker 2: I see an orb of light. It is just circling.

Speaker 1: These steps like it is waiting for me.

Speaker 3: And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

Speaker 2: They're basically like, what are you talking about.

Speaker 1: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,

and that's where I saw the top of.

Speaker 2: The muzzle, nose and the eyes.

Speaker 1: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,

I don't like death. Welcome back to ten Foil Tals.

I'm your host Brandon Tonight, I'm joining about with my

guest Will Will. Thanks for coming here and talking.

Speaker 2: To me, Thanks for having me appreciate it.

Speaker 1: Would you like to let the audience know a little

bit about yourself before we dive into it.

Speaker 3: Sure, I am an author, a public speaker. I'm a

food critic and also the world's foremost authority on the

window Man state. And I guess the reason I'm the

foremost authority on that is because I'm the only one

that I know does it.

Speaker 1: Before we get into the window man aspects, I had

a couple of questions, like, leading up to this, is

this something that how did you figure this out? Like

it without explaining everything right off the bat. Was this

something that just kind of happened or was it something

that like per gressed into it?

Speaker 3: Well, certainly it was a progression, but there were these

precursors and things that led me along the way to

finding this. And like I've said multiple times in other

things that I am or have never been normal. From

the time I was born, things were different. I potty

trained myself at eighteen months. At two years old, I

could hold a conversation with you at the level of

a twelve year old. By three years old, I began

to see things before they would happen. It was an

extra sensory perception esp people call it, and I lost

a connection to that as I went further along. But

then there were other things that came and so I

recognize that now as a precursor.

Speaker 1: I guess, was there we'll get into durers we was

there like a catalyst kind of got the whole thing

for you, like some sort of event without like describing

the whole thing before, but like, was there something that

just set it off?

Speaker 3: Sure, when I was nine years old. When I was

nine years old, there was an event in the classroom.

We'll get into that, and that that is where everything began.

Speaker 2: That was where it started for sure.

Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if you're good to go, I will turn

it over to you and we can get into and

if I got any questions, I'll ask as we go along.

Speaker 3: Sure, why don't we just start with that event right there?

When I was nine years old, I'm sitting in the classroom,

and I'm not the guy that I am today. I was,

you know, obviously today you know, speak in public and

do all of these things.

Speaker 2: But I was a really timid kid.

Speaker 3: And so I'm sitting in the classroom and I have

to pee, and I have to pee like nobody's business.

Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta go bad.

Speaker 3: And I didn't want to raise my hand because I

felt like if I raised my hand, then I'm gonna

get ridiculed by the other students. And unfortunately that backfired

in a really, really horrific way. About ten minutes later

after I should have raised my hand, I'm sitting there

and I just got pissed running down my leg. And

now the teacher. There's a million things the teacher could

have done, but she didn't try to disguise it in

any way, so she just exposes it to the class.

Speaker 2: And now there's this huge, like glorious.

Speaker 3: Laughter going on in the class, and she's laughing herself,

which I found to be a little bit ridiculous that

she would be laughing, you know, at a student, but

she was. And I should have probably went home that day.

Speaker 2: I didn't. I decided to stay at school.

Speaker 3: I went to the locker room and I took a shower,

changed out, and you know, got my gym clothes on,

and came back and continued to be picked on for

the rest of the day. And I'm talking about punched

and kicked and you know, you name it.

Speaker 2: It was. It was happening to me.

Speaker 3: People were calling me all kinds of names that you could,

you know, possibly imagine a third grade kid would call

another kid who would just pissed his pants in front.

Speaker 2: Of the class.

Speaker 3: So anyway, I go home that day and I don't

even know what to do.

Speaker 2: With myself. I go to my room and I just start.

Speaker 3: Crying my eyes out because I'm thinking, I don't know

what am I going to do with my life now.

Speaker 2: I mean, this is like everything feels wrecked at this point.

Speaker 3: And I'm sitting there and I should have probably or

I feel like.

Speaker 2: I was.

Speaker 3: Let me explain it like this. I didn't feel like

I was crying myself asleep. That's not what happened. I

was one hundred percent awake and I was I was crying.

I was conscious of what was going on, and all

of a sudden, just like a snap, just like that,

I'm out and I don't know why that happened. And

at the time, I obviously was like, why did this happen?

That I just went out like that? And I woke

up what felt like maybe a second later, but it

was the morning, and I felt fully rested. And this

was the first time that I experienced what I call

the window man stage, because when I opened my eyes up,

I was viewing the world through a different lens. I

wasn't viewing it like you or I would view it now.

It's like I'm looking and I feel like I'm peering

out through a window and I'm in no control of anything.

I can't move my body anything. It's moving for me,

it's doing everything for me. And all of a sudden,

I hear my mother's voice call from the other room,

and all of a sudden, you start getting dressed really fast.

And I run out into the living room and I

see her and I just grab her and I just

throw my arms around her, and I just start bawling.

And my nine year old self inside watching this like

I don't understand and what's going on? Not one bit,

So I'm lost or what's happening here. I get in

the car with her. I'm sure she was a little

shaken by it too. She didn't know what was going on.

But we get to the school and I don't say

a word, and I get out of the car. I

look at her and I say this. I say, don't worry,

I'll be back, which is a really weird thing for

a kid to say, you know, but that was what

was said.

Speaker 2: So I go into the classroom and.

Speaker 3: I see this kid that I called my tormentor in

the book, and he's sitting at the back of the class,

just cracking up.

Speaker 2: Walking the room.

Speaker 3: Now, I look at him and I don't feel like

I'm feeling it normally. It feels like this is something

that's not happening to me at all. It feels like

it's happening in a different place to somebody else. And

my body starts moving toward his desk, and another kid

that was giving me a hard time he steps in

the way and just pushing to the ground, and I

walk to his desk. I grab him by the back

of the head and I slam him face down into

the desk and now there's blood everywhere. He didn't break

his nose, but there was a lot of blood. And

so I go to the principal's office and he immediately

starts in on me. He starts yelling at me really

really fast. And I think the reason he started yelling

at me like he did was because he felt comfortable

doing so. Because I'm this timid kid that, you know,

isn't I'm not a fighter, I'm not, you know, anything

like this. I'm not going to argue with him. And

so he starts, you know, starts in really hard on me,

and I paused for a second, and then this voice

rises out of me, and I'm telling you, it had

authority to it. And the voice rose out of me

and it said, Hey, what kind of man allows a

child to be kicked, punched, beaten and tormented on the

daily basis then has the audacity to give this kid

a hard time when he only tempts to defend himself.

And I watched this guy like step back, and he

steps back, he takes a deep breath and his face

goes almost completely ghost white, and he realized that there

was something going on there, because this wasn't, you know,

the normal child he was used to hearing from. And

he looks at me and he says, what would you

have me do? There's a day that the principal of

a school asked a nine year old kid, what would

you have me do? And I looked at him and

I said, here's what you do. If the parents squeal

about what happened, you tell them all about their son,

and you tell them that they could be dragged into

the very same lawsuit that all drag this school into.

So this goes away, and just like that, I never

heard about it again. And the reason that my mother

in that scene had happened that morning and that was

so weird, was because I I realized many me years

later what had happened, and I at this time I

didn't know. But what had happened was this was the

first time that my forty eight year old consciousness had

stepped in for my nine year old self. So this

was my forty eight year old self speaking to the teacher.

But the reason or excuse me the principal, but the

reason that the scene had happened with my mother was

because to my forty eight year old consciousness, my mother

had been dead for over a year, and so now

this is me seeing her for the first time after

so many it's so long when I hadn't seen her,

and now I'm seeing her in her thirty year old body,

and it was mind blowing. If you could imagine what

that would feel like experience something like that.

Speaker 2: It so that this is where everything began.

Speaker 1: My door just opened up by itself. So I kind

of weirded me out a little bit.

Speaker 2: Her normal stuff going on in here, don't.

Speaker 1: We I probably didn't shut it all the way over,

We'll just say, but no, I heard it creaking out

looking and it just opened up.

Speaker 2: But it's whatever.

Speaker 1: So now, when you were nine years old and you

said your consciousness was from your forty eight year old,

so basically forty year difference. Did that consciousness stick with

you from that point on?

Speaker 3: Or what do you mean by stick with me from

that point like at nine?

Speaker 2: No?

Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, like it basically like your consciousness took over

as the nine year old. But I was just wondering if,

like if it's kind of just stayed with you since then,

like you still had that idea from your older.

Speaker 3: So no, no, that it stepped in and left, okay.

And so there were many instances of this over time.

You know that we'll get into and talking about like

what it was that stepped in in certain places.

Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that wasn't it didn't stay with me.

Speaker 1: No, when it when it first happened for you, like

did your did you feel different, like did your body

feel different or did you feel anything different when this

was going on?

Speaker 3: Or oh yeah, I mean as I as I explained it.

You know, seeing through the window is much different than

like controlling your body. It It feels as if you're

you're just watching out of the window, and you know

how you can see everything that goes on outside, but

you're in control of nothing when you're looking through a window,

like whatever's going on out the birds are moving, whatever's happening.

You don't control that. And that's exactly how this was.

I couldn't control anything, not function, not speech, nothing.

Speaker 1: When did that first? Like after you with the principle

and everything, how much longer until you kind of came

back to not being in that.

Speaker 3: State that that went away as soon as I stepped out,

and you find out how I how I stepped out

later if you read in the book, you'll you'll find

that I have to connect multiple senses to events because essentially,

here's the way that it is. We are the microcosm

of the macro casm. So there's a version of me

that has never started talking to you yet there's a

version of me that is already finished with this interview

see it. So there's multiple versions, and there's split seconds off.

And since there's split seconds off, it's like, if you

can connect yourself to a moment, then you can essentially

commandeer the vehicle. You can take over that vehicle. So

what I'm saying is, have you ever heard a song

and that song kind of took you back and you

were like WHOA, Like I almost feel like I'm in

that moment that's a baby step through the door. And

because I have this window man state, this thing that

I can do, I'm able to step through the door,

and many people would not be able to step through

the door.

Speaker 2: It's it's a supernatural.

Speaker 3: Gifting and each of us have them, but most people

don't know how to access them.

Speaker 2: And so that's what that's actually what.

Speaker 3: I'm doing now with I'm on school and I'm actually

teaching people how to access their their supernatural gifting because

it's there, you just have to understand how to get there.

And there's a lot of things that bind you from

ever getting there. There's these things I call frequency binders,

and they keep you from ever being able to move

to that state.

Speaker 1: Doors moving again, this happens with me. Do you think

that the way this sounds is almost like trying to

think almost like not so much multiverses, but kind of

in a sense like different versions of reality, different versions

of time, like a different time and space between when

you and I have already talked another time where we

haven't talked. Is there a way for you to communicate

with yourself from a different time frame?

Speaker 2: Yes?

Speaker 3: Absolutely, Actually, I should probably explain this before we even

go into that and how deep that actually goes, because

that's a very deep rabbit hole that we would be

looking at there. But I want to say that this

will probably blow some minds out there. But Elon Musk

had said that there was only like a one in

a billion chance that we were living in anything but

a simulation. And I'm going to go ahead and take

it a step further and say we one hundred percent

live in a simulation. And what I do exploits a glitch.

And this glitch allows me to move through not only

my own timeline, but multiple timelines.

Speaker 2: Uh.

Speaker 3: And because there are there are all these different coded

versions of the matrix, and I have moved through many

of them. And there's something called an empty timeline where

nothing exists on the empty timeline, no birds, no squirrels, nothing,

nothing except plant life. And in that place, I'm actually

able to commune with other versions of myself who have

the same gifting, and we are able to devise plans

and all sorts of things to.

Speaker 2: Further this gift.

Speaker 1: I will ask the question that I know everyone's thinking,

how come you have not won the lottery?

Speaker 2: You know what?

Speaker 3: That is a beautiful question, and I will tell you

why when people read window Man, they will understand that

Time tends to attack and it acts as an entity,

so it attacks you. And I've learned later that there's

something called the Darker Force, and that's what Windowman two

is about. It's called the Darker Force, and the darker

Force has the ability to suppress the abilities and also

Time itself, acting as an entity, looks at me as

a parasite and it wants to flush me out. So

if I use the gifting in any way to do

anything that profits me, I'm attacked viciously. In fact, it

talks about it in the book where I had compound

fractured my leg immediately after winning on DraftKings, that I

had won one hundred thousand dollars on DraftKings and my

leg was compound fractured within thirty seconds. So there is

something that stops me from ever trying to use it

for profit.

Speaker 1: Okay, So I know the listeners out there when people

hear this before, because I've had someone say they've traveled

time and everything, and everyone says the same thing, like

with psychics, if all this is real, how come they

haven't won the lottery? If they know that what the

future holds how comes someone hasn't rich, and like it

is one of those questions that it has to be asked,

because again, that's the way everyone thinks.

Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And if you think that that wasn't

something that crossed my mind. In the book, it talks about, Hey,

I could go back and I could find this stock

that exploded. You know, I could go and you know

bet On, you know Mike Tyson versus Buster Douglas, you

know all of these things. And yeah, I definitely that

it comes in and there's this this greed that makes

you want to do that. But I found out in

the most vicious way possible that you don't want.

Speaker 2: To do that.

Speaker 1: You mentioned something about time like as an entity, as

an actual physical or type of a thing, because we

don't see time as that, Like, we don't see time

as anything other than just time. So if this is

something that has like an actual control to it, like

a mindset, would that be considered part of the programming?

Like it's almost like a coded protector for the timeline.

Speaker 3: Yeah, and I actually think that that's that's almost a

given in the book when you look at it, because

the fact is is that it it tries to attack,

and it tries to kill you, but there are all

these rules that seem to be in place. One of

the rules is that until you reach a certain point,

it's not allowed to attack you directly, that it will

only attack it will only attack those around you. But

at some point it starts to look at you as

being on par with itself, and when that happens, it

starts to try and kill you. And it took quite

a long time before it actually started trying to kill me,

but it did and on multiple occasions.

Speaker 1: M Yeah, Now, because we've talked, we've kind of went

down a rabbit hole of simulation theory. So what happens

if you were to die but there's other versions of you?

Is just this version the only one that would die?

Or with all of them died too, or do you

have no idea?

Speaker 3: No, this version is the only one, and there are

multiple versions of you dying every day.

Speaker 2: You know, we are all on.

Speaker 3: This stream and if you just look at it, like

you know, there's a cliff at the end, and slowly

but surely versions of you are going over the cliff.

That's how That's how it is. So we've all died

multiple times, and we I'll even tell you this, that

we do come back. This is what happens. We come

back into the stream every single time, over and over

and over again. So it's so the the idea of reincarnation,

all of that is is factual. And when I and

I'll also say this, I think it's important and imperative

that I say it that you know, there's a lot

of believers out there, people who believe in you know,

God and all of these things. And I will tell

you that nothing that I'm saying is mutually exclusive with

you know, the word there. All of it's true that

to be absent of the body, be present with the Lord,

how long before you go back?

Speaker 2: You know? And that's you know, like I said.

Speaker 3: If you ever have any questions like that that you

want to ask them, more than happy to answer those two.

Speaker 1: I had a couple of notes that's kind of what

I'm reading through. And one of the things I was

curious about when you mentioned, like when I originally went

through this, when it comes to like your consciousness jumping

through time. We've kind of already alluded to some of this,

but it doesn't cause like a paradox type of a

weird time shift or something between the fact that you

know that you're communicating with yourself from a different timeframe

that doesn't have any sort of negative effects or anything

on you.

Speaker 3: Time works very different than people believe it does. And

we believe in, you know, the butterfly effect, and that

if you do something here that it moves forward, right,

And that's not really the case.

Speaker 2: One way that I would explain it would.

Speaker 3: Be like this, if I cut off the blood flow

to my leg, right, is it only my leg and

my foot that are affected?

Speaker 2: The answer is no, that's going to put a strain

on my heart.

Speaker 3: It could cause me to have a heart attack, and

it could cause me to have a stroke.

Speaker 2: Right.

Speaker 3: These things happen in the heart and in the brain.

So what I'm saying is that when you affect time,

you affect it both forward and backward. Is a retro causality.

It's something completely different than what people believe to actually

be reality. As far as time goes, time is much

much different, and time now is in flux. And in

being in flux, you may believe that you've lived this

life and it's been what you've had from the very beginning,

but it can change at any point and when it does,

you will believe that it hasn't changed. So yeah, so

it's because you'll still have all of the memories of

what you believe has been your life, but it has

shifted multiple times because time has been affected, and it's

affected in both directions, and it's constantly in flux.

Speaker 2: And you hear about this in the book as well.

Speaker 1: How did you come to understand all of this? I

know we've kind of haven't really got further past your

first experience, but how long did it take for you

to kind of understand what was going on?

Speaker 2: Oh? This was so many years in the making, you know.

Speaker 3: One of the ways that I've explained it on a

few occasions is to say, you know, you start getting

in shape, and then you go, oh, you know what,

I could probably box, And then you start boxing, and

then you're like, hey, I can start kickboxing, you know,

And next thing you know, you're doing jiu jitsu and

wrestling and all these other things, and now you're a

complete mixed martial artist. So what I'm saying is that

this was a development over years and years and years,

and when I'm inside in that window man state, I

have been able to map the brain and do many,

many things that people don't actually understand. Things go on

inside that you can never explain out here. I ended

up being inside one time for six months, and it

felt like this, because six months six minutes relatively the

same inside if you're not actually looking through the window,

which is why I had to learn to look through

the window, because if I wasn't constantly in the window,

then time would just go and it would go so fast.

And so I learned to slice off this little piece

of my consciousness that could continue mapping the brain. And

like I said in the book, I don't ask me

to explain that there's things that happen that go on

inside that you can't explain out here.

Speaker 2: It's a totally different world inside.

Speaker 1: Well, if you would like to continue on after the

first time you experienced it, I'd like to hear more

about how you've come to learn about the ability.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I can explain the first time I had really

tried to go through and step through into the you know,

out of this time, I didn't use the window. Man,

I tried, and I had connected my senses together from

something that if you've read in the book, you learn

that it was this thing that I was led to do,

and it taught me how to how to connect the

senses together in order to do this, and it didn't.

It didn't work the first time. It was like pushing

against a very strong wind, and I just felt like

there was nothing I could do. And I remember twenty

six minutes of trying to push through and tell my

brain hurts so bad that I needed to stop, that

I couldn't, that I couldn't go through anymore. And one day,

on my way to the liquor store, of all things,

something just just dawned on me, and it said, step

into the window. And so I'm going in my car

and I'm listening to Jelly Rolls Son of a Sinner,

and I'm drinking on a Pepsi cola, and I'm ripping

the steering wheel, and I look at the gas gauge

because I knowed myself that if I look at the odometer,

then it may change before I get home, and I

don't want to have anything visually off.

Speaker 2: The gas meter is.

Speaker 3: Not going to change before I get home. So I

get home and I put my beer in the fridge.

At all of this, and I come back out and

I get in the car. I start the car up,

and I don't want to actually drive the car because

if I drive the car, I'm afraid in my mind

that I'm leaving an unmanned vehicle if this works. So

I put on the Jelly roll song a bluetooth that threw.

I'm drinking on the Pepsi cola. I'm gripping the steering wall,

I'm looking at the gas gauge and I awaken driving

the vehicle. And I'm driving the vehicle and I almost

get hit by this blue Ford Explorer that goes right

through the through the light and I slam on the

brakes just after. Mind you, this is when I just

kind of like came to because my body was seizing.

That was the first time like I was, I was

seizing like this, and so that was a really scary

thing because I could have I could have died in

that situation. But I go back to the house. I'm

super excited. I don't even like go to the liquor store.

I go back to the house. I run straight through

the door. I go in, I open the refrigerator door,

and there's no beer in the refrigerator. I look in

my wallet and the money that I had used to

purchase that beer is back in my wallet, and this

is the first time I realized that I'd actually stepped

out of time.

Speaker 1: Okay, so that was within the last five to ten years.

Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was when I was forty eight years old,

when I'm fifty now, so yeah, it was. That was

the first time that I stepped through that doorway. And

then later, obviously I stepped through the doorway again when

I went back into my nine year old That was

something that was such a vivid memory to me that

I just.

Speaker 2: I said, I have to go do this.

Speaker 3: This is something I have to try, and just like that,

I was back in that body and I and it

details it in the book.

Speaker 1: Is this something that you would think is more trauma

based of how you learned to get to this ability,

because it seems like it's something traumatic that happened to

trigger the whole thing.

Speaker 3: Oh, you're one hundred percent correct. That's a great question.

The trauma is what started it, and it wasn't just then.

It didn't happen again until I was in my early

to mid twenties. Right there, I was in a bad

relationship and I felt it going south, and I kind

of did the same thing except I wasn't crying this time,

and in the book it says I kind of felt

like I was past that, you know, and I just

went into the room and I laid on the bed,

and I just felt this heat come over my eyes.

And when the heat came over my eyes, all of

a sudden, everything went dark. And when I opened my

eyes again, I was in that same window man state

that I was in when I was nine years old.

And so, yes, the trauma is what opened the door originally,

but in doing it, it allowed me to access it

at any time. I just I became so capable of

doing it at any time based on just the fact

that I had done it before.

Speaker 2: You know, It's like, like I explained it like this.

You know, if.

Speaker 3: John Jones goes out and gets drunk, right, he can

still basically whip a bunch of people's ass. It's second

nature to him. That's what happened here. It became second

nature to me where I could just step in and out.

Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time where you've tried to

step in to alter what had happened?

Speaker 3: Mm hm, oh absolutely, There's been multiple times where I

try to step in and alter what had happened.

Speaker 2: One time. I was talking to a coworker.

Speaker 3: And I brought him out to the Madison Bear Garden

in Chico with me to go ahead and have some

lunch and we'll just talk because I needed to get

this thing off my chest. I was like, I need

to get this off my chest. And he was a

good friend of mine, you know. So we started talking

and I told him everything. Now I'm not really sure

whether he truly believed it or he didn't believe it,

But we left that place and.

Speaker 2: We go through the red light or not the red light.

Speaker 3: We were parked at at the red light, and then

we went through when it turned green and a red

Honda Civic comes through and blindsides him and I have

him right here on my lap, covered in blood.

Speaker 2: I watched him die. That was our natural timeline.

Speaker 3: I went back and fixed that, And this is one

of the very rare times where I've been able to

go back and actually change something like that. On multiple occasions,

it hasn't worked that way. And in the end, I'll

tell you something else that I tried to fix that

didn't work.

Speaker 2: And it's a really crazy story.

Speaker 1: I don't know the way that they would be able

to do something like this to actually check it out.

But like if you ever had anyone like be around

when you've went into this state to where they can

monitor like how it happens for you or anything like that.

Speaker 3: No, no, hey, I have never done anything like that.

And it's funny because I believe it was the butterfly

effect three they have there's a situation where she monitors

him as he goes in and does this. I've never

had anyone monitor me going through this gateway.

Speaker 2: And I don't know that I want anyone to.

Speaker 3: I'm a little bit worried about what that would you know,

what that would entail or what that would bring I

but no, I can honestly say that I've never had

anybody do that.

Speaker 2: Part of it.

Speaker 1: I just I hate doing it, but I have to

get MRIs on my head for my brain stuff. And

like I didn't know if like they would be if

you were able to do something like that, if you

were like in an MRI machine, I wonder what it

would actually pick up or show if they I don't

even know how that that would even work. I just

kind of wondering.

Speaker 3: That's very interesting because I have been looking into doing

a brain scan, because there are these things that happened

to me when I go out, specifically, like the time

I did with the six months, I come back, and

when I come back and I wasn't in the window,

there were certain things that I didn't remember, okay, And

so all of these things need to come back, and

they do, and they come back viciously. And this is

something that I call the flood. So the flood is

all of these memories rushing back all at once. And

if you understand, like the hippocampus is responsible for your

memory creation and it is buried deep within the temporal lobe. Now,

the temporal lobe is connected to both hemispheres, and both

hemispheres are connected to the occipital lobe. So when all

of these come flooding back, what they do is they

set your brain on fire. And so for a few hours,

it feels like somebody hits you over the head with

a sledgehammer, and is absolutely one of the most vicious feelings.

It could kill people, it's that strong, and you feel

the after effects for days.

Speaker 1: I was wondering too, like when you just mentioned that,

I would be curious to know, like if by going

in there, whatever, if it's actually causing some sort of

health issues. Because I know you mentioned the Butterfly I

remember the first one. I ever seen any of the

other ones, but I remember seeing something before, like where

someone was able to like I don't know the movie.

I can't trying to think, but like every time he

went back and did something, it was like taking a

little bit of peace from him and up eventually it

was going to kill him if he kept doing it.

I can't remember what the movie that was.

Speaker 2: I'm trying to think myself, but I don't know.

Speaker 3: I do know that there was that in the Butterfly

effect though the first one he did experience something very

similar to the flood when you I don't remember if

you remember him grabbing his head and holding his head

and it, you know, through all the memories and blood

running out of his nose, it was he was having

a you know, he was having that happen too, which

is really interesting. And that's honestly what led me to

find the things that I found was because I in

the beginning, I started looking through all sorts of movies

and different things, believing that there had to be some

connection between you know, fiction and what is real. You know,

and so I started looking through them, and when I

saw that there was a flood, you know, I saw

all these things that it made sense to me, and

so I started to piece things together. And that's the

reason his use of a journal was something that kind

of guided me. I knew a journal wouldn't work. It

seemed too simple to me, but connecting all of my

senses together made sense. And that's what and that's where

that came from, was learning from what I had seen

so oddly. You know, fiction in real life can have

a crossing point.

Speaker 1: I think most fiction is influenced from something real in

the first place. Someone has that idea, and if what

you're talking about is an actual capability that you're able

to do, I'm sure there's probably been others that have

done it at some point too, and it has somehow

been influence throughout time.

Speaker 3: M absolutely, one hundred percent I agree with that statement.

And I will say that, like I said, each of

us have a supernatural gifting. I know this, it's just

about accessing it, and people don't understand that. You know,

the thirty three vertebrae is called the Sacred Ladder, and

some people call Jacob's Ladder or whatever. But at the

top there's this this Atlas vertebrae. When you get to

the Atlas vertebrate, when you push the energy, the kundalina

energy through there to the Atlas vertebrae, it can actually

pump into the pineal gland and when it does, it

decalcifies it. And when it decalcifies it, it allows you

to access things that you're not capable of accessing in

your natural form.

Speaker 1: A lot of people have talked about stuff similar because

they think that what do they say, we only use

like a small percentage of our brain and the penial

grunt land or whatever is basically when it's calcified. They

think that's by design to keep us from actually achieving

those abilities that we've always had. So this is something

that's kind of been a reoccurring topic when on the show,

as people have talked about how to actually get in

touch with that and get in tune. It's almost like,

and I'm not trying to say it in the sense

of what you're doing is the same, but it's almost

similar to how people claim they travel the astral plane

or they get into the ability to like when they're

in a meditative state like they're leaving their body and

they're traveling through time and everything else to a different

plane of existence. And most of the people believe that

again like this is all kind of a simulation because

they're able to channel and do all that. Like, we're

just in this version of our world, but there's other

ones out there too that we're able to tap into

once our mind's able to, like our consciouness is able

to open up and move from the states that we're in.

Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, and n astral projections a very real thing.

Speaker 3: I've had some people in my family that have been

able to do that.

Speaker 2: That's not my gifting.

Speaker 3: But but this, however, is my gifting. And so each

of us have, you know, different ones, and I'm not

entirely sure what they are, Like, I don't know what

other people can do, because to be realistic, I don't

think a lot of people access this. It's a very

it's a very unusual thing for somebody to reach that

level where they can do that.

Speaker 2: You know. It's it's basically called like that.

Speaker 3: They call it a christ consciousness, you know, and you

get to that point where you can actually manipulate things.

Speaker 1: I've always thought about stuff like that, but I would

be too afraid to ever try. And I talked to

someone before the talk about how you can leave your

body in this It's like what happens if you leave

your body but you can't make it back to your

body When you're in that state now with you, you're

not necessarily leaving your body. But do you ever get

concerned that you're going to get trapped at while you're

in the window situating? You said you've been in there

for like six months before. Has there ever been a

point to where you're afraid that you won't ever may

be able to get out of there?

Speaker 2: You know?

Speaker 3: It's the that's that's a great question, because it's it's

the weirdest thing.

Speaker 2: Uh.

Speaker 3: Like I said before, when when my eyes went dark

and you know, I just felt like everything was.

Speaker 2: Going out around me.

Speaker 3: And when I awaken into this like state where I'm

peering out to a lot of people, I think that

would sound terrifying, you know. And the funny thing is

is you're not. There's there's zero fear in this case,

so you just I don't know why, but well, actually

I guess I do know why. The window man state

is emotionless. There's there's zero emotion connected to it, so

there's no excitement and certainly no fear. You you fear

nothing from the window man state. Now on the outside. Sure,

I mean I could say, well, I could worry if

I went in and something happened, But inside, zero fear,

zero fear, zero excitement, zero sadness everything.

Speaker 1: Is this something that you enjoy or is it something

that you kind of regret? I know that's kind of

a lopside of question, but like, is this something like

you wish that you could didn't figure out or is

this something that you enjoy now that you were able

to do this, Because I feel like it could be

a burden on either end.

Speaker 3: I see that I look at it from this perspective.

I was guided all along the path for whatever reason.

And why I was guided, I have to say that

the entire thing seemed like a puzzle. And if it

seemed like a puzzle, then that means that there was

a creator of that puzzle, and so I was meant

to do this for whatever reason. I can't explain why

I was meant to do this, and I don't know

exactly how far this goes Even now. Traversing time is

a small portion of what I do. You can read

about it in the book that there's many more things

that I'm actually capable of on the inside. So I

don't know. I believe that I was one hundred percent

made to do this. And while it does suck sometimes

and I have had moments where I felt like I

don't want to do this anymore, I feel like I'm

pushed to do it.

Speaker 1: It's almost like something's calling you to do this for

whatever reason, You've been given this gift, and you fill

the need that you have to do it absolutely.

Speaker 3: Because it's there are moments where it's burdensome. You know,

there were times where I've had my face completely split open,

and I've been kicked in the nuts by a horse.

I had some very crazy things happen. They get attacked

over and over and over again, and it's it sucks

on a lot of levels. But at the same time,

I know it's for a purpose.

Speaker 2: I do.

Speaker 3: I know there has to be some purpose in it.

And whether that purpose is for me to change something,

or whether that purpose is just to teach people that

there's something in you that you can do, then maybe

that's it.

Speaker 2: Maybe I just.

Speaker 3: Unlocked this just in order to show others that there's

something that they can do and wake others up.

Speaker 1: How has it been for you talking about this with

other people? Like obviously on my show, like this is

what we talk about stuff like this, but like to

the average person that's not into stuff like this, how

do the people react to that? Because I know, like

if someone usually just thrown out sid they've seen a

big foot, people don't believe them half the time. So

how does it work for you when you talked about it?

Speaker 3: You know, that's that's interesting because I find that it

is the people closest to me that seem.

Speaker 2: To have the hardest time.

Speaker 3: When I when I talk to other people that aren't

as close, they're fascinated and they they say, can you

show me how?

Speaker 2: How how do you do these things? Please tell me?

Speaker 3: You know, And the people closest to me have the

hardest time because, as we say, you're never a prophet

in your hometown.

Speaker 2: You know that's the case.

Speaker 3: It's like, I'm not a prophet to to my own hometown.

Speaker 1: The people closest around you are typically the ones that

are the hardest to convince of anything. So you mentioned

you talked to a friend about it, you didn't didn't

think he believed it? Is that like something you really is?

It kind of like a struggle for you that the

people closest to you don't necessarily go along way or

you don't worry about it anymore.

Speaker 3: I you know, for me, it's like I one, I'm

done caring what you know people think as far as like,

you know, whether you believe me or you don't believe me,

that doesn't matter to me much. The guy that I

told from from work, the friend, uh, it was kind

of up in the air. I wasn't sure how he

felt about it. It was hard to.

Speaker 2: Read, you know, it wasn't sure whether he believed it

or he didn't.

Speaker 3: My own dad struggles, you know, with it, and he

was there for esp He was there for multiple things

that happened along the way.

Speaker 2: You know. He remembers a specific time when.

Speaker 3: I was a kid, and uh, a tiny little kid,

I mean a tiny kid, and I walked past a

puddle and I knelt down and he looked at me

and he says, what are you doing?

Speaker 2: And I looked at up at.

Speaker 3: Him and I said, I'm looking for microscopic pond life.

Speaker 2: And that blew him away.

Speaker 3: You know it's he knows he's been seeing this kind

of stuff from me from the very beginning, and yet

it still boggles the mind. So I think, no matter what,

the people around you are always going to have the

hardest time. Others they tend to see it easier for

whatever reason.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for someone that's not close to this person,

it doesn't affect them in a sense that once they

walk away from you, they go on about their business.

It's the people that are close to you because I

deal all that with the stuff that I do with

this show and everything else, Like I am known around

my area is probably as a town crazy person at

this point because of just the stuff that I talk

about and oh he has a podcast. Oh yeah, Like

so at this point, because I live in a small town,

a lot of people know about what I do, and

it's got a stigma. Topics that we talk about like

this always have a stigma to it where the average

person doesn't necessarily always go along with it. So when

you talk about weird topics, people automatically associate you with

being a weirdo because you talk about the weird stuff.

But I think talking about these type of things are

important because if you didn't talk about it and just go

along with everything that goes out there in the mainstream

life's pretty mundane and boring. Yeah, so it's the fascinating

stuff of the unknown that's always been what's drawn me

to it.

Speaker 2: Oh, that's I'm happy to hear that.

Speaker 3: Like people actually look at this and say, hey, you

know what, there's all kinds of other things out there

that we don't understand, and I want to understand it.

And that's great. I think it's great that you do this.

It's it's fantastic because there are so many things that

people don't understand. Yeah, and yeah, a multitude of things

on every level.

Speaker 1: So we've kind of went around everything. So for the basically,

for the listeners out there, what are some of the

things that you've done without like spoiling your book or anything,

but what are some of the things that you've actually

done when you're in the window state or something you'd

want to talk about to try and give them an

idea of some of the other things you've done besides

just the time aspect to it.

Speaker 2: Oh, well, okay, I'm this is a this is a

huge one right here. And I knew that we were

going to talk about this.

Speaker 3: So I'll throw this out there, and this is something

that if you haven't looked into, go ahead and look

into it, and you're going to find out that everything

I'm saying is one hundred percent truth. So at the

end of Window Man, I had decided that I wasn't

sure that I wanted to actually do this anymore. You know,

at the end of the book, I decided I wasn't sure,

but I left it open in saying, in the words

of Rocky Balboa, id to hear Nobell one more round,

like maybe I might actually do it. And so something

happened that forced me back into this situation.

Speaker 2: There was a very very public execution.

Speaker 3: And with this very public execution, I believed that I

could stop it, and so I tried. I stepped into

the situation, and this was the first time that I

had ever put myself in the public forum doing something

like this. This was I'm on the world stage, and

so I stepped in. And this is where I met

the Darker Force, which is the reason that I called

the second book the Darker Force. So it suspended everything

that I could do. There was and I'm talking about

not just in like the supernatural I'm talking about physically

and everything. There were times I couldn't even move. Phone

calls that were that I tried to make were shut down.

Everything that I tried to do. There was nothing I

could do to save this person. So being an author

is a gifting that I have. I said, you know what,

all right, I'm I'm just going to write a book,

and if the book releases before this happens, then this

person will know. And so I wrote the book, published

it through a small publishing company, and it released one

day before the murder. And that was the best I could.

We pushed so hard to get it through. I pushed

so hard to get it through, and later on they

tried to say that it was published two days after.

None of it makes sense anyway, because I have my

book Window Man right here that I wrote and it

took me five days get.

Speaker 2: It approved through Amazon.

Speaker 3: And we're talking about a finished product, right, We're not

talking about something that just got written and then got

pushed through Amazon.

Speaker 2: It doesn't happen like that.

Speaker 3: You don't get a publisher for something that you just did,

you know afterwards, and and all of a sudden, it's

two days later, it's it's out there.

Speaker 2: It's impossible. It's a one impossibility. Okay.

Speaker 3: Now, then they go ahead and they dismissed the book

as AI slop and they say, yeah, it's no good,

it's slopped, and they just obliterate it from the internet. Now,

if you're going to obliterate this from the internet when

it has an opportunity to make money, why, I mean,

AI slot can make money, right, there's a reason that

they don't want you to see it. Later on, I

actually found a digital copy of the book and they

had changed multitudes of things, like there was a situation

where they said that in this murder situation, and I

will go into this and I won't just leave everybody hanging,

but that they ran up and put pressure on the wound,

and that they ran ivs and all of these things

which we know were not true, that that's not what

actually happened at the event, but they do that in

order to make it seem like it's not real. These

were things that they changed. And I'm just going to

go ahead and throw this out here right now. What

I am talking about is the murder of Charlie Kirk,

and I am talking about a book called The Shooting

of Charlie Kirk, and it was written by someone called

Anastasia J.

Speaker 2: Casey.

Speaker 3: And what I'm telling you is that I'm the author

of that book, and I actually have some things where

I've encoded it so that people would know. I didn't

wasn't that I wanted everyone to know, but I wanted

my family at least to know that this was never

going to come out. I never wanted this to come out,

but at the time same time, I'm kind of pissed

off in the way that they handled it, you know.

So my firstborn son, his name is Antonio. First two

letters of his name are an. My second born son,

his name is Carmine in the first two letters of

his name are C A, as well as my last name,

which is c A, which are also the first two

letters of Anastasia and Casey.

Speaker 1: I remember that again, this was six months ago, but

I remember someone on social media posting about the book

and they showed that the date on it was the

day before. And then I remember the whole AI thing,

and I remember it was completely taking off the internet

us all. I remember all of that. I saw some

of that stuff because I go down the rabbit Hole

conspiracy group pages and on Breddit and everything else, and

there was post on there about that. So that is

interesting to me.

Speaker 3: I mean, especially since I'm telling everyone that I am

quite literally moving through time and people have asked so

often about that book online. There's multiple, you know, pages

where people are talking about that thing.

Speaker 2: And I am saying, now that that question is answered,

that I'm answering.

Speaker 1: It didn't you. Is there a reason why you use

the pseudonym Sweden m whatever the how to pronounce.

Speaker 3: For that name, because originally I didn't. I didn't want

anyone to know. This was never going to be something

that was going to get put out there. Also, it

was paid in cash from a small publishing company and

I didn't and the actual author copy is burned. It

was never going to be anything that I wanted. Because

one I talked about this earlier, when you asked me

about profiting, you can't profit. If you attempt to profit,

it attacks you. Therefore, I could not profit off the

book anyway, and I didn't want it to be traced

back to me in any way.

Speaker 2: So that's the reason why if there's questions about that,

that's why.

Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I just remember when I saw that it

was literally like a day or two after the whole

thing had happened, someone had been posting that book and

there's a big old rabbit hole about the book and

there was no information about the author. People were saying

the author wasn't a real person, and that's when the

whole AI thing came about. But I was thinking, even

if it was AI, someone still has to program the

AI to create a book. They had to put it

up on Amazon, it has to go through an approval process.

It's not just something that they could have done instantaneously,

because I've released stuff through Amazon too, and it does

take several days far to go through the processing. So

for me, I was like, it's awful convenient that it

comes out the original date was the day before and

then then the show and is like two days afterwards.

I was like, someone would have had to literally have

written a book in a day with AI got everything

that like, it just the timeframe didn't match up. It

didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Speaker 2: No, I mean it one hundred percent makes no sense.

Speaker 3: Uh, there's no way it could have went through that fast,

and there's and why did they even change the date?

Nobody changes the date on when it's released. But they

did hear.

Speaker 2: Uh.

Speaker 3: They don't scrub things from the internet. Generally speaking. They

might say this book is, you know, not available anymore

or whatever for whatever reason. But but to completely scrub it,

that's that's a little suspicious, right, that's, as we say,

a little suss.

Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very very suss because I have noticed too,

like if I order copies of the books that I've made,

the date on them of when they've were printed does change,

but the actual date that it was uploaded should have

never changed.

Speaker 3: No, yeah, breathing, So this is exactly what I'm talking about.

There are things that they attempt to hide, and they

do for a reason, and there's a bunch of them

that I'm sure you're very familiar with. For example, are

you familiar with Danny Gohler and his experiment where he

was showing that there is a code that there literally is,

and they were looking at it through red NM sixty

five diffracted laser and what they did is they put

the people on DMT. Now I understand the DMT is

a hallucinogenic drug. We've talked about that before. But the

fact is is that when people have hallucinogenic drugs.

Speaker 2: They see different things.

Speaker 3: You don't all see the same thing, right, but everybody

seem to see the same thing. And so what I'm

saying is, all of a sudden they come out and

they debunk this and they say this guy's a nut.

This isn't true, and they make him sound like a crazy.

It's not the case. He was seeing the code. And

they did the same thing with Max Laughlin. If you've

ever looked into him's thirteen year old kids, saying that

there was these different dimensions and different realities and he

ended up creating some a way to create free energy.

And what they did is they they shut him up.

All of a sudden, he's not talking anymore. They were

that he was supposed to go to these big conferences

and say things and just no more. Because that's that's

how they do. They say you're crazy. When they can't

prove that you're crazy, then they threaten you. When they

threaten you, if that doesn't work, then they finish you.

Speaker 1: Kind of like what they did to Nicola Tesslo years ago.

Speaker 2: Yes, Nikola Tesla. Yeah.

Speaker 3: And one of the greatest things that I loved about

what he said was that if we understood the power

of three six nine that we would conceivably run the universe, right,

So there there is so much in those numbers, and

that that's actually part of you know, the things that

I'll be teaching, you know, in my in my school program,

when I'm helping people to learn who they truly are.

Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about the schooling stuff

before he finishes. Is this something you just started doing

recently or.

Speaker 3: Yes, this is a gist. I haven't even released the

first one yet. Okay, so so we we we just

got on there and I'm really looking forward to that

should be next week when we release the first teachings.

Speaker 1: Okay, Now, is that something you're offering for free or

is it something that.

Speaker 2: You're that one.

Speaker 3: No, we're we're not, but we're not very high priced realistically.

It's uh, there's people on there that are, you know,

one hundred and something dollars a month. We're talking twenty

three dollars a month. It's just for my time to actually,

you know, create spend my time doing it. But I

just really want people to have a chance to find

out who they are. And it's more about that than

it is about the money. But we all have to

make a living and do the things that we.

Speaker 2: Have to do.

Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I get it. I've said that too. It's

like I do this podcast and there's commercials that get

put in here for when people listen, or there's advertisements.

I don't have any control over what advertisements are placed

or whatever, but it's like it's kind of like selling

out at that point because you have to make money

to cover the overhead cost of doing something like this.

Because people like to complain, but I put a lot

of time, money, and energy into doing stuff like this,

so I can't just keep doing it at a loss.

Even though I'm still at a loss, it's not it's

not as deep of a loss as it has been,

not as deep.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we all have to, you know, we got

to make a living somehow and do and what we do.

So right, I understand that one hundred percent.

Speaker 1: Where can anyone find information about the classes that you're

going to be offering?

Speaker 3: Uh, you can go on school the app itself and

just look up your supernatural too or will Cameron and

it should and it should show up on there and

they can read about it on the actual app itself.

I haven't been advertising, you know, outside of the app yet. Well,

probably will do that in the future, but but for now,

You're Supernatural too, is what it's called.

Speaker 2: And even just go on the school app and find it.

Speaker 1: And so by the time this episode airs, it will

probably already be available at that point, because I'm usually

several weeks ahead of recording schedules, so before it gets

released before.

Speaker 3: Okay, so everybody out there, it's it's already out Thereah.

Speaker 1: It should already be out there before we kind of

wrap things up. There's a couple of things I actually

wanted to ask, like, when you're doing the window Man

and everything, is this something that you would want to

share with other people have had to maybe figure something

out like that, or you think there's too much ramifications

for going and giving that possible abilities to other people.

Speaker 3: Well, first, I don't believe that everyone as the window

Man or as or that's their gift. I believe everyone's

is unique, So I don't know what their gifting would

look like. I just want to help people step into it.

And I do think that they're all for use. They're

all They weren't given for no reason, and not even

this one was given for no reason. This was there

even with the ramifications and all of the things that

I've seen, you know, where it's tried to kill me,

where it's tried to do multiple things. There's a reason

behind it. And so there's a reason behind everyone's gifts.

So yes, I want to help them unlock their gifts,

believing that, uh, that's how we bring about the end.

Speaker 2: At the end of the simulation.

Speaker 1: What is after the simulation? Have any any England any

idea of what could possibly be after the simulation, like

if we were at all to wake up from the simulation, like,

what would it be?

Speaker 2: Okay?

Speaker 3: Well, I mean I have my my beliefs on that,

and I believe that the that the darker force, I

believe are the fallen ones. I believe that present when

the code was written, and that when we wake up,

that we we transcend this thing and and see who

we really are and where we really came from, you know,

and stare into the face of the Creator. I believe

that one hundred percent that this is uh, this is

just us being locked in something a prison for our

minds until we actually awaken and we we find out

who we truly are. And I can say this that

I believe that of the two hundred that are falling

that and that's how many that they couldn't stand against

one fully awakened. It's a that's how powerful we truly are,

and people just don't understand that.

Speaker 2: And this is what that's the thing that.

Speaker 3: We need to step into our giftings in order to

to exit this thing.

Speaker 2: And when we do, we're going to find out that

we were far more powerful than we ever imagined.

Speaker 1: You said there was two hundred fall on a zero

reason that you know that there's two hundred.

Speaker 2: Yes, there are two hundred craters. Okay, yeah, in the

in the earth.

Speaker 3: This is where it's one's still on fire actually, which

is kind of which is kind of interesting. There are

two hundred creators. This is where they came through. Okay,

that's that's exactly what happened there.

Speaker 1: I actually saw I saw things. Someone sent it to

me about a month and a half, two months ago.

It was actually a link to a page I did

an article about that that the craters were actually where

the fallen it came from. So interesting, Again, we say,

I don't believe in coincidences, So it's you just brought

something up to someone else that just said to me

not long ago. So when I see things like that,

it's just like, oh, okay, it's one of those things

like it's not de jeu vous, but it's like this

was something that was meant to.

Speaker 2: Confirmation.

Speaker 1: Yeah, it confirms some stuff for me. But well, we've

been going on for a little over an hour. I

try and keep these right about at an hour. So

is there anything else you would like to discuss before

we wrap these this up?

Speaker 2: Uh?

Speaker 3: Well, I mean I could talk about you know, the

frequency binders if you if you'd like to hear about that.

Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever you want to talk about, I'm good with that.

Speaker 2: And this one.

Speaker 3: And first of all, let me let me preface this

by saying that the first two that I'm going to

give you, and this isn't all of them, but the

first two that I'm going to give you are going

to be things that are easy to understand. The third

one is something that will actually probably bring a whole

bunch of comments and it probably permeate the comments section

more than anything we've talked about, which is kind of crazy,

but because we've said some ridiculous things. But the first

thing is your your job, you know, working a forty

hour week job, where you're basically focused on only your

evenings and your weekends.

Speaker 2: It you bound in.

Speaker 3: A in a lower frequency where your in frustration and

all of these different things, and so you don't actually

look inward because you're you're too focused on these moments.

Speaker 2: That you have that are your your peace time.

Speaker 3: So so obviously I think a lot of people look

at that and go, yeah, that's that's true. The second

is your screens, you know, I mean your television, your computer,

your phone, all all of these things they keep you bound.

Speaker 2: You know, you're.

Speaker 3: Scrolling, just doom scrolling, looking through you know, different things,

and you know, taking a hit of dopamine that we

get whenever we you know, see somebody likes our post,

and that keeps you bound as well.

Speaker 2: So these things are things that need to be limited.

Speaker 3: And I understand that, like a forty hour week job

for some people is just something you can't get around.

Speaker 2: It's a very tough thing.

Speaker 3: But if we could get ourselves into a place where

we were making our own hours and we were doing

something we loved versus something that we hate and working

for somebody else, then that helps you to elevate your frequency.

But the third one, the one that is most I

guess it pisses most people off. And I don't really

care because the truth of the matter is, it's like

I'm here to tell truth, and if truth offends people,

then it offends people. But animals are huge frequency binders

and uh and chief amongst those animals are dogs. And

the reason being that dogs are such frequency binders. And

like I said, I won't just say it, I will

explain it. A dog's bark, let's off a frequency that

lowers your own, okay, and anytime that you have more

than one dog, you're compounding all these effects. Like so

it's it's it's way worse. Number two, A dog has

a smell. Now your old factory is picking that up.

Regardless of whether you go nose blind to it or not,

it's still being picked up and it's lowering your frequency.

You set on your couch, you get hair on your clothes.

Now you got this hair on your clothes, and now

you're pissed, right, So it's lowering your frequency. When you're

trying to go out. You got to take a lint

roller to yourself. This is not this is not something

you want to do. You step outside, you step in

a landmine. Okay, now you're frustrated. Some people say, man,

I'm good at cleaning it all up. So you're spending

your life, you know, picking up crap, which is also

not something that is helpful to your frequency. You want

to go somewhere, and you can't go anywhere because nobody

wants to take care of the dog or the multiple

dogs in a lot of cases. So now it's like

you have a couple of choices. One choice is I

don't go. Second choice is I pay somebody, and now

that comes out of my trip fund, and now I

don't get to do all the things that I wanted

to do. And then you've got your third choice, which

is I take them with me, and now they're lowering

my frequency and a time it should be raising. And

so you know, like I said, I don't like to

spend too much time on that, and I do want

to give a disclaimer and say that I also understand

for people out there that you know, there are seeing

eye dogs that do some really good things. They are

bloodhounds that have found you know, the dead bodies and

things like that. There are or tracked people down there

is the canines who work for the police, department and

defend you know, police life officer lives things like that.

And some heroic dogs have done some stuff. Heck, a

dog saved my own dad's life, drug him in from

out in the water when he was cramping up. There

are heroic acts that happened, but they just weren't simply

meant to be in every single house across them.

Speaker 1: Is there anything like you talk about dogs, but is

there anything other than like other animal type aspects to

it that have similarities to that or is it just h.

Speaker 3: You mean other animals that do the same things. Yeah,

oh absolutely, a cat's they do the same thing.

Speaker 2: I've got a cat. I didn't have a cat.

Speaker 3: My ex wife had a cat and it was her

daughter's and it would come over and it would stick

its hand underneath the little space in the door at night,

and it would smack the door, you know, or when

you're trying to sleep, it would run and it would

just jump into the blinds, you know, in the window.

It just it did ridiculous things. And so cats are

only a little bit better than dogs. And I say

that because you can generally kind of leave a cat alone, right,

you know, whereas you can't really leave a dog alone.

So a cat gets just that little notch being slightly

better than the dog as far as that goes.

Speaker 2: And then they don't bark.

Speaker 3: They do do their meowing and all that kind of stuff,

but it's it's not as bad, but still they're they're close.

A lot of animals do bind the frequency, and it's

I know it's hard for people to understand, but it's

it's the truth.

Speaker 1: Is it better off to not have a pet.

Speaker 3: For all the people out there, yes, yes, it is

one hundred percent better off not to have a pet.

You know, I've said this multiple times before, but I

think that a dog or an animal is really just

especially a dog, is just looking for something that you want,

and you're making it the dog. For example, you want

home protection, you want something to alert you, right, It's like,

well an alarm would do that. You want protection, a

gun would do that. Do you want companionship? A partner

would do that? You know. So it's just it's not

necessary in every case to have a dog, and we've

made it this very normal thing for everybody to have

dogs in multiple in a lot of cases.

Speaker 1: Yeah, I have two dogs, two cats, and two goats.

Speaker 2: Goats, I would imagine the goats probably give you the

least hard time. Huh.

Speaker 1: The goats are about the easiest to maintain because they

live out back and eat the grass and rarely do

I have to go and do anything with them. But

if they see me, they still go out there and

scream that they want me to feed them, even though

they've got acres of grass to go eat.

Speaker 2: If given the choice, I would take the goats.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the goats. They can be pretty funny. They're goofy,

but they're also dumb but also smart. They're the smartest

dumb animal I've ever.

Speaker 2: Seen, the smartest dumb man.

Speaker 1: Why of that, they get their heads stuck in the fence,

but they will figure out ways to escape that you

wouldn't think they'd figure out. So it's just kind of crazy. Well, well,

you can probably wrap this one up, but before we do,

for anyone that's curious and interested, is there a way

for them to reach out to you they'd like to

talk with you or something?

Speaker 2: Sure?

Speaker 3: Absolutely, I have a TikTok at Papa Will's Reviews.

Speaker 2: And I do food.

Speaker 3: You know, I'm a food critic, so food reviews on there,

and yeah, if somebody'd like to d m me. Go

go right ahead. You can message me on school as well.

If that's something you'd like to do. You can look

me up on Facebook. I have a page just under

Will Cameron, so Instagram all kinds of different places where

people could could go ahead and message me and d

m me. I'm more than happy to get back to everybody.

Speaker 1: Awesome. I will try it and remember to put that

in the show notes, or if you send it to

me in an email, I'll just copy it and put

it in there.

Speaker 2: All right, you got it?

Speaker 1: Well, Will, It has been a pleasure talking to you.

It's very interesting, very informative, and gives you a lot

to think about.

Speaker 2: That's awesome. It was a pleasure. I enjoyed it very much.

Speaker 1: Well, you have a good night, all right, you do.

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