Ryan Smith Gets Interrogated - Mans Disgusting Secret Leads to Raid & Arrest In New Jersey
Ryan Smith Gets Interrogated - Mans Disgusting Secret Leads to Raid & Arrest In New Jersey
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Speaker 1: Welcome to your top true crime hob for the variety
in episodes you're looking for enjoy where we had.
Speaker 2: A conversation prior, which is looking to talk to you
a little bit, a little bit further on.
Speaker 3: Have the investigations progressed.
Speaker 4: Before I get started, and I'm going to read your
Marianda rights, I do need to advise you that.
Speaker 3: You are going to be charged today for several charges
relating to child expation, including the welfare of children. You
do have the right to remain silent and refuse to
answer any questions. Do you understand that?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay. With that being said, are you willing to have
a conversation with us today?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay. You gave us a lot of information the
last time. You're very cooperative. I appreciate that, so thank
you very much. We had your phone, we have the data.
Speaker 3: From your phone, so we've had some time to go
through some of that.
Speaker 4: And I know that prior meeting with us, you had
mentioned that you would attempted to remove what you could.
Speaker 3: Off the device.
Speaker 2: Prior speaking with us, some items on the device of concern,
so we wanted to talk to you a little bit
more about that.
Speaker 4: Can you fill me in as to how you initially
got in touch with.
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, it started through Snapchat.
Speaker 3: How did you find her? Through the quick ad feature?
Speaker 6: So it's like lists people that you might know based
on who you already have added.
Speaker 5: It just happens I had her.
Speaker 2: You just started talking in So at what point in
time did you realize that she was she was.
Speaker 6: Local to the area, Probably like a month or two
into like talking to her.
Speaker 4: And so when you started talking to her, was it
pretty Was it a pretty abrupt conversation where you initially,
you know, just started conversing with her and requesting her
to send you photos.
Speaker 5: It was sort of Yeah, I think I entertained that
at the beginning.
Speaker 3: And you had been conversing with her for several years
at this point, right, Yes, that's correct, all right. And
when you initially met her, how old was she fourteen?
Speaker 5: Maybe turning fifteen?
Speaker 2: In this conversation, you'd initially asked her for photos?
Speaker 3: Is that accurate? Yeah, that's that's accurate. And did you
offer her anything in return for that? So at the time, no,
what about financially? Did you offer her anything financially in
return for photos?
Speaker 6: It was never a photos but the most she ever
sent me was exchange with me was like bikini photos, right,
but yeah, there was like financial incentive.
Speaker 3: Behind that that I employed. What would you give her
for those photos? It would be like one hundred dollars
for like one or two of them. And how would
you give it to her?
Speaker 5: Usually PayPal? She had like a PayPal under another name.
Speaker 3: Do you know why she used that?
Speaker 5: I think it might have been because of her age.
Speaker 3: Did you ever pay her in any other ways her? No,
so lily, it was strictly PayPal.
Speaker 6: It was strictly online, even though we had at some
point ended up meeting in person.
Speaker 3: No, there was never like money in person or anything.
So how long after you initially started talking to her
did you meet her in person?
Speaker 6: She was probably fifteen by that point, okay, because I
think her birthday's around like February. Yeah, she was about fifteen,
because it was towards like the end of their school year.
Speaker 2: How soon after reaching out to her did she discres
her actual agdo or were you probably pretty certain that
she was under the agev.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was pretty certain that she was
under the age of eighteen, or like she did like
explicitly explicitly say like oh, I'm this until probably months. Okay,
did you initially know that she was just from like
snaps that she would send just from face like her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what she was like so like public snaps that
she would send out. Yeah, like you were you were friends.
Speaker 5: After we would like converse or something.
Speaker 6: In the RCO she posts a story and oh, it's
like something to do with high school.
Speaker 3: So when you first met her, what was it. What
was the incentive for her to meet with you in
person the first time?
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if it was to give a ride somewhere.
Possibly have you given her a ride before?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like in the summer of twenty twenty four, I'd
given her.
Speaker 5: A ride home from like a July fourth party.
Speaker 6: She wanted to go own or something, and I end
up like triple backing to that place to pick her
up and then pick up a.
Speaker 3: Couple other friends that just joined and need a ride
home as well. What was your incentive to provide her
with a ride? Did she provide you with anything in return? Nothing?
Speaker 5: Like out in the open.
Speaker 6: I just thought that we could have a friendship. I
wasn't too sure what the incentive was for me other.
Speaker 3: Than just photos. You have photos or just something to
do and like like hanging out with her and her friends. Yeah,
just like hanging out. You know the names of.
Speaker 5: Any of the friends.
Speaker 3: So it's like one was his friends. Like I liked
a person more.
Speaker 5: I mean not that I didn't like, but like I
just really.
Speaker 3: Liked to was the fact that I was actually attracted
to keep well, but have you ever been inside?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I always to just pick them up from the pick
them up from there. Did you ever have physical contact
with her?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: How about it? No?
Speaker 5: Okay either, even though I felt closer to her.
Speaker 3: Okay, what about any of their friends? Have you ever
had any physical contact with their friends? No?
Speaker 5: There was there was this one was her name?
Speaker 6: Actually she And the whole thing was that you and
her were gonna hang out with me, and I was
going to try to set this girl up with me
and I was over eighteen.
Speaker 5: That was the whole point from it too.
Speaker 6: That fell through because at the time I'd been working
at shop, right and I wasn't about to just leave
my shift, and I was like, I just can't do
it tonight.
Speaker 3: They're just like, oh f you all all this stuff?
Speaker 7: You know that it was a very like explicit if
you didn't pick them up, they would they would get
angry with you. Is that how that kind of up
or if or if I didn't get them the right alcohol,
or if I didn't do this or do that or.
Speaker 5: And I think that's ultimately what led up to the vandalism.
Speaker 4: Okay, because you didn't get her the alcohol that she wanted, right, Yeah, alcohol.
Speaker 3: And your initial conversation was it very similar?
Speaker 2: Did you offer her currency of some sort, whether it
be through cash, app apow whatever, and yeah, exact.
Speaker 6: I cash apped her. I'm not sure if that was
including any of the data, but I did multiple times
when she had actually spent time done in Wildwood, New Jersey,
where she was like, oh, I need money for a hoodie.
Speaker 4: Did she provide you photos and lieu of that currency
that you provide.
Speaker 6: Her again, never new photos, but like she would send
like just a photo like of what she's doing during
the day, just even gaining the loop. Mainly she would
like give me attention because at a certain point I
was just thinking, like all of this is going to
catch up to me and like I should try to
find someone important in my life, and like I didn't
have that many female like people that.
Speaker 5: I felt were that down to earth as as she was, and.
Speaker 6: I didn't really want to harm her as and I
was thinking to the beginning of the relationship where it
was like I was like, they're fourteen and how.
Speaker 5: Young they are, and like, you know, I should have
what do you mean by harm her like harmer development?
Speaker 6: Like how she might perceive men potential partners that they're
not just based on money and they're not just transactional.
Speaker 3: So you are aware that you know that the transactional.
Speaker 2: Relationship you have with these girls could potentially be that
mental to their development, as you explained yourself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's and that's that's my biggest regret, I
would say in all of this is just not taking
that into considerations fully of the time.
Speaker 3: And what was the reason for that? Was it because
because they.
Speaker 6: Made threats to you partially, I mean say like I'm
going i'm gonna call your work, I'm gonna call your
the Jefferson Police Department, I'm gonna call this, I'm gonna call.
Speaker 3: That mm hm. And so did you fear that they
would actually do.
Speaker 6: That totality, There's other factors that might play into.
Speaker 3: But at any point did you kind of like enjoy
that back and forth.
Speaker 6: I mean it added some to my experiences, but at
the end of the day, I felt pretty bad about it,
like wanting to act like a provider and take these
actions to be like a provider.
Speaker 5: But it's for people that are.
Speaker 6: Underage, and it's forgetting things that they shouldn't be allowed
to get.
Speaker 3: It's alcoholics to see.
Speaker 1: It's nic with the pictures, all the pictures that you
get them.
Speaker 3: See what would you primarily do with those pictures?
Speaker 6: So I would like view them of course, and like
am I allowed.
Speaker 3: To be like explicit? Yeah, yeah, it's like you know them. Okay,
Now you said you edited the pictures make the lighter.
Did you ever edit any of the pictures to make
them like?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Because there was one.
Speaker 1: Picture that I did come across where I can't remember
if it was, but she was in a bikini, and
then I came an identical one, but she's completely.
Speaker 6: At one point, I think there was like a bot
on telegram where you could take any photo and for free,
you're just able to take whatever photo and declose a person.
Speaker 5: So it was like AI.
Speaker 1: And and then with that picture of that you made her,
would you say that.
Speaker 5: One I tried, but it seemed a little bit too
fake to me.
Speaker 6: I would rather like imagine what was underneath the other one?
Speaker 3: And did you do anything with that picture? Did you
ever share with anybody? No? Did you ever meet in person?
Speaker 6: I think twice? Once to give her alcohol, I think
she paid for it. Once to sure, I think give.
Speaker 3: Her How old was about thirteen? No, she was like sixteen.
Did you share photos of it?
Speaker 5: I think I did. Where did you keep those photos?
Speaker 6: No? I never like uploaded to mega or did anything
with that?
Speaker 3: How about dropbox?
Speaker 5: Dropbox I thinks so either.
Speaker 3: Did they ever provide you with photos? Yes she did.
What was the reason for deleting her photos?
Speaker 6: Sometimes like you go through your motions of a day
where it's like, I mean, I guess similar to what
I did before I came here, where I deleted things,
but on a smaller scale, where oh, by by accident
or something, because of course, at the end of the
day myself's not being fixed at all, I would still
want the photos.
Speaker 3: Did you ever back when some of these pictures up
before you deleted them? Like, did you ever put them
on like a dumb jar of a computer?
Speaker 5: Or so I thought you meant I claud at first,
and that wouldn't work.
Speaker 6: And then in turn of thumb drives and things like that,
I never really had any of those now and.
Speaker 1: So like so like let's say the pictures, the only
copies you ever had were on your phone?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, on my phone?
Speaker 3: Okay, So you never backed them up anywhere just.
Speaker 5: To have them if you wanted to know, like I did.
Speaker 6: I did share them, which could have gotten them around,
but I never backed them up or put them in.
Speaker 3: A separate location though. So how would you share them?
Speaker 6: Usually through like telegram, you have personal chats or groups?
Speaker 3: What would you like sell them or would you just
share them?
Speaker 5: Usually just share them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I usually sell.
Speaker 1: And when you would share them, would you expect them
to share pictures or videos back to you?
Speaker 6: It would be sort of you would expect something in return.
Once one person runs out of the exchange, then it
just sort of ends because the other person doesn't respond
because there's no incentive.
Speaker 3: It's just very back forth, back forth, back and forth.
Speaker 6: And how would you move in some of these people
so they would either be like some that followed guy
and I was.
Speaker 5: Lit our telegram in our bio to be.
Speaker 6: Able to be reached and that was like ninety nine
point nine percent of people would find me that way.
Speaker 3: When you say our telegram was it you? And was
it a collaborative effort between you?
Speaker 6: No, just because like me and the brand, I just
like another entity.
Speaker 3: Gotcha. It was your. It was your your telegram group.
You were the moderator of the group. Yes, okay, I know.
Speaker 1: Previously the blessime we talked, you said the age range
that you'd preferred was like fourteen to sixteen.
Speaker 3: Was that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I would say maybe like fifteen to seventeen.
Speaker 3: And what was the age range of the telegram?
Speaker 6: Probably a little bit younger, so probably like twelve to thirteen.
There were actually plenty of people sharing certain like adult things,
and like sometimes other people would even have like an
issue with that.
Speaker 5: They would be like, oh, why are you sharing all
these old people?
Speaker 3: Like what age would be the old people?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like thirty five or like thirty ish and above?
Speaker 3: Would you say, was it like twelve till like seventeen
twelve to seventeen twelve to eighteen? Well out of New Jersey?
Speaker 6: Have you met with I had met with the girl
I actually thought of her last name through tender and
then we started talking. Her thing was like a whole
other thing where it was like I would like give
her like a couple hundred bucks or something.
Speaker 5: She would let me give her a massage or something.
Speaker 6: It was like the equivalent I guess to me me
losing my virginity. But I wasn't like, fully, you know
it was.
Speaker 3: She would say that was like the first filling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that it is her.
Speaker 3: I think she allowed to do that because you gave
her the money, right, yes, yes? And how much money
gave her did you give her?
Speaker 6: So it wasn't just a couple hundred I would usually
give her five hundred dollars. There was a time where
she had made it all the way over for a
third time. We were getting high of close and I
did have five hundred dollars to give her because I
had been blowing my money and stuff like that on
other stuff because I was just so stupid.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I just don't have money,
and she ends up just leaving. She was like, you know,
I was like I was sad or something, And how
did you know her?
Speaker 5: It was because we were going over our ages and
she was like, oh, I'm like twenty one or twenty two.
I was like, oh, we're pretty close, and the whole
thing was too.
Speaker 6: I mean, I would have wanted to go the full
way and do intercourse with her, but I think I
have like an underdeveloped.
Speaker 5: Member or something.
Speaker 3: How have you mentioned that played me?
Speaker 6: So I had always been like hesitant to do things
with people in person because I felt like I didn't
I wasn't adequate. And yeah, that's just the.
Speaker 3: Whole other thing too. Have you ever like showed it
to anybody like I've sent a picture or.
Speaker 5: Like I think I literally did, like as a joke
to someone.
Speaker 3: It didn't come across you.
Speaker 1: It seemed like maybe you were recording yourself and there
was a FaceTime of a girl.
Speaker 6: Do you remember that the whole I don't think it
was ever a thing with me because I was like
never one to really again like provide myself, and I
was afraid of that aspect of me. I thought that
I could get to them just to talking to them,
and that would be the verbal would be all it
took to see them, and then it would be like
a one way road, like I would say, oh, like
I'm asked that, but I wouldn't actually show her because
I've got nothing down there?
Speaker 5: What about us?
Speaker 1: Conversations with the house, would say, some of the conversations.
Speaker 5: Talk, yeah, not too scial. I mean maybe from my
point of view, trying to make it more.
Speaker 3: But it would ever come to fruition.
Speaker 6: But I never really turned into anything again because at
the end of the day I felt inadequate.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did you ever ask them for permission to mess
their photos?
Speaker 5: I think I did once.
Speaker 6: I think I thought it was actually exciting if I
got a yes that.
Speaker 5: I could like the encouragement.
Speaker 3: Would you while talking to them and texting them?
Speaker 6: I think so, Yeah, yeah, so you kind of enjoyed
like the whole experience of.
Speaker 3: With their picture and as you're talking to them, this
sort of.
Speaker 6: Like replace the whole thing of disks that I felt
I should have normally been able to have if I
got my self checked out years ago physically for whatever
went on down there.
Speaker 3: When you had conversations with them. Did you ever tell
her to mask?
Speaker 6: Actually that that had been one of the quote unquote
photos was I requested something of her mask, so she
did send me her wealth ten seconds snapchats.
Speaker 5: Outside of that, I never like encourage them.
Speaker 4: To mag Did you ever ask like instruct them on
like how how to do it like in a mirror
or in a bathroom or whatever.
Speaker 6: I mean, like sometimes like if it was like someone
to get a shower or something like that, I would
instruct that.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I would be like, oh, I prefer like.
Speaker 3: A mirror photo. Do you did you ever receive a
video of specifically in a shower You mentioned shower.
Speaker 6: Not in a shower her, but her she had been
in the bathroom I think in her own room as well.
Speaker 3: I will say, looked like you didn't put a lot
of work into that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I did see like you had the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: It looks like you were doing like a pretty good
like business model.
Speaker 3: Thank you? Yeah, yeah good. I trying to be like
an influencer right a little bit. Yeah yeah. But what
was the main purpose of I would.
Speaker 6: Say, just driving people to interact, getting them to like
join the group that we had to the.
Speaker 3: Telegram So join the telegram group? Yeah okay? And what
kind of fee would you charge to join the telegram group?
Speaker 6: I started with like a twenty dollars one time fee,
and then through the months that increased twenty five and
then baxxed out at like thirty after that, I s
end up gags you and.
Speaker 3: How many members did you have in the telegram?
Speaker 6: In the telegram at the height, the group had about
like one hundred and twenty members.
Speaker 3: I would say twenty members, Okay, how would you offer it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I had this.
Speaker 6: I had this like intro where it said welcome, we
offer attractive tiktoks, get eddies, get ready with me, which
was like a whole other topic where make a video
like getting ready for.
Speaker 5: School or getting ready for work in the morning.
Speaker 1: You were saying, when somebody would join the Instagram, they
would get this message.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So typically they would reach out to the telegram first
and then that would be the first message we sent back.
It wasn't really me like going out and cold calling
people like trying to get them to join specifically. I
mean there were maybe like a couple like if someone
like spammed and I saw that they liked every one
of my posts posts, I might like entertain them with
a DM and be like, oh, hey, want to join
the group, But that would be it. Like I wouldn't
go into what the group is until they actually give
me that confirmation that yes, this we're on the same
level here as part of that in that scene thing
I would write it also costs them one time membership
feeded twenty dollars and then it became twenty five thirty
bus twenty dollars to join and you get everything for
a lifetime.
Speaker 3: And how would you take payment?
Speaker 6: So typically Appapa, there was like a couple of pay
pals Crypto.
Speaker 1: Was there a popular coin that people typically use, usually Bitcoin?
Speaker 3: And what account did you typically accept the Bitcoin through?
Usually my coin days right into the exchange?
Speaker 5: Yeah, right into the exchange.
Speaker 1: Were there any like like wallets that you kept that
were separate from the exchange.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So in general, like I had a phantom lot,
like I would send Solana from coinbas to that phantom
lot and then like trade meme coins and things like that.
Speaker 3: What do you think the amount was that was in
Bitcoin and Solona?
Speaker 6: Like the amount overall that so any crypto I probably
needed like maybe a thousand, but most of the payments
were through like PayPal, Apple Cash.
Speaker 3: How much would you say you made through PayPal and
Apple Cash?
Speaker 5: Maybe five or six thousand dollars, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: So do you think overall you made you with crypto
six to seven thousand dollars?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you give or take six to seven thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah. How many different Mega accounts did you have at.
Speaker 6: Any given time, probably simultaneous, only one at a time.
Speaker 3: How many files did you have stores in.
Speaker 8: I know it said, yeah, well the one was yeah,
the one was full, probably like few thousand, two thousand, Yeah,
mostly pictures or videos, mostly pictures, some videos.
Speaker 3: Saying they were all like under eighteen, not all of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was some older. It wasn't like all underage,
but there was some underage as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and well what would be on your YouTube chant
my own personal YouTube? Yeah, anything from like comedy skits,
like one year there were a bunch of clowns that
like stopped everybody, and so.
Speaker 3: I need a little series with my friends where.
Speaker 6: He dressed up as a clown and stalked me from
like Halloween and stuff like that get pretty popular. I didn't, actually,
I was surprised. So by the end of August we
were at eighty five thousand. I was at eighty five thousand. Yeah,
it was, it was. It was crazy growth at a
time when YouTube was actually monetized. Now, I thought, my life,
you know.
Speaker 3: At that time, I was, you know, beginning to deal with.
Speaker 6: A lot of the same things where it was like,
oh my god, like there's a lot of traps to
fall into, and I fell into some of the worst ones.
Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, sorry, I did come up. And so in
the drop box, there was no in the dropbox you're saying,
or did you I'm not a hundred yeah.
Speaker 5: I think there were a couple of different ones, so
there may have been some.
Speaker 3: Underrated girls and some of those holders. Correct, I did
come across. It seemed like it was a screen recording
of a couple.
Speaker 5: Of folders, So that was probably just from do.
Speaker 3: Do you know why you would have scream recorded your
camera role to sure?
Speaker 5: Was it like a long recording?
Speaker 9: Was it like an involved Was it like, yeah, I
would say I'm scrolling, scrolling and then you could see
what some of it got blurry, and then it looked
like you would go back to let it get back
into focus and then keep going.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 5: Maybe I was just like screen recording to my accident.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, because I saw a couple of
scream refriends like that, would that be something that you
maybe would.
Speaker 3: Have sent somebody saying like, hey, this is all the
extra stuff I got.
Speaker 5: Could have been honestly, I'm not too too too exactly sure, but.
Speaker 3: Is this group still active somewhere? No, No, it's completely disbanded.
Speaker 6: Outside of the occasional person that might have reached out
to me and been like, oh, hey, where is the group?
Speaker 1: I know our last conversation you express some wanted to
try to help us catch like you know, they're really
bad guys out there.
Speaker 3: Have there been any guys that you've come across, so
you know, like a lot of the content.
Speaker 1: You got we're like directly from like females, like who
are just taking pictures of themselves?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Have you ever come across like ones where like it's
a guy making a girl do something like a kid,
like in person, not that they just like have a video, but.
Speaker 6: They're like the ones I don't believe. So I don't
think i've personally like encountered someone.
Speaker 3: That was doing that, like like doing it to their
daughter kid.
Speaker 6: There was someone who had like mentioned in a group chat,
oh like some sort of a slide joke about his
uh second or third cousin or something that he knows about.
That's like it was fourteen or fifteen. But outside of that,
like I don't know anyone did he say he did
something to his cousin.
Speaker 1: No, You've never come across anybody who said that they're
like have stuff of like their child of their cousin.
Speaker 6: No, no one's no one's ever been that explicit, namely
because I hadn't ever been like looking for that exactly,
Like that definitely is out there that.
Speaker 5: That's a huge, huge problem with mustake.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, So I was just asking if a cross came
across anybody like that, anybody who's doing that.
Speaker 5: Really bad stuff, I wish I could help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, what I asked? Yeah, did you want to
give us a minute? Yeah?
Speaker 6: And can I actually take a minute with someone else
possibly and use the bathroom against Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll work that out. Yeah. Actually, yeah, give us
a second. All right, I think we're wrapping up here.
It's want to ask you a couple more things. There's
a fifteen hundred dollars check made out. What was that for?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why did you intend to pay
fifteen hundred dollars? I'm not sure. Was it the prevent
from talking to law enforcement? When?
Speaker 5: When would that have been even dated?
Speaker 3: But I'm just I'm curious. I'm asking you questions. Of course, sorry,
why there's a check for fifteen hundred dollars?
Speaker 5: Terrible judgment.
Speaker 3: But for what reason I don't know. Was she even
do something or give you something for fifteen hundred dollars?
Speaker 5: I mean I'd given her money in the past, and
you know, for the wild with stuff and through cash
up and things like that.
Speaker 6: But i'd also just give her cash before, like here's
here's a few hundred dollars, So I felt like giving.
Speaker 5: Her a lot of money.
Speaker 6: Maybe I would lead her on that she's getting this
check through writing it, but see you sent the pictures
of the check, I guess, But it's just when it
makes sense, I would have my parents' name. I feel
like that would be a red flag to her. But
maybe I can't recall.
Speaker 4: Did you all for her fifteen hundred dollars to have
physical contact with her?
Speaker 6: No, and she wouldn't have accepted it anyway. She wouldn't
accept a million dollars from me.
Speaker 3: But what was the fifteen hundred dollars for? There's I mean,
it's pretty specific. You have to remember writing.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean I think it was just a number
I threw out there that I thought my parents would
have in the bank, and that if I did give
it to her, which I didn't think in any world
I actually would that it would be worth that.
Speaker 3: But what were you trying to obtain in little fifteen
hundred dollars?
Speaker 6: I guess it could have been photos, but I know
it seems like an astronomical amount, but like it's.
Speaker 7: As essential is in higher than your average, higher than
my average.
Speaker 6: It mainly just goes back to the fact that I
really I liked her more as a person, more than
she taught me a lot about just how messed up
I am and stuff, And like, I don't know what
that specific fifteen.
Speaker 5: Hundred what it was for at the time.
Speaker 6: It was probably like a few a couple months ago,
at least a few months ago, but nothing like preventing
her from talking in a.
Speaker 4: Law enforcement right now, which actually reminded me I wanted
to ask you about there's a there's a group message
in your phone or obsession.
Speaker 3: That appears to be three three individuals at least adult individuals.
So who were those other individuals that you're forced one with?
Speaker 6: So I'm pretty sure that was something where there was
a chat with like multiple people or I don't know
how it originated. But sometimes you'll add random people to
a group in order to be able to remove yourself
from the group, because I message requires at least three
people and I ain't given time to be in them
my message. I'm not too sure what that specifically was
or why it's named obsession, but it's like not related
to anyone who's specifically in there.
Speaker 3: But it's somebody that knew and knew what she looked like.
Speaker 6: It could have been me that named it personally, but
I don't think it had any like substance to the group.
Speaker 3: These are individuals that you shared photos of two No,
I think.
Speaker 5: I think I just named the group that and then
like left or something. I don't know why again, but
that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: So to name a group obsession.
Speaker 5: In order to lead it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: Right. The logical thought process is that you had other
individuals that you share photos with of Keith specifically, could.
Speaker 4: Have been wanted more photos or were interested in the
content that you had Of Who were those individuals that
were involved.
Speaker 6: In that chat it was whoever their contact beings said
they were like, to the best of my knowledge, are
that local. I don't believe, so I don't. I keep
one of them might have been from college I knew.
I think one of them was like in an Indian
individual or something there.
Speaker 3: He was also into younger females. I don't think. So
what was the reason brad in him to the group?
I think so.
Speaker 6: I think it existed with like maybe me and one
other person. I'm not sure who else it would have been,
or like to other people, because that's to be a group.
And then I ended up adding, like removing some people,
adding other people and then end.
Speaker 5: Up just removing myself.
Speaker 2: But to my knowledge, I always eighteen didn't have that
capability of removing and adding after a conversation was realitiated.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I'm not sure when that was dated from though,
like if it was before or after the iOS came out.
Speaker 3: Well, I always twenty six just came out. Oh yeah,
that's Monday.
Speaker 5: You're right, so we're way pass.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So what stuff was shared in that group?
Speaker 6: Message could have been anything, but it could have been
photos of her, but probably not in photos because again,
she would never send anyone like that, Like that's just
not who she is. I don't think it's who she
is with anybody, And I respect that about her.
Speaker 3: So it was the fifteen hundred dollars to entice her
to potentially provide a photo could have been.
Speaker 5: I feel like she always felt like the idea was
always out there.
Speaker 3: Just because of bad Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the door was always open.
Speaker 3: But to your parents, it's something on stuar parents. That
check was ever written.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something use and and I wanted to get
rid of that as well.
Speaker 3: But I guess I any looks in my room, but
you never catch that check.
Speaker 6: Now. I tried when I really needed cash, I needed
like twenty bucks. I tried cashing, like writing out a
check to myself and cashing it, And I guess I
was just enticed.
Speaker 3: You're right, okay. Has there been anything that we haven't
talked about that you want to let us know about that?
Nothing immediately? Do you have any questions for us?
Speaker 5: Nothing specifically. I just I just hope you're both getting
enough to sleep.
Speaker 3: Than you deserve. That well, I want to thank you
for being for being cooperative with us. Again, I do
appreciate that. Do you feel like anything you said today
has been pressured or coerced out of you? I don't
think so, Okay, And is.
Speaker 4: Everything that you you told us today, the truth, to
the best of your.
Speaker 6: Life, to the best of my knowledge, is the truth. Yes, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Of course. And you come seated out here.
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, now you've listened. Now go to your thing.