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The Trial

The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.For ad-free listening to The Trial, exclusive bonus episodes every week, and complete access to previous series of the show, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Visit www.thecrimedesk.com to become a member. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: The Nottingham Inquiry - “I am not going to stop till we get justice”

This is a preview of the latest Trial+ episode; The Nottingham Inquiry - “I am not going to stop till we get justice”. The full episode is available exclusively to Crime Desk subscribers. To find out more, visit https://plus.thecrimedesk.com/


In June 2023, a series of unthinkable attacks in Nottingham killed three people and left three others seriously injured.


Students Grace O’Malley-Kumar and Barnaby Webber were fatally stabbed as they walked home from a night out. The attacker then went on to kill school caretaker Ian Coates and steal his van, which was later used to drive into pedestrians in the city centre.


The man responsible, Valdo Calocane, had previously been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. He was later given an indefinite hospital order after admitting manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.


Before the public inquiry into the Nottingham Attacks is due to restart, Caroline and Ryan are joined by Grace’s father, Sanjoy Kumar. With his experience as a GP and a forensic medical examiner, he describes a series of missed opportunities across multiple agencies, including police and mental health services, arguing that warning signs were repeatedly overlooked. 


He says that the Nottingham Attacks were totally avoidable- and is determined to get justice for his daughter.


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Driven to Death? - Who to Believe

In this episode Caroline and Nick have the FINAL episode of the podcast before the jury start to consider their verdict. And it was a dramatic spectacle of two legal titans battling it out in court. The prosecution say Chris Trybus was a wife-beater who lied that he knew nothing about his wife’s injuries, and his violence was the “dark cloud” Tarryn referred to in her suicide note. While the defence say this entire prosecution should serve as a warning to all men that they are at risk from false allegations, and this trial is agenda-driven and relies on a fallacy that women who say they are victims of domestic violence are always telling the truth.


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Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Nick Fagge

Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

Producer: Chelsey Ranore

Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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Driven to Death? - Back in the Box

In this episode Caroline and Nick have the surprising moment Chris Trybus was called back into the witness box. Plus we have a special update and an extraordinary interview on The Trial of Social Media which recently ended in LA.


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Producer: Chelsey Ranore

Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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Driven to Death? - “She was desperate for help.”

In this episode Caroline and Nick have the evidence from a Psychiatrist who said Tarryn Baird was “desperate for help” but she felt rejected by mental health services. Dr Philip Joseph said Tarryn was so ill she should have been sectioned. We also hear from colleagues of Chris Trybus who confirm he was abroad with work when his wife said he attacked her.


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Actors: Andrew Blott

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Editor: Chelsey Ranore

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Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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Driven to Death? - “No Comment”

In this episode Caroline and Nick have the dramatic and at times combative exchanges in court as Chris Trybus defended himself against charges of manslaughter, rape and coercive control. He was taken to task by Tom Little KC who said his wife had accused him of being a wife beater and a rapist. And he was asked if he’d removed messages on his phone because they were incriminating. Chris Trybus said he was shocked by his wife’s accusations and he couldn’t reconcile them with his memories.


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Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson

Producer: Chelsey Ranore

Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.


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EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: Lucy Letby - The Letby Effect

This is a preview of the latest Trial+ episode; Lucy Letby -The Letby Effect. The full episode is available exclusively to Crime Desk subscribers. To find out more, visit https://plus.thecrimedesk.com/


In this episode, Caroline and Liz speak with neonatologist Dr Sandie Bohin, an expert witness in the Lucy Letby trial. 


Since giving evidence, she has faced online harassment and a “campaign of misinformation” that upended her life— but she continues to stand by her testimony.


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Driven to Death? - Bully or Betrayed

In this episode Caroline and Nick have more of the evidence from Chris Trybus, the man on trial. During his third day in the witness box he said he never abused his wife, Tarryn Baird, and he now felt “betrayed” by her allegations. He also said again that he was out of the country on two of the occasions she said he’d beaten her. He also said he was baffled to find out that during a romantic holiday in Scotland, Tarryn sent an email to a domestic violence advisor saying their relationship was “increasingly difficult” and she knew she had to leave him. 


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Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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Meta and Google DID cause harm

In this emergency episode Caroline and Liz have the landmark verdict in Los Angeles that social media companies knew their platforms were addictive. The jury found that Meta and Google harmed a young user with design features that were addictive and led to her mental health distress. The judgement is being called big tech’s “tobacco moment” because it’s likely to open the doors for more claims.


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Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Guests: Matthew Bergman and Carolina Rossini

Producer: Chelsey Ranore

Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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Driven to Death? - The Husband

In this episode Chris Trybus tells his story. Giving evidence in his own defence for the first time he denied ever hurting his wife. In fact he he loved Tarryn Baird dearly. He said they had a very ordinary marriage apart from their sex life which he admitted was kinky and spicy. He said dealing with Tarryn’s death was the hardest thing he’d ever faced and he said his happy memories of their marriage had been tainted by her allegations.


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Actors: Katy Hill, Tippi Willard and Lucy Ryan

Producer: Chelsey Ranore

Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.

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Driven to Death? - The Best Friend

In this episode Caroline and Nick have the words of Tarryn’s best friend. Carina Silva told the jury in Winchester Tarryn became a “hollow shell” after suffering abuse at the hands of her husband. She said Tarryn started drinking herself to sleep after she claimed Chris Trybus raped her. But Carina Silva was accused of lying - of making up some of her evidence. And she was challenged on why, if she was so concerned about Tarryn, she hadn’t gone to the police sooner.


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Actors: Katy, Tippi Willard and Lucy Ryan

Producer: Chelsey Ranore

Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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