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Elizabeth Armistead on Feng Shui Beyond Decluttering

What if your home has been speaking to you all along?

In this episode, I sit down with transformational coach and feng shui practitioner Elizabeth Armistead to explore how the spaces we live in often mirror what's happening beneath the surface. While many people think feng shui is simply about furniture placement or decluttering, Elizabeth shares a much deeper perspective. Our homes can reveal where we're holding onto old stories, where energy has become stagnant, and where we're being invited into our next chapter.

We also talk about navigating life transitions, honoring grief instead of rushing through it, and how creating intentional spaces can help us reconnect with ourselves. Whether you're moving into a new home, considering a major life change, or simply feeling called to create more peace in your everyday environment, this conversation offers a beautiful reminder that transformation often begins much closer than we think.


In this episode, we explore:

  • What feng shui really means beyond organizing or decorating
  • How your home reflects your emotional and spiritual life
  • Why your entryway matters more than you might realize
  • The connection between clutter, identity, and personal transformation
  • How intentional spaces support healing during life transitions
  • Elizabeth's approach to combining feng shui, coaching, and Gestalt psychology
  • Why grief deserves space, dignity, and time instead of being rushed
  • Simple ways to become more aware of the energy in your own home


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Sometimes the changes we're searching for don't begin with a new plan. They begin with paying attention. Our homes, our habits, and even the things we've been holding onto may be quietly inviting us to let go, make space, and step into the next version of ourselves with greater intention.

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1 SPEAKER_01: Hey guys, welcome back to the podcast.

I am so excited about this guest today.

We met through a mutual friend, and honestly, our lives have

been changed for the better as a result of knowing each other.

And I had no idea that hanging out with a feng shui master

named Elizabeth Armistead was going to completely change my

life.

Elizabeth, I'll give you a proper introduction in just a

moment.

But first of all, how are you?

Welcome to the show.

Where in the world are you coming in from today?

SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy to be here.

Thank you so much for having me on.

I'm currently in Los Angeles and I'm fabulous.

I'm feeling very blessed.

Awesome.

You look fabulous, by the way.

SPEAKER_01: We were sort of chuckling before we started

recording because since we saw each other last, both of us have

had some pretty epic travels.

And I know you're headed off to Mexico again today.

Like, of course you look fabulous.

Of course you are fabulous.

I love it.

And I'm so excited that we get to connect.

It's been a long time coming this interview, and I'm really

excited to share it with our listeners.

So, for those who don't know, Elizabeth Armistead is a

transformational coach and feng shui practitioner who helps

people navigate life transitions, professional

pivots, and personal reinvention.

Drawing on her background in management consulting, executive

coaching, am I saying this right?

Gestalt psychology?

Yes.

Okay, we're gonna have to unpack that one for our listeners.

Breath work and feng shui.

She helps clients align their inner world, outer environment,

and deepest desires to create lives that feel more purposeful,

fulfilling, and alive.

Her work bridges practical strategy and ancient wisdom,

empowering people to reconnect with themselves and step into

their next chapter with greater clarity, creativity, and trust.

Okay, it's been so cool hanging out with you for I don't know if

it was like basically the first couple of months of this year

because your perspective, I was already kind of into feng shui,

and we should start there.

I do want to get to the psychology in a moment.

But hearing you talk about it and just being around you, it

was like a heart opening.

And I'm gonna tell you a few more stories to give you some

specific, concrete examples, my friends.

But first of all, for someone who's listening who has no idea

what we're talking about, can you please explain what feng

shui is and maybe your portal?

Like, how did you come into the work of feng shui?

SPEAKER_00: Yeah.

Yeah, I think feng shui can be often seen as like woo-woo or

out there, or yeah, move your furniture around.

But it's truly so much more than that.

And it's also helpful to know that there's many lineages of

feng shui and that every culture also has its version.

And maybe specifically here in America, given we're 250 years

old, like we're just getting to remember or reclaim where we all

come from and how we all were coming from living off the land

and really honoring the five elements, which is how your

nervous system is regulated.

I think that's something that we're all craving is to walk

into a space and to be able to take a deep breath and really

feel the dignity of our space.

And so I realized once I learned about Feng Shui, Oprah was

really Oprah raised me.

Yeah, me too.

Yeah.

So every day at 4 p.m.

But I think really growing up with Oprah, quite literally, but

I realized that I had been moving the energy of my space.

I reinvented myself from elementary school.

I got made fun of on the bus.

They called for my weight, they called me shamu.

It was like one of those awful things.

And I remember middle school because it was gonna be a new

bus.

I was like, I'm gonna reinvent myself.

And my brother had just moved, went to college.

He's my half-brother.

So I took his room.

And when I took his room, I was like, things are gonna be

different.

I moved my stuff and I just declared that I was no longer,

yeah, gonna be made fun of.

And I feel like that's part of the spell work or the intentions

of how our ancestors have used space in an intentional way to

declare so it is, right?

And going into middle school, it was like I had a different

energy.

I didn't necessarily lose weight or, but I was more confident and

I became friends with the people that bullied me.

And then learning more about feng shui later on, it all

started to make so much sense of, oh, like it's often just

intuitive.

And when I work with people, I find, like you, you already knew

about feng shui, and you're already often we're more tapped

in than we realize.

And I feel like feng shui is also just a powerful tool to

remind us of how in tuned we actually are, and maybe where we

have some opportunities to do some fine-tunement.

SPEAKER_01: Totally so powerful.

And I love that story, that coming of age of it's gonna be

different.

Like I'm moving into a different space.

I am different in this new space, this new bus, this new

chapter.

Like it's gonna be different, you know what I mean?

And I think that's such a hashtag, mic drop right there of

huh, it's gonna be different.

It could be different too.

Like stepping into a space and seeing the possibility.

And I think for me, one of the most powerful things about

studying feng shui, and we should give just a quick

definition for anybody.

What is exactly the definition of feng shui?

What's it mean, even?

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so the literal translation of feng shui is wind

and water.

And it was originated in China by the grandmasters.

They were really shamans living off the land.

And so they worked with the unseen, so they were able to see

how the life force energy, which could be wind, I also see that

as like the divine, is moving with water, which could be

interpreted as life.

And so it's really actually a spiritual life, and it's

honoring and giving reverence to everything having energy and

also the thing that we can't see, the thing that has many

names but remains nameless, how it moves through all things,

including our space.

And I feel it's really an opportunity to bring reverence

to the unseen and yeah, the literal translations wind and

water.

So also being able to move like wind and water, and there's

listening, there's a lot of reverence with the directions,

but I think that's maybe a good essence of what feng shui

literally means.

And I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01: I didn't know that it was wind and water,

literally, and hearing the ancestors studying that and

really thinking about that.

And the other thing it has me thinking about, because I'm

thinking of feng shui is sort of the decluttering and organizing

of like sort of a more zen space.

You know what I mean?

And listen to all the sort of s I had in that definition.

I clearly sort of don't know, you know.

So thank you for clarifying that because the truth is thinking

about sort of my conception of what it is and then what it

actually is, like the literal translation and the historical

roots, and then putting those two together because I'm

thinking about the fact that we are energy, like each human is

energy and what lights us up.

I might be more of a cabin feel girl, you know what I mean?

And someone else might be like, Yeah, I love modern.

But it's like the things we like, and then based on how we

move through space or the space itself, but little things.

So take the cabin feel, for example.

You may or may not know this because I'm not exactly sure

where I was in this part of our journey, but we listed our house

for sale and we've been looking at other spaces, and so like

stepping into and today is June 12th, the day of this recording.

And so today, here's my crazy story for you.

After many, many months of doing a lot of this work in our home

and understanding that the work that I'm doing, even if this may

not be our forever home and I'm preparing it for someone else,

it is our home right now, and we are also going to be welcoming

people into this home to consider it as their home.

So I did a lot of work on guess what?

The doorway.

That entry, because that's where I realized this is your first

impression.

This really has to not be cluttered.

Let's talk about from the master's perspective, the

doorway, the portal to the home, especially for someone who's

stepping into it and having stepped into a lot of different

homes and seen a lot of different things.

Like we looked at 10 homes one in one day.

One day we looked at 10 homes.

But feeling that energy, what's your take on, for our listeners,

the portal of that first entryway or hallway into

someone's home?

SPEAKER_00: So in Feng Shui, you can think of your home as a

physical body.

And so it's just like the way we work out like our blood's

flowing, our skin glows.

It's the same thing.

If you are not moving the energy in your home, then it's going to

feel that stagnation.

And it's also that's what causes disease that can manifest in

circumstances.

So the front entrance quite literally is the mouth of the

home.

And so just like we brush our teeth every day, we floss, it's

like if you have food stuck in your teeth for days, it doesn't

bring opportunities.

Hopefully, someone will tell you there's food stuck in your

mouth.

But ideally, that's where, again, all these lineages start

to come together of sweeping the front porch and really clearing

that energy is critical.

Because if you think, even with our mouths and the power of our

breath to regulate our bodies, it's the same thing in the home.

If the front entrance isn't available to welcome in the life

force from the outside and in a way that also brings dignity and

royalty regardless of our circumstances, then it is almost

a home that's suffocating.

And you can tell a lot by the first impression.

And a lot of it is the unconscious symbolism of

everything that's in the front entrance as well.

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah.

Okay.

So I'm going to let you in on a little tip here.

I know we were both like spraying saging something right

before.

So the one I was spraying is called Mystic Angel.

You can get it on Amazon, y'all.

I'll put it in there.

It's the white sage and rose smudge spray.

It also has a crystal in it.

It's got a ring.

It measures crystal.

They pray over it.

They did a whole thing, like when you buy these, it smells so

good and it's so fantastic.

I usually keep it in my horse trailer because we're not always

wanting to like burn sage out in the trailer and like deal with

all that.

It's really good traveler.

But we had four showings in the first week that we listed our

home.

Four.

Okay.

So it was getting a lot of attention.

And the fourth showing, each one, I cleaned the doorway, I

baked sourdough bread, like I did the things.

And then with the fourth one, I sprayed this in every room,

everywhere.

I sprayed it, I cleared it, I blessed it.

I was like, yeah, I'm really kind of getting this like

showing of the home thing.

Like, looks good.

We got an offer from that fourth one.

And it was interesting because I was like, it's ready when it's

ready.

Believe whatever you want to believe, whatever works for you.

But the way I felt about it was there is something about the

smell itself of being in a place where they cleaned it, they

cleared it, they opened the doorway for you.

We got a plant in the hallway, like we did all the things.

And then the smell, and part of why I know this is because the

home that we may be getting into has a terrible smell.

And we can talk about that a little bit more later.

And it has been the thing that I've been like, I can't do this

until we fix that.

Right.

Now we can get into that a little bit.

But like just the what you take in with your senses in the space

is so powerful.

And that's where it makes so much sense now that it's like

how the wind or literal air passes through the space, how

you pass through it, how you breathe it, how you take it in

is so powerful.

And I'd love to hear your experience of working with folks

because it's like it's not just the outside job, it's not just

the air freshener, y'all.

It's the inside job of the real shift that happens.

Could you say more on that?

Like, what have you seen in your work with others?

SPEAKER_00: We can smell stagnation.

I think we can see stagnation on others within ourselves.

I see this work as just a tool to bring more awareness, which

really is like consciousness, right?

Consciousness is such a big word, but truly what we're doing

is being able to exactly what you're naming, there's a

freshness, there's a renewal.

And you can't necessarily see fresh, it's felt.

And so it also gets us into our feelings, and that's really

where our power lies.

And that's often because it's so powerful, what we conveniently

avoid.

And I found after years of coaching and corporate

environments where we're just stuck in the maze of our mind,

that moving into the space was the tool that for those of us

that maybe aren't ready to get into our bodies, even getting

into our home is like we talked before the recording as a

powerful truth teller.

And the truth can be felt with senses, all five of them.

And I think that brings us back to the primal nature of living

off the land and understanding how primal we are, like to

remember we're actually animals and we can smell not just

sourdough bread cooking, but we can smell stagnation.

We can smell something's off here.

And being able to recognize, yeah, that it heightens our

senses.

And while that can feel overwhelming or confronting,

it's actually what's on the other side of that is always

worth it.

SPEAKER_01: Totally.

You nailed it because ultimately the reason we're even getting

into this house after looking at it three times and not being

able to get past the smell isn't for the house.

It's for the land, right?

And again, we've seen it in a couple different seasons now,

but recognizing this is it.

We'll have to figure out what's going on with the house and deal

with those things for this that it is built on.

So let's talk about the foundation, what's really

underneath whatever someone has going on in the house that

they've built, and especially the transition if they're in a

pivot, whether that house is their career house or their

relationship house or whatever that's looking like.

How do you help someone see the next house or move from one to

the other when it comes to the truth telling of the story

you're in, the story you want to be in?

How do you tap into that?

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, there's a couple different ways.

I've studied, like I mentioned earlier, there's different

lineages.

Through the lens of eight mansions, we use your birthday

to look up your personal element.

And then also each birthday has auspicious directions and

inauspicious directions.

And the house itself, I believe the house is a relation.

It's a sole contract.

And I think we have these contracts with our spaces and

may not even realize it.

And even my space, I'm feeling kind of like when you're in a

breakup, you can anticipate.

I feel the breakups coming.

I feel like starting to separate.

And I still love you so much.

Like you've been such a big part of my journey and fully stepping

into this work.

And so, yeah, I think there, like to the story we have, what

I find is so beautiful and releasing is to just let

ourselves really honor.

And when we use the eight mansions, or there's also like

compass school, we can start to use like flying stars as another

one.

We can start to understand the astrology of the house and how

it overlays with our own astrology and our element and

our auspicious and inauspicious directions based on how the

house is laid out.

Or it's, I don't want to get too technical, but there's like a

facing direction and a sitting direction.

And so that is all like a helpful kind of mastermind.

You can sit and calculate some ways to or I see them as like

putting on different glasses, like different lens to take in,

which ultimately I think just brings us back to our intuition

and into our gut.

And sometimes confirming the knowing that we have that may

not make sense.

Why do I like a house that smells, you know, we know it's

for the land, but there could be also just a contract that your

soul is there to tend to that land.

And then we get to understand yourself better and then

understand the space better.

And there's no perfect feng shui.

You can't check all the boxes.

We often think of like, oh, it's about clutter or it's about

perfection, and it's anything but actually.

It's about intention and really having your own awareness of

what matters and ensuring that your space mirrors that back to

you as a part of your identity.

SPEAKER_01: Very cool.

Yeah, I was playing with numerology a little bit because

a lot of our area is based off of the Mormon temple, which is

based off of a grid system, Mormon temple being zero, zero

and then one thousand south.

So I had all these like number addresses that I was playing

with numerology and the different meanings behind it.

It was really cool.

And something you just said, I found very curious.

And I'm guessing some of our listeners might find curious

too.

But the idea of facing versus sitting, I'd love to hear you

expand on that a little bit more as people might be thinking

about their spaces.

But even more importantly, let's say you're gonna adjust

something in your space.

Like, let's say that your house, and please expand on this if I'm

not understanding it correctly, but let's say just it's facing

east.

Let's just say, right?

Door opens to the east.

But where you're headed, you're trying to do something in your

life, expanding your career, helping more people, whatever it

is.

And maybe in Feng Shui, the best way to do that would be to be

facing south.

I don't know, I'm making this up.

But like, will you tell us more about the facing versus the

sitting?

And just, I know you said it's a masterclass, but just like the

bird's eye view of how you think about that.

Cause I'm super curious.

SPEAKER_00: Yeah.

So through the eight mansions, what we do is we use your

birthday and the directions that are most supportive for

relationships, for health, for success, and for wisdom.

And even with just staying with that, we can start to design

your space, also just letting you be the scientist.

None of this has to be gospel, but of course, we'd want you in

the power position.

I'm thinking for your office and working with the success

direction.

We'd want you able to see the door, to see opportunities

coming your way.

And then understanding what your success direction is.

And if we can face it, that would be amazing.

If not, we can still activate it with symbolism, with crystals.

And so basically, like the question you just asked, if

you're facing east, and maybe that's not, first of all, facing

east, that would help understand what the element of the house

is, because the house also has an element.

And therefore, we would think about the outside colors in a

way that would support the element.

For example, if it was water, then that would be north.

If it was facing north, then we would want to bring in blues and

maybe have, depending again on the energy of the land, we could

bring in and play with colors, we could play with that element.

And so really, there's no like you're doomed.

Although you mentioned the Mormon, not that you're doomed,

but it is, especially in America, being aligned on what

is called temple lines is less favorable unless you're in a

temple.

Because the problem with temples lines is that there isn't a lot

of romance, there isn't a lot of money.

And so it's more of a place just to be still, and that can cause,

yeah, not the full life experience that we maybe want to

call into our spaces.

And so that is also something to look for.

I feel like I'm just flowing here, but yeah, I think the

elements and then understanding your home's astrology.

So the sitting and the facing is a little more in-depth, and

sometimes finding the facing, it's not always just the front

door.

So that can be sometimes a little more complicated, but the

sitting is always what's behind it.

And that is more with flying stars.

So that's a different school of feng shui.

But I feel like it's helpful to kind of, as I've gone deeper and

deeper, first I was overwhelmed and they kind of start to

contradict each other.

So I just took one teacher, I started with eight mansions and

went deep with that school.

And then I've expanded into different schools and I kind of

just pull on what's needed and also educate along the way,

especially as a white woman.

That's my duty to really give reverence of like this school

would recommend this and this school brings that.

And then that also gives the client their chance to check in.

We do muscle testing, we do like leaning forward, leaning

backward to really trust their inner knowing and deepen their

relationship within their space.

So there's no, you're doomed.

There's no whatever it is, we can work with it and we can also

like, yeah, give options of what would feel best for.

The physical body and the body of the home.

SPEAKER_01: Very cool.

Okay, very cool.

Okay.

Something we didn't finish talking about at the beginning

is gestalt psychology.

And I think of you as a feng shui master, but I don't know if

you identify yourself that way because you have studied all

these different schools of study and you've brought them together

into what works.

And you're also listening to your client.

And I mean, I haven't worked with you as a client yet, but I

definitely see that in our future.

And just hearing where's your client, what's their

perspective, and bringing all this wisdom and how do you bring

in the psychology or any other things we haven't touched on

that you think are important for people to understand as you

share your genius with your clients?

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think the gestalt psychology comes in.

So gestalt is a German word.

And if I could put that simply, it's really the philosophy of

staying with something long enough until it takes a new

form.

And through the psychology lens, it's that we actually can't

transcend, we can't get past unless we stay with long enough

that it takes another shape.

It becomes something new.

And I find bringing gestalt psychology into the work of the

home, bringing in feng shui, is helping people stay with.

Why do I have all of these reusable bags?

And like what is actually, it's not about the bags.

It's never about the bags, right?

But helping people stay with the bags long enough that we can

start to make other connections.

And where else that belief or that identity or that what we

were raised with, that we no longer actually resonates with

who we're becoming, is also anchored in the house through

what it's symbolically reminding us of.

And so that's where I feel like the work gets a little more in

the transformational space, is when we're open to noticing

everything.

Like the stock drawer is telling a story.

We could just stay with the stock drawer long enough to talk

through of what's really here.

I recently had a client who had just had broken up with someone

years ago.

We were shedding, but they couldn't let go of the bag of

the clothes they used to wear on their dates.

So then it became no longer about the bag of clothes.

It became what is still anchored in the heart and what do we want

to do about that?

And that's where like the deeper work comes in.

Um if you're open to that.

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's so interesting because the month

that we're dropping this recording, another guest will be

dropping as well.

And a similar theme came up in her work of organizing and

helping people declutter.

And really decluttering is not her emphasis.

It's like household management and time management and how you

organize your life, like what resonates.

But one of the things that came up is this idea of five years

that around five years and losing a loved one was a big

piece of her medicine and becoming the executor of someone

else's organization or not, right?

Lack thereof.

But that space of you're not ready till you're ready.

And there are certain things that you can't possibly know or

be ready for until you're five years down the road.

And I know you've been on a big healing journey this last year.

And if you have anything you want to share about like your

experience of where you are in that and how that wisdom has

shifted the work you're doing too.

SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.

Yeah.

Grief has knocked on my door and it has come in.

And it's like that roomy poem.

It's gonna stay as long as it likes, and it's truly

transformational.

My grief has lost my father.

And I think whenever you lose a parent, it's just really truly

your foundation gets rattled.

And it also I feel like there's like death is such a teacher

because everything gets up for questioning and reevaluating and

really getting like we were talking about in our truth and

also in our legacy.

If we are only here for so long, like what do we want to leave?

And I feel like death can often be such a wake-up call, has been

what it is for me.

And also this incredible heart opener.

I feel like my heart got shattered in a thousand pieces,

and now it's just really open, and there's a tenderness with

that and a certain like protection.

But I think there's also a transcendence if we can stay

with the grief long enough to allow it to take us down the

river of life.

SPEAKER_01: Wow.

That's so powerful.

And first of all, I'm very, very sorry for your loss.

And I think we met kind of right after, right?

So I'm just there in that tenderness.

And I think culturally, it's very unique to hear someone say,

Let's go with it down the river.

Let's stay with it instead of, I think we have a culture of like,

okay, you're gonna have the funeral, you're gonna have the

things, and then at certain point you got to get on with it

and be back to life.

That's done.

And I've interviewed death duelas, I've interviewed like

lots of folks who similar to the wisdom you're sharing, of like,

hey, how about you stay with this as long as you need to,

instead of close the door on it like the funeral's over, right?

What more would you say?

Because I have had grief very close around me in this last

year and seeing many beloveds walking through it.

Like, what would you say to someone who might be in that

space of feeling the pressure to sort of be done with it or get

back to work or things as usual?

And they might also be holding or feeling that calling of, I'm

still on the river.

What would you say?

SPEAKER_00: Yeah.

The visual I'm getting, I often just work very intuitively and

visually.

And the vision I get when you say that is quite literally

often, how I heard therapy described one time, is like

you're opening the closet and taking out all the boxes and

like we're going through everything that's here and

keeping the door closed and just through the lens of feng shui

and home, it's still there.

It's just the doors closed.

And so I feel like moving through grief with again through

the lens of feng shui that was kept for the elite.

It was kept for royalty because it's so powerful, but also

because it would it mirrors back to us, like a lot of dignity.

And I think bringing dignity to grief is to really take the time

to unpack all those boxes, see what's in there, and treat

everything.

I was just back home in Virginia and we were going through my

grandma's things.

And it's like treat everything with that same kind of reverence

of, oh, this is here, and take in the smells and will I

actually wear this and who could I give?

I don't know.

It's kind of like a real inventory of life is what I

would offer to a grief journey.

And I'm actually writing right now a grief guide for dummies,

which has also been a way to process my pain.

Because I think when you're really deep in grief, the only

one that sometimes can understand is your own words,

your own writing.

So finding those tools that can help you process, whether

through art or through a safe person that can talk to, or just

your own writing practice of stream of consciousness to

validate and honor what your unique experience is with grief.

unknown: Wow.

SPEAKER_01: Powerful.

So powerful.

And I can't wait for your book to come out if you decide to

share it with the world.

You gotta keep us on your list.

Thank you.

And I resonate also with the creativity in the space of

grief, if and when and how to really hear yourself and see

yourself and fully love yourself and exactly what you're feeling

in a way that only you can.

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like really using grief too as an

opportunity to scan the home of where the grief might be stuck

in the home and how can we honor the whatever was transcended in

a way that we can also transcend the space.

I feel like there's a lot of again, the word dignity comes up

with that, to not be in this stagnation, which is hell on

earth, but actually be in this expansiveness of like, wow, now

who am I as I continue to move through this?

SPEAKER_01: It's never totally, totally, oh, so good.

Okay.

I know our listeners are gonna want to find you.

How can they find you?

What are your social media handles?

Where do you hang out?

Websites, all the things.

SPEAKER_00: Yeah.

So my website is elisabetharmstead.com.

And I'm spending more time on Substack.

I've made a commitment to myself to share more regularly once a

week, is what I've been committing to.

So I'm showing up on Substack a little bit more than Instagram.

I noticed in my time in Mexico, just being offline, how again,

like the writing has been coming through.

And sometimes I get overstimulated on Instagram just

being transparent.

But I am also there and will, yeah, be there from time to

time.

But I think my website and Substack is probably the best

place.

SPEAKER_01: And we'll put all this in the show link.

But if people are listening to this and maybe they're, I don't

know, organizing a drawer, walking their dog, what is your

website?

What's your handle?

SPEAKER_00: I am Elizabeth Armstead.

Thank you for calling that out.

And my handle is I am.

Clearly, I don't spend much time on there.

I didn't even tell you the handle.

I thought you were saying what advice would you give people if

they're cleaning out a drawer on a walk?

And I was like, oh, use it as a meditation, a moving meditation.

Don't see it as clear.

So that's how.

SPEAKER_01: And did you say you have a website?

And how do people find your Substack?

SPEAKER_00: Yes, the website is elisabetharmstead.com, and the

Substack is also I am Elizabeth Armstead.

SPEAKER_01: Okay, fantastic.

Oh, and you are Elizabeth Armstead, and you are so amazing

and beautiful.

And I feel like you have opened my heart up in this work just by

being around you and hanging out with you and learning from you.

So thank you for rubbing off that heart opening and showing

me the feng shui, like from this deepest level, because you are

such an incredible teacher and I love you so much.

SPEAKER_00: I love you.

Thank you.

unknown: Thank you.

SPEAKER_01: Hats off to you, listeners.

If you resonated with this, please go and find Elizabeth,

share this with a friend, pass it along.

And until we meet again, adventure on.

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