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Step into the DevOps Sauna with Pinja Kujala and Stefan Daugaard Poulsen as they explore Agile and DevOps methodologies. Hear from various industry experts and discover how Agile and DevOps principles can transform any part of your business.The DevOps Sauna ensures you have the latest practices and trends to maintain a competitive edge.

Latest Episodes

How Much Sovereignty Do You Need? Sovereign Cloud, EU Regulations & the Cost of Control
Aug 28, 2026

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How sovereign does your cloud actually need to be?

In this episode of DevOps Sauna, Pinja Kujala and Kalle Sirkesalo unpack the different levels of digital sovereignty, from basic EU data residency and access control to operational independence, jurisdictional immunity, and fully air-gapped infrastructure.

They explore how GDPR, NIS2, DORA, the EU AI Act, and other European regulations are changing cloud strategies, why greater sovereignty comes with significant costs and trade-offs, and how organizations can decide what level of control they genuinely need.

If you're navigating cloud compliance, regulated industries, data sovereignty, or the growing tension between innovation and digital independence, this episode offers a practical framework for thinking about where to draw the line.



Why Digital Transformations Fail: The Why, How & What of Real Change
Aug 14, 2026

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Why do so many transformations fail? In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Jess Fraser-Darling joins Pinja Kujala to explore the why, how, and what of successful organizational change. They discuss leadership, measurable outcomes, employee agency, incentives, and why AI, Agile, DevOps, and technology should be enablers of transformation, not the goal itself.

The cost of intelligence: AI FinOps and the future of AI spending
Jul 31, 2026

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AI costs can change fast, especially when tokens, premium models, and agentic workflows enter the picture. In this episode, Pinja Kujala and Henri Terho discuss AI FinOps, why AI spending is harder to predict than cloud costs, and how organizations can build visibility, governance, and smarter cost controls around AI usage.

AI maturity at scale: Increasing the AI ROI from the perspective of private equity
Jul 17, 2026

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Pinja Kujala and Kalle Sirkesalo discuss AI maturity through the lens of private equity, exploring how portfolio companies can benchmark AI adoption, measure DevOps ROI, improve feedback loops, and move beyond tool usage toward real organizational maturity.

The new product organization: How AI changes teams, not just software
Jul 3, 2026

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Software is becoming cheaper to build, but customer value is becoming harder to create. Henri Hämäläinen explains why organizations must evolve beyond traditional structures and embrace a new model centered around Explore, Engineer, and Evolve to fully realize AI's potential.

When code is cheap, what becomes valuable? The new human advantage in the AI era
Jun 19, 2026

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As AI makes writing code faster, cheaper, and more accessible than ever, the real question is no longer how quickly we can build, but what truly creates value. In this episode, we explore how software development is changing when code becomes abundant, why human judgment matters more than ever, and which skills will separate great technologists from the crowd in the age of AI.

The most dangerous team is a silent one: Psychological safety in high-performing teams
Jun 5, 2026

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In this episode of The DevOps Sauna, Pinja Kujala is joined by Alexandra Aldershaab to explore why psychological safety remains one of the most important ingredients of high-performing teams.

They discuss why psychological safety is not about avoiding disagreement, how respectful feedback drives growth, why silent teams can be dangerous, and how leaders and team members can create environments where people feel safe to speak up, challenge ideas, learn from mistakes, and innovate together.

Whether you're a developer, engineering leader, DevOps practitioner, or anyone working in modern software teams, this conversation offers practical insights into building stronger, more resilient teams.



Vibe coding meets UX: Can AI build great user experiences?
May 22, 2026

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In this episode of the DevOps Sauna, Pinja Kujala is joined by Senior UX Designer Ray Pohjanheimo to explore the intersection of vibe coding, AI-generated applications, and user experience design.

They discuss tools like Lovable, the rise of AI-assisted prototyping, why beautiful interfaces don’t always mean good UX, and where human designers still play a critical role in accessibility, usability, and user understanding. From rapid experimentation to the risks of “design by committee,” this conversation dives into how UX is evolving in the age of AI-built software. 



AI vs humans? Why people still come first in the age of AI
May 8, 2026

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AI adoption isn’t just about tools, it’s about people.

In this episode, Pinja Kujala is joined by Satu Kivioja-Ronkainen and Dmitry Tayya to explore what really shapes how AI works inside organizations. From fear and curiosity to unclear policies and uneven skill levels, the biggest challenges aren’t technical, they’re human.

We talk about why psychological safety, learning pace, and inclusion matter more than ever, and why the most successful AI strategies start with people, not technology.

Security isn’t a cost—It’s your biggest growth engine
Apr 24, 2026

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Security has long been treated like a necessary expense—but what if that thinking is holding your business back?

In this episode, Pinja sits down with Kalle Sirkesalo to challenge the traditional narrative around security. Instead of focusing on risk avoidance and compliance, they explore how security can actively drive revenue, accelerate AI adoption, and enable faster, safer innovation.

From the ROI trap of fear-based thinking to the reality of AI-powered development pipelines, this conversation dives into why organizations that treat security as a growth enabler—not a blocker—are the ones that scale.

You’ll learn:

  • Why security loses funding—and how to flip the narrative
  • How AI is reshaping both risk and opportunity
  • What “built-in” security actually looks like in modern pipelines
  • Why developer experience and security must evolve together
  • A practical way to align security with business goals

Security isn’t just about preventing loss—it’s about unlocking what’s possible.