😎 Summer House + 🛳️ Below Deck Down Under: Thirsty Robert Dursty & Barbie's Back

Amy and Deanna deliver a late-night double recap of Summer House and Below Deck Down Under. On Summer House, they break down Kyle’s explosive fight with Carl, his branding-heavy apology to Carl (complete with non-alc Loverboys) versus his clumsy, insufficient attempt to apologize to Amanda, and revelations about Kyle and Amanda’s bleak marriage, including claims of no sex for seven years and ongoing trust issues. They discuss Lindsay’s role in pushing Kyle, Ciara’s advice that Kyle and Amanda separate, and mounting suspicion around Amanda and West’s overly intimate behavior, “I love you,” and physical closeness that they believe leads to a West hookup that also hurts Ciara. On Below Deck Down Under, they cover galley tension involving Ellie and Daisy, Joao’s messy love triangle behavior, Barbie’s return and friendship with Ellie, Jenna’s jealousy over Eddie, and Chef Ben navigating the drama.

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Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.

Speaker 2: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling. Oh Hello, Hello, welcome in, Welcome in.

Today we are doing a little bit of a double recapper.

It's going to be Summerhouse and below Deck down in day.

Dianna is joining me for Darlings after Dark, Deanna, how

do you do this?

Speaker 3: Eve gosh, Amie, I do well. I feel energized right now.

You know, these aren't our hours, but we're here, and

we are.

Speaker 2: We're putting in the tiley, We're putting the time. Thanks

for bearing with me. You know, I am doing my

civic duty. I have an obligation and I am sticking

to it. So I'm getting to the recap how I

can get to him. And I sure do appreciate you, darlings.

I mean I really do appreciate you. And you know,

I haven't even done the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

Reunion Part three. Whoa, that's just hanging in the wind.

So that will be done in fact tomorrow night. But

I just so appreciate you guys just being here, you know,

and I'm excited to talk about Summer House. Let's talk

about Oh my god, Amy, Dana, we have to talk

about summer house first. Okay, let's just let's welcome ourselves in.

Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, let's get settled.

Speaker 2: Welcome in, Thank you, okay, okay, okay, wow wow. Yeah,

And the Internet is ablaze with all these screen grabs

like West's hand on Amanda's back, of her head, cradling it.

Ever so his hand in the small of her back

or the corner of her body when she's trying to

stop Kyle. You know, the internet is just a wild place.

You just don't want to get caught by by those

by those ghosts.

Speaker 3: There's no sneaking around with the Internet.

Speaker 2: You're to take you down. They're to take you down

to the studs and then and then just trample all

over you. You know, God forbid. Uh. You know remember

that screenshot of Amanda from last week's episode at the

table when she was kind of like loving it, Yeah,

and like that face. I mean, people just were postering

that everywhere. I mean it was like they were tagging

the freeways with that. It was just like that face

just everywhere you turned. Ya.

Speaker 3: It really encapsulated everyone's worst feelings about her.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we all projected our own fear of having that

happen to us. Too. Yeah, someone taking the worst shot

of us that we don't like, where we're making a

weird face, and then you know, putting memes over it,

throwing up bubble bubble fonts over it, you know. I mean,

I don't know, he's just doing whatever they will.

Speaker 3: It's on who whatever they will. Now it's no less

than three hundred times, you know.

Speaker 2: God, I was like, I hope, just for the sake

of any anything, just for humanity, I was like, I

hope Amanda's not on the internet, like I just even

for just a second, just spare let's all spare her

that at least. I mean, it's just it's just cruel. Look,

I know that this gal is horrible. I mean that

she's horrible like for doing it. But at the you know,

as I'm watching this this episode, I just need us

to all like peel it back. And she's a horrific friend.

I mean, don't get me wrong. Like what she's done

to Sierra, I can't even And then she's like sandwiched

in between Sierra and Mia and they're just comforting her

again and then for this to happen, but I just

wanted to go back and peel back one layer which

is that Kyle made so much of this bed. I mean,

he left that lady alone so many times like that

that night, that night he left, and I just thought, like,

you know, there she is just standing there in a closet,

you know, in a big T shirt. That's what it's

been ever since Summer House began. She's just left alone,

just a big just an oversized tea in a closet,

watching him walk away. And and here that has left

her with a mountain of just emptiness and she didn't

have a good enough character to make good decisions. But

I also hold Kyle accountable for a lot of what

he did so and he can't apologize. Did you see

how he apologized to Carl and how he couldn't apologize

to Amanda. That's weird, Like that is weird.

Speaker 4: It is and it well all is and it is

well I hear no, you know what I do think

though I needed Sierra and Mia to either get out

of the bed or I needed Amanda with Kyle.

Speaker 3: That was not a proper setup front, No, it really wasn't.

Speaker 2: I And also, like every every person in the Summerhouse,

at least two are always going to be involved in

their conversations and it's just so annoying, Like, you know,

they they obviously have really dragged their heels with marital

counseling counseling because they have summer house counseling.

Speaker 3: Yeah, and it seems they haven't acquired a single tool,

you know, from you would think that they would go.

You remember how like in therapy when we were supposed

to you know, these are the things to do when

we hit this spot. But the other thing is like.

Speaker 2: I don't think they got there. I think they had

one session.

Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't didn't get there, you know. And he

also like, now let me ask you this Amy when

he I'm ready went to talk to after that, and

I would like to go through someone.

Speaker 2: That we got to go through. Oh yeah, let's go

through the beats of the not beat down. Okay, but

before we get back to.

Speaker 3: That, Okay, before we go to the beats. When him

and Carl met in the room, Lindsey was really organizing that.

She was like, go apologize to Carl, right, and then

she was like, now go apologize to Amanda.

Speaker 2: That was amazing. It was amazing. Yes, So I.

Speaker 3: Think with Carl, did he or did he not grab

too non elks and bring them into the room.

Speaker 2: He sure did, Yeah, he sure did, you know. Yeah,

And to him crying into a lover boy like genuinely

actually crying.

Speaker 3: Stop I'm laughing into lover.

Speaker 2: Boy like and continuing to drink is what actually made

that all so beautiful for me. I thought, this guy

is branding even in his at his worst, and I

don't even know he's branding so much. He's not even

doing this on purpose. He's just branding. Yeah, he's his

blood is full of branding. And he's gonna He's like,

I don't make up with Carl, I'm gonna bring these

two Larroys and then go in there and just like

toast and have them around just for that huge moment.

And it worked and I loved it.

Speaker 3: It did, And I almost wondered if Carl was drinking

a non alkin. I felt he was maybe elk, but

I felt like he also was in solidarity, which was meaningful.

Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, Carl's sober, so he's not drinking.

Speaker 3: No, I know, Oh, I meant sorry Kyle. If Kyle

was drinking, did he bring non alex in?

Speaker 2: Yes, I believe he did. If he didn't, thought that

would be weird that he would take the time to

like separate like which one is he was too drunk

to have. I hope that he just went and grabbed

the two non elk.

Speaker 3: On Alex, but I think he did. That was my feeling.

Speaker 2: Wait, what was the lingo that we were that you

were holding on to last week? Was it non elk?

Was that the thing that we were not? I was

dying like we had so last week was so fun.

If you haven't listened to that recap, don't. We were goofballs.

But but yeah, the non elk thing really got us

going last week. So yeah, they had the two non elks.

Speaker 3: So he he had the wherewithal with Carl to bring

an off. You know, he said, yes, let me smooth

this over, let me have something to hand him, let

me show him that I see him that a you know,

but he went in bone dry with Amanda, you know,

like there doesn't seem to have a similar take care

of instinct.

Speaker 2: Yeah, so he it was like I loved their makeup

being Carl and Kyle. I loved it. It just seems

so sincere on both sides. And even though I know

that Amanda said that she feels that carl doesn't really

believe that Kyle gets it and he's letting this one

go that aside. Whether that's true or not, I do

believe that each one was truly sorry for what happened,

and that they could easily get through it, and that

there's such genuine love there and respect a friends. So

I loved seeing Kyle say I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm

sorry multiple times. There's nothing more that I love and

seeing someone take responsibility on these shows and just say

I'm sorry, like and really mean it. Then for him

to just, like Charlie Brown it over to Amanda and

her two backups, you know, to just drag his heels

in there. He seemed like a kid that came home late,

you know, and his parents were in bed and he

was out past his curfew and he came in. He

was drunk and he didn't even know how to handle it,

and they're like, just go think about what you did.

We're not ready to talk to me yet. We'll talk

to you in the morning over pancakes. And he had

nothing like, not like I'm so sorry that I said

fuck you, because he isn't sorry. He he wants to

hug it out with her like, look down my thing.

Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just had it out with crawl. I want

to hug it out with you.

Speaker 2: What No, no.

Speaker 3: Nah brah no not that we're not like that gonna

hug it out? No, try again. Take two Like that

just was a tougher pitch in terms of how to repair.

But he doesn't know what to do with her.

Speaker 2: No, he sure doesn't.

Speaker 3: They're at they are so out to see, it's so

hard to watch. Yeah, a relationship be at this place,

like it's like, oh, it's horrible.

Speaker 2: It is, it's terrible. And when he doesn't apologize to her,

even just for saying fuck you across the table, you know,

it is just reminiscent of how I believe he really

hasn't apologized to her most of their marriage. I think

that that's the vibe, you know, when he has kind

of stepped out or he stayed all night, you know,

out all night, and he's he just doesn't apologize. Now

in sex for seven no sex for seven years, that

was a new one. That was a new one. I

did not realize that. And it just makes me wonder,

like why did they stay? Why are they doing this

to themselves? Like and I we I think we touched

on this last week. I mean it's sort of the

Ariana and Santoval and then from what we understand that

they weren't you know, intimate either, and no judgment in that. However,

you know we have to.

Speaker 3: That's real weird, is it?

Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it just that you're on a reality show

and that that's why you just feel like you have

to be in this situation? Why?

Speaker 3: Well, it almost I mean, what is the documentary where

the murderer.

Speaker 2: Robert Robert Durst? He had the Robert Durst moment. I

wrote it in my.

Speaker 3: Note, you did God, that was so dursted up like

it was.

Speaker 2: It should be it should be like lover Durst, he

should come up with a new flavor. Because yeah, even

his voice sounded like it.

Speaker 3: It did. It was like I didn't. Isn't true?

Speaker 1: Amanda shot told on myself, Amanda, she can't do anything herself,

doesn't scared kill them all?

Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the diirstiest Durst we've ever seen, so

dirsted up. And we've seen many moments that our Durst

like Durst esque. This took the cake. This was the dirstiest, Yeah,

thirsty dursty over here on summer else thirsty disty.

Speaker 3: It was real Durst.

Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I can't that was so good. And

he's like got business, he's you know, he's changing and

I'm thinking, oh, he's stripping down to just his underwear

and he's gonna get in bed and just crawl into

a hole. No, he put on some whites and he's

out the door. He's out on the door, he's out

the door. He put on a Chris tight you know,

like yeah, body con thank you, and he went out

and then to come back at one point thirty he

was like I was gonna take it over by myself,

you know, honest, and everyone came back with him. But

then to apologize to Amanda, who's in bed, like like

he's done. I'm sure a million times. I when I

went out, I realized I probably shouldn't have gone out.

How many times have we heard that before?

Speaker 3: Dude, that like just keep it, yeah, don't just send it.

And she was so silent and still, which also I

mean that silent just did you flashback to bad relationships?

You know when you're in that place like it's so.

Speaker 2: Dark, Yeah, you like you're playing possum. Yeah, you're like

don't move, don't say anything, don't engage. Okay, So let's

talk about like picking up at the dinner, okay, where

he he was slamming his hands down. He's like, I

canna slam my hands down as much as I want,

and then he runs out like a little little boy.

And you know, and I had an issue with Lindsay

poking him. I felt I did feel like he was

getting attacked. I really did. And I and I did

not like as he called it, her smug face. I

felt everyone was fighting for her. Did not agree with

the fuck you at all gross and his little temper tantrum.

So then he goes out and he throws probably a

lover boy at the door, I imagine.

Speaker 3: Right, always always be selling.

Speaker 2: Do you think it was a non elk girl? What

do we think?

Speaker 3: It's probably definitely al.

Speaker 2: You're not gonna throw ann out out.

Speaker 3: He just doesn't have the same genis quat. You can't.

Speaker 2: It's not gonna land. It's not gonna have this kind

of sound either.

Speaker 3: No, it's less more of a dull thud when it's

a non l you know, you need.

Speaker 2: You need to crash splash. So Carl gets up and

he's just like I'll diffuse the situation. And he's like,

you know, when he's trying to diffuse it, and then

he sees this lover boy coming at him full speed,

full elk, and he's like, I thought it was for him,

you know, so he popped off, which it probably was.

I don't know who it was for. Its probably for everybody,

but say, wrong place, you know, wrong time walk? I

don't Yeah, yeah, no, I mean when he marched out

towards him and was towering over him, I loved every

minute of it.

Speaker 3: I did too, I mean I understood what Baillie was

saying when me too did. He looked like she was

like the dog tags slapping against each other. Yeah, you know,

Kyle screaming, fuck off, you fucking six or five motherfucker.

Speaker 2: Yeah.

Speaker 3: Was so funny, you know.

Speaker 2: And Carl was like, you're a loser. They had some

good digs that were meaningless, you know, that were just

words and anger, and I loved it. And I loved

when they and then the other guys were coming in

and had to pull Carl back.

Speaker 3: Well, Carl was getting I mean, I didn't know he

had it in him.

Speaker 2: That's why I thought that it was it may sound

strange to some that people would find that attractive, but

it is especially from someone like Carl, who is so reserved,

who is like the last person you'd think would get

physical or combative in any way, and so it's just

nice to see the testosterone pumping.

Speaker 3: Right, you know, Sorry, it is it is, you know

it just as simply as it just is. He he

can't seem to translate it because even later when Bailey

was like, we can stay out here and make out,

which was funny, and he doesn't.

Speaker 2: I don't think he likes her like that.

Speaker 3: That's okay, and that's fine.

Speaker 2: He just really he just backed right now.

Speaker 3: I can't tell and that I think what.

Speaker 2: I think he likes the attention. I just don't think

that he likes her.

Speaker 3: He doesn't.

Speaker 2: No, I don't think he likes her, but not not

like that.

Speaker 3: Huh. I don't think. I think you know, you can't.

But what about that girl that brought him like what

did she bring him like a lemon? Last season?

Speaker 2: Yeah? That girl?

Speaker 3: Did he like her?

Speaker 2: I think he was into her? Yeah? Okay, then he

then he wasn't.

Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was for a minute there.

Speaker 2: I see.

Speaker 3: I think this is where the test, like it's hard

to see him, you know, he quickly kind of clams up,

you know. But I did think that Kyle Carl was

gonna I did wonder if they were going like I

felt he definitely had it in him to collaborate his ass. Yeah,

he's going to beat your ass. And I'm like, yeah,

you are going to beat his ass. I feel you

are going to beat his ass.

Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have gotten to him. He would have

if those guys didn't pull him back. He was going

to do something for sure. I believe that, and he

had was about the investing. It just was like the

undercurrent of this was you didn't invest. I didn't And

even though they said later it didn't matter. It was like,

I think these guys just need to get the words

out of their face.

Speaker 3: And it disburst the energy and anger about it once

the words were out of his body, you know, because

he just is pent up and he doesn't say what

he needs to say. If he had said, like you know,

months ago, like hey, it just like bummed me out

that you didn't invest, because I feel like I gave

a lot to your company. I would have like even

a little something back.

Speaker 2: But the other like every someone else was speaking for him,

and he was talking to everybody else. But by the way,

just for the record, I thought it was hot seeing Carl,

it wasn't hot seeing Kyle. She wanted to be very

clear that there's two totally different types of Yeah.

Speaker 3: It didn't him being a Carl's more fragile than a

China doll. I mean they were. I will say Kyle

is getting off some funny ones.

Speaker 2: He is very funny. He's like, oh, you're so sensitive.

The words that he could even find those words in

that moment was also impressive, considering that he was Probably

he's always just so drunk. He's always drunk to me,

even when I think that he's sober, he's still drunk.

He's always I think he's always drunk because he talks

slurry all the time. I would like to know, is

he drinking morning till till night? Is he a functional

alcoholic but also non functioning on the weekends at the summerhouse?

But like or is he so used to slurring his

words because he's been drunk for so long so often

that when he's sober he still slurs his words because

that's what he's used to. I don't know, i'd love

to know.

Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have a handle on his drinking,

you know, I really don't.

Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So after we get them torn apart, Yeah,

then West says to Kyle went back in the house.

He's like, it wasn't Amanda, it was Lindsay. It wasn't Amanda,

it was Lindsay. And then Lindsay's like, I feel bad

because I think I instigated it. And that's another person

who really can't say they're sorry. Because even when she

did come up to Kyle, she was like, I feel

like I kind of like triggered you and I didn't

mean to do that, but she never really apologized for

any of it. And I kind of felt like she

was so close to just saying I'm sorry that I maybe,

you know, went just kept pushing. I sort of would

have liked to have heard that, but you know, we

can only expect so much from our stars. Still, I

love Lindsay anyway.

Speaker 3: I kind of feel differently, and I'm looking inward, but

I saw myself in Lindsay in that moment, and I

think I could have gone down that road with someone,

and I didn't necessarily think she went that far but

that's just me, Like, I didn't I thought her questioning

was appropriate, but that is so that's and I don't know,

like I'm hearing that it wasn't you know, No, No.

Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't really think that it's

there's an answer to it. But I want to say

that in this episode because we did talk about this

a little bit last week, but this week gave us

more information. So Lindsay and the gang had no idea

that there was going to be a Vegas residency. This

was all news to them, right, which is weird because

last year, like we saw Kyle and Amanda in their

apartment in New York City talking about Kyle maybe getting

a getting a manager. So I don't know, this is

why it's so strange to me that it was news

to them and Lindsay just like this was big news

to us, Like that really came out of nowhere. It

shocked us all, And I'm like, that's just funny that

it would really rock your world that much. But then

you think about it, it's like he was going to

go for like one night. That's the thing.

Speaker 3: That that is where we were we were thinking he

was like Celine Dion and Daylight. He was going to

be holed up, right, He's taking.

Speaker 2: Totally.

Speaker 3: It's not that big poster on the wall, and it's

just like, well, if you're there, you can see him,

you know, because he's going to be played, right.

Speaker 2: But I think it's more like, at least for this

first gig, he's going to be there in Vegas for

like one night, and then as time goes on, which

I think is the bigger concern, which is that he'll

be getting more and more gigs which would take him away.

And this is now becoming a career. So I get

the long the long ending goal here for Kyle means

bad for Amanda. Even though she doesn't she doesn't want

him to could go.

Speaker 3: You know, she does seem quite free to be. I

mean she could.

Speaker 2: She's free to be with everybody, but with Kyle. You know,

he's right, they do not like each other. She does dark.

Speaker 3: I know, seven years is bleak. Yeah, like it's like,

what's happening?

Speaker 2: I know, you know, Well that's what's so crazy, is

like why would you stay? And why hasn't anyone fully

cheated before this? Like that's what actually blows my mind.

Speaker 3: It does seem like he has fully cheated, Like I.

Speaker 2: Think it was like he cheated on her before they

got married, and then once they were married.

Speaker 3: It seems like he cheated.

Speaker 2: They were like, you know, I mean, hold on, I now,

I got to get my bearings. You guys got to

tell me. I know that there are always rumors, you know, right,

So did he or did he not? I wanted the

oppression that he hasn't cheated on her since they've been married,

But there's always someone sliding into her DMS saying something

about Kyle being inappropriate or whatever. So either which way,

there hasn't been trust. Manda hasn't been able to trust him.

And that's that. So okay, Oh, I know what I

wanted to say Carl, speaking of the DJ thing, when

Carl came inside and he just shit on Kyle's DJ

career by saying like I'm watching him crumble, and it's

and he's throwing away his relationship away for what to

be a DJ. He doesn't even have his own music.

You're gonna bank the next five years of your life

on a DJ gig. That's insane, right.

Speaker 3: That is the interesting thing because every time someone says it,

I do agree, Like you, and it seems like he

exactly were saying he could have he wanted to. I

believe him if he says he wanted to present it

to Amanda, and like this was not what we thought,

Like he wasn't gonna have next to you know, sing

for you to Enroy, Like he wasn't gonna have the

Kyle you know, poster up. But like, you get a

gig like that in Vegas, you're gonna make a lot

of money. I mean, you don't need your own songs

to DJ. In fact, that is certainly not a requirement

that it's very much not a requirement. It seems you

don't need that on your resume. And so it does

seem like a good job to have and a money maker,

you know, yeah right.

Speaker 2: You know what I found very ironic is Carl basically

on a soapbox, which he should be, and I love it.

I want him there all the time. But schooling and

preaching to the masses about what Kyle's doing wrong and

the choices that he's making in his life that have

to do with business and looking at the next five years,

when that's exactly what Lindsay did to him.

Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean it's just right.

Speaker 2: It's wild, isn't it.

Speaker 3: Oh that's so funny. Yes, he did that. He gave

her the Lindsay Playbook. Yeah, one hundred percent, like literally period. Yeah,

that is so funny. By the way, that actually makes sense.

Speaker 2: Carl was on Watch What Happens Live and he was

talking about this, you know, incident that happened, and he

actually was saying that Lindsay was very much involved in

breaking it all up, and he really appreciated it. He

was just kind of really saying her praises. And I

know that they've been through it, and I can't wait

for next week because they're going to talk about when

they broke up, and that's going to be cool. I'm

happy to see that. Yeah. I knew that they would

be friends again.

Speaker 3: I knew it on like his chest. Yeah, I felt it,

you know, because she hasn't. Yeah, I mean I felt

it for them both because they've been hands off, you know,

with each other largely yea. And so to see that

her like really intervening, talking him down and then putting

her hands on him, there was just something where I

was like.

Speaker 2: Oh, you know, it was it was remarkable to see

where they were last summer and where they are now

or where they were the summer before. I mean, it's

really incredible. I know. And Andy was asking him on

Watch What Happens Live about how she's had two freedom

dinners in honor of being free from car with Carl there.

Does that bother him? And he just was like, genuinely

seems like he's fine with it. He actually thinks it's

funny and he's like, that's Lindsay and like we got

to lean into it and that's just how she is,

which I think that he likes these parts of her,

which was just really sweet. He seems to just boy

his trajectory and he's really the star at this point. Wow,

don't you think like he's a star in his own way.

It's just been a slow and steady journey upward and

to watch what he's been through is really amazing.

Speaker 3: And his soft bar doing okay, do we know might

not go there? We would say, okay, but I just

don't know. I love talking I love saying watch what happens?

Just wondering how what are the numbers? Do you have

any numbers?

Speaker 2: Yeah? I didn't get the numbers. I don't recall him.

Speaker 3: Doors are open doors are still Oh I don't not great,

that's not great.

Speaker 2: Ro Okay. So Kyle is really broken up about this

conversation that he had with Cia on the beach, saying

that they should separate, and again when they went out

that night, she's and she said this to him again,

which is like, you guys cannot do this anymore. You know,

you can't live like this.

Speaker 3: Now.

Speaker 2: Amanda seems to not like that because in her confessional

she just really shaded Sierra by saying, like she really

likes to say things that I say in my mind,

she likes to say out loud. I thought she was

thanking her for that, and he's maybe I have it wrong. No,

I mean not thanking her, but like, you know.

Speaker 3: Like almost like like in a way by sticking up

for like Sierra's sticking up for her was how I

took it.

Speaker 2: But you right, No, now I'm thinking you might be right.

Well either way, well.

Speaker 3: Either way it doesn't even matter because she has just

been yeah completely, Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter

because Amanda doesn't deserve any of it, whatever of it's

right or wrong. You know.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I did appreciate Lindsay saying to Kyle right away

pretty quickly. You have to stop saying fuck you to Amanda.

I did Carl saying that you've got to stop this.

That's just awful dark and he he won't have it

because he feels so justified in this treatment. And now

now that we're on the other side, knowing what this is,

what this is leading up to with Amanda and West,

I do see it as Amanda's just letting you know, Kyle, Yes,

slowly fade away, and she's just gonna do whatever she

wants to do in that moment, and with a very

inappropriate person to do it with and doesn't care.

Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think when when when Kyle said Amanda

was eating it up, she was sitting across from the

table and she was eating it up. I was like, bingo,

she was fucking eating it up. And you're right and

that and that does deserve a fuck you, even though

even though it's.

Speaker 2: Totally wrong of course that we got an eye into

his world.

Speaker 3: Yes, eating it up was accurate, and she was like,

I didn't even say anything. I didn't even say. He

knows her game, he sees the pieces and he's like,

you know, I have no support from this person.

Speaker 2: Or anybody around him, because no one sees it at

this point.

Speaker 3: Right right, that's true.

Speaker 2: He really is on an island. So it's like you're

watching him fall apart, hurt. Yeah, wild. It's hard because

he is really been the the obvious aggressor in the yeah,

in the derangement of their relationship, and but she's been

a sleeper cell mm hmm. So I don't know what's worse.

I think they're too pretty not so great.

Speaker 3: It's both very toxic and it's just to be in

that state for that long. I mean, anyone who's guys,

if any darlings are in this kind of situation, let

this just be a pocautionary tale, like just get out

and save yourself because no one wins like you are

just in something that you're in a loop of toxicity,

and it's like it's just so bad. Like I did think,

thank God, after we're seeing them, we're seeing him have

a come to Jesus. It seems like he's literally breaking

down down and getting real about it, which I don't

know that he because like Carl hadn't seen that before,

so I really don't think he has been breaking down

like I'm I think that you know, the cr information

of take the month that was the He's like, now

he's crumbling.

Speaker 2: It's over.

Speaker 3: He's like this, it's this relationship is over, is what

we're seeing him really really come to terms with. And

I thought, like, at least we know that they are

split up like after this, because my god, you know.

Speaker 2: I think that she punished him, has been punishing him, yeah,

you know, and the ultimate punishment and the nail in

the coffin is really just hooking up with the West.

Speaker 3: Yeah, so right in his face, right in his face.

Speaker 2: And like, yeah, and Sierra was the expendable person in

all of this because really it was all meant I

think for her own satisfaction for one, but really to

stick it to Kyle, whether she knew that or not,

whether she knew it or not, what.

Speaker 3: Was I do not discount that her and Sarah and Kyle.

He's always had her back always, He's always had Sarah's back,

And I do not now get in different eyeball on Amanda.

I think that it bothered her, Oh my god. And

they had a very natural way, you know, he seemed

very natural. He's very natural with Sara. You know, there's

no tension there it's a friendship. You know, she's a

gorgeous woman. And I think Amanda's watching that as you

would with your husband and another female, where you're just like,

we don't we are not relaxed like that, you know,

we're not at ease and he does not have my

back like that.

Speaker 2: Wow.

Speaker 3: Really, So there is a part of her that may

have wanted to get back at her, which is just

I don't take that of that table.

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think we did talk about this. This is just my

point of view, but I think West is like the

younger version of Kyle. I mean, because that's what Kyle was.

Kyle was the cool guy in the summerhouse. He was

the funny one. He was the goofy one, and you know,

endearing and hard to hate him. As Lindsay said, right,

that was very very funny. So can we talk about

Sierra and West? And I want to mention that every

single time, like everyone in the house now that they're

friends again, is like, Hey, it's like when you're getting

married and all the aunties are like, Okay, when are

you having a baby? Yeah, it's like shot up. They're

just all pushing for that, which is so strange.

Speaker 3: Well, they know sh.

Speaker 2: That I think they're rooting for Sierra. I mean I

don't know. I mean, they all know who West is.

Why are you pushing it like to? I think makes you.

Speaker 3: Scare himself, you know. I think they're just delighted in

the camp and that they look happy and giddy. Yeah,

that's what they're seeing and and so they're like is

this possible? You know, Well, they're not thinking about it critically.

Speaker 2: He is very quick to answer everything with a negative

word and then try to cover it up with what

sounds like he's got so much love for Sierra, and

you notice that he he thinks he's so smooth, but

he's not like new He's so predictable and his moves

are just so obvious. Lindsay said, so, West, how do

you feel about being the person at the table, the

person at the house that Sierra loves the most, I

mean most? Yeah, you have that title. I mean I

would have thought it would have been you know, Mia

or Amanda or whoever, but no, it's you, Like you're

the one. And I was like, wow, this is before

we all knew what was you know, happening and kind

of bubbling underneath the surface. And Lindsey, you know, she

has an eye and she has a gut, and she

was like, so, how does that make you feel? And

he was like, no, it sucks because like it just

which immediately sounds like he's putting her at bay. Nope,

don't want it. And then he goes into another direction

to try to like make it okay, and he says,

because like this is a person that I you know, like,

you know, we're so close for so long and then

I can talk to this this person for like two years,

and I'm like, oh, interesting when someone says that girl

or this person. They're guilty, they're bad. Yeah, they're this,

they're that there, you name it, it's that person, you know,

they're that person. So he just is constantly trying to

keep her, you know, very far way. And I do

wonder if nothing happened between him and Amanda, I would

actually understand because he doesn't want to like hurt her,

He doesn't want to make things complicated with her. I

would understand, right. Instead, he's like doing it because you know,

he's got ulterior motives. I don't know. And you see

Sierra out there with Jesse and West on the porch

and she's just so giddy to be back hanging out

with him again.

Speaker 3: So hard. And Jesse is in it too because when

the three of that went when they were when West

and Jesse were in the bed together, and West kind

of you know, goes back at Jesse about like flirting

with her and wanting to hook up with her and

like kind of you know, digs at him, right yeah,

and Jesse, you know, he receives it and he apologizes like, hey,

I really was trying to just check in and see

because it couldn't tell if you still had feelings or

or what but it's it is West. Yeah, he doesn't

it didn't like that. It's about him. It's like a

narcissistic move. He just didn't want Jesse. Yeah, you know,

and on his property.

Speaker 2: Yeah, he sat on Sierra to not make that happen.

You know, he's like a dog, you know, Jesse. As

we watch him over the years, he seems more and

more sincere, so like in that moment, he's like, I'm

really sorry. I didn't mean to make things uncomfortable for

you and him by him saying like I didn't know

if you had feelings or not. Yeah, no kidding, Because

with this guy, he's flirting with everybody. He's flirting with

everybody and Stacy's mom. You know, he's flirting. He got

he's got it going on with everybody.

Speaker 3: And then some that what's the name of the girl

at the apt Prey Ski party who he locked in on?

And it's like, you, look, who is she with kJ?

She is with kJ? Okay, I want I was thinking

that was Kj's girlfriend. But then I'm like, you.

Speaker 2: Thought might be Sabrina. Yeah, I know, because she was

in like a whole different outfit. She looks different.

Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just got confused because he was locked

in on her and salivating in a way that like

he's fully hitting on her and his sights are on her.

He's like going after the prey. You know, it's wild.

I mean, this dude isn't he is a menace.

Speaker 2: He's really.

Speaker 3: Is a menace. Like he has no boundaries. The dude

has no He's just gonna like drop his game people people, yeah,

and get them off kilter and then try to go

in you know.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. By the way, we didn't mention Ben comforting Kyle,

but I Kyle seemed like such a little boy in

this episode, especially with Ben, and he's like come here,

and he's like, come here, I'll take off your head.

Come in all right, buddy, Like you know, he shakes

his hair and puts his hat back on, like shakes

him up, and it's like go on, like probably pats

him on the butt, go ahead. Like that was so hilarious.

Speaker 3: It was cute. I mean, I liked I appreciated the

you know, Kyle wasn't genuinely falling apart. Like I appreciated

the boys, you know, being there for him.

Speaker 2: Yeah, they really were. Okay, So Amanda walks down the

hallway later that evening, after this all goes down, and

West is around the corner. He's always seemed to be

around the corner waiting for her always, and she's like

you pulling up your chair next to me. She was

just like so oh, appreciative and just it meant the

world to her. Someone had her back. She's hugging him.

Who hugs someone else's wife with their hand on the

back of their head, that's not He's like cradling her head,

no one.

Speaker 3: I mean he was in the you know, when Amanda

was out there with Kyle, he was physically holding her.

I mean there you know he is, and whispering in

her plain sight.

Speaker 2: In plain sight, he's dirsty. He's thirsty, dirsty.

Speaker 3: He's just they're in something, you know.

Speaker 2: And so at this point, though I don't I love you?

Did she say it to heat, Yes, she said I

love you? Oh my god. Yeah. They they are dropping those.

Speaker 3: I love you.

Speaker 2: Well. It's because because they can get away with it.

They all say they love each other. But it's so

much more intense in that moment, you know, it has

so much more weight in that moment when like I

love you. It's like Okay, that's too much. You guys

have crossed and he was like watching her go. I

mean it was a lot, No, it's a lot, a lot.

So at this point, I really don't think and you

guys can disagree, that's fine, that's right. I don't think

that anything physical has happened yet at this point. Interesting

because I know that I said I thought that they

maybe spooned and maybe had like one kiss in the bathroom, but.

Speaker 3: I think done ice place you have.

Speaker 2: I think that they're like they are like tantrically. They

are like tantricly sexing without having been intimate. Like that's

how much they're They're creating this sexual tension to to

a point where it's going to explode, and it did

you think, I hear you.

Speaker 3: I think watching the whole Kyle fight, seeing him sidle

up next to her, seeing him manage Kyle after saying

you know you're mad at lindsay it's not Amanda watching

there embrace, seeing him with his hand on her underboob

like when she's talking to her husband. I just think

that it feels to me like the whole to your point,

which you said a couple of weeks ago, that they

have like really figured out the Sierra thing was part

of the plan, you know. And I just think this

intimacy is too intimate. You know, I think it's too intimate.

I just I don't believe that they haven't been together

because I feel like they've had pillow talk. You know.

This feels like postcoital ch chat that they've had that

they're oh.

Speaker 2: God, not fozy, I do, Oh God, Amanda's post coidling

West loher boy most goidle, No, Amanda. It's like I

just honestly, I mean, Kyle's so drunk all the time.

It would not be surprised if he's so drunk. And

he's like in Betty's like, gosh, Amanda, when'd you grow

that mustache? Good Night?

Speaker 3: I love you?

Speaker 2: And it's like West and they're just fucking right next

to him and he has no clue.

Speaker 3: Well, there was one point in this when he said

he made a joke about the shady Yeah that was

in the kitchen sleeping with his wife to West. Yep,

you know, these are the feeling. It's all he's feeling.

Is it's all there.

Speaker 2: When something is happening under your nose, you are going

to absorb the energies and it's going to come out

of you. Yeah, in some way, You're you're going to

hit it when you don't even know it. And he said,

imagine if Jesse said, no, I was trying to sleep

with your wife. Ha ha, And Jesse's like, I would never

do that. West shoves free doos in his mouth or

whatever he was in it, but deadly, because that's what

they are, very both of me. Now.

Speaker 3: The thing that I do wonder about their marriage. I

think I've told you this before. When we were growing up,

my mom had a priest come to the house and

and he found a wee chi board in our attic.

Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what was he doing in your epic?

Speaker 3: I think he was looking for things of the occult,

more trouble, like what's the And my mom swore that

that he tossed that weedji board out of the house

and that life change for the better. You know, She's

swore up and down that that was we needed to

get that dark magic out.

Speaker 2: Of the house.

Speaker 4: Yeah.

Speaker 3: Well, and so for me. And I don't know where

you guys are going to land with this, but that monster,

fucking killer piece of angry killer wood that is there

head bore. Oh my gosh, that it looks like it's

gonna impale both of them at any moment.

Speaker 2: Yes, is so.

Speaker 3: Deadly to me.

Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I can't get over it.

Speaker 2: It is a way about that it's waiting their marital

bed down. Yeah, there is no room in that space

for love. There is a piece, there is a thick

block of natural wood that's come between them.

Speaker 3: That is, it's between them and it's going to kill them.

Speaker 2: Like it's going to kill them, gym. Yeah, it's a murder.

Would you couldn't do that? In California. You're not allowed

to hang in it. You're not allowed to like put

your bed by a window because the earthquakes. You don't

have your bed by the window, do you.

Speaker 3: No, But I'm just thinking about some things, you know. No,

so far, so good, right, checking in, checking in?

Speaker 2: All right, don't do that.

Speaker 3: You're not allowed to, Okay, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2: You know, your cribs they always say, you know, don't

put a crib in front of a window. Right, don't

hang anything heavy over your bed unless it's like anchored in.

You got to anchor in your furniture. I mean, if

it's like a tall dresser. Not if it's like a short,

stubby one. If you don't have to, if it's not

a kid's room, I wouldn't worry about it.

Speaker 3: I don't, all right anyway, Yeah, I'm good. I just

went through the inventory. We're good, Okay.

Speaker 2: I just want to take a break and say that

Caj and Mia have such a special friendship, and same

with Sierra and kJ, because it's like they both sort

of treat them like their little brother. But I especially loved,

you know, I love Mia, and I love hearing she's

her story. It's just it's it's heartbreaking and it's sad,

and she's just sure gotten into our hearts so fast

just by being a vulnerable. You know, she's not thirsty, dirsty,

she's just telling her story. And here she is just

I'm just grateful for these friends, and you know, and

and then Kj's like, well, you know, my mom's going

to be in town for the holidays, so if you

want to come over, Sierra's coming over. And I just

thought this is friendship, you know.

Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely lovely. And I was proud of him because

I know that he's nervous about leaving all these friendships

and he said it publicly about just how special it

was for him, and it's an area of opportunity with

friendships and he forged them right, and I was just

so proud of him for like it's a vulnerable thing.

It's like, I'm going to ask you to come meet

my mom and hang out with us outside of summerhouse

and it's you know, it was like it was awesome.

She needs it, he needs it, We need it.

Speaker 2: We want to see like real friends.

Speaker 3: Yeah, we're taking it out of the the.

Speaker 2: Share oh, the sharehouse.

Speaker 3: You're taking it out of the sharehouse.

Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going into to our home streets.

Speaker 3: Yeah, which is really really nice. That was super cute.

Speaker 2: Yeah, well, all right. The end of this is Sierra

talking with Jesse and Jesse's like got his little, you know,

cupid grin on his face and he's like, well, you know,

what do you think? And she's like, well, we haven't

had that conversation yet, meaning about like is it is

it more than friends? And Jesse's like, well, you like

flirting with him and she's like kind of and he's

like you sick. Oh, and he's like curveball. So now

we have what's gonna happen next week, which is the finale.

And I mean, from that angle, West is not a

good kisser and he's got small hands. Okay, I said it.

So they're gonna kiss and that's gonna be tough to see.

Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm I can't with him. I'm so angry

when when Lindsay said to him, you know, you're hard

to hate, and the way he reacted, I'm like, he's

been dining out on that for a lifetime. Oh yeah, yeah,

dining out and it's just he.

Speaker 2: Gets free meals. Yeah, he gets he's dining out and

he doesn't have to pay because he's got everyone wrapped

around his finger.

Speaker 3: Mm hmm. It's just worked for him and he he's

slippery and he just.

Speaker 2: But I agree though, I mean like he is very

he's funny, he's charming. I can't I've seen it. I

see it. I liked it. I've liked it. Not gonna lie.

Speaker 3: I don't like it.

Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, I don't like it.

I don't like it. I don't want it. I can't

wait for this reunion. We've got one more episode to

go and uh and then we'll be in it. The

new The looks from the reunion came out today.

Speaker 3: I haven't seen them.

Speaker 2: Oh okay, check it out, Sierra. Did you see her

revenge dress as they're calling it.

Speaker 3: Bikini like the white? Maybe I did see it. I

don't know what I've seen and what I haven't because

I think i've we've seen some fakers, you know, and

so I don't know. But is she in like a

bikini top and a skirt?

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly.

Speaker 3: Yeah, So maybe I have, but I don't remember what

anyone else is wearing. Well, that's far for the course.

Speaker 2: A lot of like like, okay, so Mia is also

wearing like a cream color and she from far. I

can't see it up close, but it has some delicate

feathers at the top. It looks like it's a halter.

So I'm dying for that. It looks smashing.

Speaker 3: She had feathers on watch What Happens Live? That look gorgeous.

Oh really Ostrich feathers or something?

Speaker 2: Yeah, Lindsay, is she ate? She's in red and she's

in the middle of this picture and she looks smoking hot.

I mean, it's unbelievable. And Amanda's got like a butter

yellow get up on and you know, it's just weird

to see like the cast a picture because they're just

like standing there and they're like all smiling. I mean,

West is like not but yeah, it's right. Amanda's is

very Amanda. You know.

Speaker 3: No, I'm annoyed by it. I don't care for it.

I don't care for it. I don't care for her.

Speaker 2: I know, it's like a package deal. Honestly, I kept thinking, like, well,

if she was wearing something that I would actually like,

would I even be able to like like it? Because

I don't know if i'd be able to. I would

think that I could isolate the fashion from the person.

I think I could do that. But yeah, I'm not

crazy about it. But I don't think it's absolutely awful

because it's very her.

Speaker 3: So any way, all the guys, I feel a little sloppy,

to be honest.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you know what, as much as

we love Carl and like, he never looks he can

never get it together. No, say, CARKJ looks good. Kj's

like where it's kJ. He's on the far right, Yeah,

he looks good. I can't take this, Sabrina. I was

so happy. I got so scared when she came barreling in.

She makes me really anxious. We had a conversation about

that last week, and I was like, no, I think

she's really like that. She's just and I kind of

have to step back from that because I I was like,

oh god, no, okay, too much much.

Speaker 3: I just her energy throws me off. Is like I

would have a really negative reaction, Like I do have

a negative reaction to her. I just it's I was.

Speaker 2: I was fine with it being too much. I was

happy to embrace a too much person. And and then

this week I said that's enough for me.

Speaker 3: And we didn't get anything run over. It was just

her coming in coming in like that was seconds. I

was like, whoa, Oh my god, I'm so thankful we

didn't have anymore.

Speaker 2: I had to get like a hand fan. I was like,

oh yeah, okay, Well, why don't we just quickly and

swiftly sail on over. Let's welcome ourselves into below dick

down under. Well, oh god, she took my hands off

the shrimps. She took my hands off the shrimps, baby

killing me?

Speaker 3: No when cze, oh my god.

Speaker 2: Why, like okay, the whole When Ben tried when he

was like in the middle, Like he's kind of in

the middle of these two ladies. And when he's in

his confessional and he's talking about both of them, he

was like, I've seen elliet A West. Daisy's an unnerving person.

In the galley, everybody's a big, crazy, scary baby. Yeah.

I was like, yeah, you don't even know which way

to go, buddy, Like, now you've met your Matt.

Speaker 3: When you think about how him and Ellie kicked off

and the fact that we're here now, it's just remarkable.

Talk about conflict resolution, you know.

Speaker 2: And now she's like, Ben, she wants to touch food

in the galley and he's like, no, baby, I mean, oh,

I'm putting your honeypot. I mean they are definitely a

team now, and it's really fun to see.

Speaker 3: They are endgame for me. I want them to like

they are. They are meant for each other. I want

them to work out.

Speaker 2: Oh wow, we do.

Speaker 3: And I know that's crazy.

Speaker 2: No, it's not crazy. I like that idea. I do,

thank you, because he needs someone who can just take

his neck and just hold you down just for a minute.

I'm kidding. I'm really violent. That's a really violent I

didn't mean it like that. But you know what I'm.

Speaker 3: Saying, don't take it, don't take it so serious, you

know what I'm saying, Like maybe when they're having sex,

I don't know. Sure, you know she's spicy, you know

I mean? And also it's hard to see. Ellie is

such a trip. She's been a trip. I know this

is going back a few episodes, but when I just

need to say after you know, she's such a hair trigger,

Like there's she gets upset and in half a second

and she's off to the races, you know, like you

can offend her and she's done. She's cooked, she's.

Speaker 2: Gone, may go like oop.

Speaker 3: Meanwhile, she fucking dowses a bunch of scrambled eggs in soap.

Dowses eggs in soap, and when Cap comes in, she

is light as a feather about it. She's like, yeah,

I did, I didn't know this was this was the

soap and I dotty was olive oil and I that's

what I did.

Speaker 2: She had to stick to it. That was in her strength,

because did you see her face when they came down

and they're like the girl says all on tastes like

a soap, and he's like what baby, Yeah what And she's.

Speaker 3: Like like she knew it.

Speaker 2: She knew it in a second. She looked and she

put it together and she was literally like she turns.

So I think she just like was trying to but

you are so right, she just had to like pull

it together. And honestly, I blame Ben for that because

he's the one who didn't label it, and he's the

one who put it in that bottle. So and she's

so she actually could have fully blamed him, and she didn't.

And she took it and she wore the helmet, which

is kind of shocked. I would have thought that she

would have been, like Ben, unprofessional in this, but she

did it.

Speaker 3: That's true.

Speaker 2: I wonder why. I don't know why she took it.

Speaker 3: Because she dowsed the eggs and so that's why, you know,

that's really why.

Speaker 2: I will not get over that.

Speaker 3: That's nice. It just I just appreciated sometimes you learn,

like I appreciated the way she pivoted out of that

with graceful, graceful she got in and I was like, well, golly,

you don't always you know, it doesn't really go the

other way too often.

Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know how you said that like she

can get triggered real fast. Ye, well she clearly can

trigger other people real quick. So yeah, when she says

to Daisy, you know, after the whole shrimp incident, and

Daisy was very offended that she moved her hands away,

she was like, are we good? And Daisy's like, well,

he's all she's supposed to fucking move my hounds away

when we're in the medical servon in services and join

our own service and satching, and and then like so

whenever someone and says to you like, oh you're so intense,

like why so mad, You're gonna lose your mind. Like

if you're that person who's hearing that, steam will come

from your head no matter how if you're right one,

it doesn't even matter matter. You're done. You're cooked. And

she cooked her so hard. She cooked her, She roasted

her hard, She broiled her. And Daisy was like, oh,

your judge, she had to like put a top on it. Oh,

it is so funny. Oh my god.

Speaker 3: And Joe Alice, you know, emotionally sits between them, so

there is that it just is smester.

Speaker 2: What are you you know? Oh, He's like, I can't

go in the galley anymore. Because it's just too uncomfortable.

Fuck you who made it uncomfortable, disaster, you did, fucking

you did.

Speaker 3: I mean I was trying to even try to identify

what kind of a guy he was, and I'm just like,

he's just a rack. He just like put caution tape

over him, because the way he conducted himself. Like the

best I came to was he had a crush on Daisy.

Daisy's who he wants to be with, but Ellie's cute

and she was a sure thing, and he didn't want

to open himself up to the harder thing, which was Daisy,

and risk it not working out, or just risk at all.

So it's like he wanted the short thing and then

started freaking crying like a little bitch because he got

it and he didn't and he was so confusing. I mean,

Ellie is such a trip and I don't align with

her and general, but like I really was like, yeah,

this guy pulled and pushed you and he made it

very confusing, and you have every right to feel crazy

about it.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he he was trying to spare her

quote end quote feelings when it's like, don't flatter yourself

that much. It's it would have been just fine if

you would have said I'm into Daisy, so you know,

like I yeah that I think she would have been like,

oh okay, Like same with the eggs. You know, she

would have been like okay, m.

Speaker 3: Hm, and that that's exactly what she did when he

finally did it. But like, I don't buy that that

he didn't want it, because he's attracted to her as well,

and he did find you know.

Speaker 2: The right he wanted his cake, he wanted to eat

his cake and eat it too or whatever that whatever

it is. Yeah, you know, he doesn't want to be

like the bad guy doesn't and he wants to make

sure that he can have everything at reach if needed,

is what it seems like.

Speaker 3: It's the worst kind of dude because that he appears

like a good guy and he may be a decent person,

but it's just his way because the way he's conducting

himself is like God help you, and it's.

Speaker 2: Using And I don't know if that's like intentional or

just like not smart not smart.

Speaker 3: I think it's a little intentional. I think this is

probably a little bit of how he rolls, you know,

and he's very cute. I think he is very cute,

so I think, like, yeah, he's a messy little bit.

Speaker 2: Well Jenna's Jenna's kind of messy too, and but yeah

she's real messy, you know. Yeah, but we like it

because you know, these guys they run the gang the

gangway that's part of the ship that you walk across.

You know what I'm talking about. These guys they run

Oh yeah, what am I talking.

Speaker 3: About the wife of a merchant marine. I mean I

know that at the very least.

Speaker 2: You know, so these guys are running the gangways. You know,

they're putting them up, they're putting them down. They know

what to do. It's very you know. Yeah, it's rare

for a gal to come on and just start playing

some games, and so it doesn't always bother me. Although

she's just not as endearing as a personality, and that's

just where that's what it is, you know, and that's

just it's just kind of boring. You know.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 2: But she got all upset by the way Barbie, Barbie

coming back in that was exciting. Do you ever did

you see her on below decks sailing yacht when Fraser no,

I'm sorry, was it sailing yet? Yeah, no, no, no, no,

I think it was Med.

Speaker 3: I saw Fraser in the flashback with her.

Speaker 2: Yeah, that was below deck med that they were on together.

Speaker 3: Don't think I caught that season because she doesn't seem

familiar to me.

Speaker 2: Okay, well that was a great season, and yeah, she

did not get along with Fraser, and she is a

really hard worker, and it was weird how Fraser Fraser

would treat her. She was doing like a majority of

the work and for some reason he kept coddling like

the other stew.

Speaker 3: So I don't think I caught Barbie's season.

Speaker 2: Okay, well she quit, you know, as you saw on

the flashback or whatever. But I do love that she

and Ellie are friends. That's super fun. W Jenna is

not happy with her at the beginning, but then they

get along because Barbie works hard. So but then on

this crew night out, Barbie and Eddie are flirting a

little bit, and so Jenna's kind.

Speaker 3: Of Jenna's tripping. I now realized towards the end of

the episode, she was so drunk that I think, like

she drank. I have to imagine she was staring and

scaring and really drunk, you know, because.

Speaker 2: Staring and scared. She was.

Speaker 3: She was staring and scaring so hard, and I was like,

this is wild, you know.

Speaker 2: So she was like seeing things that she that weren't

really there in a sense, her brain was over exaggerating

them if it were.

Speaker 3: I think I think she was just an estate. I

hope she was just an estate, because lord, you know,

it was so blatant. It was so crazy. It was

so crazy. It was so hard to watch. I'm like, ah,

every time that got dro I was like, Jenna, get

it together, I know through your eyes.

Speaker 2: How about when she texts Eddie that day and then

Ben finds.

Speaker 3: Out when she Oh, I know, that was so okay. Yeah,

so it was Eddie that she's like missing him and whatnot.

And Chef Ben and Eddie share a room, right I think.

So they're trying to listen. Ben's trying to land the

plane and he wants the he wants a nice warm

hand off. But let's do a nice handshake and a

warm hand off. You could feel free to go.

Speaker 2: Forward down the gangway.

Speaker 3: Yeah, and Eddie's like, not so fast, you know, and

he's like, well, here's the thing. I think what she

said was she liked me first, and she said you know,

she just realized I hadn't made any moves, and I

think that's why she went with you Eddie. And Eddie

was like, well, here, look, this is the text she

sent me.

Speaker 2: Today, which proof timeline time shots chef Ben and Ben

was like, oh, baby Dade, Yeah, baby she likes He's like,

well kind a person is she? Baby?

Speaker 3: Like that?

Speaker 2: Didn't you know what she kind of person she was

when she came to your room in the middle of

the night when she was still seeing Eddie, like just

last weekend.

Speaker 3: So I don't know, I.

Speaker 2: Don't know why you're so surprised.

Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like a super hot girl who's too young

for you, and she's just like having she's.

Speaker 2: Having having a time. She's having a time.

Speaker 3: That's what she is. How about that, Ben?

Speaker 2: How about Joao? Like getting a massage from Joao? Wait?

What did I say?

Speaker 1: No?

Speaker 2: How about how about Daisy getting a massage from Joao?

She's like, oh, this is so great, but like it's

so funny too, because he's like, you didn't you weren't

upset that I, you know, was in the hot tub

with Jenna, were you? Because Ben, I don't even remember.

And she's like relaxed. We had one fucking cuddle.

Speaker 3: Yeah, so good, Like that's I love her. I love her.

She's so I want her to She's such a great girl.

And I feel like, yeah, I think she just needs

to get off yachting. I think she's just gonna be

hard to find her match. But she on a yacht.

But she is so like wifey material.

Speaker 2: You know, you think I see her as so I mean,

I see her more as like, I don't know she'd

want to like settle down with one person. I see

her more as an adventurous kind of gal. Well, I

don't know. I mean, I guess, I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 3: I see her as as wanting a relationship, but just

sort of like, I don't know, you know that she

just I think she's a little defensive.

Speaker 2: Yeah, of course she's been she has to be pirates.

She's been surrounded by pirates. And it's like also like

she's at the pinnacle of her career right now. You know,

she's only going up right now. I feel like she

is really hitting, don't you think right now she's she

is the stew Like, yeah, for so long it was

k Chastain and then there's so many other stews that

came in and out, and she was, you know, she's

been moved from different below decks to other below decks,

and that's true. She's so she really is the star

of all. Yeah, she so. I mean you just think

about it, like we couldn't we can't do this without her.

Speaker 3: I don't want to, No, I don't want to.

Speaker 2: So anyway, I think you know, those are the broad strokes.

There's anything else that we need to discuss. I mean,

I think we've It wasn't like.

Speaker 3: A crazy episode. It was just sort of oh, I

like on Ellie, so fucking buddy and Ellie just like

just such a trip. She said to Joel, who was

sitting in the breakroom. She was, thanks for turning it down.

We really appreciate it, you know, And he's like, you

just closed the door, and she was.

Speaker 2: Like she walks okay, okay.

Speaker 3: Because she wanted to give him a firm just sort

of school teacher, you know.

Speaker 2: Put him in their placeback.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we're doing important work here in the

kitchen and with your horse horse and around out here.

It really distracts us and I make soapy eggs. So

thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2: I love how seriously she takes the job and respects

it and honors it until I and until she loses

her shit in the calle, which is also totally fine,

great great part of her, but that's because she wasn't

being respected by her boss. She really continues to deliver.

I'm excited to see you know, it's good to see

Barbie back because she is a great personality, and I

like that they have an ally ship and she's you

know so and her time was kind of cut short

and you didn't see her before.

Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I've never seen Ellie like with

a real ally. I don't think, oh yeah, the good point.

So it's nice.

Speaker 2: It is nice. Okay, well we'll leave it. We'll leave

it on that, you know, we'll leave it there. What

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