🏡 The Valley Eps 6 & 7 San Diego Riding the Valley Coaster, Ripped Jeans and Lacy

Amy Phillips and Emily Dorezas go full Darlings After Dark, defending The Valley as deliciously messy while dragging the season’s men—especially Danny, who they call an emo teen in ripped jeans with a drinking problem and a talent for making Nia’s already brutal postpartum life even worse. They praise Lala as the episode MVP for clocking Jesse’s manipulation, backing Michelle in the Lacey blowup, and leveling Danny, while also side-eyeing Janet’s nonstop stirring and the baffling cease-and-desist confusion. They laugh through San Diego trip chaos (train, safari-park misery, Jesse’s “Ramona” room sprint) and toss in a ranty aside about a Springsteen rumor.

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Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.

Speaker 2: Oh hi there, everybody, welcome back into drama Darling. Holy smokes.

The Valley is what we're going to be talking about today.

So it's another Darling's after Dark tonight. Emily is here. Emily,

thanks for bringing your pastels into the evening.

Speaker 3: Oh my daytime where into the nighttime where?

Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I like it. I like it. Well, listen,

you guys, we just without further ado, we're getting into

it immediately post haste. We are welcomed in, you know,

to start with the Valley, Emily. A lot of people

have been saying, like, oh, the Valley's like not good.

It's not this. It's not that I beg to differ,

sirs and ma'ams.

Speaker 3: Guys, we have to love these shows. They are great.

I mean, we just came off of hating Beverly Hills.

We can't also hate the Valley.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Coming up next, after the Valley recap, we'll be

hating on the Reunion part three. I'm kidding, no, I mean, yeah,

was it a little bit of a snoozefest? Fine, but

you're right. No, I just actually the reviews about this

not being a great season. I disagree. Maybe you've all

changed your mind after the last two episodes, which was

like six and seven. Yeah, and that's where we're at

because we didn't do it last week. But bye gosh,

by golly, I haven't seen a group of men that

I've disliked so much since like this. Yeah, I was

just gonna say since Jersey was canceled. So you know

what I say to that, Welcome in, guys. Welcome in

because the blinders are off, the wheels are coming off

of everybody. And that's what it is about reality television.

You can only go so far without the shingles falling

off the roof. If if you neat a new roof,

the shingles, we're gonna get loose.

Speaker 3: Like it's also I'm back and forth. I'm not fourth,

I'm just backing and backing and backing.

Speaker 2: You're backing it up. Oh I can't.

Speaker 3: I have not gone, but Luke I can kind I

kind of go back and forth on because sometimes he

says the exact right thing right after he says the

exact worst wrong thing, and I'm like, okay, so something's

in there. He's just he's a wreck right now. He

just doesn't know where to land, and I don't like

some of the things that come naturally to him on that.

But Danny, I'm like, what the fuck.

Speaker 2: Dude, Wow, we have got to talk about Danny. This

guy can't. He's way more a mess than I actually expected.

And I know everybody's been saying it, but I really

I thought it was pretty bad. But I also felt

like I wasn't sticking my head in the sand. I

thought I was had my head up and was seeing clearly,

but I just did not realize how bad it actually is.

Speaker 3: So Janet blinders on I think a lot of us

because Janet.

Speaker 2: Shouldn't have been the spokesperson. Also, she's not even really pointing.

I mean, I guess she's pointing out dark side Danny. Yeah,

I guess so. But it has nothing to do with Nia, right,

And that's a the problem I have there.

Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's that's totally right. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah no, yeah no, no, no, yeah no no,

yeah no. Yeah. Nia is you know, she's so sweet

and she's doing the best she can, and it's like this,

it's like a it's almost like she married an asshole

and had a baby and he's a first time dad,

and he's like they're not even married, and he's like

just coming over for visitation. That's what it feels like,

because the way that he bitches and moans about holding

the baby when asked, helping when asked, being so flustered about,

you know, finding the baby's blanket or swaddle, it's like

he doesn't know what he's doing. How many? Isn't this

like their fourth child?

Speaker 3: Yes, four under fucking four? Danny want to trademark that shit,

And you're a cranky bitch.

Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a cranky bitch. You can't trademark four under four.

You're gonna That's why he's so pissed.

Speaker 3: That's why he's like, it's a lasso, not a rodeo rope.

Speaker 2: Oh my fuck god, down, Oh my god. When he

accused her of being performative, I was like, Oh, I'm sorry.

Is this coming from the same guy who pretended they

were a cowboy for forty five minutes of a forty

eight minute episode. Oh okay, who he is awful? He's awful.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I think also one of the

things that I was kind of giving him a second

chance on, even though I agreed with what Janet was saying,

and I hate to say that, but at the time,

I was like, look, he's not drinking, he's trying to

make these changes to not.

Speaker 2: Be this guy. Sure, yeah, we always want to give

people a second chance. The first chance, shit faced.

Speaker 3: I was so fucking nervous when that four loco entered

the condo.

Speaker 2: Oh. I was like, let's go, let's see what you

have going here. No, I want to see he's.

Speaker 3: Party up to Jack's.

Speaker 2: Yeah, oh crazy, lets you turn it. Yeah, it's I

know he's not Jack's, but.

Speaker 3: Kind of don't you remember at Big Sirt, wasn't it

at Sir when Jackson was in the kitchen bitching about

Brittany and they were all like, stop big Sir.

Speaker 2: Sorry, no, it was Big Bear, but I loved it.

It's big sir, Sir, but Big Sirt no, because you

know what, what's its vander Pump Rules and you're like, sir,

it's like big sexy Union restaurant is like where your

head went.

Speaker 3: That's what I was also thinking of, sir, like the

place in California. And then I combined, right.

Speaker 2: Yes, I know, I know it's perfect. I love that

it's big Surf, but anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 3: Yes, anyway, he was that it reminded me of that trip,

and I was like, I don't even think Danny is

meaning to do the Jacks thing, but.

Speaker 2: It just is part. It comes natural, it comes natural. Well,

I thought this guy, after going through the season, that

he went with this whole Janet thing. And now you

would think that he would get on when the second

they pick up cameras, that he would be like, hide

the alcohol, hide your wives, just hide the alcohol. Don't

let me drink. I'm not going to drink. And of

course Nia, don't let me drink because it's Nia's problem.

I'm sure, I'm sure he'll blame I'm sure he'll blame

her that she allowed him to drink.

Speaker 3: Right, Oh, the trigger mistrigger.

Speaker 2: Don't let her talk to me like that. Gross wow

wow yakay. So he you'd think he wouldn't drink in

this whole season. This guy's like all of another He's

not even like holding back to the bartender. He doesn't

just say I'll have a white claw. He says, yeah,

I'll have another white claw, letting all of us know

as an audience that this is not the first. And

he's just blatantly putting it all out there, and it's yeah,

it's troublesome.

Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also I think the most offensive thing was

that he made a big deal about not having any

rip jeans and then he shows up at Balboa Park

as a passive aggressive move, he's wearing those ripped jeans.

Did you touch that?

Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought he's That.

Speaker 3: Was the most offensive.

Speaker 2: It was the most effence of the montage of the

rip jeans were also offensive.

Speaker 3: Not necessary.

Speaker 2: No, wow, you know, when something works for someone and

it works, they're just still gonna learn it. And rip

jeans and alcohol. What he's like in the band Poison,

you know, No, he wishes Come on.

Speaker 3: He actually really probably does wish. I think that.

Speaker 2: So does my husband, So what are you gonna do?

But also, my husband's name is Brett Michael, like.

Speaker 3: Is his middle name Michael?

Speaker 2: Yes? Whoa, but that's isn't that Motley cru though?

Speaker 3: No, Brett Michaels is a singer of Poison.

Speaker 2: Oh it is Okay, Okay, so we were right.

Speaker 3: I'm just saying to grow up when your husband grew

up and have that name.

Speaker 2: He loves well, yeah, but he loves you know, rock and.

Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It would have been. It's so cool.

Speaker 2: I know. Yeah.

Speaker 3: Ps, can I say one thing really quick about my shoe?

Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I wish I could. I'm sorry. No, I

hate that. That's what Speaking of Brant, that's what he

does to me. That's his joke that he does all

the time, and he knows it drives me fucking crazy,

so and he's he's joking, but it's one of those

jokes that you do all the time and it gets annoying.

So then they know it annoys you, so they keep

doing it. So it's like, hey, honey, can you grab me?

Can you just fill up some ice for me? Because

I'm gonna And he's like, ah, I wish I could.

And he just milks it and it was funny like

the first few times. But then he'll do it like

when I'm not in the mood for a joke, and

then it's really annoying. So then now he knows that

it annoys me, so he'll do it. So anyway, we're

talking about other people's bad marriages, not mine. But that

is the worst part about my marriage is that fucking joke.

Speaker 3: Every rose has his thorn, get it.

Speaker 2: Rose has its thone has it down.

Speaker 3: Wow, He's like, we gotta stay on point, we gotta focus.

Now that's late breaking into poison.

Speaker 2: A Hey, I never said we can't break into song. Okay,

but anyway, yeah, he wants to.

Speaker 3: There was I was gonna say something about Michelle.

Speaker 2: Oh, that's right when I said you couldn't. Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3: This is gonna take two seconds because I don't know

if I had a chance to say this.

Speaker 1: You got.

Speaker 2: Guys, She's never gonna get this out, never gonna I'm

never gonna let her. Okay. Now I'm annoying myself. Okay,

you have the floor.

Speaker 3: What was I gonna say? I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I know.

Speaker 3: Okay, So this is gonna take two seconds. There is

a remember going around that doctor Dre Michelle are at

the Bruce Springsteen show in La.

Speaker 2: Yes, take your time, take your time.

Speaker 3: This is important and I just want to say, even

if you're I I don't know where I land on Michelle,

but I don't I don't despise her. I like her.

But that's all set where the VIP seats are in

the forum. For the way the Springsteen show is set up,

I guarantee you they did not leave. They just left

the seats because those seats suck, and they went to

the floor, or they went to the side of the

stage to watch her. They went someplace besides their seats.

So I'm just saying they didn't. They did not leave

a Springsteen show early, like the rumors are saying. Believe me,

because I we had a little chat going the drama

Darling thread and I started screen grabbing celebrities from from

their pictures to show you, guys, how bad those Yeah,

they didn't leave, really, they just went to a better.

Speaker 2: Air, better seat. And if you don't know, if you're

just tuning in for the first time and you're wondering, well,

Emily is a huge Bruce Springsteen fan, and she goes

to all the concerts, so she knows the layout, she

knows everything. She knows the way things move, the way

they work. And so take it, take this and and

smoke it. I don't know what that means. Just know

that they didn't leave. So don't you don't need to

judge Michelle or doctor Lee, doctor Dre for leaving a

Springsteen concert. I would think that that would be weird, Like.

Speaker 3: They probably just left their seats. Now, how if Now, guys,

if they left that show, I take it all back.

They are monsters, but just move from their chairs to

the floor or a better area. That's fine. I know that.

I'm sure that's what they did.

Speaker 2: We're positive of it. Yes, Golly, just watching this season

and knowing like now she's been hanging out with doctor

Drey in real time to think about what's coming is

just so good. Okay, yeah, all right, So we're going

to San Diego. Now, I have not taken the train

down there before, have you?

Speaker 3: I haven't.

Speaker 2: No, Okay, I want to. I love that they did.

Speaker 3: I love that they did. It's it's not the fastest

way to go, but it's it's pretty cool. I would

like to do it one time.

Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a good idea to do for like

a cast trip and so on and so forth. Well,

first of all, Nia is such a rock star for

bringing her baby down there, and same with Kristen, and

I just really felt probably more for Nia only because

she had to deal with Danny this whole time, being

at the Safari Park and being on that tour. It

was just like that was just a nightmare. I mean,

we all felt how awful that must be, Like it's hot,

the baby's hot. Your husband's not helping you are cooperating.

Speaker 3: He's not a husband, I mean he's he's just like

this emo pisson. He was dumb, ripped up jeans.

Speaker 2: And big and big ideas to like play characters in

video games. No, I'm kidding. I would love to get

one of those jobs. Don't get me wrong, No, but

like yeah, he's just he's rolling his eyes. He's like,

she's like, can you can you find something in the

bad that we can use as a fan? He's like

one Fanly, I'm like, oh my god, how do you

deal with this? How do you deal with that? I

there were so many times with him, the way he

spoke to her, I just thought, I don't really remember

being that triggered by jacks even, I mean honestly, like

probably because he was so far gone and so toxic

that maybe because Danny's teetering on more of like the

regular everyday asshole, maybe that's why it's more triggering.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. I think also because there's

not a world where you believe Jackson's love bombing, Like

I think, like you're just like this Jack's being nice

is not real, whereas Danny being nice feels real. Yeah,

and I would be I think I would be tricked

by Danny where I would never be tricked by Jacks.

Speaker 2: And for that I respect Jax Moore because he's showing

you who he is. I mean, this is where we are,

this is where I am. I'm sorry, I welcome him.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even Yeah, Danny is shocking me left

and right.

Speaker 2: Yeah, just that train ride and it's like he doesn't

hear her, he doesn't see her, he doesn't see the baby.

She's literally handing him the baby and he's like, I'm

going to get coffee. Yes, he was like mad that

she was eating a sandwich. Remember when she came out

to do the pageant. She's like, I had to put

the baby down, and he was annoyed about that. He

was also annoyed about having her do anything the baby

when she's breastfeeding.

Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I just come back to I don't

get him. I don't get where this is all coming from.

The anger is so weird. It's like a cranky that

I don't get.

Speaker 2: And he's very controlling. Andy is projecting. He is very

much he's controlling, and he keeps putting her down, and

he keeps trying to put her in her place.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed with Laala. I was so glad she

said something.

Speaker 2: Laala was so amazing in this last episode, the way

that she gave advice to Michelle on how to deal

with Lacey and how to deal with Jesse about like

Jesse is, he's miserable, he's bad, he's the other thing.

He has a girlfriend that doesn't even like him, he

doesn't have any money. If he's projecting on you, just

let him. And I thought, well, I mean she kind

of she shouldn't let him do anything. However, I got

her point. Let him just like, you know, get nuts

for his own sake and ignore him and live your life.

And while you're on a show, Yeah, let Jesse tire

her out, then get what you want and then for

her to you know, step in. When Lacey brought up

the window thing, pushing Jesse through the window, and La

La was like, no, that is not right. Stuck up

for her then and then later on that night actually

or maybe it was the next morning, saying like it

would be a good idea if you talked to her

and you know, establish boundaries. I mean like she was

on point with friendship and advice every at every turn

of this episode. And then the piece to resistance was

when she leveled Danny.

Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was coming from a very real place.

Speaker 1: Yeah.

Speaker 3: I have to also say, I'm kind of turning a

corner on Lacey in a good way. I'm liking her,

especially when I'm finding out that she didn't serve papers

to everybody. She did email and made an intimidating email

like she was about to do that, and so I

don't like that, But can you.

Speaker 2: Explain to me? I actually am a little confused about that.

So from what I from what I thought, what I

gathered is that she she threatened Michelle or did send

Michelle only Michelle a season desist? She said, I just

I spent money to get you to stop talking about me,

And Michelle said, but you only sent it to me,

you didn't send it to everybody else. Why I still

don't understand did she send her a season desist? And

then Lacey said, it's you didn't have to hire a lawyer,

So like.

Speaker 3: See, that's what I didn't like. That's what I don't like.

She sent her an email with that attached, and it

was a letter that was appeared to be a ceased

in desist, but it was not.

Speaker 2: Was it that a lawyer?

Speaker 3: Well that's what's confusing.

Speaker 2: Okay, So we don't have the answers. Now that's annoying, Okay.

Speaker 3: What I do know is that Michelle, I think in

the after show, says I didn't know it wasn't a

legit legal document that I had to deal with. So

I sent it to Jason of Jason and Janet because

he's a lawyer, to tell me what to do.

Speaker 2: Send your fake letters to Jason and Janet of Jason

and Janet law they're on a billboard.

Speaker 3: But like then, when Lacey said I had to spend money,

well then who did? You must have hired a lawyer

to at least draft it, like I didn't understand that

part of it. What was actually also confusing is I

was under the impression that she had also had a

letter served to Janet, and that seems to have never happened.

Speaker 2: M M. Yeah. So this is all we really need

the nuts and bolts because I feel the same way

as you. I'm actually back and forth with Lacey until

I understand what exactly happened with this cease and desist.

I can't exactly land on that issue, the fact that

she brought up you pushed Jess so flippantly in the

middle of an argument about the cease and desist. She

brought up pushing Jesse through a window. If you're willing

to just bring up something like that, that's a very

obviously a private argument that you were just willing to

throw out there on national television. As she made it

very clear national television that Michelle was talking about her.

Why would I ever trust that you'll ever do the

right thing. But when she talks, she makes a lot

of sense. In other situations, like when she was talking

to Janet, I was like, yes, serve Janet because I

was so annoyed. Yeah, And when Jesse was like, see,

that's the kind of apology that people why people hate you,

I was like, Bengo Mango.

Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the irony is. The one time I agreed with

Janet's apology was when she did it to Jesse and

she was like, I would cheat on you too if

you were in my husband. So I was like, actually, Jesse,

you got a good I stand with Janet on that

apology to you. However, Jesse, you are correct.

Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesse's correct in that Jesse can go back. He

can be a flip flopper in terms of like being

on the right side of history, you know, like he

was there for La La in this episode, and then

in other areas, it's like, why are you showing Lacey

texts from your estranged wife making fun of insulting your girlfriend?

Why would you show that to your girlfriend, your only

fan the flames? That's terrible.

Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean I actually feel like those texts

should never enter into evidence at all for either. I mean,

it's not going to court, but you know what I'm saying, like,

Lacy should absolutely not even clock those as who Michelle is.

I can't imagine how pissed off Michelle would be in

that moment, and Lacy.

Speaker 2: Knows that, but she's But here's the thing. First of all, Jesse,

can we just pin it on him? He should have

never shown those texts Lay totally. That's insane. Like that

to me is kind of like what, I don't even

know what kind of psychosis that is, because that means

you want drama, You're going to show look at what

my look at what my strange wife just said about you.

You're hurting your girlfriend. You're hurting her, and you're right,

and he also wants Michelle and Lacy to have a

good relationship, right, But then he goes and shows Lacey

those terrible text messages, which Michelle has every right to

say anything she wants about the new girlfriend. But here's

the trigger point for Lazy. She clearly cares a lot

about her appearance and how what she looks like, and

that's why she cannot let that go, and why she

brought up the shoving through the window thing because she's

got to like have paybacks, because she can't let that go.

She keeps saying to Michelle, but but you said this

about me, But you said this about me, And Michelle's like,

you're not getting it. Like I actually thought Michelle did

a great job by saying you it's not about you.

We had an agreement that we weren't gonna have anyone else,

like we weren't gonna, you know, introduce our daughter to

anybody else, and all of a sudden he shows up

with her in the car.

Speaker 3: That's fucked up, right, right, No, I that's what I'm Yeah,

I know that is crazy. Yeah, at the end of

the day. It does sit on Jesse for just manipulating

that whole situation.

Speaker 2: He's such a manipulator. And Lacey, even though they have

been to they've known each other for a really long time,

she's she's in for it. She's going to get lit

up by him at some point and then Mishel and

Lacy are going to be best friends.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Lacey's not. I think Lacey is going

to break up with Jesse probably before the reunion. You

think so, I mean it's like she doesn't like him

the way I think.

Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know what, we found out that she

did audition for the Orange for Orange County, and for

that she's in. She's not gonna leave.

Speaker 3: I don't think she's leaving the valley. I think she'll

leave just.

Speaker 2: That's she's Oh, I see what you mean. But she's

gotta Yeah, she's gonna have to stick it out with

him for at least two years in order to stay.

In order for us to be invested in her, we

can't just have her hanging around. She would just be

a girlfriend. True, true, But the auditioning for though, right, Yeah,

she's making good. It's really great. Triangular awful, triangular relationship

that we have going on here. It's so toxic. And

when Michelle yelled like Jasmine goes, just sign the divorce

papers and move on, and Michelle's like, divorce me, divorce me.

I was like, oh my god, this is some drama, Darling.

I was like, this is hot drama right here.

Speaker 3: That clip, yes, did that weird like mocking her? Which

I was like, oh that was that was like p corthy,

It was cringey. It was gross.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And he used the word performative too, yeah,

he did. I thought, you guys, you guys are the

ones with the problems. You see you see you gon't

you guys, Ye're the wand of the problem.

Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind it now, And I'm like really

thinking about it. I actually kind of like that the

guys are such assholes and it's not a Housewives shows

like a group of friends, because I like, I could

hang out with any of these gals. Yeah, and I

like all of them, with the exception of Janet, who

is an enigma to me because clearly people like her

and they hang out with her on the show, and

I'm just not kidding.

Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not seeing it.

Speaker 3: Yeah, but we need her on the show.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's the only villain. Well, no, I'm sorry.

I mean there was Jack's, yeah, the female villain. There

was Jack's, and there's Jesse, and there's Danny. Danny's really

taken up for Jesse from last season in Jack's Danny's

gonna like really bring up the rear for these two

other guys.

Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, Janet's not doing Jack shit

to him about it. He's doing it all by himself

right now. You know, like last year was Janet pushing

it to say, like everybody see it, And now it's like, Danny,

you're doing it all by yourself. Sorry, dude.

Speaker 2: Lala Lala standing there in that little sweatshirt and the shorts.

It's so great. She looks so cute. I was like,

she's like a cat.

Speaker 3: She just came in the doorway skin it off, then came.

Speaker 2: Back and then it's like Lala, Yeah, and she ate.

I really appreciated boy man. You know, she's always been sharp,

but then when you see her, you know, taking up

for another person in a moment that's so vulnerable, it's

like you're seeing a bully pick on the nerd at school. Yeah,

and then the cool kid comes in and tells him

what's for and that's what happened, and you just feel

so good. And I did appreciate that Nia did say

back to Danny when he's like, don't ever talk to

me like that again, and she's like, well, if you're

going to talk to me like that, then she can

talk to you however you want to talk however she

wants to talk to you. And I thought, Wow, good

for you. I mean, I don't know if that took

a lot for her to say, but you know, baby steps.

And I appreciated that. My god, when she said to

him at the end, like wow, I forgot about that

that real light lightning bolt end, when she was like,

if you speak to her like this, I wonder what

you say behind closed doors.

Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was good. Yeah, I mean I really do.

I want to not think that Danny is horrible still

because like I'm like, how did he land Nia? But

at the end of the day, he's horrible, And I

still I'm like, how the fuck did he land Nia?

Speaker 2: Well, he probably had, you know, he's got a lot

of like good characteristics that I'm sure he won her

over a long time ago. But then as time evolves,

and then your fun drinking becomes a problem, and then

you have all these kids and then your own issues

start to come up. I think that's just what happened, right,

I don't know, I'm no doctor. Wait. When he was

like yelling at her in that when they were getting

ready for the pageant, I was like, this is perfect, though,

like you're.

Speaker 3: Gonna win, gotta win, We're gonna win.

Speaker 1: Oh.

Speaker 3: I just kept saying that.

Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like.

Speaker 3: This isn't even form fitting. This dress is shapeless.

Speaker 2: No, it would. It could have been so funny if

he genuinely was like not drunk and like a little disappointed, like,

oh I need to this, this needs to be cinched.

It could have been so funny and fun. But he

was so dark about it, and him like really pushing her,

saying you're in charge, so be in charge. I was like,

oh my god, I I I would not trust myself

around him, Like if yeah talking to me like that,

I would lose my shit. I really really would.

Speaker 3: Yeah. Nia was really I think Nia was doing her

very very best for the cameras, just to be like

I'm gonna keep playing along, like we're playing along, but

I can only do this for so much time. I

was like, if Laala hadn't come in, I do think

that Nia would eventually quietly walked away and close the

door quietly. But that's all she would do, though, right

I mean on camera?

Speaker 2: Well, okay, so off camera, do you think that she

would like yell at him? Because I can't see it.

Speaker 3: I don't know. Nia had a hard life, so I

don't know if she like can I would think that

she's able to like stand up for herself, but who knows, Scott.

She probably doesn't have the energy to even fucking fight

right now with the baby and fuming and like.

Speaker 2: I had energy. Like, by the way, this show, at

least you know, currently is the best trail portrail of

like New Motherhood and Parenthood that we've seen on Bravo

and any other show that I've seen in a really

long time. I can't even really pinpoint any other show

right now because but like Secret Lives of Mormon wives,

who all they do is all they do is have

babies and dance, and like we've never I've never even

seen one of them breastfeed. I don't think, like I

don't even see.

Speaker 3: The babies adult diaper periods, were now about.

Speaker 2: Like about not having milk come out and seeing someone

else's milk scored across the table. How nobody told me

that postpartum was would be harder than actual pregnancy just

having a baby on like a field trip for the day.

How how inconvenient and what a hassle it would be

just to take a baby to a safari park and like,

you think it's going to be all cute, and like,

look at the giraffe. It's fucking hot and you can't

fan yourself and you can't there's nowhere to go, and

my husband's being an asshole. Like all of it's so

so real and so relatable and I absolutely love it.

Jasmine said something, I think it was Jasmine that said,

usually Nia and Danny try to keep their stuff like

pretty private, and it's like now because it was yact

because they were on the tour and she's like, and

now it's just they're bickering. Yeah, And I thought, yeah,

because this is this is the thing, like when you're

on reality television, you can't there's nowhere to hide. It's

just it's a matter of time before you actually see

the real thing. So two seasons in and this is

the third season, right.

Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, but the other part of that, yeah, season

three and Janet last season, remember she was bitching about that.

She's like Danny like there was a there was and

I think maybe Brittany too. There was comments about how

they don't show they act a certain way on camera

and it's different off camera, right, and now they're just

too tired, So wory.

Speaker 2: They're too tired yet. And also, this is what annoys

me about Janet is that she was pointing that out

a lot and it was really annoying. And I know

Brittany was doing that too, and that's what annoyed me about,

which Brittany never annoys me. But I didn't like this part,

this one moment that Brittany did. I didn't like it,

which is that she was pointing. She's like, I'm bleeding,

I'm bleeding here, I'll live my laugh Alba Bassa Jakes

and she's like wanting everybody else to be at that level,

and it's like they can't even come close. But I

also thought, you guys, you've been on reality television long enough,

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Speaker 3: Now that we're talking about, like the reality part of

it and everything. I am surprised that Sheena and Brock

aren't on it. They would have been such a better

fit for all of this than fucking Schwartz. Like Schwartz

just comes in and makes like has a girlfriend with

sunglasses and then makes weird sex jokes that we're all confused.

Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's like and then yeah, he's kind

of like the quirky neighbor. You know, he just kind

of comes over and leaves. He's just sort of like

a friend of that's I think we just need to

treat him like that. I don't mind him being there

just for that.

Speaker 3: But but like she's growing through some real shit, you know, that's.

Speaker 2: So she should I'm you know what for the sake

of like us appreciate, like loving Sheena for everything she's

done in the world of reality. It's probably best that

she and Brock are not on television because of him.

Speaker 3: Oh, it's absolutely best for her. I'm talking about me Amy.

I don't want to hear about his sex dream of Lalla.

I would like to see Sheena scream at Brock. Yeah,

I know, so unreasonable.

Speaker 2: You know what, you have a point, and it's not unreasonable,

thank you, But that is going to blow up at

some point, and it's and we're not going to be

able to see it. And now on their YouTube channel.

Speaker 3: Or Summer Moon's account, we're growing live on Summer Moon's account.

Speaker 2: That Sandobal unfollowed, Remember that he unfollowed Summer Moons. I

still didn't understand why Sheina was never on the Valley.

I feel like there was some major controversy and it's

like everything's broken there.

Speaker 3: I guess it was maybe around the book coming out

or something like that.

Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because Lala, Oh God, isn't it sad? Lala

and Sheina were so close and they're just they had

a huge falling out because of the book.

Speaker 3: Another reason I would like Sheena on the show.

Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she Nats was mad that Lala didn't like

post enough about that was one part of it, I remember.

Speaker 3: Right, and but Laala was offended by something in the book. Whatever. Anyway,

that's just my my request. Maybe switch Sheena in for shorts.

Speaker 2: That's how about. It's just how about Janet and Jason

switch that.

Speaker 3: I need Janet. I need Janet on the show, especially

if Sheena comes back in in my fan fiction's okay, Jason,

I just want to look at and literally, oh my god.

And he's the voice of reason and I like, you know, it's.

Speaker 2: Not really but because he's always backing up Janet and she's.

Speaker 3: Wrong, but like, okay, but I mean when he's in

a room with the guys, I yeah, I just want

to look at it.

Speaker 2: Yah, I know he's really cute. No, I agree, Keep Jason,

Keep Jason, bring on Gena. All right, we'll just recouple. Yeah,

like Love Island, We'll just do a recoupling. Okay. Well,

I'm just trying to see if there's anything else. La

La la la. Oh wait, how about the house When

they got to San Diego and they go to the

house and like looking, Jesse runs in there like Ramona Singer,

I'm like, bruh, get out.

Speaker 3: Lala was not having it.

Speaker 2: She that's right, she was firing on all cylinders this episode.

She stood up. She's like, she was like, I have

the energy or whatever, the stamina to like I got

energy today. I loved it because and I realized, oh,

it is Michelle's trip, Like what are you doing? Think?

I'm like Brett would never do something like that, like

take go and run for the best room. It's like,

you are so so narcissistic. And it's Michelle's trip. I

mean she organized it. What a douche. And he was serious.

He was serious.

Speaker 3: And Lava was serious too. She would have slept in

that tub. Oh sure, if if if they if Lacy

and Jesse had come in there and and been like,

we're staying here, Falla been like, great, I'm gonna put

a match. I'll put a bunch of I'll make this

the fucking what's up soul ties in the tub right here.

I'll so much bedding in here and some pillows and

I'm just gonna sleep here.

Speaker 2: Soult. Yes, oh my god, okay, oh yeah. Zach and

Janet they've like made up. But now Janet's like, I'm

planning your birthday and Zach's like step off, and Kristen's

like I'm mad, this is too much. So that's all.

That's whole thing's happening. Also, did you see a shout

out to Hollywood Toys and Costumes on Hollywood Boulevard.

Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I loved that.

Speaker 2: Love that. So Second City is like four doors down

from there or I'm sorry what used to be. Yeah,

but if you that place that they were in. Just

so you guys know, I have gotten probably like seventy

percent of my costumes for over the years. I don't

really do many videos anymore, but you know, for the

ten years that I did do it, you know, I

didn't get all my wigs there. There's a couple few

doors down that used to be a place called Hollywood Wigs,

and that's where I used to get all my stuff.

But I have gotten wigs there as well, and all

kinds of It's so great, it's great.

Speaker 3: I love that place.

Speaker 2: I would not bring my baby in there, I will say.

When she walked out when that stroller was on the

Hollywood Boulevard, I was like, oh God, get your baby

out of there. It's just so nasty. It's disgusting. No,

it's nasty. It's disgusting. Would Boulevards ever shine shine with

piss you? Yeah? Oh and Lazy has a problem with Janet,

which was fun That's what I think. Yeah, No, you're right.

I just wanted to say because that happened a long

time ago. But it was funny because she knew that

that was going to like get her in with that crowd. Yeah, like, oh, interesting,

that's a housewife move now.

Speaker 3: Oh and Janet and her little talk and Janet was like,

I was like, fuck you, Janet. When Janet was like,

you're upset because all I said was that you threatened

legal action. Side eye, side I, side eye. I was

just like, Janet, stop, yeah.

Speaker 2: And then she said I don't think it was exactly

like that, but sure if it came off offensive, I'm

to you, I'm I'm sorry. I just want to have

a good time and a good weekend. I was like, wow,

between her that statement and Danny on this episode, I

needed to take a jog. I was rebbed up. I

didn't though, but I needed to. You want to do

that now, okay, I'm be right back.

Speaker 3: Oh.

Speaker 2: When I did like that that, Lacey kept being like

Jesse can apologize, apologize for stepping into that, apologize for yelling,

and he's like, it's not my time yet, not right now.

Speaker 1: Sorry.

Speaker 3: But I think, yeah, I don't think Michelle and Jesse

worked the way Lacey and Jesse worked. That's why I

think like Lacey's gonna cut and run from Jesse, whereas

Michelle was just kind of like okay, okay for two

years and Lacey's was like fuck this. M I think.

Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I don't know. Wait. Also, when Lacey's like,

you know you did a search on me and you

said that I auditioned for The Real Housewife seven times,

I was like, okay, that's news to me. And then oh,

and then when she was talking about how you know

her if you do google her, it's like her whole

thing comes up Baywatch, cheating, lying like awful, and that

David Hasselhoff and his wife like.

Speaker 3: Blocked her well because they never said who from Baywatch?

And then yeah, I guess the wife was like, I

don't know who knows how that went down.

Speaker 2: So, but was that rumor? Was that true? Was she

dating someone from Baywatch? Because that's what Sheena on the

phone said.

Speaker 3: Well, all of this goes back to Sena. Yeah, that's

why I'm saying, like gets Sheena on the show.

Speaker 2: Hello, I'm just gonna make phone appearances.

Speaker 3: Yeah, not even video, like just not video calls, just

audio from Sina.

Speaker 2: Just audio, just straight up like speaker phone, maybe even

like on a like an answering machine, just old school.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 2: Hm, oh did you notice Lacy's Kathy Hilton hat?

Speaker 3: I have it in my notes.

Speaker 2: You do, Yeah, absolutely, it's really great. You a little bit.

Speaker 3: The bucket that weird lamp hat.

Speaker 2: Zach and Luke talk. Zach's like crying, he's a mess,

trying to give Luke, you know, some some basic like

new dad advice, and Luke just keep saying like he's

just not getting what he needs. And I was happy

that eventually Luke and Kristen did talk and he seems

to be doing a little bit better, Like when he

said to her when she wanted to go home, you know,

from dinner, and he's like, well, I mean, you know,

you're bodies just you know, responding you just had a

baby three months ago. And she's like, wait, what, like

are you saying that just because you're miked up. I was

like yes, Kristin, this is the bitch. We know, this

is the bitch. We know. Let's go. She's gonna question

like her baby day, like she's not gonna stop. She

will question when she needs to. She's gonna question, and

I love that about her.

Speaker 3: I will say I feel a little bit bad in

this set for Kristen because I do feel like this

is a pushing Luke away, like she is testing him. Now.

Luke definitely has said some wrong things and deserves to

be tested. But I do think that Kristen's going back

to something that I haven't seen from her in a

long time, where she's like pushing people away that are

trying and they're trying to figure out like how to

be close to her. So I think the whole counseling

thing is gonna be good. I hope that you're off camera.

Speaker 2: I can see what you're saying. I wouldn't have thought

that may be before, But when she did leave the

amusement park, I was kind of getting the vibe that

you're saying with Luke.

Speaker 3: I don't see with everybody.

Speaker 2: No no, no, Yeah. With Luke of course, yeah, But I'm

also like, I think, you know, she probably pushes harder

in that direction with him because he is just not

getting it. So it's almost like she's just got to

keep being like you don't even understand. Like the worst

place anyone would want to be when they are bleeding

out there, you know with a diaper on is a

fucking roller coaster park, right, Yeah, Like that is just

the worst. That's the worst. I would absolutely hate that

and I would want to leave immediately. And like the

whole postpartum thing, everything about it is just it's just awful,

which then gets me back to like nia with this

baby and Danny acting like that, It's like, guys, let's

just wrangle in ourselves for second and just consider what's

going on. But I do see what you're saying, like,

because we know Kristen so well, so it's like she's

kind of like picking up some of the little patterns

we had she had when she was younger, when she

was like we're seeing that in a different way. Yeah,

and like we don't want her to sabotage it or

make something bigger out of it, but I think she

would be the first person, I mean obviously we would

too to say, like everything she's feeling is so real

and it's not an excuse. Luke's just not getting it,

but it is a two way street at some point,

I agree.

Speaker 3: And it's also watching Luke versus Danny, and Luke does

come off better in that, and so then I'm like, well,

Luke's trying and Danny's an idiot. So, Kristin, did you

see what I just saw? Like, now, look how great

Luke looks compared to me.

Speaker 2: Yeah, when you compare it, yeah.

Speaker 3: But then you think about the shit that Luke says

that like, and he's like constantly trying to like have

sex with Kristen and she's like, are you fucking kidding

me right now? And that I am like, Luke, shut.

Speaker 2: Up, Yeah, shut up, buddy.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Speaker 2: And then the jokes about like oh that was Danny.

That was Danny's jokes when when she was in the

amusement park and she's like, oh, I'm so excited, like

I get to go on a roller coaster with you,

I'm so excited to do this with you, and he

was like, uh, what's wrong with you? God? That hurt me,

like my soul. For her, it was like it was

almost like, you know, an authoritative figure speaking to a

very excited child and just smacking them down. I thought

that that was maybe one of the more emotionally abusive moments.

I you know, I mean I do see it like that,

I really do.

Speaker 3: And he it has to talk to him like a

like a child and be like I am in the

moment now with you, and this is like it sounds

like like she has read a book about how to

talk and relate to your teen and she's going through

the steps to try and like talk to him. Yeah,

while he's having a moment.

Speaker 2: With about my demeanor again, like I'm just excited, like

this is the old man that's coming out. I'm just like,

she is never without kids. That's why he doesn't Maybe

he doesn't see her, like he doesn't see the side

of her because she's losing her fucking mind because she

doesn't have a child on her boob or in her

care and she's a inside space right and she's like,

oh my god, I need to go a roller acros her,

like she's freaking out, and he's just like, you know.

Speaker 3: I have I cannot wait for reunion because it's gonna

be really interesting to see Danny have to like stand

in all this and also Nia I it's not gonna

you know, she can't have his back on this. I

guess she'll say he got a bad at it, That's

what she'll say.

Speaker 2: I'm just worried, though, you know, I don't. I don't

want them to like get divorced with all these kids

and it'd be so complicated. But I do predict, and

this is a good prediction, you know. And my hope

really is that maybe after this season, and it might

be too soon, but soon and shortly, within the next

five years, he will hit a rock bottom and he

will get sober and he'll see the air of his

ways and then he'll be like charismatic, I'm a new man, Danny,

and that will be annoying too, but it won't be

as toxic. Yeah, that's that's our hurb. All right, Well,

I think that's it for the Valley. I mean, I

think we really covered it in episode six and seven

four under four you know.

Speaker 3: Six seven, We're so cool.

Speaker 2: We're so cool, really great season, you know, happy to

happy to see all the toxicity. God, it's terrible. What

does that say about us? Thank you so much for

listening to you, guys.

Speaker 3: Bye.

Speaker 1: Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling drama, Darling