Inside The OIG Interview: The Warden's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 12) (4/14/26)

Lamine N'Diaye, in his interview with the Office of the Inspector General, essentially tried to turn the Metropolitan Correctional Center into a scapegoat while positioning himself as a bystander to its failures. He leaned heavily on the narrative that the facility was already broken—staff shortages, overtime abuse, infrastructure decay—as if that somehow absolved him of responsibility rather than underscoring the urgency of his role. What stands out is not just what he admitted, but what he avoided: there is little evidence in his account of decisive leadership, no clear record of aggressive intervention, and no meaningful acknowledgment that the buck was supposed to stop with him. Instead, he described a system failing in slow motion while he remained at the helm, fully aware of the cracks but unwilling—or unable—to reinforce them before they gave way.

Even more troubling is how his interview reflects a pattern of deflection that mirrors broader institutional behavior in the wake of Jeffrey Epstein’s death. N’Diaye pointed to correctional officers missing rounds, falsifying logs, and working under extreme fatigue, but failed to explain why those conditions were tolerated under his command, especially after Epstein had already been flagged as a high-risk inmate following a prior incident. The responsibility didn’t disappear into the system—it sat squarely in his office, and his testimony reads less like accountability and more like damage control. The overall picture is not of a warden overwhelmed by circumstances, but of a leader who allowed a known crisis environment to persist unchecked, then attempted to retroactively frame it as inevitable once the worst-case scenario unfolded.



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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in

to the interview that the warden from MCC gave to

the OIG inspectors. Question, now, we're going to move on

because the warden agrees that there is not really reason

to really dig further because he agrees this clearly shows

that the counts were not conducted in the shoe from

a certain time. On question, do you want to ask

about the Fernandez key? The investigator responds, what about it?

The warden? Who's responsible? Question? So Fernandez? Oh? Can you

just sorry? Would you mind signing initially and just dating

if Fernandez was actually removed from the shoe and placed

onto our You know RA dry cell and R and

D dry cell, RNA, R and D are interchangeible, correct,

because RA for RA, I believe is what it shows

in the count slip. But it stands for R and D.

Right answer, I believe? Yeah. Question, So, if he's actually

moved there around the three pm on August ninth of

twenty nineteen, who would have been responsible for keying him

in and out of the shoe and placing him into

the ra So that the count would be accurately reflected.

Answer Shoe would have notified Control center that we're moving

one over to R and D. Question and by that

notification do they also say can you please keep him

out and into or is this just automatically done by control? Answer? Well,

the notification is made to control that inmates such and

such is being placed on dry cell and R and D,

and then you key the inmate to that area. Question sure, answer,

So I'll give you a quick background. It looks like

redacted witnessed this, and he wrote up the shot, and

he called the lieutenant, and he requested the lieutenant, And

it looks like he requested the lieutenant, but he never

notified control that an inmate was being moved right. Question Well, no, no, no, no, no,

I wouldn't. I wouldn't. He gets cut off again, but

by the warden this time. But then while the counts

are going on, there's somebody in R and D. So

whoever is sitting in R and D should have known

that I need to do a count slip because I

have an inmate down there. Hayes interjects, is this where

somebody disappears that we're looking for warden? Right? Question again,

I told you this was more of an administrative thing,

just to say, what does the warden you know, and

the boss of this place, what's his take on these matters?

Because as you have gathered, a lot of things went

wrong this day. So we need to figure out why

these things went wrong. Let me just make sure before

we move on that I got everything all right. So first,

before we get into the rounds, when a lieutenant conducts

a round in the shoe, are there required to conduct

a round of the inmates going up and down the

different tiers or does the round consist of just checking

in with the officers to make sure everything's okay? Answer? Well,

to check the officers to make sure that they're all right,

and you check the documentation, so you check, you know,

you edit. You would have to review the post orders

also to state what their duties are. I mean all

of us had different you know, I was a lieutenant,

so it was different things you did. But I always

checked the two ninety twos to make sure, you know,

the officers checked off, you know, if the person ate

or not any medical I would check to see if

medical came up, so it would not be a factor

and depend on what shift you went on you know,

the day shift. The inmates are up, so you're going

to you know, you can go around evening shift. You

can see what's going on the midnight shift they're sleeping,

but you're definitely checking a thirty minute log to see

if the inmates are doing their thirty minute checks and

you know, just documentation question now, as the wharton, did

you expect your lieutenants though, to go down range when

they were doing the lieutenant visits in the shoe their rounds?

And this is specifically when they're like signing off on

the different like as you can see, this is what

I'm going to be showing you. These are the round

sheets you sent to misredacted or mister adacted where it

shows the different lieutenants signed off on and what they

and they did their round. So what does that he

gets cut off by the warden. But what does what

the lieutenants are checking for his accuracy of the officers rounds? Question? Okay,

this is he gets cut off by the warden again.

So what they're checking is, okay, we're the thirty minute

in frequent checks done? Now if there isn't easy that

they are not being done, you know, so you know,

then it needs to be annotated and said, Okay, this

is what the issue is. But if they're signing it,

they're kind of acknowledging that, you know that the time

that the round will be put down, that they were done. Question, now,

what would be this is the round it looks like

for aight eight? Can you think of a reason why

these wouldn't be done but they would be signed off

on right here? Answer? Let me see. So if a

lieutenant made the rounds and saw this thing was empty

like this, then it's a problem question because you have

this eight eight and then there is zero rounds showing

that they were conducted, but this lieutenant signed it. Answer

that's a problem. Question that same thing. We go this

whole thing, so the whole shift looks like that. Then

they didn't even sign until here on eight eight? Answer?

Wait did you print these off the log book? Question?

This is what you sent to mister redacted? Answer right

question on Saturday, August tenth, at six twenty one pm. Answer, Now,

the only other thing I can think of, And when

I had gathered something I might have said, because the

checks are done at like no, these are thirty minute checks,

so they you know, these are this is I was

thinking of the log the log did it electronic? He

gets cut off by the investigator? We have the electronic version?

Answer yeah, this is he gets cut off again by

the investigator. Which one? So this is just wrong? Answer? Yeah,

it's wrong. Question. Should have this lieutenant sign that? Answer? No,

he should have signed it. They should have put something

listed as some discrepancy why the checks weren't done? Question?

And on these whereas it looks like this lieutenant signing,

it looks like probably because these are done. Do you

think that this is the reason why the individual hadn't

signed these because these weren't correct? Answer? Probably. I can't

speculate on that question because it says reviewed by morning

Watch lieutenant where they do that, Well, that lieutenant does

start signing it here where they now were filled out?

Answer right question for the same date. Answer. So this

looks like, hey, I don't know who it was, but

this looks like indiscernible worked it. Let me see how

those thirty minutes that's the same one. I don't know

who it was question? Okay, so that was indiscernible, certainly,

go look but whomever it was during those shift And

then we get into it looks like still here's eight

nine where it's signed off until two pm. Answer, that's

a problem. Question after that, no sign off, same thing,

And that's just when I think redacted left his shift

or somewhere around that time. So mister Hayes jumps in

once again. The point of this, if I may ask,

is we got a miscount right question? Where not we

moved on from the counts where in the rounds Hayes, Okay,

now counts. The significance of the count is at some

point Reyes disappears. Question No, The significance of the count

is that if inmates or if the staff members aren't

conducting counts, and counts are to the accountability of the

inmates to make sure everybody is there rounds or basically

to make sure everybody's alive and breathing. Is that correct, sir? Answer? Yeah,

you're right, counts or accountability, and then the thirty minute

checks are basically safety checks. Question. So the point of

the question is it looks like that we just finished

was counts and we have shown that the staff members

were not conducting their counts. Mister Hayes, right, because that

is why you have seventy two when it should be

seventy three. Question, Now we're doing the rounds to find

out if the staff members were doing the rounds. Hayes

got it. Question And again we have in this case

a very high profile inmate that was deceased, became deceased

at some point. And yeah, if they were not conducting

rounds at all, if they were conducting rounds, would that

be And that is the question to you, like we'll

ask you now since I'm making that explanation, if they

were conducting their rounds, would that be away at least

to try and help ensure that inmates such as Epstein

were alive. And well, I know it's not going to

prevent it in every case, but is that part of

the reason to make sure that if they are conducting

around you're checking to see if they're alive and they're breathing. Answer,

it's true, But I mean, and because I mean an

inmate Ken, you know, you can do your thirty minute

rounds and if they want to harm themselves, they're going

to do it. Question right, And that goes into play

with gets cut off by Hayes. They just look like

they do rounds by looking in the cell warden right, Hayes.

So if they want to do harm, you just wait

until they pass your cell answer by the warden, right,

and then you kind of figure out the timing of

the route. But the fact remains, if you're not showing

on the form that you did your rounds, then that's

a problem. Question. So, when you're looking at these rounds

that are sent to mister redacted, are you finding problems

because they're not completed correctly? You know what we just

look through In fact, you know these are August tenth indiscernible,

they're not signed off, there's blocks that are not filled out.

Answer yeah, looking at them now. Question right, Well, does

it show you that at least this paperwork doesn't appear

to be filled out correctly? Answer yes, question and that

is for the eighth as well. Answer right. So that

was mister Hayes again jumps in, and that is something

It was your job to pass that on to or

redacted the warden. No, he requested he gets cut off

by the investigator. No, no, no, this is just to

show that the rounds or the round sheets that the

warden sent to the regional director or these rounds. So

it's just a matter of hey, do you know if

these rounds were it has nothing to do with his

you know, if he did right or not. It's about

what the staff members are doing right, Hayes right. Question

And who was responsible to make sure that the round

sheets are done correctly? Answer? While the staff working up

there are responsible, and then the supervisor is supposed to

ensure that they're doing it. Question and what is this

this was also attached? What is this right here? What

are we looking at? Truce cope blogs? Answer? Yeah, this

looks like truscope. This looks like the log and so

like if they're doing what areas they search? Question? And

these are searches? Answer? Yeah, these look like searches. Question Okay, answer,

let me see that search. Did the areas visiting strip

room recreation? Yeah? These are the search areas. Question does

it show anywhere in there that there were cells that

were searched or that they were all like common areas? Answer? No,

they searched it. It looks like what is this nine

souths shoe complete at all? These look like everything that's

been done in there fire and safety checks? This is

it looks like the log? Question Okay, so this goes

with you? Answer? Uh huh. Question So all of this.

This is something else that we asked for the BOP

to print out for us, and this one specifically the

one we asked for. When you send us the cell

searches that were conducted on eight nine, twenty nineteen, we

got back one by mister Redaktid. It says it was

conducted at twelve thirty six pm on eight nine, twenty nineteen.

Is that a problem that only one cell search was

conducted in the shoe, acording to at least according to truscope. Answer,

because I believe the post orders state it was supposed

to be. And don't quote me on it. You have

to look at the post orders, but they state, I

think five a shift a minimum of five. Question. It's five,

I believe for the night watch. The day watch, I

believe is more, and the morning watch is just indiscernible.

Hayes searches answer by the warden. No, No, each shift

is a minimum of five. Question. I don't think that

includes the morning watch though, because there's common areas, Hayes,

you're supposed to do five cell shifts, five cell searches

per shift. Answer yeah, Hayes, all right, And in this

case there is only indication that they did one answer

one right, question one the whole day, answer one the

whole day, not per shift, the whole day. Hayes. Okay,

now whose job is it? He gets cut off by

the warden. No, Hayes picks back up to say, we

aren't doing those I was going to use the F word.

Why aren't you doing all those shifts? Question? Well, this

is this is my question to the warden. Is that

a problem that they were only logged into truth scope? Answer?

Uh huh, it's a problem. Question Does that indicate that

the cells were not being searched to you or that

they were just logging them in? Answer? And again, whoever

was working that day, you're going to have asked them?

I mean, looking at the paper, I mean it shows

you didn't you didn't conduct your searches. Question okay, answer

I mean, now there might have been a reason where

the person said, okay, the computers were down or whatever,

but it's highly unlikely. So yeah, Hayes, you throw over mattresses,

the whole thing. Warden. No, you pull them out, you

look at you look check stuff in the lockers, you

check under their stuff, you know, and typically do it

like on certain days when the guys are going out

to take a shower, you might go out and do

that question. So, with your suggestion that the computers could

be down and things like that, as you can see

from the email attachment that you said, there were certainly

plenty of searches that were entered in there, but there

is only one cell search. Answer right, question, and so

I would assume would that indicate that the computers are

actually up and running? Answer? Yeah, this one. This is

the same day. Yeah, this should be a ten, eight nine,

and eight ten. It shows the dates here, I just

can't see them. Worden yeah, change base. Yeah, this is

search one. This is the log question. Okay, so problematic

in your opinion? Answer yes, yes, it is. All right, folks.

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