The Virginia Roberts Deposition That Helped Expose Epstein And Maxwell (Part 11)

In her sworn deposition from 2016 (unsealed in 2020), Virginia Giuffre detailed how Ghislaine Maxwell recruited, groomed, and trafficked her into Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking operation starting when she was 16. She testified that Maxwell approached her at Mar-a-Lago in 2000 under the pretense of offering her work as a masseuse for a wealthy benefactor. That “job” quickly evolved into sexual abuse. According to Giuffre, Maxwell took an active role in teaching her how to sexually service Epstein, including hands-on “training” sessions involving Maxwell herself. She stated that Maxwell instructed her to recruit other underage girls and was fully aware — and involved — in the trafficking scheme. Maxwell not only facilitated the abuse, Giuffre claimed, but also participated in it, organizing flights, outfits, and sex schedules for Epstein and his associates.

Giuffre’s deposition also included accusations that she was trafficked to powerful men at Maxwell’s direction. She named Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, Jean-Luc Brunel, Bill Richardson, George Mitchell, and Glenn Dubin among the men she was forced to have sex with — often in Epstein’s residences or on his private jet, the “Lolita Express.” Giuffre detailed incidents of sexual abuse at Epstein’s private island (Little St. James), in Maxwell’s London townhouse, and at Epstein’s New York and Palm Beach homes. She described Maxwell’s role as operational: coordinating travel, preparing the girls, dictating what to wear (often schoolgirl outfits), and ensuring silence through emotional manipulation and threats. Giuffre testified that Maxwell told her to be “grateful” and warned her that speaking out would have consequences — including death. Throughout the deposition, Giuffre emphasized that she was a minor being trafficked across state and international lines, and that Maxwell was not only aware but orchestrating every detail. Her statements were corroborated years later by other victims and led to Maxwell’s 2021 conviction on sex trafficking and conspiracy charges.



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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

In this episode, we're gonna pick up where we left

off with the Virginia Roberts deposition. So let's just get

right back to it, shall we. Manager, Is it in

your handwriting? Virginia? Yes? Manager, all right? What did you

put down as your address at this time to mail

the passport two? It's about the second line, third line, Virginia,

number thirteen. Manager. Well, the third line says mail passport two.

What address did you put down, Virginia? Are we talking

about number thirteen? Permanent address? Do not list po box

or street? Manager, No, I'm talking about the third line

in the entire thing that says mail passport two, Virginia. Oh,

I'm sorry up here the redacted. Manager. All right, so

you asked to have the passport maild to you at

your parents address, right, Virginia. I don't know if it

was mailed to my parents' house, but that's the address

I sent put down, yes, Menager, okay. And if you

look a little bit further to the right, roughly equal

with that line, do you see a date that stamped

on there? Virginia. Yeah, January twelfth, two thousand and one. Menager. Okay.

And then if you go down a little bit further,

as you pointed out line number thirteen, you gave your

permanent address as your parents' address again, correct, Virginia correct, menager.

And if you look at box number twelve where it

asked for occupation, what did you write down? Virginia missus menager? Okay.

If you look at line number eighteen, have you ever

been issued a US passport before? What did you put down? Virginia? No, menager,

all right. And if you go down a little bit

further than that emergency contact, who did you put down?

Virginia redacted? Menager? Okay, So that the fiance you were

talking about earlier, Virginia, yes, menager. In January of two

thousand and one, were you still his fiance? Virginia? It

looks like it, yes, Menager. And what address did you

put down for redacted? Virginia. It's kind of hard to read.

I think that's redacted and redacted. I really can't make

out the telephone number. Menager. Okay, do you see relationship?

Can you read that? Virginia a friend? Menager? Okay? Do

you see just below that there's a line that says

twenty one, Virginia, do not stop. Sorry, do not sign

application until requested to do so by administrating an oath. Menager, okay, Virginia.

Applicant signature age thirteen or older. Menager. Oh, it's by

the signature line. Virginia. Yeah, menager, and that's your signature, Virginia. Yes, Menager,

all right. And this is the document that you recall

filling out for your first passport, Virginia. I don't recall

doing it, but yes, it's in my handwriting, and it's

got all of my information on it, Menager. Okay. And

online box twenty three, it's got your driver license checked off, right, Virginia,

July twenty third. Yeah. I really can't make out numbers

and stuff though, Menager, but the box driver's license is

checked off Virginia. Yes, Menager, okay. And then if you

look in the lower right hand corner of the page,

do you see what we call a bait stamp number.

I don't know if you know what that means, Virginia. No, Menager,

just the lower right hand corner of the document, Virginia

zero zero four seven two to one. Manager, Okay, thank

you so. At January two thousand and one, was redacted

living at redacteds, Virginia. Well, he would have had to

have been if I put it down there, Menager. Okay,

Was that the apartment that he had rented, Virginia. No,

it's in Royal Palm Beach. Thear he rented was in

Fort Lauderdale, So this could have been my apartment that

he lived at with me. Menager. Okay, So his apartment

where he lived with you was in Royal Palm Beach, Virginia, Yes, Menager,

and he rented that apartment to this Brad Edwards objects

a form and he says it's a mischaracterization of her testimony. Virginia.

He lived there with me for a short period. I

don't know how long he lived there with me for Menager.

And who rented the apartment Virginia? Well, Jeffrey paid for

the apartment. I was the occupant and he was an occupant. Menager.

Did you ever see the least Virginia? Yes, I believe

I had to sign paperwork saying that I was living there, Menager,

So you were living at is it redacted redacted? Virginia?

I can honestly read it. It looks like CAC but

that doesn't make sense. Menager. So January of two thousand

and one, you signed the document under oath putting redacted

and redacted Virginia. Yes, Manager, And you put your permanent

address and your mail your passport to at your parent's

address Virginia. Yes. Manager, is that right? And it's your position?

That is the apartment that Jeffrey paid for and you

signed the least Virginia. Yes, Jeffrey paid for it, and

I think I had to sign something that said I

was going to occupy it. I don't know if James

ever did. Manager, Okay, And you said at the apartment

from at least January two thousand and one until you

left in the fall of two thousand, right, Virginia. I

would say before then. Yes, Like I said, I can't

really tell you the exact date that I moved there.

But Manager, why did you have your passport sent to

your parent's house if you weren't living at your parents'

house Virginia. I don't know. I guess a fail safe.

I'm not too sure, Menager. When the next passport that

you got, Virginia, I think I had to reapply for one,

and well, this one expired in two thousand and two,

so I would have had to apply for another one. Manager.

I'm asking, do you remember when you got another passport? Virginia.

This expired January tenth, two thousand and two. Manager. Let

me have you put that paper down? Virginia. Yes, Manager.

Do you recall applying for another passport? Virginia? No? Manager, Okay,

do you ever recall applying for another passport ever? Virginia? Well? Yeah,

when I got to Australia, I had to. I don't

have it on me right now, but I could tell

you it's I had to apply for another one because

the other one ran out as expirey Manager, So whenever

one expired, you applied for another one from the US.

Virginia indicating manager. Have you ever gotten is that right? Virginia? Yeah? Manager?

Have you ever gotten a passport from Australia? Virginia and

Australian passport? Manager? Right, Virginia, No, Menager. Have you ever

lost a passport or had to get one replaced? Virginia?

I don't think so. When was the first time that

you came back from Australia Virginia October sixteenth, twenty thirteen. Manager.

And did you come back before that? Virginia? No, Manager,

did you ever tell Sharon Churchier or Sharon White or

Mary Anne Strong that you were going on a trip

to New York in twenty eleven, Virginia. No, Menager, is

it your contention that Glen Maxwell sexually trafficked you to

famous people? Virginia? If you have a document in front

of you that you could show me so I could

see what you're talking about, Yes, Manager, I'm asking you,

is it your contention that Glain Maxwell sexually trafficked you

to famous people? Virginia? Could you be more specific, like,

are we talking about rock stars or royalty or menager

politically connected and financially powerful people, Virginia, Yes, Menager, Okay,

to whom did Gallienne Maxwell sexually traffick you? Virginia? You

have to understand that Jeffrey and Golaine are joined hip

by hip? Okay, so they both trafficked me. Glaine brought

me in for the purpose of being trafficked. Jeffrey was

just as a part of it as she was. She

was just as a part of it as he was.

They trafficked me to many people, And to be honest,

there is people I can name, and then there's people

that are just a blur there was so much happening. Menager, Okay,

please name a person that Gallainne Maxwell directed you to

go have sex with. Virginia redacted? Manager? Okay, who else? Virginia.

As a whole, they both trafficked me to people. It

was under both of their direction, so it's not easy

just to say Golaine. When I say they, I mean

both of them. Menager, Okay, Well, I need you to

say a time when Glenn Maxwell directed you to go

have sex with another person. So can you please tell

me to whom glain Maxwell asked you to go have

sex with another person. Brad Edwards objects to this and

the objects to the form of the question. Virginia redacted manager?

Who else? Virginia. I'm going to continue to tell you

that they both directed me to do it. It was

part of my training. They both told me, you've got

tickets to go here, this is who you're meeting, and

this is what you're doing. So redacted is another one

manager Glen Maxwell directed you to go have sex with redacted.

Edwards objects again to the form of the question and

says that it's mischaracterized or testimony. Virginia. I'm trying to

tell you that they both did. Glaine and Jeffrey both

directed me. They both paid me, and they both directed me. Menainger,

All right, when it Galenn Maxwell direct you to go

have sex with redacted? Brad Edwards objects once again to

the form, same object, Virginia, I don't know the time.

I don't you know. I could tell you the place.

I don't know the time, Menager. What words did Glen

Maxwell use in talking to you and asking you to

go have sex with redacted? Virginia. We're sending you to

a gentleman. We want you to do exactly what you

do for Jeffrey to him keep him happy. I can't

remember her exact words, and I'm not going to put

words in my mouth to make it sound like what

she said, but it was all along those lines, Menager,

Those are the words that Glean Maxwell used to you,

directing you to go have sex with redacted. Edwards again

objects to the form and says it mischaracterized the testimony

Virginia along those lines, yes, Menager, Okay, where were you

located when she used those words with you? Virginia? It

could have been Palm Beach, it could have been New York. Manager,

you don't recall Virginia, I don't recall, menager. Okay, how

old were you when she used those words to you?

Again to this Brad Edwards, he objects and again objecting

to form Virginia, I don't know. I would think I

was seventeen, Menager, but you're not sure, Virginia. Well, it

was in the beginning, like after my training. Redacted were

the first two people I was sent out to menager. Okay, well,

I was asking about redacted and redacted. Okay, Virginia, Right,

that's what I'm saying. If you want me to go

categorically to tell you what happened and why I think

I was seventeen, because those were the two first people

I was sent to. Manager. So you don't actually recall

the conversation regarding redacted. You don't recall where you were, right, Virginia.

I can't picture if it was New York. I know

it was either New York or Palm Beach. I don't

remember exactly which one manager. You don't recall exactly what

words were used by Glene Maxwell speaking to you, correct, Virginia,

I remember the tone that she used, the type of

words that she used. I can't word for word replay

what was said, Manager, all right, and so when in

time was redacted Virginia redacted was months? Six months? I'm

not too sure, manager, six months. What Virginia before redacted?

I don't know. I think I met Prince Andrew in

two thousand and one, and Glenn Dubin and Stephen Kaufman were,

like I said, the first people I was sent out

to after my training, So I don't know. I'm not

going to give you an exact time if I don't know, Manager,

I asked you the relative order Virginia, and I'm trying

to give it to you, manager. And where does Alan

Dershowitz fit into that group of people Virginia same? I

can't tell you piece by piece who I know Glenn

Dubin was first manager, okay, Virginia. And I know Stephen

Kaufman was one of the first I was sent to.

Alan Dershwitz could have been in between there between, sorry,

between Glenn and Stephen. The first time I was with

Alan Dershowitz was in New York, so I was actually

sent to him. It actually happened at one of Jeffrey's residences.

So it's very hard for me to chronologically give you

each person individually. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up

this part here and in the next episode we'll pick

up where we left off. All of the information that

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