Nightcap Hour 2: Draymond Green RECRUITING PITCH to LeBron + Heat EYEING Russell Westbrook + Tim Hardaway Sr. TAKES ISSUE With Players Podcasts + Stefon Diggs CLAIMS He’s BEST WR #2
Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Draymond Green pitching LeBron to join Warriors, Heat looking to sign Russell Westbrook, Tim Hardaway Sr. takes issue with current player podcasts and Stefon Diggs
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0:00 - Draymond Green on his recruiting pitch to LeBron on their golfing trip22:20 - the Heat are an option to sign Russell Westbrook31:55 - Tim Hardaway Sr has an issue with players podcasting during the season40:49 - Hardaway also came at Tyler Herro for not being “all the way Heat”57:49 - Stefon Diggs says he’s the best WR2 in the NFL
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Speaker 1: Draymond Green spoke about recruiting pitch for Lebron James on
Speaker 1: the growthe Trip. Let's take a listen to what Drake
Speaker 1: and his recruiting pitch.
Speaker 2: Was and and and us being brothers, I'd be remiss
Speaker 2: if I don't take the opportunity to throw my pitch
Speaker 2: in there. You know, I'd be crazy if we're together
Speaker 2: for X amount of days and at no point, like, yo,
Speaker 2: we need to chop it up, like what the hell
Speaker 2: is going on? Was what we're doing?
Speaker 3: And so there's that.
Speaker 2: Of course I did that, And of course I'm the
Speaker 2: pitch was crazy, like since I think I'm pretty decent
Speaker 2: at it doesn't change anything, doesn't make anything happen. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: I hope.
Speaker 2: So with the things that I shared in it, I
Speaker 2: believe it definitely is gonna make the make the brain
Speaker 2: work a little bit, you know. If I don't, I
Speaker 2: don't think there's a decision that's been made, but say
Speaker 2: if there was, make you think twice about it, you know.
Speaker 4: And so that's that.
Speaker 1: Multiple and today, according to Front Office Sports, multiple Western
Speaker 1: Conference executives expect Lebron James will sign with the Warriors
Speaker 1: over the Cavaliers.
Speaker 4: Wow, Joe, who were saying that? Joe?
Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, I think I think I heard you uttered
Speaker 5: that or something.
Speaker 1: All things being equal, Joe, all things being equal, the
Speaker 1: Warriors make more sense than anybody, because what when Lebron
Speaker 1: James won championships?
Speaker 4: What did was he surrounded by shoots?
Speaker 1: Battier Rio, Mike Miller, Mike Miller, Kyle Korver j R.
Speaker 4: Smith, Guy that, Danny.
Speaker 1: Green, Calwell, Pope, Guys that can knock down open shots?
Speaker 1: Who could knock down better open shots than one? Stephan Wardell?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Wardell, Stephan Kurk.
Speaker 3: That's just one person.
Speaker 4: But let me tell you.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something about the heat. Uh here
Speaker 3: he go at Wiggins right, yeah, yeah, you know he's
Speaker 3: forty from three?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? Would you rather take what I tell you?
Speaker 2: What? You?
Speaker 4: Would you rather take Wiggins from three?
Speaker 3: Let me finish. Okay, we got Tim Hardaway Jr. Yeah,
Speaker 3: another shoot yeah, And we got young Bull.
Speaker 4: We got Damie Mitchell. Huh David Mitchell?
Speaker 3: Well no, he the point ain't he?
Speaker 4: Yeah? He can shoot though?
Speaker 6: I mean he Okay, we got somebody else coming though,
Speaker 6: You got coming home?
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all? Yo, Joe y'all listen to me, not when
Speaker 3: I'm talking.
Speaker 6: Now, you know, people be he he and ha ha
Speaker 6: thinking I'm lying and I've been right off all year long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, got about mean Joe, Oh Joe and Ojo. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, shooters, that's when he thrives at his best. He
Speaker 1: won't shooters around him because he knows the double team's
Speaker 1: gonna come. And guess what, the double team doesn't come
Speaker 1: because they're attached to those shooters. Now he can get
Speaker 1: downhill more freely. Kevin Love revapped his game to become
Speaker 1: what a shooter. People don't realize Kevin Love was twenty
Speaker 1: four and twelve every night.
Speaker 4: I don't think people realized just how great Kevin Love was.
Speaker 1: He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory with no
Speaker 1: championships in Minnesota, but he was twenty four and twelve.
Speaker 4: Every night Kevin Love was getting was getting thirty points
Speaker 4: and twenty rebounds every night. If Kevin Love was.
Speaker 1: Him, he reap revapped this game because he realized that
Speaker 1: was what's the best for the team.
Speaker 4: Very very very unselfish.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a great point on when he's surrounded
Speaker 5: by those shooters, it makesbody stay home and it opens
Speaker 5: up the floor for them to be able to operate
Speaker 5: and navigate and score make plays post up. And that's
Speaker 5: how you control the game, especially in the postseason when
Speaker 5: the game starts to slow down a little bit, Ojo,
Speaker 5: and you're like, look, boom, we gotta get some good.
Speaker 5: We had two three possessions dead possessions to where we
Speaker 5: hadn't got anything.
Speaker 4: Ship chat.
Speaker 5: You mean tell me, boy, you put him in there,
Speaker 5: boy Wardell on the same team.
Speaker 4: Huh Hey, y'all saw that. You saw it at the Olympics.
Speaker 4: Y'all saw it. I ain't gonna work for the Tobakers.
Speaker 4: You just say you see it?
Speaker 5: Okay, Hey, Ojo, I ain't gonna I ain't gonna leave
Speaker 5: y'all out because it's still a few teams. I like
Speaker 5: the scenarios I've been here, him obviously going to Miami.
Speaker 5: I just think it's kind of plug and play. Here
Speaker 5: here a look, good South Beach, great weather year round.
Speaker 5: I mean, damn, you can't beat that for real, for real,
Speaker 5: you know know what I mean. But the rumblins I've
Speaker 5: been hearing about trading for Kyrie, him going back to
Speaker 5: Cleveland with Kyrie.
Speaker 4: Hain't gonna lie. I kind of like that.
Speaker 1: I like, that's a whole different that's the whole different argument,
Speaker 1: because obviously him and Kyrie works better than him and
Speaker 1: James Harden.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just I like it.
Speaker 5: They sound good to me, Man, I want to see it.
Speaker 4: But how how.
Speaker 1: What's the probability? What's the likelihood of that happening?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, right now is rumblins, But hell, it's
Speaker 4: got to come from somewhere. Yeah, I'm rumbling to my stomach, growling.
Speaker 3: Out here.
Speaker 6: Hey, you have all these rumblings, You have all these
Speaker 6: these situations that people are speculating that can happen where
Speaker 6: nobody really knows.
Speaker 3: Nobody really knows outside of.
Speaker 6: Lebron, Rich Paul, you know their immediate circle where they know,
Speaker 6: yes for sure, and and and me.
Speaker 3: I already know how they're thinking. I know how Lebron is.
Speaker 6: He's mad, he's strategic. He's always two and three steps
Speaker 6: to hit everybody else. He has everybody waiting. How many
Speaker 6: more opportunities in life as a basketball player. Isn't gonna
Speaker 6: have these moments where he has the power.
Speaker 1: He has been one two years too, Huh, He got
Speaker 1: one to two years to play. He's not playing more
Speaker 1: than two years. Maybe this is his last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, look he doesn't have very many opportunities. Forty
Speaker 1: two and forty three year old as the second, the first, second,
Speaker 1: and third.
Speaker 4: Best player on the team.
Speaker 1: You don't normally win championship with those Has anybody ever look,
Speaker 1: Kareem was this old when he played be You gotta realize,
Speaker 1: Kareem back then, you didn't come out early. You played freshman,
Speaker 1: didn't get an opportunity to play. So Kareem came out
Speaker 1: of school he was already twenty one to twenty two.
Speaker 1: So by the time he plays twenty years, he's forty
Speaker 1: two years of age. That's the difference. Lebron comes out
Speaker 1: of straight out of high school. He's eighteen. He turns
Speaker 1: nineteen in December, but he's eighteen, So that's why he
Speaker 1: plays twenty four at forty two. Kareem played twenty years
Speaker 1: at forty two. But likelihood of those guys playing that
Speaker 1: length of time is not very likely. And Kareem was
Speaker 1: Finals MVP in nineteen eighty five. Like I said, Kareem
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit. Y'all need to go look at
Speaker 1: kareem numbers in the eighty Championship Magic one Finals, MVP,
Speaker 1: but look at Kareem numbers.
Speaker 4: Go look at Kareem numbers. I don't I need y'all
Speaker 4: to see Kareem number. Y'all like, hold on and you're problem,
Speaker 4: say with damn Magic one Finals MVT.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of that forty two to fifteen to seven
Speaker 1: games that had. In game six where he played all
Speaker 1: five positions, he jumped center. Go back and look at
Speaker 1: Kareem numbers. Chat Jumian favor. Go look at Kareem numbers
Speaker 1: in the finals, the finals in nineteen eighty against the sixers,
Speaker 1: and you tell me the guy that puts up those
Speaker 1: numbers right now, that wouldn't be finals MVP. Go look
Speaker 1: at it at eighty five because they lost the first game,
Speaker 1: they got blown out. They said, career, it's over for Kareem.
Speaker 1: He's slow, he owed. Boston one forty eighteen is known
Speaker 1: as the Memorial Day Massacre. Kareema Finals MVP. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you can say what you want.
Speaker 5: I know we talked to Rich yesterday and he said
Speaker 5: that they were in uncharted waters, meaning you know, he
Speaker 5: was saying, how it's still a blessing that Lebron still
Speaker 5: has a chance to kind of pick and choose where
Speaker 5: he can and can't go or where he can go. So,
Speaker 5: uh man, listen, I think Lebron is gonna be fueled
Speaker 5: by this uncle Ojo considering the fact that he's gonna
Speaker 5: go somewhere where he at least has a damn chance
Speaker 5: to win a title.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying if he don't win a title,
Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's a it's a bus season.
Speaker 5: But I know he definitely wants to compete for one.
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, Joe. I give you a
Speaker 4: prime example.
Speaker 1: Everybody talking about don't nobody won't you do realize that
Speaker 1: when Tom Brady was a free agent, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of teams that said no, Ojo. People don't realize that,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of teams that said no.
Speaker 1: So at that question and they said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: nobody wants Lebron the Thunder don't want him. So why
Speaker 1: didn't Why didn't Care? Why didn't Why didn't Kansas City?
Speaker 1: Why didn't Why didn't Buffalo? Why did any other team
Speaker 1: with top five quarterbacks? So you said, okayc don't want him.
Speaker 1: Look what okay, see got you said, san Antonio don't
Speaker 1: want him, you said, you say all these teams, but
Speaker 1: Tom Brady went through the exact same thing. Tom Brady strategically,
Speaker 1: he went to a team that what did they have
Speaker 1: on yo? They had two guys that had just come off.
Speaker 3: The Pro Bowl defense and hell of they got.
Speaker 1: An outstanding defense and two wide receivers that just came
Speaker 1: off the Pro Bowl that were that was starting to
Speaker 1: get into their prime.
Speaker 3: They had one piece missing too. The quarterback before that
Speaker 3: season was the Jamis thirty and thirty.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, thirty and thirty. Jamis threw for
Speaker 1: three for five thousand yards. All he had to do
Speaker 1: was not turn the ball over. They knew if they
Speaker 1: got somebody that could take care of the football, they
Speaker 1: had a team that could get to and win the
Speaker 1: su And that's what tom Brady brought him. Besides the
Speaker 1: credibility factor, he brought the he brought the ability to
Speaker 1: take care of the football. It's hard to win a
Speaker 1: championship when you turn the football over. I don't give
Speaker 1: a damn how good you are offensively or how good
Speaker 1: you are defensively.
Speaker 4: You turn that ball over, you get your ass beat.
Speaker 3: Every time.
Speaker 4: It's the same thing, Joe san Antonio.
Speaker 1: What cost them games turnovers Lake in games, that's what
Speaker 1: cost them the costly turnover. You got the ball, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're up one, and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: pass the ball and what you call him and Castle's
Speaker 1: not looking, they get the ball, you foul a Brunson.
Speaker 4: You turn the ball over. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: But the mere fact it's hard for me to look.
Speaker 1: Do I believe there's some team that would take Lebron
Speaker 1: just to sell tickets?
Speaker 4: Yes, but he.
Speaker 1: Knows that's the only reason you don't want to At
Speaker 1: this point, you'll get at this point, Laren James have
Speaker 1: been playing for championships probably since some about year five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so now here I am going.
Speaker 1: To for the last nineteen years based for the last
Speaker 1: eighteen years, I've been playing for a championship. Now you
Speaker 1: want this to be my last year or one of
Speaker 1: my last year and you say, you know what, don't
Speaker 1: worry about the championship.
Speaker 4: Make it makes sense.
Speaker 1: You think Tom Brady was gonna go somewhere that didn't
Speaker 1: give him a chance the championship. The same thing with
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. There are a lot of teams that didn't
Speaker 1: want Payton. They got the hold on the bro You
Speaker 1: you coming off this serious injury. You missed the last year.
Speaker 1: Peyton couldn't throw them all ten yards we didn't want.
Speaker 1: He thrown them about ten yards. Ask me, damnure. But
Speaker 1: guess what he went to Denver. Guess what Denver had
Speaker 1: O Joe at our standing defense and young one receivers,
Speaker 1: crazy ja Marius Thomas, rest your soul, Julius Thomas tight end.
Speaker 1: They had Eric Decker wide receiver. They had Brandon Stokely
Speaker 1: slot machine. They had no Sean Marino running back. They
Speaker 1: get fast cass they had an office. They have Ryan
Speaker 1: Clayton offensive tackle, one of the best tackles coming off
Speaker 1: in jury, one of the best tackles in the game.
Speaker 1: And then you have a young Von Miller. And then
Speaker 1: John just started putting pieces. Now he goes out and
Speaker 1: get a key. They drafted Brandley Roby, They get tj
Speaker 1: You know what he dallall say, Man, we don't need
Speaker 1: you no more. DeMarcus brons John said, we need you.
Speaker 1: Come on over here. Now you got DeMarcus on one side,
Speaker 1: you got.
Speaker 4: Vaughn on the other side.
Speaker 1: You draft Maliite Jackson, You draft d Wolf, You got
Speaker 1: Travade thought in Marshall.
Speaker 4: Okay, oh boy lord Nelly, you guys got a quarterback.
Speaker 1: We don't need much. Yeah, we don't need much. At Look,
Speaker 1: there is no guarantee. Look you see guys late in
Speaker 1: their career. You look at I mean Peyton came one
Speaker 1: year he let the league in touchdown pass the next
Speaker 1: year leading the league touchdown passes, was an MVP. Peyton,
Speaker 1: Tom Goes first year there, win the Super Bowl. Out
Speaker 1: in the box, throws for five thousand, one of the
Speaker 1: three or four best pass the game, most fourth or
Speaker 1: fifth most passing yards in NFL history. Ain't no guarantee.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to go out on top. Man, It ain't
Speaker 1: no guarantee. Ain't no guarantee. Everybody want a Michael straight hand.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants a John Elway. Everybody wants a Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants the Jerome Betters Jerome Bettles. Last game was
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Where's Jerome Betts from? They parked the bus.
Speaker 1: They parked the bus in the garage. Okay, you're home,
Speaker 1: my son, Get off. It don't work like that. For
Speaker 1: every story that you got a straight hand or lay
Speaker 1: A Peyton or Jerome Bettters by the time. And look
Speaker 1: that's Hollywood. See Hollywood, you can control it because you
Speaker 1: can write a script that has happen. Ever after'll be
Speaker 1: in not in pro sports, not in pro sports.
Speaker 5: But I do think I think brun he'll definitely get
Speaker 5: to go out on his own terms. Okay, Joe, even
Speaker 5: though you know he's playing up in his forties, he
Speaker 5: won't be He won't be a guy who will be
Speaker 5: sitting around, you know, trying to see if he's gonna
Speaker 5: be able to play his last somebody years.
Speaker 4: He probably gonna play another He probably gonna play two
Speaker 4: more years. I give him two more years.
Speaker 5: You give him twenty four, twenty five, Yeah, I give
Speaker 5: him to twenty five.
Speaker 1: Well, he ain't got no choice but to play for minimum.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't. I know he's valuable, but
Speaker 1: I can't play a forty two you. I just can't, Joe.
Speaker 1: I can't pay a forty two year old forty million,
Speaker 1: fifty million.
Speaker 4: That's and that's what's gonna that's what's gonna drive him
Speaker 4: the greatness again, you know what I mean? Because he
Speaker 4: knows and understands he's against all odds. He know everybody
Speaker 4: is count on them mouth you know what I'm saying
Speaker 4: like this, He's still.
Speaker 5: I think that's probably, uh, one of the most interesting
Speaker 5: things about him, because that he stays motivated throughout this
Speaker 5: whole entire career. Bro, he's over he's over exceeded expectations,
Speaker 5: and he's still it. Man, got all the points in
Speaker 5: the damn world, and he's still out here, you know,
Speaker 5: just adding to it. Like for me, for a guy
Speaker 5: to continue to go that long, Bro, you have to
Speaker 5: love and enjoy what you do. You have to love
Speaker 5: the game and you love Look.
Speaker 1: At Tom, He's still He never forgot I'm a sixth
Speaker 1: round draft pick. All these quarterbacks, the spurgeon wins and
Speaker 1: the and all these guys that they took before me.
Speaker 4: The bro, how could y'all do that? So I'm gonna
Speaker 4: make y'all pay.
Speaker 1: He still felt even after the Super Bowls, he still
Speaker 1: felt that he didn't get the credit and the respect
Speaker 1: that he deserved. So guess what, I'm gonna keep playing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep playing. I'm gonna keep playing, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna beat you. Lebron came in hyped. I think it's
Speaker 1: harder for what Lebron did look and but I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm not saying when I'm just saying the career because
Speaker 1: when you come in as a sixth round draft pick,
Speaker 1: O Joe, there ain't no expectations.
Speaker 4: Basically, you a camp body. You there.
Speaker 1: So the starting quarterbacks, the first and second street quarterback,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, don't throw out their arms. That's why they
Speaker 1: got you there. That's what your job is, Joe, Ojo Joe.
Speaker 1: So the student started, the guy that you're going into
Speaker 1: the season with. They don't blow out their arms, so
Speaker 1: we need That's why they bring five six quarterbacks in there,
Speaker 1: so your quarterbacks don't throw out their arms. When you're
Speaker 1: the number one overall draft pick and you're on the
Speaker 1: cover of Sports Illustrated as a seventeen year old and
Speaker 1: they got chosen one, It's like Gretzky when they called
Speaker 1: him the Great One.
Speaker 4: Do you know how much pressure when they call you
Speaker 4: the great one? A and the one?
Speaker 1: When they comet they say this man, now he's a
Speaker 1: third rapper, but they doesn't start giving the man's why
Speaker 1: Air Jordan. Now, all of a sudden, you got one
Speaker 1: name Kobe Mike Shot Bron step kdi got initials Manny
Speaker 1: Brady bro to that level. Huh oh cho, yeah, that.
Speaker 6: The five he had a five gone, what hey, what's
Speaker 6: your Your ladies call you Chad, don't.
Speaker 3: They you know? You know what, what's funny?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: She said Chad on every everywhere I go, everybody say,
Speaker 6: oh Joe. They don't even say the five. I ain't
Speaker 6: heard Chad from nobody else in a very long time.
Speaker 1: I know, just your lady called cha Chad.
Speaker 3: Even my kids, my kids, they say, oh Joe, your
Speaker 3: kids call you. Yeah, they either say dad or here.
Speaker 4: Hell no, my kids, hey.
Speaker 3: They say dad. When they could ask.
Speaker 4: For money, Oh yeah, daddy, Daddy, daddy, daddy.
Speaker 3: Regular conversation, they say, oh Joe.
Speaker 4: My two younger kids called me dad. My oldest called
Speaker 4: me daddy.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey hey yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: They've been not calling me by my damn name. That
Speaker 4: was different respect when I was coming up.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but you cooking. But I have some I
Speaker 1: have some some cousins that called their parents by their
Speaker 1: first name. I don't know, sir man, my grab my grandfather,
Speaker 1: but my grand boy. I couldn't imagine calling my mama Mary.
Speaker 1: Oh no, nah, I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine called
Speaker 1: him by bad.
Speaker 4: Please. Nah, my kid called me daddy.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not no, no, no, no, no, no no no, that is
Speaker 1: very no. No, sir, that's a whole different. You couldn't
Speaker 1: be disrespectful to your parents in front of all the
Speaker 1: other older elderly people. They would check you if your
Speaker 1: parents didn't. Yeah, but hey, as y'all heard my brother
Speaker 1: talk that what BARTI porter wasn't going for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hey man, that dude would have hurt somebody.
Speaker 5: Hey, o Joe, yo, I'm daddy. All my kids can hear.
Speaker 5: They always want something. Hey, my little fo yo, he
Speaker 5: coming that here? Hey, daddy, can you give me some
Speaker 5: more roadblocks?
Speaker 4: My goodness, Oh Joe, he made me play it with
Speaker 4: him too, bro.
Speaker 6: Hey man, the French fry, the French fry, roadblocks.
Speaker 3: Yah man, boy, listen, Hey, she didn't. She ain't make
Speaker 3: me play.
Speaker 6: With her because she got so many sisters that can
Speaker 6: play well a roadblocks.
Speaker 3: I don't ain't no telling how much I have to
Speaker 3: spend on roadblocks.
Speaker 5: Man, Oto, my grown ass, I'll be playing roadblocks. I
Speaker 5: had my microphone on one day, and you know it
Speaker 5: ain't nothing but a little bit of kids five, six,
Speaker 5: seven years old, and they can hear me talking.
Speaker 4: They was like, oh, a grown man is in here.
Speaker 4: I'm like I forgot hey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my little one boy he gonna make me cause
Speaker 5: he say, dad, where's your iPad?
Speaker 4: Come on? Join me, join me?
Speaker 1: Join Hey, if you want to make a lot of money,
Speaker 1: find something that kids like, because guess what if the
Speaker 1: kids like it, guess what the parents got to do?
Speaker 1: Take them or buy it for them normally like a
Speaker 1: like an animation. That's what animation do, so do so well.
Speaker 4: So now all the kids going what the parents got
Speaker 4: to go with them? Yeah? Because they got the damn
Speaker 4: The new Minions just came out. Man, Hell, we got.
Speaker 6: Your It came out July first Man, Minion's Toy Story.
Speaker 4: Uh what the Rock Movie? Uh? Uh? The Rock Movie
Speaker 4: is out?
Speaker 6: Oh man, I'm some good days, Broy.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't change it.
Speaker 1: For the ma wanna yes wana the Rock Movie.
Speaker 3: They got a new one.
Speaker 1: Yes, Hey, man, I love some animation. I used to
Speaker 1: be animation by myself.
Speaker 4: He a on me too. That's why I don't mind going. Hell,
Speaker 4: I can't wait, Hey.
Speaker 1: I go sit there, I'll be I'll be in there
Speaker 1: by myself. I going like at two o'clock on a Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, because you had you gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: You and a big grown ass man sits in the
Speaker 1: movie with a bunch of kids. People think you are pard.
Speaker 1: I go with the little badass in school because they're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking.
Speaker 4: The whole time. Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta watch
Speaker 4: the movie. You gotta watch the movie. The kids are
Speaker 4: they damn that movie? What they freezing? They ain't thinking
Speaker 4: about that damn movie whenever?
Speaker 6: Whenever Shrek come out, Joe, Yeah, talk about the first Shrek,
Speaker 6: the second and third. I'm first winning line. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: first winning line.
Speaker 4: They need to do a donkey. They did to pushing Boots.
Speaker 4: They need to do a donkey.
Speaker 3: Pussing Boots was funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, donkey.
Speaker 1: And tell me what Bendarris, Yes, Lord Farquah man, they thought.
Speaker 4: I thought Lord Farquah was tall. In hell, he hopped
Speaker 4: off that horse.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: According to Stefan Bondi the heat or an option to
Speaker 1: sign Russell Westbrook, but only if Lebron justin to come
Speaker 1: to Miami. O Joe, do you feel how do you
Speaker 1: feel about Russ being your second option if you don't
Speaker 1: sign Bron Braun.
Speaker 6: I mean, listen, Russell Westbrook as a spark probably I'm
Speaker 6: assuming coming off the bench would be greatest energy. Obviously,
Speaker 6: it's infectious, it would it would be good for the
Speaker 6: heat culture. He exemplifies. It's just what that coach is
Speaker 6: all about. Working hard, playing hard, putting your putting your
Speaker 6: hard hat, putting your construction head on.
Speaker 3: And going at it every day and giving it everything
Speaker 3: you have. He has that.
Speaker 6: That is someone that he that that he's always been,
Speaker 6: and he was fit well in that culture.
Speaker 5: I love Westbrook's work ethic uncle Ojo. I just don't know, honestly,
Speaker 5: because if Brin don't go there, then you're gonna get
Speaker 5: a whole heavy dose of Yanni's handling the basketball with
Speaker 5: Bam yep.
Speaker 4: And I just don't see.
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, I think Westbrook could fit because he
Speaker 5: plays hard, he takes the game serious. He's a Hall
Speaker 5: of Famer. I mean, he a hell of a player.
Speaker 5: But playing off ball is the biggest thing that concerns me.
Speaker 4: Man. I'll be honest with you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I know he gonna play the right way. He's gonna
Speaker 5: be a high sis guy, He's gonna take care of
Speaker 5: the ball. Uh, But I don't think I think you
Speaker 5: know how it is like some guys playing with Bron
Speaker 5: is tough for them to play with Broun. I think
Speaker 5: that's the same way with Janni's. I think it's gonna
Speaker 5: be I think it's some challenges that damn up. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying. I think it's some challenges it's
Speaker 5: gonna come with playing with Janni's too, And it ain't
Speaker 5: gonna be as easy and smooth transition if you ain't
Speaker 5: no good catching shoot guy.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I know Westbrook can make a damn shot, but they
Speaker 5: ain't his forete. His forte is having that ball, getting
Speaker 5: down here, running pick and roll, making plays, and I
Speaker 5: don't I don't know what that's gonna look like.
Speaker 4: I agree, Joe.
Speaker 1: That's why Kyle Korver had success, Mike Miller had success,
Speaker 1: Ray Allen had success. So you look at Ray Allen
Speaker 1: as Ray Allen, Ray Allen as a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: whether he played with Lebron or not. But at that point,
Speaker 1: at that point of his career, he was more of
Speaker 1: a shooter. Ray used to handle the ball when he
Speaker 1: was in Milwaukee, when he was in Seattle, y'all wanna
Speaker 1: go back and check Ray stats, y'all look at him
Speaker 1: and talking about, oh, just what he did.
Speaker 4: Ray played both ends of the court. Ray Allen was
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 5: He Ray was in their classic ninety six draft class
Speaker 5: with Ai Steph from Marberi and Cob and all those guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He uh, he is one of those guys I enjoyed
Speaker 5: watching coming up as a youngster bro and then competing
Speaker 5: against him un and o Jo, I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: I competed against him when.
Speaker 5: He was in Milwaukee, when he was cold blooded, but
Speaker 5: when he got in Seattle, and uh, when I was
Speaker 5: in Phoenix and we were the number one team that year,
Speaker 5: they were the number two team in the West. A yeah,
Speaker 5: Ray averaging twenty six twenty seven night. I'm talking about
Speaker 5: getting good money every night. Ojo, you knew what you
Speaker 5: were gonna get from him, right?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, No, Ray was that boy. Nah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's sometimes, Joe. Sometimes a lot of people
Speaker 1: see the tail end or somebody's career, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing with Barkley. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people look at Barkley like, man, he
Speaker 1: all at fourteen points and level. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, y'all better go back and look at
Speaker 1: Barkie barkley career with he was in phillyp.
Speaker 3: With he was in Phoenix, in Phoenix, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Go back, look at his career now, Barklay's like twenty
Speaker 1: two and eleven at six four. There'll never be another
Speaker 1: six to four guy lead the league in rebounding ever. Ever,
Speaker 1: And I don't like saying ever because that, but there'll
Speaker 1: never be another six to four think about it. That's
Speaker 1: he the height of ad Man, and he led the
Speaker 1: league in rebounding when they had a king, they had
Speaker 1: they had big bigs because you know what, Kareem shot.
Speaker 1: Not Kareem, I mean your Kareem Patrick Ewan, Keem Elijah won.
Speaker 1: They had big you know back then in the eighties, Joe,
Speaker 1: everybody had bigs, big big bigs.
Speaker 4: McHale Parrish, everybody had those guys.
Speaker 5: Ay, but the difference is it's not only the talent,
Speaker 5: but it was the way Barkley approached the game. Again,
Speaker 5: O Joe, like he didn't give a damn bro like that,
Speaker 5: man were trying to you know what, I mean, just
Speaker 5: ain't he ain't had no love for you. You know
Speaker 5: when you got out there, bro, Like he wanted to
Speaker 5: he was gonna compete at the highest level and he
Speaker 5: wanted to win. He wanted to dominate, and he wanted
Speaker 5: to do it in dramatic fashion.
Speaker 4: Bro, you ain't gonna see that no more. And the
Speaker 4: game has changed.
Speaker 5: You can see no damn six four six five dude
Speaker 5: dominating up under the goal like that.
Speaker 4: Hell. Zion probably be the closest thing to that. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: How tall is Zion?
Speaker 1: Like Barkley, They got Barklay Lizzard at six six, Barcolay
Speaker 1: do Dean six to six, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Ziam probably about jam about sixty six though, Yeah he's
Speaker 5: six six.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a doll. Yeah, but he was a
Speaker 1: Barkler was Barkley was an animal. And you gotta think
Speaker 1: about look at what he's competing against.
Speaker 4: He playing at real big boy, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: Big I'm talking about big bigs. I mean he going
Speaker 1: up against See Webb, he going up against I mean
Speaker 1: real power for Kevin McHale, Calm malone six eight sixteen,
Speaker 1: big boys. Yeah, everybody everybody played four and five back then,
Speaker 1: O Joe, everybody played the four and the five. It
Speaker 1: wasn't no stretch this and small, wasn't no lineup of death.
Speaker 1: Everybody had a big And when you take one big out,
Speaker 1: you brought another one big in. You took your hands out,
Speaker 1: you brought another big in. Just keep coming big big,
Speaker 1: you play big with a bigger. Barker was an anable
Speaker 1: And I think, like I said, people that got used
Speaker 1: to they see him talk because they most people more
Speaker 1: people saw him talk inside the NBA on TNT now on.
Speaker 4: ESPN, and they like he do all this talking. He
Speaker 4: was Okay, he wasn't that good, Yes he was. Now
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 1: He was a dog somebody the top fifty player, he's
Speaker 1: the top. He's the top seventy five player. He gonna
Speaker 1: be a top one hundred player. He gonna be a
Speaker 1: top one hundred and twenty five player. Well fifty, he
Speaker 1: always be a top player. I don't give them who
Speaker 1: comes a long.
Speaker 5: You're talking about, hey, y'all talking about in football the
Speaker 5: intimidator fact, the intimidation factor that you bring you trying
Speaker 5: to intimidate you, trying to move him.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's how Barkley played bro Then that intimidation
Speaker 5: factor Yeah, that's how he played.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of somebody.
Speaker 6: Remember when him and Shock got at it when yeah
Speaker 6: he hit Sho the head with the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 1: Oh, dealing with Charles Oakley, Yeah, you know, you know
Speaker 1: that those Xavier McDaniel, boy, they had they had some
Speaker 1: headhunters back then. The yeah, hey, just fight at the
Speaker 1: drop of a hat. What you found me too hard?
Speaker 4: Did that? That was just that, just looking for a reason.
Speaker 4: But that was a regular file. Ah, Now you filed
Speaker 4: me too hard? You and you had to put your
Speaker 4: set up back then. Boy. Oh yeah, I didn't knock
Speaker 4: here at you. They didn't do a whole It wasn't
Speaker 4: a whole lot of talking. It wasn't no, it wasn't
Speaker 4: no talking back then. Man, I got to get a
Speaker 4: grip on this. And it was even worse than the
Speaker 4: seventies and with the bor Reice, Lucas and Kerbitt Washington.
Speaker 4: They had real really forces back then, and then it
Speaker 4: just picked up in the eighties where they had ex man,
Speaker 4: they had oh Barkley was his own enforce of call bloone. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 4: they had.
Speaker 1: Kevin McHale. Hey, don't sleep on daddy age Danny A.
Speaker 1: We filed the hell out of people. Yeah, man, you
Speaker 1: remember he threw the ball. Were hit in the face
Speaker 1: with the basketball, Mario Ellen, Joe, you remember he threw
Speaker 1: the ball. It hit Mario Ellen park Blank who is
Speaker 1: his daddy age when they played against him in the playoffs. Yes,
Speaker 1: he took the ball out and threw I'm talking about
Speaker 1: he from me. He was from me to this this
Speaker 1: this tele of this monitor. And he didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: be in the face with the ball. As hard as
Speaker 1: he could. He ran back like chat. Y'all remember that
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman, I mean they had been with boy, look
Speaker 1: at the bad Boy Pistons with Rodmin and sal and
Speaker 1: Lambert and Rick Mahard.
Speaker 4: Man. You know I played with Dan Marlin like his
Speaker 4: last two years in the NBA.
Speaker 5: Oh did you Yeah? In Phoenix and Phoenix. Boy, they
Speaker 5: loved my damn Phoenix. Yeah, man, y'all better go look
Speaker 5: at that. They talk about he didn't mean to do that. Boy,
Speaker 5: I'd still been with it on daddy a Jay, y'all
Speaker 5: pull that up. Go look at that. Joe pulled that
Speaker 5: up right quick. That man did that on purpose. I
Speaker 5: know It's it was different back then. Bro nah it,
Speaker 5: Joe would have been different. Bad look here.
Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Senior say he has an issue with players
Speaker 1: podcasting doing the NBA season during the season, Like Draymond,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with It's all right to them, but
Speaker 1: I feel like you're disrespecting these other teams. You're talking
Speaker 1: about these teams, you know, and Adam Silver just let
Speaker 1: it go. David Stern would would have said, hell Na,
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. If you talked about a team
Speaker 1: in the media, like I say, their trade or something
Speaker 1: like that, you would have gotten fined by David Stern.
Speaker 1: He would have fined you. You don't talk about anybody,
Speaker 1: nobody else's team. You talk about your team, your organization.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: Josh hard trolled him to Tim, I agree, Joe. Do
Speaker 1: you agree with Tim Hardaway Senior that they should not be,
Speaker 1: you know, at having podcasts during the season.
Speaker 5: Man, I can't sit here and say whether you should
Speaker 5: or shouldn't, okay, o, Joe. If you're a competitor, if
Speaker 5: you competing, if you're playing a professional sport, I guess,
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess it's all about you handle it.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? You know, I mean, you
Speaker 5: got some guys. See, here's the thing. It's like if
Speaker 5: you piddon and you playing well, everything all fine and dandy, correct,
Speaker 5: but hell have you potton and y'all getting y'all breaks
Speaker 5: blue out of their damn game, man, please them.
Speaker 4: Folks gonna be looking at you crazy. Yes, And that's
Speaker 4: how it go.
Speaker 1: And then when you win, you you you, your podcast
Speaker 1: is weekly, all of a sudden you go on the
Speaker 1: losing street and they don't see your ass for a
Speaker 1: month straight. Then what happened? Because they want people on consistency.
Speaker 1: Their favorite show came on what once a week? That's
Speaker 1: what you knew. You knew the severy Son, the Jefferson
Speaker 1: Food Time, you knew that. Whatever your favorite show is,
Speaker 1: whether it's Friends or Everybody Loves Raymond or Two and
Speaker 1: a Half Man, whatever the case may be, I'm just
Speaker 1: giving you an example. Your favorite sitcom, you knew it
Speaker 1: was coming on. That's what people like. But you, when
Speaker 1: things are going good, you averaging this and you y'all winning,
Speaker 1: you up there?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, woo whoop, And all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, y'all go cold spatch and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: podcast what the podcast? Yeah he consistency is the key.
Speaker 1: May I. I don't think I wouldn't because I already
Speaker 1: know how I am.
Speaker 4: I don't be.
Speaker 1: I don't be gonna said something that I probably shouldn't say,
Speaker 1: So I just go.
Speaker 4: I just gonna catch you. I'm gonna catch you at the.
Speaker 5: Game because you know, you know them wins and losses
Speaker 5: aren't oho. They had you so damn emotional.
Speaker 4: Bro. Yes, you know I'm saying.
Speaker 5: From a win, you can be emotional, and from a loss,
Speaker 5: you know it can hand you to a hell. You
Speaker 5: ain't want no damn body to be around you. I
Speaker 5: don't know about child, but I should be like that sometime.
Speaker 4: Man. You already know who I am. Joe. Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Ain't the easy more folk to get along with. When
Speaker 1: we win it, I'm insufferable. I'm intolerable when we lose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all that work out and put in.
Speaker 4: And we lose it.
Speaker 1: And you, oh, Joe, I don't know how it was
Speaker 1: with you, Joe Hodie and basketball. You know when you're losing, Ojo,
Speaker 1: everything is the problem. Man, Get off your helmet. I
Speaker 1: was sitting on my helvet. We won some game the row.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the reason we was winning without was sitting
Speaker 1: on my helmet. Now that's the reason we lose it. Man,
Speaker 1: clean up this damn locker room. The locker room was
Speaker 1: dirty when we were winning. Everything everything. Put your mind
Speaker 1: piece in. I don't even play with a mind piece.
Speaker 1: You talking about put a mind piece in?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and everything. Everything the reason why you lose it, Joe.
Speaker 5: Everything gets magnified when you loseing. Hey, tuck your damn
Speaker 5: shirt in when.
Speaker 4: You're going in the game. Damn they were hanging out
Speaker 4: last game. Uh yeah, I get it, bro. You know
Speaker 4: how it is.
Speaker 5: And that's why you gotta That's why you kind of
Speaker 5: gotta you know, you kind of gotta walk that straight
Speaker 5: and narrow, bro, even when you win and lose. And
Speaker 5: that's why I'm gonna be honest with y'all. That's why
Speaker 5: I always kept an even killed, because I never wanted
Speaker 5: to show my emotions even when I was pissed off.
Speaker 5: You know, I should have to restrain myself and control
Speaker 5: my emotions.
Speaker 4: I always was that kind of guy.
Speaker 5: And even when I was at my peaked while I
Speaker 5: was playing well, we winning, bro, I just always kept
Speaker 5: it even killed because I understood if it was going great,
Speaker 5: how bad it could be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 5: Went from I came from Phoenix. We had won sixty
Speaker 5: two sixty three games a year. Coming to Atlanta, Bro,
Speaker 5: we won twenty nine games, Uncle ojo. We started off
Speaker 5: three in like twenty eight. Like, Bro, you are look
Speaker 5: if you start the season.
Speaker 4: I was like that.
Speaker 5: You were already out the damn playoff picture. Damn what
Speaker 5: the hell were playing for? But we're still getting our
Speaker 5: damn check on the first and fifteen. Hell, hey, Joe,
Speaker 5: ain't like you about to go twenty ninety three. Come on, man,
Speaker 5: keep it one hundred. Damn, we ain't gonna be in
Speaker 5: the postseason. Hell we know that before Thanksgiving?
Speaker 4: Got here? Hell damn, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah that Hey that's the thing. Look, I was, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a cleanly person. I hated to see a
Speaker 1: locker room. Oyo, how to do? You right here? You
Speaker 1: right here for me to this model to chat, and
Speaker 1: you throw your job, You throw your clothes, man, put
Speaker 1: the thing in the bag. Man, why you'll bro The
Speaker 1: dude be right there, he right there, his locker, right
Speaker 1: next to the launder hamper.
Speaker 4: He throw his shit on the floor. Yeah yeah, come on, man.
Speaker 1: Come on, I know y'all. And then y'all, hey, searp,
Speaker 1: you want to come up to No, your house dirty?
Speaker 1: I already know if your locker dirty, your house dirty?
Speaker 1: I said, boy, I wouldn't you let y'all house if
Speaker 1: I was a hostage.
Speaker 4: Starve me out? Hey, y'all know, yeah, but I used
Speaker 4: to man, it used to be baby. So I was like, oh, no, bro,
Speaker 4: how is the reason why we lose it? None of
Speaker 4: the things that we're doing was the reason why we winning.
Speaker 4: These are the reason why it was because we're executing.
Speaker 1: That's why you said, Hey, look at this play right here,
Speaker 1: Look at the hustle play All of a sudden we losing.
Speaker 4: We don't have the same hustle.
Speaker 1: We don't have the same attention to detail with turning
Speaker 1: the ball over at a high clip than what we
Speaker 1: were when we winning. It ain't that complicated, You're really not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm insumferable. You know, hey, Now, when God, we start
Speaker 1: already losing the guys he ain't taking it, sai. If
Speaker 1: they're dropping past, they're not playing attention to the detail. Bro,
Speaker 1: That ain't what you're supposed to be doing, right and
Speaker 1: what that card say? Now, see when I come up
Speaker 1: here on Tuesday and you got you a a sean. Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I see you around. You're wapping me up because they
Speaker 1: getting your ass up out of here, and you were
Speaker 1: talking about they did. You're wrong, but you ain't doing
Speaker 1: what the cards say. The car say you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be in the flat, The car say you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be in the hook, the cars.
Speaker 4: Say you're supposed to carry up the scene. But you're
Speaker 4: doing your own thing. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now, when I come up here to work out on
Speaker 1: Tuesday and you got your bag, you got your bag
Speaker 1: that helped the bag on your throat, across your shoulder,
Speaker 1: be mad.
Speaker 4: Don't be mad, understand it? Hey, mad ain't sharp? I
Speaker 4: see your round. No you won't. No, you won't.
Speaker 1: Because when I tried to tell you, you ain't want
Speaker 1: to listen to me. I'm just trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: Keep to try to keep it. Hey, as long as
Speaker 1: you can stay on the team, the better chances are
Speaker 1: you're gonna get an opportunity to play.
Speaker 4: O Joe. You can't play for a team if you're
Speaker 4: not on one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you can go back and tell your homeboys
Speaker 1: and everybody that they screwed over you. But you're not
Speaker 1: gonna really tell them, cause they asked, man, what was that?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: Here, Hey, I got a couple of clips, practice clips.
Speaker 1: Take a look at this that tape. Hey they taped,
Speaker 1: don't lie, No, I'm telling that Bill Davis. Bill David say, look, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to cut a lot of y'all. He said,
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna do. You're gonna go home
Speaker 1: and tell your parents. Coach f'd over me. And when
Speaker 1: you're coming they come in here, I will pop the
Speaker 1: tape in. I would say, see he infing over me.
Speaker 1: That ain't what he's supposed to be doing. But you
Speaker 1: know how, Look, O Joe, you got the homeboy, and
Speaker 1: you go back and they asked you.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, O Joe, tell them what's your boy?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 4: O Yoe? Well you boy where you're born? Like that?
Speaker 1: O Joe, Joe telling your boy? A telling your boy
Speaker 1: could have went the college like you. Sure he could
Speaker 1: have went the college like me. He could have been
Speaker 1: the league just like me. Hey A no sense, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: ain't no sense to me. Yeah, you're right, hey, bab
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 4: He was good.
Speaker 1: Now he were good? Some of them, Yeah that worked good.
Speaker 1: Some of them bro, stop bro, you quit school in
Speaker 1: the third grade. How the hell you gonna get I
Speaker 1: don't know what you could have been here?
Speaker 3: Hey, everybody got a story.
Speaker 1: Hey, we come out on the bus and you shooting
Speaker 1: marbles in the yard. How the hell you gonna go
Speaker 1: to high school? You shooting marbles in the yard in
Speaker 1: the fourth grade?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm on the bus.
Speaker 1: But you know what, now we thirty thirty five years
Speaker 1: of age. Joe let him have the moment. You right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you right Hardaway also came at the Tyler Hero for
Speaker 1: not being all the way Heat. You wasn't you wasn't
Speaker 1: Heat all the way? You were outside of the Heat culture.
Speaker 1: For bad to be your guy, and you say that
Speaker 1: about him, that's not cool. Bam handled it the right
Speaker 1: way he thought was best for him. I was disappointed
Speaker 1: in Tyler too. I didn't like what he said about
Speaker 1: Bam and how he said it. Ye, Joe, they have
Speaker 1: a thing that asked who do you think on the
Speaker 1: Heat team would have your back? Tyler Hero said Bam, So.
Speaker 4: Why are you saying that about him? Then listen, don't start, Look,
Speaker 4: don't start.
Speaker 3: Two things can be true.
Speaker 6: If asked that question, the one person you want to
Speaker 6: have your back. Obviously, anybody planning for the heat, you
Speaker 6: would say, Bam. But then also can also feel that
Speaker 6: way about Bam when he said what he said in
Speaker 6: the DM.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you ain't no way if somebody you think
Speaker 1: somebody gonna have your back or Jo, you're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about him like that now because guess what you said
Speaker 1: that before you Now, had you said, had you said A, X,
Speaker 1: Y and zrobably wouldn't say.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: He probably didn't think that nothing was gonna come over.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, oh, Joe, I don't know why
Speaker 1: certain teamsa favorite certain players.
Speaker 4: That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero make it seem like he don't know how
Speaker 1: sparts work, Joe. Some teams favorite some players over others.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 4: Some parents favor some kids over others. It's okay. They
Speaker 4: talk about I love all my kids, know you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't love them all the same, You star, you
Speaker 1: love them all the same, but you damn sure don't
Speaker 1: treat them.
Speaker 4: All the same. And kids know it's really that simple.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know anything about Tyler Hero. Uh
Speaker 4: uh uh.
Speaker 1: Senior is down there he probably knows. He's probably have
Speaker 1: intimate knowledge, more intimate knowledge than what we have. So
Speaker 1: I gotta take it. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about I know what obviously what the Heat culture is.
Speaker 1: You play hard, you do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: We play with the ball game, you play the right way.
Speaker 4: So I get that.
Speaker 1: I just thought pat Riley was just fed up with
Speaker 1: because every year you hurt at some point time during
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 5: Joe, he hurt, Yeah, he hurt. But I think he
Speaker 5: still had a little value to Uncle Ojo. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: why you That's why you're able to get rid of him,
Speaker 5: you know. They Hey, look, you talk about guys being traded,
Speaker 5: but you have to have somebody, somebody else who had
Speaker 5: who wants you for you to be.
Speaker 4: Traded, you know what I mean. So I think he
Speaker 4: had a little value to him.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: But I just I'm I'm with you. I'm with you,
Speaker 4: Ma'm I'm with I'm with Tim Hardaway, Senior. Bro. I
Speaker 4: don't like. I don't like when guys go to different teams. Bro.
Speaker 4: Then they started talking about the team.
Speaker 5: The last guys on the other team Man leave that
Speaker 5: long but new chapter Homie move on, bro, let it go,
Speaker 5: Let it go, because look cause you see, you see
Speaker 5: what happened. You start sending these shots, hey, and you
Speaker 5: ain't hard to find Pardner.
Speaker 1: Hey, you see what happened? Hey, Oh Joe, you see
Speaker 1: what happened. When you throw a shot out there, you
Speaker 1: vulnerable for what a shot coming back?
Speaker 3: Loss?
Speaker 4: Yes, literally he threw a shot figuratively bad threw one. Literally,
Speaker 4: Look over.
Speaker 1: The last five or six over the last five or
Speaker 1: six years, when they talk about trading players, the one
Speaker 1: name that's never, that's ever, that's untouchable, has been whom damn. Yeah, Bro,
Speaker 1: they had a chance to give James Harden, but they
Speaker 1: wouldn't give up Tyler Hero. Hell a lot of gave
Speaker 1: up guitar Hero, Tyler Hero, any other hero to get
Speaker 1: James Harden.
Speaker 4: And they still might have a chance to get him.
Speaker 4: Though they still might. But you have to understand, bro, A.
Speaker 1: Six nine guys that can play both ends of the court.
Speaker 1: They don't grow on trees. What that's unselfish? That plays
Speaker 1: the right way.
Speaker 4: They don't grow on trees, can defend play both ends
Speaker 4: of the court.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely right, mine his own bends. Pat Riley
Speaker 1: mic Errison, that I think his son named Nick o Jo.
Speaker 1: You would know better than me. They ain't worried about
Speaker 1: Bam being in the Blottos. They worried about Bam being
Speaker 1: out of the club doing none of that.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, so.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying so I don't want chat because y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all try to twist it. I'm not saying Tyler Hero
Speaker 1: was doing anything of that sort. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: when they put that, when Bam was in order to captain,
Speaker 1: he's to carry this because you got to have somebody
Speaker 1: to carry.
Speaker 4: I think the.
Speaker 1: Problem was that they had in New England, o Yo,
Speaker 1: the key culture. Even though Mayo was there, who could
Speaker 1: carry that? They say, you know what, let's bring a
Speaker 1: guy in. That was a part of that that was
Speaker 1: really really entrenched. You see what they got back to
Speaker 1: Mike Brable. You see how they play, You see how
Speaker 1: they do things. Even when Stepan Diggs had that situation
Speaker 1: on the boat, bring let me let you right quick,
Speaker 1: yuck right quick, Hey, step into my office, he said, Coach,
Speaker 1: I thought your office is upstairs.
Speaker 4: He said, Noah, I moved it over here. Brooker. That
Speaker 4: is what we do here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we play football here. Now that's not what you
Speaker 1: want to do. We can make that happen too. But
Speaker 1: when you hear it's football all the time, that's your life.
Speaker 1: So what do you your model, your fashion influenza are?
Speaker 1: You're a football player? Now, if we take football away,
Speaker 1: which one you think you're gonna be.
Speaker 4: A lot of time? Guys? People forget the main thing
Speaker 4: is the main thing? Hello? Forget? Oh I do podcast?
Speaker 4: No no no, no no no no, no no no no.
Speaker 1: How many people if you weren't in the NBA, if
Speaker 1: you weren't in the NFL, how many people you think
Speaker 1: gonna be watching? You got to keep the main thing,
Speaker 1: the main thing. Don't lose sight of that. Guys, I
Speaker 1: understand you want to have a life. Some teams will
Speaker 1: allow you to have a life. New England ain't one
Speaker 1: of those places you first hand.
Speaker 4: Hey absolutely he Hey hey yours here to play ball?
Speaker 4: We ain't trying to. Yeah, that's how it was with
Speaker 4: Mike Shanahead.
Speaker 1: You know why you were there, and hey, leave your
Speaker 1: ego at home, they said, But check your ego at
Speaker 1: the door now, because guess what, when I turn and leave,
Speaker 1: you might go back and get the ego If it's
Speaker 1: at the door.
Speaker 4: Nah, leave that thing at home. Hey, but that's kind
Speaker 4: of what the game coming down to.
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, Joe, you know all these players, especially the
Speaker 5: top guys, you know, the main guys, the star players,
Speaker 5: the megastars, man, they all got a platform on Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's a little it's it's not a little different. Hell,
Speaker 5: it's a lot different. Hell just from ten years ago. Joe,
Speaker 5: you're making sixty seventy million dollars. Then they say, you
Speaker 5: know what, Hey, I want you to just focus on
Speaker 5: this right here. I don't think it's that hard.
Speaker 4: That's me.
Speaker 1: That's just me personally. And maybe because I took you
Speaker 1: took the game a lot like I took the game. Ocho,
Speaker 1: Ocho gonna be Ocho. You can't pay Ocho enough not
Speaker 1: to be Ocho. So you already know he gonna act
Speaker 1: of who he Hey, he get it ins old you
Speaker 1: o Yo, donna celebrate? Okay you I ain't gonna celebrate
Speaker 1: as soon as you get close than it is old.
Speaker 1: They get it down in the one yard. Like he
Speaker 1: thinks he scored, he celebrated. So you already know certain people,
Speaker 1: certain people.
Speaker 4: Like o Cho.
Speaker 1: It ain't about money, o Cho Ocho you gotta let
Speaker 1: him be him. If you don't let him be him,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get the best of him.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if you let him be him, Ocho, as long
Speaker 1: as you're not hurting the team take off, he can
Speaker 1: be Ocho. He couldn't be Ocho in New England because
Speaker 1: they suppressed who he was. See the thing with Ocho
Speaker 1: is Ocho is an entertainer. First, he's a football player. Second,
Speaker 1: he's already thinking about Man, I get here, I got something.
Speaker 1: I got y'all don't even know what I'm about to
Speaker 1: do now. But when you take that away from him
Speaker 1: and you say, just focus on football, why can't I do.
Speaker 4: What I've been focusing on football.
Speaker 1: Just because I'm having a good time doesn't mean I'm
Speaker 1: not focusing on football.
Speaker 4: He was one of the few that if you let
Speaker 4: him be him outside of just the exit and those.
Speaker 1: To get the best version of him. But everybody can't.
Speaker 1: Everybody can't thrive in that system. You've got to buy
Speaker 1: in one thousand percent. It's it's hard when you've been
Speaker 1: a place and they've allowed you to be you for
Speaker 1: a decade and then all of a sudden you go
Speaker 1: there and overnight I can't beat me, that is bro.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: It's like going.
Speaker 1: I been eat meeting my whole life. Now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you talking about being vegan. What yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean pleased. But they better have some fat back in them.
Speaker 1: They better have some bacon here. Yo, I would eat
Speaker 1: a salad, but they better have some bacon. They better
Speaker 1: have some They better have something on top to me,
Speaker 1: some type of meat, chicken fish. I need something, be poor,
Speaker 1: I need something on top of these greeds. But you
Speaker 1: gotta But you gotta know. Hey, Mike, Mike, Mike never
Speaker 1: might like eighty four. Talk all you want to except
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, the first Super Bowl long. You don't
Speaker 1: cast this a penalty, I said, Mike, I can, Hey Mike,
Speaker 1: I get a fifteen yard penoty, go ahead, get an
Speaker 1: eighty four. That's when I started by talking. They gonna
Speaker 1: grab my face mask, they gonna shove me, see me,
Speaker 1: let me that joy.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: See I started talking on George Joe. Yeah yeah, personal foul.
Speaker 1: Sportsman like conduct defense. See see dumb, dumb, you just
Speaker 1: caught you. See dummy, I knew you wasn't that smart.
Speaker 1: I knew you weren't that smart. You've done your job. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what if you had brains, you walked backwards.
Speaker 4: I knew it. I knew it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Joe do I gotta really get it. Boy, if dynamite
Speaker 4: was brains, you couldn't even blow your nose.
Speaker 1: You shlf you bro. I'm just saying, why would you
Speaker 1: do that? But don't worry about it. I show appreciated
Speaker 1: fifteen yards now, y'all not finna get the ball back?
Speaker 1: Dumb dumb? Oh yeah, now I'm going off the field.
Speaker 1: I jogged off the field. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: I see you. You canna see me right now, right
Speaker 4: here in front of you.
Speaker 1: I hope you can see me. I don't know no
Speaker 1: blind NFL players. You might be the first one.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: You might be the dumbest one, because you know what
Speaker 1: I noticed on Yo, It's not so much. You know
Speaker 1: what guys really get mad about was that when you
Speaker 1: question their ability.
Speaker 4: M hm. Oh you you know you're really not that good? Right?
Speaker 4: You know that game plan was to go at you. Come,
Speaker 4: we knew you suck.
Speaker 3: Hey, that that that piss them off?
Speaker 4: Then off?
Speaker 1: We knew we knew, we knew you suck. Why you
Speaker 1: think we just running your side. Yeah, you're not that bright.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get fussed and you're gonna give us fifteen yards.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's gonna piss a guy. Yeah, I said, Bro, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know what's gonna happen, but I don't really see
Speaker 1: a scenario where you on this team next year. I
Speaker 1: don't see how it's gonna work out for you. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you keep playing like this, you
Speaker 1: might not make.
Speaker 4: It the next week. Oh, Joe, that's time to talk.
Speaker 4: You were telling them, boy, I see my.
Speaker 6: Talk was entertaining, Like more and more and more of
Speaker 6: a fun way unk be going at people head.
Speaker 3: I would I would never like that.
Speaker 4: Never.
Speaker 3: No, I'm on a regular conversation Joe alone.
Speaker 1: Nobody, Joe bothering nobody. Maybe a few people I'm bothering.
Speaker 1: But hey, but then when you try to you take it,
Speaker 1: make it personal. How we're gonna make it now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I know a few things. Oh, shay'd
Speaker 4: be lead and the cut? You know, Hey, you know
Speaker 4: I ain't.
Speaker 1: I God blessed me with the ability to play football.
Speaker 1: You best be with the gift the gam Yeah, he
Speaker 1: gave me those two things. Hey, he didn't give me
Speaker 1: the most intellect. I had to catch up. But I
Speaker 1: had to catch up with that. Yeah, I told my brother.
Speaker 1: I called him, said, man, look here, you can't come
Speaker 1: back on no more. You give it our information. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody ask you all that stuff about me? Dry snitch
Speaker 1: and ass.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I'm gonna tell Libery you
Speaker 4: told some stories. I said, from the sounds of it,
Speaker 4: Liberty Libby ready the tag to you boy?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh man, Shannon, you ain't got Shannon,
Speaker 1: you ain't got to tell everything. I ain't told nothing.
Speaker 1: I put it off for spanking Saggy put it off
Speaker 1: on me. But like you said, I was always the
Speaker 1: little one, so that you know, granted he just a
Speaker 1: little fella. It's okay. Let me take it with you.
Speaker 1: My sister eight, my think about it. My sister twenty,
Speaker 1: My sister twenty years old, but she wanted to take
Speaker 1: a twelve year old boy with her. Fuck my brother Dayton.
Speaker 1: My grandpa said, well you can't. Hey, you don't want
Speaker 1: to take that boy. You ain't going. Guess who with
Speaker 1: the car with the truck creak up? Guess who's sitting
Speaker 1: in the pastage to seat you did you make me sick?
Speaker 4: Now? You always want to go somewhere. You ain't even
Speaker 4: got nothing to do that, bro, And look here, granted,
Speaker 4: say you got to take me with her, take it
Speaker 4: over with granted you want me doing all this matter?
Speaker 4: Drive the car, Joe. That was so sick of me.
Speaker 1: But you know I had I had the powers. I
Speaker 1: had the powers of Barney and Mary Porter. Yeah you
Speaker 1: already say make him cry, you won't you? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the hell of the paint? Yeah yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: ain't I can crown?
Speaker 4: Come in? Hey, what's wrong with that boy? Ain't nothing nothing, nothing,
Speaker 4: daddy nothing, Bapa. You's something wrong with him? Me crying?
Speaker 4: And that he probably had that deep voice soon than
Speaker 4: the man he had.
Speaker 3: He like a baritone.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, deep boys, that's how he talked.
Speaker 1: Hey, come in the house. We we be at the house.
Speaker 1: We be watching TV. Hey, turn the TV to the news.
Speaker 1: I go turn the TV because it wasn't no more control.
Speaker 1: Then I go turn the TV to the news. All
Speaker 1: my aunts they go in another room. My sister go
Speaker 1: in another room because we're watching something. He comes to
Speaker 1: my turn to the news. So we get up at
Speaker 1: we get up and everybody get up and leave, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, bring your ass back, turn it back, man,
Speaker 1: Are you ain't finn?
Speaker 4: Come in here and do all that. Hey, what y'all
Speaker 4: had back then? Y'all had like the box you remember
Speaker 4: the box that came with the actually cable in the country.
Speaker 4: You couldn't get cable like I said. You got you
Speaker 4: got PBS, which was channel nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got channel three, you got channel eleven, and
Speaker 1: you got channel twenty two ABC, but you could barely
Speaker 1: get ABC.
Speaker 4: But you got NBC, CBS and uh and uh.
Speaker 1: There was no Fox back then, and you got channel
Speaker 1: nine so we could see Sesame Street and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: You had to work them up there then.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but we had the poll outside that
Speaker 1: you go turn That is right the whole hold right there,
Speaker 1: right there, right there, right there, you let the pole
Speaker 1: go the TV go for your gain, hod right there,
Speaker 1: that's it right here. I must be thinking food for
Speaker 1: the hold his TV. Hold this poll right here. Hell knock,
Speaker 1: excuse me, no, not if it happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Free agent Stefan dig says he's the best wide receiver
Speaker 1: number two in the NFL, and no one is better
Speaker 1: than him. Name your number two receiver right now? And
Speaker 1: is he better than me?
Speaker 4: Joe M. There are a number two receiver better than
Speaker 4: a couple?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's a couple.
Speaker 4: Dallas. Got what whoever you say is one the other
Speaker 4: two is better than step On? Cincinnati? Whoever you say
Speaker 4: is one is better than him?
Speaker 7: Minnesota, the Rams, Uh hold on that now what he
Speaker 7: said has true to it. Now beieve that their number
Speaker 7: two is better than him?
Speaker 4: Right as you go?
Speaker 6: Get as you go and get you go a bit
Speaker 6: further and you get a little deeper into some of
Speaker 6: some of the some of the some of the other
Speaker 6: teams like he is. He would be a bona fide
Speaker 6: Their number two is not better than him? And yeah, sure,
Speaker 6: and he's right even coming off of a CEO injury
Speaker 6: and having a thousand yards and I'm not sure how
Speaker 6: many touchdowns he has.
Speaker 3: To use him.
Speaker 6: You take their number two and you put him in
Speaker 6: that place, you're still gonna get the same production based
Speaker 6: on what he's able to do.
Speaker 4: Hell, I think he'd be good in Baltimore. Hell, I'm
Speaker 4: not so sure what you call him is better than him?
Speaker 3: What did I say?
Speaker 4: What did I say?
Speaker 6: He will go Bemoi either Baltimore, the Commanders.
Speaker 3: I'm still standing on that too.
Speaker 4: Now, hell, he'd be good in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, that's a good one.
Speaker 4: Might be even better. That's a good one.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 6: I'm curious to hear what the chat has to say,
Speaker 6: especially outside of Dallas, you know, Dallas, Cincinnati, Minnesota, Ram Rams, well,
Speaker 6: we have in Philly. We we I mean limited. He's
Speaker 6: not proven yet, but he will be the number two.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think who else.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's true to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing is Joe Ojo, And we talked
Speaker 1: about this. Yes, once you start bouncing around, it's hard
Speaker 1: for you. That's how people look at you.
Speaker 4: Now. They look at him as a journeyman receiver Ojo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Joe, you know how there once a player,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start getting traded, You involved
Speaker 1: in the trade, and then you involved in the trade,
Speaker 1: and you involved in the trade.
Speaker 4: Your journeyman. Hey.
Speaker 5: But it's crazy though, because he was a thousand yard
Speaker 5: receiver last year and I thought he played great for
Speaker 5: the Patriots, bro Yes, like he was reliable and all that.
Speaker 4: How do him? I mean great?
Speaker 3: Great team leader too?
Speaker 4: Joe.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. I agree with both of you guys.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is just how they view you. Now,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you know, hey, think about it. He started
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, he went the Buffalo, he goes to Houston,
Speaker 1: he goes to New England, and now this will be
Speaker 1: his fifteen m all this steph Now what you say,
Speaker 1: thirty two? How all the steph ash.
Speaker 4: Are there? He probably thirty two, thirty three gotta.
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, you know that. It doesn't make it any
Speaker 3: better with all all the off field stuff because.
Speaker 1: Y'all talk about you tell about Detroit Lions. So you
Speaker 1: try to say he so whoever you say, is what
Speaker 1: if so Ama Rah is one? He better than Jaymo?
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no, who said that?
Speaker 3: And that's my bad believing Detroit off that list?
Speaker 4: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: No no, let me add them to the part too.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, come on now, Chicago, good, Green Bay,
Speaker 1: good him young young bulls over there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I guess when you think about it, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: Is he gonna get picked up? Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 5: gonna get picked up, get picked.
Speaker 6: Up, absolutely, I guess. I bet it's one of those
Speaker 6: two teams. I just said Joe Watt.
Speaker 4: But what he made twenty million last year, those days
Speaker 4: probably over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean he won't. He won't make that
Speaker 6: minimum as long as it unrespectable. Give some respectable based
Speaker 6: on what he's able to come.
Speaker 4: In and do.
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewens doesn't believe there will be any drop off
Speaker 1: with AJ Brown leaving the Eagles. I mean they've got
Speaker 1: Devonte Simil. He's always been a number one guy. Even
Speaker 1: when AJ was here, he could have easily been receiver
Speaker 1: number one at any game. So again, he's going to
Speaker 1: show leadership. He's going to bring those guys along. So
Speaker 1: I don't see any drop off. Those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. O Yo, how are you taking this?
Speaker 3: And T t O's right.
Speaker 6: TiO understanding systems. He understands the difference in the offensive
Speaker 6: schemes that Philly runs the officer scheme that the Patriots run. Hell,
Speaker 6: the Patriots throw the ball. What a hundred times more?
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously I'm exaggerating to number saying a hundred
Speaker 6: times more, but they're there, they're throwing offense. You know,
Speaker 6: if you look at if you look at Philly having
Speaker 6: a running back like say Kwan, you gonna understand why,
Speaker 6: even in the passing era that the NFL is now,
Speaker 6: they would be a run first team. You're one of
Speaker 6: the few teams that have a back that is elite
Speaker 6: in a Tier one running back where the offense flows
Speaker 6: the run, the run opens up the.
Speaker 3: Past over in New England, hey.
Speaker 4: Throw for sure.
Speaker 6: They letting it fly, and he's going to have a
Speaker 6: much better season, maybe even the better season than all
Speaker 6: those combined.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Philly, I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 4: I just think the thing.
Speaker 1: Look, I think some of the things that he did
Speaker 1: in New England, I mean and Philly, he ain't tried
Speaker 1: that with Brabel. Now, Brabel knows him. He knows Brabel
Speaker 1: from their time in Tennessee, so he knows how Brabel is.
Speaker 1: Brabel knows how he is. But I can assure you
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have some of the issues that they
Speaker 1: had that that he had in Philly. They're not going
Speaker 1: to have that in New England. Ye you know, t
Speaker 1: O was very strong in the statement, me and you
Speaker 1: and I was talking and people like uh Aj was
Speaker 1: the best receiver. No Aj won a ring, congratulates, but
Speaker 1: even in Philly, he wasn't better than TJ t O.
Speaker 4: No, No, it wasn't. And that's not a knock on him.
Speaker 6: It ain't nobody in Philly ever played with Philly. Hell,
Speaker 6: ain't nobody in the NFL history. It's better than too
Speaker 6: unless you go into the conversation and want to bring
Speaker 6: up Randy Mawson, Jerry Rice, and Jerry Rice is in
Speaker 6: a class of his own.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm said. The three best receivers, and I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of them. Yeah, is for me if
Speaker 1: Jerry's number one. A lot of people believe that that
Speaker 1: that that that two and three is in unchainable. Some
Speaker 1: people got Randy, some people got k But for me,
Speaker 1: those are the top three. Yeah, it's unmistakable, right, Twenty
Speaker 1: two thousand yards, fifteen hundred catches, one hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: three receiving touchdowns, another another eight on runs.
Speaker 4: What are we talking? What do we? What do we
Speaker 4: We're not even having that discussion.
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, you know how we talked about it.
Speaker 6: I forgot we were talking about You watch hockey up close,
Speaker 6: you watch tennis up close, and how different, how different
Speaker 6: it is at the highest level. Joe, I had the
Speaker 6: opportunity man not only play with T o. But to
Speaker 6: watch him up close when we had to play against him,
Speaker 6: he was with Dallas well, young boy, he was something special, man, Man, Man,
Speaker 6: Joe Man, listen, man, it was something special.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 6: I found myself on the sideline as a fan watching
Speaker 6: a friend of mine and got a better understanding on
Speaker 6: why he was as great as he was.
Speaker 3: He saw Randy in person up close. Joe did Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: Joe.
Speaker 3: I ain't never I ain't never seen nothing like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen nothing like that.
Speaker 6: The DV playing seven yards off the DV and his backpedal.
Speaker 6: Randy take three steps.
Speaker 4: To throw his hand up.
Speaker 3: You ain't even broke the cushion yet.
Speaker 4: Can you get?
Speaker 3: Can you get?
Speaker 6: Can you step on the toes first? Man, Randy come
Speaker 6: off the ball man hit by folk by three steps,
Speaker 6: you know, Randy?
Speaker 3: Three steps?
Speaker 6: He damned there, eight eight eight, nine yards and he
Speaker 6: throw the hand up. And if the dB is still
Speaker 6: in his back pedal, the by the time he get
Speaker 6: going like that fourth or fifth step and the dB
Speaker 6: is back pedal trying to be pretty man, strike up
Speaker 6: the band better be in a full out sprint, already
Speaker 6: running backwards before he closed that cushion.
Speaker 3: If you not, man, it's.
Speaker 1: Over and t O you throw he t on hitch route,
Speaker 1: You're not getting him down. You better have the calvary coming.
Speaker 1: You're not getting him down. He ran angry every play.
Speaker 3: And he's shifty with it too. You notice how big
Speaker 3: t O was. He was a little shifty in the
Speaker 3: open air.
Speaker 4: And look he rubbed people the wrong way. But I
Speaker 4: love this game.
Speaker 1: I never QUESTIONEDO Tyo gonna block, Tyo, gonna do what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do. Yeah, to get all the antics,
Speaker 1: and they try to make a team, you know, make
Speaker 1: it seem like when they won, he didn't have play
Speaker 1: a role, but when they lost it was because of
Speaker 1: his antics. I ain't buy none of that, bull giant.
Speaker 1: I ain't by none of it for me until somebody
Speaker 1: else come along. The three greatest receivers that I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: and I've seen a bunch of them, Jerry, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: so we just start, we forget one.
Speaker 4: Let's just start go two on them. Yes, we can forget,
Speaker 4: we can forget. We can forget number one, fifteen hundred catches.
Speaker 1: The man had a thousand yard receiving Joe at forty
Speaker 1: you know who got the second most receiving yards as
Speaker 1: a forty year old.
Speaker 4: Tom Brady. What Tom Brady got the second most receiving
Speaker 4: yards for a forty year old.
Speaker 3: It's hard.
Speaker 6: It's hard to play that long Joe Expive receiver. Hey,
Speaker 6: the organization, they got to love you, boy.
Speaker 4: Damn. Jerry had one hundred yard Jerry had a hundred
Speaker 4: yard game at forty two. Hi, yeah, y'all go look
Speaker 4: at you, y'all ay, and they weren't throwing them. Y'all
Speaker 4: better go look at Jerry numbers.
Speaker 2: Uh,