Nightcap Hour 1: Jaylen Brown & Joel Embiid AT ODDS?! + MVP Year LOADING for Ant Man?!
Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Jaylen Brown and Joel Embiid having no contact and Chris Finch says this is an MVP year for Anthony Edwards
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00:00 - Introduction04:43 - T-Mac says Jaylen Brown and Joel Embiid havent spoken since the trade34:20 - Chris Finch on Anthony Edwards
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Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady said, Jalen Brown and Joe LMBI haven't spoken
Speaker 1: since the trade. Joe, let's take a listen to what
Speaker 1: t mac had to say.
Speaker 3: JB was on a stream the other day and he
Speaker 3: reached out to Maxie, talked to Maxie, and he talked
Speaker 3: to VJ. But he I don't think he hasn't spoken
Speaker 3: to and B yet. So and you know, they had
Speaker 3: their thing in past years, you know, personal, you know
Speaker 3: thing going on now their teammates, and I don't think
Speaker 3: there's been a conversation between the two, at least not
Speaker 3: to my knowledge.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything on it.
Speaker 3: So that's not a good sign. Because when you go
Speaker 3: into a new team and you going to a team
Speaker 3: that got this, this is the MVP, like you've been
Speaker 3: the MVP for this team. Now I'm coming to join
Speaker 3: your team and we haven't had a conversation.
Speaker 2: That's I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because we all trying to
Speaker 3: we're getting off to a fresh start, Joelle. You're getting
Speaker 3: off to a fresher start, right and now you're adding
Speaker 3: another MVP along with the young boys that you have
Speaker 3: to make things easier for you, to make things easier
Speaker 3: for you, And there hasn't been any communication as far
Speaker 3: as my.
Speaker 2: Knowledge, Joe, this is your level of go ahead on Joe.
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, I know you probably I'm from a football
Speaker 4: since you know when new players are coming in, especially
Speaker 4: of new receivers that are veterans coming from other teams,
Speaker 4: especially when it's the off season. I don't put too
Speaker 4: much into it as far as the communication goes. Obviously
Speaker 4: most of the players are off right now, they're traveling
Speaker 4: there with families. I wouldn't put too much into it, Joe,
Speaker 4: And maybe you guys may feel different about it, even
Speaker 4: though a conversation needs to be had. Listen, welcome to
Speaker 4: the team, maybe something like that. I think I'm a
Speaker 4: little bit more formal in person. You know, you guys
Speaker 4: see each other, but just saying hey, welcome to the team.
Speaker 4: As far as right now, especially why everyone's out doing
Speaker 4: their own thing.
Speaker 5: Is it's if I hear from you, it's okay.
Speaker 4: If I don't, I see you when it's time to
Speaker 4: play balling, it matters most.
Speaker 5: But Joe, you might fire different.
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you.
Speaker 6: Oh Joe, I feel like, you know, if they didn't
Speaker 6: have anything, you know, riff raft between each other, that's
Speaker 6: water under the bridge, now, Fellas. Maybe I have said
Speaker 6: some things and I still believe them to be true,
Speaker 6: but hell, we're on the same team now, and.
Speaker 2: Is water under the bridge? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, man, I mean Dollar Hero thought it was
Speaker 1: water under the bridge too. He said that months ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, but what I'm saying listen, we're on the
Speaker 6: same team now. I may have said something about you
Speaker 6: flopping cool you still do. I still think you're a
Speaker 6: hell of a player. But now that I'm here, listen, man,
Speaker 6: let's come together.
Speaker 2: Man, I ain't tripping.
Speaker 6: Maybe they have talked since that interview, but I'm like Ocho,
Speaker 6: I don't really put a whole lot of stock into that, bro.
Speaker 6: I just feel like MB knows what JB stands for.
Speaker 6: You know, what type of shape he gonna be in,
Speaker 6: you know, the mindset he's gonna come with You're gonna
Speaker 6: have to match that energy partner. If y'all trying to
Speaker 6: do something in the Eastern Conference? Is what is standard protocol?
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about the eighth man on the bench.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about a Bona fide A Finals MVP, an
Speaker 6: Eastern Conference MVP, an All NBA selection, a multiple multiple,
Speaker 6: multiple time All Star. What is standard protocol of a
Speaker 6: guy that caliber going to a team and the best
Speaker 6: player from said team or what of the best players
Speaker 6: from said team? What is normal protocol? Is it normal? Standard?
Speaker 1: Operate a standard operating procedures o P?
Speaker 2: What is standard? Joe?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, no, I ain't gonna see him act
Speaker 6: like it ain't normal. Now, normally, if you a guy
Speaker 6: that caliber. Now, if you get a guy that caliber,
Speaker 6: the first thing you know, you hit him be Hey, bro,
Speaker 6: welcome to the squad boom.
Speaker 2: Were about to make some shake. You feel me?
Speaker 6: We gotta be on the same page. We're gonna get
Speaker 6: together here soon. I know you're going through blazed and that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it should have been already handled. But he
Speaker 6: talked to the young guns already.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, maybe he's probably Let me ask you a
Speaker 1: question on, Joe when you went when you went to
Speaker 1: New England, did Tom reach out to you?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: No, uh no, I saw him once I got to
Speaker 4: the once I got to the stadium.
Speaker 5: Because he didn't have he didn't have my number.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, hell he could have got that. He could
Speaker 2: I mean, Belichick had it, so he could have got that.
Speaker 4: And me and Bill, you know, me and Bill had
Speaker 4: a relationship long before I got there, right, me and Bill?
Speaker 5: Me and Bill was really close.
Speaker 4: And another thing, what ifn Bede is still upset and
Speaker 4: then be swing on Jaylen Brown when you get there.
Speaker 2: Ain't chill bro ship. Hey hey, hey, bat, this ain't
Speaker 2: what Houston came to. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Listen, we had a little mishap. They see one thing
Speaker 6: about it. A lack of communication can lead to a
Speaker 6: real misunderstanding. Fellas me, and that's what.
Speaker 5: Jo wo wo, Joe. You ain't just in the thought
Speaker 5: that had that like that. Let me write that down.
Speaker 2: I'll go ahead. Take you time, take you time. I'm
Speaker 2: running back for the people in here. I'm running back.
Speaker 5: I'm running back my next argument.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna running back. A lack of communication can lead
Speaker 6: to a misunderstanding. Man That's how it was. But he hey, Bam,
Speaker 6: just had to get some straightening. You're getting little straightened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hate you see what I'm saying. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: Hey chat y'all. See how Joe hircle back on that.
Speaker 1: We had the left Bam and Tyler, he wrote long ago,
Speaker 1: now come little look, I kinda I kinda I kind
Speaker 1: of feel.
Speaker 2: Bam in a sense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It's like, Oh, Joe been doing all that talking about
Speaker 6: me and think when he see me, it's just gonna
Speaker 6: be kicky key.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why Bam saying, Hey Bam, say guitar hero his
Speaker 1: Hero five two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take that with.
Speaker 4: You, Taler hero Man that that's that's my dog man,
Speaker 4: that's my homeboy. I'm sure there was a misunderstanding. He
Speaker 4: said some things that he probably thought weren't going to
Speaker 4: get out publicly.
Speaker 1: He screen shots from the DM somebody's He tweeted that
Speaker 1: he did that in the DM. Somebody screenshot it and
Speaker 1: sent it out.
Speaker 5: I'm sure.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if he tried to apologize, knowing Tyler
Speaker 4: Hero the way I do. I'm sure he tried to apologize,
Speaker 4: and probably band really wasn't going for it. And one
Speaker 4: thing led to another. I hope cooler heads have prevailed
Speaker 4: now and they probably talked it, talked it out, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure Tyler Hero apologized and band probably do the
Speaker 4: set did the same thing.
Speaker 5: Listen, you move forward, we move forward, and we play ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey, that that would be something that would
Speaker 1: be better, ask if John, because I know that when
Speaker 1: they brought players to the team, I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't I wouldn't call it.
Speaker 1: Anybody ain't no realther Look, I've always had two phones,
Speaker 1: and you ain't getting the main line.
Speaker 2: That was for kids. You know, that was for very
Speaker 2: very select select group of people. That being said.
Speaker 1: Uh, Like I said, Joe, that would be something that
Speaker 1: you would I mean because quarterbacks, I'm sure you could
Speaker 1: you hear I've already talked, you know, when Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: or you hear Patrick Mahome, they already say, I've already
Speaker 1: talked to Patrick, beause I already took to Joe. I've
Speaker 1: already talked to Trav I was already talked to this guy.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to know what was standard operating
Speaker 1: procedure because that's not something that I've been in. When
Speaker 1: we bring in players, you bring you. Hey, I'll see
Speaker 1: you when I get to a mini camp or training
Speaker 1: camp or something at that level. So that's why I'm
Speaker 1: asking you, guys, because I've never I me personally, I've
Speaker 1: never bringing in I mean I really you never brought
Speaker 1: to anybody I really knew. And at that point in time,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like today, Guys, I understand, I'm a
Speaker 1: position friend. We're friends because of the position I'm in.
Speaker 1: You're my friend because of the position you're in this day,
Speaker 1: the day you got somebody Jo that you grew up
Speaker 1: with in high school, Joe you grew up with in
Speaker 1: high school. In college, we're what we call positional friends.
Speaker 1: Now we're friends because of the position that we're in. See,
Speaker 1: let's not make it more complicated than what it is.
Speaker 1: We're teammates, not Joe. We're teammates now, O Joe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's not lose sight of that. Okay, So hey, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you said that too.
Speaker 4: Because your teammates, Uncle Joe, you don't have to like
Speaker 4: each other. No, you're not there for a relationship. You're
Speaker 4: there to win a championship or to do everything you
Speaker 4: can to win a championship, and everyone has to pull
Speaker 4: their own weight.
Speaker 5: That's all it is. Now.
Speaker 4: If we happen to be friends and build a relationship
Speaker 4: because we're happening to be on the same team, yes,
Speaker 4: all for it.
Speaker 5: That's that's fine and dandy.
Speaker 4: And to answer your question now that I think about it,
Speaker 4: remember I got traded to the Patriots real late, right
Speaker 4: before the season started. Tom didn't have time to call
Speaker 4: me becausehen they got traded, had to be in New
Speaker 4: England in twenty four hours.
Speaker 6: He hey, Tom won't call. You know, damn where you
Speaker 6: fall in line? You get these damn waters. I'm throwing
Speaker 6: the ball. I don't worry about it. Yeah he wasn't him,
Speaker 6: but hell, you know, damn way, Hey.
Speaker 5: Joe, let me take you something.
Speaker 2: Get to New York.
Speaker 5: You're gonna fall in line to because I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna get damn hey man, look at your bad Joe.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe might change. Joe might have a change
Speaker 1: of heart and bring this girl. Don't beat him up.
Speaker 6: Come on, girl, you got chill, you got chilly.
Speaker 4: You might you might be on the something. Because in
Speaker 4: order for him to go to Houston, I think he
Speaker 4: had to bring her here. So you know how it
Speaker 4: is when you want.
Speaker 2: To go somewhere else.
Speaker 5: You want to do nice things for your girls.
Speaker 1: Joe, Joe, you see you see what I can We
Speaker 1: got we got an official.
Speaker 6: Okay, hey, Chad, chat ch y'all see, we can't even
Speaker 6: have a civil we might.
Speaker 1: We might want to get that laminated so they can't
Speaker 1: you Okay, no problem, no problem, mated. We always try
Speaker 1: to be We try to do things official. We don't
Speaker 1: ever want to think anything it's shade tree or it's rigged.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I mean, hey, this was
Speaker 2: an official document.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to I'm trying to see how in the
Speaker 6: hell we go from Jaylen Brown to my permissions left
Speaker 6: that well, I'm trying to see.
Speaker 5: That it also it all coincides.
Speaker 6: Well listen, yes, listen back to the Jaylen Brown thing. Yes,
Speaker 6: I think what's understood really don't have to be explained, honestly,
Speaker 6: fellas meaning and B I think he know everything revolves
Speaker 6: around him.
Speaker 2: Obviously they still No, I don't know. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's the case no more. Joe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm saying when I say revolve around him, I
Speaker 6: meaning playing the right way because he can't.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, Okay, he can't. He can't be no ball stopper.
Speaker 6: When I say fall in line, meaning like, man, look,
Speaker 6: he gonna get twenty points because he that damn good,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? But can you get in
Speaker 6: the floor of the game and not be a ball
Speaker 6: stopper to where it gets everybody and the guys you know,
Speaker 6: out of sync? You know, we want we want to
Speaker 6: continue that chemistry and continuity that they kind of got going.
Speaker 6: We don't want to pull the rings back. We want
Speaker 6: to continue to let them attack offensively. Hell, jb Em
Speaker 6: and MAXI both average twenty nine a game.
Speaker 2: This passed.
Speaker 6: Yes, y'all, don't think they trying to build on that now. Listen,
Speaker 6: I understand that they all gonna have to sacrifice a
Speaker 6: little bit. I just don't want to see that wild
Speaker 6: health to skelter ass basketball, no rhyme of reason, your turn,
Speaker 6: my turn type.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see that. Man. I want to
Speaker 2: see these guys being seen.
Speaker 6: And Joel play the right way and make the game
Speaker 6: easy for everybody around.
Speaker 1: And that's what I want to see. But I also think, Joe,
Speaker 1: you know what happened. A lot of times they overpassed
Speaker 1: the ball because everybody wants to show that they're sacrificing,
Speaker 1: and everybody wants to show just how unselfish they are,
Speaker 1: and they're not. They're like, I'm gonna show everybody, bro,
Speaker 1: take the shot. We're not saying we're not saying take
Speaker 1: the obvious. We're not saying do the you know, do
Speaker 1: the obvious right thing. But I think sometimes they overpassed
Speaker 1: the ball because they're trying to show you go out
Speaker 1: of their way to show that we're just we're so unselfish.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no problem with him. I ain't got
Speaker 1: no and you're not playing really good basketball. I still
Speaker 1: believe that you play fundamentally sound basketball, and guys know
Speaker 1: when when to do the right thing and when when
Speaker 1: it's not the right thing. That's just me personally, But
Speaker 1: I really wanted to see what you thought about this,
Speaker 1: because this is your level. And like I said, normally
Speaker 1: it's probably the quarterbacks that normally reach out because for
Speaker 1: the most part, that's generally the guy that's looked at.
Speaker 2: As the CEO. Now, it have been very interesting probably.
Speaker 1: I mean if you went to when sa Quad was
Speaker 1: with the Giants and they, you know, they had some quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: then maybe they reached out to that. But maybe it
Speaker 1: was Saquan or maybe it was Jetta, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Maybe it was something like that. But I know,
Speaker 1: you know, when guys to go to Kansas City, they
Speaker 1: would always say Patrick, they talked to Patrick, or they
Speaker 1: talked to Trap And so I was always interested to
Speaker 1: see because I was even though I was one of
Speaker 1: the leaders on the team, I would you know, I
Speaker 1: was busy. I was working out hey and and even
Speaker 1: like Joe, did you did you did you take guys
Speaker 1: when you when you were in college and they brought
Speaker 1: guys in, did you take them around Cavia?
Speaker 2: Did you take them on show them on the official visit? Nah?
Speaker 6: I wouldn't they got I was I'm when I was now.
Speaker 6: It wasn't that I was too quiet, man, I'd be
Speaker 6: too locked in. And I'm just not the typical guy
Speaker 6: when it comes to like showing guys a good time
Speaker 6: and all that that. Man, I ain't the dude for that.
Speaker 6: You're me, That ain't me because well, on my visit,
Speaker 6: I know they cut up.
Speaker 2: Damn Joe, you didn't participate, Nah, man, I wasn't you know.
Speaker 2: I wasn't part taking in that. Uncle. I want. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: let me tell y'all something. Man.
Speaker 6: Before I went to college, I had a real plan.
Speaker 6: I can't be here no longer than two years, bro,
Speaker 6: no longer than two years. I got to get my
Speaker 6: ass out of here. Yeah, hey, was no n I
Speaker 6: l back then. If I'd have got a few million,
Speaker 6: you know, I could have brought Mama to college with me.
Speaker 6: She could have been cooking.
Speaker 1: It away here because yeah, yeah, she could have got
Speaker 1: a place right right close by. It was that gonna
Speaker 1: be a little piss stop. Hell it a little pits stop,
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go keep it on, you know, get
Speaker 1: back on. Did you show people around with you where
Speaker 1: at Oregon State?
Speaker 2: Well? You hell, you just got there.
Speaker 5: I was. I was Joe. I was in school for
Speaker 5: two weeks.
Speaker 4: I went to one I went to one class. I
Speaker 4: went to my finance two class. I went to my
Speaker 4: final finance class.
Speaker 5: Joe, And you know I love theater and drama. He
Speaker 5: did nothing else?
Speaker 2: You did? You did just enough to get by.
Speaker 4: I did just enough that I normally use later on
Speaker 4: in life. You know, you know I'm dramatic. I love
Speaker 4: theater plays, you know, stuff like that, and finance.
Speaker 5: You know, I hadn't when to come to my finances.
Speaker 5: I don't play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how it was. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I did it well. Like I said, I showed Ben
Speaker 1: Coats around one time and I told him he shouldn't
Speaker 1: come there because they moved me to tight end and
Speaker 1: he will be on the bench.
Speaker 2: You told you it was a guy in the same
Speaker 2: position as you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, being coach that played with New England. That yeah,
Speaker 1: from South Carolina. He went to he ended up going
Speaker 1: to Livingston, but he came to visit Savannah State. I
Speaker 1: was I was his I was his host.
Speaker 2: So I.
Speaker 1: When I that was the only thing that was the
Speaker 1: first and the last time. So I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what position you play. I was a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, so you know, and coaching like a lot
Speaker 1: of times the top one offensive players that were coming
Speaker 1: in skill position players, coach would have me and I
Speaker 1: would only did it one time. So I guess he
Speaker 1: thought enough of coach that, Okay, coach, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: I said, man, man, what position you play? He like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm a tight end.
Speaker 2: I said, oh okay. I said, what what I mean,
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do?
Speaker 1: He's like, man, you know it'll be big for me
Speaker 1: to start my freshman year. I said, don't come here.
Speaker 1: He said why, I say, cause they moving me to
Speaker 1: tight end and you can't beat me up. I was
Speaker 1: just honest. And guess what, Joe, the next year, I
Speaker 1: was All American Conference Player of the Year, Offensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year, All Conference, and Black College All American.
Speaker 2: So what do you think the chance was he's gonna
Speaker 2: beat me out? It wasn't him. Man.
Speaker 1: He went to Livingston, had a great career, got drafted
Speaker 1: by New England, and him and I used to go
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl every year. If you was in
Speaker 1: the AFC from like ninety three to ninety eight, you
Speaker 1: wasn't going to the Pro bo not over me?
Speaker 2: And him.
Speaker 1: Was who was gonna start? He'll I but you could
Speaker 1: no hell now. But I was honest with him. Coach Davidson,
Speaker 1: goddamn home, I can't let you take him, take nobody
Speaker 1: else out. We ain't gonna get nobody. I just be
Speaker 1: And then if if I'm a wide receiver, I'm taking
Speaker 1: you on a recruiting visit. But coach, but it got
Speaker 1: to the point Coach said, you're trying. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: the slot receiver. We already got our two receivers. It
Speaker 1: was me and Squirrel. We came in together. So I
Speaker 1: was two, he was three.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Coach like, hey, I'm an All American.
Speaker 1: The next year I come back, I'm Conference, I'm Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, I'm first team All Conference. I'm
Speaker 1: again Black College All America. I was the only soideball
Speaker 1: on the Black College All American team. Right, All the
Speaker 1: black coaches were in Greensboro, North Carolina. Anybody that know
Speaker 1: the Sheridan Black College, but Sardon Network, they have a
Speaker 1: Black College All American just for HBCU.
Speaker 2: You HBCU players.
Speaker 1: My coach, coach Davis, coach from Gramblin Robinson coach from
Speaker 1: Jackson State, w C Gordon coach, Willie Jeffers. All those
Speaker 1: coaches are from Gunsling, Archie Cooley, coach Cooley.
Speaker 2: They sitting around now.
Speaker 1: Everybody else is juniors because guess what, they got the
Speaker 1: Black College All Star Game. So they you know, they
Speaker 1: out there practicing. All the coaches come in. I'm already
Speaker 1: there because I'm a soybebore. Obviously I can't practice with
Speaker 1: him because I'm not leaving college. And everybody was talking
Speaker 1: about this. This got old man Harvey Reid, who was
Speaker 1: running back. He was Player of the Year, Black College
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. They talk about all these guys.
Speaker 1: Vincent Brown, they call him the undertaker Mississippi Valley. He said, Man,
Speaker 1: this joker here gonna be good. Coach David said, look here,
Speaker 1: I don't mean to cut y'all off. He said, but
Speaker 1: I got the baddest in here, and he a southboy.
Speaker 1: He said, I tell you what, in five years, he
Speaker 1: be the bad. He gonna be the he gonna be
Speaker 1: the bad. Whatever he played, he gonna be the he
Speaker 1: gonna be the baddest one. All y'all good. I'm sure
Speaker 1: all these guys good, he said, But I got the
Speaker 1: baddest in here right now, and he's a South boy
Speaker 1: in li.
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, hey, you still you still talk to some
Speaker 4: of the players that played with you at Savannah State,
Speaker 4: like you still.
Speaker 2: Tell you Bucket being Bucket played together.
Speaker 5: Well what about Squirrel?
Speaker 2: About sir, I see.
Speaker 1: Squirre, I see when I go back, Squirrel. We got
Speaker 1: what we call the eighty six. Class eighty six is
Speaker 1: the best recruiting class in Savannah State history. Me Squirrel,
Speaker 1: Big Daddy rough House, Dame yard a couple of the
Speaker 1: guys are passed now Dames passed yard is passed coop.
Speaker 2: But we were the baddest.
Speaker 1: We were the baddest class BMW Mike Wallace. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: still we still, we still keep in communication. And when
Speaker 1: I go back, which is not often, we gave call
Speaker 1: eighty six, and when we see each other, we used
Speaker 1: to start hollering eighty six.
Speaker 2: And we know who that is. Eighty six We on
Speaker 2: the yard. They already know eighty six is at the house.
Speaker 1: Eighty six in the house, are y'all y anybody winnings
Speaker 1: Savada State?
Speaker 6: YA don't know about eighty six? Y'all should cut up
Speaker 6: on the yard than you may.
Speaker 2: I already know it. But look for the most part,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe at North Carolina, Kentucky the basketball teams because those
Speaker 1: are basketball schools. Arkansas probably is a basketball school.
Speaker 2: But at.
Speaker 1: I if you if you you go to a football school,
Speaker 1: ought you I'm just trying to figure out how anything
Speaker 1: can even come become close come close at Alabama, at
Speaker 1: Ohio State, at Michigan, at Penn State, to name what
Speaker 1: is even close to the football team guys, Georgia.
Speaker 2: H nah, nah, Yeah, Arkansas football school, you right, Nah?
Speaker 2: Nah the boy ad Hey, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we yeah, we still we uh we playing Apa,
Speaker 1: matter of fact, we playing. It's just so hard because
Speaker 1: everybody still is in Atlanta and uh in Savannah. Uh
Speaker 1: uh huh o Joe. And so they talked. They talk
Speaker 1: all the time, and a lot of times when they
Speaker 1: have homecoming, their face tied me. That's the only time
Speaker 1: I little face time. And like, man, hey, Sean, what
Speaker 1: thought on man? You need to beat down here? Nah,
Speaker 1: not with y'all drunk ass. I don't need to be
Speaker 1: down there.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's always great hearing from the guys. I invited
Speaker 1: Big Daddy, Squirrel, uh, Pope and Bucket. They came to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Aple. Matter of fact, I paid
Speaker 1: for those guys to come in rough house.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He asked Bucket to uh man, tell searp I want
Speaker 1: to come. I said, bro, I ain't ay if he
Speaker 1: paid for his way. I got him a ticket into
Speaker 1: the game, so I mean to the to the ceremony.
Speaker 1: So he paid for his on wait because like I said,
Speaker 1: he's the eighty six class. And we were we were
Speaker 1: like this here, yeah, we I mean, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: gods we might we fall against you know we I
Speaker 1: didn't fight, but you are something that you know, we
Speaker 1: knuckle up. But boy, ain't nothing come between us against
Speaker 1: It's us against everybody else. Yeah, we're gonna fight. Hey,
Speaker 1: dap it up and be okay tomorrow. Don't you try that.
Speaker 1: Don't you try to add them.
Speaker 6: The yard now, Hey, I can imagine the stories and
Speaker 6: boys boy huh yeah yeah yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Freaking over there.
Speaker 5: So it's so funny.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like that, Joe, Joe, Joe. I went to school.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I gotta get a degree.
Speaker 1: I gotta get a pot of here man, Porter statement
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Ain't that don't mean you ain't freaking cause you got
Speaker 2: to do our head.
Speaker 1: But I only had four years to be there. I
Speaker 1: couldn't be there freaking freaking would have kept me there
Speaker 1: next year or two?
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna get out regardless because back then, well
Speaker 1: I don't know if they do it now. Man, Black
Speaker 1: college ain't got no money to be red shirt nobody.
Speaker 1: You got to get a out of that. You got
Speaker 1: four years and you come out there. You come in
Speaker 1: there at eighteen, I mean seventeen. You getting out of
Speaker 1: twenty one. You come in at eighteen. You getting out
Speaker 1: of twenty two, ain't no red shirt. Even if you
Speaker 1: hurt yourself, you getting up out of there, you ain't
Speaker 1: got a year cut show.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, Joe.
Speaker 4: Every time, you know when Uncle and I first started,
Speaker 4: and sometimes he'll tell stories about, you know, some some.
Speaker 5: Of the things that happened at the HBCU.
Speaker 4: We have some really good stories, man, we first started
Speaker 4: the show, and man, it just got that just got
Speaker 4: me thinking. Man, obviously I didn't have opportunity because I
Speaker 4: was a knucklehead and I took such a long route,
Speaker 4: you know, in the system. And my love and my
Speaker 4: dream was to always the ten Florida A and M
Speaker 4: University just to hear talk about the HP HBCU experience
Speaker 4: in general, and being able to see my daughter cross
Speaker 4: their prayer b A and M and Joe. It experienced
Speaker 4: the atmosphere Joe, like I had to talk about my
Speaker 4: daughter crossing over Joe. I was in tears, Joe, Yeah, Joe,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about in tears. And the atmosphere was it was,
Speaker 4: it was unbelievable and I was.
Speaker 5: Only there for two hours. It's like iagine being able
Speaker 5: to have that experience for four years straight.
Speaker 4: If that small symb size emotional Joe rush.
Speaker 2: See them go over to see the a k A.
Speaker 1: The Deltas or yeah, you know obviously the the Five,
Speaker 1: the Frats, the Capitals, the Sigmas, the Alphas, they had
Speaker 1: all that, didn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like HBC, not the pageantry.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Homecoming, Joe.
Speaker 1: That buzz that atmosphere, that student center is buzzing.
Speaker 2: Everybody.
Speaker 1: Start the file, you know, the the alumni start filing
Speaker 1: in on, start coming in late Monday, Friday. By Friday,
Speaker 1: everybody there. They up on the yard they talk, Hey Sean,
Speaker 1: Hey what you got for Shan? You already know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put it down for you now. Came back to
Speaker 1: see o'shee do it. I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I do.
Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to go with my daughter senior year.
Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to go to Prayerview homecoming her
Speaker 4: senior year. Yeah, Joe, ain't never seen nothing like it, Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I ain't never see I ain't never seen nothing like it.
Speaker 4: And every time family has their homecoming, my you know
Speaker 4: what I gotta work. I'm always working on that Saturday.
Speaker 4: I've never had the opportunity to go.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. And that's what I tell people.
Speaker 1: If you went to a p w I, every black
Speaker 1: that gone to a p w I, you should have
Speaker 1: to spend one semester at a make to b c
Speaker 1: you and you wanted to be the fall. You wanted
Speaker 1: to be the fall because in the fall you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a little bit of everything. You're gonna get all
Speaker 1: the football season and you're gonna get a couple of
Speaker 1: basketball games.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Our football team, we would called the suit Coat the
Speaker 1: Suitcoat crew. So we come in there, all football players.
Speaker 1: We have a suit coat on. Yeah, and we gotta
Speaker 1: roll the toilet paper. As soon as our team score,
Speaker 1: we throw the toilet paper on the floor. They have
Speaker 1: to stop to get Hey, so now the player they
Speaker 1: getting they getting hight. Hey, Sean, y'all coming in. We
Speaker 1: got you, We got you, just hey, don't matter we
Speaker 1: sco first or not. As soon as we go by
Speaker 1: forty rolls of toilet paper, now you will mess up
Speaker 1: the door because hey, we only had so much toilet paper.
Speaker 1: And then we have a still toilet paper from the
Speaker 1: students center.
Speaker 2: But that's all right.
Speaker 1: But but the team, we had a great chemistry, we
Speaker 1: had a great foundation. We got we got along for
Speaker 1: the most part because uh Peacock basketball, football, and a
Speaker 1: few baseball players. But mainly it was football and basketball
Speaker 1: players that stayed in Peacock. Most of the baseball players
Speaker 1: stayed down there at at Boston. But we we we
Speaker 1: were close, We were close.
Speaker 4: And oh, man, I wish I had the opportunity to
Speaker 4: get that experience by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't nothing like it. College A college was fun, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just glad I went when I went.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't. Joe, we we couldn't go.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, well you could Joe, oh Joe, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't make it in social media era.
Speaker 7: Not in college. Oh not in college. No, not me, Yeah,
Speaker 7: not me.
Speaker 2: You gotta realize, Joe, I had a brother in the
Speaker 2: NFL my junior and senior year. You gonna be cutting up.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be cutting up. Bro.
Speaker 1: I had a three hundred z X with T tops.
Speaker 1: I got a Mercedes. See you had a Mercedes, a
Speaker 1: three hundred D big body. Yeah, boy, ain't passing up.
Speaker 2: Know who he got? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I already know it, and you know you young then man, Hey,
Speaker 1: I had to hire a hostage negotiator to talk him down.
Speaker 1: He'd be up about five six hours. I had to
Speaker 1: talk him down.
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, did you've done all you could do? Mister?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 2: You e's down? Now you got Jill.
Speaker 1: Joe had a hostage negotiator and talking down sad hey
Speaker 1: about me?
Speaker 5: Oh Joe, Yeah, listen, but let me let me.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you how bad I had it right.
Speaker 4: I wanted to never had the opportunity. Went to Ogan State.
Speaker 4: Obviously a great time. It was a short four month
Speaker 4: stint for me at Oregon State. But I love Fam
Speaker 4: You so much, Joe, and I was a knucklehead in school, Joe,
Speaker 4: I graduated high school late. I didn't apply myself small,
Speaker 4: but I didn't apply myself. I love Fam You so
Speaker 4: much even after I made it.
Speaker 5: To the NFL. You know, I had him about music.
Speaker 5: I love the band.
Speaker 4: I always been a fan of the band from two
Speaker 4: thousand to to two thousand and eight. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: how many people in the chat went to Fam You
Speaker 4: or maybe played in the band, but I'm sure you
Speaker 4: heard the stories. Every off season I did my training
Speaker 4: in Tallahassee, just so I can see band camp. Joe,
Speaker 4: just so I can see band camp. Man doctor White.
Speaker 4: I'm not doctor White, not there anymore right now. The
Speaker 4: band director is doctor Shelby Chipman. They saw a Joe
Speaker 4: every off season. I'm in Tallahassee.
Speaker 5: At bed, I go train in the morning and sit
Speaker 5: there to go watch band camp.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you ever an instrument? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know John play piano in alto saxophone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm to I love and just I couldn't go there,
Speaker 4: so that that gave me my sense of peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, being able to.
Speaker 4: See band camp during the off season, getting my trendy
Speaker 4: done in the morning and go Watchington boys man.
Speaker 1: That's uh yeah, because by the time you got there,
Speaker 1: Because when I came out, Prop forty eight had just
Speaker 1: been instituted the year I graduated because of what happened
Speaker 1: at the University of Georgia. So that made it work.
Speaker 1: That made it so everybody was up under. You had
Speaker 1: to make at least seven hundred or you have to
Speaker 1: sit out your freshman year. So the only place I
Speaker 1: really could go was D two or HBCU. So that's
Speaker 1: why I ended up going to Savata State because I
Speaker 1: was one of the top recruits coming out. But my grades,
Speaker 1: Like I tell people all the time, Joe, I couldn't
Speaker 1: have got in prison with my grades. Hey, I haf
Speaker 1: you to hold nobody, hold nobody. I'm not I what
Speaker 1: like I am now that I acquired knowledge and.
Speaker 2: Wanted to learn.
Speaker 1: I had no interest in that when I was in
Speaker 1: high school because you have to understand, I was so
Speaker 1: much better than everybody else in my school. I was
Speaker 1: so much better of a basketball player, so much better
Speaker 1: as a football player, especially my senior year.
Speaker 2: It was closed my junior year.
Speaker 1: My junior year, Uh, we had a guy to end
Speaker 1: up going to Georgia Tech, nam Afonso Thomas.
Speaker 2: He probably was the best player. I probably was the
Speaker 2: second best player. My senior year.
Speaker 1: Wasn't even no question basketball I best player, track, I
Speaker 1: was the best.
Speaker 2: I was the best at what I did. Uh So
Speaker 2: I ain't see no reading.
Speaker 1: They can't what you call they can to do no
Speaker 1: do no school work.
Speaker 2: They can't they can't even being out there in them fields.
Speaker 4: Hey, the chat, the chat making fun of me talking
Speaker 4: about I lie so much, But a chat do me
Speaker 4: a favor of those that think I'm lying.
Speaker 5: Look at my Instagram.
Speaker 4: Look at my picture that's on Instagram. That that that
Speaker 4: that that that Look look at a picture that's my Instagram.
Speaker 5: What do you call it?
Speaker 2: Your bio?
Speaker 5: Your bio?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your bio.
Speaker 5: Pick Yeah, look at my bio.
Speaker 2: Pick what about it?
Speaker 4: I mean because they talked about Oh, I'm lying by
Speaker 4: my family, my love for family and the band.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 1: Timber Wolves head coach Chris Finch put the league on
Speaker 1: noticeing Anthony Edwards will be a cold bloody score with
Speaker 1: the addition of LaMelo Ball. He's engaged in a way
Speaker 1: like I've not seen, and I think that's a combination
Speaker 1: of factors. Obviously the excitement of playing along LaMelo. I
Speaker 1: think it's also maturation and recognize what the team needs,
Speaker 1: where the team's at, he'll be far more like I
Speaker 1: think I've just engaged in the overall sport. He's looking,
Speaker 1: he's watching. He maybe didn't have the confidence to express
Speaker 1: some of his thoughts before, and now he's just way
Speaker 1: more community and it's fun Joe And can we see
Speaker 1: man seriously in the discussion.
Speaker 2: As an MVP.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think it can definitely happen. Obviously,
Speaker 6: health plays a big factor, Uncle Ocho. But when you
Speaker 6: look at LaMelo ball and and and man, they games
Speaker 6: compliment one another. LaMelo is so unselfish he make guys
Speaker 6: around him better. He has a natural feel, a natural
Speaker 6: great feel for the game, like when you watch it
Speaker 6: can't play bro like his. It ain't necessarily about him
Speaker 6: coming out scoring thirty to forty points a night. It's
Speaker 6: his natural feel of the game, knowing how to pass
Speaker 6: when the past, you know, seeing plays happen before they
Speaker 6: really even happen, and LaMelo was like that bro. He Hell,
Speaker 6: if I ain't mistaken Uncle Ocho, I think he led
Speaker 6: the league. And as far as usage rate making guys
Speaker 6: around him better, it's some stat the ive seen. But
Speaker 6: I think he's definitely gonna make the game a lot
Speaker 6: easier for a man offensively because he knows and understands. Listen, okay, boom,
Speaker 6: this our horse. I definitely gotta get him going. I
Speaker 6: gotta get him at least eight to ten e easy
Speaker 6: points to where he don't even have to fight and
Speaker 6: work hard, you know what I mean, And then he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be nice.
Speaker 6: Well, he's probably gonna have fourteen fifteen damn assist. But
Speaker 6: then there's gonna be some other nice where he's gonna
Speaker 6: have an officient twenty two to twenty five points.
Speaker 2: He'll lead him and score. You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: I just feel like, yes, they compliment one another and
Speaker 6: it's gonna be so fun to watch because they're both
Speaker 6: so electric box office and can play bro They both
Speaker 6: got something to prove. LaMelo gonna have a chip on
Speaker 6: his shoulder, you know what I mean? This is this
Speaker 6: is gonna be good for the game.
Speaker 1: And you look at it, Joe, He's got a guy
Speaker 1: not only canny facility that now he's the best. LaMelo's
Speaker 1: gonna be the best scorer that he's played with since
Speaker 1: Cat and he's playing with a guy that's a.
Speaker 2: Little more.
Speaker 1: Flamboyant as far as passing the ball than Mike Conley.
Speaker 1: He could score better than Mike College. They they're kind
Speaker 1: of saying, Mike Collin can facilitate, but Mike Conley wasn't
Speaker 1: the score that LaMelo whils. Yeah, and nobody's so now
Speaker 1: you got him, and you got Jay McDaniels coming on
Speaker 1: into is On, So now you.
Speaker 2: Just can't gang up on ant man.
Speaker 1: You've got to pay these other guys some attention, and
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be very, very interesting to watch.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it play. I can't wait to.
Speaker 1: See him go at it because ant Manny is so
Speaker 1: fun to watch. I've never see the guy because normally
Speaker 1: most guys be taking it serious, they don't really ant
Speaker 1: Maner will engage with fans on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's like, You're like.
Speaker 1: Man, hey, I gotta work out. I'll be big like you.
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know about that. Eddi's ah no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is this is a lot of not eating it,
Speaker 1: a lot of working out. Hey, it's good that he
Speaker 1: know his body because you know, some some of us know.
Speaker 1: You know, we know, but we can't afford no no
Speaker 1: bad week or two him.
Speaker 2: We've been picked up temper.
Speaker 6: But uh, I think Minnesota okay, oh Joe, I think
Speaker 6: they're gonna lean heavily, onna make Daniel really making a
Speaker 6: huge jump yeah this upcoming season because they're gonna be perimeinive, dominant, dominant,
Speaker 6: and they gonna need guys to really be able to
Speaker 6: score points and be effective on both ends of the court.
Speaker 2: And they got a number of casts who can do that.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: So they got offensive firepower. You look at the Somo,
Speaker 1: you look at Shannon, you look at LaMelo, you look
Speaker 1: at Aunt. Like you said, if McDaniels take that next
Speaker 1: step offensively, they got four or five guys that we
Speaker 1: know on a given well, we know ant Man can
Speaker 1: get thirty forty, but the other guys, and we've seen
Speaker 1: Melo get forty. But those other guys can get you
Speaker 1: a solid twenty. Easy, yeah, easy, And so now we
Speaker 1: got you. Look, you got your anchor with Rudy. Rudy
Speaker 1: gonna get Rudy, gonna be Rudy. Just give me a
Speaker 1: double double Rudy. Hey, anything over eight points we'll graciously accept,
Speaker 1: but we need you to be somewhere around eleven twelve,
Speaker 1: thirteen rebounds, a game around two three block shots, a
Speaker 1: game with some intimidation factor, because even though you don't
Speaker 1: block it, you alter it so much they're not even close.
Speaker 2: To make it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely have a man gonna be ant Man. I'm counting
Speaker 1: on him being that. But I agree with you, Joe,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: a very fun team. You know, they moved on from
Speaker 1: a jew Randal. They felt like he was clogging it
Speaker 1: up and and and wasn't.
Speaker 2: Uh this is me.
Speaker 1: Nobody's told me this, But like, I don't really think
Speaker 1: he ever really fit with what they were trying to
Speaker 1: do just.
Speaker 6: Right, right, I understand, Uh, you know, I think, uh,
Speaker 6: what happened, especially in the playoffs, they tried to play
Speaker 6: through random and it just didn't work, you know obviously,
Speaker 6: and man was hurt. He was hobbled. Hell he even
Speaker 6: came off the bench to first I think game or two. Yes, Uh,
Speaker 6: it just didn't happen for him. You're right, They games
Speaker 6: don't compliment each other because he's just not a He
Speaker 6: can catch and shoot and make a three, but he
Speaker 6: ain't no damn catching shoot three, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Like he kind of got to play through in order
Speaker 6: for him to be effective, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: You got to drop him the block, dropping the ball
Speaker 6: in the mid post, and let him work a little bit,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And they just it's kind
Speaker 6: of like force feeding. So I just think they're really
Speaker 6: thinking back, you know obviously with them getting rid of
Speaker 6: Cat and him going to win a title.
Speaker 2: Hell man, hey, hey things happened, bro, move on.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, I think the thing also,
Speaker 1: oh your and Joe, is that because Julish Render is
Speaker 1: not a great passer. He doesn't do a great job
Speaker 1: of passing when the double team comes, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a signature move.
Speaker 2: So now he's got to.
Speaker 1: Take fifteen dribbles just to get within a couple of
Speaker 1: feet of the basket to try to bull his way
Speaker 1: to the basket up and under you what man, So
Speaker 1: why you doing all that? I'm just standing around watching Joe. Hey,
Speaker 1: I ready, Joe, I'm like this. I read what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do for me. Now come on, now shoot it
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: I've read it. Like what damn? He like a he
Speaker 2: like a dump truck, a sanitation truck, big big, what
Speaker 2: damn Joey? And you?
Speaker 1: Now you pass me the ball with four seconds and
Speaker 1: runs the why I rushed up a shot? Now you
Speaker 1: killing my shooting percentage because you rushed me a shot.
Speaker 1: You gave me the ball thirty feet out. Hey, Ojo.
Speaker 6: The most underrated attribute a can't can have in basketball
Speaker 6: is being able to pass the damn ball, right man,
Speaker 6: I'm talking about That's the most underrated attribute because if
Speaker 6: you got a guy who can really pass, specially your
Speaker 6: bigs Man, they can make the game a lot easier
Speaker 6: for everybody. But if you got somebody man who came past,
Speaker 6: it's hard, bro. It makes a game a lot harder,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? So I understand what Unck's saying.
Speaker 6: You know, as far as you're random not being a
Speaker 6: great passer, man, you gotta have If your bigs can
Speaker 6: pass the ball, man, your offense can run real smooth, bro.
Speaker 1: While you think Jokic is so dominant, Oh man, why
Speaker 1: do you think Yokic is so dominant?
Speaker 5: You can pass his ass off like a damn point guard.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's why bigs that can pass out of
Speaker 1: the double team. Now, because guess what I passed out
Speaker 1: of the double team? Or Cheim Elijahwan he was passing
Speaker 1: at Kenny Smith, Jet at Vernon Mad Max who getting
Speaker 1: wide open threes? Orri getting wide open look threes, Sam
Speaker 1: Cassell getting wide open look threes. And now when you
Speaker 1: come to double team, I dumped the doll down the
Speaker 1: oldest thot, yeah, or I got Clyde slack knife into
Speaker 1: the basket boot. So when you get a guy like
Speaker 1: that Shoq with Kobe, you look at go look at Shaq.
Speaker 1: Now he's not a six, seven or six guy. But
Speaker 1: Shaq knew Kobe coming slashing, diving, he dumping off to it,
Speaker 1: Kobe dunk and the ball, or he's got Robert, or
Speaker 1: he got Rick Fox, he got Fish knocking down three.
Speaker 1: So when you got guys like that, it's hard. You
Speaker 1: got the double shot. You ain't got no choice, even
Speaker 1: though you know you got shooters out there. Look, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a three point shot. But Shaq gonna dunk your
Speaker 1: big in the basket if you don't double.
Speaker 2: It every time, every time.
Speaker 5: And think about that.
Speaker 4: You see what y'all just saying, right, Yeah, Shaq is
Speaker 4: how dominant Shaq is?
Speaker 5: Yes, And now think about that five we got down
Speaker 5: there in Miami. Huh. Think about thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Think about one shock and they're gonna ever be another one.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he is Shack. I'm just saying with team,
Speaker 4: they're going to have to double team.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 4: And we got and we got the King coming over
Speaker 4: there too, right, we got the King coming over there
Speaker 4: where he's had to carry the crime, carry a team
Speaker 4: on the shoulder. Stay with me, Joe, let me finish.
Speaker 4: He had to carry the weight of the shoulders all
Speaker 4: his career. Now, he wanted to sit back, kick back
Speaker 4: and relax and let everybody else do the heavy lifting.
Speaker 5: Guess where he can do that?
Speaker 4: At Joe where you can do that, Joe Boy, you
Speaker 4: can do that down and Dead County.
Speaker 6: Hey, Ojo Ojo, Janni's you really don't have to double Yannis.
Speaker 2: You just got to build that damn wall and trail
Speaker 2: the wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not done because he don't have a scene
Speaker 1: that you move Ojoe Ojo. He ain't got like a
Speaker 1: mini he ain't got no turnaround. I'll give him that
Speaker 1: all day. I just got to keep him. I got
Speaker 1: to keep him out of the paint. That's what as
Speaker 1: long as I ain't lett him do this a dunken
Speaker 1: the ball on me?
Speaker 4: You heard what you just saying? Yes, I gotta keep
Speaker 4: him out the paint. Who in the hell get succeeded
Speaker 4: on keeping him out the paint?
Speaker 2: Build that wall.
Speaker 1: It's a team that beat his ass in the playoffs
Speaker 1: where I can just focus on him, but.
Speaker 5: He by hisself, you can't just focus on him now.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just not gonna let him get thirty fifteen.
Speaker 5: Et seven eighty three.
Speaker 1: Okay three yeah, yeah, yeah, A real talk though, like
Speaker 1: Yannis getting the rebound, that's when he had his dead list.
Speaker 6: When Yanni's when Yannis get the rebound. Oh yo, I
Speaker 6: feel like he's at his dead list because you know
Speaker 6: he can attack.
Speaker 2: It's a fast break right away.
Speaker 6: So what teams have to do is you have to
Speaker 6: build the wall, meaning you gotta have at least ship
Speaker 6: two three sets of eyes on him and y'all in
Speaker 6: close proximity so he ain't got no lanes. He can
Speaker 6: kind of get into and getting the teeth of your
Speaker 6: defense and cause all kind of hell. Because once he
Speaker 6: do that, you let him get in there hell, and
Speaker 6: now he nerves hooped, dunking it, spreading out for three.
Speaker 2: It's just too.
Speaker 6: Many options, you know what I mean? But I think
Speaker 6: I think they gonna be a hell of a team.
Speaker 6: I think they're gonna be greedy defensively, which is gonna
Speaker 6: fuel the offense. Yeah, hey, ojo ojo, real talk. If
Speaker 6: y'all get Lebron, what they think gonna be turned up
Speaker 6: to the max?
Speaker 2: Over there?
Speaker 4: Boy, Hey, Joe, you ain't got to tell me because
Speaker 4: you understand that expert.
Speaker 5: A knowledge that you just gave me. Huh, what do
Speaker 5: you think Lebron thinking, Lebron, know where can I go?
Speaker 4: Why I don't have to show to the burden, what
Speaker 4: is gonna be the easiest route for me?
Speaker 5: Not to just play. We heard Risk Paul say, Oh,
Speaker 5: it's not about the money or it's not about getting
Speaker 5: the rink the hell you say, yes it is. I
Speaker 5: want my best chances.
Speaker 4: I want to maximize the end of the road as
Speaker 4: much as I can, and this is the best fit.
Speaker 4: I understood that, which is why I've been saying everything
Speaker 4: I've said. How do you think I knew Yonis was
Speaker 4: coming to mind me? What did I say on the
Speaker 4: show long time ago? It's long time ago before anybody?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Youndert ain't looking for houses. I mean, I
Speaker 4: ain't just throw that. I to just be throwing out there.
Speaker 4: And then we got the reports today. You saw the
Speaker 4: reports about Clay.
Speaker 2: What I saw that. I saw that.
Speaker 4: Hey listen, when I say something on here on night Cap,
Speaker 4: I know y'all think i'd be lying. I got and
Speaker 4: I don't even need you saw because I be in
Speaker 4: the room with the people that's making the moves.
Speaker 1: Well, you're saying you got really lucky because had Boston
Speaker 1: given that third year that Janni's wonted. Yannic would have
Speaker 1: been in Boston. You must have do. Boston was't gonna
Speaker 1: give him that third year, so you know, I know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Man, You know he would they
Speaker 1: will even that third year. But you said something very
Speaker 1: interesting before I was leaving. You say, Joanna's getting the
Speaker 1: ball on the redefensive rebound and pushing it. It's like
Speaker 1: a running back. Oh yo, what we make? What we
Speaker 1: say about Derick Henry.
Speaker 2: We gotta make him check his feet.
Speaker 1: If I left, if I just tossed him the ball
Speaker 1: and let him run and then come downhill, I gotta
Speaker 1: make him check his feet. I gotta make I gotta
Speaker 1: stop the ball. I gotta make Yiannis pick up his dribble.
Speaker 1: And I ain't talking about it the damn free throw
Speaker 1: line because it's too late. You let Hi pick up
Speaker 1: the drive. Love the free throw line. He had the basket,
Speaker 1: he dunking it or you followed it.
Speaker 5: Hey, the best thing you could do make him go
Speaker 5: east and west.
Speaker 2: Joe, Yes, I gotta stop the ball. I got it.
Speaker 4: That God damn Derek, Hey, that guy, damn Derek. Here
Speaker 4: we Joe, Joe, he weighed out as much as you.
Speaker 4: But he's six three and he get ahead of steam
Speaker 4: once he get past that the line.
Speaker 5: Boy, I'm making a business decision.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing you can do.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tackle his shoe.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna shoot as.
Speaker 1: A returner with saying, hey, the first guy down to
Speaker 1: the gunner, you gotta throw. You gotta make him. You
Speaker 1: just can't let him because when they just hit it
Speaker 1: on the move, yeah, it's too much. You gotta make him.
Speaker 1: You gotta make him check his feet. But I told
Speaker 1: Ojo o Joe when they first got dare what I
Speaker 1: told him you? I say, man, y'all putting him in
Speaker 1: an offset he's not an offset back. He's not Jamiir Gibbs.
Speaker 1: He's not Christa McCaffrey. Put that man heels at eight
Speaker 1: yards and tossed him the damn ball.
Speaker 5: He's an old school back on Oh, he's an old.
Speaker 2: School eye back. Joe. Hey, he want to be.
Speaker 1: You can put a fullback in front of him, and
Speaker 1: you can let the fullback slide the hell you want to.
Speaker 1: But he wants you to hand it to him or
Speaker 1: toss it to him. But he can't do He's not
Speaker 1: he's too long. He's a striding so as a long stride,
Speaker 1: you put him in the off set one step, two steps.
Speaker 2: He had the line.
Speaker 1: Hey, but he ain't shifted like he ain't shifted like Gifts.
Speaker 1: He ain't shifted like like like a Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: He's not.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have shaped like that like a James Cook.
Speaker 1: Those guys can operate in an offset position, but not him.
Speaker 2: He's too big. Hey, but I see, I told you
Speaker 2: how's he?
Speaker 6: How's see that big though, with that type of breakaway speed,
Speaker 6: because it's like once he gets.
Speaker 2: Through that, if he can get through that, he like,
Speaker 2: ain't no damn catching him the hair back.
Speaker 1: He throw the hair back like we did back and cut.
Speaker 1: It's over if we ever throw the hair back, good bye.
Speaker 4: So he's strong, Joe, Oh yeah, I'm not talking about
Speaker 4: this strong. I'm about when when he running in the
Speaker 4: open field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's strong.
Speaker 1: But see people missed on it. He would in the
Speaker 1: second round because of his style. You gotta look at
Speaker 1: Joe and Joy. He had the most, y'all. He has
Speaker 1: the most bush yards in high school football history. He
Speaker 1: boke Ken Hall's record of Sugarland, Texas. That's still for
Speaker 1: like fifty years. He broke that record. Now he goes
Speaker 1: to Alabama, he's not there loan to look at the carries.
Speaker 1: And he had what we call with upright running style,
Speaker 1: which is a big target. He's a big man providing
Speaker 1: you a big target to hit. So everybody says, ain't
Speaker 1: no way he's gonna be able to last long. He's
Speaker 1: got two thousand and three thousand carries in high school.
Speaker 1: He got another two thousand carris in college, and so
Speaker 1: he might at best got four five years. And here
Speaker 1: he is, if I'm not mistaken, going to your tier
Speaker 1: and go year eleven and have a chance to be
Speaker 1: the all time leading rusher. He has a chance outside
Speaker 1: chance to catch emittt Smith and Ladanian Tomlins as far
Speaker 1: as touchdowns from a running back. So he surprised a
Speaker 1: lot of people because of his running style is not
Speaker 1: conducive for someone because he's a guy that runs the contact.
Speaker 2: He's a collision back.
Speaker 1: He ay, if you know this, now, if he got
Speaker 1: there to open it, he see you cause I gotta
Speaker 1: tackle him, low Ojo.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hit him in his damn chest.
Speaker 5: You absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I'm going loo Hey.
Speaker 6: I noticed that this year too this past season, because
Speaker 6: he dealt with them damn fumbles because guys ain't that
Speaker 6: guy's like, damn taking this contact.
Speaker 2: I'm finna strip this damn bar. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And
Speaker 2: now I put that in the back of his mind.
Speaker 2: So now he can't run.
Speaker 1: Aggressively as he normally would because he's thinking about securing
Speaker 1: the football. You're at your best when you're just free.
Speaker 1: O Jo is just running his ride. He running that
Speaker 1: speed out, o Jo. That left foot gonna hit at ten,
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw it, he gonna ro hey. He knows
Speaker 1: when he comes out of that break one two that
Speaker 1: bought a bow. He already knows. I'm hit at ten.
Speaker 1: I'm a roll to twelve. When that right foot hit
Speaker 1: on that deg route and I'm on the right side,
Speaker 1: I'm driving back downhill.
Speaker 2: I already know that.
Speaker 1: But I can't be thinking about because what happens is
Speaker 1: it sold out. You have a couple of drops. Now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you apprehensive. You tried to buy
Speaker 1: the can you try to buy you you ain't fluid.
Speaker 1: You're trying to body catch it.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you running with the football, You're like you
Speaker 1: got both heads around it. You can't you kick how
Speaker 1: you juking somebody like that?
Speaker 2: You need to have the ball.
Speaker 1: Ah. So they put doubt in his mind because they
Speaker 1: had those fumbles last year, specially against Buffy.
Speaker 4: Oh hey, remember that said on the show Uk he
Speaker 4: funded because he got them what on his arms?
Speaker 5: Oh those sleeves, sleeves next game, sleeves was gone, Joe.
Speaker 4: You got you got to be able to fall feel
Speaker 4: that ball on your skin when you wear them long
Speaker 4: sleeve Joe, like.
Speaker 5: Like the hoop as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: You can't feel the ball. You've got to be able
Speaker 5: to feel that ball. Somebody punched it the right way.
Speaker 5: You got to have that skin, skin, the leather on.
Speaker 5: You got to have that skin, the leather contact.
Speaker 1: But I considering that Minnesota has knocked Differ out a
Speaker 1: couple of years of the playoffs and with really just
Speaker 1: add now Jay McDaniels has been out of his mind.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about the Nuggets, Joe.
Speaker 1: And then they found something in the They found something
Speaker 1: in those guys, But I don't know what it is
Speaker 1: about the Nuggets that he loves playing against the Nuggets.
Speaker 6: He hey, and he gives a Murray a fit. Hey,
Speaker 6: that's that's that's why he plays well. Let me tell
Speaker 6: you something. When you got a guy who's known for
Speaker 6: defense and he can score, he's a pretty good offensive
Speaker 6: guy too. See him having the guard Murray. It fuels
Speaker 6: his offense because you know, you play good defense, you're
Speaker 6: in good spirits, so you're playing the right way. Boom
Speaker 6: that ball find you. You know, now you're able to
Speaker 6: make plays offensively, but defensively, he's so engaged that you know,
Speaker 6: it kind of fuels his offense and kind of gets
Speaker 6: him going to the point to where he dim he
Speaker 6: looks so good against the Nuggets. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 6: think the Nuggets want to see the Timberwards.
Speaker 2: No, damn more.
Speaker 1: He's like, I need to see I need to see
Speaker 1: the Nuggets about forty fifty games. I'm all star gives show.
Speaker 2: That's just that's that's how that rolls out. But I'm
Speaker 2: anxious to see a man he is.
Speaker 1: He is, you know, he's a pleasure to watch because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I don't give a
Speaker 1: damn the sport. It's still about entertainment. Oh Joe, you
Speaker 1: go to the sports, you go to a sporting events
Speaker 1: to what to be entertainment. Let me ask your question.
Speaker 1: If Jordan just laid the ball up, were you're gonna
Speaker 1: be just entertained. It was that tongue hanging out and
Speaker 1: he's fieway, Yeah, it was Magic Johnson doing this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that part. Yeah, that's why bigs.
Speaker 1: That's why it's hard to resonate with bigs unless you
Speaker 1: like shot breaking down the backboards.
Speaker 2: Everybody talking about.
Speaker 1: The most unstoppable shot that's ever been created in basketball
Speaker 1: is what the hook?
Speaker 2: That sky hook hook? And don't nobody get kareem created? Man?
Speaker 6: Ain't nobody want to see that? Ain't nobody even practicing
Speaker 6: the no more nobody practice?
Speaker 1: Of all the things you see people do the finger,
Speaker 1: the finger roll George Gerbin and Doc Fanger roll. You
Speaker 1: see him hanging in the air. They even tried to
Speaker 1: copy Steph Curry shooting the ball from distance. Ain't no,
Speaker 1: We're not one player. Have ever you when the last
Speaker 1: time you seen somebody throw a hook shot from eighteen
Speaker 1: feet like Koreean. Hey, that's a hard ass shot, though,
Speaker 1: Uncle Joe, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: To you, And that's probably why they don't want to
Speaker 4: do it. It would take long and affect something like
Speaker 4: that too.
Speaker 2: Korea.
Speaker 1: Say you think how long you think he telling him
Speaker 1: to work on that? He said, you make it seem
Speaker 1: like he just came to the leaguea keep it working
Speaker 1: on his whole career.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah so, And that's the thing. Jordan's not Jordan.
Speaker 2: He wasn't entertaining. He understood the entertainment value of it.
Speaker 2: When he started flying through the air, dunking over everybody.
Speaker 6: Which spreading his legs. Huh, you already know how the
Speaker 6: logo go man playing the jump man? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 6: he ain't.
Speaker 2: He dunking on everybody in the game.
Speaker 1: And when he came out there with that tongue hanging out,
Speaker 1: I said, Man, you're gonna bite your damn tongue.
Speaker 5: I'm surprised.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised he didn't have any issues he got with
Speaker 4: somebody hit him out there or heat him while his
Speaker 4: tongue was out.
Speaker 1: If if the if the Knicks didn't do it, and
Speaker 1: the heat didn't do it, and the Pistons wouldn't nobody
Speaker 1: else gonna do it because they were the most physical.
Speaker 1: Don't hey, but don't sleep on the Boston Celtics. Now,
Speaker 1: people don't people don't look at it because they look
Speaker 1: at Michale and they look at Parish and they look
Speaker 1: at Bird.
Speaker 2: They don't think they were physical. But they had a
Speaker 2: super team.
Speaker 1: Sh everybody, all of them had to The Lakers and
Speaker 1: the Celtics had a super team. But super teams are okay, Joe,
Speaker 1: if you build it, that's what I that's what I
Speaker 1: learned to notice. As long as you build it. But
Speaker 1: you do realize the Celtics did not draft Robert Parrish.
Speaker 1: They traded him for Joe Barren Chal and the right
Speaker 1: to the number one pick. So they traded. That's how
Speaker 1: they got Kevin McHale and Robber Parish. They didn't draft
Speaker 1: Dennis Johnson, they didn't draft Nate aren't you ba. A
Speaker 1: lot of the players that they got they didn't draft.
Speaker 1: But that's okay. That before he back there and look
Speaker 1: at the Lakers. They didn't draft Kareem they drafted Magic,
Speaker 1: they didn't draft Bob McAdoo. But look, if I like you,
Speaker 1: I'll make excuses. And you know what I'm saying, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I like what you do. If I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: give a damn what you do. You can find a
Speaker 1: cure for cancer. Screw you, you ain't. You ain't cured diabetes.
Speaker 1: Oh you find a cure for cancer, but you ain't
Speaker 1: cure diabetes. What you gonna do by that, Joe? If
Speaker 1: you so good at medicine, but you do how I go?
Speaker 1: But no, I think this is a man.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: The clothes he gonna come is to the Lakers or
Speaker 1: the Clippers. See if I gotta hear a t I
Speaker 1: know you watch it because you watch all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come see at man play when they come,
Speaker 1: when they go play the Clippers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I want what we are. Will hear
Speaker 2: the ass up? Oh yeah? Uh?
Speaker 6: Minnesota gonna be fun to watch this year. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 6: they're gonna be fun to watch. They still gonna I
Speaker 6: still think they're gonna be a top They're gonna be
Speaker 6: a top five team in the East, I mean West,
Speaker 6: top five sure, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And if as stay healthy, they they might be top four,
Speaker 1: could be, could be if you can stay healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah,