Bonus: The Watches of Armin Strom – Claude Greisler (Co-founder & Master Watchmaker) – Episode 86

We're on summer hours, but we wanted to keep something in your feed as much as we can — so this one comes from our Watches Of podcast, a conversation Gabe recorded in person with Claude Greisler of Armin Strom. Claude is one of the brand's two modern co-founders and its master watchmaker, and he made the trip out to Los Angeles for Open House, where a full spread of the Armin Strom collection was on the tables. Before the watches, the two sat down for a wide-ranging talk about how he got here.

Claude's path is what makes this one worth your time. He grew up in a family of watchmakers, trained for the better part of a decade across Swiss watchmaking, restoration, and movement construction, and cut his teeth on high complications at Christophe Claret. But unlike so many of his peers, he never put his own name on a dial. Instead, with his childhood friend Serge Michel, he took over Armin Strom: a legendary local watchmaker whose vision was a single, clear idea — the movement should be the star of the watch. That conviction is the spine of the conversation, from the decision to become a true in-house manufacturer to the brand's signature complications and its philosophy of transparent mechanics.

This is also, at heart, an Openwork episode. What we keep coming back to on this show is the power of a clear, strong brand identity, and Armin Strom is a near-perfect case study: a watchmaker who walked away from the obvious move to inherit a brand with a reason for being, then re-engineered it from scratch. Along the way, Claude demystifies resonance — what it actually is, and why Armin Strom's approach to it is so distinct — using a couple of analogies that made it click for Gabe, and probably will for you too. We'll be back next week with a regularly scheduled episode.

Openwork is a weekly podcast about how the watch industry actually works. An unfiltered look behind the scenes — no press releases, no hype, and no sponsored takes. Hosted by Asher Rapkin and Gabe Reilly, co-founders of Collective Horology. Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, or wherever you get your podcasts.

You can find us online at collectivehorology.com. To get in touch with suggestions, feedback or questions, email podcast@collectivehorology.com.

Hey, it's Gabe now. I know we said we're doing summer hours

But we want to give you something to listen to every week as much as we possibly can so this week

We're doing a bonus episode. It's a recording of a conversation a podcast episode

I actually did for our watches of podcast, but it's a recording we did in person with Claude

Greisler of Armand Strom now Claude is one of the two modern co-founders of the brand and

The master watchmaker at the brand and when he came out to Los Angeles for our open house event

He and I sat down for a pretty far-ranging

Conversation on his background and training as a watchmaker and we of course talked all about

Armand Strom's approach to watchmaking and their signature

watches and complications whether that is

Constant force watches or resonance watches, which they're of course very famous for but one of the things that we talked about

I think is really relevant to open work and one of the things that we talk about all the time on this podcast

Which is the importance of having a very clear and strong brand?

Identity now in the case of Claude Greisler. What's so fascinating is here's someone who came up through

watchmaking school and training apprenticeships and of course then struck out on his own as a watchmaker, but unlike most

Independent watchmakers. He didn't strike out under his own name or his own brand like so many of his

Peers did there's no Claude Greisler

watch brand

Instead what he did together with his childhood friend Serge Michel was take over Armand Strom now Armand Strom

Was a watchmaker a man a master watchmaker

Himself and Claude and Serge actually grew up in the town where mr

Armand Strom's workshop was and so when the time came for Claude to strike out on his own

He decided together with Serge to take over. Mr. Armand Strom's

Workshop and it wasn't just because mr. Armand Strom was from their same town

It's because they saw the potential in the brand

They saw that the brand had a very clear potential and a very clear identity

Which was to make watches around a very clear and simple idea

Which is that the movement should be the star of the watch when you look at any of Armand Strom's watches today

That vision is crystal clear

so I think this is an interesting discussion with someone who decided to go a different direction as an independent watchmaker and

Went that separate direction because of the opportunity to pursue something that had a clear reason for being so in any event

Take a listen. We also talk a great deal about

Resonance and Armand Strom's approach to resonance and how it works

This is really helpful and educational for me and sort of demystifying and breaking down what resonance

Watches are and how Armand Strom has a very unique and really kind of a fascinating approach to doing it

so have a listen my conversation with Claude Greisler of Armand Strom from the watches of

Podcast and we'll be back next week with a regularly scheduled episode of open work

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Well today, it's the watches of Armand Strom and Asher is not here even better than Asher

We've got Claude Greisler

Co-founder and master watchmaker at Armand Strom, you know of all of the cool job titles out there

astronaut

Brewmaster and master watchmaker. I think are the top three. How'd you get a job title like that?

Well, I mean, it's thanks to my position at Armand Strom because I was the first guy

Working at the manufacturing but first of all, thank you for coming all the way to Los Angeles to record in person with us

It's an absolute treat. And of course, you're here for our open house event tomorrow

Where people will be able to go hands-on with your watches a full spread of the Armand Strom

collection including some

absolutely wild horological

Masterpieces before we get into Armand Strom the man and the watch brand

I want to talk about you and your training as a watchmaker because

Before you were ever master watchmaker at Armand Strom you of course studied as a watchmaker you grew up in a family of

Watchmakers and you you've done a lot of impressive work as a watchmaker before starting this brand

So, can you take us through your background as a watchmaker? Of course. Yeah with pleasure

So as you mentioned I started I became a watchmaker

Thanks to my grandma because my grandmom

Started to become a watchmaker during the Second World War when she started to assemble her stopwatches

That she was so proud of what she did when we were young kids. She trained us to assemble and disassemble

Movements, so it was more like a funny thing for us to do that, but I always was so fascinated by doing that

So when I when I ended up my school, I graduated as a watchmaker. This is a four-year

Education in in the Swiss German watchmaking school. I'm Swiss German originally same school then the Felix Baumgartner

Did Andrea Strehler did that school? So there are a few let's say famous watchmakers

But that's a four years education and after getting my first degree in watchmaking

I was think still curious about learning more and and there was a school in the in the French part of Switzerland

Where you can study watch restoration and like complicated timepieces. It's called

master in watch restoration and high-end watchmaking and

Basically, this is another two and a half years where you get into vintage watches

But also everything which is you don't get trained as a basic watchmaker like perpetual calendars

detent escapements tourbillons

All the the fancy cool stuff you could basically trained as as an expert to how to assemble and disassemble

those complications and

after that degree it was it was but you are focusing that degree is a little bit focusing on watch restoration as well and

During that education. I I was

Doing 3d drawings at home because I somehow felt in love with it with doing 3d

3d drawings like drawing my own movements throwing my own stuff and I realized there's another education which I can do

So I took another degree

Became an expert in watch construction basically developing watches from scratch

And this was in total was like eight and a half years

How many years of studying was eight and a half years, yeah, you're practically a doctor

With this incredible education, what do you end up doing professionally? Where do you go from there from there?

I had the opportunity. So the these educations were my my degrees

They were in Leloc which is close to La Chaux-de-Fonds and the local there was two famous

Brands at the two famous companies at that time. There was Renault Papi. Mm-hmm, and there was Christophe Claret

Applied to both of those companies because they were like the dream companies

there were the guys doing minute repeat tourbillons and

I got I got the opportunity to work with Christophe Christophe Claret

So Dominique Renault and Giulio Papi didn't give you a job. They gave or you had your choice

Actually, I had I was there at the end. I had the choice of to which one I could go and

Claret had a very cool project. So it was a very easy conversation with him. He said like, okay, we have a it was a

Tourbillon orbital

for Chandon and that was a tourbillon which flow that the tourbillon cage was basically the the minute indicator and

And he told me like, okay, this is like the first project which you're gonna work on

So as a young engineer, I said like, okay, no pressure. No, no pressure, but it's cool. It's cool

I mean, he gives me a full a full development

Project a movement where they had an idea

They had the design but they didn't have the technique for that movement that this was my first project

So that was very very cool and very very fascinated for me to really get into that high-end watchmaking world

That's crazy. I mean, I can't imagine having job offers like that on the table in a first project like that

Ultimately like a lot of watchmakers. I mean you you mentioned for instance Felix Baumgartner and Andreas trailer

They go on to start their own brands in the case of Andreas trailer

It's still obviously does a lot of work on movements and consulting work for all the other brands, but he has his own brand

Andreas trailer so many watchmakers who end up striking out on their own

Do so with their put by putting their own name on the dial Dominique Renault is another great example

But you decide instead you're not going to start Claude Griesler

We're gonna you're going to take on and take over for mr

Armin Strom himself a legendary watchmaker in in Switzerland

What was your I guess? What was the decision to?

Take on Armin Strom versus doing something under your own name

But first we are I grew up in a little town near the capital of Switzerland near Bern

The town is called Borkdorf and mr. Armin Strom is out of that town. Mr

Armin Strom was a bit a legend in our village village where we have more cows than people living

But mr. Armin Strom was the guy driving a red Jaguar e-type

All right, and there were some rumors that every watch he's doing is hand-delivered

So he was literally taking his car early in the morning

Drove the car to Paris took the Concorde to New York hand-delivered the watch took the same plane back to Paris and

Had dinner with his wife on the same day

so he was somehow he was famous in our in our village and

he got even more famous when he collaborated with Omega for it for it for the for the skeleton watches and

So there was I have a childhood friend Serge and Serge

It was basically a search idea to take over the brand from mr

Armin Strom because they were picking up a watch together with his father. They were picking up a watch from Armin Strom

they ordered a skeletonized custom piece and

Armin Strom was just like started to speak about yeah

I'm getting older and I should consider of like maybe handling my business over to someone and and Serge didn't this make click for

Serge Serge said okay. Look, I mean if someone should take over that brand

It should mean should be me and my and my friend Claude because Claude is the watch expert

I'm watch collector that why should we do not together?

Take over our local heritage of watchmaking and write a new chapter for the brand

What was the potential you saw in the brand? I mean when everyone starts out on it on a

New business or a new venture like this. They do so not just because of good feelings and you know, I mean look mr

Armstrong sounds like he was a very cool dude

But you had to see potential in the brand and and in the business as a watchmaker

Like what what was it about Armin Strom as a brand that got you excited and made you say?

Yeah, I want to start my next chapter here. And and what was the potential that you saw?

Well, the potential was his philosophy. I mean, mr

Armin Strom was doing hand skeletonized watches and he had the vision of

That the movement should not be covered with the dial that the movement should always be the star of the watch and

the the the early watchmakers who produced hand skeletonized watches were the first watchmakers who were really focusing on hand

finishing because when you remove the dial on the wristwatch and

The movement becomes a star hand finishing is extremely required. It's required

Yeah, so that means you do you do not just open up by a saw and a file

The the material which is not necessary for the function, but you also try to create the wonderful

Movement and the watch parts you start to polish them

You start to to bevel the edges to make sure that the movement is as beautiful or even more beautiful

Than than a dial because most of the watch my brands

they put a lot of effort in the dial because the dial is what's visible from the front side and

They also put effort in the movement, but it's not the same philosophy

Then when you remove the dial and you say hey

the heart is the star the movement is the star of the watch and this philosophy of

Having the movement as a star and focusing on hand finishing which was was driving us to take over the brand from mr

Armin Strom in the first vision of

Doing hand skeletonized watches that was when we took over the brand

We were not considering becoming a movement manufacturer in the first year when we took over the brand

It was more like okay hand skeletonization is very cool because we couldn't imagine

Ourself creating a movement manufacturer. This was like it felt like a big dream

Maybe one day but for for us was the when we took over the brand it was more like, okay

Let's do the first steps and become a watch producer

You know, we have to learn how to where to get your cases from where to get the hands where who is supplying the movements

Train watchmaker on skeletonization. So that was our very first

Idea when when when we agreed of taking over the brand, but then everything

Changed in a very very short period of time. Yeah, it's interesting a lot of independent brands these days really pride themselves

I think this is a good thing on their suppliers

One brand who comes to mind is like traffic for instance or max booster and be enough

They're very transparent and which I think is good about who supplies all the various components of their watches

They are proud of it and they love to show what their suppliers are capable of for Armin Strom

You do work with outside suppliers on on on some things

But you've made a huge point particularly with the movements and the movements to your point are so much of the watch

To be an in-house manufacturer and produce most of your components in-house

Was that really out of pride?

Or was that out of?

Something that was necessary to fulfill a creative or a watchmaking vision you have like what what compelled you because it's not cheap

To invest in that way and it's quite unusual in the in into even an independent watchmaking to be a true

In-house manufacturer why do it?

I think the reason was because when when I started to skeletonize the first watch like it was a vintage caliber. I

realized that you know the

Everything watch the watch the the the engineering offers today

How a watch movement can be engineered is so much ahead of what watchmakers have done 50 or 60 years ago

So for me, it felt somehow wrong to skeletonize a movement and as an engineer, you know

When you disassemble a watch movement and you see how the parts were made 60 years ago

And I still had in mind what I did for Claret and so I said I I told Serge we have to we have to change

things because

For me, it feels somehow wrong just to skeletonize like old movements. They have a very short power reserve

The balance with the accuracy is not there where it should be. So let's let's do things, right and

Let's create a

Manufactory to be able to not even not only influence the the quality of the movement when it comes to finishing

but also the quality when it comes to

engineering and what we offer as a whole package of a watch movement because the movement is the star and

let's do things right from scratch instead of

Taking over the brand and and start to do produce a hand skeletonized watches

Let's do things right and write a new chapter for that brand because chapter one was mr

Armin Strom with this particular style of how he skeletonized

This is the reason why Omega hired him because he had a particular style of how he skeletonized

Movements and we realized that it was it felt somehow wrong to copy his style

Instead of when we have the opportunity to take over the philosophy and become a movement manufacturer and as you mentioned

We definitely need it's a big investment but on the other hand it was 2009 and the market was down the

Machinery industry was in a very very bad a situation in Switzerland

So that means they basically offered me if I buy a 3x CNC machine

To do the main plate and bridges. They offered me a wire erosion

They said like, okay if you take from our brand the milling machine you get a wire erosion for free Wow because they had so many

Machines lining up. There's so many cancellation because it was financial crisis. Yeah, so the same thing was with real estates

I mean nobody wanted to invest in in in a factory and there was this little factory in B

Which was owned by Rolex and Rolex moved to the to the to the campus and there was like this building was free for

Several years and nobody was the market was down for us. It was the perfect moment

We was also a risk at the other hand

But we were young and we were so much believing that this will work out one day

So we said, okay now let's do let's do things, right?

And it was thanks to Sarah's father that we that we were able to invest like but it was a very small

Investment at the beginning because it was me. I did milling

I did decoration on the movements. I was assembling. We had a one watchmaker. She was with us

We had one hand engraver

She was like working for Armistron with the engravings and this was a small team where we were actually started to

produce the first parts

One of the ways you guys describe your watches is not

Skeletonized so much as transparent mechanics that those are words that I'm borrowing from

From you and I think that's a much better way of describing what you're doing. You could certainly argue what mr

Armstrong was doing was hand skeletonization many other brands today still do

skeletonization and it typically starts generally with

There is something we have a watch or movement that was not designed to be skeletonized that we're opening up and that's an inherently

compromised approach because

You're taking something that was developed one way and and sort of forcing it in another direction versus what you guys do which is design

Everything from the ground up to be transparent and to be open and in particular what?

What's so fascinating is?

It's intentional. There's always an idea behind it and let's start with gravity equal force because just as

Important as

The transparent mechanics are is also the name of the watch and those things work together. So in the gravity equal force

I'm wearing a collaboration. We did a few years ago on the gravity equal force

You have gravity and equal force in the name and you have gravity and you have equal force

Visible on the dial side of the watch

So tell us a little bit about this idea of transparent mechanics this philosophy and how it comes to life as an example

in the gravity equal force

Yeah, as you mentioned

I mean first we have to understand this is two ways of how you how you engineer movement most of the time the design team

Creates a wonderful looking watch they create a case

they create the dial hands a strap and a class and then basically the engineer has to

Create the movement which allows the watch to give the information that the designer needs

To have on the dial so where they have the hands where they have the date window or whatever they want moon phase, etc

Versus in Armistrom. It's it's a completely different approach. We

Want to create the movement. Let's say the gravity equal force. So we say okay

It should be automatic winding and we want to have a better torque control because with long power reserve

There's always a problem that you have a very weak section at the beginning and there's a little bit too much energy at the end

So there is like the there is some solutions which do that job never got combined with the automatic winding watch

so this is what okay, let's

Create a new automatic winding watch and then we said okay micro rotor or like a regular rotor

micro rotor fixed a little bit more to our

Philosophy because the the big rotor would cover half of the movement and when you spend hours and hours doing hand finishing

That's not what it's supposed to do so we said okay micro rotor, of course, yes, we're going to go for micro rotor and

we have to find a way of delivering a more equal work equal force to the gear train and

Then once the first elements were brought together

We were thinking about okay. How can we how can we build that watch?

To where should we where should we put the elements that they become part of the design, you know?

It's a little bit form follows function. It's a bit. Okay. Where do I put sure?

So we have a balance between the micro rotor the barrel and the off-center dial. Yes, because okay

Let's put them or how do we put them in a line?

So we create a triangular design and this was the first I look at there's three

Particular elements micro to barrel and the time display and then everything else is like, okay

How should we bring bridges and the sign of bridges before the sign of the main plate together to hold the micro to to hold?

the barrel in place and

Yeah, this is how we how we design. It's richly. It's like we try we design we put things together and

If the whole thing is designed kind of

Holistically as the entire watch is a complete thoughts not just about well

How does the dial look in the case and the movement these things are thought of together?

It's an integrated idea that comes to life. And of course you have this transparent on the dial side

So if you look at the dial, of course, you see the time that's always helpful. But then you do see gravity

So you see the micro rotor and you see equal force. You see the mainspring barrel with by the way

I think the coolest Easter egg in all of watchmaking is on the gravity equal force and it is the power reserve

Mainspring barrel so you have a

Complete idea for watch you have a name for watch and when you look at the watch you see in that order gravity and equal

Force, so it's a it's a complete idea

And what I think is so interesting when I think about

Your watches the full collection of arm and strong watches of which we have several here

I think of them in two groups

One group are your sort of constant force or your equal force watches and those are the things in the system 78

collection, of course the gravity equal force

The one week the orbit those those watches all have that that equal force

Mechanism in them and what's so interesting is like for a lot of brands constant force

Watches have been like a thing to aspire to and achieve and you just do that and that's enough

But for for you, it's like that's where things start like the table stakes the most basic level of watchmaking you can get from arm

and strong

Starts with equal force, which is which is so cool. It's not the crazy wild thing. You're aspiring to it's the that's the base

The next area of watches of watchmaking in the next kind of camp or group

I think of for arm and strong or your resonance watches and there are quite a few now including some including some new

Additions now you guys have a unique approach to how you handle

Resonance so could you explain a little bit about how your resonance?

Watches, maybe differ from other resonance pieces that are available because it you have a very

Fascinating engineering solution to resonance. Exactly

So first of all what we have to understand in resonance

Every resonance watch is supposed to have two independent movements

And the goal of resonance is to amplify the frequency

To synchronize the frequency of the two balance wheels to make the frequency more

Reliable and more resistant. That's the

Basic idea which this got discovered by Christian Huygens with clocks when he invented the pendulum

He saw how two pendulums started to synchronize each other and he was so he already described that phenomenon of synchronization

So there was a lot of famous watchmakers worked on

Resonance

Auntie Jean Vier a famous French clockmaker on the double pendulum clock

We had Abraham Louis Breguet on pocket watches and we have a François Bourjour who realized the first

Wrist watch with a resonance movement. So all those resonance watches have one thing in common. We share

Vibrations from one oscillator to the other. It doesn't matter if it's a pendulum or a balance wheel

But somehow and this is what we know from physics

They have to be able to share their vibrations to get synchronized. Synchronized

Yep

So now they must be synchro having two escapements isn't enough because there are watches that have two escapements and maybe they have a differential

to sort of average the the the rate of those two escapements but

Resonance requires them to be in sync. Otherwise, it's not the resonance watch

There are a lot of watches uses two escapement two balance wheels

But but if they if they do not synchronize each other if they don't start to influence each other

It's not a resonance watch. Yes, it's not easy to do. It's not easy

It's it's it's a very very difficult thing to do

so

It doesn't matter if it was Abraham Louis Breguet or Auntie Jean Vier or Armie Jerome or any other brand who is doing a resonance

Well, there are not too many

We share vibrations from one balance wheel to the other and we learned from Abraham Louis Breguet in his book

Which was written by George Daniels. Yes that it was it is the he was he did a lot of tests in vacuum

We did the same thing in vacuum with airspeed

So so on so on to understand how the two balance wheels start to influence each other

So the traditional movement approach the vibrations they go through main plate and bridges

And what I realized when I when I since I'm a

Watch engineer. I realized that the transmission via solid plates and bridges is not an optimum

Transmission they do transmit vibrations

But there are elements which are much more

Precise to transmit vibrations. Let's say flexible suspension elements which are used in aerospace technology

They are supposed to transmit vibrations and what we did and we had this idea and this vision of okay

How could we improve that transmission of vibrations?

And we had a very basic and basically we had a wire between two

start the start is the element which is at the end of the hairspring the hairspring sits on top of the balance wheel and

We basically what we did we said, okay

Why should the transmission go through the main plate and bridges if they could somehow?

Communicate bed in a better way in between them and we started to put the wire in between the two studs realized that it worked

But it didn't work properly. So we said, okay should that wire become maybe a spring spring? How should that spring?

How should that be shaped and it took us about three years to to find a way?

How and it was trial and error. It's it's like as a watchmaker. We are we get trained to

to to apply

Existing technologies. This is why for in the watch world. Sometimes it's a bit difficult or a lot of watchmakers

struggle by being open to innovation

So because we are not used to reinvent things

We are more used to apply traditional existing mechanisms that explains a lot about the watch industry

So we said, okay, I'm I'm Abraham. Louis Breguet is one of the is one of the greatest watchmakers ever

Breguet never looked into the past. Breguet was always looking in front of him and he said, okay

I gonna beat my competitors and this is a bit our this is a bit my philosophy as an engineer. I

Respect tradition by doing hand decoration. But on the other hand, I don't want to do things which are already done

If we start a new watch movement, we ask ourself and I push my team today. I have a team

I push the guys and I said, okay, was it done already?

Okay, is it can we do better if there's no room to do it?

But it doesn't make sense to to copy what other brands did

We have to find a way and this is why all our watches as you mentioned doesn't matter if it's system 78 or resonance

They offer something something special and our resonance is basically it's the same resonance

Concept and then all the other resonance watches

It's a cheap and it just performs in a much better much more efficient way. It's visually you can see it

You can see what happens because that built for purpose suspension

Element the spring which moves back and forth is a mechanical connection. Yes

any other

Resonance watch needs a mechanical connection

Yeah, without connection be a main plate or it could be a spring. Yes. No, and this is this is so it's is it different?

Yes, it's different because it's much better performing with this flexible element

Is it inspired by the traditional resonance? Yes, it's hardly inspired by the traditional

Resonance this gives the watch the reason why it is a resonance watch because it's inspired by what was done in the past

But it was re-engineered

To get a much better performance out of it and the geometry of that spring is just cool

Yeah, so here here's a and a metaphor for this and you tell me if this holds up when I was trying to understand

How you could achieve resonance more efficiently and the approach you've taken and imagine for a second

We have two children on a swing set and they're swinging out of sync with one another

So as one child goes forward, the other child is going backwards and we want to bring the two swings into resonance

We want the kids to end up swinging together not going in opposite directions

But one way we might do that is to tie a rope

Between each of the swing sets and eventually over time the rope will help the two children on the swing sets

Swing together and resonance now, it's a very basic and very crude

Comparison to what you've done here

But helpful, you know for the less mechanically inclined that may help people to understand how you can introduce a mechanism

between the two

Escapements that would allow them to achieve

Resonance more efficiently than other methods exactly or if we wanna if we walk over a bridge

The two of us and we try to keep in resonance

We try to our goal is to keep this an equal speed from one end to the other

so the goal is when we do that together and we're synchronized and

You're gonna be tired or you want to speed up or slow down if we are synchronized

We both gonna achieve a more consistent way to cross that bridge

It's the bridge made out of concrete

It's very difficult that we get that we start to influence each other if it's a suspension bridge

We're gonna automatically

synchronize in between us so and once we keep

We are in sync because that's something everybody can imagine himself

If you walk on a suspension bridge with your friend and you are not in sync. It is just uncomfortable to walk

yeah, and

But once we're in sync our

Consistency is much much better than when we walk over a concrete bridge because we we gonna

We the two of us if you want to speed up or slow down

I gonna hold you and say okay. No. No now you're gonna get your slowly slowly

You're tired. So I feel that you're gonna you start to slow down your speed

But if you're on a suspension bridge and in physics, it's known as the share mode of motion

The third element is the most important element because the bridge itself

Creates its natural. Thanks to its natural frequency

Yeah creates a rhythm and this is what what happens in resonance basically

Going back to watchmaking that's exactly what we hope to achieve which is greater accuracy and that's done in

Resonance watches through resonance in gravity equal force and in your equal force watches

Through the mainspring barrel and the is it the stop work D clutch mechanism exact do I have that right?

Okay with the power reserve on the barrel still

I think the coolest thing in in all of watchmaking

So, of course, there's so much more to talk about with Armstrong. We'll have to have you back

Oh, hopefully you'll you'll be back next year. We can do this. We can do this again

But there you have it the philosophy and the approach and the watchmaking

Armstrong from the man Claude Chrysler himself Claude. Thank you for joining

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