Property Developer Show - The Podcast

What does it really take to be successful in property? Chris Kirkwood has seen the answer play out hundreds of times. Chris has been investing for around 15 years, starting with buy-to-lets in Salford before moving into rent-to-rent and, more recently, new build development. He’s now Property Director at Sourced, the company behind a 300-strong property investment franchise network. Its franchisees source deals for investors or run their own projects, from flips and refurbs to HMOs, commercial conversions and new builds, with Sourced supporting them over a five-year agreement.

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

📱 Property Developer Show:
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00:00 Coming up
00:17 Inside Sourced
02:38 What makes people successful 
07:55 Commercial Property Expo
08:36 The secret to actually getting started
20:07 Why most developers have no long-term plan
25:00 Chris’s key to success 
28:25 What makes people quit
31:03 The Annual Property Shoot
31:32 Property Developer Buying Club
32:17 How to get around the right people 
37:08 15 years of investing: never trust anyone
42:52 Forget your goals: how to set them properly 
46:55 How to reach out to Chris

Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on investment strategies for individuals or organisations. It is recommended that all investment decisions be approache

In 1989, a 19-year-old Kam Dovedi signed on the dotted line for a family member’s mortgage. Then the market crashed, interest rates soared and he found himself in negative equity, two weeks from repossession. 36 years later, Kam is one of the UK’s most experienced property investors and developers. With nearly 1,000 deals under his belt across buy-to-let, HMOs, semi-commercial and development schemes. Around 80% of his time goes on investing and developing, and the rest on training the next generation of property investors.

In this episode, Kam reveals how his first development went wrong in every way possible, walks through his current deals with the real numbers, explains how to spot a fake property guru, and makes the case for buy-to-let 2.0 as the strategy to focus on now.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow



00:00 Coming up
00:17 What makes someone successful in property?
04:36 Commercial Property Expo
05:34 How do you adapt to changing property environments?
12:14 How do you keep a level-head
18:02 The one question that exposes fake gurus
19:51 Best deal you’ve ever done
28:08 What drives you now?
30:18 Annual Property Shoot
30:46 Property Developer Buying Club
31:27 Scaling like a billionaire, not a gambler
42:27Buy-to-Let 2.0? 
45:22 How to get in touch

Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on investment st

Jess Cleary dropped out of uni at 21 and has since built a multi-million pound property business as well as a marketing agency. 

We get into how she balances a trading business with a property business and why property isn't a cashflow business. We cover the burnout that nearly made her quit and the hate she receives online. If you're young, ambitious and wondering whether to take the leap into property, this one's for you.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🎟️ Annual Property Shoot is taking place on Friday 4th December in Derbyshire countryside, don't miss out: https://portal.propertydevelopershow....

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-... 


📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow

Contact Jess:
https://www.instagram.com/jessdevelopss/?hl=en


00:00 Coming up
00:12 Getting into property from ground zero
05:31 Property Developer Show 
06:04 Commercial Property Expo
06:45 The secret recipe to good content
14:45 Running a marketing agency and a property business
18:02 The sacrifice no one sees
30:44 Hustle culture
36:28 Annual Property Shoot
36:56 Property Developer Buying Club
37:42 The neighbour who stopped a HMO build
45:22 Advice for your 21 year old self
54:52 Where to find Jess

Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on investment strategies for individuals or organisations. It is recommended that all investment decisions be approached with caution under the supervision of professi

Eight years ago Leon Hart was working at Euro Car Parts, driving to Manchester after his shift for viewings and sleeping on horrible mattresses at weekends so he and his brother Kyle could paint student houses.

Now the Hart brothers develop and own HMOs across the North West and fund them with private investor money. In this episode Leon explains how he got out of rent-to-rent, the daily posting habit that raised investor finance on and why he actually welcomes Article 4. He also talks honestly about the other side of it: £1.5m of bridging loans.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🎟️ Annual Property Shoot is taking place on Friday 4th December in Derbyshire countryside, don't miss out: https://portal.propertydevelopershow.co.uk/annual-property-shoot.php

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 


📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow


00:00 Coming up
00:16 How he broke out of rent-to-rent
08:21 Property Developer Show
08:53 Commercial Property Expo
09:17 Why you need to be a bit delusional 
11:02 How do you create that drive
17:45 What’s the secret to raising finance
21:53 £350k from 2 messages
27:10 The HMO that collapsed into the road
30:11 Annual Property Shoot
Property Developer Buying Club
31:40 Are HMOs a strong model?
36:10 Advice to move from rent to rent to investing
38:12 How to get in touch 

Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on investment strategies for individuals o

Jack Johnson is Head of Land at TerraQuest and National Planning Portal, the platform through which virtually most planning applications in England and Wales is submitted. With a front-row seat to the data behind UK development, Jack sees what most developers don't: what's actually being submitted, where money is flowing, and what's separating the developers who are thriving from those who are treading water.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

TerraQuest: Find and assess land using exclusive data from national planning portal: https://www.terraquest.co.uk/

📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow

Contact Jack:
https://linkedin.com/in/jack-johnson-515a0333/
https://www.terraquest.co.uk/

00:00 Coming up
00:22 What are you seeing at the front line of UK development 
03:20 Energy, data centres & where the big money is moving
07:51 Property Developer Show
08:23 Commercial Property Expo
09:04 Planning Portal data: pre-covid vs now
15:26 How to make sites viable when margins have nearly disappeared 
21:47 What makes successful SME developers
28:50 TerraQuest 
26:17 PDBC
27:02 Pipeline thinking: why most developers get this wrong
33:55 Build costs and viability 
36:54 Modular build, prefab & the future of construction in the UK
41:17 How to use TerraQuest for land sourcing and reach out to Jack


Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on investment

Ian Morton has spent 48 years in and around property, making him one of the most experienced voices in the UK development space. Specialising in heritage sites, Grade I and Grade II listed buildings, Ian has converted everything from Georgian merchant houses and country estates to schools, churches and a canal barge placed on a roundabout in Leeds. His apart-hotel Claremont in Leeds and the 7-year, three-phase conversion of Marske Hall in the Yorkshire Dales National Park stand as testaments to what's possible when vision, patience and deep expertise meet the right building.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow

Contact Ian:
https://linktr.ee/EliteMentoringGuild
https://guildacademy.co.uk/

00:00 Coming up
00:19 Heritage sites & why Ian loves them
01:44 Lessons from 48 years in the industry 
04:10 Advice for your younger self
06:51 Property Developer Show
07:23 Commercial Property Expo
08:06 The canal boat on a roundabout 
12:08 What separates successful developers 
17:03 Claremont aparthotel 
20:25 Biggest lessons of Ian’s career / Marske Hall 
23:15 The Elite Mentoring Guild 
27/28: COVID, Brexit & rising costs
Property Developer Buying Club
36:32 34:49 How to price heritage projects 
336:41 Building regs with listed buildings 
45:19 How to get in touch with Ian

Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on in

Dan Cheetham is a property trader and investor who, in just 12 months, has completed 23 property deals. His approach? Buying stock that shouldn't be in auction in the first place, no heavy refurbs, no complicated developments, just smart buying, solid fundamentals, and an obsession with purchase price.

Dan shares what it actually took to build that pipeline from a near-standing start. We get into his auction model in detail, how he prices risk on properties he's never seen and why he walked away from buy-to-let. If you want to learn about property trading, this is a must listen.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

TerraQuest: Find and assess land using exclusive data from national planning portal: https://www.terraquest.co.uk/

📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow


00:00 Coming up
00:15 How Dan built 23 deals in 12 months
04:21 Property Developer Show
04:57 Commercial Property Expo
05:37 The auction trading model
11:28 How Dan finds and analyses deals
15:03 The mindset shift from buy-to-let to trading
20:42 Ego, comparison, and staying in your lane
26:59 TerraQuest
27:26 Property Developer Buying Club
28:11 Why success is just doing boring things repeatedly
36:38 Advice if you want to start trading property
37:33 How to get in touch with Dan

Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on investment strategies for individuals or organisations. It is recom

Richard Eyre is a property and business specialist with over 30 years of entrepreneurial experience across 7 different industries. He's the founder of The Key Club, an education and community platform for property investors and business owners, as well as a driving force behind the Property Entrepreneur Summit, which brings together 300-400 delegates annually. Rich has become one of the most honest and practical voices in the UK property and business space.

Rich breaks down the foundational financial knowledge every property investor needs before they buy their first deal. We get into the real costs of hiring abroad, how to build remote teams that actually work, the diary management and AI systems Rich is using to run his businesses at scale. We also go deep on motivation and identity and his belief that two very different economies are emerging for those who adopt AI and those who don't.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

TerraQuest: Find and assess land using exclusive data from national planning portal: https://www.terraquest.co.uk/

📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow

Contact Rich:
https://propertyandentrepreneursummit.co.uk/
https://linkedin.com/in/richard-eyre/

00:00 Coming up
00:25 The finance problem no-one talks about in property
04:39 Property Developer Show 
05:14 Commercial Property Expo
05:55 30 years in business
09:30  Foundational understandings of finance in business 
12:15 Hiring abroad - the foundational steps 
19:47 Diary management & running multiple businesses
21:07 AI 
41:55 TerraQuest 
42:16 Property Developer Buying Club
43:01 Goals, identity & what actually drives you

Steve Carnes is a property developer with over 30 years’ experience in the industry, having worked at Knight Frank and Savills, before moving into property development full-time. Since then, he’s delivered north of £1 billion in GDV across city centre conversions, tower buildings and large-scale mixed-use schemes.

In this episode, Steve pulls back the curtain on what large-scale development actually involves, from navigating complex planning processes and the challenges of developing in city centres, to how his materials increased by £2million overnight, why it can genuinely be easier to borrow £50 million than £5 million, his unfiltered take on Manchester versus London, and how he structures deals to protect against the risks most developers don’t see coming.

If you’ve ever wondered what separates developers working on 1-2bed strategies from those taking on major tower and mixed-use developments, this is the episode to listen to.

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

TerraQuest: Find and assess land using exclusive data from national planning portal: https://www.terraquest.co.uk/

📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow

Contact Steve:
https://www.meadwaydevelopments.co.uk/
https://instagram.com/meadwaydevelopments/
*Steve has since confirmed that the Chester development was renamed HQ Chester


00:00 Coming up
00:21 What does it take to be a successful property developer? 
01:46 Steve’s property journey 
08:05 Property Developer Show
08:40 Commercial Property Expo
09:20 What risk really looks like in large scale development
14:03 Over £1billion GDV
14:25  Favourite scheme to date  
17:24 Planni

Dion Ferra went from homeless at 17 to building a property portfolio, after working as a labourer and mechanic while running his own 500-client mechanic business.

Dion joins us for this special bonus episode of To The Point to answer seven quick-fire questions. From what he'd do if he were starting again today to how he learnt about property, this episode is packed with insights from an active SME property developer. 

To hear Dion’s full episode, head to https://youtu.be/xLFIt0xZMy8

🎟️ Join us live at the Property Developer Show as we tour different cities across the UK in 2026! Don’t miss out on this incredible opportunity to connect, learn, and grow within the property development community.
Register for free tickets at: https://propertydevelopershow.co.uk

🎟️ Commercial Property Expo is heading to Manchester on 4th November 2026! The UK's first must-attend event dedicated to the world of commercial real estate, investment, and development.
Grab your free ticket at: https://commercialpropertyexpo.co.uk/

🏡 Partner offers for property entrepreneurs:

PDBC: £50 off a 12-month membership: A dedicated discount club that gives property developers & landlords access to exclusive deals, discounts, and preferential rates on the products and services you use regularly. Use code: PDS to secure the discount: https://pdbc.uk/

GoHighLevel: 30-day free trial: Your all-in-one CRM and automation hub to manage deal pipelines, client communications, handle follow-ups and help you simplify your process: https://www.gohighlevel.com/property-developer-show 

📱 Property Developer Show:
https://instagram.com/propertydevelopershow/
https://tiktok.com/@propertydevelopershow
https://linkedin.com/company/property-developer-show
https://facebook.com/propertydevelopershow


00:00 Coming up
00:16 Property Developer Show 
00:51 Commercial Property Expo
01:31 If you were starting in property again today, what would you focus on?
02:57 How did you learn about property?
04:50 What is your favourite property strategy?
05:25 The best property or business books
05:46 Name 3 property people that inspire you 
07:06 What motivates you?
08:03 Your dream dinner party: 4 people, dead or alive 

Property Developer Show ©️ serves solely as a podcast platform. The perspectives and opinions presented by our guests, sponsors, and third-party contributors are independent and do not represent our own views, nor should they be considered as investment advice. We do not provide guidance on investment strategies for individuals or organisations. It is recommended that all investment decisions be approached with caution under the supervision of professional advice. Some episodes, descriptions, or related content may contain affiliate links. If you choose to use these links, Property Developer Show may earn a commission at no additional cost to you.