James Wood and Ted Williams, You Won't Believe This Comparison
Who looks like who? Jeff had quite the concert-going experience this week. The White Sox scored 10 runs in a single inning—how often are we seeing that in today's pitching era? And of course, the Phillies found another way to keep things interesting until the ninth inning.
Dansby Swanson, Kyle Schwarber, and Dylan Cease headline this week's Quirkjians. Plus, James Wood becomes the subject of a conversation thanks to a comparison to Ted Williams... sort of. We'll explain.
On This Date in Baseball History, we look back at Craig Biggio's incredible hit-by-pitch total, two cycles in the same week, and why Harmon Killebrew's name is as memorable as his career. Oh, and yes—Moonlight Graham was a real player.
Inspired by Moonlight Graham, Tim brings us a special Team Tim. You may not have heard this one on the show before, but you might remember it from his Twitter a few years ago. Then we spin the Wheel of Kurkjian for more fascinating stories and even a special guest appearance. Thanks for listening and as always, thanks for being a part of our family!
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Is This a Great Game?
Speaker 1: Or What with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm
Speaker 1: his son, Jeff Kirkshin. Dad, I had a late night
Speaker 1: last night, even though I have a two week old
Speaker 1: I was out at a concert for my country music
Speaker 1: radio job. We had an artist, Hardy, who you don't
Speaker 1: need to know who he is. It's okay, he's a
Speaker 1: country artist, he's rock artist. He kind of does it all,
Speaker 1: but Dad, we hosted a lookalike contest, so listeners all
Speaker 1: across the concert dressing as him, kids, adults, men, women,
Speaker 1: everybody to try to meet him. So whoever looked the
Speaker 1: most like him on voting got to meet him. And
Speaker 1: I too, did a lookalike contest with him, and quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I got to say I looked I looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: I looked pretty good.
Speaker 2: You looked a little bit like him, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I I decided that if we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a Hearty lookalike contest, I myself need to try to
Speaker 1: look like him, and so I'm gonna put a picture
Speaker 1: up if you follow us on YouTube. I'm also gonna
Speaker 1: put it on our social media, but Dad, just so
Speaker 1: you can kind of see it's it's it's tough with
Speaker 1: the lighting. But he's clearly eight inches taller than me.
Speaker 1: But I dressed like.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, is is he five feet tall?
Speaker 2: Because that's the only way you could look like him.
Speaker 2: There's a guy who's two three inches shorter than you.
Speaker 1: He's probably six even, maybe five ten, five eleven. But uh,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, it was just funny, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure that kind of stuff has happening across Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: Maybe a giveaway they did in a stadium where you
Speaker 1: got to dress like, you know, Steve Carlton or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Right, well, yeah, they've done all sorts of things. One
Speaker 2: of my favorite things evolves Tito Francona. Of course, almost
Speaker 2: everything involves Tito Francona. But he wanted to pope fun
Speaker 2: at Dustin Pedroia, his great second baseman, because they were
Speaker 2: absolute best friends when Tito was the manager and Dustin
Speaker 2: Pedroia was the second baseman. So Tito arranged for John Clayton,
Speaker 2: the late great John Clayton, one of the great football
Speaker 2: guys ever. And he arranged for John Clayton, who looks
Speaker 2: a little bit like Dustin Pedroia. I don't see I
Speaker 2: don't see it. But he arranged to have John Clayton
Speaker 2: like do a little video of Dustin Pedroia, like pretending
Speaker 2: to be Dustin Pedroia. And then they played it throughout
Speaker 2: the clubhouse, and apparently the whole place went crazy. They
Speaker 2: were laughing so loud. It was so typical of Tito
Speaker 2: to take you know, John Clayton, one of my favorite
Speaker 2: people ever, but a non athletic looking football writer, was
Speaker 2: playing the part of Dustin and pretending to be him.
Speaker 2: And Jeff, when you're playing baseball, the game is this
Speaker 2: hard to play. It's it's okay to have a little
Speaker 2: fun and poke fun, especially in people like Pedroia who
Speaker 2: could take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely that. And and Tito is known for his
Speaker 1: clubhouse being a place of baseball, yes, of course, but
Speaker 1: also of fun. I mean he made those runs with
Speaker 1: those Red Sox teams and those Guardians teams and now
Speaker 1: that Red team who did not look like a playoff
Speaker 1: team for most of the year. You have to give
Speaker 1: a lot of credit to him and the clubhouse that
Speaker 1: he keeps. And we love him and he's a former
Speaker 1: guest of the show. We caught him in his retirement
Speaker 1: era that one year he took off, which was so
Speaker 1: much fun. That was a great interview, right.
Speaker 2: And and Brent Souter, who can picture for the Angels? Now?
Speaker 2: Who can impersonate like anyone does? The greatest Jim Carrey ever.
Speaker 2: I told you this that he can do a great
Speaker 2: Tito francona personation when he was with the Reds last year.
Speaker 2: And Tito told us his spring he said, you know,
Speaker 2: Suitor used to just come into my office and want
Speaker 2: to talk to me about things and everything. I don't
Speaker 2: think he ever really wanted to talk to me. I
Speaker 2: think he was just trying to work on his impression
Speaker 2: on my manners. So he would just stop in and say, hey, Skip,
Speaker 2: like what are we doing in the bullpen tomorrow or
Speaker 2: something like that. He was like working on his impersonation.
Speaker 2: I that's so brent Suitor to do that, because he's
Speaker 2: wicked smart and really funny and a great teammate guy.
Speaker 2: And Tito, of course, anyone can make fun of him
Speaker 2: and he will take it better than anybody.
Speaker 1: Well. I remember years ago spring training, Jonathan Papplebond did
Speaker 1: an impression of Tito Francona on Baseball Tonight with you guys.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I was standing right next to him, and it.
Speaker 1: Was like eight thousand seeds, right, because that's what he's like,
Speaker 1: spitting him out while he's talking like Tito.
Speaker 2: It was his It's derekally funny. It was so so good.
Speaker 2: And again, gotta have a good sense of humor to
Speaker 2: play this game, because the game will tear you to
Speaker 2: pieces if you don't. I Jeff's speaking of a good
Speaker 2: sense of humor. I need one this week. You'll need
Speaker 2: one every day for the next twenty five years until
Speaker 2: your children are grown up. Okay, but I'm doing a
Speaker 2: lot of traveling here, Jeff, And I don't know why
Speaker 2: I found this kind of amusing, but I checked in
Speaker 2: the airport the other day and I had to show
Speaker 2: my ID and all this, and the lady behind that
Speaker 2: counter looks at my license, which my driver's license, which
Speaker 2: expires in twenty thirty three, which I didn't even know that,
Speaker 2: But she looks at me and says, just checking a
Speaker 2: few things. You're born in nineteen thirty three, correct, that's
Speaker 2: what she said. No, she read my license wrong, So
Speaker 2: I just I just looked at her because she really
Speaker 2: wasn't looking at me three years old. I said, I'm
Speaker 2: not yet. I said, yes, I am ninety three years old,
Speaker 2: and she, I guess, got a little bit of a
Speaker 2: kick out of that, but she was She apologized. I said,
Speaker 2: don't worry, I'm not ninety three years old. But that's
Speaker 2: what she said, born in nineteen thirty three. Yes, ma'am,
Speaker 2: I'm ninety three years old. That was really, really.
Speaker 1: That is hilarious.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I remember a friend of mine's a bartender, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know when I can't remember well, I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: it's by the time twenty twenty hit. When he would
Speaker 1: check IDs, he said, I would just have to look
Speaker 1: at the nineteen for the and that was it. You
Speaker 1: didn't even need to look at the rest of the
Speaker 1: year because if you were born in nineteen something. And
Speaker 1: then it made me feel dad Like when I'm a
Speaker 1: grandfather and we're talking, like when it's twenty seventy and
Speaker 1: I'm seventy odds some years old, right, my grandkids are
Speaker 1: going to look at me and say, you were born
Speaker 1: in nineteen insert year here, and yeah, I was born
Speaker 1: in a different generation, a different decade, different millennium. I mean,
Speaker 1: my goodness, I'm gonna feel I'm ninety three, so nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three not ninety three years old, and I'll be
Speaker 1: able to, you know, wear that until the end of
Speaker 1: the twenty first century, probably.
Speaker 2: Right, Jeff. A lot of travel this week for me,
Speaker 2: A lot of trips to Bristol for baseball, Tonight's Sports Center,
Speaker 2: a bunch of things, all good, no complaints here, But
Speaker 2: never forget what my dear friend Alex Wolf. I worked
Speaker 2: with him at Sports Illustrated, one of the great writers
Speaker 2: ever and one of the great basketball minds that I've
Speaker 2: ever seen. We were talking about all the terrible travel
Speaker 2: we've had, and I've used this a million times with you, Jeff,
Speaker 2: stealing it, of course from Alex Wolf. He looked at
Speaker 2: me once and he goes, Tim, Never forget traveling is
Speaker 2: a violation, and boy is it ever There's no telling
Speaker 2: what could happen when you're traveling. You might be mistaken
Speaker 2: for someone who is ninety three years old. How about that, Dad?
Speaker 1: Top three things you quoted when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Traveling is a violation, Pumba, you are a pig and holgad.
Speaker 1: If I had to make three, you've quoted more than anything.
Speaker 1: It's those three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I was such a good teacher teaching. We
Speaker 2: use so many good lessons in life. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Well, I knew who's on first before I knew my alphabet.
Speaker 1: So when I went to kindergarten, people said, well, what's
Speaker 1: on second? And they said, ABC, I have no idea,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. He's on third base?
Speaker 2: Right right? Teacher would say I don't know, and you
Speaker 2: would say third base idea? All right?
Speaker 1: Why because we're not getting into him. He's our picture,
Speaker 1: all right, Dad, before we jump into the takeaways. Tomorrow's
Speaker 1: guest is gonna be iconic, so funny. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to bring it to members of the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dear friend rich Donley will be our guest tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Rich is the greatest batting practice pitcher ever, and I
Speaker 2: don't think we've ever talked about great BP pictures on
Speaker 2: this podcast. He's also maybe one of the greatest third
Speaker 2: base coaches of all time. There is an art and
Speaker 2: a skill to being a third base coach. Uh. He
Speaker 2: tells the greatest stories ever. I've known him for almost
Speaker 2: fifty years, and few people make me laugh as loud
Speaker 2: as Rich Donley does, so tune in tomorrow. He'll tell
Speaker 2: you a bunch of stories about BP and about coach
Speaker 2: at third and you know he worked with Doug Raider
Speaker 2: and Jim Leland and he's seen but he was on
Speaker 2: the same team as Barry Bonds. Some great, great stories
Speaker 2: from Rich.
Speaker 1: Plus some Home Run Derby stories. You know, we're coming
Speaker 1: up on the All Star break and he, I mean,
Speaker 1: he is the OG, as we would say, you know
Speaker 1: what that means.
Speaker 2: Dad, offensive guard? Right, that's it.
Speaker 1: You nailed it. He is the offensive guard of the
Speaker 1: Home Run Derby. Nailed it, Dad, And so we're going
Speaker 1: to talk a lot.
Speaker 2: What is an OG? Jeah? What is it going to it? There?
Speaker 1: So technically means original gangster, but like it's just become
Speaker 1: like the original, like the first, the most important. Right
Speaker 1: when you think of the Home Run Derby, you can
Speaker 1: think of rich Donnelly because he was known as the
Speaker 1: guy who who was throwing VP for the Home Run
Speaker 1: Derby before it got to the way it is today.
Speaker 1: So that's what the OG means.
Speaker 2: Og original Gangster. Was there any reason, I.
Speaker 1: Take thousands of things, I didn't think Tim Kirschen would
Speaker 1: ever say original gangster?
Speaker 2: Yea, if it doesn't make any sense, how can that
Speaker 2: be a thing. If it doesn't make any.
Speaker 1: Sense, it does make that it's well, it's from you know,
Speaker 1: hip hop and rap culture. I'm sure it's from a
Speaker 1: song that I can't even quote at this point, but
Speaker 1: it basically means the first right, He's an original gangster.
Speaker 2: I got it.
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Speaker 1: Let's jump into the takeaways, Dad, what do you have
Speaker 1: across Major League base?
Speaker 2: All right, So the White Sox beat the Royals the
Speaker 2: other day twenty two to one, and they had a
Speaker 2: ten run inning. And Jeff, we have had seven ten
Speaker 2: run innings this year. So the only season in it
Speaker 2: was in two thousand and five in which there were
Speaker 2: more ten run innings before the month of July was
Speaker 2: in two thousand and five when there were eight. So, Jeff,
Speaker 2: it's odd to me. I'm confused and I'm intrigued that
Speaker 2: I say every week on this podcast, how does anyone
Speaker 2: get a hit anymore? But once guys start to get hits,
Speaker 2: that just seems to snowball. And they scored ten runs
Speaker 2: in an inning seventh time this year that a team
Speaker 2: has scored ten runs an inning. Do you have any
Speaker 2: thoughts on this, Like, why does this happen? Teams can't
Speaker 2: score any runs these days. It's so hard to get
Speaker 2: a hit, and then all of a sudden they're thrown
Speaker 2: up ten in an inning. What is that?
Speaker 1: Well, it's all or nothing. And I also feel like
Speaker 1: in the element of keeping our pitchers safe, I don't
Speaker 1: have the stats to back this up, but I do
Speaker 1: have what I believe to be kind of an opinion.
Speaker 1: When it comes to pitchers, you're staying in longer when
Speaker 1: it comes to not starters per se, but like relievers,
Speaker 1: like just leave him out there, he'll give up a
Speaker 1: couple more runs, because at that point, when you're giving
Speaker 1: up five runs, the teams are saying, we're gonna lose
Speaker 1: this game anyway, right, because we're not going to come
Speaker 1: back because it's so hard to get a hit. So
Speaker 1: I feel like these relievers are taking more and more
Speaker 1: damage out there before they get changed out to prevent
Speaker 1: injury and running too many pitchers at one time, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, like you're throwing thrown position players.
Speaker 2: That's a good point, right, And position players are giving
Speaker 2: up some of these home runs and some of these runs.
Speaker 2: Once you get to a ten run inning, nobody hesitates
Speaker 2: any more to put a position player in. As I
Speaker 2: told you, Jeff, when I first started covering late seventies,
Speaker 2: early eighties, you would see one, maybe two position players
Speaker 2: pitch during a season. Now it's all almost every night
Speaker 2: you see a position player pitch in order to keep
Speaker 2: the real pitchers healthy. I understand, and I think this
Speaker 2: next note is, you know, kind of connected. Also helped
Speaker 2: me here. But Hunter Goodman of the Rockies hit three
Speaker 2: homers in a game the other day. So he's the
Speaker 2: sixth guy this year to have a three homer game.
Speaker 2: We've had four of them in the last twelve days.
Speaker 2: Is this the all or nothing thing? Also, do you
Speaker 2: think that we know they're going to the play thinking
Speaker 2: damage where let's hit it in the upper deck as
Speaker 2: opposed to a soft single to left field? Do you
Speaker 2: think that's where we are.
Speaker 1: On this one thousand percent we're swinging for the fences
Speaker 1: or we're striking out and going back to the digout's
Speaker 1: that's baseball in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: It's no doubt, all right. The other thing we've done
Speaker 2: on the podcast, Like every week, Jeff, least at least
Speaker 2: about ten weeks, I have asked you to name three
Speaker 2: five hundred home run hitters who never hit three homers
Speaker 2: in a game. I think we did this last week.
Speaker 2: Let's see if you can remember.
Speaker 1: Davidez, Yes, definitely one of them. For Thomas No, well, he.
Speaker 2: Might not have, but I don't know that. Gary Sheffield
Speaker 2: and Raphael palmerow all hit five hundred homers, never hit
Speaker 2: three in a game. And yet we've had four guys
Speaker 2: do it in the last twelve days. And speaking of explosions, Jeff,
Speaker 2: you're a big Phillies fan because you live in PHILADELPHIAU
Speaker 2: and Emily loved the Phillies. I think it's great. So
Speaker 2: the Phillies became the first team ever, Jeff to hit
Speaker 2: a go ahead Just finish the note, Jeff, first team
Speaker 2: ever to do what?
Speaker 1: Hit a go ahead home run in the ninth inning
Speaker 1: in three straight games?
Speaker 2: Jeff? That is I mean, this is why I love
Speaker 2: baseball so much. Is that things happen that make you
Speaker 2: slap your forehead, things happen that you've never seen before. Well,
Speaker 2: in this case, no one has ever seen is because
Speaker 2: no one has ever done that before.
Speaker 1: And here here's the embarrassing part of the note. Every
Speaker 1: single night I went to bed before the ninth inning
Speaker 1: because I have a two week old son sleeping in
Speaker 1: the bedroll.
Speaker 2: You right, and you have have to get up at
Speaker 2: four thirty to go to work.
Speaker 1: Every day I'm up at three thirty. I leave the
Speaker 1: house at four thirty. So every morning I open my phone,
Speaker 1: I open the box score, and I go, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: they won, and I'm happy. Night two, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: they won, and I'm upset because I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1: Night three. Morning, next note, I go, oh my, I'm apoplectic.
Speaker 1: I'm so angry that I didn't stay up at that point.
Speaker 2: Come on, So the day after the third game in
Speaker 2: which the Phillies hit a go at homer in the
Speaker 2: ninth against the Nationals, of course I saw the Nationals
Speaker 2: against the Orioles in Baltimore, and I saw Blake Butterra,
Speaker 2: thirty three year old manager for the Nats. Really smart guy,
Speaker 2: really good guy, and has done each job with that
Speaker 2: team so far. So I see him, and essentially the
Speaker 2: first thing he asked me, which was right away, was
Speaker 2: how many great notes did you get out of that
Speaker 2: our last three games. Now, Look, he was crushed, he
Speaker 2: was furious. He was I said, did you even sleep?
Speaker 2: He goes, I haven't slept in three nights. That's how
Speaker 2: much those games hurt him. But because he loves baseball,
Speaker 2: he is intrigued that we've played for, you know, one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years of baseball and what just happened
Speaker 2: in those three games had never happened before. Even though
Speaker 2: it happened to his team and nearly killed him, he
Speaker 2: was still intrigued by you do you find that to
Speaker 2: be healthy for a manager? I think it is.
Speaker 1: I think losing sleep is something that we don't talk
Speaker 1: about enough when it comes to our baseball players. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you've talked about players who say they feel
Speaker 1: like they're never going to get a hit again when
Speaker 1: they go on to a slump and they're having trouble
Speaker 1: sleeping and they're traveling. But if you love the game,
Speaker 1: you got to recognize, like, this is crazy that this
Speaker 1: would happen. But yeah, when you blow that many saves,
Speaker 1: it's a little tough to.
Speaker 2: Be the right And another really healthy thing that that
Speaker 2: happened while I was talking to Blake but Tero and
Speaker 2: I had a nice chat with him. After about fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: he looked at me and said, how well do you
Speaker 2: know Buck Showalter? And I said, well, I know it
Speaker 2: better than almost anybody. I talked to him all the time.
Speaker 2: And Blake but Terra said, I would love, love, love
Speaker 2: to talk to Buck Showalter. I've never met him before,
Speaker 2: but I would just love to pick his brain. And
Speaker 2: I found this to be very healthy that a thirty
Speaker 2: three year old manager isn't walking around like, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: one of thirty now, I'm smarter than everyone else. He
Speaker 2: is saying I need to reach out and talk to
Speaker 2: Buck so I can learn more about my craft, about
Speaker 2: the game and everything else I don't know. I thought
Speaker 2: I was very encouraged that any young person in the
Speaker 2: game today would reach out to someone who's my age,
Speaker 2: sixty nine years old and say, I really need to
Speaker 2: talk to him. So I hope them up. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if they've talked yet, but I thought that was great.
Speaker 2: That's just me.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a sign of maturity for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't doubt that he wants to learn and pick
Speaker 1: his brain. And that's just the love of the game.
Speaker 1: It's love of baseball. And we've had Buck Showalter on
Speaker 1: the podcast twice and every time I learn something, every
Speaker 1: time I'm sponging it up because he's just got a
Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge in such a great perspective and a
Speaker 1: great storyteller.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, all right, Jeff, we had a rough week
Speaker 2: for defense this week in baseball. Now, look, let's be clear.
Speaker 2: These guys are so amazing athletically, you know, they get
Speaker 2: to balls that nobody got to fifty years ago. They
Speaker 2: jump over the fence and make catches, they make diving throws,
Speaker 2: they make throws diving catches, they make throws that you
Speaker 2: can't believe. So let's be clear today's player are They're
Speaker 2: more athletic than they've ever been. But like the Mets,
Speaker 2: we'll get to them in a minute. The Mets made
Speaker 2: six errors in one game, Jeff, and all four infielders
Speaker 2: made an error. In the same game. The Yankees had
Speaker 2: such a terrible game that Cam Schlitzler gave up six runs,
Speaker 2: all of them unearned, so the only runs scored against
Speaker 2: the Yankees in that game were unearned runs. The last
Speaker 2: time the Yankees gave up six runs or more, all
Speaker 2: of them unearned, was in nineteen thirty one. And then
Speaker 2: the Orioles, who I saw the other night, had a
Speaker 2: terrible final inning, had a difficult trip to Anaheim, but
Speaker 2: they had a terrible final inning, and a scout friend
Speaker 2: of mine told me it was like watching kids during
Speaker 2: a snowball fight. That's how the ball was being thrown
Speaker 2: all over the place. And again a former manager told me,
Speaker 2: you know, Tim, just face it. And I don't believe this,
Speaker 2: but he said, face it. Defense what players do in
Speaker 2: between there at bats, And he was trying to say,
Speaker 2: we don't concentrate enough on defense today. I think the
Speaker 2: defense is really really good, but when you see lapses
Speaker 2: mentally and six errors in a game, it makes you wonder,
Speaker 2: you know, do we care too much about how far
Speaker 2: we can hit it as opposed to how well can
Speaker 2: we catch it and throw it? Am I being too
Speaker 2: critical here?
Speaker 1: I firmly believe omar Viskel, I don't have this indirect knowledge,
Speaker 1: probably doesn't like watching a lot of Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: games anymore because the defense of the game just isn't
Speaker 1: an emphasis anymore.
Speaker 2: Right, defense right, And they should, especially with as hard
Speaker 2: as it is to pitch today. Speaking of the Mets Jet,
Speaker 2: we have to mention that they fired their manager, Carlos Mendoza,
Speaker 2: and they're moving on from here. It's not just at
Speaker 2: this writing, at this taping jet that they're thirteen games
Speaker 2: under five hundred since June thirteenth of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: when they had the best record in baseball they have played,
Speaker 2: they have They are thirty games under five hundred. They
Speaker 2: are seventy three and one hundred and three since June thirteenth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. You know, they're twenty sixth in the
Speaker 2: league in run scored, they're twenty seventh and starters era
Speaker 2: and again they've been just crushed by injuries Francisco Lindor
Speaker 2: and Lon Soto and Luis Robert Junior. But they have
Speaker 2: a long way to go, and I just don't see
Speaker 2: them making the playoffs this year. You see the same thing.
Speaker 1: Well, and also in NL East, where the Marlins are
Speaker 1: surprising everybody. I mean, as of taping, they won four straight.
Speaker 1: The Phillies have turned it around since getting rid of
Speaker 1: their manager, Rob Thompson and going towards you know, a
Speaker 1: new era, and they've been playing great baseball. And of
Speaker 1: course the Braves. Braves have always been good. But now
Speaker 1: they're top the NL East and they, you know, slowing
Speaker 1: down a bit. But I mean that's three great teams
Speaker 1: you have to get past. And not to mention the Nationals.
Speaker 1: I mean, they just dropped three straight against the Phillies,
Speaker 1: but they were over five hundred for a good portion
Speaker 1: of the season. So it's it's a strong NL East,
Speaker 1: and I just don't see the Mets pulling away, not
Speaker 1: this l y.
Speaker 2: I agree. And we can't do a takeaway without talking
Speaker 2: about Jacob Mazerowski because every time he goes to the mound,
Speaker 2: something happens that just makes you slap your forehead. So
Speaker 2: this in his last start, he threw a pitch at
Speaker 2: one hundred and five point five miles an hour. Chet,
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the end to this? Is someone
Speaker 2: going to throw it one hundred and ten miles an
Speaker 2: hour someday? I can't imagine, but I never imagine anyone
Speaker 2: throwing it at one hundred and five miles an hour. So
Speaker 2: I worked with Adam Attavino the other day on Baseball Tonight.
Speaker 2: Former pitcher went to Northeastern. Really really smart guy and
Speaker 2: can break down the mechanics and pitching just about as
Speaker 2: well as anyone. So he was still He told us
Speaker 2: off air the other day that he had to break
Speaker 2: down the Mizowski fifteen strikeout, no walk, one hit complete game,
Speaker 2: in which he threw ninety five pitches, the last one
Speaker 2: at one hundred and three miles an hour. So he said,
Speaker 2: I had to break it down, And he said, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't because it was just it was just too easy.
Speaker 2: Here's what he said. This guy throws so fast that
Speaker 2: nobody can hit it, and because he throws so many strikes,
Speaker 2: you have to swing at it, and therefore you swing
Speaker 2: and miss. That was his analysis on one of the
Speaker 2: greatest pitching performances ever. And you know what, he's right, Jeb,
Speaker 2: you could talk about all this other stuff, and I
Speaker 2: talk about the armslot and all that stuff, how different
Speaker 2: it is. And he six' seven and extension one hundred and,
Speaker 2: four one hundred and five and you can locate. It
Speaker 2: that's the end of the, analysis AM i?
Speaker 1: Right that's. It and when you're that efficient and throwing
Speaker 1: that many, strikes, right you gotta. Swing so oh that's. Incredible,
Speaker 1: hey It's Jeff. Kirchin let me tell you you've got
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Speaker 1: dad let's go into the court. Gins what do you.
Speaker 2: Have, well it's a little, late But Dansby swanson of The,
Speaker 2: cubs hitting ninth in the, order basically drove in eleven
Speaker 2: runs in a doubleheader the other day against against The.
Speaker 2: Mets Ron santo had The cub record with ten in
Speaker 2: a double header In july nineteen. Seventy swanson also drove
Speaker 2: in fifteen runs in three games against The. Mets they
Speaker 2: played a four game. Series he didn't drive in a
Speaker 2: run in the fourth. Game but the only other players
Speaker 2: to have fifteen RBIs in a three game stretch against
Speaker 2: the same team Are Reggie, jackson lou gerrig And Tony,
Speaker 2: lazeri All hall of. Famers that's What Dansby swanson. Did
Speaker 2: eleven RBIs jeff in a double he but you remember
Speaker 2: the Great yogi Bear astat from the minor? Leagues how
Speaker 2: many runs did he drive in in that double? Header
Speaker 2: and his Granddaughter Lindsey right absolutely confirmed all of.
Speaker 1: THIS i can't remember the.
Speaker 2: Number Yogi barra drove in twenty three.
Speaker 1: RUNS i THOUGHT i was twenty.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i went To yogi AND i, Said, yogi how
Speaker 2: is that? Possible and typically and he only hit one
Speaker 2: homer with twenty three RBIs and a. Doubleheader he had
Speaker 2: twelve in the first, game eleven in the, second And,
Speaker 2: yogi Typical yogi just, said, well every time he came
Speaker 2: to the, plate the bases were, loaded and then he
Speaker 2: hit like three three run, doubles three three run. Triples
Speaker 2: it was just. Insane it was absolutely. Crazy so that's,
Speaker 2: it all. Right, So Kyle, schoreber your boy was intentionally
Speaker 2: walked with nobody on base in the ninth inning the other.
Speaker 2: Night so he gets an intentional walk with nobody on,
Speaker 2: base and you, know you just don't see very much of.
Speaker 2: That but remember two thousand and, two just to show
Speaker 2: you how Great Barry bonds was in his, prime he
Speaker 2: got walked eight times in one season intentionally with nobody on.
Speaker 2: Base is that stunning to, You, Jeff you're a.
Speaker 1: Threat it's the greatest compliment a player could. GET i
Speaker 1: really believe that in eight times in one season For Arry.
Speaker 2: Bonds. Right willie McCovey used to own the record for
Speaker 2: most intentional walks in a season with forty, five and
Speaker 2: Then barry came along and had a season in which
Speaker 2: he had one hundred and twenty intentional. Walks one hundred and.
Speaker 2: Twenty he had more intentional WALKS i believe than any
Speaker 2: nationallygue player that year had walks. Total he had one
Speaker 2: hundred and. Twenty, yeah that's very bonds for, you all, Right,
Speaker 2: JEFF i got a kick out of. This Eric louer
Speaker 2: of The dodgers the other day pitched six hitless innings in.
Speaker 2: Relief you, know it's one of those opener situations where
Speaker 2: he's the second pitcher in and he pitched six no hit.
Speaker 2: Inning SO i Called frank from The elias to, say
Speaker 2: who's the last guy to do? That And Ken walld
Speaker 2: To chuck of The a's did it in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: three so it's only been two. Years three. Years but
Speaker 2: three days After Eric lawerd, Did Ian seymour of The
Speaker 2: rays did the same. Thing he came into a game
Speaker 2: and pitched six and two thirds hitless. Baseball is that
Speaker 2: amazing that it hadn't happened in three years and the
Speaker 2: guy two guys did it in three.
Speaker 1: Days that always shocks. Me, DAD i definitely didn't think
Speaker 1: it would have been three. Years but you know who
Speaker 1: it reminds me of is is our Guest Kent. Murker,
Speaker 1: right that very much reminds me of. Him, now he
Speaker 1: was a starter and a believer and a closer in his.
Speaker 1: Career but that just sounds like A Kent merker stat
Speaker 1: something he was involved, in, right.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes Kent murker's so, funny all, Right Dylan. Cees On,
Speaker 2: Saturday jeff of The Blue jays had a ten strikeout
Speaker 2: game and he only pitched four and two thirds. Inning
Speaker 2: so that's the third time in his career that he
Speaker 2: has struck out ten or more in less than five.
Speaker 2: Innings and he's the first pitcher ever since the mound
Speaker 2: was moved to its current distance in eighteen ninety, three
Speaker 2: to have three different starts in which he had ten
Speaker 2: or more strikeouts in fewer than five. INNINGS i, mean
Speaker 2: he's the only guy ever to do. That he's done
Speaker 2: it three. Times it's, amazing isn't.
Speaker 1: It that's. Incredible that is, nuts all, Right.
Speaker 2: Jeb, now speaking of, incredible you know not how MUCH
Speaker 2: i Love James wood of The. Nationals his, Dad Kenny,
Speaker 2: wood is a good friend of. Mine we played old
Speaker 2: dog basketball for, years so, Please i'm not picking on.
Speaker 2: Anyone this is the game we play. Today But friday
Speaker 2: NIGHT i went to The Nationals orioles, game and that
Speaker 2: Night James wood struck out twice and therefore now has
Speaker 2: more strikeouts in his. Career and he's in his third,
Speaker 2: season not a third full, season because we're. Not we're
Speaker 2: halfway through this and didn't play a full season three years.
Speaker 2: Ago he now has more strikeouts Than tony gwyn did
Speaker 2: in his. Career So Tony wynn played twenty years And
Speaker 2: James wood has now played part of three. Years and
Speaker 2: he struck out for the four hundred and thirty fifth
Speaker 2: time to Pass Tony, gwynn who struck out four hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty four times in his. Career that's, amazing is it.
Speaker 1: Not it's a different. GAME i, mean we look at
Speaker 1: how many times did Did Ted williams strike out in one?
Speaker 1: Year And Joe DiMaggio And Yogi. Berra it's just a
Speaker 1: different world right, now right And jeff speak speaking of that,
Speaker 1: NOW i think the guys AT Opta, STATS i don't.
Speaker 2: Know who those people, are but they are. Great they're
Speaker 2: on the internet all the time and they come up
Speaker 2: with some MAD i think they came up with this
Speaker 2: stat BUT i have absolutely confirmed it That James wood
Speaker 2: has now faced more different pitchers in his major league
Speaker 2: career Than Ted williem, did So James wood has now
Speaker 2: at this at the taping as of the other, day
Speaker 2: had faced four hundred and fifty six different pitchers in
Speaker 2: his major league. Career AND i, repeat he's in his
Speaker 2: third year And Ted williams in his major league career
Speaker 2: faced four hundred and forty seven pitchers. Total, now so
Speaker 2: this kind of Supports this is How James wood has
Speaker 2: so many, strikeouts more Than Tony Gwinn and this could
Speaker 2: be said for a million guys in the. Game i'm
Speaker 2: just Using James wood as an. Example but when you
Speaker 2: see a different, picture like you go into a, game
Speaker 2: you see a guy five different pictures and you never
Speaker 2: faced any of. Them how hard do you think that,
Speaker 2: is especially when most of lever throwing ninety five to one.
Speaker 1: Hundred you, Agree, well you look at teams that have
Speaker 1: so much depth in their pitching, rotation they will throw
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher for way less innings and then put
Speaker 1: another quality starter in there because the more often you
Speaker 1: hit against the same, picture you start to recognize their.
Speaker 1: Mechanics so If Ted williams is only facing x amount
Speaker 1: of pictures And James wood has done that in two
Speaker 1: and a half. Seasons he's always got to try to figure, Out,
Speaker 1: okay who is this. Guy i've never seen him. Before
Speaker 1: that's crazy to think. About it's another, Portion. Dad it's
Speaker 1: not just the, speed it's not just the ability of the,
Speaker 1: pictures but it's the diversity of those pictures that they're.
Speaker 1: Facing they don't have time to learn a picture Because
Speaker 1: Ted williams FACED i don't, Know i'm making up a,
Speaker 1: number maybe the same picture ten, eleven twelve times in a,
Speaker 1: season and he's, like, OH i know this. Guy and
Speaker 1: when You're Ted, williams you don't forget what a guy's
Speaker 1: throwing where he's throwing. It because he's the greatest hitter
Speaker 1: of all time when it comes to the science of the.
Speaker 1: Game for goodness, sake he wrote.
Speaker 2: A book on, it, Right, yeah so. Jeah but let's be,
Speaker 2: clear as AS i always do defend the guys that came,
Speaker 2: before as people are going to, say, Oh Ted williams
Speaker 2: couldn't hit, Today look look out few pictures he. Faced, no, no,
Speaker 2: No Ted williams would figure anything. Out and this stat
Speaker 2: is just there to provide some context on What james
Speaker 2: would and today's hitters are up. Against. Not, Oh Ted
Speaker 2: williams had it easy facing these guys over and over. Again,
Speaker 2: No i'm not buying. That i'm not all. Right last, Thing,
Speaker 2: JEFF i BET i got twelve text messages emails from
Speaker 2: people who, said did you notice the matchup in The
Speaker 2: dodgers padres? Game Jack Dryer Face Gavin? Sheets so we
Speaker 2: had The Dryer sheets. Matchup, look we had it last.
Speaker 2: YEAR i was all over it last year and it
Speaker 2: happened two games in a row over the. Weekend, like
Speaker 2: how great is? That SO i don't want to be
Speaker 2: insulting and say when people are saying did you see? It,
Speaker 2: yes this is WHAT i live, for Our Dryer sheets.
Speaker 2: Matchups so it's just. Beautiful and you know how MUCH
Speaker 2: i love the names of the, game so it's really really.
Speaker 1: Good it really is. Great we got so many. Messages
Speaker 1: if you ever see a great, matchup you can go
Speaker 1: to Great game or what dot, com scroll down message
Speaker 1: us directly. There that's how my dad AND i can
Speaker 1: see your messages and respond to you. Directly we love
Speaker 1: people obviously who dms on, social but we get a
Speaker 1: lot of messages. There it's hard to get through them.
Speaker 1: All our red site is the real place to get
Speaker 1: to us great game or what dot? Com all?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Dad so moving on from our, questchns we go to
Speaker 1: on the state and baseball. History what do you have for?
Speaker 2: Us all? Right nineteen seventy, Seven Willy stargell hit on
Speaker 2: this date home run number four. Hundred so what did
Speaker 2: we learn About Willie stargell in the last couple of?
Speaker 2: Weeks he hit the most? Homers When jeff in the
Speaker 2: decade of the. Seventies oh, remember, Yeah REMEMBER i went
Speaker 2: to a. GAME i sat in the. Stands the knucklehead
Speaker 2: behind ME i don't even, know asked a trivia question
Speaker 2: to anyone who cares to and, said who hit the
Speaker 2: most homers in the? Seventies AND i knew the answer
Speaker 2: Was Willie. Stargell and he looks at me and he, goes, good,
Speaker 2: Guess but that's. Wrong he, Said no one's ever gotten
Speaker 2: this question. Right the answer Is Dave. Gigman well it
Speaker 2: Wasn't Dave. Gigman the reason no one ever got it
Speaker 2: right is because he had it. Wrong So Willie stargell
Speaker 2: hit the most homers in the, seventies and on this
Speaker 2: date in nineteen seventy, seven he hit number four hundred
Speaker 2: And Willie stargell was A hall Of fame player and
Speaker 2: one of the great team leaders ever. NOBODY i, MEAN
Speaker 2: i love being Around Willy, stargell and his teammates loved
Speaker 2: it even more THAN i. Did that's how great he,
Speaker 2: was all, Right. Jeff on this date in nineteen, Ninety
Speaker 2: Dave stewart And Fernando balezuela threw a no hitter on
Speaker 2: the same. Day wo pretty. Odd the last time that
Speaker 2: had Happened Hippo vaughn and Fred tony in nineteen. SEVENTEEN
Speaker 2: i remember that. Night it was crazy that there were two.
Speaker 1: Hitters you remember the nineteen seventeen. One you're, saying, right.
Speaker 2: Well i'm ninety three years, Old. Jeff as we've established
Speaker 2: from my trip to the airport the other, DAY i, said,
Speaker 2: YES i was there all. Right two thousand and, Five
Speaker 2: Craig bigio was hit by a pitch for the two
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eighth, time which Passed Don baylor for
Speaker 2: the most in the modern. Era only in baseball in
Speaker 2: the modern era be defined as nineteen hundred on that's
Speaker 2: the modern, Era. JEFF i remember Asking. Bigio i've asked
Speaker 2: him many times about getting hit all the, time and he,
Speaker 2: SAID i promised, You, Tim i've taken more advil than
Speaker 2: anyone in the history Of basel because he got hit
Speaker 2: all the time and he played the. Game SO i
Speaker 2: checked With frank from The elias and for the first
Speaker 2: time he, Said, TIM i can't help you with. That
Speaker 2: we don't have advil in our data. Bank. Here is
Speaker 2: that the stupidest thing you've ever? Heard?
Speaker 1: Now adville consumed ac not a stat line on the
Speaker 1: box score On Baseball.
Speaker 2: Reference oh, BOY i remember Asking Don, baylor don'll be
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty seven times that you got? Hit
Speaker 2: which one hurt the? Most and Remember Don baylor was a, big, big,
Speaker 2: strong tough man and one of the great Guys i've ever.
Speaker 2: MET i, SAID i said his nickname Was. GROOVE i, Said,
Speaker 2: groove which one hit the? Most and he looked at
Speaker 2: me and he, goes none of? Them and then we moved.
Speaker 2: On that's just how he looked at, it standing, There
Speaker 2: take it and run to first. Base so that was.
Speaker 2: Great on this date in twenty, Twelve Aaron hill hit
Speaker 2: for the cycle for the second time in a two week.
Speaker 2: Stretch two cycles in two, WEEKS i, mean that's that's pretty.
Speaker 2: Hard to. Do on this, date in nineteen thirty, Six
Speaker 2: Harmon killbrew was. Born he's one of the nicest People
Speaker 2: i've ever met in the, game one of the great
Speaker 2: power hitters of all. Time hall Of famer of, course
Speaker 2: five hundred. Homers let's see, If, jeff you'll never get this.
Speaker 2: One our Friend Bruce brown From, saber who's an absolute.
Speaker 2: GENIUS i can't even begin to tell you how UNCOMFORTABLE
Speaker 2: i am WHEN i have to talk to him because
Speaker 2: he knows so much more than me and everyone. Else
Speaker 2: he has come up with something called double unique about.
Speaker 2: Players do you know what a double unique, Is, JEFF
Speaker 2: i THINK i told you, THIS i can't. REMEMBER a
Speaker 2: double unique player is someone who has a first name
Speaker 2: that no one else in the history of baseball has
Speaker 2: and a last name that no one in the history
Speaker 2: of baseball. Has And harmon killer is a double. Unique
Speaker 2: Killer brew sounds right because how many people are Named.
Speaker 2: Killbrew BUT i was, surprised and this was a couple
Speaker 2: of years. Ago he told me this that there's no
Speaker 2: other player major league history with the first Name. Harmon
Speaker 2: So Harmon killerbrew is a double. Unique And Bruce brown
Speaker 2: has this entire list of players like hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 2: of them who are double, uniques Like, Urbina like you
Speaker 2: got a really weird first name and then an odd last,
Speaker 2: name But Harmon kilbrew is a double. Unique does that
Speaker 2: surprise you at?
Speaker 1: All, no it, doesn't BECAUSE i mean the first name
Speaker 1: that came to mind for, me and this is total
Speaker 1: fail was Yachti, Air like no one has that. Name
Speaker 1: but then of Course. Molina he's got multiple brothers played
Speaker 1: in the. Game SO i couldn't even come up with
Speaker 1: another double. Unique why don't we ask our. LISTENERS i
Speaker 1: know there's a list out, there And i'm not gonnaquiz.
Speaker 1: You i'm gonna ask our listener send us who you
Speaker 1: think is a double unique Across Major League. Baseball maybe
Speaker 1: we'll even get the commissioner to chime in as. Well
Speaker 1: not The commissioner Of, baseball he's really. Busy but we'll
Speaker 1: get our dear Friend. Mike, sure great game or what dot?
Speaker 1: Com give us a double unique that you love in
Speaker 1: this great game of? Baseball?
Speaker 2: Okay last this date in baseball, History. Jeff on this
Speaker 2: date in Nineteen Moonlight graham played only in the only
Speaker 2: game he ever played In Major league. Baseball you know
Speaker 2: he never got into. Bad he went and played right
Speaker 2: field for The New York giants or a couple innings
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh.
Speaker 5: Five no one's called Me Moonlight graham for fifty.
Speaker 2: Years one are the great movies, ever, Right.
Speaker 1: JEF a lot of people don't realize he he's a real.
Speaker 1: Player it's based on more or less a real name
Speaker 1: and a real, player and that stat line that they put,
Speaker 1: up it's. Real AND i absolutely love that, Movie. Dad
Speaker 1: it is our favorite baseball, Movie field Of, Dreams AND
Speaker 1: i remember the MOMENT i figured out that this is
Speaker 1: not about. Baseball it's about a father and a. Son
Speaker 1: if you build, it he will. Come and we're all
Speaker 1: thinking Shoeless Joe. Baby well sorry spoiler, alert but it's
Speaker 1: been like thirty, years so not quite a spoiler alert.
Speaker 1: Anymore it was his, dad Ray. Kinsella, OH i just love.
Speaker 2: GOOD i love it all. Right so it's a tribute
Speaker 2: To Moonlight. Graham i've never we've never used this on the, Podcast,
Speaker 2: jeff so it's, fresh even THOUGH i used this a
Speaker 2: long time. Ago, anyways all The All Eclipse, team because
Speaker 2: we have to Have Moonlight graham on. It our catcher
Speaker 2: on The All eclipse team Is Fernando lunar L u N. A.
Speaker 2: R Razor shines is our first. Baseman Razor shines was
Speaker 2: on our our list the other day right for The
Speaker 2: All Summer. Team Razor shines made The Team tim list
Speaker 2: two weeks in a. Row has anyone else ever done?
Speaker 1: That you better do The All barber team because we
Speaker 1: could have them on that next.
Speaker 2: Week very?
Speaker 1: Good, wait, dad let's have. You it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be All, barber but can you come up with a Team? Tim,
Speaker 1: sorry now you're not gonna be able to sleep the
Speaker 1: rest of the week that Involves Razor. Shines you name it,
Speaker 1: well but it has to start With Razor, shines meaning
Speaker 1: like he has to be on the. Team so it
Speaker 1: could Be All barbara, team All Sharp instrument, team whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call, it but that is that is
Speaker 1: the Assignment i'm giving you and, family great game or
Speaker 1: What i'm on?
Speaker 2: It i'm on, it. Okay our second basement Is Moon.
Speaker 2: Mullen our third basement Is Hector. Luna our shortstop on
Speaker 2: The All Eclipse, Team Alvin Dark Moonlight graham is one
Speaker 2: of our. Outfielders of, Course Jorge solaire another, One Wally
Speaker 2: moon another. One Sky bolt is our designated hitter and
Speaker 2: our pitchers are Sun Wo Kim Ken cloud and this
Speaker 2: ONE i stole from one of our. GUYS i don't
Speaker 2: know who it, was but whoever Was Carl, hubble WHICH
Speaker 2: i thought was pretty Cool Hubble Sonny. Gray that makes,
Speaker 2: sense And JEFF i went back and looked at the
Speaker 2: list THAT i sent out On twitter like three years
Speaker 2: ago when there was a real, eclipse AND i LEFT
Speaker 2: i Left Blue Moon otum off the, list and no
Speaker 2: one was really angry about, it but they, like you
Speaker 2: can get angry On. Twitter but like everyone, said how
Speaker 2: could you leave blue Moon otem? Off, Well i'm not
Speaker 2: leaving him off this time on The All eclipse. Team
Speaker 2: the team tim On Is this A Great game or?
Speaker 2: What so that is My All eclipse, team all based
Speaker 2: on the fact That Moonlight graham was made his major
Speaker 2: his only major league appearents on this date in nineteen oh.
Speaker 1: Five so let's let's do it. Again Dad Razor shines
Speaker 1: next episode Of Is this A Great? Game Or what
Speaker 1: if members of the family want to come up with
Speaker 1: a team great? Game or what Dot com? Involve Razor
Speaker 1: shines more creative to better and we'll shout your team
Speaker 1: out next week or at the end of this, week
Speaker 1: because you know we're doing team tims that absolutely every
Speaker 1: single episode at this point a, Week.
Speaker 2: Jeff you know what kind of pressure that puts me
Speaker 2: under to come up with two a. Week And i'm
Speaker 2: working on one For july the, Fourth so that's gonna
Speaker 2: run this, week and it's may be the dumbest one,
Speaker 2: ever But i'm really working hard on. It probably too,
Speaker 2: hard but that's.
Speaker 6: Okay the wheel wheel up up curteed Who.
Speaker 1: All, right so thanks to your suggestions, again no, intro just,
Speaker 1: me uh your.
Speaker 2: Suggestions does everyone know what the wheel Of fortune mean the?
Speaker 2: Show everyone knows, that, Right it's a takeoff on The
Speaker 2: wheel Of, fortune, Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah for? Sure, YEAH i think it's it's common enough
Speaker 1: to know for. Sure this is the wheel Of. Kirkchain
Speaker 1: we've put your suggestions in my terrible handwriting onto the.
Speaker 1: Wheel we're gonna spin it And dad has to riff
Speaker 1: off of whatever we land. On are you ready pop?
Speaker 2: Up? Yes all, right here we.
Speaker 1: Go that's. WEIRD i don't ever call you pop up
Speaker 1: on The, pope BUT i do call you pop up
Speaker 1: exclusively outside of the.
Speaker 2: Pocket, okay here we. Go most people. Do, yeah most
Speaker 2: people call me poor pop.
Speaker 1: Up poor pop. Up Oh World? Cup how perfect is?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Dad do you have any Soccer World cup baseball?
Speaker 2: Stories, Well i've told you how many great soccer players
Speaker 2: have played in the major. LEAGUES i told you That omar. Vs.
Speaker 2: SCALE i went to do a story on him in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five and HE i went out in his
Speaker 2: garage in his house In, seattle and he just dribbled
Speaker 2: a ball on his foot for like three. Minutes it
Speaker 2: was it was. BREATHTAKING i, MEAN i Can't i'm not
Speaker 2: a soccer, player never, was but it was pretty. Impressive
Speaker 2: AND i, Said, omar when's the last time you tried
Speaker 2: to do? That he, said like ten years? Ago and
Speaker 2: then he just picks up a ball and bounces it
Speaker 2: off his. Foot all, right, Now i'm gonna Set i'm
Speaker 2: going to ask a stupid hypothetical for, This. Jeff and,
Speaker 2: again this is just a compliment completely to all soccer
Speaker 2: players and soccer. Teams IF i picked up the best
Speaker 2: baseball team made out of former soccer, players, okay so
Speaker 2: all of them have to have some sort of soccer
Speaker 2: background to be on this baseball. Team playing soccer and
Speaker 2: they played against A World cup team where it's a real.
Speaker 2: Competition would the final score of that game Be let's
Speaker 2: say they play THE us team or any, Team, argentina,
Speaker 2: anybody and it's.
Speaker 1: Final all of these baseball players are in their, prime,
Speaker 1: right so.
Speaker 2: Right these are athletic. Guys they've all played soccer, before
Speaker 2: but they just haven't played in a long time because
Speaker 2: they're major league baseball. Players so and, again this is
Speaker 2: a compliment to soccer players, only not anything. Else would
Speaker 2: the final score be five to, nothing ten to, nothing
Speaker 2: fifteen to, nothing twenty to, nothing thirty to, nothing or
Speaker 2: something higher than thirty to. Nothing what would be the
Speaker 2: final score of a soccer game if The argentina team
Speaker 2: in The World cup were to play the best of
Speaker 2: the baseball player what's the final? Score?
Speaker 1: JEFF i think it's fifteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: NIL i.
Speaker 1: DON'T i don't think the baseball players are. SCORING i, think, well.
Speaker 2: We know they're not, Scoring. Jeff and that's not a
Speaker 2: blast On these are the best soccer players in the.
Speaker 2: World you think they would only score fifteen.
Speaker 1: GOALS i think eventually the all baseball team would just
Speaker 1: load the box and just say like we're we're not
Speaker 1: even going on the. Offensive, Right we're just gonna we're
Speaker 1: just we're just gonna line up by the goalie and
Speaker 1: hope that they don't get it past, us, right all
Speaker 1: defense AND i mean, granted their defensemen aren't even gonna
Speaker 1: have to worry about doing any work.
Speaker 2: Either so, yeah who would your who would your goalie
Speaker 2: be on the on the baseball player? Team how About Aaron?
Speaker 1: Judge Aaron judges.
Speaker 2: Athletic six?
Speaker 1: Hunter Was Tory hunter a soccer? Player or was he
Speaker 1: a Football he was a football.
Speaker 2: Player it was a football. Player, yeah all, right all,
Speaker 2: right so that let's throw it out there to our.
Speaker 2: Listeners and, again a compliment only to our soccer, players
Speaker 2: not a rip on baseball. Players AND i think it's
Speaker 2: at least twenty five to nothing at. Least BUT i
Speaker 2: don't know soccer very. WELL i don't know if YOU
Speaker 2: i don't. Know all, right keep, going all.
Speaker 1: Right let's spin the. Wheel here we, go next, One
Speaker 1: oh landed On World?
Speaker 2: Cup?
Speaker 1: Again here we, GO, pa, Guys, Dad, yeah.
Speaker 2: Public address guys are kind of lost in baseball. History
Speaker 2: and some of them are just the, greatest Like Sherm
Speaker 2: feller In boston was an absolute. Icon At Fenway park
Speaker 2: because that incredible raspy voice that he had an, evening
Speaker 2: boys and, girls it WAS i can't do any of.
Speaker 2: That he's one of the most famous of all. Time of,
Speaker 2: Course Rex barney worked In baltimore as THE pa guy
Speaker 2: in all those years THAT i covered The, orioles And
Speaker 2: rex was famous for saying whenever anybody caught a ball
Speaker 2: in the, stands he would, say give that fan a.
Speaker 2: Contract BUT i think the GREATEST pa guy of all
Speaker 2: time has got to Be Bob, shepherd who did The
Speaker 2: Yankee games for all those. Years And Bob shepherd is
Speaker 2: A english lit, professor one of the smartest people in the.
Speaker 2: World the language was so important to. Him the advice
Speaker 2: he gave To jeremy shapp once was you can never
Speaker 2: talk too. Slowly so When jeremy's learning how to do,
Speaker 2: television that's What Bob shepherd told, Him, like not only
Speaker 2: should you not rush through, anything don't ever do, that
Speaker 2: but you can never walk but talk too. Slowly So
Speaker 2: i'm going to give you the worst impersonation in the
Speaker 2: history of. Impersonations this is My Bob shepherd now.
Speaker 5: Betting full of The. Yankees the shortstop number Two Derek
Speaker 5: jeta number two pretty, Bad.
Speaker 1: Jeb that was pretty. GOOD i found it interesting that
Speaker 1: you had to have your eyes closed the whole, time
Speaker 1: but the impression itself was pretty.
Speaker 2: Good all. Right So John, miller the, hilarious Hilarious hall
Speaker 2: Of fame, Broadcaster he, said what If Bob shepherd is like,
Speaker 2: this like wherever he, goes like if he goes to order?
Speaker 2: Breakfast is this What Bob shepherd says in the? Restaurant he, says.
Speaker 5: Yes, MA'AM i will have the number two eggs over
Speaker 5: easy with toast number two?
Speaker 2: Two is that how he would order? Breakfast John miller
Speaker 2: does that. IMPERSONATION i almost peeded my. PANTS i was
Speaker 2: laughing so. Loud so don't ever underestimate how important THE
Speaker 2: pa guys are in baseball.
Speaker 1: History, McKinley i need your. Help this is my, daughter.
Speaker 1: McKinley she's almost. Three come, here. BEBY i need you
Speaker 1: to spin this wheel for.
Speaker 2: Me, Okays oh, boy, McKinley hope here we. Go put
Speaker 2: this down for a.
Speaker 1: Seconds she's been delivering me pizza slices as we.
Speaker 2: Record ah Thear, okay all, right, McKinley this is the.
Speaker 1: Wheel Of Kirchin, okay can you spin the ready? One, two?
Speaker 1: Three what did we? Get july? Fourth good job?
Speaker 2: Kidding oh, my that is, great. McKinley and we're coming
Speaker 2: up On july the, fourth And, jeff you can't talk
Speaker 2: About july the fourth unless you talk about the famous
Speaker 2: game where The braves and The mets played On july the,
Speaker 2: fourth When Rick camp hit the home run and the
Speaker 2: game ended at four o'clock in the, morning and they
Speaker 2: shot off the fireworks at four o'clock the, morning And
Speaker 2: Ron darling got the final out of that. Game the
Speaker 2: only reason we're bringing this, Up jet is if you
Speaker 2: haven't listened To Ron darling on the podcast last. Year
Speaker 2: the entire podcast was about That, july Famous july fourth
Speaker 2: Game mets And. Braves so that's Where i'm gonna leave.
Speaker 2: It there's no story THAT i could tell that can
Speaker 2: top anything that That Ron darling said that, day because
Speaker 2: he summed it up. Perfectly he captured it. Perfectly it was.
Speaker 2: Amazing way to, go, McKinley Hope july the, Fourth so
Speaker 2: she did at.
Speaker 1: Job all, right we have time for one, More. DAD i,
Speaker 1: mean this is the most friends we've.
Speaker 2: Gone let's do.
Speaker 1: It here we Go wheel Of kirchin final spin head first.
Speaker 1: Slides what do you got for?
Speaker 2: That, okay, yeah this is a little bit. TECHNICAL i
Speaker 2: don't THINK i have any really great story, here BUT
Speaker 2: i just know That Ricky henderson slid head first like
Speaker 2: almost every single time he stole a, base and he
Speaker 2: stole more bases than anyone in. History Lou, brock of,
Speaker 2: course stole the second most bases of anyone in. History
Speaker 2: and he always went feet. First And Luke brock told,
Speaker 2: me he, SAID i used my feet as a, weapon
Speaker 2: Like i'm going in there hard with, spikes and my
Speaker 2: legs are, strong and they don't want to tag me
Speaker 2: If i'm coming in that. Hard so there are two
Speaker 2: ways to look at the head first. Slide DO i
Speaker 2: go with feet first or DO i go? Headfirst AND
Speaker 2: i always Thought Louke brock made a lot of, sense
Speaker 2: But Ricky henderson told, Me, hey the fastest way to
Speaker 2: get there is head. First And Roberto alomar used to
Speaker 2: tell you used to slide headfirst into first. Base almar
Speaker 2: is one of the greatest base Runners i've ever. Seen
Speaker 2: he could, fly but HE i wouldn't say, routinely BUT
Speaker 2: i saw him a lot of times slide headfirst into first.
Speaker 2: Base AND i, Said, robbie most people people will tell
Speaker 2: you it's not the fastest way to. Go and he, goes,
Speaker 2: well you're, right because most people don't know how to
Speaker 2: slide head. First but he, SAID i know how to
Speaker 2: slide head. FIRST i know how to use my momentum
Speaker 2: and just take it into the. Slide and he, said
Speaker 2: but other guys have to slow down in order to
Speaker 2: get their body. Ready you should never slide into first
Speaker 2: base head first unless you really know what you're. Doing
Speaker 2: does that make sense to, You, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i know this isn't a head first. Slide
Speaker 1: BUT i always love when THE nfl and college football
Speaker 1: season's on and you hear the broadcasters, say, well you
Speaker 1: could tell that kid played baseball growing up if they
Speaker 1: make a great slide giving themselves up, right or if
Speaker 1: they make a terrible, one you, think, yep they never
Speaker 1: stole second in a little league game in their life
Speaker 1: because they never slid.
Speaker 2: Right sliding is an, Art. Jeb people practice. Sliding Buck
Speaker 2: showalder always told us you have to be able to
Speaker 2: slide on both, legs meaning you have to know how
Speaker 2: to slide on your left leg on your right leg, hook,
Speaker 2: slide everything, else but headfirst is a very interesting. Dynamic
Speaker 2: i'm all for sliding, headfirst but if you don't know
Speaker 2: how to do, it you shouldn't go headfirst into first
Speaker 2: base because it's the only base that you're allowed to run.
Speaker 1: Through, so if you learned two things from the podcast,
Speaker 1: today sliding is an art form and traveling is a
Speaker 1: violation that and is this a great game or what?
Speaker 1: Right and we also learned that Pop up is ninety
Speaker 1: three years, old so that's. Great born in nineteen thirty. Three,
Speaker 1: dad you look. Great y'all look. Great thank, You Jeff,
Speaker 1: well thank you so much for, listening Rich donnelly on
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