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James Wood and Ted Williams, You Won't Believe This Comparison

Who looks like who? Jeff had quite the concert-going experience this week. The White Sox scored 10 runs in a single inning—how often are we seeing that in today's pitching era? And of course, the Phillies found another way to keep things interesting until the ninth inning.

Dansby Swanson, Kyle Schwarber, and Dylan Cease headline this week's Quirkjians. Plus, James Wood becomes the subject of a conversation thanks to a comparison to Ted Williams... sort of. We'll explain.

On This Date in Baseball History, we look back at Craig Biggio's incredible hit-by-pitch total, two cycles in the same week, and why Harmon Killebrew's name is as memorable as his career. Oh, and yes—Moonlight Graham was a real player.

Inspired by Moonlight Graham, Tim brings us a special Team Tim. You may not have heard this one on the show before, but you might remember it from his Twitter a few years ago. Then we spin the Wheel of Kurkjian for more fascinating stories and even a special guest appearance. Thanks for listening and as always, thanks for being a part of our family!

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Is This a Great Game?

Speaker 1: Or What with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm

Speaker 1: his son, Jeff Kirkshin. Dad, I had a late night

Speaker 1: last night, even though I have a two week old

Speaker 1: I was out at a concert for my country music

Speaker 1: radio job. We had an artist, Hardy, who you don't

Speaker 1: need to know who he is. It's okay, he's a

Speaker 1: country artist, he's rock artist. He kind of does it all,

Speaker 1: but Dad, we hosted a lookalike contest, so listeners all

Speaker 1: across the concert dressing as him, kids, adults, men, women,

Speaker 1: everybody to try to meet him. So whoever looked the

Speaker 1: most like him on voting got to meet him. And

Speaker 1: I too, did a lookalike contest with him, and quite frankly,

Speaker 1: I got to say I looked I looked pretty good.

Speaker 1: I looked pretty good.

Speaker 2: You looked a little bit like him, is what you're saying.

Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I I decided that if we're gonna do

Speaker 1: a Hearty lookalike contest, I myself need to try to

Speaker 1: look like him, and so I'm gonna put a picture

Speaker 1: up if you follow us on YouTube. I'm also gonna

Speaker 1: put it on our social media, but Dad, just so

Speaker 1: you can kind of see it's it's it's tough with

Speaker 1: the lighting. But he's clearly eight inches taller than me.

Speaker 1: But I dressed like.

Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, is is he five feet tall?

Speaker 2: Because that's the only way you could look like him.

Speaker 2: There's a guy who's two three inches shorter than you.

Speaker 1: He's probably six even, maybe five ten, five eleven. But uh,

Speaker 1: it's just you know, it was just funny, and I'm

Speaker 1: sure that kind of stuff has happening across Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1: Maybe a giveaway they did in a stadium where you

Speaker 1: got to dress like, you know, Steve Carlton or something

Speaker 1: like that.

Speaker 2: Right, well, yeah, they've done all sorts of things. One

Speaker 2: of my favorite things evolves Tito Francona. Of course, almost

Speaker 2: everything involves Tito Francona. But he wanted to pope fun

Speaker 2: at Dustin Pedroia, his great second baseman, because they were

Speaker 2: absolute best friends when Tito was the manager and Dustin

Speaker 2: Pedroia was the second baseman. So Tito arranged for John Clayton,

Speaker 2: the late great John Clayton, one of the great football

Speaker 2: guys ever. And he arranged for John Clayton, who looks

Speaker 2: a little bit like Dustin Pedroia. I don't see I

Speaker 2: don't see it. But he arranged to have John Clayton

Speaker 2: like do a little video of Dustin Pedroia, like pretending

Speaker 2: to be Dustin Pedroia. And then they played it throughout

Speaker 2: the clubhouse, and apparently the whole place went crazy. They

Speaker 2: were laughing so loud. It was so typical of Tito

Speaker 2: to take you know, John Clayton, one of my favorite

Speaker 2: people ever, but a non athletic looking football writer, was

Speaker 2: playing the part of Dustin and pretending to be him.

Speaker 2: And Jeff, when you're playing baseball, the game is this

Speaker 2: hard to play. It's it's okay to have a little

Speaker 2: fun and poke fun, especially in people like Pedroia who

Speaker 2: could take it.

Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely that. And and Tito is known for his

Speaker 1: clubhouse being a place of baseball, yes, of course, but

Speaker 1: also of fun. I mean he made those runs with

Speaker 1: those Red Sox teams and those Guardians teams and now

Speaker 1: that Red team who did not look like a playoff

Speaker 1: team for most of the year. You have to give

Speaker 1: a lot of credit to him and the clubhouse that

Speaker 1: he keeps. And we love him and he's a former

Speaker 1: guest of the show. We caught him in his retirement

Speaker 1: era that one year he took off, which was so

Speaker 1: much fun. That was a great interview, right.

Speaker 2: And and Brent Souter, who can picture for the Angels? Now?

Speaker 2: Who can impersonate like anyone does? The greatest Jim Carrey ever.

Speaker 2: I told you this that he can do a great

Speaker 2: Tito francona personation when he was with the Reds last year.

Speaker 2: And Tito told us his spring he said, you know,

Speaker 2: Suitor used to just come into my office and want

Speaker 2: to talk to me about things and everything. I don't

Speaker 2: think he ever really wanted to talk to me. I

Speaker 2: think he was just trying to work on his impression

Speaker 2: on my manners. So he would just stop in and say, hey, Skip,

Speaker 2: like what are we doing in the bullpen tomorrow or

Speaker 2: something like that. He was like working on his impersonation.

Speaker 2: I that's so brent Suitor to do that, because he's

Speaker 2: wicked smart and really funny and a great teammate guy.

Speaker 2: And Tito, of course, anyone can make fun of him

Speaker 2: and he will take it better than anybody.

Speaker 1: Well. I remember years ago spring training, Jonathan Papplebond did

Speaker 1: an impression of Tito Francona on Baseball Tonight with you guys.

Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I was standing right next to him, and it.

Speaker 1: Was like eight thousand seeds, right, because that's what he's like,

Speaker 1: spitting him out while he's talking like Tito.

Speaker 2: It was his It's derekally funny. It was so so good.

Speaker 2: And again, gotta have a good sense of humor to

Speaker 2: play this game, because the game will tear you to

Speaker 2: pieces if you don't. I Jeff's speaking of a good

Speaker 2: sense of humor. I need one this week. You'll need

Speaker 2: one every day for the next twenty five years until

Speaker 2: your children are grown up. Okay, but I'm doing a

Speaker 2: lot of traveling here, Jeff, And I don't know why

Speaker 2: I found this kind of amusing, but I checked in

Speaker 2: the airport the other day and I had to show

Speaker 2: my ID and all this, and the lady behind that

Speaker 2: counter looks at my license, which my driver's license, which

Speaker 2: expires in twenty thirty three, which I didn't even know that,

Speaker 2: But she looks at me and says, just checking a

Speaker 2: few things. You're born in nineteen thirty three, correct, that's

Speaker 2: what she said. No, she read my license wrong, So

Speaker 2: I just I just looked at her because she really

Speaker 2: wasn't looking at me three years old. I said, I'm

Speaker 2: not yet. I said, yes, I am ninety three years old,

Speaker 2: and she, I guess, got a little bit of a

Speaker 2: kick out of that, but she was She apologized. I said,

Speaker 2: don't worry, I'm not ninety three years old. But that's

Speaker 2: what she said, born in nineteen thirty three. Yes, ma'am,

Speaker 2: I'm ninety three years old. That was really, really.

Speaker 1: That is hilarious.

Speaker 2: You know.

Speaker 1: I remember a friend of mine's a bartender, and he said,

Speaker 1: you know when I can't remember well, I mean, obviously

Speaker 1: it's by the time twenty twenty hit. When he would

Speaker 1: check IDs, he said, I would just have to look

Speaker 1: at the nineteen for the and that was it. You

Speaker 1: didn't even need to look at the rest of the

Speaker 1: year because if you were born in nineteen something. And

Speaker 1: then it made me feel dad Like when I'm a

Speaker 1: grandfather and we're talking, like when it's twenty seventy and

Speaker 1: I'm seventy odds some years old, right, my grandkids are

Speaker 1: going to look at me and say, you were born

Speaker 1: in nineteen insert year here, and yeah, I was born

Speaker 1: in a different generation, a different decade, different millennium. I mean,

Speaker 1: my goodness, I'm gonna feel I'm ninety three, so nineteen

Speaker 1: ninety three not ninety three years old, and I'll be

Speaker 1: able to, you know, wear that until the end of

Speaker 1: the twenty first century, probably.

Speaker 2: Right, Jeff. A lot of travel this week for me,

Speaker 2: A lot of trips to Bristol for baseball, Tonight's Sports Center,

Speaker 2: a bunch of things, all good, no complaints here, But

Speaker 2: never forget what my dear friend Alex Wolf. I worked

Speaker 2: with him at Sports Illustrated, one of the great writers

Speaker 2: ever and one of the great basketball minds that I've

Speaker 2: ever seen. We were talking about all the terrible travel

Speaker 2: we've had, and I've used this a million times with you, Jeff,

Speaker 2: stealing it, of course from Alex Wolf. He looked at

Speaker 2: me once and he goes, Tim, Never forget traveling is

Speaker 2: a violation, and boy is it ever There's no telling

Speaker 2: what could happen when you're traveling. You might be mistaken

Speaker 2: for someone who is ninety three years old. How about that, Dad?

Speaker 1: Top three things you quoted when I was a kid.

Speaker 1: Traveling is a violation, Pumba, you are a pig and holgad.

Speaker 1: If I had to make three, you've quoted more than anything.

Speaker 1: It's those three.

Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I was such a good teacher teaching. We

Speaker 2: use so many good lessons in life. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: Well, I knew who's on first before I knew my alphabet.

Speaker 1: So when I went to kindergarten, people said, well, what's

Speaker 1: on second? And they said, ABC, I have no idea,

Speaker 1: but I don't know. He's on third base?

Speaker 2: Right right? Teacher would say I don't know, and you

Speaker 2: would say third base idea? All right?

Speaker 1: Why because we're not getting into him. He's our picture,

Speaker 1: all right, Dad, before we jump into the takeaways. Tomorrow's

Speaker 1: guest is gonna be iconic, so funny. I'm so excited

Speaker 1: to bring it to members of the family.

Speaker 2: Yeah, my dear friend rich Donley will be our guest tomorrow.

Speaker 2: Rich is the greatest batting practice pitcher ever, and I

Speaker 2: don't think we've ever talked about great BP pictures on

Speaker 2: this podcast. He's also maybe one of the greatest third

Speaker 2: base coaches of all time. There is an art and

Speaker 2: a skill to being a third base coach. Uh. He

Speaker 2: tells the greatest stories ever. I've known him for almost

Speaker 2: fifty years, and few people make me laugh as loud

Speaker 2: as Rich Donley does, so tune in tomorrow. He'll tell

Speaker 2: you a bunch of stories about BP and about coach

Speaker 2: at third and you know he worked with Doug Raider

Speaker 2: and Jim Leland and he's seen but he was on

Speaker 2: the same team as Barry Bonds. Some great, great stories

Speaker 2: from Rich.

Speaker 1: Plus some Home Run Derby stories. You know, we're coming

Speaker 1: up on the All Star break and he, I mean,

Speaker 1: he is the OG, as we would say, you know

Speaker 1: what that means.

Speaker 2: Dad, offensive guard? Right, that's it.

Speaker 1: You nailed it. He is the offensive guard of the

Speaker 1: Home Run Derby. Nailed it, Dad, And so we're going

Speaker 1: to talk a lot.

Speaker 2: What is an OG? Jeah? What is it going to it? There?

Speaker 1: So technically means original gangster, but like it's just become

Speaker 1: like the original, like the first, the most important. Right

Speaker 1: when you think of the Home Run Derby, you can

Speaker 1: think of rich Donnelly because he was known as the

Speaker 1: guy who who was throwing VP for the Home Run

Speaker 1: Derby before it got to the way it is today.

Speaker 1: So that's what the OG means.

Speaker 2: Og original Gangster. Was there any reason, I.

Speaker 1: Take thousands of things, I didn't think Tim Kirschen would

Speaker 1: ever say original gangster?

Speaker 2: Yea, if it doesn't make any sense, how can that

Speaker 2: be a thing. If it doesn't make any.

Speaker 1: Sense, it does make that it's well, it's from you know,

Speaker 1: hip hop and rap culture. I'm sure it's from a

Speaker 1: song that I can't even quote at this point, but

Speaker 1: it basically means the first right, He's an original gangster.

Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump into the takeaways, Dad, what do you have

Speaker 1: across Major League base?

Speaker 2: All right, So the White Sox beat the Royals the

Speaker 2: other day twenty two to one, and they had a

Speaker 2: ten run inning. And Jeff, we have had seven ten

Speaker 2: run innings this year. So the only season in it

Speaker 2: was in two thousand and five in which there were

Speaker 2: more ten run innings before the month of July was

Speaker 2: in two thousand and five when there were eight. So, Jeff,

Speaker 2: it's odd to me. I'm confused and I'm intrigued that

Speaker 2: I say every week on this podcast, how does anyone

Speaker 2: get a hit anymore? But once guys start to get hits,

Speaker 2: that just seems to snowball. And they scored ten runs

Speaker 2: in an inning seventh time this year that a team

Speaker 2: has scored ten runs an inning. Do you have any

Speaker 2: thoughts on this, Like, why does this happen? Teams can't

Speaker 2: score any runs these days. It's so hard to get

Speaker 2: a hit, and then all of a sudden they're thrown

Speaker 2: up ten in an inning. What is that?

Speaker 1: Well, it's all or nothing. And I also feel like

Speaker 1: in the element of keeping our pitchers safe, I don't

Speaker 1: have the stats to back this up, but I do

Speaker 1: have what I believe to be kind of an opinion.

Speaker 1: When it comes to pitchers, you're staying in longer when

Speaker 1: it comes to not starters per se, but like relievers,

Speaker 1: like just leave him out there, he'll give up a

Speaker 1: couple more runs, because at that point, when you're giving

Speaker 1: up five runs, the teams are saying, we're gonna lose

Speaker 1: this game anyway, right, because we're not going to come

Speaker 1: back because it's so hard to get a hit. So

Speaker 1: I feel like these relievers are taking more and more

Speaker 1: damage out there before they get changed out to prevent

Speaker 1: injury and running too many pitchers at one time, right,

Speaker 1: I mean, like you're throwing thrown position players.

Speaker 2: That's a good point, right, And position players are giving

Speaker 2: up some of these home runs and some of these runs.

Speaker 2: Once you get to a ten run inning, nobody hesitates

Speaker 2: any more to put a position player in. As I

Speaker 2: told you, Jeff, when I first started covering late seventies,

Speaker 2: early eighties, you would see one, maybe two position players

Speaker 2: pitch during a season. Now it's all almost every night

Speaker 2: you see a position player pitch in order to keep

Speaker 2: the real pitchers healthy. I understand, and I think this

Speaker 2: next note is, you know, kind of connected. Also helped

Speaker 2: me here. But Hunter Goodman of the Rockies hit three

Speaker 2: homers in a game the other day. So he's the

Speaker 2: sixth guy this year to have a three homer game.

Speaker 2: We've had four of them in the last twelve days.

Speaker 2: Is this the all or nothing thing? Also, do you

Speaker 2: think that we know they're going to the play thinking

Speaker 2: damage where let's hit it in the upper deck as

Speaker 2: opposed to a soft single to left field? Do you

Speaker 2: think that's where we are.

Speaker 1: On this one thousand percent we're swinging for the fences

Speaker 1: or we're striking out and going back to the digout's

Speaker 1: that's baseball in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2: It's no doubt, all right. The other thing we've done

Speaker 2: on the podcast, Like every week, Jeff, least at least

Speaker 2: about ten weeks, I have asked you to name three

Speaker 2: five hundred home run hitters who never hit three homers

Speaker 2: in a game. I think we did this last week.

Speaker 2: Let's see if you can remember.

Speaker 1: Davidez, Yes, definitely one of them. For Thomas No, well, he.

Speaker 2: Might not have, but I don't know that. Gary Sheffield

Speaker 2: and Raphael palmerow all hit five hundred homers, never hit

Speaker 2: three in a game. And yet we've had four guys

Speaker 2: do it in the last twelve days. And speaking of explosions, Jeff,

Speaker 2: you're a big Phillies fan because you live in PHILADELPHIAU

Speaker 2: and Emily loved the Phillies. I think it's great. So

Speaker 2: the Phillies became the first team ever, Jeff to hit

Speaker 2: a go ahead Just finish the note, Jeff, first team

Speaker 2: ever to do what?

Speaker 1: Hit a go ahead home run in the ninth inning

Speaker 1: in three straight games?

Speaker 2: Jeff? That is I mean, this is why I love

Speaker 2: baseball so much. Is that things happen that make you

Speaker 2: slap your forehead, things happen that you've never seen before. Well,

Speaker 2: in this case, no one has ever seen is because

Speaker 2: no one has ever done that before.

Speaker 1: And here here's the embarrassing part of the note. Every

Speaker 1: single night I went to bed before the ninth inning

Speaker 1: because I have a two week old son sleeping in

Speaker 1: the bedroll.

Speaker 2: You right, and you have have to get up at

Speaker 2: four thirty to go to work.

Speaker 1: Every day I'm up at three thirty. I leave the

Speaker 1: house at four thirty. So every morning I open my phone,

Speaker 1: I open the box score, and I go, oh my gosh,

Speaker 1: they won, and I'm happy. Night two, Oh my gosh,

Speaker 1: they won, and I'm upset because I didn't watch it.

Speaker 1: Night three. Morning, next note, I go, oh my, I'm apoplectic.

Speaker 1: I'm so angry that I didn't stay up at that point.

Speaker 2: Come on, So the day after the third game in

Speaker 2: which the Phillies hit a go at homer in the

Speaker 2: ninth against the Nationals, of course I saw the Nationals

Speaker 2: against the Orioles in Baltimore, and I saw Blake Butterra,

Speaker 2: thirty three year old manager for the Nats. Really smart guy,

Speaker 2: really good guy, and has done each job with that

Speaker 2: team so far. So I see him, and essentially the

Speaker 2: first thing he asked me, which was right away, was

Speaker 2: how many great notes did you get out of that

Speaker 2: our last three games. Now, Look, he was crushed, he

Speaker 2: was furious. He was I said, did you even sleep?

Speaker 2: He goes, I haven't slept in three nights. That's how

Speaker 2: much those games hurt him. But because he loves baseball,

Speaker 2: he is intrigued that we've played for, you know, one

Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years of baseball and what just happened

Speaker 2: in those three games had never happened before. Even though

Speaker 2: it happened to his team and nearly killed him, he

Speaker 2: was still intrigued by you do you find that to

Speaker 2: be healthy for a manager? I think it is.

Speaker 1: I think losing sleep is something that we don't talk

Speaker 1: about enough when it comes to our baseball players. I mean,

Speaker 1: you know, you've talked about players who say they feel

Speaker 1: like they're never going to get a hit again when

Speaker 1: they go on to a slump and they're having trouble

Speaker 1: sleeping and they're traveling. But if you love the game,

Speaker 1: you got to recognize, like, this is crazy that this

Speaker 1: would happen. But yeah, when you blow that many saves,

Speaker 1: it's a little tough to.

Speaker 2: Be the right And another really healthy thing that that

Speaker 2: happened while I was talking to Blake but Tero and

Speaker 2: I had a nice chat with him. After about fifteen minutes,

Speaker 2: he looked at me and said, how well do you

Speaker 2: know Buck Showalter? And I said, well, I know it

Speaker 2: better than almost anybody. I talked to him all the time.

Speaker 2: And Blake but Terra said, I would love, love, love

Speaker 2: to talk to Buck Showalter. I've never met him before,

Speaker 2: but I would just love to pick his brain. And

Speaker 2: I found this to be very healthy that a thirty

Speaker 2: three year old manager isn't walking around like, hey, I'm

Speaker 2: one of thirty now, I'm smarter than everyone else. He

Speaker 2: is saying I need to reach out and talk to

Speaker 2: Buck so I can learn more about my craft, about

Speaker 2: the game and everything else I don't know. I thought

Speaker 2: I was very encouraged that any young person in the

Speaker 2: game today would reach out to someone who's my age,

Speaker 2: sixty nine years old and say, I really need to

Speaker 2: talk to him. So I hope them up. I'm not

Speaker 2: sure if they've talked yet, but I thought that was great.

Speaker 2: That's just me.

Speaker 1: I mean, that's a sign of maturity for sure. I mean,

Speaker 1: you can't doubt that he wants to learn and pick

Speaker 1: his brain. And that's just the love of the game.

Speaker 1: It's love of baseball. And we've had Buck Showalter on

Speaker 1: the podcast twice and every time I learn something, every

Speaker 1: time I'm sponging it up because he's just got a

Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge in such a great perspective and a

Speaker 1: great storyteller.

Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, all right, Jeff, we had a rough week

Speaker 2: for defense this week in baseball. Now, look, let's be clear.

Speaker 2: These guys are so amazing athletically, you know, they get

Speaker 2: to balls that nobody got to fifty years ago. They

Speaker 2: jump over the fence and make catches, they make diving throws,

Speaker 2: they make throws diving catches, they make throws that you

Speaker 2: can't believe. So let's be clear today's player are They're

Speaker 2: more athletic than they've ever been. But like the Mets,

Speaker 2: we'll get to them in a minute. The Mets made

Speaker 2: six errors in one game, Jeff, and all four infielders

Speaker 2: made an error. In the same game. The Yankees had

Speaker 2: such a terrible game that Cam Schlitzler gave up six runs,

Speaker 2: all of them unearned, so the only runs scored against

Speaker 2: the Yankees in that game were unearned runs. The last

Speaker 2: time the Yankees gave up six runs or more, all

Speaker 2: of them unearned, was in nineteen thirty one. And then

Speaker 2: the Orioles, who I saw the other night, had a

Speaker 2: terrible final inning, had a difficult trip to Anaheim, but

Speaker 2: they had a terrible final inning, and a scout friend

Speaker 2: of mine told me it was like watching kids during

Speaker 2: a snowball fight. That's how the ball was being thrown

Speaker 2: all over the place. And again a former manager told me,

Speaker 2: you know, Tim, just face it. And I don't believe this,

Speaker 2: but he said, face it. Defense what players do in

Speaker 2: between there at bats, And he was trying to say,

Speaker 2: we don't concentrate enough on defense today. I think the

Speaker 2: defense is really really good, but when you see lapses

Speaker 2: mentally and six errors in a game, it makes you wonder,

Speaker 2: you know, do we care too much about how far

Speaker 2: we can hit it as opposed to how well can

Speaker 2: we catch it and throw it? Am I being too

Speaker 2: critical here?

Speaker 1: I firmly believe omar Viskel, I don't have this indirect knowledge,

Speaker 1: probably doesn't like watching a lot of Major League Baseball

Speaker 1: games anymore because the defense of the game just isn't

Speaker 1: an emphasis anymore.

Speaker 2: Right, defense right, And they should, especially with as hard

Speaker 2: as it is to pitch today. Speaking of the Mets Jet,

Speaker 2: we have to mention that they fired their manager, Carlos Mendoza,

Speaker 2: and they're moving on from here. It's not just at

Speaker 2: this writing, at this taping jet that they're thirteen games

Speaker 2: under five hundred since June thirteenth of twenty twenty five,

Speaker 2: when they had the best record in baseball they have played,

Speaker 2: they have They are thirty games under five hundred. They

Speaker 2: are seventy three and one hundred and three since June thirteenth,

Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. You know, they're twenty sixth in the

Speaker 2: league in run scored, they're twenty seventh and starters era

Speaker 2: and again they've been just crushed by injuries Francisco Lindor

Speaker 2: and Lon Soto and Luis Robert Junior. But they have

Speaker 2: a long way to go, and I just don't see

Speaker 2: them making the playoffs this year. You see the same thing.

Speaker 1: Well, and also in NL East, where the Marlins are

Speaker 1: surprising everybody. I mean, as of taping, they won four straight.

Speaker 1: The Phillies have turned it around since getting rid of

Speaker 1: their manager, Rob Thompson and going towards you know, a

Speaker 1: new era, and they've been playing great baseball. And of

Speaker 1: course the Braves. Braves have always been good. But now

Speaker 1: they're top the NL East and they, you know, slowing

Speaker 1: down a bit. But I mean that's three great teams

Speaker 1: you have to get past. And not to mention the Nationals.

Speaker 1: I mean, they just dropped three straight against the Phillies,

Speaker 1: but they were over five hundred for a good portion

Speaker 1: of the season. So it's it's a strong NL East,

Speaker 1: and I just don't see the Mets pulling away, not

Speaker 1: this l y.

Speaker 2: I agree. And we can't do a takeaway without talking

Speaker 2: about Jacob Mazerowski because every time he goes to the mound,

Speaker 2: something happens that just makes you slap your forehead. So

Speaker 2: this in his last start, he threw a pitch at

Speaker 2: one hundred and five point five miles an hour. Chet,

Speaker 2: I mean, what is the end to this? Is someone

Speaker 2: going to throw it one hundred and ten miles an

Speaker 2: hour someday? I can't imagine, but I never imagine anyone

Speaker 2: throwing it at one hundred and five miles an hour. So

Speaker 2: I worked with Adam Attavino the other day on Baseball Tonight.

Speaker 2: Former pitcher went to Northeastern. Really really smart guy and

Speaker 2: can break down the mechanics and pitching just about as

Speaker 2: well as anyone. So he was still He told us

Speaker 2: off air the other day that he had to break

Speaker 2: down the Mizowski fifteen strikeout, no walk, one hit complete game,

Speaker 2: in which he threw ninety five pitches, the last one

Speaker 2: at one hundred and three miles an hour. So he said,

Speaker 2: I had to break it down, And he said, and

Speaker 2: I couldn't because it was just it was just too easy.

Speaker 2: Here's what he said. This guy throws so fast that

Speaker 2: nobody can hit it, and because he throws so many strikes,

Speaker 2: you have to swing at it, and therefore you swing

Speaker 2: and miss. That was his analysis on one of the

Speaker 2: greatest pitching performances ever. And you know what, he's right, Jeb,

Speaker 2: you could talk about all this other stuff, and I

Speaker 2: talk about the armslot and all that stuff, how different

Speaker 2: it is. And he six' seven and extension one hundred and,

Speaker 2: four one hundred and five and you can locate. It

Speaker 2: that's the end of the, analysis AM i?

Speaker 1: Right that's. It and when you're that efficient and throwing

Speaker 1: that many, strikes, right you gotta. Swing so oh that's. Incredible,

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Speaker 1: dad let's go into the court. Gins what do you.

Speaker 2: Have, well it's a little, late But Dansby swanson of The,

Speaker 2: cubs hitting ninth in the, order basically drove in eleven

Speaker 2: runs in a doubleheader the other day against against The.

Speaker 2: Mets Ron santo had The cub record with ten in

Speaker 2: a double header In july nineteen. Seventy swanson also drove

Speaker 2: in fifteen runs in three games against The. Mets they

Speaker 2: played a four game. Series he didn't drive in a

Speaker 2: run in the fourth. Game but the only other players

Speaker 2: to have fifteen RBIs in a three game stretch against

Speaker 2: the same team Are Reggie, jackson lou gerrig And Tony,

Speaker 2: lazeri All hall of. Famers that's What Dansby swanson. Did

Speaker 2: eleven RBIs jeff in a double he but you remember

Speaker 2: the Great yogi Bear astat from the minor? Leagues how

Speaker 2: many runs did he drive in in that double? Header

Speaker 2: and his Granddaughter Lindsey right absolutely confirmed all of.

Speaker 1: THIS i can't remember the.

Speaker 2: Number Yogi barra drove in twenty three.

Speaker 1: RUNS i THOUGHT i was twenty.

Speaker 2: RIGHT i went To yogi AND i, Said, yogi how

Speaker 2: is that? Possible and typically and he only hit one

Speaker 2: homer with twenty three RBIs and a. Doubleheader he had

Speaker 2: twelve in the first, game eleven in the, second And,

Speaker 2: yogi Typical yogi just, said, well every time he came

Speaker 2: to the, plate the bases were, loaded and then he

Speaker 2: hit like three three run, doubles three three run. Triples

Speaker 2: it was just. Insane it was absolutely. Crazy so that's,

Speaker 2: it all. Right, So Kyle, schoreber your boy was intentionally

Speaker 2: walked with nobody on base in the ninth inning the other.

Speaker 2: Night so he gets an intentional walk with nobody on,

Speaker 2: base and you, know you just don't see very much of.

Speaker 2: That but remember two thousand and, two just to show

Speaker 2: you how Great Barry bonds was in his, prime he

Speaker 2: got walked eight times in one season intentionally with nobody on.

Speaker 2: Base is that stunning to, You, Jeff you're a.

Speaker 1: Threat it's the greatest compliment a player could. GET i

Speaker 1: really believe that in eight times in one season For Arry.

Speaker 2: Bonds. Right willie McCovey used to own the record for

Speaker 2: most intentional walks in a season with forty, five and

Speaker 2: Then barry came along and had a season in which

Speaker 2: he had one hundred and twenty intentional. Walks one hundred and.

Speaker 2: Twenty he had more intentional WALKS i believe than any

Speaker 2: nationallygue player that year had walks. Total he had one

Speaker 2: hundred and. Twenty, yeah that's very bonds for, you all, Right,

Speaker 2: JEFF i got a kick out of. This Eric louer

Speaker 2: of The dodgers the other day pitched six hitless innings in.

Speaker 2: Relief you, know it's one of those opener situations where

Speaker 2: he's the second pitcher in and he pitched six no hit.

Speaker 2: Inning SO i Called frank from The elias to, say

Speaker 2: who's the last guy to do? That And Ken walld

Speaker 2: To chuck of The a's did it in twenty twenty,

Speaker 2: three so it's only been two. Years three. Years but

Speaker 2: three days After Eric lawerd, Did Ian seymour of The

Speaker 2: rays did the same. Thing he came into a game

Speaker 2: and pitched six and two thirds hitless. Baseball is that

Speaker 2: amazing that it hadn't happened in three years and the

Speaker 2: guy two guys did it in three.

Speaker 1: Days that always shocks. Me, DAD i definitely didn't think

Speaker 1: it would have been three. Years but you know who

Speaker 1: it reminds me of is is our Guest Kent. Murker,

Speaker 1: right that very much reminds me of. Him, now he

Speaker 1: was a starter and a believer and a closer in his.

Speaker 1: Career but that just sounds like A Kent merker stat

Speaker 1: something he was involved, in, right.

Speaker 2: Right, Yes Kent murker's so, funny all, Right Dylan. Cees On,

Speaker 2: Saturday jeff of The Blue jays had a ten strikeout

Speaker 2: game and he only pitched four and two thirds. Inning

Speaker 2: so that's the third time in his career that he

Speaker 2: has struck out ten or more in less than five.

Speaker 2: Innings and he's the first pitcher ever since the mound

Speaker 2: was moved to its current distance in eighteen ninety, three

Speaker 2: to have three different starts in which he had ten

Speaker 2: or more strikeouts in fewer than five. INNINGS i, mean

Speaker 2: he's the only guy ever to do. That he's done

Speaker 2: it three. Times it's, amazing isn't.

Speaker 1: It that's. Incredible that is, nuts all, Right.

Speaker 2: Jeb, now speaking of, incredible you know not how MUCH

Speaker 2: i Love James wood of The. Nationals his, Dad Kenny,

Speaker 2: wood is a good friend of. Mine we played old

Speaker 2: dog basketball for, years so, Please i'm not picking on.

Speaker 2: Anyone this is the game we play. Today But friday

Speaker 2: NIGHT i went to The Nationals orioles, game and that

Speaker 2: Night James wood struck out twice and therefore now has

Speaker 2: more strikeouts in his. Career and he's in his third,

Speaker 2: season not a third full, season because we're. Not we're

Speaker 2: halfway through this and didn't play a full season three years.

Speaker 2: Ago he now has more strikeouts Than tony gwyn did

Speaker 2: in his. Career So Tony wynn played twenty years And

Speaker 2: James wood has now played part of three. Years and

Speaker 2: he struck out for the four hundred and thirty fifth

Speaker 2: time to Pass Tony, gwynn who struck out four hundred

Speaker 2: and thirty four times in his. Career that's, amazing is it.

Speaker 1: Not it's a different. GAME i, mean we look at

Speaker 1: how many times did Did Ted williams strike out in one?

Speaker 1: Year And Joe DiMaggio And Yogi. Berra it's just a

Speaker 1: different world right, now right And jeff speak speaking of that,

Speaker 1: NOW i think the guys AT Opta, STATS i don't.

Speaker 2: Know who those people, are but they are. Great they're

Speaker 2: on the internet all the time and they come up

Speaker 2: with some MAD i think they came up with this

Speaker 2: stat BUT i have absolutely confirmed it That James wood

Speaker 2: has now faced more different pitchers in his major league

Speaker 2: career Than Ted williem, did So James wood has now

Speaker 2: at this at the taping as of the other, day

Speaker 2: had faced four hundred and fifty six different pitchers in

Speaker 2: his major league. Career AND i, repeat he's in his

Speaker 2: third year And Ted williams in his major league career

Speaker 2: faced four hundred and forty seven pitchers. Total, now so

Speaker 2: this kind of Supports this is How James wood has

Speaker 2: so many, strikeouts more Than Tony Gwinn and this could

Speaker 2: be said for a million guys in the. Game i'm

Speaker 2: just Using James wood as an. Example but when you

Speaker 2: see a different, picture like you go into a, game

Speaker 2: you see a guy five different pictures and you never

Speaker 2: faced any of. Them how hard do you think that,

Speaker 2: is especially when most of lever throwing ninety five to one.

Speaker 1: Hundred you, Agree, well you look at teams that have

Speaker 1: so much depth in their pitching, rotation they will throw

Speaker 1: a starting pitcher for way less innings and then put

Speaker 1: another quality starter in there because the more often you

Speaker 1: hit against the same, picture you start to recognize their.

Speaker 1: Mechanics so If Ted williams is only facing x amount

Speaker 1: of pictures And James wood has done that in two

Speaker 1: and a half. Seasons he's always got to try to figure, Out,

Speaker 1: okay who is this. Guy i've never seen him. Before

Speaker 1: that's crazy to think. About it's another, Portion. Dad it's

Speaker 1: not just the, speed it's not just the ability of the,

Speaker 1: pictures but it's the diversity of those pictures that they're.

Speaker 1: Facing they don't have time to learn a picture Because

Speaker 1: Ted williams FACED i don't, Know i'm making up a,

Speaker 1: number maybe the same picture ten, eleven twelve times in a,

Speaker 1: season and he's, like, OH i know this. Guy and

Speaker 1: when You're Ted, williams you don't forget what a guy's

Speaker 1: throwing where he's throwing. It because he's the greatest hitter

Speaker 1: of all time when it comes to the science of the.

Speaker 1: Game for goodness, sake he wrote.

Speaker 2: A book on, it, Right, yeah so. Jeah but let's be,

Speaker 2: clear as AS i always do defend the guys that came,

Speaker 2: before as people are going to, say, Oh Ted williams

Speaker 2: couldn't hit, Today look look out few pictures he. Faced, no, no,

Speaker 2: No Ted williams would figure anything. Out and this stat

Speaker 2: is just there to provide some context on What james

Speaker 2: would and today's hitters are up. Against. Not, Oh Ted

Speaker 2: williams had it easy facing these guys over and over. Again,

Speaker 2: No i'm not buying. That i'm not all. Right last, Thing,

Speaker 2: JEFF i BET i got twelve text messages emails from

Speaker 2: people who, said did you notice the matchup in The

Speaker 2: dodgers padres? Game Jack Dryer Face Gavin? Sheets so we

Speaker 2: had The Dryer sheets. Matchup, look we had it last.

Speaker 2: YEAR i was all over it last year and it

Speaker 2: happened two games in a row over the. Weekend, like

Speaker 2: how great is? That SO i don't want to be

Speaker 2: insulting and say when people are saying did you see? It,

Speaker 2: yes this is WHAT i live, for Our Dryer sheets.

Speaker 2: Matchups so it's just. Beautiful and you know how MUCH

Speaker 2: i love the names of the, game so it's really really.

Speaker 1: Good it really is. Great we got so many. Messages

Speaker 1: if you ever see a great, matchup you can go

Speaker 1: to Great game or what dot, com scroll down message

Speaker 1: us directly. There that's how my dad AND i can

Speaker 1: see your messages and respond to you. Directly we love

Speaker 1: people obviously who dms on, social but we get a

Speaker 1: lot of messages. There it's hard to get through them.

Speaker 1: All our red site is the real place to get

Speaker 1: to us great game or what dot? Com all?

Speaker 2: Right?

Speaker 1: Dad so moving on from our, questchns we go to

Speaker 1: on the state and baseball. History what do you have for?

Speaker 2: Us all? Right nineteen seventy, Seven Willy stargell hit on

Speaker 2: this date home run number four. Hundred so what did

Speaker 2: we learn About Willie stargell in the last couple of?

Speaker 2: Weeks he hit the most? Homers When jeff in the

Speaker 2: decade of the. Seventies oh, remember, Yeah REMEMBER i went

Speaker 2: to a. GAME i sat in the. Stands the knucklehead

Speaker 2: behind ME i don't even, know asked a trivia question

Speaker 2: to anyone who cares to and, said who hit the

Speaker 2: most homers in the? Seventies AND i knew the answer

Speaker 2: Was Willie. Stargell and he looks at me and he, goes, good,

Speaker 2: Guess but that's. Wrong he, Said no one's ever gotten

Speaker 2: this question. Right the answer Is Dave. Gigman well it

Speaker 2: Wasn't Dave. Gigman the reason no one ever got it

Speaker 2: right is because he had it. Wrong So Willie stargell

Speaker 2: hit the most homers in the, seventies and on this

Speaker 2: date in nineteen seventy, seven he hit number four hundred

Speaker 2: And Willie stargell was A hall Of fame player and

Speaker 2: one of the great team leaders ever. NOBODY i, MEAN

Speaker 2: i love being Around Willy, stargell and his teammates loved

Speaker 2: it even more THAN i. Did that's how great he,

Speaker 2: was all, Right. Jeff on this date in nineteen, Ninety

Speaker 2: Dave stewart And Fernando balezuela threw a no hitter on

Speaker 2: the same. Day wo pretty. Odd the last time that

Speaker 2: had Happened Hippo vaughn and Fred tony in nineteen. SEVENTEEN

Speaker 2: i remember that. Night it was crazy that there were two.

Speaker 1: Hitters you remember the nineteen seventeen. One you're, saying, right.

Speaker 2: Well i'm ninety three years, Old. Jeff as we've established

Speaker 2: from my trip to the airport the other, DAY i, said,

Speaker 2: YES i was there all. Right two thousand and, Five

Speaker 2: Craig bigio was hit by a pitch for the two

Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eighth, time which Passed Don baylor for

Speaker 2: the most in the modern. Era only in baseball in

Speaker 2: the modern era be defined as nineteen hundred on that's

Speaker 2: the modern, Era. JEFF i remember Asking. Bigio i've asked

Speaker 2: him many times about getting hit all the, time and he,

Speaker 2: SAID i promised, You, Tim i've taken more advil than

Speaker 2: anyone in the history Of basel because he got hit

Speaker 2: all the time and he played the. Game SO i

Speaker 2: checked With frank from The elias and for the first

Speaker 2: time he, Said, TIM i can't help you with. That

Speaker 2: we don't have advil in our data. Bank. Here is

Speaker 2: that the stupidest thing you've ever? Heard?

Speaker 1: Now adville consumed ac not a stat line on the

Speaker 1: box score On Baseball.

Speaker 2: Reference oh, BOY i remember Asking Don, baylor don'll be

Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty seven times that you got? Hit

Speaker 2: which one hurt the? Most and Remember Don baylor was a, big, big,

Speaker 2: strong tough man and one of the great Guys i've ever.

Speaker 2: MET i, SAID i said his nickname Was. GROOVE i, Said,

Speaker 2: groove which one hit the? Most and he looked at

Speaker 2: me and he, goes none of? Them and then we moved.

Speaker 2: On that's just how he looked at, it standing, There

Speaker 2: take it and run to first. Base so that was.

Speaker 2: Great on this date in twenty, Twelve Aaron hill hit

Speaker 2: for the cycle for the second time in a two week.

Speaker 2: Stretch two cycles in two, WEEKS i, mean that's that's pretty.

Speaker 2: Hard to. Do on this, date in nineteen thirty, Six

Speaker 2: Harmon killbrew was. Born he's one of the nicest People

Speaker 2: i've ever met in the, game one of the great

Speaker 2: power hitters of all. Time hall Of famer of, course

Speaker 2: five hundred. Homers let's see, If, jeff you'll never get this.

Speaker 2: One our Friend Bruce brown From, saber who's an absolute.

Speaker 2: GENIUS i can't even begin to tell you how UNCOMFORTABLE

Speaker 2: i am WHEN i have to talk to him because

Speaker 2: he knows so much more than me and everyone. Else

Speaker 2: he has come up with something called double unique about.

Speaker 2: Players do you know what a double unique, Is, JEFF

Speaker 2: i THINK i told you, THIS i can't. REMEMBER a

Speaker 2: double unique player is someone who has a first name

Speaker 2: that no one else in the history of baseball has

Speaker 2: and a last name that no one in the history

Speaker 2: of baseball. Has And harmon killer is a double. Unique

Speaker 2: Killer brew sounds right because how many people are Named.

Speaker 2: Killbrew BUT i was, surprised and this was a couple

Speaker 2: of years. Ago he told me this that there's no

Speaker 2: other player major league history with the first Name. Harmon

Speaker 2: So Harmon killerbrew is a double. Unique And Bruce brown

Speaker 2: has this entire list of players like hundreds and hundreds

Speaker 2: of them who are double, uniques Like, Urbina like you

Speaker 2: got a really weird first name and then an odd last,

Speaker 2: name But Harmon kilbrew is a double. Unique does that

Speaker 2: surprise you at?

Speaker 1: All, no it, doesn't BECAUSE i mean the first name

Speaker 1: that came to mind for, me and this is total

Speaker 1: fail was Yachti, Air like no one has that. Name

Speaker 1: but then of Course. Molina he's got multiple brothers played

Speaker 1: in the. Game SO i couldn't even come up with

Speaker 1: another double. Unique why don't we ask our. LISTENERS i

Speaker 1: know there's a list out, there And i'm not gonnaquiz.

Speaker 1: You i'm gonna ask our listener send us who you

Speaker 1: think is a double unique Across Major League. Baseball maybe

Speaker 1: we'll even get the commissioner to chime in as. Well

Speaker 1: not The commissioner Of, baseball he's really. Busy but we'll

Speaker 1: get our dear Friend. Mike, sure great game or what dot?

Speaker 1: Com give us a double unique that you love in

Speaker 1: this great game of? Baseball?

Speaker 2: Okay last this date in baseball, History. Jeff on this

Speaker 2: date in Nineteen Moonlight graham played only in the only

Speaker 2: game he ever played In Major league. Baseball you know

Speaker 2: he never got into. Bad he went and played right

Speaker 2: field for The New York giants or a couple innings

Speaker 2: in nineteen oh.

Speaker 5: Five no one's called Me Moonlight graham for fifty.

Speaker 2: Years one are the great movies, ever, Right.

Speaker 1: JEF a lot of people don't realize he he's a real.

Speaker 1: Player it's based on more or less a real name

Speaker 1: and a real, player and that stat line that they put,

Speaker 1: up it's. Real AND i absolutely love that, Movie. Dad

Speaker 1: it is our favorite baseball, Movie field Of, Dreams AND

Speaker 1: i remember the MOMENT i figured out that this is

Speaker 1: not about. Baseball it's about a father and a. Son

Speaker 1: if you build, it he will. Come and we're all

Speaker 1: thinking Shoeless Joe. Baby well sorry spoiler, alert but it's

Speaker 1: been like thirty, years so not quite a spoiler alert.

Speaker 1: Anymore it was his, dad Ray. Kinsella, OH i just love.

Speaker 2: GOOD i love it all. Right so it's a tribute

Speaker 2: To Moonlight. Graham i've never we've never used this on the, Podcast,

Speaker 2: jeff so it's, fresh even THOUGH i used this a

Speaker 2: long time. Ago, anyways all The All Eclipse, team because

Speaker 2: we have to Have Moonlight graham on. It our catcher

Speaker 2: on The All eclipse team Is Fernando lunar L u N. A.

Speaker 2: R Razor shines is our first. Baseman Razor shines was

Speaker 2: on our our list the other day right for The

Speaker 2: All Summer. Team Razor shines made The Team tim list

Speaker 2: two weeks in a. Row has anyone else ever done?

Speaker 1: That you better do The All barber team because we

Speaker 1: could have them on that next.

Speaker 2: Week very?

Speaker 1: Good, wait, dad let's have. You it doesn't have to

Speaker 1: be All, barber but can you come up with a Team? Tim,

Speaker 1: sorry now you're not gonna be able to sleep the

Speaker 1: rest of the week that Involves Razor. Shines you name it,

Speaker 1: well but it has to start With Razor, shines meaning

Speaker 1: like he has to be on the. Team so it

Speaker 1: could Be All barbara, team All Sharp instrument, team whatever

Speaker 1: you want to call, it but that is that is

Speaker 1: the Assignment i'm giving you and, family great game or

Speaker 1: What i'm on?

Speaker 2: It i'm on, it. Okay our second basement Is Moon.

Speaker 2: Mullen our third basement Is Hector. Luna our shortstop on

Speaker 2: The All Eclipse, Team Alvin Dark Moonlight graham is one

Speaker 2: of our. Outfielders of, Course Jorge solaire another, One Wally

Speaker 2: moon another. One Sky bolt is our designated hitter and

Speaker 2: our pitchers are Sun Wo Kim Ken cloud and this

Speaker 2: ONE i stole from one of our. GUYS i don't

Speaker 2: know who it, was but whoever Was Carl, hubble WHICH

Speaker 2: i thought was pretty Cool Hubble Sonny. Gray that makes,

Speaker 2: sense And JEFF i went back and looked at the

Speaker 2: list THAT i sent out On twitter like three years

Speaker 2: ago when there was a real, eclipse AND i LEFT

Speaker 2: i Left Blue Moon otum off the, list and no

Speaker 2: one was really angry about, it but they, like you

Speaker 2: can get angry On. Twitter but like everyone, said how

Speaker 2: could you leave blue Moon otem? Off, Well i'm not

Speaker 2: leaving him off this time on The All eclipse. Team

Speaker 2: the team tim On Is this A Great game or?

Speaker 2: What so that is My All eclipse, team all based

Speaker 2: on the fact That Moonlight graham was made his major

Speaker 2: his only major league appearents on this date in nineteen oh.

Speaker 1: Five so let's let's do it. Again Dad Razor shines

Speaker 1: next episode Of Is this A Great? Game Or what

Speaker 1: if members of the family want to come up with

Speaker 1: a team great? Game or what Dot com? Involve Razor

Speaker 1: shines more creative to better and we'll shout your team

Speaker 1: out next week or at the end of this, week

Speaker 1: because you know we're doing team tims that absolutely every

Speaker 1: single episode at this point a, Week.

Speaker 2: Jeff you know what kind of pressure that puts me

Speaker 2: under to come up with two a. Week And i'm

Speaker 2: working on one For july the, Fourth so that's gonna

Speaker 2: run this, week and it's may be the dumbest one,

Speaker 2: ever But i'm really working hard on. It probably too,

Speaker 2: hard but that's.

Speaker 6: Okay the wheel wheel up up curteed Who.

Speaker 1: All, right so thanks to your suggestions, again no, intro just,

Speaker 1: me uh your.

Speaker 2: Suggestions does everyone know what the wheel Of fortune mean the?

Speaker 2: Show everyone knows, that, Right it's a takeoff on The

Speaker 2: wheel Of, fortune, Right.

Speaker 1: Yeah for? Sure, YEAH i think it's it's common enough

Speaker 1: to know for. Sure this is the wheel Of. Kirkchain

Speaker 1: we've put your suggestions in my terrible handwriting onto the.

Speaker 1: Wheel we're gonna spin it And dad has to riff

Speaker 1: off of whatever we land. On are you ready pop?

Speaker 2: Up? Yes all, right here we.

Speaker 1: Go that's. WEIRD i don't ever call you pop up

Speaker 1: on The, pope BUT i do call you pop up

Speaker 1: exclusively outside of the.

Speaker 2: Pocket, okay here we. Go most people. Do, yeah most

Speaker 2: people call me poor pop.

Speaker 1: Up poor pop. Up Oh World? Cup how perfect is?

Speaker 2: That?

Speaker 1: Dad do you have any Soccer World cup baseball?

Speaker 2: Stories, Well i've told you how many great soccer players

Speaker 2: have played in the major. LEAGUES i told you That omar. Vs.

Speaker 2: SCALE i went to do a story on him in

Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five and HE i went out in his

Speaker 2: garage in his house In, seattle and he just dribbled

Speaker 2: a ball on his foot for like three. Minutes it

Speaker 2: was it was. BREATHTAKING i, MEAN i Can't i'm not

Speaker 2: a soccer, player never, was but it was pretty. Impressive

Speaker 2: AND i, Said, omar when's the last time you tried

Speaker 2: to do? That he, said like ten years? Ago and

Speaker 2: then he just picks up a ball and bounces it

Speaker 2: off his. Foot all, right, Now i'm gonna Set i'm

Speaker 2: going to ask a stupid hypothetical for, This. Jeff and,

Speaker 2: again this is just a compliment completely to all soccer

Speaker 2: players and soccer. Teams IF i picked up the best

Speaker 2: baseball team made out of former soccer, players, okay so

Speaker 2: all of them have to have some sort of soccer

Speaker 2: background to be on this baseball. Team playing soccer and

Speaker 2: they played against A World cup team where it's a real.

Speaker 2: Competition would the final score of that game Be let's

Speaker 2: say they play THE us team or any, Team, argentina,

Speaker 2: anybody and it's.

Speaker 1: Final all of these baseball players are in their, prime,

Speaker 1: right so.

Speaker 2: Right these are athletic. Guys they've all played soccer, before

Speaker 2: but they just haven't played in a long time because

Speaker 2: they're major league baseball. Players so and, again this is

Speaker 2: a compliment to soccer players, only not anything. Else would

Speaker 2: the final score be five to, nothing ten to, nothing

Speaker 2: fifteen to, nothing twenty to, nothing thirty to, nothing or

Speaker 2: something higher than thirty to. Nothing what would be the

Speaker 2: final score of a soccer game if The argentina team

Speaker 2: in The World cup were to play the best of

Speaker 2: the baseball player what's the final? Score?

Speaker 1: JEFF i think it's fifteen fifteen.

Speaker 2: NIL i.

Speaker 1: DON'T i don't think the baseball players are. SCORING i, think, well.

Speaker 2: We know they're not, Scoring. Jeff and that's not a

Speaker 2: blast On these are the best soccer players in the.

Speaker 2: World you think they would only score fifteen.

Speaker 1: GOALS i think eventually the all baseball team would just

Speaker 1: load the box and just say like we're we're not

Speaker 1: even going on the. Offensive, Right we're just gonna we're

Speaker 1: just we're just gonna line up by the goalie and

Speaker 1: hope that they don't get it past, us, right all

Speaker 1: defense AND i mean, granted their defensemen aren't even gonna

Speaker 1: have to worry about doing any work.

Speaker 2: Either so, yeah who would your who would your goalie

Speaker 2: be on the on the baseball player? Team how About Aaron?

Speaker 1: Judge Aaron judges.

Speaker 2: Athletic six?

Speaker 1: Hunter Was Tory hunter a soccer? Player or was he

Speaker 1: a Football he was a football.

Speaker 2: Player it was a football. Player, yeah all, right all,

Speaker 2: right so that let's throw it out there to our.

Speaker 2: Listeners and, again a compliment only to our soccer, players

Speaker 2: not a rip on baseball. Players AND i think it's

Speaker 2: at least twenty five to nothing at. Least BUT i

Speaker 2: don't know soccer very. WELL i don't know if YOU

Speaker 2: i don't. Know all, right keep, going all.

Speaker 1: Right let's spin the. Wheel here we, go next, One

Speaker 1: oh landed On World?

Speaker 2: Cup?

Speaker 1: Again here we, GO, pa, Guys, Dad, yeah.

Speaker 2: Public address guys are kind of lost in baseball. History

Speaker 2: and some of them are just the, greatest Like Sherm

Speaker 2: feller In boston was an absolute. Icon At Fenway park

Speaker 2: because that incredible raspy voice that he had an, evening

Speaker 2: boys and, girls it WAS i can't do any of.

Speaker 2: That he's one of the most famous of all. Time of,

Speaker 2: Course Rex barney worked In baltimore as THE pa guy

Speaker 2: in all those years THAT i covered The, orioles And

Speaker 2: rex was famous for saying whenever anybody caught a ball

Speaker 2: in the, stands he would, say give that fan a.

Speaker 2: Contract BUT i think the GREATEST pa guy of all

Speaker 2: time has got to Be Bob, shepherd who did The

Speaker 2: Yankee games for all those. Years And Bob shepherd is

Speaker 2: A english lit, professor one of the smartest people in the.

Speaker 2: World the language was so important to. Him the advice

Speaker 2: he gave To jeremy shapp once was you can never

Speaker 2: talk too. Slowly so When jeremy's learning how to do,

Speaker 2: television that's What Bob shepherd told, Him, like not only

Speaker 2: should you not rush through, anything don't ever do, that

Speaker 2: but you can never walk but talk too. Slowly So

Speaker 2: i'm going to give you the worst impersonation in the

Speaker 2: history of. Impersonations this is My Bob shepherd now.

Speaker 5: Betting full of The. Yankees the shortstop number Two Derek

Speaker 5: jeta number two pretty, Bad.

Speaker 1: Jeb that was pretty. GOOD i found it interesting that

Speaker 1: you had to have your eyes closed the whole, time

Speaker 1: but the impression itself was pretty.

Speaker 2: Good all. Right So John, miller the, hilarious Hilarious hall

Speaker 2: Of fame, Broadcaster he, said what If Bob shepherd is like,

Speaker 2: this like wherever he, goes like if he goes to order?

Speaker 2: Breakfast is this What Bob shepherd says in the? Restaurant he, says.

Speaker 5: Yes, MA'AM i will have the number two eggs over

Speaker 5: easy with toast number two?

Speaker 2: Two is that how he would order? Breakfast John miller

Speaker 2: does that. IMPERSONATION i almost peeded my. PANTS i was

Speaker 2: laughing so. Loud so don't ever underestimate how important THE

Speaker 2: pa guys are in baseball.

Speaker 1: History, McKinley i need your. Help this is my, daughter.

Speaker 1: McKinley she's almost. Three come, here. BEBY i need you

Speaker 1: to spin this wheel for.

Speaker 2: Me, Okays oh, boy, McKinley hope here we. Go put

Speaker 2: this down for a.

Speaker 1: Seconds she's been delivering me pizza slices as we.

Speaker 2: Record ah Thear, okay all, right, McKinley this is the.

Speaker 1: Wheel Of Kirchin, okay can you spin the ready? One, two?

Speaker 1: Three what did we? Get july? Fourth good job?

Speaker 2: Kidding oh, my that is, great. McKinley and we're coming

Speaker 2: up On july the, fourth And, jeff you can't talk

Speaker 2: About july the fourth unless you talk about the famous

Speaker 2: game where The braves and The mets played On july the,

Speaker 2: fourth When Rick camp hit the home run and the

Speaker 2: game ended at four o'clock in the, morning and they

Speaker 2: shot off the fireworks at four o'clock the, morning And

Speaker 2: Ron darling got the final out of that. Game the

Speaker 2: only reason we're bringing this, Up jet is if you

Speaker 2: haven't listened To Ron darling on the podcast last. Year

Speaker 2: the entire podcast was about That, july Famous july fourth

Speaker 2: Game mets And. Braves so that's Where i'm gonna leave.

Speaker 2: It there's no story THAT i could tell that can

Speaker 2: top anything that That Ron darling said that, day because

Speaker 2: he summed it up. Perfectly he captured it. Perfectly it was.

Speaker 2: Amazing way to, go, McKinley Hope july the, Fourth so

Speaker 2: she did at.

Speaker 1: Job all, right we have time for one, More. DAD i,

Speaker 1: mean this is the most friends we've.

Speaker 2: Gone let's do.

Speaker 1: It here we Go wheel Of kirchin final spin head first.

Speaker 1: Slides what do you got for?

Speaker 2: That, okay, yeah this is a little bit. TECHNICAL i

Speaker 2: don't THINK i have any really great story, here BUT

Speaker 2: i just know That Ricky henderson slid head first like

Speaker 2: almost every single time he stole a, base and he

Speaker 2: stole more bases than anyone in. History Lou, brock of,

Speaker 2: course stole the second most bases of anyone in. History

Speaker 2: and he always went feet. First And Luke brock told,

Speaker 2: me he, SAID i used my feet as a, weapon

Speaker 2: Like i'm going in there hard with, spikes and my

Speaker 2: legs are, strong and they don't want to tag me

Speaker 2: If i'm coming in that. Hard so there are two

Speaker 2: ways to look at the head first. Slide DO i

Speaker 2: go with feet first or DO i go? Headfirst AND

Speaker 2: i always Thought Louke brock made a lot of, sense

Speaker 2: But Ricky henderson told, Me, hey the fastest way to

Speaker 2: get there is head. First And Roberto alomar used to

Speaker 2: tell you used to slide headfirst into first. Base almar

Speaker 2: is one of the greatest base Runners i've ever. Seen

Speaker 2: he could, fly but HE i wouldn't say, routinely BUT

Speaker 2: i saw him a lot of times slide headfirst into first.

Speaker 2: Base AND i, Said, robbie most people people will tell

Speaker 2: you it's not the fastest way to. Go and he, goes,

Speaker 2: well you're, right because most people don't know how to

Speaker 2: slide head. First but he, SAID i know how to

Speaker 2: slide head. FIRST i know how to use my momentum

Speaker 2: and just take it into the. Slide and he, said

Speaker 2: but other guys have to slow down in order to

Speaker 2: get their body. Ready you should never slide into first

Speaker 2: base head first unless you really know what you're. Doing

Speaker 2: does that make sense to, You, Jeff.

Speaker 1: Yeah AND i know this isn't a head first. Slide

Speaker 1: BUT i always love when THE nfl and college football

Speaker 1: season's on and you hear the broadcasters, say, well you

Speaker 1: could tell that kid played baseball growing up if they

Speaker 1: make a great slide giving themselves up, right or if

Speaker 1: they make a terrible, one you, think, yep they never

Speaker 1: stole second in a little league game in their life

Speaker 1: because they never slid.

Speaker 2: Right sliding is an, Art. Jeb people practice. Sliding Buck

Speaker 2: showalder always told us you have to be able to

Speaker 2: slide on both, legs meaning you have to know how

Speaker 2: to slide on your left leg on your right leg, hook,

Speaker 2: slide everything, else but headfirst is a very interesting. Dynamic

Speaker 2: i'm all for sliding, headfirst but if you don't know

Speaker 2: how to do, it you shouldn't go headfirst into first

Speaker 2: base because it's the only base that you're allowed to run.

Speaker 1: Through, so if you learned two things from the podcast,

Speaker 1: today sliding is an art form and traveling is a

Speaker 1: violation that and is this a great game or what?

Speaker 1: Right and we also learned that Pop up is ninety

Speaker 1: three years, old so that's. Great born in nineteen thirty. Three,

Speaker 1: dad you look. Great y'all look. Great thank, You Jeff,

Speaker 1: well thank you so much for, listening Rich donnelly on

Speaker 1: the podcast, tomorrow for, watching listening all the good. Stuff

Speaker 1: we really appreciate your support and as, always thank you

Speaker 1: for being a part of our. Family

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