Will Zalatoris On Bonds, Smoltz and 18-Handicaps
PGA Tour pro Will Zalatoris joins the show after answering one of Jeff's Instagram DMs! A huge baseball fan from the Bay Area, Will kicks things off with an incredible Tim Kurkjian story. Little did we know, these two had actually met before!
Of course, because it's Tim and Jeff, the conversation immediately goes off the rails with ridiculous golf hypotheticals involving 18-handicaps, The Masters, and massive galleries. You had to know we'd eventually put a PGA Tour pro through the same scenarios Tim and Jeff usually debate on their own.
Eventually, we make our way back to baseball. Will grew up watching Barry Bonds launch home runs into McCovey Cove and remembers those Giants teams fondly. But it was another San Francisco Giant who truly captured his heart as a young baseball fan.
Will also shares what it was like being part of the new Happy Gilmore movie, including some priceless behind-the-scenes stories about working with Adam Sandler. We think he could have a second career in Hollywood—if he weren't such a darn good golfer.
What would Will ask Barry Bonds? Who has he always wanted to play a round with? And how did he become such good friends with Tony Romo? Those questions—and plenty more—are answered in this episode.
A huge thank you to Will for taking the time to join us. Hopefully these three get to hit the links together someday! Be sure to follow or subscribe, and share the show with a golf- or baseball-loving friend. Thanks, as always, for being part of our family!
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Speaker 1: And welcome back to is this a great game or
Speaker 1: what with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm his son,
Speaker 1: Jeff Kirchen and our guest today, PGA Tour golfer Will Zalatorus.
Speaker 1: I slid into his DM's dad that means direct messages
Speaker 1: and that's how we got him on the podcast. I
Speaker 1: finally booked a guest for the show. Will welcome my friend.
Speaker 2: Always, brother always. This was I know, it's funny having
Speaker 2: a golfer on a baseball podcast, but it's easy when
Speaker 2: I've been watching your dad literally since I was out
Speaker 2: of the womb, covering baseball, and my dad and I
Speaker 2: love baseball together. We've had a lot of great memories
Speaker 2: together at baseball games, especially at Oracle Park. Being from
Speaker 2: the Bay Area, so you two doing this together. It
Speaker 2: was I don't do a lot of podcasts, so when
Speaker 2: I got when you tech when you messaged me, I
Speaker 2: was kind of like, yeah, why not? That sounds like fun? Well, well,
Speaker 2: I just can't wait for all the golf podcasts now
Speaker 2: to be like, why can't we get him on? But
Speaker 2: he's on a baseball park.
Speaker 1: Well listen, Will, I mean, you've listened to the show
Speaker 1: before Dad, you can say sporting wise, percentages were like
Speaker 1: sixty percent baseball, twenty thirty percent golf, ten percent basketball.
Speaker 2: So it's like a large well and we're all golfers
Speaker 2: at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Right, That's true, just not as good as well. So
Speaker 1: when I messaged well, Dad, and you have no idea
Speaker 1: this is happening. So when I messaged well casually, you know,
Speaker 1: he likes a lot of our stuff on social I said,
Speaker 1: do you want to join?
Speaker 3: He said absolutely?
Speaker 1: And I have a story I want to share about
Speaker 1: your dad and an experience you had with my dad.
Speaker 1: Will I'm just gonna I'm gonna let you take it away.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was thirteen or fourteen years old. I
Speaker 2: was playing in an AGGA event somewhere over in Phoenix,
Speaker 2: same time as spring training is going on. Obviously massive
Speaker 2: baseball fan, you know, diehard Giants fan, and my dad
Speaker 2: and I were just sitting there. It was after the round,
Speaker 2: was long and hot day, and I looked over and
Speaker 2: you were sitting there with somebody else. I don't remember
Speaker 2: who it was, but I remember looking at my dad saying, Daw,
Speaker 2: that's Kim Kirkchen. And he's like Okay, that's nice, but like, well,
Speaker 2: just leave alone. And so what I do is I
Speaker 2: take my phone and I'm sitting over on the side
Speaker 2: of the table and I like try to take this
Speaker 2: photo of you because I was so excited. But as
Speaker 2: I do this, like trying to snipe this photo, I
Speaker 2: dropped the phone. I make a mess, like just my
Speaker 2: heart's sinking through my chest because you immediately look over
Speaker 2: it to me and you see this mess and you
Speaker 2: see this kid, and I'm just sitting here covering my
Speaker 2: face like this, like I hope you didn't see that.
Speaker 2: And I look over at you and You've got that
Speaker 2: same exact laugh going. And I just will never forget
Speaker 2: that to this day because I'm like, yeah, Tim Kirkton
Speaker 2: taught me cell phone etiquette around celebrities even though he
Speaker 2: doesn't know it.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so all these years later, I was literally
Speaker 2: like I want to say, I was thirteen or fourteen,
Speaker 2: but it was just a random pf chains and I'll
Speaker 2: never forget that. It was it was so funny.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well I'm sixty nine years old, not
Speaker 3: ninety three, by the way, and I'm dropping my cell
Speaker 3: phone all over the place anyway, I make a fool
Speaker 3: of myself in restaurants all the time. Still I'm a
Speaker 3: good athlete, will, but I am a clutch when it
Speaker 3: comes to just holding on to things and fine motor
Speaker 3: skills and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But I didn't want you to see it because I
Speaker 2: was so excited too. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you just start laughing at this putts on the you know,
Speaker 2: on the other side of the aisle, just making a
Speaker 2: mess trying to get a photo.
Speaker 1: You know, like, well, and now will you know you've
Speaker 1: experienced celebrity of your own and now you've got this
Speaker 1: sympathy for probably kids who are twelve thirteen going that's
Speaker 1: will salatary, and you know it's all good. I would
Speaker 1: see you a couple of years ago and people dropping
Speaker 1: their photo to take.
Speaker 2: Pictures of men. I tell all the kids that Tim
Speaker 2: Kirchten is definitely the guy you need to talk to about,
Speaker 2: you know, cell phone etiquette so.
Speaker 3: Well, Look, I love talking to kids. I have two myself,
Speaker 3: I have five grandchildren, and there is nothing that makes
Speaker 3: me happier when I can speak to a kid thirteen,
Speaker 3: fourteen eight. It doesn't matter if they love baseball, especially
Speaker 3: I'm in no matter what, I think, it's so good
Speaker 3: that kids at that age love baseball. And I will
Speaker 3: never ever miss an opportunity to talk to a kid.
Speaker 3: So the next time this happens, all right, instead of
Speaker 3: dropping your phone and your food, you should come over
Speaker 3: and talk to me, because that's what I really enjoy
Speaker 3: when it doesn't matter where I am.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, trust me, if you didn't like talking baseball,
Speaker 2: I think you probably would have would have needed to
Speaker 2: find a new profession. So it was, but it was
Speaker 2: so funny, and I just remember you laughing so hard
Speaker 2: at me making a mess, and I love it. It
Speaker 2: was so great. So a few years ago.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, we'll get to baseball in a minute here,
Speaker 3: But you are a PGA tour player and we just
Speaker 3: finished the US Open at Shinnecock. So just follow me
Speaker 3: on this ridiculous hypothetical question that I've asked way too
Speaker 3: many people. Okay, you take the eighteen to twenty handicap,
Speaker 3: who's playing bogie golf at his fifty eight hundred yard
Speaker 3: little municipal course. Okay, he's raking three footers, he is
Speaker 3: moving the ball in the rough, he's not taking more
Speaker 3: than a triple. He doesn't know any of the rules.
Speaker 3: We take that guy. And I'm not trying to hurt
Speaker 3: anybody's feelings here because I'm talking about my son here.
Speaker 3: He's like an eighteen twenty. Right.
Speaker 1: We know the rules.
Speaker 3: We don't follow all the rules.
Speaker 1: We know you're not supposed to see it up in
Speaker 1: the rough a little bit to give yourself a better.
Speaker 2: Lie, make golf fun, make thank you.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Yes, all right? So will we take
Speaker 3: that guy? So you know who that guy is, and
Speaker 3: we drop him onto the eighteenth at Shinnacock. And he's
Speaker 3: playing with Scotty. He's playing in the final threesome and
Speaker 3: he's the third guy with his game. He is playing
Speaker 3: eighteen holes at Shinnacock on Sunday on television and Scotty.
Speaker 4: Is sitting right next to him, is playing right rot
Speaker 4: to him, big crowd right television. And the only rule
Speaker 4: of the game is he has to play the round
Speaker 4: like he is a PGA Tour player.
Speaker 3: He's got to follow every rule he's got to put out.
Speaker 3: He has to play every rule. Now, I know what
Speaker 3: I think. That guy who's gonna be cheating a break
Speaker 3: to shoot ninety at his little MUNI, what is that
Speaker 3: guy gonna shoot at Shinnacock on the final day when
Speaker 3: he's playing on television and the greatest player in the
Speaker 3: game is playing right next to you. I have a number.
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated to see what your number is.
Speaker 2: So you have multiple things going on here. If you
Speaker 2: were to be the third ball in that group, you
Speaker 2: have Scotti Scheffler trying to win a Grand Slam. You
Speaker 2: have Wyndham Clark with a six shot lead. You have
Speaker 2: Long Island fans chirping you left and right, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to get under your skin. You have fifteen million
Speaker 2: people watching on TV. If you could just put the
Speaker 2: ball into he on the first hole, I think you
Speaker 2: should be pretty happy. But I think it's probably gonna
Speaker 2: be somewhere in the one fifty range. And the reason
Speaker 2: why I say that is because like number eleven, which
Speaker 2: leaked at Shinnecock Hills, Leecher, it's a par three one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards Leecher Vito coined it the easiest
Speaker 2: par five in the world because he basically just would
Speaker 2: always make a double there, so he or shortest par
Speaker 2: five in the world or whatever it is. The problem
Speaker 2: with that there is that if you miss it left
Speaker 2: of the green. I don't know an eighteen handicap that
Speaker 2: could chip it onto the green, right, So they're just
Speaker 2: gonna be playing like there's just gonna be some holes
Speaker 2: where it's like, look, maybe you make a par maybe
Speaker 2: a bogie, you know, a couple bogies, whatever, You hit
Speaker 2: a couple of nice shots. But the problem is that
Speaker 2: when you hit one offline and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you hit it into the crowd and it maybe hits somebody,
Speaker 2: that's a rattling effort. But then on top of that,
Speaker 2: you also have to hit through the crowd, which like
Speaker 2: that's another rattling effort. So now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're looking at sixteen seventeen on the hole. If you're
Speaker 2: gonna ask me, because they're gonna make a mess of
Speaker 2: what's around the greens. So like, in my opinion, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what ends up happening, but I gotta
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I would probably say that it's
Speaker 2: probably around one forty to one fifty, And I like,
Speaker 2: there's just gonna be a lot of double digits, right.
Speaker 3: I think you're being exceptionally kind here, will because my
Speaker 3: first guest was one eighty. Okay, one, somebody's he's gonna
Speaker 3: make a twenty on a hole. He's never putted greens
Speaker 3: like that, he's never hit out of the rough like that,
Speaker 3: he's never been in sand like that. So I started
Speaker 3: at one eighty with my guest. So I took it
Speaker 3: to Ed Farmer, former major league player, who was also
Speaker 3: a scratch golfer, and I said, and I gave him
Speaker 3: the same dynamics, all the elements that I gave you.
Speaker 3: I got a bet halfway through, Okay, this is the
Speaker 3: what's he gonna shoot? And Ed interrupted me and said,
Speaker 3: two hundred. He's gonna shoot two one hundred. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: I will you.
Speaker 1: You said they're gonna get it, actual they're gonna get
Speaker 1: it twenty on a hole for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because there's gonna be a time where all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you duff it off the t box and
Speaker 2: you're playing with your guys at home, and they just go,
Speaker 2: I hit another one. But then they have to play
Speaker 2: a five hundred and ninety yard par five out of
Speaker 2: two foot long hay, and they've got they had five
Speaker 2: ninety to start and they have five eighty five to go.
Speaker 2: So you're kind of not wrong.
Speaker 3: Right, that's a twenty twenty right there. He'll be too
Speaker 3: exhausted to even finish, and he will he will lose. Well,
Speaker 3: he'll have a caddy but not knowing the rules of
Speaker 3: the game, and there are so many obtuse rules in golf,
Speaker 3: and that's a good thing. He would have three rule violations,
Speaker 3: I'm sure in one round.
Speaker 2: Well, the semantics on top of that is you're only
Speaker 2: giving a certain amount of time to hit shots and
Speaker 2: do things. So the reality is that probably by the
Speaker 2: twelfth hole, they'll probably be like, why did she get
Speaker 2: in the cart? And we'll go have some dinner or
Speaker 2: something and have a little chat. You know, Well, that
Speaker 2: is true because actually I should go higher because when
Speaker 2: I played at Shinnecock Hills in twenty eighteen, I did
Speaker 2: play with the guy who did shoot over ninety in
Speaker 2: the first round.
Speaker 3: So you played with it to take that pro that
Speaker 3: shot over ninety? Is that right?
Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, he had a rist issue and he
Speaker 2: just wouldn't. I don't blame you. I mean, hey, he
Speaker 2: qualified for the US Open, you know, it was what
Speaker 2: it was. He made it. He had a really nice
Speaker 2: qualifier and then hitting out of shinnecock Hay with a
Speaker 2: bum wrist. Is it's not a good combo. But I
Speaker 2: will give him an a plus plus plus for the
Speaker 2: effort in the attitude, which is all that mattered. But yes,
Speaker 2: I'm sure turning in a score and it's always good
Speaker 2: when you shoot a number in the eighties on tour.
Speaker 2: And yes, I'll go ahead and be the guy that
Speaker 2: said that this didn't happened before. But they don't tell
Speaker 2: you the score when you're done, so like, hey, I
Speaker 2: shot eighty today, They just say plus eight Is that correct?
Speaker 2: And you're like thanks, didn't even get a number today,
Speaker 2: Like like that's how good it was. You're just like
Speaker 2: you don't can't even say the eight number. That's how
Speaker 2: you know? Let alone the nine.
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Speaker 3: Like that all right, and continuing the stupid hypotheticals. Will
Speaker 3: one more and then we'll stop, I promise so. On
Speaker 3: this podcast a couple months ago, during the Masters, I
Speaker 3: asked the question, could Jeffrey my Son, an eighteen to
Speaker 3: twenty handicapped? Could he dropped onto the eighteenth at the
Speaker 3: Masters playing, you know, with the two best players in
Speaker 3: the game. Could he win the Masters with a six
Speaker 3: shot lead going into eighteen? So we've dropped him in
Speaker 3: with his game he doesn't have. He's got his game
Speaker 3: playing the eighteenth at the Masters with a six shot lead,
Speaker 3: which means he has to make he has to make
Speaker 3: a nine because if he makes a ten, somebody's gonna
Speaker 3: birdy eighteen and then I think Jeffrey's going to lose
Speaker 3: in the playoff. So I think he's got to make
Speaker 3: a nine. Sure, I don't see anyway that my son,
Speaker 3: who I love and has a good little swing, but
Speaker 3: he just hasn't played much in his life. What are
Speaker 3: the chances of him keeping a six shot lead on
Speaker 3: the eighteenth at the Masters on the final day.
Speaker 2: So I would say he needs me as a caddy
Speaker 2: for one. But I will say if I will say
Speaker 2: this that if if you hit the first t shot
Speaker 2: and you have a six shot lead, and you snipe
Speaker 2: it into those trees left or right, I might as
Speaker 2: well just take off the white jumpsuit and just I'll
Speaker 2: see you in the clubhouse because it's literally like to
Speaker 2: hitting it down that hallway on eighteen like it's I
Speaker 2: would probably say, it's the width of like a like
Speaker 2: like four car garage witth like four cars wits up top.
Speaker 2: So like, look, it's it's a brutal t shot because
Speaker 2: you want to try to cut it, but if you
Speaker 2: overcut it, you just hit it straight into the magnolia trees.
Speaker 2: And then you're like, you see, that's where you get
Speaker 2: the pictures, you know, like Rory and Scottie and they're
Speaker 2: underneath the trees and they're trying to, you know, just
Speaker 2: kind of get one out of there. And like if
Speaker 2: if a tour pro and I got multiple Masters champions,
Speaker 2: are you know, rattling around in those trees. I'm sorry, Jeff,
Speaker 2: if I've got some very low expectations for you, even
Speaker 2: if you have a six shot lead and I'm on
Speaker 2: the bag, but yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it the first the caddy, the caddy would help.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: We put this on our Instagram, and the amount of
Speaker 1: comments we got of players probably a lot similar to
Speaker 1: me about an eighteen handicap. You play bogie golf, you
Speaker 1: break ninety, it's a good day for you kind of thing,
Speaker 1: saying oh, I'll just you know, I'll hit four seven
Speaker 1: irons and I'm like, you're not. You're not curing for seven.
Speaker 1: You're just no, you're not on your mooning.
Speaker 2: First off, take the eighteen handicap, and I want them
Speaker 2: to get forty of their best friends, and I want
Speaker 2: them to line up about ten fifteen feet wide, and
Speaker 2: I want them to go down about fifty yards, and
Speaker 2: I want them to try to hit that seven iron,
Speaker 2: and that hozzle is gonna look real big, real fats.
Speaker 2: There's I would not be standing to the right. That
Speaker 2: is all I'm gonna say, because if you take some
Speaker 2: if you take an eighteen handicap cold with a six
Speaker 2: shot lead and put him on the eighteenth tee, I
Speaker 2: don't even think I could remember, you know, like I
Speaker 2: just it's like nothing like.
Speaker 3: So well, we asked my friend Steve Rushan, the funniest
Speaker 3: man I've ever met, at one of the greatest writers ever,
Speaker 3: he said. Answering this question, he said, I thought you
Speaker 3: were going to ask, if we dropped you on the
Speaker 3: green with a six shot lead, could you hold it?
Speaker 3: Because no one has ever put in those before. And
Speaker 3: when you're trying to win the Masters, and Scottie's standing
Speaker 3: there in eighteen twenty is gonna have trouble taking it back?
Speaker 3: Is he not? Will?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 2: Well, and think about the stories of Tiger Woods. In
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, practicing his putting on the Stanford gym
Speaker 2: floor to get ready for Augusta. Like they're they're seriously like,
Speaker 2: there's they're the greens are perfect there. I mean there,
Speaker 2: there's literally not a tough of grass that is out
Speaker 2: of place. It's astro turf. But it's real. It's just
Speaker 2: it's so freaking pure. That being said, they are so
Speaker 2: fast and so hilly that it's like if you were
Speaker 2: to give you know, if he even put me on
Speaker 2: the back right corner of eighteen grain to the front
Speaker 2: left Sunday pin, like just hold hitting a putt. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not the greatest putter on earth historically, but I
Speaker 2: mean it is just like if I hit it within
Speaker 2: fifteen feet, I might be happy. Like, so, you know,
Speaker 2: are we now laying up with putts? You know what's
Speaker 2: our strategy here? You know, let's get this on the
Speaker 2: right tier. Let you know, I'm not bringing up Scottie,
Speaker 2: you know, like four or five put in the last
Speaker 2: hole or whatever and still winning. Like we're just gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about Okay, nice to commit it here, pal,
Speaker 2: Oh okay, we got ten feet coming back? All right,
Speaker 2: we got this, We got this, you know, come in
Speaker 2: for a mount midway through and give them a nice
Speaker 2: little pat and you got this right.
Speaker 3: And will again. We're not here to pound on an
Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty handicap. We are here to acknowledge how
Speaker 3: difficult it is to play the best golf courses in America,
Speaker 3: and when it can take the greatest players of all
Speaker 3: time and and they just are helpless on certain shots
Speaker 3: on certain courses because the game is so freaking hard
Speaker 3: to play. That's all we're trying to get at here.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And that's why, Like I would love
Speaker 2: to take in eighteen handicap around Shinnacock Hills and just
Speaker 2: see how far they make it before they quit. It's
Speaker 2: not an it, it's just a when like us open
Speaker 2: conditions all the way back, you know.
Speaker 3: So I asked Aaron Boone the same Shinnacock question, and
Speaker 3: he yelled at me and he said, Tim, it's the
Speaker 3: stupidest question ever. The guy would give up after twelve holes.
Speaker 3: He would stop playing. He would be exhausted, he would
Speaker 3: be embarrassed, he would be done, he would quit. He
Speaker 3: could never finish eighteen holes, That was Boo.
Speaker 2: You would walk up, you would walk up nine fair
Speaker 2: away and you would get to nine green and you
Speaker 2: have to pass nine green to go to ten to
Speaker 2: go to the clubhouse, and you just would not see
Speaker 2: number ten. You would be in the clubhouse having one
Speaker 2: of the greatest meals and all of golf in the
Speaker 2: Shinnecock Clubhouse, and you would say you'd see the guys
Speaker 2: coming in with their hair all disheveled when they got done,
Speaker 2: and you'd say, how was it because my afternoon was
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot better than yours.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we do on the show, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I think it's worth noting too. Two hardest sports to play,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, right are golf and baseball. You hear
Speaker 1: any baseball players say the hardest thing to do is
Speaker 1: hit a baseball in the major leagues, right, But here's
Speaker 1: the problem. I play golf. I don't face you know,
Speaker 1: the mizz on a major league diamond. I've never faced
Speaker 1: an one hundred and three mile per hour fastball. But
Speaker 1: I have played a hard course from the back teas
Speaker 1: because my friends were being idiots and thought we could play.
Speaker 3: The back teams.
Speaker 1: So I have an understanding of just how good because
Speaker 1: I played with a scratch golfer. Accidentally, when I signed
Speaker 1: up playing at a course and he just was our
Speaker 1: fourth and we didn't realize it. Yeah, and he literally
Speaker 1: hit every fairway in every green and part pretty much
Speaker 1: every hole. So and tour players are better than scratch players.
Speaker 3: I mean, just reason why you're tour players, so I.
Speaker 1: Can recognize how good you have to be to play
Speaker 1: on the tour. But it's so hard to understand how
Speaker 1: to hit a fastball because the last time I played,
Speaker 1: Nick Pack was throwing seventy miles per hour at age thirteen, right, well,
Speaker 1: and I was four foot three, So like it's I
Speaker 1: don't understand.
Speaker 3: It's hard with the two sports.
Speaker 1: But at least there's a little bit of grace we
Speaker 1: can understand golf from. But still, what you guys do
Speaker 1: is just absolutely insane to think about how good you are.
Speaker 2: Well, I got the ultimate respect for hitters too, because
Speaker 2: I mean hitters and pitchers. I growing up like, if
Speaker 2: you asked me what I wanted to be, I would
Speaker 2: have either set a golfer or a San Francisco Giant,
Speaker 2: not a baseball player, just a San Francisco Giant. But
Speaker 2: I like I loved pitching. I was a terrible hitter
Speaker 2: because the only thing I could hit was low and away. Well,
Speaker 2: where's a golf ball? I wonder why I was, you know,
Speaker 2: a pretty no wonder why I hated hitting, But you
Speaker 2: know you kind of like I've talked like, Gavin Sheets
Speaker 2: and I went to college together, left fielder for the Padres,
Speaker 2: a close buddy of mine, great friend, And there were
Speaker 2: times when we were in college that we would actually
Speaker 2: work out with the baseball team or at the baseball
Speaker 2: team's facility because the football team at the time, you know,
Speaker 2: wakes a small school, but we didn't have the full
Speaker 2: football gym yet, you know, ten years ago. Now it's
Speaker 2: they've got everything they can possibly need and then more.
Speaker 2: But whenever the football team needed the whole team and
Speaker 2: we had to go to the baseball field to go
Speaker 2: work out, and our trainer on those days would all
Speaker 2: of a sudden throw on like a three minute versa
Speaker 2: climber that we would like never do ever. But it
Speaker 2: was just the factory with the baseball players. He didn't
Speaker 2: want a bunch of golfers looking, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: soft and around the baseball guys. But the thing that
Speaker 2: I will never forget is watching Gavin hit BP indoors
Speaker 2: and seeing like a ninety mile an hour fastball, and
Speaker 2: I just like sit up there and like stood next
Speaker 2: to it, and I was just like, Nope, don't have that.
Speaker 2: Can't hit that. And like ball needs to be on
Speaker 2: the ground, it needs to be you know, not moving that.
Speaker 2: I can't hit that. Now we're talking about three thousand
Speaker 2: RPMs of rotation on a curve ball whatever. Definitely can't
Speaker 2: hit that. So it's it's fun. And the other part
Speaker 2: i'd say too, it's like, you know, like you've mentioned
Speaker 2: a lot of baseball players are really good golfers. Baseball
Speaker 2: players hit it a mile typically doesn't matter if they're
Speaker 2: pitching or hitting. They just hit it a freaking mile
Speaker 2: because they're so rotational. And then the thing I would
Speaker 2: say is because hockey players are so good with their hands.
Speaker 2: They're always good chippers and putters, and so it's kind
Speaker 2: of the fun dynamic. And especially at some of the
Speaker 2: places I play at in Dallas, like you know, Dallas National,
Speaker 2: We've got some hockey guys over here. Some of the
Speaker 2: baseball guys around town play a little bit, and it's
Speaker 2: like all the baseball guys carry it like three fifteen
Speaker 2: to three twenty five. They just you know, sometimes don't
Speaker 2: know where it's going. And then the other part of that, though,
Speaker 2: is that it's like the hockey guys like Joe Pavelski
Speaker 2: is a great friend of mine, and he's literally got
Speaker 2: one of the greatest short games I've ever seen for
Speaker 2: a professional athlete, strictly because he's so good with his hands,
Speaker 2: and he was so good with practicing, you know, stick stuff.
Speaker 2: And he told me the story about how like when
Speaker 2: he broke his foot, he kicked his foot up and
Speaker 2: he took a tennis ball with they with his hockey stick,
Speaker 2: and he started bouncing it up against the wall one
Speaker 2: way and then started going the other way, and then
Speaker 2: he started going both ways with it. And then next
Speaker 2: thing you know, he comes out to practice. And he
Speaker 2: was always known as a phenomenal tipper, you know, like
Speaker 2: tipping pucks. You know, guy would slapshot it and then
Speaker 2: he would redirect the puck and it would go in.
Speaker 2: And he said it was like a superpower for him
Speaker 2: of where he got it. But the differences with that
Speaker 2: is those guys are so good with their hands, and
Speaker 2: like PAVs would take six weeks off for a game
Speaker 2: and then he'd hit like a forty yard bunker shot
Speaker 2: to five feet and I'm like, you just can't teach that,
Speaker 2: Like that's that's just not a This is why you
Speaker 2: you are who you are. This is why you played
Speaker 2: twenty years in the NHL, and you know you're a freak.
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Speaker 2: But my favorite part I would say about all the
Speaker 2: baseball players playing golf was I grew up at California
Speaker 2: Golf Club in the Bay Area, and whenever I was
Speaker 2: really young, we had Maddox, Lavin and Smoltz playing on
Speaker 2: an off day and that was about as good as
Speaker 2: that was as good as it ever got. I mean,
Speaker 2: the worst score in the group would be like seventy six,
Speaker 2: like they were so good, Like worst handicaps like a
Speaker 2: one or at two, like, oh, I played like hell today,
Speaker 2: I made three birdies and you're just like your mid season,
Speaker 2: like you've pitched twenty times this year and you're complaining
Speaker 2: about making three birdies and you haven't played in two
Speaker 2: weeks like so. So those guys, we were really fun
Speaker 2: to come around and at Cal whenever they were you know,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of basall players, a lot of
Speaker 2: athletes the Cal club now, which is a lot of
Speaker 2: fun for me, and it's not so much to you know,
Speaker 2: you know, jocksniff per se, but also to just talk
Speaker 2: about you know what they're doing. You know, how they
Speaker 2: go about their business, you know, like Gavin when he
Speaker 2: came in to play the Rangers and the random you know,
Speaker 2: the one time every so often that they're able to
Speaker 2: come down here. And you know, Gavin and I were
Speaker 2: talking about each other's processes, and you know, Manny Machado's
Speaker 2: process and that's fun, Like that's really really cool because
Speaker 2: there's so many different ways to do it. But long
Speaker 2: story short, baseball guys they all hit it a freaking mile.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know a single baseball player who doesn't
Speaker 2: who hits it short. And if they do, that probably
Speaker 2: would be something to it would be like, you know,
Speaker 2: some guy who's hitting batting three fifteen and he's got
Speaker 2: two home runs at the end of the season. That's
Speaker 2: the only guy I can possibly see hitting it short,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: But will I covered Gavin Sheets's dad, Larry Sheets, Warriors
Speaker 3: in the eighties. That's how far I go back. But
Speaker 3: I recently saw Gavin and he was telling me about
Speaker 3: his golf game and I just jokingly said, I didn't joke,
Speaker 3: but I said, so, what are you would too? And
Speaker 3: he looks at me and he goes, no, I'm a scratch,
Speaker 3: and then he went out and played some ridiculous course
Speaker 3: in Baltimore on and off day and shot seventy three.
Speaker 3: So again I understand, I understand Will that distance is
Speaker 3: not what we're here for. Putting the ball in the
Speaker 3: hole is the most important thing. But can can Gavin
Speaker 3: Sheets hit it farther than you can hit it?
Speaker 2: If Gavin, if I got him the proper mechanic and
Speaker 2: I know that that's a very he was probably rolling
Speaker 2: his eyes at the words proper mechanics, as I said,
Speaker 2: but I would probably say, like if I got him
Speaker 2: to try to, like really do the golf move, like
Speaker 2: kind of get rid of a little bit of the
Speaker 2: bait folly, he probably hits it about ten yards farther
Speaker 2: than me. But the difference is is that I can
Speaker 2: hit it on a string. And like I took him
Speaker 2: out to Merito on his off day and he played awesome.
Speaker 2: I think he was in the mid seventies out there,
Speaker 2: which Merito as if any Texas ranger Dallas guy can
Speaker 2: attest like it's basically a Southern version of Shinnecock Hills,
Speaker 2: like it is just if you're hit two good golf
Speaker 2: shots as a PGA Tour Pro and you're gonna walk
Speaker 2: off with Bogey sometimes and like that's that's a fun
Speaker 2: thing for us. But like Gavin just midyear, like he
Speaker 2: absolutely could hit it, probably ten yards by me. But
Speaker 2: the different, like, the difference definitely is just the iron
Speaker 2: play good. He's a plus one. He's a plus one.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's He's also sixty pounds heavier than you.
Speaker 2: Correct, Stacy try like freaking ninety. Yeah, I'm not getting
Speaker 2: in a fight with him. I know better. He's on
Speaker 2: my side. Like, look, I'm a Giants fan. He's on
Speaker 2: the Padres, but I didn't wear any Giants when I
Speaker 2: went to go see him. I'm team Gavin, and I
Speaker 2: do not want Gavin on the other team. But he
Speaker 2: it was pretty good. He walked out, he had had
Speaker 2: us come out on the field, and he walked out
Speaker 2: with the San Diego Padres T shirt and on the
Speaker 2: inside of it it had a little emblement said Happy's
Speaker 2: Caddy on it. And Max Max Holma and I are
Speaker 2: obviously massive baseball fans, Max being a massive Dodgers fan,
Speaker 2: me being a Giants fan. There's obviously a lot of
Speaker 2: smack talk that goes on on tour. You know the
Speaker 2: other part that I would say is that I sent him.
Speaker 2: I sent Max a photo of the San Diego Padres
Speaker 2: T shirt, and I he was already giving me smack
Speaker 2: because he was like, are you just going ahead and
Speaker 2: just like fangirling every team in the MLB, like who's
Speaker 2: it going to be next year? Like how could you
Speaker 2: have a Padres T shirt? Being a Giants fan? Just
Speaker 2: ripping me to pieces. And so I finally was just like,
Speaker 2: can we just meet in the middle and start a
Speaker 2: bonfire with his T shirt or something like? Like you know,
Speaker 2: but we we always we love chirping each other, Like
Speaker 2: that's the thing is that a lot of us love baseball,
Speaker 2: and you know, Max and I especially, we were chirping
Speaker 2: left and right. Like I've already told him. I'm like, look,
Speaker 2: don't confuse my love for the Giants and the hatred
Speaker 2: for your team, Like those are two very separate things.
Speaker 2: But I'm very good at both, you know, so well.
Speaker 1: We always Yeah, you mentioned you mentioned Happy's Caddy. I
Speaker 1: was pleasantly surprised to see you in Happy Gilmore too.
Speaker 1: My dad has shared the story in which he played
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler in basketball, which would it's a story for
Speaker 1: another podcast because it's hilarious and hysterical and to this
Speaker 1: day it's one of my dad's favorite stories.
Speaker 3: But you played you were.
Speaker 1: Acting in this movie and you played the grown up
Speaker 1: version of the caddy that Happy choked out in Happy,
Speaker 1: the first Happy Gilmour movie.
Speaker 3: And who approached.
Speaker 1: You about this role?
Speaker 3: Were you nervous about acting?
Speaker 1: Because I know as a professional athlete that we hear
Speaker 1: this all the time from our guests if they're out
Speaker 1: of their comfort zone. Sometimes they're like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to do it, but it's not where I start.
Speaker 1: This is not what I'm doing. Was it an automatic guest?
Speaker 1: Did you have to think about it? How did this
Speaker 1: come about?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: So, the thing that was really funny about it. So
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, I won this college showcase that got
Speaker 2: me into the LA Open. It was my first PGA
Speaker 2: tour start, first PGA tour start. I was a freshman
Speaker 2: in college. I hadn't gotten a haircut in like six months,
Speaker 2: because you know, freshman in college are going to be freshmen.
Speaker 2: And I had really long, flowing, you know, blonde hair,
Speaker 2: and a couple guys or a golf channel posted it
Speaker 2: and a couple of people were like, man, this guy
Speaker 2: looks like Gilmore's caddie, and that was the first time
Speaker 2: I'd ever heard of it. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you fast forward six years later and I almost win
Speaker 2: the mask or is losing by one to Hideki, and
Speaker 2: Adam is tweeting me, you know, like go make Happy
Speaker 2: proud and you know, all this stuff, and I couldn't.
Speaker 2: It was crazy because I it. The other part that
Speaker 2: I would say that was really crazy about that time
Speaker 2: for me is because after Hideki won, he went back
Speaker 2: to Japan as any you know, anybody should in his situation,
Speaker 2: as he should to go celebrate, you know, with his nation,
Speaker 2: and which left kind of a media void here, and
Speaker 2: so I got some serious requests to go on like
Speaker 2: the Today Show and blah blah blah, and they're asked,
Speaker 2: you know, being asked all these questions of like, man,
Speaker 2: you know happy Gilmore, you know Happy Gilmore two? Do
Speaker 2: you think you want to play it? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never even taken a drama class before.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what to do. Ah, And so
Speaker 2: they basically the part that was great about it was
Speaker 2: the week before I got the call that they wanted
Speaker 2: me to play Happy Gilmore too. I had cut my
Speaker 2: hair because it was really long, and they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: do you still have the long hair? And I'm like
Speaker 2: I don't. But they're like that's fine, Like you're you're
Speaker 2: gonna be more like you're a grown up anyways, Like
Speaker 2: this is thirty years later. So I'm like, okay, So
Speaker 2: wait a minute. The kid who is he's a Now
Speaker 2: he's now a sixty year old like biology professor in
Speaker 2: upstate New York. Because obviously I people have told me
Speaker 2: he was. I believe he was like twenty at the
Speaker 2: time that the movie came out, and so now he's,
Speaker 2: you know, mid fifties. But the part that I laugh
Speaker 2: at is that I have to play him the movie
Speaker 2: came out thirty years ago and I'm twenty nine, but
Speaker 2: I have to play him grown up. So there was
Speaker 2: a little part of me where I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, like I'll try to figure this out.
Speaker 2: But the Kyle Knuitchek was our director, and he was
Speaker 2: Carl the rug dealer in Workaholics, and me being a
Speaker 2: degenerate high schooler at one point that really can that
Speaker 2: really attributed to my juvenile delinquency. So having Kyle and
Speaker 2: having Adam as basically the two guys that were explaining
Speaker 2: to me, like like, look, you are going to be
Speaker 2: the only pro that is going to dislike Adam, Like
Speaker 2: you are going to anything he says, you need to
Speaker 2: dislike it, like pretend that anything every word that comes
Speaker 2: out of this guy's mouth you just absolutely can't stand it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, that's pretty easy. I think
Speaker 2: I could do that. I know some people like that,
Speaker 2: so but so as you can kind of tell with
Speaker 2: my personality it was it was a lot of fun
Speaker 2: to kind of riff. And I will say, Adam Sandler
Speaker 2: ad libbing in front of you, like the locker room
Speaker 2: scene that I have, he came up with about seven
Speaker 2: or eight different lines just right off the bat. And
Speaker 2: I'm not an actor, I'm not a comedian, I'm none
Speaker 2: of that stuff. But standing across Adam Sandler and trying
Speaker 2: not to laugh at him ad libbing stuff while he's
Speaker 2: looking at me was probably the toughest thing I've had
Speaker 2: to do in my life because some of it was
Speaker 2: so funny, and he would do these things where like
Speaker 2: he's trying to get me in a mad state, like
Speaker 2: as right before we're about to go on, and he
Speaker 2: would just be like, ah, Blondie, your whole family hates you.
Speaker 2: Nobody likes he's a single person. They'd rather get ready.
Speaker 2: And I'm like sitting there trying not to laugh, and
Speaker 2: we're about you. You're like and actually, and I'm like
Speaker 2: this the whole time, like trying not to laugh, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, so it was. It was great. I Mean,
Speaker 2: the only other funny one was when I look around
Speaker 2: the corner in the locker room. I was like, in
Speaker 2: this like half locker, my face was buried in it,
Speaker 2: and he's supposed to come over and say hi and
Speaker 2: or come up to me like he recognized me or whatever.
Speaker 2: And there was like some extras on the set or
Speaker 2: whatever that I could only see and they were all
Speaker 2: on their phone. So I just thought it was like
Speaker 2: some sort of rehearsal or I'm not an actor. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell I'm doing. And so there
Speaker 2: had been a couple of times where some of us
Speaker 2: as jokes like throughout the movie as we're filming, where
Speaker 2: like we would randomly just give the other guy the
Speaker 2: bird just out of nowhere, just to keep it loose
Speaker 2: and keep it fun. And so the best part I
Speaker 2: got it was that I thought I was going to
Speaker 2: give the double barrel shotgun to Colin Morikawa, but right
Speaker 2: when I turned outside of my locker, there's Adam Sandler
Speaker 2: like five feet from me, and I'm just giving him
Speaker 2: the double bird right to his face. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, shoot, this was the fun six days.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going home now. But so we had
Speaker 2: like we had so much fun. It was. It was
Speaker 2: so cool. I mean, there's the scene with the snake.
Speaker 2: They had me running it like six times because I
Speaker 2: knew that I went to per Se the night before
Speaker 2: and had to blow out dinner. So they were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have you run like sixty yard sprints. It
Speaker 2: might take us like six or seven tries to get
Speaker 2: it right. And I'm just sitting there, like I just
Speaker 2: had a four hour, fifteen course French meal that got
Speaker 2: set up by Adam. I don't want to run, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to run even a little bit. Like
Speaker 2: I said, it's just some of the stuff off script,
Speaker 2: And it was a blast. It was so much fun.
Speaker 3: Let's get back to baseball for a minute. Will you
Speaker 3: grew up a Giants fan and you were born in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, so you were like four years old
Speaker 3: when Barry Bonds had seventy three home runs? Who was
Speaker 3: your guy? Growing up on the Giants? When you would
Speaker 3: watch them, you would say, I want to be that guy.
Speaker 2: I mean watching Barry hit home runs was amazing. Watching
Speaker 2: Mike Schmidt pitch, I actually would say JT Snow. And
Speaker 2: the reason why I say that is because he had
Speaker 2: the locker in the back of my ads at cal
Speaker 2: And when I was a kid. I you know, like
Speaker 2: any kid, you get start ripping packs of cards open,
Speaker 2: and I had like every Giants roster for like eight
Speaker 2: years that I you know, of all the cards every
Speaker 2: single year, every relief pitcher, you can possibly think of,
Speaker 2: Russ Orties, you know, all those guys like Levon Hernandez,
Speaker 2: like it was a blast. But I just remember my
Speaker 2: dad stuck that card in his locker and he signed
Speaker 2: it and I was like four or five, and I
Speaker 2: was just I've been a massive JT fan ever since,
Speaker 2: so I would say, like, growing up, that's who I
Speaker 2: wanted to be. But I mean, I watching Barry hit
Speaker 2: home runs and being in the Bay Area and going
Speaker 2: to Oracle Park as a kid was so so fun.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell one quick story about OH two. So
Speaker 2: I was that the I think it was Game seven, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it was the whatever the final game was of
Speaker 2: the series when the Giants beat the Cardinals. But I
Speaker 2: was just through the math that was basically six and
Speaker 2: we get to the eighth inning. It's a tight ball
Speaker 2: game and all of a sudden, I have a meltdown.
Speaker 2: I want to go home. I'm tired. I throw a
Speaker 2: little hasy fit as a six year old, and my
Speaker 2: dad is like, just shut up, and you know, we
Speaker 2: got two innings left to watch the Giants possibly go
Speaker 2: to the World Series. This is what you wanted to
Speaker 2: watch your whole life. And I'm like, I want to
Speaker 2: call mom. I want to go home. So we're you know,
Speaker 2: Kenny Lofton, you know all that stuff at the end,
Speaker 2: and we're just on a bark train going home. And
Speaker 2: my dad has never let me live that down. And
Speaker 2: and so like in O two when they lost, I
Speaker 2: cried like a baby. And then the other part of
Speaker 2: it that was cool was when they won in twenty ten.
Speaker 2: I was eight rows behind home plate when Brian Wilson
Speaker 2: threw the last pitch, so it was I was like
Speaker 2: the only guy, Like the place went silent. But then
Speaker 2: I would say, like it even went more silent after
Speaker 2: like everybody realized what was going on. Like it sounded
Speaker 2: like it felt like the national anthem, but it was
Speaker 2: just it was so crazy. But those I mean those ten, twelve,
Speaker 2: fourteen years were so good. But I know it's a
Speaker 2: long winded answer to go back on JT Snow, But
Speaker 2: JT's getting that signed card from him when I was
Speaker 2: like four or five, him being a Cal Club member
Speaker 2: and a good dude. I mean, that's just a that
Speaker 2: was a layup for me.
Speaker 3: So did you ever meet JT Snow? Did you meet
Speaker 3: Barry Bonds?
Speaker 2: I've never met Barry. I've seen JT out at CAL
Speaker 2: a few times. He's still a member out there. There's
Speaker 2: a bunch of athletes that are out at CAL and
Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of fun. Cal Club made me
Speaker 2: an honorary member last year and being able to hang
Speaker 2: out with all those, you know, athletes that are in
Speaker 2: the bar area just because golf is obviously booming in general,
Speaker 2: but you know a lot of athletes just love playing it.
Speaker 2: You know, in their offseason, so you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's really fun for me to go out there and
Speaker 2: be with those guys, you know. I would say that
Speaker 2: the biggest thing that I've definitely learned from them is
Speaker 2: the fact that when you play one hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: two games in a season, you've got to be on
Speaker 2: every single day. You have to know what you're doing
Speaker 2: every single day because you're working for an organization. And
Speaker 2: I really admire that because for us, it's very easy
Speaker 2: to you know, you play twenty seven times in a
Speaker 2: season and maybe you have a couple off weeks and
Speaker 2: some guys maybe don't tough it out, while the reality
Speaker 2: is is that these guys are shown off to bat
Speaker 2: and they don't you know, they're they have to be
Speaker 2: on or they're spot's going to be taken. And I
Speaker 2: really relate with that, and I would say, especially those
Speaker 2: guys who play those one hundred and fifty plus games
Speaker 2: a season, can you know, like cal Ripken did, is
Speaker 2: just a crazy I never, Yeah, I know, I mean
Speaker 2: it's but it's just like we don't have that in golf,
Speaker 2: Like we don't have we do have some guys where
Speaker 2: they'll play insane numbers of tournaments, but like to be
Speaker 2: that good and play that much like it's very rare,
Speaker 2: Like Rory kind of cuts back on his schedule, Scotty
Speaker 2: cuts back on his schedule. Like they want the quality
Speaker 2: versus the amount of reps. And I just I the
Speaker 2: guys who just were able to show up Dan day out,
Speaker 2: Like I just respect the hell out of that.
Speaker 3: If you were to meet Barry Bonds, would would you
Speaker 3: be intimidated? Would you be scared to death? What would
Speaker 3: you say to him if you got a chance to
Speaker 3: meet him?
Speaker 2: How many shots do you want on the front? That's
Speaker 2: incredible and he would probably, knowing from from what I've heard,
Speaker 2: I know it, he would probably get it right back
Speaker 2: to me and more. And that's exactly how I'd want it.
Speaker 2: That's he's a hero. I mean, he's watching him hit
Speaker 2: that many home runs and be that good and that
Speaker 2: dominant was so fun of the barrier, like it was
Speaker 2: it was just popping in the bar area for base
Speaker 2: junior base or you know, little league baseball at the time.
Speaker 2: You know, like it was just so much fun, you know,
Speaker 2: going to the games and watching him hit home runs
Speaker 2: so far over you know, into McCovey cove And you know,
Speaker 2: I'd say the only other home run that I've ever
Speaker 2: seen that was more ridiculous than any of Barry's home
Speaker 2: runs was Albert Poolhole's Game two World Series twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: He hit the third deck in like the sixth inning
Speaker 2: and it was like six feet right of the foul pole.
Speaker 2: So I mean he had got it. But I mean
Speaker 2: this thing. I remember, like people the second the crack
Speaker 2: of the bat when they're like, oh, that's gone, and
Speaker 2: then it hit the third deck like right off the
Speaker 2: sign and they were like like you could hear the
Speaker 2: collective air being sucked out of the building based off
Speaker 2: of where it went. And yeah, some of Barry's home
Speaker 2: runs were insane. There were a lot of fun to
Speaker 2: be rooting for him back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just switching sports one more time here, will you?
Speaker 3: You are good friends with Tony Romo. Tony Romo was
Speaker 3: a great quarterback, he's a great podcaster, he's a great golfer.
Speaker 3: Where did that relationship begin? And what is it like
Speaker 3: playing golf now with Tony Romo?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he has been I'll preface it with that
Speaker 2: Tony stopped maturing at sixteen, and I my friends are
Speaker 2: all kind of that way, and we you know, like
Speaker 2: Tony really I was. I grew up in playing golf
Speaker 2: at Ventry Country Club in Dallas. He had joined because
Speaker 2: he lives kind of nearby, and he invited me to
Speaker 2: come play with them. Played my ass off, played so
Speaker 2: good and we started playing a lot of golf together
Speaker 2: after that, and through COVID was really where we played
Speaker 2: a lot of golf together and in Texas our COVID policies.
Speaker 2: Let's say we're extremely pro golf. You know, that's probably
Speaker 2: the best way I could phrase it. We weren't really
Speaker 2: able to go. We weren't really able to go hit balls.
Speaker 2: We couldn't share carts, you know, for a while, we
Speaker 2: couldn't have carts. But like every single day for three months,
Speaker 2: it was like Romo maybe another PGA tour pro and
Speaker 2: like another guy, and it was just like it was
Speaker 2: a bloodbath, like it was. It got me ready to
Speaker 2: compete when we got back. And you know, I was
Speaker 2: playing for money quite frankly at the time that I
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been playing for but it made me very
Speaker 2: made me more comfortable when I got out on tour.
Speaker 2: And I would say that you know, like when I
Speaker 2: got out of COVID and I got onto corn Ferry. Uh,
Speaker 2: I had like some insane stretch where I had like
Speaker 2: nine top tens on corn Ferry and like eleven events
Speaker 2: or something, and I had won once. And within seven
Speaker 2: months of us basically being released from COVID, I had
Speaker 2: gone from being out of a mid level corn fairy
Speaker 2: guy to having a sixth in the US Open because
Speaker 2: the US Open had gotten pushed because of COVID to
Speaker 2: the fall at Wingfoot, and I would not have tried
Speaker 2: to qualify because at the time, if you were on
Speaker 2: corn Faery tour and you were playing in the US Open,
Speaker 2: you could finish ninth and it almost meant nothing. You know, now,
Speaker 2: I believe there it does help with your corn fairy
Speaker 2: status to get you on tour, as it should because
Speaker 2: he played well on a major. But I kept top
Speaker 2: tending my way into eventually having special temporary status on tour,
Speaker 2: which then eventually I got to top fifty in the world,
Speaker 2: which then literally within a year of playing almost daily
Speaker 2: with him for three months, I had finished second in
Speaker 2: the Masters and was already top thirty in the world.
Speaker 2: So the reality was that he made me a lot
Speaker 2: tougher through these games. And it wasn't so much about
Speaker 2: the money as much as it was him kind of
Speaker 2: challenging me and seeing how I would respond. And I
Speaker 2: loved that. And there were times where maybe I would,
Speaker 2: you know, lay down and fold, and he would maybe
Speaker 2: kind of go like, hey, like you should have taken
Speaker 2: that hammer. You should have fun, you know, believe in
Speaker 2: yourself a little bit more. And so like he loves learning,
Speaker 2: he loves the golf game, he loves studying the game.
Speaker 2: He wants to try to be you know, wants his
Speaker 2: golf swing to be as much like Ben Hogan as possible.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got all the books on golf swing.
Speaker 2: And so it's fun because I would say through those times,
Speaker 2: if I didn't have the answers he would, it would
Speaker 2: kind of bother me. Like he would ask me questions
Speaker 2: about a golf about his golf swing, and I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I feel like I should, and
Speaker 2: he just was. It was a really fun time to
Speaker 2: kind of pick his brain. And I, you know, the
Speaker 2: ups the downs that being in COVID and the next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen months later, I can't even get a
Speaker 2: coffee without someone you know, saying something to me about hey,
Speaker 2: nice at Augusta or you know whatever. It was just
Speaker 2: a very big fifteen months. You know, you go from
Speaker 2: this complete anonymity and isolation. So then fifteen months later,
Speaker 2: you know you're turning down going on the Today Show.
Speaker 2: So that's like it was a huge, huge, huge pivot
Speaker 2: in my life. And I think he helped me a
Speaker 2: lot with that, and you know, really was helpful. I
Speaker 2: would say, through all of the success I had in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, to kind of keep me balanced and
Speaker 2: kind of keep staying on tasks to try to go,
Speaker 2: you know, get my first one.
Speaker 3: And they asked Ben Hogan once. Ben Hogan asked his
Speaker 3: caddy once how far to the pin from here? The
Speaker 3: caddy said five eighty six and ben Hogan said, which
Speaker 3: one is? It? Does that sum up the way a
Speaker 3: PGA tour pro plays will.
Speaker 2: So I would there's a mixed but I would say
Speaker 2: a vast majority of caddies and tour pros most likely
Speaker 2: if they have one hundred and fifty six yards, let's
Speaker 2: stay for random numbers. If they have one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty six yards and the winds a little end two
Speaker 2: and it's two yards uphill, Like I would not be
Speaker 2: surprised if a caddy is sitting there saying, give me
Speaker 2: your one sixty four shot right here.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The reality is is that all of us know how
Speaker 2: far that we hit clubs, and you're kind of doing
Speaker 2: some math. But then you also have the other end
Speaker 2: of the spectrum with Brooks Koepka, where he is more
Speaker 2: like he's got an eight iron pulled out of his
Speaker 2: bag before Ricky Elliott even has the yardage, so he
Speaker 2: just sees it and he's like, I know this is
Speaker 2: an eight iron just because I've played here, you know,
Speaker 2: fifteen times and it's always been an eight iron. So
Speaker 2: there's there is. It's a little bit like pitching where
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you've got guys like Paul Skans
Speaker 2: who have got the water jug up on their shoulder
Speaker 2: and they're doing the whole you know, warming up all
Speaker 2: you know, in the back of the and then you
Speaker 2: think of the old days of like guys how they
Speaker 2: were like, you know, I'll just have a cigarette and
Speaker 2: you know, crack my neck and I'm gonna go throw
Speaker 2: you know, eight shutout innings. You know, there's less of
Speaker 2: that now, but there still is a little more. There
Speaker 2: are some guys that are very tight. B I guess
Speaker 2: this is the way of putting it right, as long
Speaker 2: as it works with all matters right.
Speaker 3: Yes, John Smoltz, I took a cross country trip with
Speaker 3: him once. He told me he's got eleven holes in one.
Speaker 3: And he also told me a story about a guy
Speaker 3: who played with a PGA Tour pro who was playing
Speaker 3: a course and it wasn't a tournament. The guy was
Speaker 3: just playing the course for the first time with some
Speaker 3: friends and smolt said that it was a blind shot
Speaker 3: on a par five and they told the pro just
Speaker 3: aim at that really big clock in the background, way
Speaker 3: in the background, and the pro said, what time on
Speaker 3: the clock should I aim for? Meaning eight forty five
Speaker 3: and three point fifteen are two different shots. Now, will
Speaker 3: you're you're shaking your head? Is that an overstatement or
Speaker 3: did he actually mean that?
Speaker 2: Look, let the legend grow right, Like we're talking about
Speaker 2: two feet between from three hundred yards away. Either one
Speaker 2: of them's an A plus plus, So I don't. Yeah, Look,
Speaker 2: I love stuff like that because there are moments where
Speaker 2: like Tiger at where it was at St. Andrews when
Speaker 2: he won by twelve and two thousand, he hit like
Speaker 2: a five wood or something and Stevie Williams told him
Speaker 2: to aim at the steeple that's, you know, in the
Speaker 2: town of St. Andrews. And there's a great video of
Speaker 2: him where he hits the shot and he's holding his
Speaker 2: pose and he does the little club twirl and he goes,
Speaker 2: is that the steeple you're talking about?
Speaker 3: Just like.
Speaker 2: And like stuff like that is awesome. I love that stuff.
Speaker 2: But of course, at the same time, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: the three pound bass is now a fifty eight pound tuna.
Speaker 3: That's the way the stories grow.
Speaker 1: Oh well, So I'm curious to know from from your perspective. Right,
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about baseball players playing golf. We've
Speaker 1: talked a lot about Tony Romo football players. Who else
Speaker 1: have you had the opportunity to play with? I mean,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the first question you would ask Barry Bonds
Speaker 1: is how many shots do you want? So obviously your
Speaker 1: love language is getting on a course with somebody.
Speaker 2: I think that put it this way, because we talked
Speaker 2: about it earlier. It's it's for some reason on the
Speaker 2: front of my head. I wouldn't put it as a person.
Speaker 2: But I would say that if I ever got to
Speaker 2: play with Maddox, Glavin and Smoltz, that would probably be
Speaker 2: as like legit, Like, I'm actually kind of like a
Speaker 2: little nervous here because this is like it's something I've known,
Speaker 2: like I've watched them. Getting them back together, for one,
Speaker 2: would be insane. But the other part of it, too
Speaker 2: is the million questions I would ask them about baseball
Speaker 2: and the million questions they'd ask me about golf. But
Speaker 2: playing with those three guys, I probably wouldn't say much.
Speaker 2: I would just be soaking in every single thing I can,
Speaker 2: because I like, I would love that. You know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of really fun athletes that I've played with,
Speaker 2: but I would say that most likely that would be
Speaker 2: the most Like I'm not saying that because we're here.
Speaker 2: It's just Maddox kind of has that a little bit
Speaker 2: of the same thing with the uh you know the
Speaker 2: I love that the where he talks about when he
Speaker 2: had the baseball and it had the like the intention
Speaker 2: in it and then finally it got fouled off and
Speaker 2: he goes, all right, everything's fair again, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I love that comment. I love that comment. It's like,
Speaker 2: all right, he you know, they have a chance again.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, same thing, like when he had the
Speaker 2: Chris Bryant red Bull thing and Chris is like trying
Speaker 2: to hit a homer and he's like, that's not the
Speaker 2: warning track, Like he knows it's not the warning track,
Speaker 2: Like without even looking back, He's like, nah, it's short.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I just love that, Like that would
Speaker 2: be so much fun, especially with the stories I've heard
Speaker 2: about Smoltz and two, so I think that'd be really cool.
Speaker 2: I'm a baseball jockey at heart. If I if I
Speaker 2: couldn't have played, if I didn't play golf, I'd like,
Speaker 2: I said, the only thing I could do is basically
Speaker 2: throw really hard and really fast. So they suck me
Speaker 2: in a pitcher in short and then they saw me
Speaker 2: hit and said what's going practice.
Speaker 3: Well, well, Derek Low, former pitcher, played with Maddox once
Speaker 3: and I said what was that like? And he said,
Speaker 3: he plays golf exactly the way that he pitches. He
Speaker 3: is a genius out there. He is a robot out there.
Speaker 3: He knows every angle of every shot and he plays
Speaker 3: golf like he pitches, which makes him great. And then
Speaker 3: I asked Glavin once what is Smolts like on the
Speaker 3: golf course and he said, well, he's great first off,
Speaker 3: but he said, there isn't one shot that John doesn't
Speaker 3: think he can hit. Like He'll look at those two
Speaker 3: guys and he says, I'm gonna fade this around that
Speaker 3: tree out there two hundred and forty yards away with this.
Speaker 3: Three would at Glavins look at him, said John, you
Speaker 3: can't do that. Tiger can't do nobody could do that.
Speaker 3: And Smolts so will. This will be our mission. Those
Speaker 3: guys are absolutely the greatest three guys in the world
Speaker 3: to play with. We need to arrange around where you
Speaker 3: play with those three. That would be great, but let's
Speaker 3: be clear. You would clobber them in their prime and
Speaker 3: you right now as golfers, you would kill all three
Speaker 3: of them and it would still be the greatest day
Speaker 3: of your whole life.
Speaker 2: And I they could get so deep into my pocket
Speaker 2: and I will still be telling that story for life.
Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't enjoy that part of it, but like,
Speaker 2: I would love to play golf with those guys. And
Speaker 2: here just the banter going back and forth. You know,
Speaker 2: I just always thought that was really cool, just having
Speaker 2: guys like that together, Like Gavin's kind of got a
Speaker 2: fun little golf crew that he has on the padres
Speaker 2: And I just always thought that was cool where it's
Speaker 2: like the guys are on their off He's and like, hey,
Speaker 2: what do you go do? We're in Dallas's go play golf,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's I just always thought that was
Speaker 2: so fun. But yeah, those three guys would be an
Speaker 2: absolute blast man.
Speaker 1: Well, we talked to Jeff frank Court, he played with Tiger.
Speaker 1: We put one of our favorite stories ever been told
Speaker 1: on the podcast, Bobby Cox let him leave early, faked
Speaker 1: an injury in a spring training game. It's been said
Speaker 1: on this podcast a million times. It's our favorite story ever.
Speaker 1: But the thing that he said about Tiger was best
Speaker 1: guy on the golf course, laughing, joking, having fun. But
Speaker 1: when he stands over that ball, it's like eighteen at
Speaker 1: the Masters, right, Like he is just like locked in
Speaker 1: even when you're like, lack of a better term, having fun,
Speaker 1: goofing off on the course. You said, make golf. Is
Speaker 1: are you always that automatically You're like, yeah, totally bang,
Speaker 1: Like is it is it just kind of like instinctive,
Speaker 1: instinctual to you at this.
Speaker 2: Point, Well, yes, so, because I would say that, like,
Speaker 2: there's a really cool thing that I don't even know
Speaker 2: if you guys have ever seen this, but there's a
Speaker 2: video of Tiger throughout his prime and they put a
Speaker 2: stopwatch of him hitting different putts at different points in
Speaker 2: his career, and it was like the amount of time
Speaker 2: over the ball was like between sixteen seconds and like
Speaker 2: sixteen point seven seconds every single time, like it was
Speaker 2: within a second. And the whole point of that is
Speaker 2: his process doesn't start when he's over the ball. His
Speaker 2: whole thing starts four feet behind the golf ball. He's
Speaker 2: envisioning the shot, he's rehearsing what he's thinking on or
Speaker 2: what he's trying to do. Then he envisions it again,
Speaker 2: then he walks into it. He looks at his intermediate spot,
Speaker 2: gives a couple of waggles, shuffles his feet, then he
Speaker 2: looks again at his target, and then eyes go back
Speaker 2: and then he pulls the trigger. So the whole thing
Speaker 2: is just like one movement. So it's kind of like
Speaker 2: if you were to it's like, Jeff, we were to
Speaker 2: go work on your golf game right now, and if
Speaker 2: I already give you one hundred golf balls, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to tell you what to do, you know, over zoom,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna go bust your tail with those hundred
Speaker 2: golf balls and keep raking them and raking them. They
Speaker 2: won't be as quality as me telling you ten golf
Speaker 2: balls on the driving range, making you go through your
Speaker 2: routine every single time, because that's just like it's like
Speaker 2: everybody sees on TV. They e golf, they see all
Speaker 2: the makes, they see the hole on ones, they see
Speaker 2: the chip ins. The reality is you're seeing like one
Speaker 2: of the two to four best shots of that guy,
Speaker 2: like of that day. You miss the pitching wedge that
Speaker 2: they hit in the right bunker on fourteen, because that's
Speaker 2: bad television. You know, Like there's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: things that are like that, where it's like you keep
Speaker 2: seeing the highlights and you also are seeing just them
Speaker 2: over the ball. And I believe that a lot of
Speaker 2: it now is in majors, Like they're starting to put
Speaker 2: the mics on the caddy bibs so you can hear
Speaker 2: the discussion a lot more. And what you'll see now
Speaker 2: is you'll see more of the guys kind of laboring
Speaker 2: through decisions and you'll think that will be more deliberate.
Speaker 2: But the difference is is that it's conversation that you
Speaker 2: didn't have access to before, and if you have more,
Speaker 2: if you have more access to more conversation with hearing
Speaker 2: a Rory McElroy as Scotti Scheffler or Andanerschoffley in the
Speaker 2: middle of their round, you're absolutely gonna want to watch
Speaker 2: that and hear that. You know, we have a lot
Speaker 2: going on. Baseball is a lot going on in terms
Speaker 2: of like media, you know, meteorites, labor agreement, blah blah.
Speaker 2: We've obviously had a lot going on the last three
Speaker 2: four years. To put it mildly, you know, the biggest
Speaker 2: point of contention for US is we need a mimic
Speaker 2: baseball and that baseball has gotten an hour faster and
Speaker 2: ratings have gotten way better. Well, look, the problem that
Speaker 2: we have is that it's like I had to do
Speaker 2: it outing the other day in Dallas and I was like, look,
Speaker 2: nobody wants to watch the final group in a US
Speaker 2: Open playing in five hours and thirty two minutes, like
Speaker 2: there are twosome. But then you know, some guy says
Speaker 2: in the background, like it's like, well, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: get my two hour nap in while I'm watching, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, and we wonder why the twenty five to
Speaker 2: forty five year old demographic we've struggled with, Like this
Speaker 2: all is just this is just laying itself out there
Speaker 2: for us. So however we can make the game faster
Speaker 2: and having more action going on, Like that's that's just
Speaker 2: something long term that we obviously like you guys are baseball,
Speaker 2: did it right? I mean the pitch clock everything cuts
Speaker 2: fifty minutes out of the game, Like it's it's great,
Speaker 2: but like you know, for us, if you're gonna have
Speaker 2: you know, watch as a featured group, you know, on
Speaker 2: a Thursday Friday of a major like expected to take
Speaker 2: five hours and twenty five minutes. And that's the problem.
Speaker 1: And my dad is the fastest golfer you've ever met.
Speaker 1: He is a good player. Well we've joked a lot
Speaker 1: about my game. My dad is a good player, and
Speaker 1: he does not like talking about himself on the podcast
Speaker 1: that features the storied Hall of Fame baseball writer. Anytime
Speaker 1: a guest compliment Tim, you're one of the best in
Speaker 1: the game, he texts me after cut where John Smoltz
Speaker 1: said I was great at my job.
Speaker 3: The point is it's.
Speaker 1: So hard in golf when you're like us, because we're
Speaker 1: just like we got to get home.
Speaker 3: Our wives are waiting for us. We're already on borrow time.
Speaker 3: I got young kids.
Speaker 2: So when dad and I play.
Speaker 1: In under three and a half hours, that's the greatest
Speaker 1: day ever.
Speaker 2: Look when my dad and I, you know, when we play,
Speaker 2: Like I joked that he doesn't play golf holes. He
Speaker 2: plays golf shots. So like if he hits two bad
Speaker 2: golf shots on a hole, he just picks it up
Speaker 2: and goes to the next hole. Right, So we're done
Speaker 2: in like two hours. So the part that I laugh
Speaker 2: at is like we tia, you know, you tea off
Speaker 2: at eight and then we're let's say, done by ten fifteen.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, oh slunchtime, and I'm like ten
Speaker 2: fifteen okay, now, like dinner's gonna get moved up. Like
Speaker 2: so it's always been a funny, it's always been a
Speaker 2: funny dynamic. But I love playing quick. I love ripping around.
Speaker 2: I also love walking and taking my time, you know,
Speaker 2: at dusk with some guys like so I I just
Speaker 2: you know, kind of my favorite favorite thing to do
Speaker 2: is go play the back night at cal Club, like
Speaker 2: right around four o'clock at night, Like that's one of
Speaker 2: my favorite things to do. But when I'm in Dallas,
Speaker 2: go play thirty six holes at Dallas National McCart in
Speaker 2: five hours and just rip you know I love amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no one, But I'm not rushing, like I just in
Speaker 2: a cart and I'm just takes me five minutes to
Speaker 2: play a golf hole.
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't what it should. But you're as good
Speaker 3: as you are too, right ruly from now?
Speaker 1: Three married men on this podcast, does your wife also
Speaker 1: give you heat that you could be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: on fourteen, I hit that ball with my six iron
Speaker 1: X amount of yards, hit it eight feet from the pin.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But you can't remember, you know, what she said we
Speaker 1: were gonna have for dinner, what meeting we had, Like
Speaker 1: is it the same for PGA? It's your job. But
Speaker 1: like my wife's like you, how can you remember those shots?
Speaker 1: But you can't remember what I told you this morning
Speaker 1: to remember to do.
Speaker 2: I could I could tell you how far I had
Speaker 2: on the Thursday at Shinnecock in twenty eighteen on whole
Speaker 2: number seven. We're at one seventy eight and hit a
Speaker 2: seven iron. But my wife left this morning to go
Speaker 2: get her car taken into the dealership, and she left
Speaker 2: the house and I totally forgot why she was going
Speaker 2: to the dealership or where she was going. I had
Speaker 2: no idea. I was like, all right, we'll be back,
Speaker 2: all right, where are you going, honey?
Speaker 3: Where are you honey?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The golf thing, it never changes. We all you
Speaker 2: know that we always remember the one shot that brings
Speaker 2: us back to you know, that's that's the one good
Speaker 2: shot or the one stupid thing, and then for some
Speaker 2: reason we want to keep going back and scratching the edge.
Speaker 3: It's so good, I will will. We took We took
Speaker 3: over an hour of your time today, So we have
Speaker 3: to stop this at some point. But golf, baseball, two
Speaker 3: beautiful games merging today for an hour, ten minutes, absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us. And now, Jeff, I
Speaker 3: don't know how we can do this, but we got
Speaker 3: to get him with the three Hall of Fame braves pictures.
Speaker 3: It would be the coolest as long as.
Speaker 2: Asy as long we have a little father son outing too,
Speaker 2: where you know, the Zalis forces take on the Kirchins
Speaker 2: at some point, I would love dad.
Speaker 3: How many shots would we need? Genuinely, how many shots
Speaker 3: would we would need? More than he's gonna give Barry Pods,
Speaker 3: that's for sure, right Will, My clubs live in the basement,
Speaker 3: so I play so minimally I have to drag them
Speaker 3: up the stairs to get them.
Speaker 1: They are not even in the garage or in the truck.
Speaker 1: That's where they live right now for temperature control.
Speaker 3: Like that's gonna help my game at all.
Speaker 1: Like keeping them in the garage is going to be
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: Oh, I knowed when the season's over come down, I'd
Speaker 2: love it. I would love that.
Speaker 3: Will. I lived in Dallas for four years. Jeffrey and
Speaker 3: his sister were born in Dallas, so we need to
Speaker 3: make a trip back and show them the house that
Speaker 3: they were basically born in groups lived the first two
Speaker 3: four years of their lives in. So that will be
Speaker 3: the perfect opportunity to go play golf with Will and
Speaker 3: his dad, who will be picking up at least six
Speaker 3: times at eighteen old and then have lunch at ten
Speaker 3: fifteen in the morning. It'll be great.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my dad's gonna hear that, and he's
Speaker 2: gonna be like, you're not wrong, but I mean, come.
Speaker 1: On, well, my dad's seventieth birthdays at the end of
Speaker 1: the year, and I think we just figured out the trip,
Speaker 1: so we'll make it happen, will.
Speaker 2: I love it?
Speaker 3: Thanks for thanks for answering my DMS.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't slid into a DMS since I
Speaker 1: was a single man, and it wasn't a professional golfers
Speaker 1: I was trying to slide into.
Speaker 3: You answered.
Speaker 1: You have blown us away with your great stories and
Speaker 1: your love for baseball. Thank you so much for taking
Speaker 1: some time for our little podcast.
Speaker 2: Y'all are the best. Can't wait to see you. I
Speaker 2: can't wait to see you guys in person soon