Andy Pages vs. Dikembe Mutombo, HUH?
Tim Kurkjian impressions were a big thing back in the day, and he finally reveals which one he thinks is the best...but you'll have to wait for that. The strikeout rate continues to be one of the biggest storylines in baseball this season. Plus, remember the name Tyler Tolbert, because he's about to make history!
The Dodgers came close to setting a record for the fewest extra-inning games, while Andy Pages somehow gets compared to Dikembe Mutombo and Manute Bol—a comparison we definitely didn't see coming. And can you Weathers this Quirkjian? We're not sure you'll be able to.
On This Date features Robin Roberts, Ted Williams, and Alex Rios (no, not Jeff's father-in-law). Plus, Tim shares a hilarious ESPN taxi cab story involving a mistake that any diehard baseball fan could've made...right?
The Alphabest letter "P" gives us the perfect excuse to celebrate the incredible career of Albert Pujols while debating which "P" pitcher deserves a spot on the list. Jeff also pulls three cards from the 2001 box for Tim, including one featuring a player whose brother was a Major League umpire—a baseball connection most fans never knew.
Finally, a member of the Kurkjian family puts Tim to the test with Team Tim. It's a challenge that proves difficult for multiple reasons—sometimes because there just aren't enough options, and other times because there are far too many.
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Speaker 1: And welcome back to is this a great game or
Speaker 1: what with the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkshen, I'm his son,
Speaker 1: Jeff Kirkshon, Dad, we gotta be upfront with the members
Speaker 1: of the family. Next week our podcast will be live
Speaker 1: in person in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: For the All Star Game.
Speaker 1: We're almost at the All Star break already. This season
Speaker 1: is flying by Dad.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is how every season goes. It gets
Speaker 3: going and then it just and then before you know it,
Speaker 3: you're at the All Star Game. So explain where we're
Speaker 3: gonna be, Jeff, and what we're gonna be doing. We're
Speaker 3: not gonna be taping at your house on Sunday. We're
Speaker 3: gonna go live on Monday and explain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we are going to be at the Iron
Speaker 1: Hill Brewery. Hate that word, but it's a great place
Speaker 1: to hang in Philadelphia Monday at noon and Tuesday at
Speaker 1: New Ironhill Brewery. I'm gonna put all the information in
Speaker 1: the show notes, so whether you're watching on YouTube or
Speaker 1: listening audio only, you'll see it in the show notes,
Speaker 1: all the details, where to meet us, address all that
Speaker 1: good stuff noon to twelve forty Monday and Tuesday with
Speaker 1: our friends at foul Territory as well.
Speaker 2: They'll go live at one o'clock. It's gonna be an.
Speaker 1: Incredible day of baseball, of camaraderie, of fun.
Speaker 2: So, Dad, I.
Speaker 1: Am really looking forward to making this happen. I really
Speaker 1: think bringing the show on the road is the most
Speaker 1: fun thing. Now for the road me is down the
Speaker 1: street in Philly, but nonetheless doing it in front of people,
Speaker 1: I'm really stoked. And I think my old roommate Ben
Speaker 1: ben Fontana, he's gonna be there. He just told me
Speaker 1: that a friend of his gave him tickets to some
Speaker 1: events for All Star Week, and I told him we
Speaker 1: got a live show. He listens to every episode, Dad,
Speaker 1: So anybody's more than welcome to come join us.
Speaker 3: Right, That's great. We're gonna have guests, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: so all stars on the show. We're gonna do all
Speaker 3: of our regular stuff that we do, quirkchins, all that stuff,
Speaker 3: but we're gonna mix it in with a live studio audience.
Speaker 3: And there's nothing more exciting than that, Jeff, when you're
Speaker 3: out there among the people and you know they see
Speaker 3: you and I working together, and the first thing they're
Speaker 3: going to say is boy they sound alike, and boy
Speaker 3: are they short. But that's what you do when you
Speaker 3: go out. So next week, it's a great night. Next week.
Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to it. Before we get there.
Speaker 3: Tuesday night on July seventh, I went to the Big Train.
Speaker 3: Once a year, I go down to the Big Train,
Speaker 3: which is the cal Ripkin Senior College Baseball League, and
Speaker 3: they had their all Star game and they played the
Speaker 3: Valley League from the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia, and they
Speaker 3: had an All Star game at the Big Train field
Speaker 3: at Shirley Povich Field in Bethesda, Maryland, where I grew up.
Speaker 3: So it was really cool. I got to throw out
Speaker 3: the first ball, and this was different. The other first
Speaker 3: ball was thrown out by Justin Bohrer, who was a
Speaker 3: former Major leaguer, was a really good hitter in his
Speaker 3: day and he's now working with the Brewers helping, you know,
Speaker 3: teach the game to the young Brewers. Pretty good place
Speaker 3: to be right now. And so that was really fun.
Speaker 3: You you always love going to the Big Train, right.
Speaker 1: I've had birthday parties there, great times. We did an
Speaker 1: episode from the Big Train last summer.
Speaker 2: It really is a special place.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it reminds so much of minor
Speaker 1: league baseball, summer league. College ball is just the ultimate.
Speaker 1: It's so great. I missed the big train. And Dad,
Speaker 1: did you meet any of the Tim Kirkschins fellows.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did, but yes, but I've already met with
Speaker 3: them this year. Okay, But what I did was I
Speaker 3: actually got to address all the All Stars from the
Speaker 3: Valley League and all the All Stars from the Cal
Speaker 3: Ripkens Senior League. So you know, there were twenty five
Speaker 3: guys on each team, and I just stood there and
Speaker 3: told them how hard the game is to play and
Speaker 3: to just keep fighting at it because you know, if
Speaker 3: you have a bad day, it's going to happen because
Speaker 3: baseball is so difficult. And Jeff, I don't want to
Speaker 3: be corny about this, but you look in the eyes
Speaker 3: of these college baseball players and all they want to
Speaker 3: do is play the game. They want to get drafted,
Speaker 3: they want to play professionally, they want to get to
Speaker 3: the big leagues. And the best part was, you know
Speaker 3: they're going to be there will at least be a
Speaker 3: couple of big leaguers who played in that game on
Speaker 3: Tuesday night who were going to play Major League Baseball someday,
Speaker 3: and I just love that. Who knows which one it's
Speaker 3: going to be, but I'd say that a couple of
Speaker 3: those kids are going to play in the big leagues.
Speaker 3: And everyone who was at the game that night can
Speaker 3: say I was there, I saw that guy when he
Speaker 3: played at Povish Field. So it's really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very neat.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of alum have come from these
Speaker 1: types of leagues.
Speaker 2: I know we talked about.
Speaker 1: Hunter Brown, who's a member, was a former member of
Speaker 1: the great as the Big Train in so many others.
Speaker 1: So Dad, I'm so glad. I know that's your happy place.
Speaker 1: You grew up in Bethesda, Maryland, and you get to
Speaker 1: give back to that team a couple times a year
Speaker 1: every year. We love the BETHESSA Big Train. So whether
Speaker 1: you live in Maryland or you live anywhere across the country,
Speaker 1: go support these great leagues because it's fans that help
Speaker 1: support these young players. And again, as you said, Dad,
Speaker 1: you never know who you're going to see that one
Speaker 1: day you're going to be able to say I saw
Speaker 1: him when Remember when we saw Kevin Durant play a
Speaker 1: college or excuse me, a high school basketball game.
Speaker 2: Kevin, Yeah, Durant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was right, And.
Speaker 2: I still tell that story to this day that I.
Speaker 1: Saw Kevin Durant when he played in high school. Aside,
Speaker 1: this is the kind of opportunity you have to see
Speaker 1: some future major league stars, maybe get an autograph that'd
Speaker 1: be worth something.
Speaker 3: And of course they have two great statues. They're one
Speaker 3: of Shirley Povitch, the great sports writer, interviewing Walter Johnson,
Speaker 3: the greatest picture of all time. And so we got
Speaker 3: a bunch of pictures taken around these two great statues
Speaker 3: of Shirley Povich interviewing Walter Johnson the picture. Did I
Speaker 3: ever tell you I went to Walter Johnson High School?
Speaker 3: Have I ever told you that? Jeff? How many times?
Speaker 2: Only a hundred?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, it's probably the most used statement
Speaker 1: on here on this podcast, for sure, tell you. And
Speaker 1: that's what the Big Train's named after, obviously, but that's
Speaker 1: the Big Train, the Big Train, Walter Johnson. So perfect,
Speaker 1: All right, Dad, should we jump into the takeaways?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, Jeff, Tuesday night in baseball was just one
Speaker 3: of those incredibly wild nights. So Tyler Tolbert as went
Speaker 3: into Monday's games. He plays for the Royals. He's twenty
Speaker 3: eight years old. He plays the outfield, he plays shortstop.
Speaker 3: He can really run going into Monday's games, Jeff, he
Speaker 3: had twenty one career hits, twenty one and you know
Speaker 3: he hadn't played very long, but he got twelve hits
Speaker 3: in row. Jeff, So he tied a major league record
Speaker 3: by batting twelve at bats twelve hits. So he tied
Speaker 3: the record hell by Johnny Kling, Pinky Higgins, Walt Dropo,
Speaker 3: Jose Miranda, twelve at bats in a row, twelve hits,
Speaker 3: and no one's ever done thirteen straight. And he also Jeff, Well,
Speaker 3: first off, you look at those guys on the list,
Speaker 3: and with all due respect, none of them was a
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. None of them was a great player.
Speaker 3: Pinky Higgins could really hit, Walt drow Boat did some
Speaker 3: really big things. It just strikes me again, you would think,
Speaker 3: you know, ty Cop must have gotten twelve hits in
Speaker 3: a row, Rod carew Tony Gwinn, Wave Boggs, Ted Williams, somebody.
Speaker 3: But no, it was now five guys that not everyone,
Speaker 3: not everyone has heard of. And look, I don't want
Speaker 3: any old timers saying, hey, Pinky Higgins. I know Pinky
Speaker 3: Higgins was a two to ninety two lifetime hitter. Not
Speaker 3: the point. My point has always been, Jeff, the great
Speaker 3: players in the history of the NBA, they hold all
Speaker 3: the records, but five guys here hold a major league
Speaker 3: record for consecutive hits and it's twelve. Yeah. Tyler Tolbert
Speaker 3: also became the third player ever to have consecutive five
Speaker 3: hit games. Hi Meyers did it in nineteen seventeen, and
Speaker 3: the great Roberto Clementi did it in nineteen seventy. And
Speaker 3: the second time Tolbert did it, he was hitting ninth
Speaker 3: in the order and had a five hit game one
Speaker 3: day after having another five hit game. Does that, Jeff?
Speaker 3: This is why baseball is so great. Is that somebody
Speaker 3: who you didn't expect to get twelve hits in a
Speaker 3: row tied to major league record that has been around
Speaker 3: for a long time. Pretty cool, huh?
Speaker 1: And from ninth from ninth, I mean we obsessed with
Speaker 1: the ninth hole for a long time.
Speaker 2: Last season.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was kind of like the undertone
Speaker 1: of the pod was who's bat ninth and what are
Speaker 1: they hitting? And Carson Kelly comes to mind. But Dad,
Speaker 1: this is incredible. Two games, five hits.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love it right.
Speaker 3: Also on Tuesday Night, Jeff, Ryan O'Hearn of the Pirates
Speaker 3: knocked in ten runs ten runs in one game. Keep
Speaker 3: in mind, Jeff, the Pirates have now scored ten or
Speaker 3: more runs in a game eleven times already. They scored
Speaker 3: ten or more runs in the game last year last
Speaker 3: year seven times the whole season. So when you look
Speaker 3: at the Pirates and what they did in the offseason
Speaker 3: bringing in Ryan O'Hearn and Brandon Lowe, they are demonstrably
Speaker 3: better offensive team. So O'Hearn hit three home runs in
Speaker 3: the game, Jeff. That's the ninth three home run game
Speaker 3: this year, ninth already, and he became the fourth player
Speaker 3: ever to have three homers in a game. And each
Speaker 3: one of them had at least one runner on base
Speaker 3: in the three homer game, which is amazing. He's the
Speaker 3: seventeen let's see, he is the seventeenth player since nineteen
Speaker 3: twenty when RBIs became official to drive in ten runs
Speaker 3: in a game. Shoe Otani was the last to do
Speaker 3: it in twenty twenty four. But I love this, Jef.
Speaker 3: He is the first player ever to drive in his
Speaker 3: first his team's first ten runs of the game. So
Speaker 3: wo Tuesday Night, the Pirates had ten runs in the game,
Speaker 3: and Ryan O'Hearn had driven in all of them. First
Speaker 3: guy ever well since nineteen twenty to do that. Does that,
Speaker 3: I mean, does that not surprise you? Is that not
Speaker 3: great that Ryan O'Hearn is a good player, made the
Speaker 3: All Star team last year, but still did not see
Speaker 3: a three homer ten RBI game coming out of Tuesday Night.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's off his obviously impressive, but it's
Speaker 1: also extremely lucky because if you're bringing that many people
Speaker 1: and putting them on base, someone's bound to score. If
Speaker 1: you're getting that many runners on base, for one guy
Speaker 1: to drive in ten runs, and so the fact that
Speaker 1: none of them scored, they we're able to get one,
Speaker 1: two or three runners on You would think someone would
Speaker 1: be round to the basis, but not in this case.
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Speaker 3: All right, Jeff Again. Tuesday night, another big strikeout night.
Speaker 3: The Yankees struck out seventeen times, and they did that
Speaker 3: in back to back games for the first time in
Speaker 3: the history of the franchise. They struck out seventeen times
Speaker 3: in back to back games, and they still didn't have
Speaker 3: the most strikeouts that night. In the major leagues. The
Speaker 3: Reds struck out eighteen times. Jeff, it's an epidemic. I
Speaker 3: know I talk about it way too much, and I
Speaker 3: acknowledge I don't know anyone gets a hit today, but
Speaker 3: look at the strikeout totals every day. It's just I mean,
Speaker 3: Zach Wheeler struck out fourteen on Tuesday night and what
Speaker 3: seven innings and still hasn't made the All Star d
Speaker 3: which just amazes me. Now.
Speaker 1: I know, I know the I think the Zach Wheeler
Speaker 1: snub is a little bit tough for especially Phillies fans,
Speaker 1: But when you look at his numbers, I mean, my gosh,
Speaker 1: he's had a great season, but nonetheless a lot of
Speaker 1: strikeouts for a lot of pitchers, and these.
Speaker 2: Poor players they just can't keep up with it, right.
Speaker 3: But Luisa Rise and Geraldo Perdomo have. They are the
Speaker 3: two players this year Arrivese for the Giants, Perdomo for
Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks, who have more walks than strikeouts this year
Speaker 3: among qualifiers and last year among qualifiers. So the only
Speaker 3: two players in twenty five and twenty six to be
Speaker 3: qualified for the batting title and have more walks than strikeouts.
Speaker 3: It's just so so hard to do these days. Speaking
Speaker 3: of the Diamondbacks, ktel Marte has played seventy two games
Speaker 3: at second base this year, and he hasn't made an error. Jeff,
Speaker 3: I mean that is a prime defensive position. Pretty darn.
Speaker 3: No one else has played second base in seventy games
Speaker 3: this year without making an error. And he's a great
Speaker 3: offensive player. So he's he's a very underrated player. When
Speaker 3: we talk about underrated players, you better include him. Speaking
Speaker 3: of big number, show Hey, Otani hit a home run
Speaker 3: number three hundred, So he is the first player ever, Jeff,
Speaker 3: in his first nine seasons to have three hundred homers
Speaker 3: and one hundred steals, and he's doing it while competing
Speaker 3: for a Cy Young Award in the National League. When
Speaker 3: you put those sentences together, Jeff, it just doesn't make
Speaker 3: any sense.
Speaker 1: Right, nothing, And I say nothing makes sense with that man,
Speaker 1: show Hey Otani. Remember when we had the commissioner of
Speaker 1: is this a great game?
Speaker 4: Or what?
Speaker 1: Mike sure On He said, can we just talk about
Speaker 1: show Hey for a minute. It's just become so commonplace, Dad,
Speaker 1: that we don't even think about just how crazy good
Speaker 1: this guy is.
Speaker 2: He's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: It's amazing, He's unbelievable, all right, Last one, Jeff, the
Speaker 3: Padres are struggling. The Padres have been shut out ten
Speaker 3: times this year. That's the most in the major leagues.
Speaker 3: And Jeff, you know, we've talked a lot about really
Speaker 3: good hitters, Cal Raley, Manny Machado. We're hitting under two
Speaker 3: hundred right now. We're throwing up our hands, like, these
Speaker 3: guys are really good players, but the pitching they're facing
Speaker 3: is just so dominant. But Manny Machado, hitting under two hundred,
Speaker 3: leads the Padres in run scored homers, RBIs and walks,
Speaker 3: all while batting under two hundred. Now does that not speak, Jeff,
Speaker 3: to the game that we play today, that you can
Speaker 3: still produce runs, you can still be arguably the best
Speaker 3: offensive player on your team, and you're still hitting under
Speaker 3: two hundred. Does that follow at all?
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't follow at all. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. The only other player in
Speaker 3: the major leagues that's leading his team in run scored homers,
Speaker 3: RBIs and walks is Matt Olsen of the Braves. But
Speaker 3: he's hitting over two hundred, unlike Manny Machado. So those, Jeff,
Speaker 3: are the takeaways. I have a million of those every week.
Speaker 3: But for time, we have to trim him up just
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of having a million of them, nobody has
Speaker 1: more quark gins than Tim quik Gin himself. All right,
Speaker 1: je Gin, did you not you not like that transition?
Speaker 2: Was it not good enough?
Speaker 3: Well no, Jeff, that waspeaking up.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, back up for a second. I have
Speaker 1: to say before we move on to the quarkchins. Do
Speaker 1: you know how many messages we have gotten on our
Speaker 1: social media on our website Great Game or what dot
Speaker 1: com about the resurfacing of Tim Dillard's impression of you
Speaker 1: talking to Niger Morgan.
Speaker 3: Yes, well I don't know how many, but I saw it, Tune.
Speaker 1: We've gotten tagged on social media dead a million times
Speaker 1: with Tim Dillard's impression of you.
Speaker 3: Well, if you watched the clip, and unfortunately I had
Speaker 3: to watch it again, Tim Dillar, we were not expecting him.
Speaker 3: Tim Dillard is one of the funniest people I have
Speaker 3: ever met in my life. He is wicked, funny, wicked clever,
Speaker 3: and he just ambushed us because that was the spring
Speaker 3: training Jeff, of course, where like ten different guys did
Speaker 3: a stupid impersonation of me, and that was that was
Speaker 3: arguably the best one because, as I said in the clip,
Speaker 3: he crouched down in order to do to be more
Speaker 3: of my height. And it made it even better that
Speaker 3: the playful Aaron Boone was sitting right next to me
Speaker 3: and he got such a kick out of it also,
Speaker 3: And you know, Niger Morgan thought it was really funny too.
Speaker 3: So look, I'm not sure that did much for my career, Jeff,
Speaker 3: But my my TV boss, Mike mcquaide called me and said,
Speaker 3: look to him, if you want these guys to stop
Speaker 3: doing this because you feel it makes you look stupid,
Speaker 3: feel free to tell him no more of this, but
Speaker 3: he said it's television gold, so just put up with
Speaker 3: it and let it go out. If you don't know.
Speaker 3: Ryan Dempster was also on that list of guys who
Speaker 3: are personated me, and he, you know, he's a former
Speaker 3: stand up comedian. He does impersonation, so he did Harry
Speaker 3: Carey interviewing me, and he used the voice of each
Speaker 3: So I'm just quoting here. He does his Harry Carey,
Speaker 3: which I can't do, but he says he where do
Speaker 3: you get all those stats from? And then he would
Speaker 3: do my voice to answer Harry Carey. So Brian Dempster
Speaker 3: did two impersonations in one. Yeah, but the Tim Diller one.
Speaker 3: Tim Dillar does Brewers TV. He's great. Brewers are great.
Speaker 3: It's so much fun to watch him, and he makes
Speaker 3: it a lot of fun because again he is so
Speaker 3: so funny.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go into the corks instead. Thank you
Speaker 2: for that, all right, Jeff.
Speaker 3: On Monday Monday was a quirkchin. The Royals played the
Speaker 3: Phillies on a Monday afternoon, and I don't think it
Speaker 3: was a makeup game. I didn't even research this completely.
Speaker 3: But and Christopher Sanchez was pret pitching for the Philly
Speaker 3: so you figured it's going to be a low run game. Instead,
Speaker 3: the Royals end up winning fifteen to one. And Jeff,
Speaker 3: they scored. They were the home team. They scored in
Speaker 3: all eight innings that they batted. You know how odd
Speaker 3: that is, Jeff. The last team to score in all
Speaker 3: eight innings was the White Sox in twenty sixteen, ten
Speaker 3: years ago. The last team to score in all nine
Speaker 3: innings of the game was the Rockies in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't seem like it's that hard get a
Speaker 3: run an inning, but you score every inning that you batted.
Speaker 3: The last time it's been done ten years ago, and
Speaker 3: so that was really impressive what the Royals did at
Speaker 3: a not a very good team. They're not a very
Speaker 3: good offensive team, but somehow they took one of the
Speaker 3: best pitchers in the game and just battered him and
Speaker 3: beat him fifteen to one. Did you watch the game,
Speaker 3: Jeff that day Monday?
Speaker 1: They were down four to one in the first inning,
Speaker 1: and I felt the writing was on the wall, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure glad I didn't turn it on any further.
Speaker 1: Usually dad pathetically with two kids. Now, if there's a
Speaker 1: game on, I'll wait for it to go for a
Speaker 1: little bit and then I'll see if I can rewind.
Speaker 1: I rewind and watch whatever innings that I missed, but
Speaker 1: it ends up being a blowout.
Speaker 2: I don't even go watch it.
Speaker 1: I don't have the time, Jay, I can't watch a
Speaker 1: blowout game.
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you won't have the time until Body and McKinley
Speaker 3: Hope are twenty five years old. Then you'll have the
Speaker 3: time to do things. Just be prepared as a two
Speaker 3: time father. Okay, okay, I love this. I didn't love
Speaker 3: this part. But Uri Perez of the Marlins, the red
Speaker 3: hot Marlins, who are a playoff contender. This is not
Speaker 3: a mirage. His team can pitch. They steal more bases
Speaker 3: than anyone else. They press the action. Uri Perez was
Speaker 3: taken out after seven innings even though he had a
Speaker 3: perfect game going. Now, look pitch counts. You know they
Speaker 3: set these. I don't like it, but I actually understand,
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to get angry about this. But
Speaker 3: and he's the first pitcher since Clayton Kershaw in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two to be taken out after seven innings with
Speaker 3: a perfect game going. But the best part about this, Jeff,
Speaker 3: is the final score of the game. The Marlins won
Speaker 3: the game nine to eight, and their pitcher had a
Speaker 3: perfect game through seven innings and they hung on to
Speaker 3: beat the A's nine to eight. So I called Frank
Speaker 3: from the Elias because I need to know the last
Speaker 3: pitcher to have a perfect game or a no hitter
Speaker 3: through seven and then the score ends up ninety eight. Well,
Speaker 3: Frank went back the last seventy five years, and the
Speaker 3: A's are the only team in the last seventy five
Speaker 3: years to be no hit for seven innings and end
Speaker 3: up scoring eight runs in the game. I mean, it
Speaker 3: just doesn't follow. Hey, this guy, they took him out. Well,
Speaker 3: what did they win three to one? Whatever? No, they
Speaker 3: won nine to eight, even though the first twenty one
Speaker 3: batters went in order.
Speaker 1: Dad, this is I was really upset when I saw that.
Speaker 1: And I get it pitch.
Speaker 2: Counts and all that, but I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Let the guy play, and especially when that was the
Speaker 1: final score. Clearly he had something going for him that
Speaker 1: the other pitchers in the bullpen couldn't do. Maybe none
Speaker 1: of them were expecting to go in every we're all surprised.
Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, remember when we had Max schers Or on
Speaker 3: the podcast. We had a rather serious discussion how we've
Speaker 3: lost the value of the starting pitcher. We don't even
Speaker 3: allow our starting pitchers to be great anymore because we
Speaker 3: take them out before they can be great. And again
Speaker 3: I'm not being critical critical of Clay McCollough, the manager
Speaker 3: who's really good with the Marlins. I'm just saying, this
Speaker 3: is the game that we play today. I find it unfortunate,
Speaker 3: but it leads to an amazing note like that which
Speaker 3: seventy five years, no team has ever been no hit
Speaker 3: for seven innings and ended up scoring eight runs. In
Speaker 3: the game. So, and speaking of that, the Mets and
Speaker 3: Braves played the other night and they scored a leven
Speaker 3: runs in the ninth inning. Comebine eleven runs. So that's
Speaker 3: the first time since two thousand and five that any
Speaker 3: team two teams together had scored eleven runs in the
Speaker 3: ninth inning of a game. It was just crazy, Jeff.
Speaker 3: There were so many crazy things. But one good thing
Speaker 3: we've been tracking this. The Dodgers played an extra inning game, Jeff.
Speaker 3: So they went and Jack was their ninety second game
Speaker 3: of the season, and it's the second most games ever
Speaker 3: into a season without playing an extra inning game. The
Speaker 3: only other team to go further with the two thousand
Speaker 3: and five Red Sox, who played nine in their ninety
Speaker 3: ninth game, they played their first extra inning game. Is
Speaker 3: that pretty cool?
Speaker 2: That is pretty neat. We've been waiting, we've been waiting.
Speaker 2: We've been tracking this.
Speaker 3: Dad.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's Jeff Kirkson.
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Speaker 3: I'm speaking of the Dodgers. Andy Paez, their center fielder,
Speaker 3: had another had two more assists the other day, so
Speaker 3: he's got at the time twelve outfield assists, which was
Speaker 3: four more than anyone in baseball. That's a lot. And
Speaker 3: I've always loved assists, Jeff, And I know this is
Speaker 3: way off the topic, but to Kembe Mtumbo, who played
Speaker 3: the NBA for years, once played eighty games in a
Speaker 3: season in the NBA and had ten assists. So Andy
Speaker 3: Bond has more outfield assists than to Kembe Mtumbo had
Speaker 3: in one thy two hundred and twelve minutes of the season.
Speaker 2: That is a great comparison. Kudos to you. That is
Speaker 2: so old crazy, all right.
Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty six, you know Minute Bowl who was
Speaker 3: like seven was like seven foot six. He had eleven
Speaker 3: assists in eighty two games. So he played fifteen hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty two minutes that season and had eleven assists.
Speaker 3: So Andy Pott haz Ha bore outfield assist before the
Speaker 3: All Star break. The Minute Bowl had during the entire
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty six eighty seven incredible, all right, Jeff, And
Speaker 3: you know how much I love names and numbers and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So we had a Joe Ryan Ryan
Speaker 3: Weathers matchup, and Joe Ryan got the win, Ryan Weathers
Speaker 3: got the loss. So the pitchers of record were Ryan
Speaker 3: Weathers and that's the name of the losing pitcher, right.
Speaker 2: So perfect, Ryan Weathers.
Speaker 1: Don't get it confused on the state and baseball history, Dad,
Speaker 1: what do you have?
Speaker 3: Jeff? Nineteen forty six, Ted Williams hit a home run
Speaker 3: in the All Star Game off of Rip Seool and
Speaker 3: Rip Soole is the guy who threw the blooper pitch
Speaker 3: and he threw it in the All Star Game. And
Speaker 3: Ted Williams for me, for me after Babe Ruth is
Speaker 3: the greatest hitter of all time. He hit a home
Speaker 3: run of the All Star Game off a blooper pitcher.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen in that video? Jeff? It's priceless.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't seen. I must have check it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, google Ted Williams home run in the All Star Game.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about a slow pitch softball. He
Speaker 3: throws it like almost straight up in the air and
Speaker 3: he can throw it for strikes. And Ted Williams at
Speaker 3: a home run off of it. So all right? Also, Jeff.
Speaker 3: On this date in nineteen fifty three, Robin Roberts Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame pitcher his complete game streak ended at twenty eight,
Speaker 3: so he had made twenty eight consecutive starts completing all
Speaker 3: of them, and on this date that streak ended. And Jeff,
Speaker 3: I told you about the first time I ever interviewed
Speaker 3: at ESPN. I've been there almost thirty years. The guy
Speaker 3: comes and picks me up at the airport in a
Speaker 3: special car to take me to ESPN for my interview,
Speaker 3: And right before he drops me off, he says, I
Speaker 3: just dropped off one of my favorite people of all
Speaker 3: time here, Robin Roberts. So dope be me not knowing
Speaker 3: anything better than baseball. I said, oh, Robin Roberts. He
Speaker 3: was great, one of the whiz kids, away over two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty games, very durable, Philadelphia Phillies, all this stuff.
Speaker 3: And after I explain who Robin Roberts is, he looks
Speaker 3: at me. He turns around. He's an older guy. He
Speaker 3: turns around, looks at me, and he goes, who are
Speaker 3: you talking about. I said, I'm talking about Robin Roberts,
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame pitcher, And he said, no, I'm
Speaker 3: talking about the real Robin Roberts, who, of course was
Speaker 3: the famous, still famous broadcaster, one of the great people
Speaker 3: in our industry. Robin Roberts, Good Morning America, ESPN. Everything
Speaker 3: else but being the one track mind that I have
Speaker 3: if someone mentioned Robin Roberts, it was all baseball, at
Speaker 3: least it was for me, all right, Jeff. Two thousand
Speaker 3: and two, on this date, they played the All Star
Speaker 3: Game in Milwaukee and it was a tie game, which
Speaker 3: led to of course, having to make the All Star
Speaker 3: Game more important. The winner of the All Star Game
Speaker 3: would get home field advantage in the World Series, which
Speaker 3: I always thought was a bad idea. You were at
Speaker 3: that game. You went to that game in Milwaukee in
Speaker 3: two thousand and two, remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was eight years old at the time, and
Speaker 1: it was like the latest I was ever allowed to
Speaker 1: stay up because the game wouldn't end, and if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, you had to do baseball tonight afterwards, so
Speaker 1: we really couldn't leave until you were done. Now we
Speaker 1: were with mom, obviously, and so you were getting ready
Speaker 1: to work, but we all wanted to walk back together.
Speaker 1: We had gone to a number of All Star games together,
Speaker 1: so this was kind of the tradition. We go on
Speaker 1: set with you and Krucky or Harold or or you
Speaker 1: know whoever was doing the game with you, Carl Ravich,
Speaker 1: and then we'd all leave together.
Speaker 2: But we waited and we waited, and we waited, and
Speaker 2: it ended in a tie.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well it was an eleven inning game and there
Speaker 3: was they ran out of pictures, so they they had
Speaker 3: to do what they had to do, ok, Jeff. Twenty eleven,
Speaker 3: on this date, Derek Jeter went five for five and
Speaker 3: got hit number three thousand. Pretty cool to do it
Speaker 3: in a five for five game. And last one, Jeff,
Speaker 3: let's see if you can pick up on this. On
Speaker 3: this state in twenty thirteen, Alex Rios went six for six.
Speaker 2: That's my that's my father in law's name.
Speaker 3: Ah, well, you need to explain that your wife, Emily Rios,
Speaker 3: her dad's name is Alex. That we just saw recently
Speaker 3: at your house. And I always got a kick out
Speaker 3: of the fact that your father in law is the
Speaker 3: same name of the guy who played for the White
Speaker 3: Sox and the Blue Jays. And on this date Alex
Speaker 3: Rios went six for six.
Speaker 1: I'll have to shoot him at that for a shout out.
Speaker 1: He's gonna love the shout out. He's gonna love the
Speaker 1: shout out. Alpha best is on. Is this a great
Speaker 1: game or what? So we're going through the alphabet. We're
Speaker 1: on letter P. Give me the best last name starting
Speaker 1: with a P. We'll start with batter dad, right.
Speaker 3: Well, we have a lot of good ones. I mean
Speaker 3: Mike Piazza, Kirby Puckett, Tony Prez, several others, but Albert
Speaker 3: pooh Hols is the greatest position player ever whose last
Speaker 3: name starts with the P. He won three MVPs, hit
Speaker 3: seven hundred and three homers, twenty two hundred and eighteen.
Speaker 3: RBIs had an ops of nine to eighteen. When you
Speaker 3: look at those first ten years, Jeff, you could make
Speaker 3: a case he had the greatest first ten years of
Speaker 3: anyone in Major League history. When you look at all
Speaker 3: time first baseman, Luke Garrig has to be first, but
Speaker 3: Albert pool Holes, Jimmy Fox, you know, one of those
Speaker 3: is the second greatest first baseman of all time. You know,
Speaker 3: he kind of came out of nowhere. And that spring
Speaker 3: of two thousand and one when he won Rookie of
Speaker 3: the Year, Tony the RUSSA told me. He said, I
Speaker 3: he wasn't supposed to make the team, but every time
Speaker 3: I put him in the line, he did something really
Speaker 3: well and that's how he made the club. And a
Speaker 3: couple of years later I asked Tony, I said, tell
Speaker 3: me something, tell me Albert Poolhole story that maybe I
Speaker 3: don't know. And he goes, We're playing an intersquad game
Speaker 3: in spring training, and Albert is the guy jumping off
Speaker 3: the bench and grabbing the fence in front of the dugout,
Speaker 3: yelling at his guy to score from second on a single.
Speaker 3: That's how much Albert poolhous like.
Speaker 2: A simulated game.
Speaker 3: Yes, intersquad game, no fans in the fans, not playing
Speaker 3: another team. That's what Tony told me. That's how interested
Speaker 3: Albert Poolholes was in being great all the time. So
Speaker 3: I have great confidence he's the greatest number P letter
Speaker 3: P of all time. Pitcher was a lot harder. Jeff
Speaker 3: was a lot harder. Now I'm going to tell you
Speaker 3: who I didn't go with, Gaylord Perry, who, by the way,
Speaker 3: had more wins in the sixties and seventies combined than
Speaker 3: any pitcher in baseball. You can win some money betting
Speaker 3: on that one. Most wins in the sixties and seventies combined.
Speaker 3: Gaylord Perry is the answer. Won two Cy youngs, had
Speaker 3: fifty three shutouts and won three hundred and fourteen games.
Speaker 3: So he's he was a very close. He was very
Speaker 3: close in this and the other one, and I didn't
Speaker 3: know what to do with him. Jeff was Satchel Paige.
Speaker 3: I mean, Satchel Paige is one of the greatest pitchers
Speaker 3: of all time. I'm not sure there's a way around that.
Speaker 3: Negro League all timer, but didn't get a chance to
Speaker 3: pitching the big leagues until age forty two and did
Speaker 3: throw three scoreless innings Jeff in a major league game
Speaker 3: at age fifty nine. Wow, So it's almost impossible not
Speaker 3: to mention Satchel Paige here, I'm mentioning him, but I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna go with Jim Palmer. I mean Jim Palmer,
Speaker 3: not because he's been a guest on the show a
Speaker 3: couple times, but Jim Palmer won three cy youngs. Jeff,
Speaker 3: he won a World Series game in three different decades.
Speaker 3: No one's ever done that before. Two point eight six
Speaker 3: year fifty three shutouts, by the way, exactly as many
Speaker 3: shutouts fifty three as Gaylord Perry. He's the greatest pitcher
Speaker 3: in Oriole's history, and you could at least make an
Speaker 3: outside case he's the greatest player in Orioles history because
Speaker 3: the Oriole's greatness stemmed from nineteen sixty six through nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty three. And what is the common denominator of all
Speaker 3: those years.
Speaker 2: Jeff sixty six to eighty three. Jim Palmer.
Speaker 3: Jim Palmer. He was on the team for yeah, all
Speaker 3: those years of greatness. Nobody else was just him. So
Speaker 3: Jim Palmer is my greatest pitcher whose last name starts
Speaker 3: with a peep, and with all you know, with all
Speaker 3: due respect to Gaylord Perry, who was a vastly underrated pitcher,
Speaker 3: and Satchel Page, who I'm just not still not sure
Speaker 3: what to do with him since he god didn't get
Speaker 3: to the big leagues, not his fault until he was
Speaker 3: forty two.
Speaker 1: Dad, Is this why you asked me for Jim Palmer's
Speaker 1: email earlier today? You wanted to let him know you
Speaker 1: chose him as the alphabet, Hey, Jim.
Speaker 3: Just want to let you know, all right, all right, no.
Speaker 2: On the show.
Speaker 1: We have three cards in my basement. A little bit
Speaker 1: different here, Dad. Now I'm just gonna pull again. I'm
Speaker 1: just pulling from this random box two thousand and one
Speaker 1: major League Baseball cards.
Speaker 2: I know that's really pigeonholing us.
Speaker 1: Year era, but let's just I'm just gonna pull a card, Dad.
Speaker 2: Let's see what we've.
Speaker 1: Got here, all right, Benito Santiago, We've got a Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Red's card.
Speaker 3: Benito Santiago had a hitting streak in the thirties. I
Speaker 3: think I'm guessing it was thirty or thirty one straight games,
Speaker 3: which is pretty hard to do for a catcher. But
Speaker 3: he had one of the great throwing arms I've ever seen,
Speaker 3: Jeff and I think he's the first catcher that I
Speaker 3: ever saw who would row from his knees to second
Speaker 3: base on a stolen base. You know, everyone else pops up, yes, rows,
Speaker 3: Sometimes in an emergency, you have to throw from your knees.
Speaker 3: Benito Santiago threw from his knees a whole bunch of times,
Speaker 3: and it was just breathtaking to watch someone not even
Speaker 3: get out of the crowd, stay on his knees and
Speaker 3: throw a strike to Segabase. One of the great throwing
Speaker 3: arms and one of the great defensive catchers I've ever seen,
Speaker 3: and I repeat, he could hit too well.
Speaker 1: Next card, Dad, we have Eric Davis. This was towards
Speaker 1: the end of his career here as a cardinal. So
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think of any Eric Davis
Speaker 1: stories you can share.
Speaker 3: Eric Davis was one of the great athletes ever to
Speaker 3: play in the major leagues. And because you're ambushing me
Speaker 3: with these names, I'm not going to have the exact numbers.
Speaker 3: But you know, Eric Davis was, you know, hitting thirty
Speaker 3: homers and stealing fifty bases like a long time ago,
Speaker 3: and he did it play a spectacular center field for
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Reds. I mean, he took the game by storm.
Speaker 3: Of course, he played for the Reds for the nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety World Series championship team. Not too many athletes better
Speaker 3: than Eric Davis. And he was also a great basketball
Speaker 3: player in high school. I once asked him, could you
Speaker 3: dunk it anyway that you liked? And he just looked
Speaker 3: at me like what an insult? Yes I could, and
Speaker 3: this is great, Jeff. To personalize this a little bit
Speaker 3: is he was in DC once doing some sort of
Speaker 3: an event, I'm not sure what it was, and he
Speaker 3: needed to hit somewhere. So Ross Natotli, our dear friend,
Speaker 3: the baseball coach at Catholic University for what the last
Speaker 3: forty years, ended up inviting Eric Davis over to Catholic
Speaker 3: University and Ross Natoli one of the great VP pitchers
Speaker 3: of all time through batting practice to Eric Davis so
Speaker 3: he could stay sharp, like during a winter trip or
Speaker 3: something like that. And I think I think Eric Davis
Speaker 3: hit a ball so hard it like went through the
Speaker 3: protective screen and hit Ross totally, like in the hell way.
Speaker 3: It took him aback and he had to stop for
Speaker 3: a moment. But I think I have that story right,
Speaker 3: that Eric Davis hit off of our dear friend Ross
Speaker 3: to totally in a batting practice offseason session.
Speaker 2: All right, dad, I also have Randy Wolf here.
Speaker 1: Now, before you give me something on Randy Wolf, I
Speaker 1: want to read what it says in the back of
Speaker 1: his card.
Speaker 2: This is fascinating.
Speaker 1: He threw a no hitter in high school and another
Speaker 1: one at Pepperdine, and many believe it was only a
Speaker 1: matter of times Tilly did it in the majors.
Speaker 2: That's the first sentence.
Speaker 1: But the fun fact here is he threw a no
Speaker 1: hitter in high school and then the next outing he
Speaker 1: threw a perfect game.
Speaker 3: Wow. So back to back games, no hitter and then
Speaker 3: perfect game. No one's ever done that in the big league, no, right,
Speaker 3: Johnny vander Me of course, only pitcher in major League
Speaker 3: history to pitch a no hitter in back to back starts. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Randy Wolf was a really funny guy is a really
Speaker 3: funny guy. He was a very good hitting pitcher. I
Speaker 3: can't quote his hitting totals, but he was a good
Speaker 3: hitting pitcher. And he is the brother of Jim Wolf,
Speaker 3: who is a major league umpire, which I always thought
Speaker 3: was pretty cool. And again, people will check me on
Speaker 3: this because I don't know for sure. I don't think
Speaker 3: he was ever allowed to start a game as a
Speaker 3: pitcher in which his brother was the home plate umpire.
Speaker 3: I don't think that ever happened. Wow. I think major
Speaker 3: League Baseball looked at it and said, all right, that's
Speaker 3: that's too much of a conflict of interest here. We're
Speaker 3: not going to allow that to happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, that makes sense, and I mean how funny
Speaker 2: was that?
Speaker 1: Probably his kids calling balls and strikes for your brother
Speaker 1: and instead of you know, hitting against your brother or
Speaker 1: batting against your pitcher brother, you're yelling at him.
Speaker 3: No, that was outside, No, that was right there, that
Speaker 3: was over the plate.
Speaker 1: That's funny, Dad, I've never heard he didn't make that connection.
Speaker 2: I love that. All right, Well.
Speaker 1: That's three cards in my basement, and now Dad, we
Speaker 1: wrap it up with a team Tim.
Speaker 2: What you got?
Speaker 3: Well? Bob J. Brown, one of our really good listeners
Speaker 3: and contributors, emailed and said, Tim, you need to do
Speaker 3: a team Tim, based on the numbers of each position.
Speaker 3: So of course, when you're keeping score, the pitcher is
Speaker 3: number one, catchers number two, first base, so forth and
Speaker 3: so on. So I must say, I really got a
Speaker 3: kick out of this. This was not easy to do.
Speaker 3: So we're going to start at catcher, so I need
Speaker 3: to find the best catcher ever to wear numbers two too.
Speaker 3: It was right. It was not easy, you know. Dick
Speaker 3: Deets was a famous catcher because he was involved in
Speaker 3: the Don Drysdale game in the sixties. Not the point
Speaker 3: Mackie Sasser, who developed a throwing issue. He wore number
Speaker 3: two and I really fudged this. But Dan Lombardi is
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame catcher and in nineteen thirty six,
Speaker 3: thirty seven he wore number two. Now, I never allow
Speaker 3: anyone on one of these lists if he only wore
Speaker 3: a number for a couple of years, but it was
Speaker 3: kind of in the prime of his career. He is
Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer he wore I believe, number thirty
Speaker 3: five for most of his career after that, so I
Speaker 3: fudged it at the beginning and picked Ernie Lombardi. Number
Speaker 3: two is our catcher. Number three at first base is
Speaker 3: Jimmy Fox. I thought Harmon Killerbrew was going to be
Speaker 3: the runaway winner. Then I recognized, oh yeah, Jimmy Fox
Speaker 3: wore three, and he played more first base than than
Speaker 3: killer Brew did because killer Brew also played a lot
Speaker 3: of third base second base. I had a lot of trouble, Jeff.
Speaker 3: I thought just instinctively to go with Bobby Gritch because
Speaker 3: he was a very underrated second baseman, a borderline Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer. But then there's Paul Molader, who played seven
Speaker 3: years at second base, or parts of most of seven
Speaker 3: years a second. Gritch played more than that, and you know,
Speaker 3: ka tell Marte Guys is climbing the list at number
Speaker 3: four also. But I'm gonna go with Bobby Gritch because
Speaker 3: I think he's a very underrated player, and I don't
Speaker 3: think mallrs feelings will be hurt. He's already in the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. You know, he played the outfield, he
Speaker 3: played shortstop, he played mostly third, he played first base,
Speaker 3: so I couldn't rightfully put him at second base for
Speaker 3: number four because he was more of a third baseman
Speaker 3: than he was a second base And that makes.
Speaker 2: Sense absolutely, Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's going to be a challenge on every position, Dad,
Speaker 1: so I already commend you for taking it this far.
Speaker 2: It's not easy, not easy.
Speaker 3: So number five and talk about not being easy, Jeff
Speaker 3: number five at third base? See how I breathed heavily
Speaker 3: and deep sigh. Here, I'm going with George Brett. George
Speaker 3: Brett for me, is the third greatest third baseman of
Speaker 3: all time for me, after Mike Schmidt and Eddie Matthews.
Speaker 3: So this leaves Brooks rock Ubinson, one of my childhood
Speaker 3: idols off and maybe the kindest man I've ever seen
Speaker 3: wear a major league uniform and the greatest defensive third
Speaker 3: basement of all time. But I have to pick between
Speaker 3: George Brett and Brooks Robinson. Boy, was this hard. I'm
Speaker 3: going to go with George Brett. And have I lost
Speaker 3: all my friends in Baltimore over this job?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, you do have a lot of
Speaker 1: Baltimore friends, so that can be a little bit tough.
Speaker 1: But no, I think objectively, that is the right call.
Speaker 1: It's a hard one to make, but I think it's
Speaker 1: the right.
Speaker 3: Call, right. And we were just talking about Tyler Tolbert,
Speaker 3: who had two straight five hit games, which is only
Speaker 3: the third player ever to do that. George Brett is
Speaker 3: still the only player to have six consecutive three hit games,
Speaker 3: six in a row. That's how great George Brett was
Speaker 3: in his prime. Shortstop is Rico Petrocelli. I grew up
Speaker 3: watching him from a distance when he played for the
Speaker 3: Red Sox mostly in the sixties. In the seventies, Rico
Speaker 3: Petrocelli had a forty home run season and he's one
Speaker 3: of six players Jeff, I believe who hit forty or
Speaker 3: more homers with ten or more letters in their last name.
Speaker 3: So that's Carly Yustremsky, Rico Petrocelli, Roy Campanella, Curtis Granderson,
Speaker 3: Ted Klezuski, and Edwin and Carnaciona. I hope I haven't
Speaker 3: missed anyone, so that I mean, it's really not that important, Jeff,
Speaker 3: to have ten letters in your last day. But these
Speaker 3: are the questions that I get asked, Jeff when I
Speaker 3: when I go out and meet people, people at a
Speaker 3: baseball game will say ask me questions like this, and
Speaker 3: of course I'm I got to get them all right,
Speaker 3: and I don't often do that, but so that's Rinco.
Speaker 3: Petricelli was a really good hitter and moved to third
Speaker 3: base later in his career, but did enough as a
Speaker 3: shortstop to be the greatest number six. To play short
Speaker 3: stop outfield was very difficult, Jeff finding a left fielder,
Speaker 3: a left fielder to wear number seven. So, Jeff, this
Speaker 3: was the tricky part of it, Bob J. Brown is
Speaker 3: finding someone who wore number seven, who also played left
Speaker 3: field and was really good, but his primary years were
Speaker 3: in left field. Like Reggie Smith is one of the
Speaker 3: great number sevens of all time, but he was not
Speaker 3: a left fielder. For the majority of time that he
Speaker 3: wore number seven, he was mostly a center fielder, and
Speaker 3: then he switched to number eight. So I got very
Speaker 3: confused with what to do with Reggie Smith. But there
Speaker 3: has to be a shout out here. I'm going with
Speaker 3: Joe Medwick, Ducky Medwick, who was the national last National
Speaker 3: leaguer to win the Triple Crown. He's my left fielder.
Speaker 3: He wore number seven, a center fielder Jeff was again
Speaker 3: really difficult because there were a lot of options but
Speaker 3: no absolute slam dunk options. But I went with Shane Victorino,
Speaker 3: former Philly, the Fly in Hawaiian. What do you think
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 1: I love him and former Philly and current Savannah Banana.
Speaker 1: I meant not on the team full time, but he's
Speaker 1: made quite a few appearances and loved the crowds love him.
Speaker 2: He's great.
Speaker 3: It's great, all right, Rachfield was I thought it was
Speaker 3: a slam dunk with Roger Marris, and I'm gonna stay
Speaker 3: with Roger Marris because he won the MVP in nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty and nineteen sixty one. Of course, he broke bay
Speaker 3: Brew's home run record in nineteen sixty one when he
Speaker 3: hit home run number sixty one on the final day
Speaker 3: of the season. He was a widely underrated defensive outfielder,
Speaker 3: one of the great teammates you'll ever see, so I'm
Speaker 3: gonna stick with him. Although Reggie Jackson wore number nine
Speaker 3: in those great years with the Oakland A's and one
Speaker 3: year with the Orioles, So anyone who picks Reggie Jackson,
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. But Reggie, remember Jeff when he
Speaker 3: went to the Yankees and did some amazing things there,
Speaker 3: and when he went to the Angels, he wore number
Speaker 3: forty four. Marris's primary number for his entire career was
Speaker 3: not you think I did the right thing there.
Speaker 2: I think he nailed it down absolutely okay.
Speaker 3: And the last one was the hardest one, because I
Speaker 3: need to find a pitcher who wears number one. Now.
Speaker 3: I know Matt Young in nineteen ninety war number one.
Speaker 3: It just looks so weird on the back of a
Speaker 3: picture on his uniform to see the number one. But
Speaker 3: Mackenzie Gore now with the Rangers, formerly with the Nationals,
Speaker 3: He's had a pretty nice career. He's about five six
Speaker 3: years in now, and so I'm going with Mackenzie Gore
Speaker 3: as my number one as a pitcher.
Speaker 1: Dad, I just did a quick google because I wanted
Speaker 1: to try to pull a fast one and have some
Speaker 1: fun with this. But I googled managers who wore numbers zero.
Speaker 1: I know that you don't score a manager. A manager's
Speaker 1: not considered zero or ten or what. It really doesn't matter, right,
Speaker 1: But no manager has ever worn zero in the history
Speaker 1: of baseball, at least according to a very quick google.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but that's what came up there.
Speaker 1: So my attempt at at helping you end team Tim
Speaker 1: did not work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wasn't sure what to do with zero.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should make the DH zero, but I didn't
Speaker 3: feel right doing that. If we did a zero, I
Speaker 3: think it would have to be Al Oliver who wore
Speaker 3: zero for a good portion of his career, or number
Speaker 3: sixteen with the Pirates. But man, he was a good hitter.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so that's it. That was a tough one
Speaker 3: by Bob J. Brown. Thank you for I hope I
Speaker 3: did you proud on this. That was not easy to do.
Speaker 1: Ironhill Brewery Monday and Tuesday at noon in Philadelphia. If
Speaker 1: you are in town for the All Star Game, we
Speaker 1: want to see you. If you happen to be living
Speaker 1: in the area, bring the family. It's going to be
Speaker 1: a great time. We cannot wait to see you there. Dad,
Speaker 1: I'll see you in person. I got some surprises for
Speaker 1: you when you get here. So we can outwait. Pop
Speaker 1: off to do this in person together for two episodes
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be special.
Speaker 3: Well. Love the All Star Game, Jeff, but love it
Speaker 3: even more this year because it's being played in Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: so I get to see McKinley Hope, I get to
Speaker 3: see body Bell, and I get to see you and
Speaker 3: Emily and Nana, so it'll be great.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening and watching it. As always,
Speaker 1: thanks for being a part of our family.