Do the Phillies need a lockdown reliever or a bat?
The Phillies enjoyed a crazy comeback victory on Tuesday night in Washington, but we’re here to talk trades.
What trades should the Phillies make before the Aug. 3 trade deadline? A reliable bullpen arm would be huge for this team. But so would a bat. The problem is: can the Phillies do both? Can they possibly acquire an impact reliever and an impact bat with a farm system that ranks among the bottom 10 in Major League Baseball?
Aroldis Chapman, Byron Buxton, Seiya Suzuki, Tarik Skubal, Taylor Ward, Jo Addell, Jeremy Pena and more!
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Speaker 1: Alright, this is Chase that least, this is the Phillies show. Hey, Now,
Speaker 1: Phillies big, big comeback win on Tuesday night at Nationals Park,
Speaker 1: eight runs with two outs. Jim Rubin, I had this
Speaker 1: whole show plan. We were going to talk trade possibilities
Speaker 1: for the Phillies, you know, they need to make some moves,
Speaker 1: but I feel like we have to talk about this
Speaker 1: crazy first pitch for a comeback when it is time
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Speaker 1: So the Phillies. In case you missed it, Casey turned
Speaker 1: off about me energy. Yeah, in Casey turned off the TV,
Speaker 1: and you might have because the Phillies took a eight
Speaker 1: six six' five. Lead in the top of the eighth.
Speaker 1: Inning Ryan kirkering comes. In he's been pitching great for.
Speaker 1: Weeks he's been pitching great for. Weeks he gives up.
Speaker 1: Three now they're down eight to. Six click click. CLICK
Speaker 1: a lot of people turn off the, game Right PHILLIES
Speaker 1: A Mundo sosa strikes out. Swinging Justin crawford strikes out.
Speaker 1: Looking Trey turners down to his last strike two to
Speaker 1: two pitch Singles brandon marsh two run homer and ties,
Speaker 1: It Bryce harper, Singles Derek hill pinch hits because They
Speaker 1: philly has lost THE dh he, singles and Then bryce
Speaker 1: And stott does His carlton fisk lean shot down the
Speaker 1: right field line as he hits a three run. Homer
Speaker 1: it makes it eleven. Eight it goes on from. THERE
Speaker 1: i Think tom McCarthy said after the game was the
Speaker 1: first time In phillies' history The phillies have scored scored
Speaker 1: eight runs with two outs in the ninth inning before an. Enfranchise.
Speaker 1: History just absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2: WIN i mean they go on WITH jt walks When
Speaker 2: conus gets a, knock so sud doubles up with the
Speaker 2: centerfield wall or.
Speaker 3: Whatever, yeah, yeah something like.
Speaker 2: That then another, walk then another, single and THEN i
Speaker 2: mean it's. Insane fourteen freaking runs and eight of them
Speaker 2: we're were two.
Speaker 3: Outs, yeah it never.
Speaker 1: Happens that never. Happens that Was that was.
Speaker 4: Wild Jem, oh it was a lot of fun to.
Speaker 4: Watch i'll tell you. What, MARSH i had a feeling
Speaker 4: when he came up because he's been so. Hot this
Speaker 4: seems Like Brandon marsh's, year AND i had a feeling
Speaker 4: he was going to do. Something and the way he
Speaker 4: used the bat head on that. Ball it jumped off
Speaker 4: his bat head like you, know a golf ball off a.
Speaker 4: Driver it just, boom it. Jumped and So so too
Speaker 4: hit two balls tonight where he really used the bath
Speaker 4: head like a. WEAPON i just love it when guys do.
Speaker 4: That and those were three just great swings And trey
Speaker 4: that was a heck of a heck of a, moment
Speaker 4: heck of. It that BAD jt had a big hit
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 2: Too and then stop the gas loaded bases, loaded two,
Speaker 2: outs two.
Speaker 4: Strikes, yeah me, too, DOWN i mean he was you,
Speaker 4: know he hits that ball in the. Seats just game
Speaker 4: of inchest you, know Just mitch just getting caught and
Speaker 4: Then woods just misses making that. Catch, so you, know
Speaker 4: a couple of, Guys trey AND jt come up, with you,
Speaker 4: know very big, hits you, know in a year when
Speaker 4: you know they've been criticized a lot for not getting
Speaker 4: enough big. Hits but this is two games now in
Speaker 4: a in a handful of days where they've had seventeen
Speaker 4: hits in each, game a lot of late, offense and you,
Speaker 4: know not to be, negative But lozardo gives up. Five
Speaker 4: he's such a different picture with men on, base they
Speaker 4: didn't make a couple of plays behind him all of a,
Speaker 4: sudden this's men on. Base all of a, sudden they're
Speaker 4: crossing home. Plate but the team showed real toughness coming
Speaker 4: back and getting that victory Without schwarber in the. Lineup
Speaker 4: very very good. Entertaining When i'm sure they are buoyant
Speaker 4: in that clubhosts.
Speaker 2: You, no that's pretty, happy and it did cover up
Speaker 2: some real flaws early in that. Game you kind of
Speaker 2: talked about a little, Bit. Jim the defensive effort By Trey.
Speaker 2: Turner not, great couple of plays that probably should have been,
Speaker 2: made not easy, plays but plays that should be made
Speaker 2: by a championship caliber.
Speaker 3: Shortstop and those are sort.
Speaker 2: Of the some of the issues that become of concern
Speaker 2: because that makes that inning snowball For.
Speaker 3: Lozardo lozardo needs people to make plays for.
Speaker 2: Him every pitcher needs to make plays for, him needs
Speaker 2: players to make plays for, him because he has struggled
Speaker 2: with men on base and pitching over some of those.
Speaker 3: Mistakes AND i think that that's something.
Speaker 2: That's going to have to come with a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Maturity he's going to have to work through. That BECAUSE i,
Speaker 2: remember like there was a time When Cole hamil's every
Speaker 2: once in a while there was like a cheap. Hit
Speaker 2: all of a, sudden he get a little he would
Speaker 2: get a little upset about, that and all of a,
Speaker 2: sudden boom a home, run and you're like, going oh,
Speaker 2: man but that with, maturity he got over that and
Speaker 2: started pitching over that.
Speaker 3: And went to the mantra of the Old Roy.
Speaker 2: Halliday, OKAY i got to execute my next pitch instead
Speaker 2: of worrying what just. Happened so hopefully That lozarda can
Speaker 2: get over, that and Hopefully Trey turner can start playing
Speaker 2: a little bit better.
Speaker 3: Defense you're.
Speaker 4: RIGHT i, mean it's not the errors that kill, you
Speaker 4: it's the plays that should be made that are. Scored
Speaker 4: base hits that sharp teams make they kill. You especially With,
Speaker 4: lolzardo he's like a different guy with men on. BASE
Speaker 4: i don't. Know his sweeper was magnificent. Tonight he had
Speaker 4: a what do you? Have a dozen? Strikeouts but he
Speaker 4: Don't he JUST i don't know if he pitches tight
Speaker 4: with men on. Base but there's something just a little bit,
Speaker 4: different no. Doubt BUT i feel like we're raining on
Speaker 4: this awesome win that was a, spectacular fun come back
Speaker 4: where you know a lot of guys with the game
Speaker 4: on the, line had their best at and most productive
Speaker 4: at bats of the.
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Speaker 1: went into the show planning to talk, trades but we
Speaker 1: had to talk about that comeback when that was absolutely.
Speaker 1: Insane but let's talk trades as of right. Now if
Speaker 1: you had to rank your order of what you would
Speaker 1: like to get done the, Most. Ruben you can only
Speaker 1: make one, Trade you can only fill one. Hole what's
Speaker 1: it gonna? Be is it gonna be a? Bat is
Speaker 1: it gonna be a? Starter is it gonna be another
Speaker 1: setup guy to help Out Juan duran in the late?
Speaker 2: Innings SO i have toiled with this in my mind
Speaker 2: so much IF i was sitting In Dave dombrowski.
Speaker 3: Seat so the goal here is to win A World, series, Right.
Speaker 2: So for you to win A World, series you gotta
Speaker 2: have at least two knockdown pitchers and probably. Three so
Speaker 2: they sort of have that In sanchez And wheeler and
Speaker 2: a half a one In lozardo as far as lockdown,
Speaker 2: right And lozardo's actually pitched well in the, playoffs so
Speaker 2: you gotta hope that he will.
Speaker 3: Step forward and do. That so you got to have three.
Speaker 2: Guys you also have to have a closer who can
Speaker 2: close out the, game and those are like a, must
Speaker 2: and you have that. Guy the bullpen piece is still
Speaker 2: a question, mark and this is WHERE i toil because
Speaker 2: you sort of have to have somebody other than the
Speaker 2: closer who can get really really important four.
Speaker 3: Or five outs in a game for.
Speaker 2: You and my toil is do they get the bat
Speaker 2: so that they can lengthen out their lineup or be more,
Speaker 2: fortified or do they get the bullpen piece that is
Speaker 2: going to hand the baseball To Juwan?
Speaker 3: Deron AND i have been up at night thinking about
Speaker 3: this on the.
Speaker 2: Daily what Would Dave dombrowski do IF i had one.
Speaker 3: Move to MAKE.
Speaker 2: Ww AND i, think AND i, think AND i THINK
Speaker 2: i would do the bullpen.
Speaker 1: Piece would you really?
Speaker 2: INTERESTING i THINK i would do the bullpen piece because
Speaker 2: at the end of the, day you hope you never
Speaker 2: know they've gone. Cold you hope that they get enough
Speaker 2: hot guys at the right time, offensively and then you
Speaker 2: got to shut down the.
Speaker 3: GAME i think about this a.
Speaker 2: Lot The phillies lost games in the last few years
Speaker 2: by not being able to get important outs late in the.
Speaker 2: Game and if they can get him and throw up
Speaker 2: zeros and they can get another lockdown.
Speaker 3: Guy maybe it's a rolled As, Chapman we've talked about him.
Speaker 3: Before maybe it's somebody like. That But i'm thinking about
Speaker 3: those big ass.
Speaker 2: Arms that can bring you and there they are the bullpen,
Speaker 2: Pieces so you are absolutely. Brilliant is Its? Chapman is
Speaker 2: It Pete fairbanks.
Speaker 3: Probably.
Speaker 2: Not he's probably not year you're not doing. Well but
Speaker 2: the Guy Rico garcia great, names these are. GREAT i,
Speaker 2: Mean Sansa, TELLA i just don't. KNOW i can't trust
Speaker 2: him because he's.
Speaker 3: Never really done it when it's really.
Speaker 2: Counted Eras chapman's my Guy's.
Speaker 4: YEAH i, MEAN i would love that. Idea and you've
Speaker 4: been talking about that for a couple of, months and
Speaker 4: that's a movie. Make to win The World, series they
Speaker 4: they they're gonna then they would have to score some
Speaker 4: runs and this offense would really have to continue to come.
Speaker 4: Around BUT i, mean you're. Right the last two, years
Speaker 4: the last three, years really they have blown games in that.
Speaker 4: Bullpen it's been it's been, understated under talked, about flaw
Speaker 4: in the last Three, octobers Twenty, kimberl.
Speaker 3: All those, guys they couldn't get it.
Speaker 4: Done and the numbers in the last Two october's six
Speaker 4: blown saves and a six over six era in the
Speaker 4: bullpen and both game ones the last two years and
Speaker 4: short series where game ones are, vital they lost leads
Speaker 4: in the. Bullpen you win those game ones and it
Speaker 4: might be. Different So i'm picking up and.
Speaker 2: Changed the whole makeup of the. Game even if they
Speaker 2: never scored, runs they still got to prevent.
Speaker 4: Them the series changed the series losing a uh for you,
Speaker 4: know blowing a lead, late Losing game one in a
Speaker 4: five game. Series and they have had bullpen issues a
Speaker 4: big time In OCTOBER'S i think people focus on the
Speaker 4: offense just, going you, know grinding to a, Halt but the.
Speaker 4: BULLPEN i, mean IF i could Get, CHAPMAN i mean
Speaker 4: that is really but you're gonna have to give up
Speaker 4: a haul to get that guy because that's a piece
Speaker 4: you get to win The World. Series and one THING
Speaker 4: i will, say you are right mentioning you need to
Speaker 4: get not just the final, three you need to get
Speaker 4: the final. Six And i've covered Two World series winners
Speaker 4: in my, career the ninety Six yankees and the Eight.
Speaker 4: Phillies every day there and ninety Six yankees had. It you,
Speaker 4: know that Was rivera's breakout, year getting the ball To.
Speaker 4: Wetland And Ryan, madson an, underrated humongous contributor on the Eight.
Speaker 4: Phillies he locked down that eighth, inning you, know start
Speaker 4: About august, first and got the ball To Brad. Lynch
Speaker 4: so these it's, very very valid for you to bring.
Speaker 2: Up, YEAH i, mean, look look how The houston beat
Speaker 2: them in The World. Series it was it twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Two they beat them.
Speaker 3: By having nasty pitching bro especially in the.
Speaker 2: Bullpen those guys were coming out firing and they got
Speaker 2: beat because of. It and The phillies beat themselves because
Speaker 2: they COULDN'T i know that they couldn't get hits on
Speaker 2: breaking pitches out of the, zone but they also had
Speaker 2: chances to hold down leads that they didn't hold down
Speaker 2: and that hurt them, really really.
Speaker 3: Badly so, anyway what would you guys?
Speaker 1: Do, well, well, YEAH i see the value in getting
Speaker 1: that bullpen arm't because the one THING i question is
Speaker 1: are you going to be able to find a true
Speaker 1: impact bat or are you going to get An Austin
Speaker 1: hayes type of. Guy And Harrison bader was super impactful last.
Speaker 1: Year of course we know, this he eight year with The,
Speaker 1: phillies kind of a career with The. Phillies half a
Speaker 1: season with The. Phillies BUT i just don't know what
Speaker 1: impact bat is out there that they could get that
Speaker 1: you would, say, again if this was an either or,
Speaker 1: proposition is there an impact bat out there that you
Speaker 1: could get where you. Go all, right we're gonna punt
Speaker 1: on the bullpen or maybe get a lesser maybe more
Speaker 1: like a sixth, inning seventh inning. GUY i don't know
Speaker 1: who's who's the impact?
Speaker 4: Bat you like the guy In, minnesota but he doesn't
Speaker 4: want to, Leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Minnesota Bryan byron Bucks then we'll see what maybe
Speaker 1: he changes to be.
Speaker 3: Able to stay on the.
Speaker 1: Field, yeah, yeah maybe it's done a.
Speaker 3: Pretty good job of.
Speaker 4: It the last two. Years have another big, YEAR i don't,
Speaker 4: know but they're just enough kind of in the wild card.
Speaker 4: Picture and he keeps saying he doesn't want to. Leave
Speaker 4: and we've been talking about him now for two and
Speaker 4: a half.
Speaker 3: Years long.
Speaker 1: Time and you know the thing too, IS i know
Speaker 1: he signed for a few more, years he's under, control
Speaker 1: but it's only fifteen million dollars a. Year that's a
Speaker 1: RISK i would. Take it's not like he's making thirty five.
Speaker 1: Million it's not like It's Mike trout. Money where you're
Speaker 1: sitting there going he's you, know he's blowing his hand
Speaker 1: me out every three. Months If Byron buckston goes, down
Speaker 1: you can kind of stomach that a little, bit knowing you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i would roll the dice on A Byron. Buckston
Speaker 1: but you.
Speaker 3: Want This chapman Or Byron. Buxton that would take.
Speaker 4: Question what's it take to get Eraldis? Chapman because THAT
Speaker 4: gm up there is gonna be under.
Speaker 3: A ton of.
Speaker 4: Pressures jobs on the. Line he's gonna be under a
Speaker 4: ton of pressure to get A humongo.
Speaker 3: Score but it's just a. Rental the other guy's not a, rental.
Speaker 4: Correct but he's got that's. Hip he's he's got to do,
Speaker 4: something get something good for for.
Speaker 3: Gonna get something. Good but he's not gonna get four.
Speaker 3: Players he's gonna get like.
Speaker 4: Two, okay that's about what The phillies.
Speaker 3: Have, well then then you know.
Speaker 2: That then it depends on whether they really want to
Speaker 2: win it or. Not and they want to sell their
Speaker 2: soul to win A World series possible.
Speaker 1: And that and these are the things because they don't
Speaker 1: have a super deep farm, system there's not a LOT
Speaker 1: i think that a lot of teams are going to
Speaker 1: be clamoring for that you could put, together, RIGHT i,
Speaker 1: mean is there just.
Speaker 2: Gauge wood into the back end of that bullpen and
Speaker 2: give it a.
Speaker 4: Whirl, WELL i would certainly be open to, that because
Speaker 4: this is happened. Before, yeah it has happened. Before tigers
Speaker 4: did it with That jackson job and well The angels
Speaker 4: with uh with k years and years Of David.
Speaker 1: David. Price he was that type of, guy you. Know,
Speaker 1: so but you look at The jimmy Mentioned Byron, buxton
Speaker 1: you're some outfielders that could be available to any of these.
Speaker 1: Guys wet your, Whistle you wet your whistle with any
Speaker 1: of These, yeah any?
Speaker 4: FLOWING a lot of them give you So zuki gives me.
Speaker 4: Flow he's got a new. TRADE i don't know if
Speaker 4: he can make it in this. Market adele love it with,
Speaker 4: this you know what he's. DOING i wouldn't Touch Duran Taylor.
Speaker 4: Wards you, know he's not hitting for a ton of.
Speaker 4: Power his name's out there every. YEAR i don't. Know
Speaker 4: he's one of those guys you talked About todd like, eh.
Speaker 1: You, know, yeah right. Exactly AND i Threw Jorge silaire
Speaker 1: on there only because he's a name that could be.
Speaker 1: AVAILABLE i, guess.
Speaker 3: Well what's interesting about what he's gonna be? Available there's
Speaker 3: no doubt about.
Speaker 5: That, Solaire Jora solaire is a guy that can and
Speaker 5: has gotten stupid hot and been an impact.
Speaker 3: Player he's been there and done. It not the, worst
Speaker 3: not the worst guy.
Speaker 4: Five years ago he had That.
Speaker 3: October, Okay i'm just, saying but he's been there and done.
Speaker 2: It he can get into on a role where he's
Speaker 2: just popping home runs left and, right especially against.
Speaker 3: Lefties who knows. Right i'm not it doesn't give me.
Speaker 3: Superflow but if they can't do.
Speaker 1: Anything, else maybe take a, ship take a shot, prospect
Speaker 1: take on the, glue Get, chapman gets, rolls roll the
Speaker 1: dice On. Celaire, OH i take.
Speaker 4: Who's your fifth starter? Here because they're gonna need something back.
Speaker 2: There they just got to get In jim that fifth
Speaker 2: starter just it needs to be somebody who can just
Speaker 2: get him. In it's going to be On alan, wronghell
Speaker 2: and he's going to be bulking up and he's going
Speaker 2: to be that guy for.
Speaker 1: Them do you think do you think there's a do
Speaker 1: you think they have to go out and get a
Speaker 1: fifth starter or that's WHAT i. MEAN i, MEAN i
Speaker 1: guess my point is you Have you're not gonna need
Speaker 1: that fifth starter in the. Postseason so this is a
Speaker 1: team as is right. NOW i think they can get
Speaker 1: into the. Postseason SO i would focus on a BAD
Speaker 1: i would focus on a. BULLPEN i would hope That
Speaker 1: ron Hell painter fixes something In TRIPLE. A he comes
Speaker 1: back and you kind of muscle your way, through you use.
Speaker 4: Openers i'm really glad to hear you both have them
Speaker 4: in the postseason. ALREADY i agree they're trending in the right,
Speaker 4: direction made a lot of progress, Here but they don't
Speaker 4: make it half season, left then a.
Speaker 3: Lot of things are going to.
Speaker 2: Happen heads are going to be, rolling and this is
Speaker 2: going to be a disastrous finish to the.
Speaker 3: Season, YEAH i, THINK.
Speaker 2: I, Think and it'll give be a disaster for the
Speaker 2: franchise because they've got tons of money to deal, with
Speaker 2: and it may be they may be doing.
Speaker 3: Something fairly drastic after this season if they don't make the.
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Speaker 1: say in the last show that unless they get like
Speaker 1: crippled by. INJURIES I i just got to think that
Speaker 1: they're going to get. THERE i. DO i, MEAN i
Speaker 1: just too much.
Speaker 2: Mediocrities team's got too much talent AND i think they got.
Speaker 3: Too many positive ingredients unless they.
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Speaker 1: the heap on, there AND i threw some more number
Speaker 1: five ish type guys that might be. Available you know you.
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Speaker 1: i don't think The phillies will.
Speaker 4: Do, that DON' i like the Two.
Speaker 1: Royals you like the Two royal.
Speaker 3: GUYS M so here's an Idea i'm.
Speaker 4: Looking if you're, Back i'm looking for back end depth
Speaker 4: and both those logo can be a swing. MAN i,
Speaker 4: MEAN i like both those. Guys i'm not saying they're
Speaker 4: going to be an on, them But i'm not playing
Speaker 4: at the top end for this.
Speaker 2: One here's an idea for you Get sandy Al contra
Speaker 2: and in the playoffs you put the powerful left Hander
Speaker 2: lozardo in the.
Speaker 3: Bullpen there's a way to work around. That let him
Speaker 3: be the setup.
Speaker 1: Guy, interesting.
Speaker 3: Creative, Yeah i'm a creative, Guy. JIM i learned From Pat.
Speaker 1: Gillick you gotta consider consider everything because.
Speaker 3: They well we.
Speaker 1: Didn't they talk about that last year at one. POINT i,
Speaker 1: mean you, know victim.
Speaker 3: Out of the bullpen at some, point Didn't, yeah they. Did,
Speaker 3: yeah of course it's his ass off.
Speaker 1: As he was. Great lizarda was great in the, postseason
Speaker 1: coming out of the Correct he looked like he enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Himself you know he. Was he was Very, yeah he.
Speaker 1: Was he was. Fun but, yeah you, know those those
Speaker 1: are some names in the. Rotation what About? Ruby you said,
Speaker 1: creative you like to be. Creative could you get creative
Speaker 1: and find it a bat in the infield that would
Speaker 1: help this team?
Speaker 4: OUT i see, one BUT i see, two but they
Speaker 4: would require, uh, WELL i see three but they would
Speaker 4: require position, changes and the Feel i'm getting From, dombrowski
Speaker 4: he's against a position change for this two three hundred million. Dollars,
Speaker 4: MEN i would consider, it BUT i.
Speaker 3: Don't think, YEAH i, mean certainly is something.
Speaker 2: Considered but then you're talking about Moving Alec bohm to
Speaker 2: where what position does he go?
Speaker 3: To does he go to?
Speaker 2: First and then and then Put Bryce harper? In, RIGHT
Speaker 2: i don't Think Bryce harper's gonna.
Speaker 4: Move it doesn't sound that.
Speaker 3: Way you can't play a different.
Speaker 4: Position, well you can.
Speaker 3: Move you can only play third and first if.
Speaker 4: You got pay you you. KNOW i Think Trey turner's
Speaker 4: does a chance somewhere in the next six. Years he
Speaker 4: might have to play the outfield and if you got
Speaker 4: payn you or you could put him at, short if
Speaker 4: you got A, rise you could Put stott at short
Speaker 4: and A rise at. Second BUT i. DON'T i just
Speaker 4: think these have they're too big of moves to be
Speaker 4: pulled off mid. SEASON i don't see The phillies doing.
Speaker 4: Those but they're to talk, about, RIGHT.
Speaker 3: I, Mean i'd love to, see you, know in a
Speaker 3: certain Situation.
Speaker 2: Turner moved to the outfield Or Bryce harper moved to
Speaker 2: the outfield to fortify that outfield and give it some
Speaker 2: more thump.
Speaker 3: To add a. Bat that's being.
Speaker 7: CREATIVE i just, Said, NO i just don't know it's
Speaker 7: GONNA i just don't know that it'll happen BECAUSE i
Speaker 7: just don't know that the players, Themselves turner and Or
Speaker 7: harper would feel comfortable.
Speaker 4: Moving, YEAH i agree with. YOU i don't Think. TURNER
Speaker 4: i think he definitely doesn't want to. Move bryce made
Speaker 4: that comment that he, would but it doesn't sound Like
Speaker 4: dave wants to do. That he talked about it the other, Day,
Speaker 4: dombroski he, said definitely doesn't want to. Move back and,
Speaker 4: forth back and. Forth, well he's not gonna play the
Speaker 4: rest of his career in the. Outfield he's gonna have
Speaker 4: to come back to first place eventually this. Year back and.
Speaker 4: Forth so it's it's fun to talk about on the
Speaker 4: on the Old Todd, pod BUT i see it kind
Speaker 4: of being being a dead.
Speaker 8: End.
Speaker 4: THOUGH i do think they're gonna have to visit at
Speaker 4: some Point tray turning the outfield at some point during this,
Speaker 4: contract and it might help them. OFFENSIVELY i think it will.
Speaker 3: TOO i think it might, TOO i really.
Speaker 1: Do, yeah that seems like more of an offseason. Move
Speaker 1: it is fun to talk. About but for both of those,
Speaker 1: GUYS i, MEAN i mean by, GREAT i don't Think
Speaker 1: harper is moving off of first. BASE i think.
Speaker 2: It's very different to have a position player move position
Speaker 2: than have a, picture for, instance going to the rotation
Speaker 2: or be slid from the rotation to the.
Speaker 3: Bullback it's a totally different.
Speaker 1: Gig, yeah so they got to they got At they
Speaker 1: got a lot of interesting decisions to. MAKE i, mean
Speaker 1: what about the fact rubn that you're not dealing with
Speaker 1: a particularly farm strong farm. System how challenging is that
Speaker 1: for an organization to try to put something.
Speaker 2: Together, well the depth of it is pretty light that
Speaker 2: that that's been document. It they have some players probably
Speaker 2: more closer down, below and then you know that's not
Speaker 2: that appealing because you just don't know whether prospects will
Speaker 2: ever get. There they're, capital but there doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: they're going to be effective down the. ROAD i think
Speaker 2: their biggest asset is going to be money BECAUSE i
Speaker 2: think at the end of the, day even though they
Speaker 2: may be quote unquote losing, money the franchise value is
Speaker 2: pretty high, still so there is they still have the
Speaker 2: ABILITY i believe to be flexible dollars and cents, wise
Speaker 2: AND i think that that's going to be their, strength
Speaker 2: that they may be able to take on a full
Speaker 2: contract as opposed to giving up. Talent AND i think
Speaker 2: that that's the route there are going to end up
Speaker 2: having to take just because they don't have a lot,
Speaker 2: of you, know capital as far as talent is, concerned
Speaker 2: to give.
Speaker 4: Up speaking of franchise, value what are they worth? Now
Speaker 4: The padre is getting almost four, billion.
Speaker 2: Yeah and and The phillies were valued By FORBES i
Speaker 2: think close to three or four hundred million. More so
Speaker 2: you're looking at a franchise value of somewhere between four
Speaker 2: and four five for The fight And.
Speaker 4: Phils, yeah especially with The padres going for like, FOUR
Speaker 4: i think they're that's really going to help their franchise,
Speaker 4: value no.
Speaker 3: Doubt.
Speaker 4: Yeah so basically we got to figure Out Chapman buxton and,
Speaker 4: uh why don't we Go Michael walker depth piece and
Speaker 4: the rotation depth.
Speaker 1: Piece just throwing a little depth, piece a Little Michael waker for.
Speaker 4: You, YEAH i gotta have a depth piece out. There
Speaker 4: i'm not worried About i'm worried about the final half
Speaker 4: of the second half of the season and their depth
Speaker 4: in their starting.
Speaker 3: Rotation that's Where Andrew painter's resurgence becomes almost.
Speaker 4: Essential VITAL i agree for the long, end short, term
Speaker 4: short and long. Term you got.
Speaker 1: It that would solve a lot of. Problems you, know
Speaker 1: they would solve a lot of. Problems if you, Know
Speaker 1: keller would come back at some point and throw the, ball,
Speaker 1: well it would be. Great if Josel varado would figure out.
Speaker 3: Something it would be even better If turner starts to swing.
Speaker 2: It he got a couple of big hits today after struggling,
Speaker 2: early but got some big hits.
Speaker 3: Late maybe that gets him jump. Started who.
Speaker 1: Knows AND i know people hate to hear, that but
Speaker 1: we said this all last. Season they're going to go
Speaker 1: as far as the big boys. Go you, know If
Speaker 1: Trey turner is hitting two twenty with a six hundred
Speaker 1: ohps through the end of the season and he hits
Speaker 1: like that in the, postseason it's gonna be really tough
Speaker 1: for The phillies to win The World. Series they need
Speaker 1: to get him back to.
Speaker 8: Form so and by the same if he does in
Speaker 8: his last month of the season hit three point fifty
Speaker 8: and with a nine hundred ops then they.
Speaker 3: Can win The World. Series and he has done that in.
Speaker 4: Stretches, yes it only has to do that In, october In.
Speaker 4: September that's. Great everybody just has to play all world In.
Speaker 4: October you, Know i've seen teams The cardinals and six
Speaker 4: didn't they have Eighty, yeah.
Speaker 3: The cardinals in twenty.
Speaker 4: ELEVEN i was going to bring that, Out. Reuben we were,
Speaker 4: Right we were right there with. You we wrote a
Speaker 4: book about that, team and, yeah and cost us a
Speaker 4: lot of.
Speaker 1: MONEY i still think about. That you AND i would
Speaker 1: be sitting we all three of us would be sitting
Speaker 1: on a beach.
Speaker 3: Somewhere that's, Right.
Speaker 1: Jim AND i from our book, Sales, jim that was
Speaker 1: a sad.
Speaker 4: Day and like the publishers keeping in touch with us
Speaker 4: all season, long All september, again all these calls are all,
Speaker 4: excited and then, uh you guys lose on That friday,
Speaker 4: Night october, seventh twenty, eleven not THAT i remember it,
Speaker 4: well and they stopped calling.
Speaker 3: Us, WELL i ruined, you, Guys that ruined.
Speaker 1: You the plan was it was going to be a
Speaker 1: hardcover book with color photos. Inside They we're gonna be,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna run ad we're gonna put ads on
Speaker 1: the Broad street line going down to.
Speaker 4: The ballpark With christmas Release.
Speaker 1: Christmas, yeah we're not going to Do. Christmas and then
Speaker 1: they called a couple of weeks, later we're not going
Speaker 1: to do the marketing. Campaign and then they.
Speaker 9: Called a couple of weeks, ago we're just going to
Speaker 9: go straight to, paperback which is like straight to video
Speaker 9: if you're doing a. Movie you know WHAT i, Mean
Speaker 9: you know WHAT i mean back in the, day back
Speaker 9: in the, day if you went straight TO, vhs that
Speaker 9: means that that that that movie was not going to
Speaker 9: make any money in a.
Speaker 1: Movie there they, go we're gonna go straight to, paperback
Speaker 1: and we're like, okay and then they call us, back
Speaker 1: go we're not gonna do color photos. Anymore we're gonna
Speaker 1: do black and white. Photos i'm like a lot of.
Speaker 3: Lives did they even have photos in the? BOOK i
Speaker 3: don't even know if they put photos in the book
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 4: End, No but the funniest part of the, BOOK i
Speaker 4: still think the funniest part of the. Book we referred
Speaker 4: To Ben francisco once and we used his Nickname Benny.
Speaker 4: Fresh and in the, index there's an index Entry Fresh Comma, benny.
Speaker 3: So funny Been.
Speaker 1: Francisco oh, man all, right well that was fun. Guys
Speaker 1: we've got to talk some. Trades. Listen we're gonna try
Speaker 1: to talk, trades you, know every, week maybe Every, wednesday
Speaker 1: maybe our second episode of every week now through the trade.
Speaker 1: Deadline And i'm Sure i'm positive players out there that
Speaker 1: we did not make mention that you were curious. About
Speaker 1: so if you want us to maybe dig in out a,
Speaker 1: guy maybe maybe Have, Reuben jim AND i give us
Speaker 1: give you our, flow no flow sentiments on a, player
Speaker 1: drop a comment on, YouTube drop a comment on x
Speaker 1: or On. Facebook we'll do our best to check those.
Speaker 1: Out maybe we'll get to your trade proposals next. Weekend
Speaker 1: throw us some trade proposals. Too we will shoot him
Speaker 1: down or we'll give him the green light.
Speaker 3: Or give him the. Flow and it all.
Speaker 2: Depends Since jim is drinking At moonshine, tonight that we
Speaker 2: might we might be going Full moonshine whilst we do.
Speaker 4: These this is this Is Chester, county well, water.
Speaker 3: Same, difference same, different exactly exactly all. Right we will
Speaker 3: be back On.
Speaker 4: Friday smell your little, Boys Jimmy Boy.
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