Hickory Dickory Shock

A bald eagle you’ve never met can still make you cry, and that’s where we start. We talk through the death of Jackie from the Friends of Big Bear eagle cam, what the rescue team shared about her anemia, and why “just let her go” isn’t as simple as it sounds. We also dig into the unexpected upside of a viral wildlife story: real conservation impact, land protected from development, and why even small donations to a raptor rescue or wildlife rehabilitation group can matter.

From there, we slide into the very Gen X whiplash of it all: more deaths in the news, nostalgia, and the way aging makes everything feel closer. Nicole shares a retinal doctor visit that turns into a plainspoken look at macular degeneration, what scans can show, the difference between dry and wet, and the maddening uncertainty of “maybe never” versus “maybe soon.” It’s equal parts dark humor and real-life practicality, because that’s how we cope.

Then we “mess around and find out” with shock comedians who shaped the era: Sam Kinison, Andrew Dice Clay, George Carlin, and Eddie Murphy. We unpack persona versus real life, Saturday Night Live controversy, censorship, free speech, and what still holds up when you replay the classics now. And yes, we end on a story that feels like the universe trolling: ordering a ham and Swiss at Arby’s and realizing way too late it’s corned beef.

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1 SPEAKER_00: Two best friends fucking fast.

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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Like Whatever, a podcast for, by, and

about Gen X.

I'm Nicole, and this is my VFFF, Heather.

SPEAKER_03: Hello.

SPEAKER_02: So we have some sad news to share.

SPEAKER_03: I'm a sad clown.

She is.

I live with my favorite bird.

But my my my bald eagle Jackie has passed away.

Found out yesterday.

Yes, Monday.

Very devastating.

I'm very upset about it.

I'm gonna try not to cry because I've cried several times,

especially because all these people keep posting all this

like tributes and stuff.

I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02: So I know I had heard, I think maybe the day

before that, the numbers had dropped drastically, and they

still didn't know why.

SPEAKER_03: She had gotten a tr a blood transfusion.

They have an eagle at their rescue that is permanently

there.

He can't be released, and he is their donor.

Yeah, poor guy.

I know.

So he had given her a blood transfusion.

Um, but the anemia, they don't know why.

They have done like all the the uh tests for any kind of rodent

side and all that.

So I don't know.

She didn't have any like they didn't have any lead, there was

no lead poisoning, which is typically where it comes from.

Um, but the anemia had just she wasn't gonna come back.

And one of the things they did say, which was true, was had

they not rescued her, like if she had gone somewhere, because

typically they just go away and into the woods somewhere and

die.

And she has clearly been sick for a while because she was

severely underweight.

Um, they said that the good thing about this is the all of

the humans that have been following her will be able to

have closure because had they not taken her to this rescue and

she had just been, she would have just disappeared and we

would have never known, you know, definitively what had

happened.

So it we all get closure.

They said she, you know, she was gonna die.

That they they had they had raised so much money in the time

she had got there that she had nine veterinarians to herself.

That's how when I said this poor Raptor Center when she died was

probably like fuck like this fucking bird.

Well, we're gonna get so much hate and like because people are

jackasses and we're like they need to let her go and blah blah

blah.

And the the cam is called Friends of Big Bear.

And the lady on there came on and was like, Look, I'm gonna be

very graphic with you as to what would have happened if they let

her back to her nest.

She cannot fly, she would be grounded, coyotes or whatever

the fuck else lives there would have ripped her to shreds.

They were like, it would have been, or she would have you know

just died of anemia, starvation.

She was like, it would not have been a pretty death.

SPEAKER_04: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: And now we all get closure as to what happened to

her, and there's no wondering, did she just leave the area?

So I guess, but so will you continue to now and that's

another thing.

Like the whole point of this camera is so that you can get

it, they can find out what you know what what what goes on in

eagles' lives when no one's paying attention, you know, and

you it's about educating people.

Um I think I heard today they said that there aren't, you

know, bald eagles used to be endangered when we were kids.

Now there's 300,000 of them in the country, so which seem like

not as many as I thought there would be.

Yeah, I agree.

Like I see them a lot, I do too.

But 300,000 still seems like not a lot.

SPEAKER_04: Right.

SPEAKER_03: Anyway, um, or maybe they said 400,000.

Either way, it's under half a million.

So um, so you know, it's it's about educating and when I'm

sure I said this before, but the area that they live in, of

course, it's a beautiful area, it's Big Bear Lake, and across

from where their territory was, was going to be developed in

housing and apartments, and like I guess like a marina situation,

and we know that all too well here.

Well, they were trying they have been trying to raise$10 million

for like I think I saw it like six months ago, maybe like back

in December, somewhere when they were the eagles, don't go to the

nests all year long.

They they start coming back in like December.

They leave the the two this year's babies left right around

the same time she went into the hospital.

So about three weeks ago, they left and they leave the area,

they're gone, they're done gone.

Um, so they then they get to find out, you know, what they

do, and then they just take kind of take they don't really come

back to the nest at all, really.

They have their favorite roost trees, and it's in the same

area, but they don't use the nest until like December.

Then they start coming back and you know, doing whatever repairs

they need to happen through the winter, blah, blah, blah.

So now one of the things they'll be able to do is find out

whether or not Shadow will stay with the nest because this nest

is the nest Jackie was born in.

Right.

Um, her parents, Ricky and Lucy, um, she was the first, she was

actually the first eagle to hatch at Big Bear.

Wow.

Yeah.

So I think that's also a lot of it, you know.

Um, and so her and Shadow have been together for eight years.

She's 14.

Well, it's 14.

Shadow's a little younger, but they've been together for eight

years.

So they've been working on this nest for eight years.

And a lot of it too is Shadow was a big I get it, they're

eagles.

I know.

Stop putting people traits on animals.

I know.

But he was like a big goofball.

Like there was a couple of times where he would show up with

like, they call it fluff, but it's like um straw and stuff

like that to that they keep push down in the nest to make it

fluffy or whatever.

And he would come and he would just dump it on her head while

she was like in the nest, and he would just like dump it on, and

then he'd come with a stick and like just put the stick right

where he would want it, and she would get up and move the stick

to where she wanted it, and they would fight over sticks.

And then one time he brought a stick and he wanted her, he

wanted to take his turn with the net, because they they take

turns sitting on the eggs, and he kept hitting her with a stick

until she got up, and then he jumped on them.

And I don't know, that it was they were goofy and silly and

whatever, you know.

But now they'll be able to find out, you know, what what is

going to happen.

Will one of her chicks come back?

I think there's a couple that are still alive that are old

enough to have, and then this new eagle has moved in.

Not the eagle, she was attacked by two subadults, which really

the only thing that that did was put her on the ground where they

could get her.

So, really, it's but those were subadults, they didn't have the

white head.

There is one that has been in the area now that is banded, so

they will they don't all her information, they know where

she's from and all that.

And her name is Katie KD1.

SPEAKER_02: So she's a slut.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's got a purple band, and she's been in

the nest, so now they don't know.

Yeah, they don't, and she's been seen very close to Shadow.

He hasn't been chasing her away, so only will they know in

December when his hormones kick in and he's like got to have

some babies.

So they'll that's an interesting thing.

One of the other good things is once she went into the hospital

and became national news, where everyone was invested, I guess,

they did end up finishing off and raising the$10 million that

they needed to buy the land so that that land will remain

untouched.

Um that's so awesome.

Funny how the rest of the money was given by the owners of an AI

center.

I suppose that's their offsetting, but whatever.

I shall not cast judgment.

Um and now, you know, when she was in the Raptor Center, they

were saying, you know, please stop messaging them.

They will give us updates when they can, they're very busy.

The most you you can give them money, like donate to them.

And they had just a massive amount of money that came in.

And ever since they announced her passing, I have seen the

donations that have been rolling in, and it is a lot of money.

So that's good.

I donated$10.

Um, and then I found a rescue here, a raptor rescue in

Pennsylvania.

That's the closest one, and I gave them$10.

So that's all I can give.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: And I did one.

SPEAKER_02: That's how I like to give just little things that I

see.

Like about a month ago during a heavy storm, I saw in

Philadelphia a man.

He was probably in like his 60s, and he had had like homelessness

and addiction issues and stuff, and he was clean now.

And he in his own yard in the city was cooking lunch for

homeless people every day.

And he had like a tent and some like picnic tables, and uh

during one of the storms, a huge tree crashed onto his whole

thing.

Um, so he had to go fund me.

So I gave 20 bucks to that.

Like those are the that's where I like to do my charity is

things.

I'm like, yeah, that's good.

This guy does need help.

SPEAKER_03: Well, and I gave the $10 to the it's the Ohi uh uh

Ohi, Ohi, I forget how to say it.

It's O J A I and it's in California.

Um they I gave them$10 and I was like, you know, they're gonna be

getting mad money.

And I and I don't, you know, if they I'm I'm sure they need it.

Um but then I was like, I really should find one closer because

Yeah, that was a good idea.

And so I did that.

So I don't know.

If you care at all about an eagle that was in California

that has passed away, maybe find a little raptor group, local

raptor chapter, chapter raptor that rehab your poet didn't know

that that does good or some conservation or something like

there was a um and I know you listened to it, the Don and Mike

show.

And when um Don's wife died, was very sad because it happened

here in Ocean City, and he was asking everyone to give her she

was big into animals, and so I I did end up giving to the um

Worcester County Humane Society in her honor.

So, you know, if you care about a bird somewhere or you know,

whatever, just see if you can find it's every bit of con that

was another thing, you know, they're developing a lot here

and encroaching on a lot of beautiful actually with the

osprey nest at Cape Henloop and had an issue this week.

An eagle came in and snatched the babies out, yeah.

So they lost their babies.

I know.

Stop watching eagle, stop watching cameras of birds.

SPEAKER_02: Are you talking to yourself?

SPEAKER_03: Yes, stop doing it.

It's nature, it's brutal, it happens, yes.

Oh yeah, but you know that's all part of it.

So I will be tuning in to find out what happens with shadow.

SPEAKER_02: Yes, keep us posted.

SPEAKER_03: I will sad, I'm sad, and I feel a little bit better

because some people have been posting, like, why am I so

fucking upset about an eagle that I've never even seen in

person?

I'm like, yeah.

But now I've gone on about it for 12 minutes.

So that's okay.

I'm very sad.

That's good.

I hope it helped.

I hope it was therapeutic.

It will for now, and then I'll be watching TikToks about and

then they have all these memorial TikToks with sad songs.

Stop.

Killing me, bro.

SPEAKER_02: Well, staying on the topic of death, it doesn't sound

like President Joe Biden is going to be with us for much

longer.

Um, it's very upsetting news.

I'm really upset he won't get to see his library.

That makes me sad.

I know that really sucks.

I know.

But yeah, Hunter has been saying he's in a lot of pain, it's

progressing quickly.

Yeah, it's hard to watch.

So it sounds like I know he has.

SPEAKER_03: They were here, I want to say around the 4th of

July.

Um Jill was at the outlets.

SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, I think I even saw a picture of

Jill with somebody like on the boardwalk, but not him.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know if he was here.

I know she was because she was at the outlets, but he might

have just come and stayed at the house.

He probably probably has to.

And I uh honestly, I imagine that that is where he will spend

the rest of his that would be a lovely place to do it.

It's a gorgeous area that he lives in.

It is, unfortunately, due to whatever stop building in areas

that you shouldn't fucking be building in.

Yes, exactly.

Eagles die that way.

It's terrible.

SPEAKER_02: And one more death.

Cooter.

Oh, I know I saw that.

Duke's a hazard passed away.

My first thought was I didn't know he's still alive because

that show is really old.

And of course, he was probably like 20 in that show, but he was

playing like a 50-year-old, so everybody was so much younger

back then than they looked.

So there's a Gen X one for us.

Um I did see that.

SPEAKER_03: I'm not as upset over Cooter dying as a bold

eagle, and I don't know.

See, that I don't know what that says about me.

Okay, but because I probably watched him just as much as I

watched an eagle from Big Bear, but you know, recency biased.

SPEAKER_02: I don't know.

I think I just don't like people.

Yeah, that that too.

I went to the retinal doctor yesterday for my annual checkup.

SPEAKER_03: I have I go to Thursday.

SPEAKER_02: My eyes are still well.

This year he said I have the eyes of someone 50 years older

than me.

So that would make it 103.

It's not a good direction to go in.

It's very hard to get information out of him because

he's a dorky retinal doctor.

So I try to ask questions and he just can't dumb it down enough

for me.

But I did learn that there's I have pictures to show you later,

but behind the retinal, there's a scan, a line, like an orange

line that goes around behind the retinal.

Yeah.

And it's just a nice straight orange line.

Mine is like wavy chaos.

It looks like an earthquake.

So, and I found out those are all bumps.

And but I have 2020 vision with my glasses on.

Oh, that's good.

Like he's just totally perpet perplexed by my eyes.

And the so there's dry macular degeneration and wet wet.

And the wet is the bad one.

But now I understand what the wet is.

The bumps eventually could cause a blood vessel to per burst.

And when that happens, that's what makes it wet, and that's

when the blindness starts.

SPEAKER_03: Is that because blood gets in the way, or or it

just breaks the blood and then it never repairs itself?

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02: I'm lucky I got that much out of it.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

So what will happen with your eye?

You just will go blind.

SPEAKER_02: So macular degeneration, you have perfyl

vision still.

So maybe the blood fills the retina.

SPEAKER_03: Oh, so you can see it.

That's weird.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's how my grandma was like, because it

skips a generation too, apparently.

SPEAKER_03: Oh, awesome for you.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.

Um, but I remember like she would hold if I showed her

pictures, because that's back in the day when we had paper

pictures, she would like hold it up, like look straight ahead,

but hold it up to the side of her eye so that she could kind

of see.

So yeah, good times.

SPEAKER_03: Sounds fun.

SPEAKER_02: I can't wait to go blind.

I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_03: I have the eye doctor on Thursday, and I'm I

desperately need a new prescription.

unknown: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Don't need that.

They well, I have 2020 vision with my glasses.

I haven't been to the doctor in a while, and I haven't let them

do the dilation because they I was headed for macular

degeneration also, and I don't need to know.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, there's not any reason to know.

No, he can't give me any predictions, it's not like oh,

the way it looks within a year, or I could live my whole life

and not go blind.

So I don't know.

But he sure does like to hype it up and make it feel kind of

scary.

He really he's just like, I just can't believe the way that

looks.

He's like, that's like an ancient eye.

So there are hundreds of bumps on each one, and you're it's

just little back there.

SPEAKER_03: I know.

Just gen genetics, huh?

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess.

Yep, interesting.

Lucky me.

SPEAKER_03: You are lucky.

SPEAKER_02: All right.

I think we're done with all that, all our bad news for

today.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, bummer.

Debbie downers today.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah.

All right.

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unknown: Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: All right.

Let's fuck around and find out about shock comedians.

Oh.

Oh.

All right.

And my resources this week are biography.com and wiki.

All right.

So obviously these are Gen X shock comics.

And it was hard to pick.

Like this first one I'd already thought of, the second one I'd

already thought of.

But when I looked at the list, I was like, shoo, we were

listening to lots of raunchy people back in our day.

SPEAKER_04: Yes.

SPEAKER_02: Like you can't even get away with saying that shit

anymore.

No.

All right.

SPEAKER_03: Can I guess which one of them is gonna be?

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you didn't look.

Nope.

All right, which one's first?

SPEAKER_03: I don't know who's first, but I know which one is

on the list.

Okay.

Jack and Jill went up the hill.

SPEAKER_02: That is correct.

But you gotta wait first and hear about Sam Kinnison.

Oh, Sam Kinnison.

This story is interesting.

I was never a fan.

Me neither.

Not my kind of comedy, but he was wildly popular.

Yes.

Um and don't answer this question, but did you know how

do you know how he died?

SPEAKER_03: I do.

SPEAKER_02: You do?

I didn't know.

Okay.

SPEAKER_03: I think I know.

I'm not gonna answer it, but I think I know.

SPEAKER_02: All right, when we get there, you can tell me if

you were right okay.

Okay.

Known for his crass humor and trademark scream, Sam Kennison

received his first break from comedian Rodney Dangerfield.

SPEAKER_03: Also not a fan.

SPEAKER_02: Also not a fan, no, except for in um Caddy Shat.

Oh, and uh the scene where he gets killed in um Juliet Lewis

and Oh Natural One Killer.

Yes, that one that's one of my favorite scenes of all time in a

movie.

So um all right, his job.

unknown: Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02: His popularity grew, earning him appearances on late

night with David Letterman and Saturday Night Live.

In 1988, Kennison received a Grammy nomination for his comedy

album.

He died in a car accident.

Not what I guess on April 10th, 1992, at the age of 38.

You thought drugs, didn't you?

I did.

Yep, that's what I did too.

When I read that, I was like, Are we sure that's not a Mandela

effect?

SPEAKER_03: I just watched a great show about Mandela

effects, by the way.

I think it was on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02: I just recently saw a Gen X meme that said you did

not see a movie called Shazam.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you didn't.

SPEAKER_02: It didn't exist.

It doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_03: No.

There's a bunch of them on this show that I was like, hold up.

Yeah.

What?

What?

No.

Because he doesn't say, Luke, I am your father.

No.

There's a that Forrest Gump does not say life is like a box of

chocolates.

There's another one too that I was like, wait a minute.

And they have a great theory.

Anyway, no, I'm not going to talk about Mandela effects

because I thought I should do an episode on it because there were

so many that I was like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_02: You really should.

Didn't you do?

We talked about it online.

SPEAKER_03: On the Mandela.

Oh, the Mandela episode.

SPEAKER_02: We yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03: But there's some interesting theories on it.

And it all has to do with CERN.

Concern ripped open the timeline.

unknown: I love it.

SPEAKER_02: All right.

Actor and comedian Sam Kinison was born in Yakima, Washington

on December 8th, 1953.

Kinison stunned and amazed audiences with his intense

comedic performances.

No topic was off limits for this controversial comic, and his

sharp barbs were often punctuated with his trademark

primal scream.

People know I'm triple X rated.

Obviously, I'm not a role model for impressionable youth.

No.

Kinison told People Magazine.

He's not wrong.

Triple X is something we don't X-rated isn't something we talk

about anymore either.

No.

I guess it's not a rating anymore.

Now it's just porn.

It's an NC17.

SPEAKER_03: Well, that's R.

Oh, that's above R.

And then there's just porn.

And then there's just porn.

Yeah.

Okay.

SPEAKER_02: Um, the son of a preacher, Kinison spent much of

his childhood in Peoria, Illinois.

Kennison Kinison was only three years old when he was hit by a

truck, which left him with some brain damage.

SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.

He we're lucky he didn't turn out to be a serial killer.

I know.

Washington, state, preacher father, head injury.

Man, that could have gone two ways.

SPEAKER_02: At the age of 12, he experienced another type of

trauma when his parents divorced.

I know.

Really could have gone perfect.

Speaking of serial killers, ID has it's new to me anyway.

I don't know if it's a show that's been on there, but I

watch a lot of it and I haven't seen it.

So, um, but I don't think this is what it's called, but it's

like lesser-known serial killers.

Yeah.

And some of it is like really crazy.

Like, yeah, there have been a lot of serial killers.

Well, I I think it's and I don't understand why some are famous

and some aren't.

SPEAKER_03: I did the serial killer episode, I don't remember

what it was called, but um, yeah, it was what like there was

800 of them at one time.

And then now, currently, they think there's only like less

than a hundred operating.

SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Um what a time to be alive.

We grew up in the serial killer era.

Lucky us.

What was the name of that episode?

Oh okay.

SPEAKER_02: Sam and younger brother Kevin stayed with their

mother while older brothers Richard and Bill went to live

with their father.

School held little interest for Kennison, probably because he

had a brain injury.

For real.

In his early teens, he was quite rebellious, cutting classes and

engaging in some shoplifting.

Kennison was sent to a religious boarding school called the

Pinecrest Bible Training Center in Utica, New York when he was

15.

What was the name of it?

SPEAKER_03: Yes, Virginia, there is a boogeyman.

SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Great title.

SPEAKER_02: It is.

Yeah.

Thank you.

You always, every time.

SPEAKER_03: I you're so good at it.

I don't know about every time, but when I get a good one.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.

Uh he discovered a passion for music and taught himself how to

play guitar around that time.

After that school year ended, Kinison returned for a brief

stay before striking out on his own.

He spent a few years wandering around the country.

After his father's death in 1972, Kinison decided to become

a preacher, which is hilarious if you think about it.

Uh his older brothers were already preachers, and Kinison

had some had sometimes played music for them during their

sermons.

While he took his religious calling seriously, he still had

a great sense of humor and was a big admirer of Richard Pryor.

SPEAKER_03: I could imagine that he probably would have made a

very good cult leader.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah.

He did kind of have a cult following.

Yeah.

It was very specific type of humor.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

Him and who was a guy that taught like that.

Gilbert Godfrey.

Yes.

God, I couldn't stand him.

I couldn't stand the persona of Gilbert Godfrey, yeah.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Why is he a good person?

I don't know.

I but I I've seen him on other things where he wasn't Gilbert

Godfrey.

SPEAKER_02: Was his voice still annoying?

SPEAKER_03: No.

SPEAKER_02: Okay.

Um, at the age of 21.

SPEAKER_03: Bobcat, too.

SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.

Well, Bobcat was in the police academy movies, so that's what

I'm saying.

But he was as by Bobcat.

SPEAKER_03: He was in blue, not as Bobcat.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's right.

He has a great story about him being in a room with Paul Rubens

and Johnny Depp.

And he said when he was sitting there, he was thinking, I'm the

only one of us that hasn't been to jail, which is weird.

And then he said, You cannot imagine how handsome Johnny Depp

is in person.

He was like, I'm not gay.

Don't even have he was like, God damn, that man is handsome.

SPEAKER_02: Did you see he's playing um Johnny Depp?

Ebenezer.

SPEAKER_03: I did.

SPEAKER_02: Is it Tim Burton?

No.

Oh, okay.

Are you still gonna watch it?

Yeah.

Okay.

At the age of 21, Kinison got married for the first time.

The union was a brief and unhappy one.

By 1977, Kinison was preaching in a rough section of Chicago,

but he soon abandoned the ministry to pursue his dreams of

becoming a comic.

He traveled to Houston for a comedy workshop the following

year and ended up staying there.

By 1979, Kinison was one of the city's top stand-up performers,

knocking out audiences with his rants about marriage and

religion.

He was often a featured performer at the comedy NX.

One night, Rodney Dangerfield caught Kennison's act and gave

the young comic some encouragement.

After twice being named the funniest man in Texas by the

Dallas Morning News, Kinison decided to move to Los Angeles

in 1980 to advance his career as a comic.

He ended up struggling for several years, however, as he

tried to break into the comedy scene there.

Initially performing for free, Kinison became a regular fixture

at the comedy store where he met and eventually befriended his uh

such comics as Robin Williams and Jim Carrey.

Robin Williams was another one on the shock list.

Yes.

Back in the day.

SPEAKER_03: He was very raunchy.

Oh, yes.

You know who else was?

Bob Sagitt.

Yes.

Very raunchy.

Nasty.

He has the absolute nastiest the the aristocrats joke, hands

down.

SPEAKER_02: Yep.

He is nasty.

He would I wish I could remember because shortly after he left um

America's Funniest Home Videos, which is what everybody knew him

from.

SPEAKER_03: And that in Full House, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: He was in like a movie or something, and he was

yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Well, I can't remember what it was.

People would go see his comedy because he was on Full House in

America, and then they would be like, What is happening right

now?

What is going on?

They had Dave Collier was on something after Bob Sagitt died,

and he was like, People were shocked when they would go see

him.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's crazy how tame his career was with his

nasal.

SPEAKER_03: With his nassius his humor was.

SPEAKER_02: Around this time, Kinison wed Terry Mars, uh,

which proved to be another challenging relationship for

him.

The couple separated after two years, but they did not

officially divorce until 1989.

Dangerfield gave him his first big break, giving him a spot on

his HBO comedy showcase.

The special ran in 1985, and Kinnison, with Kinison taking

over the nation's airwaves for several minutes to share his

comic rants about marriage and world hunger.

He was warmly received by viewers who had never seen

anyone quite like the husky beret wearing comic with the

razor-sharp wit.

unknown: Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Before long, Kinnison was making appearances

on Saturday Night Live and Late Night with David Letterman.

I remember him on Letterman.

I don't know if I remember him on Saturday Night Live.

SPEAKER_03: I don't either.

SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, if it was in the 80s, I was still a

little little for.

SPEAKER_03: I'm still a little little now to watch.

I have to watch Saturday Night Live on Sunday.

SPEAKER_02: I'm a little little.

I know I never catch it, but well, sometimes on Saturday

night I can catch the 10 o'clock episode.

Sure.

Before the other one.

But the past couple weeks, not the past couple weeks, the past

couple times I've been awake that long on a Saturday.

It's been reruns with people I don't like.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

And I hate that.

I just go on a whatever peacock and watch them.

I can't be up that late.

Even though my day off is Sunday, I still can't be up that

late.

No.

That's crazy.

That's crazy late.

SPEAKER_02: The following year, Kennison released a successful

comedy album, Louder Than Hell, and entertained moviegoers with

his small role in the Dangerfield comedy Back to

School.

He played a college history professor who snaps in the film.

That fall, however, Kennison's bash style of comedy landed him

in hot water with television censors.

Before his appearance on Saturday Night Live in October

of 1986, the censors told him not to do his routines about the

war on drugs and religion.

Kinison, always the rebel, ignored their request and did

his act just as he originally wanted to.

Imagine that.

Not the only time that's happened on there.

While the East Coast audience got to hear his comments, the

NBC television network changed the program for its West Coast

broadcast.

That's why the East Coast is better.

SPEAKER_03: Eastside.

SPEAKER_02: Still, the remarks caused quite a stir, leading the

show's producer Lauren Michaels to ban Kinnison from Saturday

Night Live.

Again, not the only one who's been banned.

No.

Michaels later reversed his decision after the network was

inundated with letters and calls from Kennison supporters.

They told Lauren to get his hands.

Suck it, but get over it.

Suck it up, buttercup.

Kinison aspired to make it in films, but he did not have much

luck after back to school.

His role in the comedy Three Amigos ended up on the cutting

room floor, and his plans to star in another film ended up

being scrapped.

On the small screen, however, he did well with his first HBO

special, Sam Kennison, Breaking the Rules.

Away from the spotlight, Kinison became known for his hard

partying lifestyle.

He was known to drink in excess and use drugs.

For much of his career, Kennison lived more like a rock star than

a comic, wrote his brother and manager Bill Kennison in his

book Brother Sam: The Short, Spectacular Life of Sam

Kennison.

Kennison was also known for his outrageous appetite for women

and had romantic alliances.

Dalliances?

Well, it's alliances with a D on the front.

I'm not even reading it.

With the likes of Jessica Hahn, Penny Marshall, and Beverly

D'Angelo over the years.

One to uh one to bear a grudge, Kennison feuded with fellow

comedians Bob Cat Goldwaith and Whoopi Goldberg, among others

during his career.

Whoopi was also on that list of shock comics.

SPEAKER_03: I don't remember her early stuff.

I don't remember her.

I only remember her from the HBO um when they did the homeless

thing every year.

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Uh considering his long-standing interest in music,

it was not surprising when Kennison decided to fuse his

comedy with rock and roll.

His cover version of the Trog single Wild Thing was a hit in

1988, and the video was played frequently on MTV.

That same year, Kinison received a Grammy Award nomination for

his comedy album, Have You Seen Me Lately.

Not everyone found Kinison funny.

It wasn't just us.

SPEAKER_03: But not because he was wrong, it was not my

question.

SPEAKER_02: No, definitely not.

I think it was the screaming.

I was definitely the screaming for me.

Some were put off by his crass and crude style, while others

objected to some of the topics he chose to discuss in his act.

Many found his rants about women to be offensive.

Nothing caused as much controversy as his jokes about

the disease AIDS.

He received death threats, and some of his appearances were

picketed.

Around the time Kennison settled a lawsuit with United Artists

over his earlier failed film.

He received another blow when his younger brother, Kevin,

committed suicide in 1988.

He had a very tragic life.

SPEAKER_03: I'll say.

SPEAKER_02: Despite his personal challenges, Kennison continued

with his hectic stand-up comedy tours and released his third

album, leader of the band, B-A-N-N-E-D, to mixed reviews.

The critics praised his comic routines, but they largely

panned his musical efforts, which included covers of such

rock classics as Highway to Hell and Mississippi Queen.

Kinison experienced some difficulties in his personal

life.

According to the book Brother Sam, he had several car wrecks

in 1990 because he was driving while intoxicated.

SPEAKER_03: Get out.

SPEAKER_02: His longtime girlfriend, Malika Sori, was

reportedly raped in the Los Angeles home they shared by a

man the two had met at a club earlier that evening.

Oh my boy.

unknown: I know.

SPEAKER_02: Sorry shot at her attacker several times using one

of Kinison's guns.

Kinison was unaware of what was happening at the time because he

was passed out in another room in the house.

While he never completely quit using drugs or drinking,

Kinnyson did cut back on his outrageous behavior in his final

years.

He even tried Alcoholics Anonymous for a time.

Trying to revive his sagging career, Kinnison made a guest

appearance on the sitcom Married with Children, which earned

stellar ratings.

He soon began negotiating with the Fox Television Network to

appear in his own sitcom.

SPEAKER_03: I don't remember him on Married with Children.

SPEAKER_02: I don't either.

Kinison starred as the boisterous miniature alter ego

of a middle-aged accountant on Charlie Hoover, which premiered

in November 1991.

While the show only lasted a few months, it helped reignite

interest in Kinnison.

He was reportedly negotiating a two-film deal with the New Line

Cinema when his career came to a tragic halt.

On May 5th, 1992, Kinison married his girlfriend Sori in

Las Vegas.

The couple honeymooned in Hawaii for a few days before returning

to California so that Kinison could make it to a gig in

Laughlin, Nevada.

Kinison and Sori set out for Laughlin on April 10th, with

Kinison's brother Bill and several others following them in

a van.

About 200 miles east of Los Angeles, Kinison's sports car

was hit by a pickup truck driven by a 17-year-old.

He was conscious briefly after the accident.

According to Brother Sam, Kinison's final words were, Why

now?

I don't want to die.

Why?

Which gives me goosebumps.

Yeah, that's pretty sad.

He then stopped breathing, and efforts to revive him proved

unsuccessful.

At the age of 38, one of America's most distinctive

comedians died from his injuries.

SPEAKER_03: He was only 38.

SPEAKER_02: Right.

SPEAKER_03: Wow.

I know.

He did not look like he was only 38.

SPEAKER_02: He always looked like he was 38.

All right.

You guess the next one.

The dice man?

Yep.

SPEAKER_03: I have a love hate with the dice man.

I do too.

I don't know.

I think it's because I get the joke.

I think that's what it is.

I think I feel like I get the joke.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03: Exactly.

Plus, he was in Pretty in Pink.

He was in a lot of things, yes, actually.

Yes.

I think that's why I like I think that I don't even hate his

comedy.

SPEAKER_02: And this is like a nostalgia for me.

We were probably like, let's see, when was he popular?

Uh in the nine in the late 80s, early 90s.

So I was in high school and I had a lot of guy friends, and of

course, all teenage boys loved him.

Yeah.

So hearing them all banter back and forth and tell his jokes and

his little one-liners, like that's what I think of when I

think of him.

So I think and he never did anything to really offend me.

SPEAKER_03: I think that's just I think that I think I think

that's what it is.

I think I just got the joke.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

That's not none of you.

I've never found any, I've never been like, oh no.

Clutching my pearls at any comedian or anything.

Like I just whatever.

I mean, no.

unknown: Whatever.

SPEAKER_02: I have seen comedians, and I can't think of

anything off the top of my head where they say something, and

I'm like, oh my God.

And it's happened to me on um South Park too.

Yeah.

Sometimes their jokes, I'm like, wow.

Like, I'm not offended, but I'm just like, holy cow, I can't

believe you went there.

SPEAKER_03: There's been some RuPaul's drag race where I'm

like, what did you just say?

Oh my stars.

I wasn't offended, but I was like, blushing a little bit,

maybe.

You said that on TV.

On the TV.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah, good for them though.

And Tosh Poinot, remember that show?

Yeah.

He used to say some really bad stuff.

SPEAKER_03: And that's another one.

I get the joke.

Exactly.

I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02: I was happy to see he still does stand up because

he's on TikTok a lot.

Something I thought I I haven't seen him since he had his show,

and I'm like, man, did he get canceled?

Because he totally could have been canceled.

Um, but yeah, I don't know.

I guess he just doesn't do anything on TV anymore.

But yeah, he was funny as hell.

I loved him.

Yeah.

Um, Andrew Clay Silverstein was born September 29th, 1920.

That's why day after your birthday.

Day after my birthday.

Yeah, of course.

Known professionally as Andrew Dice Clay is an American

stand-up comedian and actor.

He rose to prominence in the late 1980s through The Dice Man,

a leather-jacketed, hyper-masculine stage persona

whose profane nursery rhymes and routines about sex, gender, and

ethnicity attracted both a large audience and widespread

criticism.

SPEAKER_03: Also, my dad used to say the little Miss Muffet all

the time.

SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

We're going to get to my dad's favorite next.

Not Andrew Dice Clay.

Um, contemporary critics and advocacy groups frequently

described the material as misogynistic and homophobic.

Again, we got the joke.

Like so, yeah, you still can't do it now.

But no, he was a persona.

Clay maintained.

Clay maintained that the character was an extravagant

performance distinct from his personal private personality.

In February 1990, Clay became the first stand-up comedian to

sell out Madison Square Garden on two consecutive nights.

His first comedy album, Dice, in 1989, was uh certified gold by

the Recording Industry Association of America.

And the day the laughter died in 1990 reached the top 40 of the

Billboard 200.

That year he hosted a controversial episode of

Saturday Night Live and starred in the comedy mystery film The

Adventures of Ford Fairlane.

SPEAKER_03: Remember, yes.

That was the one where he tore up the picture of um Sinead

O'Connor, wasn't it?

I think so, yeah.

That sounds right.

SPEAKER_02: Uh Clay later received praise for supporting

performances in Blue Jasmine, A Star Is Born.

Uh, the cast of A Star Is Born, including Clay, was nominated

for the Actor Award for Outstanding Performance by a

cast in a motion picture.

He starred as a fictionalized version of himself in the

Showtime comedy series Dice, which ran for two seasons from

2016 to 2017.

His later roles include the miniseries Pam and Tommy, the

sports drama Warrior Strong, and the action comedy The Pickup,

which I don't know any of those.

SPEAKER_04: I don't either.

SPEAKER_02: Um Clay was born Andrew Clay Silverstein, I

already read that um in the Sheep's Head Bay neighborhood of

Brooklyn, New York.

Really?

He's from Brooklyn.

Get out.

Never in a million years.

His parents were Jacqueline and Fred Silverstein.

His father was a boxer and real estate agent.

And Clay was Clay has one older sister.

He was raised Jewish, in case you didn't know by Silverstein.

Um Clay began entertaining relatives with impressions when

he was five and took up the drums at seven, influenced by

big band music.

He attended James Madison High School.

During the 1970s, he worked as a drummer at weddings and bar

mitzvahs in the Catskill Mountains, performing under the

name Clay Silvers.

That's a pretty cool name too.

Yeah.

Um after returning to New York, he attempted unsuccessfully to

form a big band.

He briefly attended college before leaving to pursue

entertainment full-time.

Clay has cited Elvis Presley, Fonzi, John Travolta, and uh

Sylvester Stallone as formative pop culture influences.

No.

Again, never would have guessed.

Never.

Clay began his stand-up career in 1978 when he was when he

auditioned at Pip's Comedy Club in Sheep's Head Bay, which

turned into a headline spot at the venue the next week, billed

as Andrew Clay.

His act was mainly impressions, including a character named The

Dice Man, based on Jerry Lewis as Buddy Love from The Nutty

Professor, which transformed into John Travolta's character

Danny Zuko from Greece.

It took him three weeks to prepare the act.

A picture of him on stage during his early sets at Pips was

described in a baggy white shirt, pants rolled up to his

knees, and a pair of thick glasses, with a black leather

jacket underneath the shirt, so he could seamlessly switch to

his Travolta character when the lights went out.

With his new act, Clay graduated to larger and more prestigious

comedy venues, including The Improv, Catch a Rising Star, and

Dangerfields.

He recalled his father being supportive of his act during one

performance at Dangerfields.

Fields.

He knew it was different right off the bat.

He saw it worked.

The persona was more of a shock to his mother, but she got used

to it and he recalled her laughing at his jokes.

SPEAKER_03: She got the joke.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah.

But I can't imagine a little old Jewish mother.

That's some pearl clutching out there.

unknown: That is.

SPEAKER_02: In 1980, Clay had moved to Los Angeles and landed

work at the comedy store owned by Mitzi Shore.

His sets were not an instant hit, and because of his dirty

act and her unwillingness to have other comics follow him,

Shore had Clay perform at late hours, making him wait and

perform for 10 drunks.

In 1982, Clay landed his first film role in Wacko.

In 1983, Clay added the Diceman moniker to his name and no

longer relied on impressions, instead, he created an alter ego

based on his heroes.

He first used the act at the comedy store after he was asked

to fill in for a comic who cancelled their spot.

He said, I didn't have my Jerry Lewis stuff with me, so I just

winged it, saying whatever popped in my head.

Clay's performances at the venue led to his first sitcom role

with appearances on MASH.

Right?

I think I do remember him on that.

I don't.

Different strokes.

Don't remember that one.

Uh full-length films making the grade.

That sounds familiar.

Pretty in Pink.

Pretty in Pink.

Yeah.

Of course.

I love that one.

And Casual Sex.

Don't remember him in that.

unknown: Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_02: Uh, a review by Los Angeles Times critic Michael

Wilmington described Clay's character Vinny Falcone as a

macho bozo from Jersey.

Uh, from 1987 to 1980, no, 1986 to 1988, he had a regular role

as Max Goldman on Crime Story.

Don't remember that.

I don't remember that either.

We were just kids though.

True.

Well, teenagers.

We had better stuff to do.

You probably wasn't allowed to watch murder shows then.

No.

I remember I wasn't allowed to watch um what was that show?

Hill Street Blues.

My parents would always go in their room to watch it.

I was like.

SPEAKER_03: My mine didn't watch stuff like that.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think of what they watched.

I can't.

Music.

Your parents just listen to music.

Yeah.

Godzilla.

We watched a lot of Godzilla.

SPEAKER_02: A lot.

Zach included a drum solo as a tribute to Buddy Rich.

Clay then pursued stand-up comedy full-time as the dice

character.

Clay's breakthrough came in 1988 when he performed at an all-male

Big Brother Association dinner event with all of Hollywood's

royalty, dressed in tuxedos, and I showed up in a black leather

jacket with a flag on the back that said rock and roll.

The set was a hit.

The next day, 20th Century Fox offered him a film deal and

entered talks with producer Joel Silver.

Also in 1988, Clay performed a seven-minute set at

Dangerfield's in New York City for Rodney Dangerfield's HBO

stand-up showcase, special Nothing Goes Right, launching

him into National Spotlight.

In January 1989, Clay's HBO special, The Dice Man Cometh,

appeared on HBO.

I do remember that.

It became a top video rental according to Entertainment

Weekly.

In March, he released his debut album, Dice, which was certified

gold by RIAA for selling over 500,000 copies.

The appearance included his explicit versions of nursery

rhymes and led MTV to describe him as banned for life from the

network.

The ban was later lifted.

In December 1989, Clay performed two unadvertised, largely

improved sets at Dangerfield, which were recorded for his

second comedy album, The Day the Laughter Died, produced by Rick

Rubin.

In February 1990, Clay became the first stand-up comedian to

sell out Madison Square Garden for two consecutive nights,

drawing a combined audience of approximately 38,000.

When Clay was booked to host Saturday Night Live on May 12,

1990, cast member Nora Dunn announced that she would not

appear because she objected to his routines and scheduled

musical guest Sinead O'Connor withdrew for the same reason.

Which Sinead, okay, whatever, like that's different.

But Nora Dunn, you're a comedian too.

Like get over yourself.

You've heard you probably worked with uh Eddie Murphy.

You'll be okay.

Protesters interrupted Clay's opening monologue and were

removed from the studio.

NBC used a short broadcast delay to remove some language,

although one anti-gay retort aired.

The broadcast was among the highest-rated episodes of the

show's 15th season.

Clay first met his agent Dennis Arfer at uh Danger Fields, which

led to his first HBO special, and ultimately his starring role

in the 1990 film, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane.

Uh he is featured on the front cover of the April 1991 issue of

Penthouse, becoming the second man to front the magazine after

George Burns.

I mean, didn't see that one coming.

George Burns is pretty cool.

Well, um, he's another one.

He was 107 our whole entire lives.

Like he was never young.

No, which just makes the penthouse thing gross.

Um, footage of Clay's shows at Madison Square Garden were used

to produce his 1991 stand-up concert, Dice Rules.

His controversial act affected the number of venues willing to

screen the film.

Um, let's see.

In 1993, ABC dropped a proposed one-hour television drama that

was to feature Clay after management deemed him too

controversial.

Clay had signed a one-year deal with ABC that kept him from

working with other networks.

Uh, let's see.

In 19 in July 1993, Clay released No Apologies, the first

stand-up concert pay-per-view special.

I didn't know that.

It was purchased by over 250,000 homes and was the

highest-grossing non-sport pay-per-view event of the year.

It was to feature Joey Budafoco, but the plan was dropped on his

attorney's advice after the publicity it attracted.

Uh not gonna say anything about Joey Budafoco.

He could be his own one episode, oh yeah.

And will be.

Uh, in 95, he signed a deal with CBS and producer Bruce Helford,

resulted in his starring role on the sitcom Bless This House.

SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Was that a comedy?

Uh-huh.

I don't remember that.

In the mid-1995, in mid-1995, Clay explained that the Dice Man

character had sort of gone out of hand, which he felt happy

about because it allowed him to pursue more television and film

work.

The situation led to a change in his stand-up act, focusing more

on being a husband and a father, yet still with an edge.

Um, let's see.

All right, next is my dad's favorite.

Oh, you might want to do your diary.

Oh yeah.

All right, so now it is time for Nicole's diary.

Nicole's diary.

Woop woo.

Um, it's October 17th, 1985.

SPEAKER_03: She would have been six.

No.

1985.

SPEAKER_02: No.

Tonight, me, mommy, Anthony, who has a lot of hearts around his

name, so we love that crush on Anthony.

Um, my stepdad and my sister went to see Sawyer Brown in

concert at the Price Honda in Dover.

Do you remember the band Sawyer Brown?

SPEAKER_03: I I do.

I'm confused as to why they were at the Price Honda in Dover.

SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.

Like, I remember this, like, this was a big deal to me

because we watched um Star Search, and that's where they

got their start.

They were a banned on Star Search.

And so I was like, diehard.

And then yes, I remember you know where Price Honda is.

I do.

Yep.

Just off to the side of the building, right there in the

parking lot.

They set the stage up next to the the car dealership, and we

were just out in the parking lot.

I know, I know, but I remember it clear as day.

It really happened.

And now I have proof.

It's just now I have proof.

It's in writing.

SPEAKER_03: That's odd.

It's an odd place to have a concert.

Not the state fair or I'm trying to think of any kind of an arena

in Dover, which there is not.

I mean, now we have like Hudson Fields.

Yeah, like now we have like Hudson Fields and uh the one the

other one that I couldn't remember the name of the other

night.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Anyway.

SPEAKER_02: Anyway.

SPEAKER_03: Freeman Stage.

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: I worked there.

You did.

All right.

My next one is my dad's favorite, George Carlin.

I I assumed that was gonna be he had this album, and he had the

my dad had the big cabinet, wooden cabinet um record player

where he lifts the whole lid up.

It was so fancy.

And the speakers were built into the cabinet.

Yeah, and he played this album over and over.

SPEAKER_03: My dad enjoyed George Carlin.

Yes.

I think my dad saw Andrew Dice Clay in person.

SPEAKER_02: Sounds like something he'd do.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: After dropping out of high school and enlisting in

the Air Force, George Carlin began taking radio jobs,

eventually attracting the attention of Lenny Bruce, who

helped uh get him appearances on the tonight show.

SPEAKER_03: Can I just interject real quick first before I

forget?

Yes, my dad did go see Andrew Dice Clay.

I do remember.

So free nights and weekends.

I don't know if that makes you love my dad even more.

But that's what he was doing in that picture.

SPEAKER_02: And he had That's what that guy does.

Yeah, and yeah, exactly.

And he was sporting the stash when he went to see him, I

promise.

SPEAKER_03: He was only like 10 minutes in his life where he

didn't have the stash.

SPEAKER_02: I don't know what he looks like right now.

SPEAKER_03: It grew back in 10 minutes.

Yeah.

He shaved it and it's a I don't know.

I haven't seen him today yet, so I don't know what he looks like.

SPEAKER_02: Seriously, doubt he's not.

He's probably got the Fu Manchu.

He's usually keeps it.

Fu Manchu is my favorite.

He usually keeps that.

Oh my gosh, I love a Fu Manchu.

SPEAKER_03: Or a Van Dyke.

I don't know.

He's got the mustache and it goes all over.

SPEAKER_02: He does have the Fu Manchu.

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Um all right.

Sorry, I just wanted to.

SPEAKER_02: Carlin went on to become a popular stand-up

comedian, author, and film and television actor.

George Dennis Patrick Carlin.

Oh, he's like my youngest two middle names.

Um, was born May 12th, 1937, in the Bronx, New York.

Carlin and his older brother Pat were primarily raised by their

mother in Manhattan's Morningside Heights

neighborhood.

Mary Carlin, a devout Irish Catholic, worked as a secretary

to support her children.

When George was an infant, she left Carlin's father, Patrick,

who was a national advertising manager for the New York Sun.

Carlin attended parochial school, and much of his negative

religious sentiment stems from his experiences as a Roman

Catholic altar boy.

SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say he was a big atheist.

Go atheists.

SPEAKER_02: Yeah.

Go atheists, Al.

Yeah.

I know that growing up in church is what made me atheist.

Yeah, that'll do it.

Um, Carlin completed two years of high school before dropping

out in the ninth grade.

In 1954, at age 17, he enlisted in the U.S.

Air Force as a radar technician and was stationed at

Shrevenport, Louisiana.

Over the next three years, Carlin earned his high school

equivalency and moonlighted as a disc jockey at a local radio

station.

Makes sense.

Uh-huh.

He would add a great voice for that.

Yeah.

He also received three court martials and numerous

disciplinary punishments, according to his official

website.

SPEAKER_03: Also, no surprise.

No.

SPEAKER_02: After a general discharge in 1957, he took radio

jobs in Boston and Fort Worth, Texas.

In 1959, Carlin teamed up with Texas newscaster Jack Burns.

The pair collaborated on a morning show, uh morning radio

show in Fort Worth before relocating to Hollywood, where

they attracted the attention of the legendary Lenny Bruce.

Oh yeah.

Are you singing the REM song now?

SPEAKER_03: No.

SPEAKER_02: Okay.

But he's not afraid.

No.

Bruce helped Burns and Carlin secure appearances on the

Tonight Show with Jack Parr.

Uh and George Carlin ended up making a total of 130

appearances on the Tonight Show.

SPEAKER_04: Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02: Burns and Carlin eventually split up, and over

the next few years, Carlin continued to make numerous

appearances on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson as well as 29

appearances on the Merv Griffin Show.

SPEAKER_03: He got around.

SPEAKER_02: In the early 1960s, Carlin got his start as a

stand-up comic by performing on the Las Vegas circuit and

entertaining TV audiences.

Carlin enjoyed moderate successes until the mid-70s when

he reinvented his image and adopted a less conventional,

somewhat vulgar comedy routine.

Carlin Scripps scripted monologues began to represent

his disillusioned attitude toward the world, in which

explored the high sensitive issues of Vietnam, politics,

religion, American culture, drugs, the demise of humanity,

and the right to free speech.

How about that?

So crazy.

That sounds so familiar.

In July 1972, Carlin was arrested for violating obscenity

laws in Milwaukee after his infamous routine, seven words

which can't say on television.

And I do you remember the words?

SPEAKER_03: Not really.

I'm sure I say them all.

SPEAKER_02: Piss, shit, cunt, cock, sucker, motherfucker, and

tits.

I've never forgotten.

I've heard that album so many times.

It's engraved in my brain.

SPEAKER_04: There you go.

SPEAKER_02: When a radio station played a recording of Carlin's

seven words routine, it sparked a legal case over obscenity

regulations.

They're just words people get over.

I mean, move on.

Jesus.org.

In 1978, the U.S.

Supreme Court upheld the government's right to penalize

stations that broadcast such material on public airwaves

during hours 6 a.m.

to 10 p.m.

when young people may tune in.

SPEAKER_03: What?

Because they weren't certainly not saying those in.

SPEAKER_02: There's no other way they would have ever found out

if it weren't for those words ever.

As a self-professed atheist and avid cocaine user, of course.

They go hand in hand.

Just kidding.

I've never tried cocaine.

Um, his adversaries deemed him anti-religious and disrespectful

of society.

However, the comedian's new material brought him success

from the younger counterculture.

Carlin illustrated his anti-establishment views by

being the first host of the Risque TV show Saturday Night

Live on October 11th, 1975.

In 1977, Carlin starred in his first HBO comedy special on

location, George Carlin at USC.

In all, he did 14 such specials, including 2008's It's Bad For

You.

In 1990, Carlin compiled a multi-cd set that highlighted

his work from the 70s titled George Carlin, The Little Dave

David Years.

The collection included the albums FM and AM, Class Clown,

Occupation Fool, Toledo, Window Box, An Evening with Wally

Londo, featuring Slazzo, and On the Road.

Carlin received two Grammy Awards for FMAM and Jammin in

New York, for which he won a Grammy.

Carlin published Braindroppings in 1997.

The book included his comedic take on life, society, and

politics.

It spent 18 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list.

Throughout his career, Carlin took on a number of comedic

roles in films such as 1987's Outrageous Fortune and as Rufus

and Mm.

SPEAKER_03: Be excellent to each other.

One of my all-time hands-down favorite movies.

Yes.

It's I I and I like the sequel.

I don't care.

I don't like the new one.

I saw it.

It's horrible.

SPEAKER_02: But I did it's them though, right?

It's still yeah.

I didn't watch the new one.

SPEAKER_03: They did a lot of work.

Gotcha.

It's a lot of makeup or CGI or something.

It's really not.

But the I enjoyed the second one with death, where they have to

beat death.

I of course you love it.

Yeah, I just enjoy a movie with death in general.

Anyone who's playing the Grim Reaper, it's probably going to

be a movie for me.

SPEAKER_02: We're talking about Bill and Teds in case you all

have to figure out.

SPEAKER_03: If you didn't know that, then why are you here?

SPEAKER_02: He took a more dramatic turn in The Prince of

Tides, and I remember seeing The Prince of Tides in 1991.

It had Nick Nulty.

SPEAKER_03: Barbish try's hand.

Oh my god.

Never seen it, never will.

So not my thing.

You know that.

That you know that the director, is it their director?

Somebody involved in that movie parks his yacht in Lewis all

summer long because the name of the yacht is The Prince of

Tides.

SPEAKER_02: I was just down on the docks at Lewis on TV.

You might have seen it.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

I think it sits there.

Uh, I think it sits there.

SPEAKER_02: I dropped$300 on my daughter and her boyfriend for

their birthday dinner.

Don't think so.

I made them go walk on the docks with me.

I would too.

All right.

So my youngest is bougie.

Very don't know where this came from.

I don't either.

I have no idea, but she is such a brand slut and just bougie.

Oh, so we go to this restaurant that she picked out, and it was

amazing food, a beautiful atmosphere.

The drinks were just to die for.

It better be.

I got a rick whipped ricotta toast.

Were they like made toast?

And then like oh god, it was so good.

My daughter, we all got burgers.

Thank God.

That saved me from it being a five million dollar bill.

Um, but they had been there before and they love their

burgers, so I was like, all right, so we'll try that.

So bacon smash burgers, like um, but they came with fries and you

could get toppings on your fries.

And my daughter got caviar and chives on her fries.

It was really good caviar though.

SPEAKER_03: This is the same kid who couch surf for like four

years across the country.

She did.

SPEAKER_02: Yep.

SPEAKER_03: And around here.

Like I don't think she actually had a place to live.

SPEAKER_02: No.

So we went Sunday night and did that.

We had a really fun time.

And then Monday was her actual birthday.

Her boyfriend's birthday is this coming weekend.

So for her birthday on Monday, he was taking her to King of

Pressure Mall.

SPEAKER_04: Oh.

SPEAKER_02: She already had a list of 12 stores she needed to

see.

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: Was Gucci one of them?

Louis Vuitton.

SPEAKER_02: She said she is staying.

She said one of her co-workers was like, Girl, you need to go

to Louis Vuitton and Gucci.

And she was like, No, why would I get one thing when I can get a

whole bunch of things?

I mean, you're not wrong.

Right.

And then they went into Philly, into Philadelphia, into the

city, and ate at a very bougie restaurant in there that also

served caviar.

But yeah, I don't know.

And her boyfriend now, he drives a Corvette.

Last year, an Audi.

unknown: Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Before that, it was something.

Oh, BMW.

But he also likes repairs things.

Like he flips stuff.

But yeah.

Convertible Corvette.

My daughter's like, I like it when the top's down.

It's like, oh, I'm sure you do.

SPEAKER_03: I don't know how we got here.

SPEAKER_02: I don't know where she came from.

SPEAKER_03: She wasn't like that before.

SPEAKER_02: She was not.

She was always just chill and laid back and cool.

Like, nope, nope, nope.

That's okay.

Happy Billia birthday to my lid.

Um, let me find.

We used to call her Squiddia.

SPEAKER_03: We did.

That's where that kid came.

SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.

One time we were on a field trip and I called her Squiddy on the

field trip and her friends heard and started laughing.

And I was like, oh my god, Lydia, I am so so I just imagine

it was like first grade, and I just imagined her being called

Squiddia throughout the rest of her school career.

But she's also very chill, like she doesn't get embarrassed or

offended easily.

So, and I don't think they ever called her Squidia, but yes.

Squid.

All right, let's see.

George Carlin.

That's who we're talking about.

Not Squiddia.

He was also featured in Kevin Smith's film Dogma, in which he

played Cardinal Glick, uh, a fame seeking religious figure.

Um and he was also the voice of the Volkswagen bug or bus in

cars.

The cart.

Yes, he was.

Um, in 1990s, he enjoyed success with series television.

In 91, he was the voice of the train conductor on Shining Time

Station.

SPEAKER_03: Yes, I remember that.

SPEAKER_02: And he narrated Thomas the tank engine and

friends through 1998.

He also starred as a cab driver in the George Carlin show from

1993 to 95.

Don't remember that.

I vaguely it sounds familiar, but I can't picture it.

Um, in addition to his acting, writing, and recording, Carlin

continued to perform about 150 dates a year on the road.

That's a lot.

That is.

When you're doing all that other stuff.

In 2004, he placed second behind uh Richard Pryor on Comedy

Central's list of top 100 comics of all time.

On June 17, 2008, just five days before his death, it was

announced that he was being awarded the 11th annual Mark

Twain Prize for American Humor.

Carlin's first wife, producer Brenda Haasbrook, died in May

1997 from complications of liver cancer.

Their 35-year marriage produced a daughter, and he is survived

by his second wife.

Yep.

And now the last one.

SPEAKER_03: What did he die of?

Cancer?

SPEAKER_02: It didn't.

His wife died of cancer, his first wife.

It doesn't say what he died from.

SPEAKER_03: I'll find out.

Also, I looked up um Andrew Dice Clay, it never had any

allegations.

There were no Gations against Andrew Dice Clay.

SPEAKER_02: I usually do that before I put anybody in a

script.

I meant to really do it on Kennison.

SPEAKER_03: I was like, I didn't even bother to look at it.

SPEAKER_02: I don't think that was.

I mean, he was a womanizer, but heart failure.

Okay.

It wasn't that long ago either, right?

2008.

Jeez.

So, yes.

Time flies when you're having fun.

I'll tell you.

All right, the final, my all-time favorite comedian from

back then, Eddie Murphy.

I figured.

By the way, I know I mentioned it months ago when I watched it,

but if you haven't watched the Netflix special about Eddie

Murphy, it is so good.

Not you, the audience.

I know you don't care to watch it.

I don't.

Um, Eddie Murphy began doing stand-up comedy as a teenager

and later joined the cast of Saturday Night Live.

At age 21, Murphy co-starred with Nick Nolte in 48 Hours, and

he went on to further box office successes with Trading Places,

Beverly Hills Cop, Coming to America, The Nutty Professor,

and Shrek.

He has continued to star in many movies, including comedies,

dramas, and family films.

Eddie Reagan Murphy was born on April 3rd, 1961, in Brooklyn,

New York.

Apparently, they have a thing for New York comedians.

Yeah, well.

It makes sense.

He spent his early years in the projects of Bushwick with his

father, Charles, a New York City police officer and amateur

comedian.

That's a shame that his father was a New York City police

officer and had to live in the projects.

Right.

His mother, Lillian, was a telephone operator, and his

brother Charles, who I also love.

Loved, he passed away.

Do you know his brother Charles?

Vaguely.

You would know him from the Dave Chappelle show.

Yeah, that's what I figured.

Yeah.

Charlie Murphy.

Yes.

He was funny too.

His parents divorced when he was three.

Five years later, his father died, and his mother went into

the hospital for an extended period.

When Murphy was nine years old, his mother married Vernon Lynch,

a foreman at a Briars ice cream factory score.

unknown: Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_02: I wish my mom would have married someone that worked

at the Briars Ice Cream Factory.

SPEAKER_03: My mom married someone who worked at the sugar

factory.

SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03: I didn't benefit.

SPEAKER_02: I know.

Uh, and the family moved to the primarily African-American

suburb of Roosevelt, Long Island.

Murphy watched a lot of television growing up and

developed a great skill for impressions, doing such

characters as Bugs Bunny, uh Bullwinkle, and Sylvester.

His mother says, I never talked in my own voice, Murphy later

said.

Although he was never a dedicated student, Murphy found

a great form for his verbal agility in grade school,

excelling in the popular game of ranking, trading witty insults

with classmates.

I'll bet they didn't stand each hand.

No.

He probably sent kids home crying.

Murphy wasn't the only family member to develop an interest in

comedy.

Older brother Charlie later became a writer and actor for

Chappelle's show.

Uh, the popular sketch program, starring Dave Chappelle, who is

also one of my favorites.

He's one too that once says something, and I'm like, oh

yeah.

Uh Charlie died of leukemia in April 2017.

I can't believe that's been that long either.

Jeez, time flies when you're having fun.

I'll tell you.

Upon Charlie's death, Murphy released a statement.

Our hearts are heavy with the loss today of our son, brother,

father, uncle, and friend Charlie.

Charlie filled our family with love and laughter, and there

won't be a day that goes by that his presence will not be missed.

Hosting a talent show at the Roosevelt Youth Center at age

15, Murphy delighted his young audience with an impersonation

of Al Green.

This early success ignited a passion for showbiz, and young

Eddie began working on his comedy routines after school and

performing stand-up at local bars, clubs, and gong shows.

His schoolwork suffered, however, and Murphy had to

repeat the 10th grade.

I think he paid out okay.

unknown: Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Um, by doubling up on classes and attending summer

and night school, he graduated with a couple of months, uh,

only a couple of months late.

Murphy was voted the most popular boy in his graduating

class.

Well, he was probably the only one if he was a few months late

graduate.

Valedictorian.

Uh responding to the pleas of his mother, Murphy enrolled at

Nassau Community College after high school and worked part-time

as a shoes shoe store clerk.

He continued to perform in local clubs and eventually worked his

way into such new New York City venues as the comic strip,

billing himself as a discipline of the great comedian Richard

Pryor, who everyone idolized back then.

Although his raunchy profanity-ridden routines

resembled his idols, Murphy stayed away from drinking,

smoking, and drugs and would later declare to Barbara

Walters, I don't have to sniff cocaine to make me funny.

And that is something he's never that is a surprise to me.

He has never.

That's something I learned in the documentary I watched.

Never.

Not his thing.

Then he was on Saturday Night Live in the 70s.

I didn't think you were allowed to feel like that.

SPEAKER_03: I think you just walked into a room and that

cocaine was in the air.

I don't think you had a choice.

SPEAKER_02: When Murphy learned that the producers of the

popular late-night comedy show Saturday Night Live were seeking

a black cast member for the 1980-81 season, he jumped on the

opportunity.

He auditioned for the part six times and finally earned a place

as an extra on the show.

Murphy appeared sporadically throughout the season until one

fateful night when producers realized they had four minutes

of airtime remaining and no material.

They pushed Murphy before the camera and told him to do a

stand-up routine.

His improvised performance was called Masterful by Rolling

Stone, and Murphy became one of only two cast members, along

with Joe Piscopo, asked to return the next season.

Remember Joe Piscopo?

I do.

He kind of fell away too.

Is he still alive?

I have no idea.

I'll check.

Okay.

Murphy became Saturday Night Live's strongest comedic

presence, creating such memorable characters as Mr.

Robinson.

Um, an older version of the little rascals character, Bucky.

I loved his Bucky.

He is still alive.

Oh, okay.

Oh.

All right.

Yeah.

I love the Bucky character.

Yeah.

Um, and an illiterate convict and poet named Tyrone Green.

He lived in the apartment.

He also continued his skillful impersonations, adding Bill

Cosby, Muhammad Ali, James Brown, Jerry Lewis, and Stevie

Wonder to his repertoire.

Murphy received criticism for his satirical characterizations

based on black stereotypes.

I'm just gonna leave that there.

He defended his performances, claiming that his characters

were far too absurd and abstract to be taken seriously.

SPEAKER_03: You have to get the joke.

SPEAKER_02: Exactly.

That there's a running theme here.

Um, despise his important role in the show's history, Murphy

distanced himself from SNL for decades after leaving the cast

and never appeared as a guest host, partly because of a 1995

joke by then cast member David Spade at the actor's expense.

During a Hollywood minute sketch, Spade showed a photo of

Murphy and quipped, Look, children, it's a falling star.

Make a wish.

SPEAKER_03: Oh, David Spade, not good.

SPEAKER_02: The comment was reportedly referencing the poor

box offers performance of Murphy's film Vampire in

Brooklyn, which that is fair.

I'm the biggest thing that ever came off that show.

The show would have been off the air if I didn't go back on the

show.

And now you have somebody from the cast making a crack about my

career, Murphy said later.

And I did the whole neck thing while I read that.

He and Spade eventually reconciled, and Murphy returned

to the show for 40th and 50th anniversary specials in 2015 and

2025.

SPEAKER_03: I mean, you kind of have to take the joke.

Like that's the whole point of the fucking show.

SPEAKER_02: Exactly.

They make fun of everybody.

SPEAKER_03: I mean, look what they did to poor Scarlett

Johansson.

SPEAKER_02: I know.

SPEAKER_03: She's such a trooper.

She is such a that was that was pretty brutal with her being

there.

SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05: Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Um, by then he had cemented a legacy as a bona fide

movie star.

In 1982, Murphy received a Grammy nomination for a live

album of fresh stand-up material called Eddie Murphy Comedian.

The album eventually went gold.

With his star power brighter than ever, Murphy decided it was

time to give the big screen a try.

Later that same year, at the age of 21, Murphy landed his first

major motion picture role alongside Nick Nulty in 48

hours.

I had no idea he was only 21 in that movie.

Like that's he's just a little kid.

Yeah.

He approached the role with confidence and ingenuity, um,

convincing director Walter Hill to adjust some of the dialogue

to more genuinely depict a black speaker.

His charming and inspired performance as the fast-talking

convict stole the film and 48 hours grossed over 5 million in

its first week.

Murphy followed this success with the 1930s style Farce

Trading Places.

Um, playing alongside fellow SNL Dan Aykroyd, Murphy Streetwise

Billy Ray Valentine becomes the victim, then the victor, of two

Wall Street moguls, short-sighted but um Paramount

Pictures proceeded to sign the 23-year-old to a$25 million

contract for six pictures, which is a lot back then, but can you

imagine an actor doing six movies for$25 million now?

No, they do they don't even do one movie for that.

No.

Um Murphy's next film, Beverly Hills Cup, uh, in 1984, hit

number nine on the list of all-time box office hits.

He played bad boy, good cop, Axel Foley, a role originally

slated for Sylvester Stallone.

That would not have worked.

That's a different direction.

That would not have been the same movie.

That's a different direction.

His performance was a hit with fans and earned him uh the actor

or earned him a Golden Globe nomination.

Murphy went on to make Beverly Hills Cop 2 in 1987, which

received mixed reviews from critics, but major rewards from

the box office.

Another sequel, Beverly Hills Cop 3, appeared in 1994, and

proof of the franchise enduring legacy.

The series was revived in 2024 with the direct sequel Beverly

Hills Cop Axl F.

The latter featured legacy actors such as Murphy and Judge

Reinhold, um, alongside new faces, including Joseph Gordon

Levitt and Kevin Bacon.

SPEAKER_03: I don't know that I would say those are new faces.

SPEAKER_02: The new one, I can't remember.

Another highlight of Murphy's early acting career was the

romantic comedy Coming to America in 1988, co-starring

Arsenio Hall.

In the film, both Murphy and Hall were able to demonstrate

their comedic versatility by playing multiple characters.

Audiences loved Murphy's performances, and the movie

became a box office smash, grossing more than 128 million

in the United States.

But some of Murphy's other efforts of this period,

including The Golden Child, which I like that movie, and his

directorial debut, Harlem Knights, were deemed failures by

critics and audiences alike.

In 1990, Murphy starred in the sequel to 48 Hours, titled

Another 48 Hours.

The second film did not perform as well as the first, and Murphy

decided to take a break from the Hollywood scene.

SPEAKER_03: Heard.

SPEAKER_02: And that's the Gen X stuff of Eddie Murphy.

Of course, there's a million things more, but Shrek.

The naughty professor.

Yeah.

unknown: Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Well, that was fun.

That was fun.

I had a really good time doing that.

SPEAKER_03: Good.

Yeah.

That was fun.

Thanks.

Hi, uh.

I was gonna say something and I totally lost it.

Menopause brain.

SPEAKER_02: It's because you put your took your piggy tails out.

SPEAKER_03: I know.

That was it.

My brain was like, no more today.

This means we're done.

It's bedtime, right?

The piggy tails are out.

No, I'm just gonna think.

I just wasn't, I would I guess I didn't really follow ever really

comedians.

SPEAKER_02: I was always into stand-up, but my dad was, so but

Eddie Murphy, what was the one before Raw?

SPEAKER_03: Don't know.

Shit.

Talk amongst yourselves.

SPEAKER_02: Delirious.

unknown: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: Yes.

Eddie Murphy's delirious.

I would say I was probably about 14 or 15 the first time I

watched that.

I was spending the night at my friend Carolyn's house.

SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say, I can't imagine that would have

been allowed in your house.

SPEAKER_02: And her parents went to bed and we stayed up to watch

TV and we watched it, and I must have watched it a thousand times

after that.

That's the one with the ice cream in and the big brown shark

came in the bathtub.

I don't know what my issue is.

SPEAKER_03: I don't know what my issue is with comedians.

I never really have.

Even now, I don't that's funny.

SPEAKER_02: That's something I never realized about you, but

yeah, it's true.

I don't.

And I like if I'm home and I can't find something to watch,

I'll put a stand-up comedian on to see.

You know, if they're not funny, I turn them off.

SPEAKER_03: But I mean, I like comedy, don't get me wrong.

Right.

I don't know what it I don't know.

I'm weird.

Who knows?

It's okay.

Who knows what the fuck's wrong with me?

The list is too long.

Can I tell you what was wrong with me?

I forgot in the middle.

I remembered what horrible thing happened to me today.

And I mean not only that I had a frog leap at me out of nowhere,

but Oh, that's not the story?

No.

SPEAKER_02: Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_03: No, that's not even the worst part of today.

The frog leaping at me from the roof of my mail truck.

That's very upsetting.

Anyhow, was uh well I saw a snake the other day.

Huh?

That sounds premeditated.

It was premeditated.

Well, one of my coworkers said that the reptiles are after me.

Technically, frogs are an amphibian, but I didn't correct

him on that.

Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, I had a snake come after me the other day.

I mean, not really.

I was in the truck.

He was on the road.

Yes, he totally can't.

And I think he was dead.

But anyway, still he could have only been there for one reason.

Yeah, and that was to scare me to death.

Exactly.

Any who's today I got done work early and I was like, oh, I'm so

very hungry.

I am gonna go to Arby's because there's no Arby's down here, but

there is one in Lewis, and I was like, I'm gonna go.

And there's only one thing that I will eat at Arby's, and that

is a ham and Swiss.

And they took the ham and Swiss away for a little while, and

then the ham and Swiss is back.

So I was like, I really, and then I was like, oh, I don't

feel like biting the traffic, blah, blah, blah.

But then I was like, no, I do want it.

So I take myself to the Arby's because they have the meats, and

I get in my line, which there's never a line there, but anyway,

I da-da-da.

I pull into the parking spot, I open my sandwich, and it looks

weird, and it smelled weird, and I was like, what is weird about

this sandwich?

Like, this doesn't, I don't know about this sandwich.

And I was smelling it and I was like, it doesn't, but I ate it

because I'm a garbage human being.

And you paid for it.

And I pay and I'm not going back through the line.

No, I'm not going in and being like, something's wrong with

this because I couldn't pinpoint what was wrong with it until I

had about four bites left.

Because the whole time I'm eating it, I'm very disappointed

because I want a ham and Swiss and something is clearly off

about this ham and Swiss.

And trust me, I can tell the difference between ham brands.

Yeah, that's how crazy I am.

Yeah.

Like I can tell.

I can tell.

I know when it's hunts and when it's hinds.

Anyway, I finally figured out what the problem was.

Do you want to know what the problem was?

It was roast beef.

No.

Worse.

It was corned beef.

Oh.

Because it did look like ham, and that's what was throwing me

off.

I was like, it looks like ham though.

I would have puked.

I don't mind corned beef.

It wasn't the sandwich I expected.

So and you didn't get food poisoning.

I mean, it was literally like three and a half hours ago.

So I don't know.

SPEAKER_02: Oh, it takes six hours for that to kick.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah.

So I don't know.

I could die, but I'm 99% sure it was corned beef.

Oh my god, that's disgusting.

I didn't even know they had corned beef, but I guess they do

because they probably have Rubens.

And then, well, then I wasn't sure.

Did I order wrong?

Because I don't go to Arby's very often.

So then I was like, I ordered a number 13.

Is a number 13 like not what I wanted?

Like, did I order incorrectly?

SPEAKER_02: I know.

I always doubt myself.

Too that happened to me.

I always blame myself over.

Oh, I order chicken cheesesteak from my favorite place.

Like typically every payday, I order this um a chicken

cheesesteak and fries from this place.

And I got a beef, which is fine.

I like beef, but I love their chicken cheesesteaks.

SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm saying.

And I was like, I must have hit the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_02: I didn't even go back and check.

I just assumed it was my fault.

SPEAKER_03: I was fully prepared for a ham and Swiss sandwich.

And what I got was a corned beef and Swiss.

Or two different things.

Yes.

But very similar if they come from Arby's.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, that is true.

Yeah.

It's not quality ham and it's not quality corned beef.

SPEAKER_02: So Arby's is the only roast beef that I will eat.

SPEAKER_03: I don't like beef.

I probably would have gone in if it was roast beef and been like,

I don't know if I fuck this up because I don't come to Arby's

very often.

But so you literally couldn't have even eaten roast beef, no.

I can't eat roast beef sandwiches.

SPEAKER_02: I can't eat anything roast beef, but theirs.

It's weird.

It's so good.

Anyway.

But it depends on if they cut it right.

Some stores cut it really thin, which is what I like, and some

cut it too thick, and then I don't like it.

SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can see that.

Yeah.

I don't mind corned beef.

Wasn't what I was prepared for.

It's not what I was prepared to eat.

SPEAKER_02: Okay.

SPEAKER_03: So now I'm sad.

Same here.

SPEAKER_02: I don't mind a beef cheesesteak.

SPEAKER_03: It's just what I was prepared for.

Wasn't what I was prepared for.

All right.

Well, everybody, thanks for listening.

Yes, thanks for humoring me about my dead eagle and my

corned beef sandwich.

That was not ham.

It's not even the same animal.

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