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#91 | Porsche AG Deep Dive | 911 Problems but the Story Ain't One

Porsche, once the undisputed profit engine of the automotive world, is facing its most serious challenge yet. Following a staggering 92.7% collapse in operating profit, the brand is navigating what analysts call its Nokia Moment, a struggle to reconcile mechanical excellence with a rapidly evolving EV market.

In this deep dive, we explore the turbulent history of the silver crest, from its controversial origins and the revolution of the 1990s to the financial derivatives of 2008. We analyze the leadership shift under new CEO Michael Leiters and the bold Strategy 2035 pivot, which sees the brand leaning back into combustion engines to protect its legendary margins.

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1 SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another TDI Premium Deep Dive.

The company we'll be discussing today has a very rich history

that is down almost 70% since its IPO in 2023.

Imagine you're standing in a dimly lit, hypermodern press

room in Stuttgart on a beautiful morning.

The air is thick with the scent of expensive espresso and the

unspoken tension of a multi-billion euro crisis.

At the front of the room, Dr.

Michael Lithers steps towards the microphone.

He's a man who's navigated the high-stakes engineering worlds

of Ferrari and McLaren, but he's only 70 days into his tenure as

the CEO of Porsche.

He is already being asked to perform an autopsy on what Medi

considered the most catastrophic financial year in the brand's

modern history.

Behind him, a slide displays.

A number that seems almost impossible for a company that

was, just a few years ago, the undisputed profit engine of the

automotive world.

An operating profit of just 413 million euros.

That doesn't sound bad, right?

Well, to put that in perspective, that was almost a

93% drop from the previous year.

For every euro they were making just 24 months ago, they're now

scraping together pennies.

This is where our story starts.

We're not just looking at a regular car company.

We're looking at a cultural icon that has spent the last century

trying to outrun its own history, while simultaneously

selling that history as its primary product.

To understand how Porsche ended up here and whether it can find

its way back, we have to look past the polished chrome and the

leather stitch dashboards.

We have to look at the human messiness, the family feuds,

geopolitical traps, and the engineering gamble that divines

Porsche.

Let's take a drive through Memory Road and discuss Porsche.

That's when an engineer named Ferdinand Porsche opened a small

consulting firm in Stuttgart.

Ferdinand was a man obsessed with technical perfection, a

trait he sharpened at Daimler.

But in the 1930s, technical perfection required a patron,

and the patron Ferdinand found was none other than Adolf

Hitler.

This is the dark side of the story that marketing brochures

rarely mention.

Ferdinand was tasked with creating the Volkswagen Beetle,

the People's Car, a project designed to be the industrial

pride of the Nazi regime.

The engineering was by all accounts brilliant.

The torsion bar suspension Ferdinand patented in 1931

became a cornerstone of automotive design.

But during the war, that brilliance was turned towards

the machinery of death.

Volkswagen's factories were repurposed for military

production, and they were built on the backs of forced labor,

including Jewish prisoners.

When the war ended, Ferdinand Porsche was arrested by the

French for war crimes and spent over a year in prison.

It's 1947.

Germany is in ruins.

The Porsche family name is associated with the shadows of

the 20th century Darkest chapter.

Ferdinand is in prison, and his son Ferry Porsche is left to

pick up the pieces in a converted sawmill in Gmund,

Austria.

This was the brand's first valley of death.

With no big factory and no assembly line, Ferry asked the

question that would divine the next 75 years.

Why don't we just build our own car?

That first car, the Pors 356, was built using Beetle Parts

because that was all they had.

It wasn't beautiful.

It was simple, efficient, but beautifully balanced.

It was a sports car, born of necessity.

By the time Ferdinand was released from prison, he saw a

car that bore his name, not as a consultant he started out with,

but as a manufacturer.

The proceeds from early contracts were literally used to

post bail for the elder Ferdinand.

This was a company built on survival instinct, an important

trait they would need again and again.

By the early 1960s, the 356 was getting old.

The company needed something new.

And what they got was the 911, introduced in 1963.

If you're an investor, the 911 is the most fascinating case

study in brand equity, perhaps ever.

Originally called the 901, the name was only changed because

Peugeot had a trademark on car names with a zero in the middle.

Think about the discipline required to keep a design

essentially unchanged for over 60 years.

Porsche understood early on that in the luxury world, continuity

is a form of currency.

They did not reinvent the 9-11, they refined it.

And this consistency created a mode of brand loyalty that few

other car manufacturers can match.

Even today, over two-thirds of all Porsches ever made are still

on the road.

I mean, that's a testament to engineering.

It's a statistic that supports the resale value and the

scarcity myth that allows Porsche to charge premium

prices.

But while the 9-11 was becoming an icon, the family behind it

was becoming a battlefield.

In the early 1970s, the third generation of Porsche and Piech

families, the descendants of Ferdinand's son and Ferry, and

his daughter Louise were essentially at each other's

throats for control.

The friction was cultural as much as it was professional.

Ferry sent his children to creative Waldorf schools.

Louise sent hers to militaristic boarding schools.

The clash between creative Porscheus and Militant reached

such a fever pit that in 1972 the family made a radical

decision.

They would all withdraw from day-to-day management and hire

professional managers.

This move likely saved the company from imploding, but it

didn't end the rivalry.

One family member, Ferdinand Piech, would go on to become the

chairman of Volkswagen, turning it into a global giant, and

eventually leading the charge to absorb Porsche itself.

The dynamic between these families is the human messiness

that makes Porsche's corporate governance a nightmare for some

and fascination for others.

By the early 1990s, the icon was failing.

In 1992, Porsche sold just 14,000 cars, down from over

50,000 cars just a few years earlier.

The company was losing$150 million a year, and the

production process was an absolute disaster.

Cars were being hand-built in inefficient ways that didn't

scale.

They were a niche manufacturer in a world that was moving

towards mass market efficiency.

Enter Wendelin Wiedeking in 1993.

Wiedeking didn't look for answers in Germany.

He looked to Japan.

He brought in consultants, former Toyota manufacturing

experts, who were appalled by what they saw.

They described the Sufenhausen factory not as a car plant, but

as a rust-covered death trap for capital.

Wiedeking performed a lean revolution.

He sought the factory storage shelves in half to force a

reduction in inventory.

He slashed assembly time from 120 hours to 72 hours and

reduced defects by 50%.

But his most controversial move was the product itself.

He realized that to save the 9-11, Porsche had to build a car

that purists hated.

The Cayenne SUV.

The Cayenne was the ultimate anti-PR move.

The Cayenne was the ultimate anti-PR move.

It was an SUV from a sports car company.

It shared parts with Volkswagen.

It was blasphemy.

But financially it was a very good move.

The Cayenne provided the high margin cash flow that funded the

next generation of sports cars.

It proved that Porsche could move into new categories without

losing its soul.

Provided the engineering remained Stuttgart Great.

Flush with cash from the Cayenne and the Boxster, Porsche did

something truly insane in 2008.

While the global financial system was melting down,

Porsche's management attempted a David vs.

Goliath takeover of the much larger Volkswagen Group.

They did this through complex financial derivatives, quietly

accumulating a 74% stake in Volkswagen.

When they finally revealed their hand on October 26, 2008, the

world realized that with the state of Lower Saxony holding

that with the state of Lower Saxony holding another 20%, only

about 5% of Volkswagen shares were actually available to

trade.

Hedge funds had been shorting Volkswagen, betting the price

would fall.

Suddenly they were trapped in what investors call the death

trap.

Volkswagen stock exploded from 210 euros per share to over a

thousand euros per share in just two days, briefly making

Volkswagen the most valuable company on earth.

It was a master stroke of financial engineering, but it

was also a disaster.

The credit markets froze.

Porsche couldn't refinance the debt they used to build the

position.

And in a poetic bit of corporate drama, Volkswagen ended up

buying Porsche to save it from insolvency.

The Predator had become prey.

By 2012, Porsche was fully integrated into the Volkswagen

Group, a move that set the stage for shared platforms and massive

scale.

Fast forward to today, if 2008 was a crisis of ambition, 2025

was a crisis of reality.

Porsche's operating profits didn't just dip but they

vanished, falling over 93% to just 400 million euros.

Deliveries dropped over 10% from 310,000 deliveries to just

280,000 deliveries.

Net cash flow dropped another staggering 60%.

So what happened here?

Well, before we discuss that, we have to talk about China.

For years, China was Porsche's gold mine, but in 2025, that

gold mine went dry.

Deliveries in China slumped by 26%, and the reason is simple.

Chinese consumers aren't just impressed by mechanical

excellence anymore.

Nowadays they want software-defined vehicles,

digital cockpits, and high-level autonomous driving, areas where

Porsche has been lagging behind local rifles like BuyD, Xiaomi,

or even Tesla.

Analysts are even comparing Porsche to Nokia.

They are so focused on making the world's best steering feel

that they forget to make the world's best operating system.

But the China slump was just one piece of the puzzle.

The company also took a massive 4 billion euro extraordinary

charge.

Think of this as the management kitchen sinking.

Every bad decision they've made over the last three years into a

single report.

Things like rescheduling platforms, lifecycle extensions,

provisions for Sell Force restructuring, battery

development, and a direct hit from the Trump tariffs.

For years Porsche had been shouting that it was going all

in on electric vehicles, targeting an 80% share by 2030.

But the market had other ideas.

The demand for ultra-luxury EVs slowed down, while the demand

for the iconic 9-11, which still runs on gas, remained at record

highs.

One of the biggest friction points for investors was Oliver

Bloom's dual role.

He was the CEO of Porsche and the CEO of the entire Volkswagen

Group.

Imagine trying to run a high-performance athletic wear

brand while simultaneously trying to fix a struggling

global department store chain.

Investors were vocal, they felt Porsche was being treated like a

side hustle.

By 2025, the pressure buildup became unsustainable.

With Porsche's profits cratering and Volkswagen facing 50,000 job

cuts and plant closures in Germany, the board finally

relented.

Effective January 1, 2026, Bloom stepped down as Porsche CEO to

focus on Volkswagen, and Michael Leaders was brought in to save

the brand.

Now Leaders is a technical heavy hitter.

He was the CTO of Ferrari and the CEO of McLaren.

He is not a PR guy, he's a product guy.

His arrival signals a retreat from the EV at all cost

strategy, and his first major move is called Strategy 2035.

This is a fundamental recalibration of the company.

The goal is to make Porsche leaner, faster, and more

desirable.

In Leaders' world, desirable does not necessarily mean

electric.

One of the most telling examples is Project K1.

This is the planned 7-seater flagship SUV.

Originally, it was going to be electric only, but in September

2025, leaders made a bold choice.

The K1 will now launch in 2028 with V6 and V8 combustion

engines.

They are literally going back to the future to protect their

profit margins.

This is value over volume in action.

In China, Porsche is doing something almost unheard of.

They are shrinking.

Instead of fighting a price war with Chinese manufacturers,

Porsche is cutting its dealership network by 30%,

dropping from 150 outlets to just 80 in 2026.

As the pie shrinks, the number of diners at the table must be

reassessed.

This is a move to keep the brand exclusive.

If you can't sell 100k cars, you sell 40k and make sure the

profit per car stays as high as possible.

But this is a dangerous game.

Dealers in some cities have already closed, leaving

customers stranded and staff unpaid.

There is a revolt brewing that could damage the brand's

reputation for years.

If you're looking at Porsche stock, you have to decide what

you're buying.

Are you buying a luxury brand like Ferrari?

Or a premium brand like Mercedes?

We think Porsche is more of a premium brand, not really a

luxury brand.

For example, in a tough year of 2025, Ferrari has achieved EBIT

margins of almost 30%, while Porsche has achieved EBIT

margins of just 1%.

Even if we compare this to another premium player like

Mercedes, they achieved EBIT margins in 2025 of around 12%.

The market currently views Porsche as more Mercedes than

Ferrari, and we think that's a fair assessment.

Porsche is now being forced to prove that its road to 20

program, the goal of a 20% operating margin, is still

possible.

Leaders is betting on the ultra-luxury niche.

He wants to build models above the 9-11 that command even

higher prices through customization.

This is basically the Ferrari playbook.

Sell fewer cars, but make each one unique.

Management is asking for patience, calling 2026 a year of

recalibration.

They expect revenue to stay flat while they work through the

restructuring costs.

The dividend has been slashed as well.

And we can talk about a leaner, faster Porsche without talking

about the people.

To hit that targets, Porsche is cutting almost 2,000 jobs by

2029 and letting 2,000 temporary contracts expire.

This is part of a broader failure at the Volkswagen Group

level, which plans to cut a staggering 50,000 jobs in

Germany by 2030.

For a company that once prided itself on being a family

business, the atmosphere has turned toxic.

The worker councils are ready for demonstrations, and the

management is holding on to power while profits evaporate.

A demoralized engineering team cannot build the world's best

cars.

So where does that leave us?

Porsche is a company defined by its ability to survive.

It survived the wreckage of 1945, the inefficiency of 1992,

and the financial overreach of 2008.

But the crisis of 2026 is different.

This is not just a financial crisis, but a crisis of

identity, which is exactly what you're selling as a premium or

luxury brand.

Porsche is no longer competing against Ferrari on a racetrack.

They are competing against Silicon Valley on software and

China on EVs.

They are trying to sell a mechanical soul in a world

looking for digital convenience.

Strategy 2035 is a pragmatic retreat.

By leaning back into gas engines and hybrids, Michael Leaders is

giving the brand room to breathe.

For now.

He's acknowledging that Porsche must first and foremost be a

Porsche, regardless of what powers it.

If you're an investor, the question is whether you believe

in the exclusivity mode and the transition.

If Porsche can successfully move into the ultra-luxury segment

and fix its software issues, the current stock price looks like

an absolute bargain.

But if they are truly entering the Nokia moment, the brand

itself will not fix the issue.

Then even the most efficient V8 will not save the company.

The 911 million shares on the balance sheets are a small

reminder of the brand's history.

But as Michael Leader stands on that podium, he knows history is

a heavy thing to carry.

The silver crest is still a symbol of excellence, but in

2026, excellence is being redefined.

Porsche's task is to prove they're the ones writing the

definition.

Drive carefully until the next deep dive.

As always, stay curious, keep learning, and happy investing.

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