Party of One Says Go Birds (LIVE) - Ring Goons with Patrick Kenny
Pat is one of the hosts of Fool of a Took, a Lord of the Rings podcast taking the books one chapter at a time. He is also, coincidentally, one of my oldest and dearest friends.
Naturally, we got deep in the Tolkien sauce in a game of Ring Goons, an Tunnel Goons hack about traversing Middle-Earth on grand and epic quests.
Recorded live at Unity Java in Philadelphia, PA!
FOOL OF A TOOK: https://www.youtube.com/@FoolofaTookPodcast
RING GOONS: https://bob-bibleman.itch.io/ring-goons
ALL MY FANTASY CHILDREN: https://moonshotpods.com/all-my-fantasy-children/
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[SPEAKER_00]: Never say that, but we're gonna live both Hello and go first!
[SPEAKER_03]: this is party of one says go birds a monthly celebration of my two favorite things in the world table top role playing games in the city of brotherly love I am Jeff Stormer this is party of one a two player podcast about getting to know people through the shared universal act of play and today I am sitting down with somebody that I don't need to get to know because I was trying to put a number to how long we have known each other as people and it was upsetting the number was upsetting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sending out Patrick Kenny Pat thanks so much for sitting down with me Jeff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am so excited to be here I think the actual number is 25.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was gonna say about a quarter cent jury sounds right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not bad There's a lot of ways to phrase it that don't sound like the don't sound good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff and I in that late in the last millennium Yep, yeah, yep, that's another good way to put it When there was a one on the calendar.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good way to think of it
[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to sit with that for a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: We let's all sit with it for a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: How's the back pain doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually just starting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that's depressing question.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sitting with the pillow right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, there's a reason that I asked it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I'm so excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we have the object that's in front of us that truly has me unwell.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will talk about it a bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: But before we do that, why don't you take a moment and let our lovely listeners at home know about what you've got going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want them to know about.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I don't Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, when I said I sometimes, yeah, anyway, this is very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked to you about the podcast that you host.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be wonderful.
[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the reasons I'm here is because I turn 40, and I'm just a generic guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So of course I have a podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: We all do.
[SPEAKER_02]: A buddy of mine went to Scotland.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, I want to read Lord of the Rings, but I'm not going to do it alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he said, Pat, do you want to read Lord of the Rings, yes?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he grabbed his wife and she's in and the Lord heard a bad at with my wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the four of us got together, Fulva took is a chapter by chapter read through of the Lord of the Rings for entry-level people, no spoilers.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a drunk book club.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've like 44 episodes on YouTube right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've gone up through the end of the two towers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Third season is getting rolling now for the return of the king.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be a blast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love doing it so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so glad to be on your podcast specifically Jeff and I don't know if anyone else has done this for you before But I got a tattoo for this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so excited about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I can safely say that's a first Yeah, which we've been you know when the with the show is 10 years old.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not it's not easy to get a first and so that is very impressive Would you like to see it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't even show it in public great I'm glad that you said that after asking if I wanted to see it to be clear
[SPEAKER_03]: God, that fox, that rips.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's real good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So before we came here, we went to the Philadelphia tattoo convention.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my brother, Dr. Goond, me into getting something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got the tree of Gondor on my left arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: First tattoo, I got it on a whim about an hour ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited that that's the energy that you're bringing to the game that we're sitting down to play.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like post, I feel like post immediately after a tattoo is the level of vulnerability that I would all of my guests to have.
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, we might just make this part of the process moving forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm about for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think let, you know, I think it gives a lasting reminder of the experience that we shared.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are sitting down to a appropriately enough, the object that I mentioned is a full-scale map of Middle-Earth that is laid out before us.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is for the 1992 role-playing game, Middle-Earth role-playing, which I have an entire story about.
[SPEAKER_03]: The copyright here says in 1989.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am so excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're sitting down to play ringgoons, which is a hack of tunnel guns, which is a very lightweight minimalist adventure game set in middle-earth, about like adventuring in middle-earth.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got this map in front of us, and we've got our characters rolled up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to ask you like, and I think broadly I want to ask you this is a two-part question.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was your first, like, what was your first experience with Lord of the Rings and what has kept you coming back to it year over year over year?
[SPEAKER_02]: That is an awesome question.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's one of the reasons I love doing the podcast so much because for me, the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit were like a family affair.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Hobbit was the summer book that my mother would read to us on vacation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like we get a chapter a night as the kids and we all go to bed and it was amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a little older.
[SPEAKER_02]: She started doing Lord of the Rings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Totally become like an annual reread.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then because I just couldn't get enough of it and because, you know, the movies were a distant dream for short.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I would read the Lord of the Rings multiple times and then you get into like all the other source of material you get into some of them You get into all the fun stuff and it's just wild and it's this huge beautiful Deep world Totally honestly when they came out with the movies some of the best movies ever made.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I Stand by that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean they are
[SPEAKER_03]: It is cliche to say they don't make them like that anymore and maybe I say that partially because I've seen enough of the side-by-side photos of what happens when a giant corporation makes a Lord of the Rings thing now versus what they made in 2000 but um they are there's a level of like craft and Intentionality and like handmade energy to those movies that I think like as a pure film guy I look at it and I go like man
[SPEAKER_03]: Do movies are good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I mean, that's how it's standing because it just kind of like juiced Lord of the rings It's totally into mainstream and I think turning 40 in this world has been real weird in a lot of ways But sure has as a as I like a died in the wool nerd the fact that like okay The nerds have money now and now we get to spend things so we drive culture a little bit Yep, it's been amazing like 15-year-old me could not imagine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh sure you do this
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but the thing I love about Lord of the Rings is that it is so deep.
[SPEAKER_02]: The writing is amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a classic for a reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: The intentionality of Tolkien's writing, the language, the story, the depth of the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's unimaginable.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love sharing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love exploring it and I fucking love maps.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do love a good map, this map I'm staring at.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think maps are the thing that I fell in love with long before I fell in love with any specific fantasy thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just going like, oh, there's some woods there and a mountain fuck yeah, I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because like a map allows you to contextualize so many things in a fantasy setting or any world.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the first time I could tell you the first time I had a specific experience.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was six years old.
[SPEAKER_03]: and it was the silver chair.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yo.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is the first time the experience happened when I opened a book and the first thing that you see in the book is a drawn-out map and the way my shot, I still at 30 million years old, remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: The experience of building a book.
[SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck?
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a map?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh fuck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, like for me, I grew up loving history too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so for me being able to like having things on a map like sort of legitimizes it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really, really does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: It creates, you know, the idea that you can hang stuff from this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it creates empty spaces.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hold 100% and and what you do with those spaces, you fill them.
[SPEAKER_02]: You put stuff there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's that's what I love and hate about the mapper staring at right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much beige with nothing in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So much blank.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really it's breathtaking.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's exciting and terrifying and like and it's great because this scale of it, you know, I can look at a blank as well and go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's 100 miles of empty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because the the map we're looking at is the entirety of middle earth in the north and the west and all the way out east of Run like a throw you Lord of the Rings folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are all the way from the western sea all the way out to the sea of ruin and past Mortor and all the rest of it It is everything you could ever want to see and there are so so good labeled places.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm unwell And can I tell you I'm
[SPEAKER_03]: I asked you today because the game that we're playing Rengun specifically states that travel is not an abstract thing and that you should have a full-scale map of Middle Earth for you to look at.
[SPEAKER_03]: I asked you today, I was like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have a map of middle-earth that you can bring to this recording?
[SPEAKER_03]: And you, you saw me in that question and I was like, of course I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew the answer was yes, but like you have to ask it, like I can't just be like bring one of your maps of middle-earth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that, that is an, an objectively insane request.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, but I'm the answer was yes, but I can't say it like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm glad you thought to add more context because this was not my first choice, or even my second third or so funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have so many maps, but this was the one where you like, we should be able to fold it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should be like a travel map.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could not have known this when you grabbed this specific map, uh, or maybe you have we've been friends for long enough and uh, talked about these things that you might know, do you know my first experience with both role playing games as an art form and also my first experience with the, the works of JR talking, no it is the iron crown enterprises 1989 role playing a middle-earth role playing so sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: My brothers and I found at a yard sale in Oklahoma, a worn copy of this game.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we had all been video game players.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had played video game.
[SPEAKER_03]: We were all big dragon quest fans.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like we knew we knew the concept of a role playing game from video games.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we saw a book that had role playing game on the cover and we're like, surely this is somehow connected to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we grabbed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea what a middle-earth was.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did not know what a Lord of the Rings was.
[SPEAKER_03]: I read that book cover to cover.
[SPEAKER_03]: And thus, like, and there's little summaries of, like, this is what happens in the Lord of the Rings.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, like, my first experience of the story was a two-page summary that some guy had written in a role-playing game rule book.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, A.
[SPEAKER_03]: like that, that was a very strange introduction to like a beloved state political church.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: To a point where when I finally sat down with the books, I was like, this is all very familiar.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I also kind of had the John Mulaney Quixand moment of like, thinking things were going to be bigger deals because I was like, there's a whole section of this in the roleplay.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's going on with the woes is I'm like there was supposed to be a much bigger deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had a lot of text about the woes Oh my god, I If that I love that because this these books are full that stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the one thing I cannot get anyone Also in the podcast to do is to commit to going through the appendices with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh short because
[SPEAKER_02]: Jerry, the joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jerry Tolkien, you know, they're going to remove his appendix, but that's where I keep the stories about why the dwarves hate the elves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're so much shit in there, and it's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And none of it matters.
[SPEAKER_03]: And none of it matters at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like, it was that was that that was part of a really key part of my experience with Lord of the Rings was reading it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the back of my mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this ties into like the characters we have created.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will introduce my character and then we will kind of like drive into like the actual game of the character that I'm playing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where did I put my character sheet?
[SPEAKER_03]: It is here on the floor.
[SPEAKER_03]: The character that I'm playing this is an adaptation of legitimately the first character that I've ever ever created in our role playing game.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I was learning middle-earth role playing at eight years old.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, a culture and a people of middle-earth that I assumed were a much bigger deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am playing Joseph Mayus the Water Drake.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am one of the core saires of the new Menarean Sea, because I assumed those would be like, a guy that does not just show up in one shot of a boat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they had a whole section and a cool hat and I was like those guys rule And then I read the books and it's like oh, yeah, the corsairs They've got boats on the water and then you watch the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's one shot of a boat And I was like those are my guys those are my guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's them.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the moment
[SPEAKER_03]: This is it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's over, but yeah, I saw it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They distilled them to exactly one shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: They captured everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't cheat.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Enough for Jeff to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: There they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing that actually, I think about more of the rinks that I really like.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's easy to say it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's especially easy to say it in 2025, 2026.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like,
[SPEAKER_03]: I think so much of the book and it's actually kind of uh, there is like it's one of the gaps I think in the book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, is I love how much of the book is like about the act of resisting, like the book is about anti-fascist resistance, like at its core it is about the shadow over falling and the ways that it consumes hope and the ways that it consumes culture and the ways that it like eats everything and the obligation that we have to embark and destroy and it is an adventure story, but it is also, hey, I saw some shit in the world where one that's kind of fucked with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think like.
[SPEAKER_03]: the thing that like I brought to it, especially like revisiting it a few years ago and like thinking about thinking about some of these things is like the way that like cultures get overturned like the thing I had I experienced sitting with it in 2020 this has been 20.3 2024 is like
[SPEAKER_03]: thinking about the segments of the cultures that had been overtaken, the evil peoples of middle-earth and being like, there's got to be resistance groups within those cultures.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing that I latched onto and that is this character that I was like, oh, I made this character when I was eight years old, but if I revisit him in a 40, interesting things happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the idea is Joseph Mayus is a pie is like a pirate in the legitimate, you know, outlaw of the sea's sense of, uh, blowing up other Corsair boats and like running, like running criminal operations as an outlaw on the outer edges of the sea of Numanore.
[SPEAKER_03]: because most of the other boats are under the employee of the shadow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the idea that there is like, sects of resistance among like the pirate culture, very exciting to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my pitch.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my character pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's super.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can, if you want, I can, please go forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the course here is of unbar, which you're talking about, and like something going on, don't know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're actually a breakaway state from Gondor proper.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's just been this like constant back and forth word, it's old, it's baked into the bones of everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, yeah, basically, Sauron's like everybody who's against Gondor is my people.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he gets down there, he captures a umbar sort of.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the idea that, you know, you have this decentralized, like courtsair pirate state, and that you've got a character who is just like existing on the fringes of that work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really I'm really like it was one of those things where you look at your notes and you go like man, Jeff.
[SPEAKER_03]: You eight-year-old Jeff I don't know that you you did not know what you were cooking on It's for cool But you were cooking you were cooking hands to eight-year-old Jeff
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, uh, that is that there's so much going on there with that character and there's like so it's that is Speaking to me on so many levels.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's speaking to it's a day to so many levels.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am legitimately embarrassed to talk about the character I came up with.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, this is great because like we're talking to me about the character that you are playing that like
[SPEAKER_03]: and like give me an idea of like where that character lives that like you might be meeting up with uh... josemayus for the first time you know shades of Gandalf showing up in the shire like where are we in the world where is your character living what is your character's name and deal like give me the rundown okay so um... where this character came from was part of the podcast at some point in the fellowship of the ring we looked at each other and we're like you know what would your hobbit name be
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and you know, I, we, we handed each other some really insightful and fun stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I gave my wife like the name, like, hard heart or something because she loves to bake and she's very sweet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she looks around at the thrust of the people and she goes, you know who Pat is?
[SPEAKER_02]: Pat's a long-winded Mac.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really fucking funny, you know what you got it, you know what you got it, I mean I didn't I'm not saying she was wrong It's just it was she cut to the heart of who I am and understood it It's only someone who's known me for 20 years sometimes you get seen in a way that you're like, yeah, you've you've you've got me I can't I can't refute this You just have to like go take a walk.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and
[SPEAKER_02]: on the upside, it's captured on video on YouTube, so it'll be there forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great, so I bring to you long-winded Mac.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great, he's sort of this like Hobbit who really wants to be like an adventurer, but probably thinks he knows more than he does because he reads a lot of books about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's got just enough going on just enough like experience to where he isn't died doing any little things he does, but he's also somebody who definitely doesn't wanna sleep outdoors three nights in a room.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, totally.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like you mentioned you said that to me before we got on like and like I think that's the crux of our characters friendship Because like if you're on a boat That's kind of sleeping inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: It really is and it's so exciting.
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea that like you got that like we have worked Done some kind of job together in the past Like and even if it was a even if it was a like a little bit of a grift of like I'm gonna take you out on the water Oh my god big fish
[SPEAKER_03]: Like even if it was a way to part of fool from his money for a day or two, like there is something really fun that like we have worked together Because hey going out on the water like I get a bed, I get a room and so for like and I get from
[SPEAKER_02]: never had run before.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And being like Hobbits, like one of their cultural things is like the water is, you don't go on the wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the Lord of the Rings, Fertis parents actually drown in a river, both accident.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's not know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why he gets adopted by Bilbo in the first place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, long-winded Mac, kind of a rebel in a very gentle way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: But very excited about the wider world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very excited to do new things and to be known for it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I love the idea that you just like took him for a boat ride and that's like that's the most that's the like the thing that he loves most about his entire life Yeah, he went on a pirate adventure And it was truly I think it like hey I I this gives such a character detail to Joseph may as as like a guy that like
[SPEAKER_03]: A little bit can't resist being in the spotlight of like, yeah, I feel like, oh, this guy thinks that I'm a big cool pirate, it's the equivalent of like, you own a motorcycle and somebody thinks you're a cool biker and so you off them on the back of the bike and then drive them around the block and then pull back up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff is now saying this in contextualizing specific outings that he had with his father in his teenage years, but like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the fantasy equivalent of, we're going to go around the block.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was like, we're going to take a river for two days.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to take you to the like, we got about to, if it's the shire, we got about to hear.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then looped, we went to about airs vore, air in vore and then just kind of like came back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, we went, oh wow, so we went all the way down the river, we went all the way down the Brandy wine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Down to the coast, we saw the coast.
[SPEAKER_02]: My God, I saw the sea, you saw the sea, I saw the sea, I think I saw the blue mountains.
[SPEAKER_02]: You, they're probably then the distance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, baby, who knows?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you told me that's exactly what they were.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's exactly it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like I've seen more of the world than most hobbits ever will.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like I'm waiting, I'm so excited for my pirate friend to come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we in, are we in Bray, are we in the Shire proper?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, where is this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think like, you have gotten maybe a letter or like a messenger has come to say that like the water Drake has sought your is seeking your company.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're happening on the riverside.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it happening in a tavern?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, where do you see that conversation happen?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Bree, because I think that's a good crossroads.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got the North South Road.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a similar reason why Gandalf took the fellowship there or sent them there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the, for what it is, it's like the place to get international news.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that feels good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we have met in a bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think like, you know, uh, in terms of visuals, the, the, the face casting that I have for this character is a little bit Matthew Barry.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit like it's a little bit heavy set beard, like beard shoulder length hair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, kind of like puffy outfit of with the puffy shoulders and the little bit of the like,
[SPEAKER_03]: almost a little bit of unnecessary flourish in the way that the most devious man yes, in a bomb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I think like that's the kind of like flare.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like telling a story and I think like, you know, is in the midst of like this big interaction at when he sees you come in and kind of like drops it a little bit and like pat some people and like tears as some glasses and it's like, let us grab a table my friend.
[SPEAKER_03]: We should
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this, um, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So how, forget me, because like the game is very, it's free form.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, yeah, how do we, where do we take it from here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause do you have an idea for the story or what do you, yeah, how, how, like, tell me this, like where do you, I think, like, you get a sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: that Joe's Mays has something important to tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, all right, where are you, where are you having that conversation?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so like we are, well, because I need the authentic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we are in the main room at the tavern.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: In Bree, I have overpacked for everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: You sure?
[SPEAKER_02]: I am prepared to do absolutely anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got like three overloaded ponies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a man servant maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about whether or not he's going to come any further.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, it's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: I am so ready.
[SPEAKER_02]: I barely know what's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and um, and Longman and Mac is just somebody who who he wants to He wants this so bad It's just it's edge of my seat Tell me what what are we gonna do what what do you need why am I here?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he leans for and he's like I as you know
[SPEAKER_03]: know many things of the world and the water I have, I have lane siege to the oceans and claimed it as my terrain.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is my rightful places.
[SPEAKER_03]: King of all pirates that you see is my domain.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's my dilemma.
[SPEAKER_03]: The rest of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need someone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have, in my travels, I have, let's say,
[SPEAKER_03]: made a diplomatic parlay if you must call it that with a boat on the water and I've received a word of warning and I need someone to guide me the way that I guided you on the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you know of?
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you know of Gondor and it's a ministerit and the loyalty there in?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, having read several books, I can tell you, I actually need to talk about this for a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where in the timeline are we?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a great question.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have maybe like two pitches for where we are.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for context, the thing that you're about to learn is that like, Lord Denithore has done something dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because he's because the palentier has been whispering in his ear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: My immediate pit, the two pitches that I think immediately stand out are either
[SPEAKER_03]: in between the events of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, or in, I forget if it's 6 or 12, but in Frodo Baggins gap here.
[SPEAKER_03]: or Frodo Gaggan's Brumspray.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think honestly, like, there's a, so in the book, there's a 17 year gap between the long expected party when Bilbo leaves and Frodo gets, you know, inherited this weapon of mass destruction, and Gandalf just like fucks off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just leaves for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So in that 17 year gap is perfect, because it means like Andor still up, there's still things going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Bormir's not dead yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bormir's not dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll be in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, this is, we're right in the, we're right in the midst of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like armies are gathering on certainties in the air.
[SPEAKER_03]: Denethore is at the crowd.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like denethore is is is is is in minister earth staring in pondering his or but and like like what do you know of denethore at minister earth and gone door?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the stewards of Gondor of the ruled Gondor and as stewards for many years, many years, and they're waiting the kings of Gondor, and as you know, Gondor is the southern kingdom, and R-nor is the northern kingdom, the Shires in R-nor, so really, he's almost like Mike King, so it's very exciting.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you believe, so if I were to tell you that
[SPEAKER_03]: the steward of Gondor, one of the stewards of Gondor is a tottering old fool who is sent uh, one of the sons of the king to his assure it death.
[SPEAKER_03]: This would be new information.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're just technically the steward is the king and if he was going to do so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: I received word.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna, I'm now going to read of text.
[SPEAKER_03]: This game has like 10 different tables to roll on to generate an adventure and I'm gonna read to you the plot that we are, that we are grappling with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I love this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lord Denithor has received word from his magical palentier that he gazes into to eye the activities of the shadow, that there is an ancient blade buried in a tomb
[SPEAKER_03]: In one of the mountain ranges where there would be tombs, Angmar feels appropriate, but I was also maybe thinking by the other direction.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the mountain ranges contains a tomb that has supposedly a blade buried in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has dispatched his, he has dispatched faramere of the riders of Rohan to retrieve it, but the shadow speaks to him with lies.
[SPEAKER_03]: The tomb contains not but a terrible curse.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if he is allowed to open that tomb, a terrible fate awaits not just him, but all of the lands nearby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I love Angmar for this because Angmar is for a brief history lesson.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angmar is the in the north.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the old seat of evil.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's where the witch king is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the haunted ruins of Morgoth's mortal realm.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the nightmare thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's basically why the doonating range is exist because they have to you know, you've got to exist to kill ghosts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I feel like Angmar is really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although Erid Lewin and the mountains in the west are like the blue mountains.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got like dwarves and it's a little more interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little more civilized.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not closer to like the gray havens.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's more elvish activity out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angmar.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to scale from like one to ten.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, the blue mountains would be like a, like a, like a forcher and Angmar's like maybe more like a nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually really love it being in the blue mountains.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I love it being in the blue mountains specifically because I don't have a picture of who this, who the person, I know who the person in the tomb is or like the origin point of the tomb.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the idea that it is the former seat of the dwarves who have largely abandoned that, which if I'm remembering the blue mountains is like a former stronghold of the dwarves, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like a second to your pumpkin country at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I think that feels like whales.
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels good for like, that feels good for where I think this tomb might stay and that gives us some fun terrain to walk over and Also some fun like interactions to be had
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are we being beset upon by whatever horrors are going to beset upon us?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh my god because the game where it's like I think the game uses the words we expect you to use a Like a trademarked on the actual map with a scale.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and like this is not a game No, this is the game is now.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to look at this and say like we know where this two is
[SPEAKER_03]: It is probably about, I'm gonna put it about like at the midpoint, bright, the midpoint of the blue, or the southern midpoint of the blue mountains, on the western side, a little bit north of Lune, or the eastern side, I should say, like I think like there's about good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's about a good spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so we're gonna go right, I'm gonna put a dye there, to mark that location.
[SPEAKER_02]: That feels good.
[SPEAKER_02]: and there's a nightmare of terrain between there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, I think the other thing, like this feels good because I think it's, I'm more excited about the travel piece of this of like racing to, because now here's what other thing I'm going to put down, which is, faramere is probably departing probably a round, like, Fangorn ish.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think is where we've gotten word that he's.
[SPEAKER_03]: So faramere is the son of Danna Thorne?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So would he be departing from Minist here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, okay, great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which means we've got a rough picture of like, his route.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a long way.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a long way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like we have like, you know, it has taken time for like word to get from here to like over here in the seas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like somebody had to come out on the water, get sniped around um-ball.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then um-ball and then and then, and then Joseph May has had to come here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which means that like a good chunk of this trip has already happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I, okay, so part of me is, I like the idea that,
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe's a mess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, is he's he's also kind of like buying the shit that Mac is selling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like a little bit like he's like Mac clearly knows this country.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is his corner of the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mac knows this corner of the world in a way that I don't and knows that like Farmer is somewhere in between these two points.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so it's roughly a 1200 mile somewhere in its 1200 mile stretch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Roughly in this 1200 miles stretch of like and I think like maybe that's even I'll put this to you because I think this is a good role play moment is like
[SPEAKER_03]: he kind of lays out these details and we've got the full map of the region laid out in front of us in character and we're like we got it out we got the where would he we know that he would be traveling by horse farm here is is he and his retinue will be traveling by horse they must have left
[SPEAKER_03]: a week or two ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I would say so, and they can travel about 25, according to the rules about 25 miles a day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it's about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, oh, you know what we can do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff, we'll do the, we'll do the paper trick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get out of piece of paper.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll make a ruler.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Making a ruler.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there are rules for us
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the joy of the experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: Quick idea of.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got, what is that about?
[SPEAKER_03]: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
[SPEAKER_03]: 8, 8, 30 miles a pop.
[SPEAKER_03]: About 30 miles a pop.
[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly at about like an eight day arc he's probably made it about a hundred probably about two weeks He's probably made it about there to about here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right, so that brings him to basically the middle of Rohan He falls to road west.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna shoot the gap of Rohan south of
[SPEAKER_02]: South of my is here, or South of I'm sorry, or thank, where Saruman is, and if Saruman's not playing his games yet, because it's about 15, 20 years before the Lord of the Rings.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Saruman is probably still playing the friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, he's going to shoot the gap of Rohan and then pick up the Great Western Road, and then he's probably going to come up this way, and he's going to skirt the Shire, because there's a Western Road that's a more direct route.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then actually it's at the western end of the shire, and then probably be line through the open country, cross the Gulf of Lune, somewhere north of the north of the Great Havens, and then pop his self up into here, grab one of these ridges, and then head on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got, I mean, we've got time if we are
[SPEAKER_03]: if we're here right out there yep we've got time to intercept in a few different ways
[SPEAKER_03]: So, do you where the expert here?
[SPEAKER_03]: You tell me where we want to intercept, like Mac, tell me where we want to intercept, where we want to intercept to this party.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we are sitting in Bury, so we are approximately, he's still probably twice as far as we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we can pin it basically if we take the, if we head west through the Shire, pick up the main road, and then to take the road south, we should meet him coming north.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds, that sounds great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gather your men and we'll depart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Get, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We, time is of the essence.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, unless, unless, you know, you and your ex, and I think like, I love this idea that there's like a mutual sort of, this is like bullshitting where we're both sort of like, because I think there is a moment where he's like, unless we think that, you know, a meal and a meal and a night sleep is in order first, unless we have time to buy it, which
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, hydration is important and being well-rested is very important.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's very true and it's very very true Once we we get to a certain point.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will not we will not be on the show We should enjoy the rat.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should enjoy the comforts of civilisation while we have them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and you know I I appreciate so very much that you showed me so much of the world aboard your magnificent ship.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love
[SPEAKER_02]: for you to stay at night or two or three here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll just eat local food.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can meet some people.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be very exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when we feel properly limbered, properly lubricated, we can be on our way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because, and this is something, looking at the map, you would understand.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we go too quickly, we'll run out of road before we meet fair mirror and have to rough it across.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's entirely true.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we can delay works to our favor.
[SPEAKER_03]: It does indeed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I'm adding.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm playing this down to check a distance thing and oh boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, indeed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wonderful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Five, six, seven, eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, she's.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are counting out.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are measuring it on our map.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff, that's, um, what is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about 700 miles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great, great, great, great.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a long, that's a long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, um, that's going to take about a month.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got some time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got time to prepare.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Lord, that's a lot of rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know just enough about this game to know the number of rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have to make.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've added a dice to actually need to make it a different color of dice, because I'm adding a detail to get us to some action.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, and this is where I'm going to add, I'm going to make a character quickly to go through the character creation process.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do we have?
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a Hobbit and a man.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do we think?
[SPEAKER_03]: We want to know that we want to know that another one of these cultures and another one of the peoples of Middle-earth.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is a, this is one of, maybe, character-wise, this is one of Joseph Mayus' advanced scouts or, like, informants or, like, criminal buddies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the idea of criminal buddies.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if we get a dwarf and he plays the straight man to the bullshit?
[SPEAKER_02]: That feels good.
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels good.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... this person's name is lora what's the name of a criminal dwarf
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Gimley.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he well, he murders a lot of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does commit a lot of crime.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's actually an accomplished adventure, which is really cool because like when you get to the council of Al-Ran and you meet everybody, it's like, you don't really get a feel for who and what everybody is.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like all of the dwarves there are name takers and motherfuckers.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what I love is that
[SPEAKER_02]: my bad and then ends up joining this rag tag adventure to leave and I'm sure and I don't know how he sends a message back to his dad or even if he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I imagine there's a follow-up letter to Elrond in Rivendell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Elrond did my son ever make it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Does anyone seen Legolas?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, yes, sorry about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know you let go of them go, and he seemed really gung-ho about taking, you know, I actually can't tell you, but he's an incredible danger.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, okay, what do we got?
[SPEAKER_03]: Throw in, throw in, throw in, cloak kind of like comes like strutton in.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like I think there's a moment where like like we're two or three rounds deep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Dwarf comes in with a cloak.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like the second Joseph may as sees him his demeanor drops, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is this is this is the equivalent of like
[SPEAKER_03]: Tony Supranos seeing like one of his guys when he's out at Ardy Buco's restaurant.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, it's a little like a, why are you meeting me at my place of leisure?
[SPEAKER_03]: Throwing like sits down and it's like Enjoying the enjoying your meal gentlemen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I interrupting something?
[SPEAKER_03]: uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels very out of max to comfort someone, I think what I think
[SPEAKER_03]: Froin has is here to convey.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he sits down and he's like, you know, what, what, what do you have?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like have you have you have you have you have you have you have you have you eyes on on fairamere's trip?
[SPEAKER_03]: I know there's still about a month out.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got time to kind of rally our forces and meet them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, like, I'm not here to talk about faramere's retinue.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is another.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a second retinue.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they are much closer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mac is still probably like really starting to wonder what's going on um uncomfortable but incredibly interested oh they are there is a group um he's like uh I've kind of watched the week we saw another group
[SPEAKER_03]: to a part, you know, uh, trying to think where he would have been.
[SPEAKER_03]: Coware, where, here's the situation and you tell me like, you tell me how this person got this information or how this would have come across.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a second retinue, an unknown force out of, uh, out of or thank.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I love when you, I love when you hear from you here, you're friend and Pela, you're saying a thing and you're like, oh, yeah, we got to enter.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to interject that into some shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, there is a second company out of Warfank, also moving in the same direction and moving soifter and with a more direct intent than Farmerier, uh, who is kind of moving leisurely, not leisurely, but like covertly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is a group of very much more overtly.
[SPEAKER_03]: A second retinue is is on route to the same location.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the good news is, I think that there is, if you look at the map here, the one of the few label towns is far bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, it's here, it's a Ford on the river, it's on the road, it's an excellent choke point.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it kind of, for the geography of it, it sort of makes sense where, if it was there, the froners are, and then raced to breed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as long as he is moving faster than they are, they are still on the Western road somewhere, coming up to the border of the Shire, which means we have to race the 100 miles across the Shire in order to find the ship before they leave the road and go off into the wilderness and we'll never find it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels great.
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels, there's our, there's our hook, there's our immediate, oh god.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, like, I think Joseph Mayson has an immediate, like, all right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we head out at first like, gather your men, gather your weapons, and we ready for battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Battle?
[SPEAKER_03]: Battle?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so... B-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m
[SPEAKER_02]: very well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay Matt, you could do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, the max got a problem because he would have absolutely overpacked three of the fattest cheapest money he could have found.
[SPEAKER_02]: So these are not going to be a horse race across the shy area.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, suddenly he has nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does have a little bit of money, so he can possibly trade the ponies for maybe a slightly faster pony myself and Mr. Frowan, I assume we will not be walking.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh yeah fro it there's a mechanic where you can spend you have your means of living uh this is not in one-to-one purchase but you can spend it for like large purchases and I think like froin is like I have secured us I have secured us the horses oh my god uh sorry sorry thank you
[SPEAKER_03]: Horses.
[SPEAKER_03]: Heard his horse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't add, you know, they, they will get us there and back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they will get us there and then we'll leisurely walk back.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mac was absolutely not planning on bankrupting himself on this, so that is a huge sigh of relief.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think for Owen spent one of his means, one of his means on like a set of three.
[SPEAKER_03]: the book specifically in like one of their examples of play is like somebody spent a means for by like a fine writing horse that will get them somewhere and i'm like i'm doing the equivalent of doing that but buying three horses yeah okay so they're not great horse right but he's also like a pirate's axe band yeah so okay all right so okay so that's a big
[SPEAKER_02]: But Mac is still kind of like a little fish out of water, definitely expected some leisurely fun time, some bullshit story, some fireplace stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And okay, murdered dwarf comes out of the woodwork and says we got a roll.
[SPEAKER_02]: Back you can do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what you've wanted you could do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, very well So first light first light first light.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I will get us some rooms.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds great Well rest here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think like I think he pauses.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think like I think Joe's a may as pauses for a moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: It goes like Well we could spend the money on the room so are
[SPEAKER_03]: We could eat, drink and stay in authentic adventurers and lodgings.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, to tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have spent one of my means before sitting now for character creation on like a small crude boat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I think he's like on the river.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the one that you wrote on once and he's like When we could spend the money on a place to sleep or I could sleep on my boat Which is that's fast?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's still probably 25 miles.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, then never mind that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, take that back.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's leaving the end tonight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very well
[SPEAKER_03]: and then we'll stop at the boat.
[SPEAKER_03]: We should hit the boat first.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll gather what supplies that we can.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's on the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can use that as a way point to kind of anticipate where we're going to intercept this party because they cannot be allowed to get to the end of the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they get to the end of the road, they disappear, and then the doorways of that tomb are opened, and something is waiting for us on the other side.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Lord.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Mac probably also spent a significant portion of his worldly wealth on these ponies and all the rest of it, and all this adventuring here that is now going to be left behind.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I guess he's going to...
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess we'll call the night and he's going to spend the night doing some soul searching.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to take his exceptionally sharp knife.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like three extra pairs of socks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: A backpack, a good stick, and just like just kind of yolo this thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all the things are black.
[SPEAKER_03]: OK, so we are embarking on a journey.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are going about yay far, which I think we've determined is about 60-ish miles, which is going to be about like a three-day trip.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to make three rolls.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are now 47 minutes into the episode, and we're going to roll some dice for the first time.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's three days.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have three characters and there are three fundamental roles.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is your it is the what the hunter the caretaker and the guide and the guide Which of these three roles?
[SPEAKER_03]: We each of us are going to occupy which far three characters are going to occupy one of these roles And we're going to make a role to reflect this
[SPEAKER_03]: What is which of these roles is is Mac field is is either assigned to or or volunteering for I think that based on this He's definitely not a hunter.
[SPEAKER_02]: He could be kind of a caretaker, but
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's the only one who could really be expected to be like a guide guide.
[SPEAKER_02]: That feels good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that's his job.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what we came to you for.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So things starts now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that throwing is our hunter and our care taker has defaulted to defaulted to Joseph Mayus who is not a bullshit tyrant.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a bullshit pirate has sort of taken the reins of being our caretaker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if anybody can tell good stories, it's going to be Matt Barry the Pirate.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's 100% true.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for our first day, since I think this is a good one for you to roll.
[SPEAKER_03]: Roll me 2d6.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is the, I think remind myself of the number that you are rolling for?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, roads and easy, Rolls and easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rolls and easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rolls and easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so happy that you wrote down all these helpful numbers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need an effort for a back to them later.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so that's a five.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a five.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I get to add, uh, oh, thank God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guide is wits.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get to add one.
[SPEAKER_02]: We made it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's six.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a perfect success.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's one success.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just have to get more success as the fails.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a second success.
[SPEAKER_03]: We make it.
[SPEAKER_03]: we make it part of the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are like day one is complete.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are on the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are staying.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are staying.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've managed to successfully, uh, for everybody at home.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've managed to successfully guide us down the main road from your
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... just got it was straight along just back home yeah just backwards uh... i think that like i think i'm gonna roll i think it was in person guide for the shire there's an interesting case here uh... for rolling a hunting roll here specifically under the pretext of like
[SPEAKER_03]: we've gotten to the boat we are gathering like our weapons and now we are like this is this is not hunting like game this is hunting our uh... the targets we are into accepting so this is us like this is this is getting into an advantage of position this is another six uh... my friends uh... friends bigger is plus two actually which is great
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a that's a nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a that's a perfect hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's two successes.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a successful journey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we are I think very close to intercepting them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think like by this time tomorrow we will intercept them.
[SPEAKER_03]: To I think like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, this is a very good moment for this role to happen because Joe because now Joe's amazes like I got to like psych these people up for a fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is this is him stepping into the captain's role, but with a heart of zero, which means this is all in the car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yo, that first I've landed at a one, it's like, you're a snake guys, it's an especially terrible thing happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, um, so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are we on the map?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're right about the end of the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that we meet them right around the end of the road, probably just outside of the shire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just outside of the shire, give me a detail of the sin, I think that we are like the opening to the woods, we can see the woods in front of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know where they're gonna try to run to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we hiding in the woods?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this that we are like, descending upon them?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk strategy a little bit before we have this fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Mac has read several history books and all the accounts say that you have to ambush somebody on the road.
[SPEAKER_02]: The details are extremely thin, but hobbits like to hide and dwarves are less hidey.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, if Lashie Pirates is not exactly going to be able to hide behind the same bushes that have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mac is going to suggest that we ambush them just inside the tree line because there are trees big enough to hide a whole last man and some giant horses because again,
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, plus, plus, if it feels very like a place where Mac can run and hide when it's filtered.
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels great.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think because we got three successes on our journey, I think we can make actions now to prepare, give ourselves advantageous position.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are here before they arrive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, six riders of an unknown, six riders of unknown origin coming out of Orethank are descending towards the end of the road so that they can get into the woods and get to this two entrance before far near and the riders get there on their own quest.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're standing in the way or three run down horses.
[SPEAKER_03]: A con artist pirate is con artist Hobbit friend and the dwarves that they hire to kill people.
[SPEAKER_03]: his words.
[SPEAKER_03]: What action are we each taking?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to call for a we'll we'll call this a role and he's any stat whatever you how how are we readying ourselves to take this ambush okay so Mac has no context for fight yeah except what he's read so he's it's all theoretical so he's going to go with wit okay great
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a roll and talk to me about like what the plan is that Mac is an act.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what Mac would like to do is once they come in through the trees, he would love to see like a position where he can grab them from one side and hit them at a bend and do a lot of fun things.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to use a lot of flowery language and tactical nonsense.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I think that if
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so here's the thing, right Jeff, in the game, you have to set a DC, so difficulty classroom rule, and then we figure out what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we should probably decide how hard or easy it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is a, I think each of these will be a 10.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I think a 10 is the number to beat for each of these.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to get one for each, each success that we get on this will allow us to put something an advantage on the field that will give us a plus one.
[SPEAKER_02]: to the fight that we are having then I would I'm going to say can we use one of those fellowship points yeah and we'll come together and we'll work on the plan together that's a bonus one so here we go oh thank god but I don't even think that's enough I think we have Mac has that's six two for my wit that's seventy nine you can spend a point of hope if you would if you are if like
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think there's much hope for Mac if we don't make this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Mac will also spend a point of, okay, that's 10.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is the, that means what's the advantage that we have on the field that's gonna give that we can invoke for a plus one in the fight?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's gotta be surprised.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: We successfully stage an ambush.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great, which means that like during the fight that we're about to have, if we describe like, you can leverage the element of surprise to gain a plus one to your attack rule.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that we're probably up a wooded slope from the road and we, you know, we can shoot down, we can run down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like, I'm going to call this bigger because I think like I am using the time, uh, Josemase is using the time to quite literally build some kind of log trap.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it is quite literally like a like pirate shit like we're doing we're building a trap here specifically because like they've got numbers We've got time and we've got time to crush them between some locks You're doing that and I'm trying to theoretically recreate the battle cannon five.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's a six seven
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to spend three points of hope.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that is simply not a success, and that's simply like...
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the kind of like traps quote unquote that my brothers and I would build when we were kids in the patch of woods behind our house.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we would set up a legitimately dangerous, like fall traps where we'd like, there'd be dead tree standing we'd rig up like tripcords.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, we'd let it stay for a day or two and then nothing would happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then we'd want to see it fall down, so we'd pull it down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like honest to God, I don't think we ever really considered what would happen if it worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then here's what I'm going to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to write down.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna write down hazard, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That I think what has happened because I think this will color the fight as it unfolds.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there are vault traps and things here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that we can use them to our advantage but they will certainly be things that we have to be aware of as the fight is unfolding.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, like a pit on the wrong side of the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like we have, like it is a, it is a like if a roll goes badly in this fight, like we might be in danger of falling into a vault trail.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then so the only professional murderer for Owen.
[SPEAKER_03]: One, two, three.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that Farmeer has about gotten to Tharbad gotten to about too Tharbad at this moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, so froin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also vigor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also plus two.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think like froin is like building out like kind of for lack of a better way to put it like a sniper's next I think froin is like I love that carving out some tree space I love the idea that he's like he's set.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's a 10.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a 10 plus his success plus yeah, okay So I love the idea that he's got like the big honk in crossbow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and he's like lining it up And everything's greased and quiet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's so funny that like dialing this is like Joseph Mayus is like digging hold and like we're gonna get him.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna trick them
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like I'm not hiding the one professional killer in the group is like, well, yeah, obviously I'm just gonna take sniper shots.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna shoot the first one and then confuse the other And then a run-off is that not clear?
[SPEAKER_03]: So here's how mob rules work in the game they can deal into a single threat that increases the difficulty of the leader by three Okay, which means that like there is one you'll eat like there's clearly a leader there is like in what we can see now is an orc I don't know like a like a right a group of right orc riders are like racing
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Lord, there's about six of them, one of them is clearly a leader and the others are just kind of like rabble behind them, tearing up this, tearing up this, this road.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's staying straight for our current location.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are these like prototype Urukai?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think so weird like first pancake weird works.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think the first pancake weird works.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not they're not the I don't think that any of them are as dangerous as like in a rica.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think these are these are Sormon got some are rounded up some guys perfect All right, this is this is Sormon.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is so like I don't even know quite like they are like explicitly or because much as they might just be like really ugly God just God just like kind of shitty guys
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, here's my question.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the way this works is we roll against the difficulty of the leaders.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, plus three for the mob.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where does weird shitty person?
[SPEAKER_02]: I've planned us.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got them between an eight and a 10, like 10 for the leader, eight for the group.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that puts the leader at a third.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's wild because that means on two D six in order to fight these guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to get a 13.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a reason that we put a bunch of bonuses on the board.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a reason that we put a bunch of bonuses on the board.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think for Owen's going to take the shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got the element of surprise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've also got hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, hope is not just a blank plus one.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you use hope, you say you're going to use hope ahead of the roll.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you do, you get to reroll one of your dice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, okay, great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that we're going to, I think I think everyone's going to start hoping real home and for one's going to hope real hard at this moment and is going to say, like, okay, let's go.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to re-roll one of our dice potentially.
[SPEAKER_03]: That drops this hope down to two.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got the plus one.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is an icers nest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we start the ambush with whatever nonsense?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the pirates cooked up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the play.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the play.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think like it is a, I think it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got this hazard.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to help us, but we could nonetheless use it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it is a, we jump, I think Joe's Mace's plan has jumped out like scare them to a way to drive them towards where the fall trap are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that we can then use them to our advantage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Excellent.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the surprise.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't invoke this Nipers nest.
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely invoking a hope.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's plus three.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to get a 10 or better on these duties.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a six.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one we're gonna roll.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, not only is that a not only is that a success, but an extraordinary thing happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: So whenever you roll 26 on snake eyes, the worst possible thing happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you roll box cars, the best possible thing happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: So oh my god, does it work?
[SPEAKER_02]: Does he just like drop a tree on them like?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, here's what I think has happened because I was thinking about a thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: one second.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to tell you exactly what's coming to mind, is that scene in return of the Jedi?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: When the E-Walks have built their little tree slam together, trapped.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the two logs come flying out from either side and smash up an HTSD.
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet that's just cooked in my brain.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the thing, I think that works.
[SPEAKER_03]: 14, 15, which means the delta between these two.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way this works is if you pass the damn the difficulty score, you do damage equal to the difference between your role and the score itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, which means this goes from a 13 to an 11.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to say what that means is that one of these guys goes down by two.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the orcs is like a slam between two trees, knocked off of his horse and like scatters a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the extraordinary thing is we have been measuring distance.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have been measuring distance by the game's text and also like the ordinary rules of Middle Earth that don't factor in particular sources of extreme magic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think these motherfuckers are a lot closer.
[SPEAKER_03]: You think Faramir's cried enough?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Faramir's cried enough on some specular horses that are tearing at.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I aren't part because I think that the moment we when they arrive, I want you have the interaction of we try to dissuade them from going further.
[SPEAKER_03]: And or we have the encounter with whatever horror is waiting for us at this is perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: The cavalry Yeah, maybe the cavalry is about to arrive.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it is that we have scattered installed them to a point where the cavalry is about to ride up That's what our double six is are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are Matt?
[SPEAKER_03]: What's mac up to at that moment?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Mac is gonna see what's happening see the things coming together
[SPEAKER_02]: and is going to helpfully cheer things along.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Mac has a knife and is definitely not close enough for that and is totally okay with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds great.
[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mac's going to attempt to hearten.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Throw in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cheer him on and hopefully make him a great old faster, better, stronger.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a six.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not going to do us.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not going to do us.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say with your wits, that's a what a yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the difficulty on that, a 10?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it would be easy, 10 is moderate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's probably easy to tell Frone how to, like, that feels like he does a good job.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that feels good for it to give him, like, a hope in this moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially since Frone is as much in his element as we could possibly have done.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is probably just having the best moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to take that point of hope.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to add that point of hope to this role.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got this surprise.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got this neighbor's nest.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got two vigor.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a plus four to this role to hit an 11.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that's a 6, 7, 9, 10.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to reroll this dice, that's an 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one damage.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what we needed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the shot goes off again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now they've scattered in a way that like, uh, we, we're, we're doing great.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're picking them off pacify piece, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the idea that Max attempt to heart and throne is just to give him a line-by-line reading of like a old battle and just like explain like the context for what an ambush is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's that and I think like it is it is it is uh and I think of what I think it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a great moment here where you're you're giving all this historical context and you
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me when one of them is directly in front of me like I'm going to duck low You just say now and there's this moment of like oh, yeah, now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bye Oh, that's perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I just I think I think Joe's Mayus is now also just continuing to run in switch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, do it Eliminate of surprise Like does he swing in like a rope or we do in that whole thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... my spending hope here is ten and that we'll be better better i don't think so i think i think eight or better on two d six is not bad Jeff we are only half of it didn't need it you need it that's a nine ten eleven that is a whole one that's one off but that's still picking them off we are we are we are rallying here excellent okay perfect uh... go ahead what's back up to
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess you're gonna get a little into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna pull his knife and things are looking real well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's just gonna at least go get up close.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna go get close.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a five that didn't work out so well.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna,
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Max, yeah, well, his weight would be plus one.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a six, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's still gonna take some days.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got to take some damage.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that the writers, like we have, cause like, Joseph Mayus is like full on just swinging his falsian and swinging his pirate sword.
[SPEAKER_03]: The brawl is unfolding, you are getting, you are taking your first proper hits.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did roll for throwing, and I got a 10, 11, 12, 13.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to knock them down by five.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the idea that in all of this, what actually hurt Mac is just a swinging branch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like somebody whipped a branch as they ran by.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: To caught it in the teeth.
[SPEAKER_03]: The trap went off.
[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't go off great.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we are remarkably in control.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got them down to a DSF5.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we've probably knocked off a couple of these, a couple of these riders.
[SPEAKER_03]: Command is scattered.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go, let's finish this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I finished this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's finish this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, back to Macreal fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, remember how box cards is awesome and sneak guys are fast?
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: These make guys is the bad thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, this is the encounter that gives us everything we could want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are snake eyes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, now we have to decide what happens to a hobbit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I want to propose, uh, I have, I know what I want the bad thing to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I think, like, I think it perfectly balance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's what I want to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I want your thoughts on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: OK. Big picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: We hear the, here's the lay of the land.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the big picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have zoomed out.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are seeing this in the red book.
[SPEAKER_03]: The red book later is explaining the military actions and the fun folded here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Far and me are writing the exceptional horses of Rohan has made an extraordinary distance and is about to arrive at this location.
[SPEAKER_03]: Upon seeing that that ride was happening, Saraman got wind that there was something in this tomb and was kind of lied to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of lied to you in the same way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the lie spread through like that he kind of got wind that they had been lied to you and was like, well, I can capitalize on that lie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I take what's in that tomb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's eyes are on this tomb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's the third group that's highs are on this tomb that were much closer to where this tomb was?
[SPEAKER_03]: The dwarves?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there is a dwarven troop that I think like the terrible thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: is I'm moving this dice to here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, because I think that we see a group of dwarves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a group of dwarven, they coal miners scaven, like a group, like the actual hard salt to the earth, like actual hard people are people.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like the, because now the beast is descending upon us and we're not gonna go to the tomb and the tomb is coming to us.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the best possible outcome, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: The story of tubalicide.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whew.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it was a dwarven king mayor prince?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I just, can Paul's real face?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you asked me like, what I thought the worst possible thing was.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have a, my wife writes a ton of horses.
[SPEAKER_02]: She loves writing horses always has.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm terrified of being stepped on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, I thought you were just going to simply suggest that Mack gets crushed by a worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fair and valid, real, no, but go ahead, no, no, no, this is bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the story is the idea that just, the story of Tuba Lassai, Tuba Lassai was a fortress that was forged by a dwarven like Duke.
[SPEAKER_03]: So minor royalty who amassed an outbreak of
[SPEAKER_03]: like a play a small plague that spread went full doomsday prepper yeah and locked himself and his riches in a tomb that's the most dwarven thing to do with the goal of with the goal of like conquering not just this disease but all diseases and death itself oh okay now he's done it
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this was a, this was a, this was a man who said, I'm going to defeat that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to lock myself in here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, he walled his need himself, put himself in a thing and said, I'm going to come out when I, I'm going to come out when we have him more challenged.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought the love of God, I'm not a sore, he kind of, he maybe, yeah, he maybe he amount a lot of himself a little bit like you're maybe.
[SPEAKER_03]: of and that tomb laid bit laid sealed for many many years until like a group of like miners, hard, soul to the earth people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got wind that there was like enough, you know, it is a separate from whatever we're doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is the equivalent of a Cohen Brothers movie that has unfolded with these dwarves.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where there's like enough money here to change our lives forever.
[SPEAKER_03]: We smash open the door, Dracula's ass flies out of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, I think as far near and the riders like arrive and like lay, weigh very quick weights to these works that we've been fighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: A second, like a creature flock, like a creature like descends overhead and
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... descends upon us because it catches like an arrow or two like there is an immediate reaction of like we'll fuck that i don't know that and now this bat creatures descending upon us the bat beast of tuba let's say his descendant on that is a terrifying phrase so are we going with like is it is it just like bat wings with like like heartbeak leg i think so i think that's the it that's because the thing that i rolled in the adventure table was that we would have to fight bats
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: As I was like mapping all of this out, I was like, what I'm staring at is a Dracula.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what we're staring at is a Dracula is a Disney's gargoyles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the gargoyles.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing that is now descending upon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's not good though.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not good.
[SPEAKER_03]: A plague, a plague, a man can just...
[SPEAKER_03]: a man consumed by plague and paranoia and reshaped in the depths of his own prison tomb has descended upon us.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the idea that he's the only one that came out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, no madman seals themselves alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, there's more in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just bones, bones and memories.
[SPEAKER_02]: Does it memories?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yes, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So a vampire bat dwarf monster.
[SPEAKER_03]: A vampire bat dwarf monster is ascending upon us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is our final battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God, how far on are we?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, about a minute, hour 15.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've wrapped the, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we've got this, we
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think Mack is going to immediately attempt to use his wit to hide, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: To set himself up maybe for an ambush or simply to survive whatever's coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mack.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, seven, eight, nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nine?
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that works.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, um, give yours.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got, you've got a hiding place that will give you a plus one on future actions, whether that is to evade or to, or to attack from it or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think in a woods probably very easy for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Joseph A.S. is going to... God damn it.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a heart roll.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a heart roll to tell these motherfuckers killed this man because this is the guy that you were like...
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the moment where we have to convey to these people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, this is the thing you were tricked into almost unleashing, but it got here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna use a heart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, Matt Barry, this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you got this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on, that's a four and a five and a nine that's a that's a nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we got no bonuses to this no bonuses, but a nine does that feel I mean the difficulty of convincing of convict like and I guess it's probably it's got to be easy right because the thing is here Well, yeah, because if you know the name that fairer Mary knows he just
[SPEAKER_03]: That's tuba, let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that gives us an advantage to our roles against this thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we just, maybe we just, I'm gonna, here's what I'm gonna do.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's enough riders in far-remiar's company.
[SPEAKER_03]: They unload on this thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're going to take mob rules on our action, which means that our things increase by three, which means I am permanently reducing this thing's difficulty score tonight.
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels like the balance, that feels like the ruling to make this make that work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect, because the actual cavalry has arrived.
[SPEAKER_03]: The actual cavalry has arrived, and I am telling them like shoot that thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wing trap, wing trap, three rounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the nice thing is that that takes us off the target priority list because as far as fair I'm here knows he just rode into a battle on the woodline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and now there's a Dracula.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly But the priorities have changed Dracula number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll sort the rest later.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll sort the rest later
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's lie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Froin?
[SPEAKER_03]: Froin?
[SPEAKER_03]: Still in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm using surprise in this night first.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think just throw that hate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Throw that hate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Froin's got it in his sights.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a seven, eight, nine, ten.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's on a leaven.
[SPEAKER_02]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's us.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's over the nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's two points.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's two points damage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's two for the Dracula.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that the, I think I'm representing them as a, as the negative, as a reduction of three, and then it's on us for the rest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So then we've all gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is tubeless, I do?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is, is, is, tears it throw in specifically as the thing that, that has most directly like, so you just, like, falls like a lift or bolt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, kill the, kill the surprise and kill the snipers and ask for maximum difficulty and is, is descending down is going to try and evade this,
[SPEAKER_03]: I think has to be a, I don't know, I think it's bigger because it's just straight up like I'm fighting this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm wrestling the drag.
[SPEAKER_02]: So honestly, if I'm imagining throwing as any one right now, he's just a Josh Burl in type character.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just come at me, mother.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just calmly reloading.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Has it, Jeff has rolled the die off the table.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gone, it's going, it's, we have a four and we have another four.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another four.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, okay, which is a success.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that means the ends up throwing actually does an additional one damage to this thing and Jeff I'm not gonna come at you in your own house, but we all know that if it's not rolled on the table doesn't get that's right you're right It's not even that's even better All right, so we went from an eight to 10 so that means that it goes down to a four.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we've almost we've almost struck this thing down Okay, all right, but I think what I'm gonna do I think from max because I think like I think being in the presence of this thing
[SPEAKER_03]: I am going to have to make a second roll.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm adding a ruling here immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Frone's got to make a roll has to make a moderate heart roll.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, which is not easy, because Frone has zero heart.
[SPEAKER_03]: and it does not succeed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, fro it is marked by a point of shadow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and shadow is just like the general erosion of your wellbeing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is the erosion of your wellbeing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is the embrace of it is hopelessness.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is despair, it is corruption.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is the influence of the evil one like seeping in and it is being in the presence of something this horrific and ancient and like an embodiment of such pure evil and malice and greed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Seeps into your being.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you engage this thing in melee, you have to resist the call of the chat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God So it's like it's the it's the soul grinding fear of knowing that a devil sees you Exactly, you've got it exactly right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh God We don't want to get into melee with this thing as throwing has now discovered
[SPEAKER_02]: All right cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Mac has has a knife and that's it's all he was able to bring and you know he's got he's got some wit and he's got some heart He's got zero vigor, but he came for this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he came for this he has to
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, I think back's going to take a second and consider mortality.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and then he's going to try to dive on tubeless eye.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to burn.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to burn some hope burn some hope because he has to hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: He only has hope and there's hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go boys.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might be able to do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, here goes long.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did Mac buffin of the Brooklyn buffins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who do I keep the do I keep it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think do I keep here's what I'll say because I rolled a six and a four you have killed this Okay hold on hold on Okay, that is a seven seven seven still gets me
[SPEAKER_03]: You have not, you have no oil to kill this guy that I've realized.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope, hope turned to greed and turned to wickedness.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, you, you, you, you, you got, which I think like, here's how I'm gonna frame this, because I still want you to make the shadow roll.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: You stab this thing and it dies.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's head turns to look at you and like it releases throw in and like backwards heads stands up as it like turns the rest of its body.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your understanding of mortality itself has been shaken.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a moderate defense against the shadow role.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and and what do I get to add to this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's nothing you can add is it hard your heart Okay So you can you can add your heart You can choose to roll hope your difficulty is a 10
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you can also add a fellowship.
[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't spent it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We only spent one point of fellowship.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have three fellowship.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have two fellowship left to spend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, to be fair the idea that there were friends and other people doing the real work for the other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got back out the door.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're we're good for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That feels good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we get one four.
[SPEAKER_02]: One for heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: One for fellowship.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a moderate for ten.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's an 8 plus 2 is 10.
[SPEAKER_02]: It takes everything and everyone to keep Mac from dying.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is the killing blow from Joseph May is like coming at like from behind hacking into this thing with a Falchian saving his friend swooping in for the kill swooping in for the kill looking very cool in the process this is the perfect way for these three characters interact with each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have the professional doing his job again is getting us kicked for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have Mac pretending to be something he's not and hoping for the best and narrowly
[SPEAKER_03]: and then the pirate looking cool with a quote like pulling it out at the last minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hell yes, incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we are stare at like the dead body of this thing is looming before us.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are battered, we are broken, and the riders are like, I think far from your hops off the horse and like kicks at it once just to make sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Huh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tuba La Sai?
[SPEAKER_03]: to the other side.
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems that our sources were misinformed about the true nature of this beast.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, misinformation has been the downfall of many armies throughout history.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but I know, I know fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Years old vibe as a guy, and I think it's not great.
[SPEAKER_03]: In this moment, because I do think there's a moment
[SPEAKER_03]: But if the Lord of the Tomb is dead, if there is such a weapon,
[SPEAKER_03]: It might be unguarded.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Mac is so far out of his element right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's absolutely shell-shocked, and he just covered in black eye core.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No comment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing to just watching.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fair and we are kind of turned this over in his head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there is a moment where he turns to, I think each of our three characters should get away.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I think that we, this is not even a role.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is as, this is the debate about whether or not we go forward into the two.
[SPEAKER_03]: Max perspective.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Max perspective is that He's been playing at a ventrrew.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and this is exactly as far as you want to go The ride stopped being fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to go home now Joe's and and I think
[SPEAKER_03]: This is so great because for Owen's perspective is like, we killed this thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I killed this thing, I can take whatever's in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe even that's the representation of the one point of shadow is like, for him it's, it's for him it's dragon sickness, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It is the, it is the, well, I, I haven't died.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's that bloodlust.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's got a little bit of bloodlust, he's like, I could, I could kill whatever's in there, we killed this guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: This guy was the boss apparently, and I think it's Joseph Mayus.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think sides with Mac of like,
[SPEAKER_03]: We were like, I'm here to tell you when you get far from here to not go in there because of this thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the problem with that logic is now the thing is dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but we don't know what worst thing is still in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can go forward and die in a tomb if you want.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am taking my friend back to his home Where we are going to get very drunk at an end in the city and then I'm gonna get all my boat and go back on the water Where I can Rade boats and live a life of relative ease of comfort
[SPEAKER_03]: the proper pirate.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go be a gentleman bandit and not go be some kind of fucked-up monster hunter.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Mac is gonna spend a lot of time drinking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like to think that there is a reality here where, you know, they follow Farmer in and then they just break it up behind him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we just need to think of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't need this.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is where you guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: My name's Paul.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is between y'all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that like, there is a parting of the ways.
[SPEAKER_03]: where we like, they depart, I think, far a mere, like, hold on, I gotta roll a second day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Farmer's got a job to do, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's a son of Denithor, he knows his duty.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the thing that has happened, I rolled, I gave an impromptu plus two heart check to fare a mere, and I think he passed.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he rallies most of his riders.
[SPEAKER_03]: to depart with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like there we get the returning home shot of like them surrounded.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think all of them do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a handful of them have that exact perspective of like we were given a job.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going into that tomb to get whatever ancient sword is there that we can use in the fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, farmers like there will be other fights other days.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this was a trap sent to our sending us to our deaths.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going home.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I love that that's the parting of the ways is throwing with like three of the other riders is like y'all want to do this and they're the ones that depart.
[SPEAKER_03]: We see the parting of the ways and that is the end of our store.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: This rift, I don't know how to have you, but this is so much fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: This kicked so much as I'm so happy about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for playing this with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was your favorite moment from playing?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, honest to God, it was the moment where you brought fair mirror up to the edge of the woods.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got those box cars and then we got the snake eyes in the same fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could not be happy because like both times I was like I was like I know that the mom I know that I put a monster in that too and I was like and also like if we don't Accurately get fire me or to the back off like I won't feel right so in both times it was like
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the opportunities here, we have to be happy to do something.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just felt right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, from storytelling perspective, this was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this system.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Lord of the Rings.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a real soft spot for Lord of the Rings.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was magic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for joining me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where can people find you in your work?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the podcast that I'm on is full of a took podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do a video on YouTube, full video episodes of Every Chapter, Lord of the Rings.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've gone through the fellowship of the ring.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've gone through the two towers, we're currently on our season three, four return of the King.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to rock.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're also on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all the rest of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got plenty of content, lots of shorts, lots of fun stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: love it incredible thank you so much for joining me this was a real joy uh thank you is always the unity job of hosting us for these monthly events this is great we have such a blast here it is a real joy uh this is part of one you can find us a part of one podcast dot com you can find uh the show wherever you get your podcast you can find me on social media at jeffstormer.gobirds dot online uh let's see what else do i do here i feel like i usually have like a list part of one is
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's most of the things that we shout out so thank you all for hanging out here alive Thank you for listening at home And until next time as always Fight the forces of fascism every single day remember the self-love and self-care radical and defiant acts of resistance Party on and go birds go birds