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In this episode of Fighting Matters, Jeff Shaw and Jesse Walker are joined by Jose Fernandez, a health economist and purple belt who chairs the economics department at the University of Louisville. He explains who pays for tariffs, why 70% of the world's gis coming out of one country matters for your gear budget, and what gym owners should do about prices and leases while their students are getting squeezed.

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👥 Featuring:
- Jeff Shaw — https://bellinghambjj.com
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
- Jose Fernandez — https://louisville.edu/faculty/jmfern02

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- The tight labor market and consumer sentiment
- Gym pricing, leases, and rate freezes
- Politics in the gym and local elections
- Tariffs on gis and rash guards
- The AI bubble and robot labor
- The federal debt and taxing the rich
- Insurance paperwork and doctor hours

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📖 Chapters:
00:00:00 — Introducing Jose Fernandez
00:03:57 — The indicators and the debt
00:06:47 — White belt signups slow down
00:08:51 — Leases, rent, and expansion
00:11:48 — Why you shouldn't cut prices
00:13:38 — Family discounts and freezes
00:19:05 — Politics in the jiu-jitsu gym
00:20:29 — Vote in your local elections
00:25:09 — Who pays the tariff on your gi
00:28:23 — Trade deals without tariffs
00:32:31 — Why the stock market climbs
00:38:00 — Robots replacing human labor
00:47:54 — AI, drones, and modern warfare
00:54:12 — Cheap gas and the oil reserves
01:00:03 — The debt and the sacred cows
01:11:24 — Insurers waste doctor hours

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan and Stephan Kesting pull up a screenshot of the UFC BJJ 10 mat and read the sponsors out loud: the Air National Guard, the AI drone company Anduril, and Turning Point USA. Dana White has spent years insisting the UFC is not political, and you can read the rebuttal off his own mat. They argue the money is there to launder reputations and buy the silence of athletes who do not have many other options.

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👥 Featuring:
- Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
- Stephan Kesting — https://grapplearts.com

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- The sponsors on the UFC BJJ 10 mat
- Anduril and Turning Point USA
- Dana White on the UFC not being political
- Exclusionary UFC BJJ contracts and ADCC
- UFC BJJ viewership and visibility
- What UFC BJJ athletes get paid
- The chilling effect on athletes who speak out

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📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Stephan's Arctic expedition
02:21 — Dana White on being political
03:15 — The YAMMA bowl cage, revisited
04:24 — Reading the sponsors on the mat
05:33 — Anduril, the AI drone company
10:09 — Turning Point USA on the mat
16:28 — Could the left buy the same ad?
21:13 — The capture and kill strategy
24:00 — UFC BJJ's viewership problem
28:15 — Owning all of combat sports
32:09 — What UFC BJJ athletes get paid
43:41 — The Sartre quote on fascists
34:45 — The chilling effect on athletes
51:20 — What people can do about it

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Jesse Walker and Stephan Kesting (just back from thirty days in the Arctic wilderness) are joined by Dr. Clayton Green, a board certified dermatologist with a PhD in microbiology who worked face to face with patients through the whole pandemic. Clayton and Stephan take apart the conspiracies the pandemic left behind (nanobot tracking chips, the lab leak, RFK Jr.'s claims about Lyme disease) and explain why frightened people reached for them in the first place. Jesse's question runs underneath the whole thing: how did a community built on evidence-based martial arts end up rejecting evidence-based medicine?

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👥 Featuring:
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
- Stephan Kesting — https://grapplearts.com
- Dr. Clayton Green

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- The Big Pharma payment myth, debunked
- Fear, certainty, and bad decisions
- Fauci as the scapegoat
- Changing the guidance was correct
- Grapplers rejecting evidence-based medicine
- Ivermectin and the grifters targeting grapplers
- The genetics that rule out a lab leak
- Algorithms and radicalized coaches
- Your phone tracks you better than any chip

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📖 Chapters:
00:00:00 — Introducing Dr. Clayton Green, dermatologist
00:01:53 — The Big Pharma payment myth, fully debunked
00:03:57 — Six years on, still no reckoning for COVID
00:05:49 — Fauci as the scapegoat for a whole government
00:08:07 — Fear and anger drive people to false certainty
00:10:12 — The early mask messaging that cost public trust
00:18:11 — Saving the mask supply for hospitals was right
00:23:01 — The vaccine claims held true until Omicron hit
00:26:51 — Reaching for ivermectin over actual medicine
00:29:13 — Operation Warp Speed, the win nobody will claim
00:31:42 — Grapplers rejected evidence-based medicine
00:37:02 — Pleading the fifth to dodge a perjury trap
00:41:45 — Genetic fingerprints rule out a lab leak
00:45:35 — Social media moderation and anti-Asian backlash
00:50:34 — YouTube radicalized Stephan's old instructors
00:53:35 — Debunking nanobot chips, 5G, and snake oil
01:00:37 — RFK Jr. is wrong about Lyme disease origins
01:03:06 — The AIDS-virus sequence myth, taken apart
01:05:17 — Whether we can get the public trust back

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Jesse Walker and Mike Mahaffey catch up on a run of recent news where powerful people did awful things and faced no real consequences: Andrew Tate arrested on 42 charges he may never answer for, ICE killings at traffic stops with the FBI reportedly stepping back, an FDA food-safety scare that ended in an apology to a Trump donor, and a Kentucky senator who has vanished while still collecting his seat. What ties it together is a question that hits close to home for two jiu-jitsu coaches: what happens to a country, or a gym, when people only look out for themselves?

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👥 Featuring:
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
- Mike Mahaffey — https://instagram.com/oldbastardbjj

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- Andrew Tate's arrest in Florida and the 42 charges waiting for him in the UK
- Why the manosphere and the administration still hold him up as a model of masculinity
- Two ICE killings at traffic stops, deaths in detention, and who answers for them
- Voting your pocketbook, and what a community loses when people only care once it hits them
- Class versus culture: who is actually making your life harder
- The "diarrhea lettuce" scandal and the FDA's apology to a major Trump donor
- Mitch McConnell's disappearance, Kentucky's empty seat, and the octogenarian problem
- Team-first versus me-first, in politics and in jiu-jitsu

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📖 Chapters:
00:00:00 — Judo at an advanced age and teaching EMS crews to fall
00:02:40 — Andrew Tate arrested, 42 charges, and the purple blouse
00:11:44 — Two ICE killings and the accountability that isn't coming
00:21:03 — Detention deaths and what you'd do if they came for you
00:25:00 — Coaches cheering this on while their communities suffer
00:28:44 — Why people only wake up when it hits their wallet
00:32:06 — Phone banking and the voter just trying to survive
00:37:11 — Nobody survives alone, and who's really to blame
00:40:04 — Diarrhea lettuce and the FDA's apology to a donor
00:44:03 — The jiu-jitsu parallel: team-first beats the selfish island
00:47:31 — Where is Mitch McConnell, and the octogenarian problem
01:00:08 — Photobombing Master Worlds and signing off

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan is joined by Jesse Walker of Rough Hands BJJ to talk about Graham Platner, the Maine Senate candidate whose campaign has come apart under a run of scandals: a Nazi-associated tattoo, credible sexual assault allegations, and more. They use his collapse to get at a harder question that runs through both politics and jiu-jitsu: why we keep excusing disqualifying behavior from people we want to believe in, and what it costs us when we do.

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👥 Featuring:
- Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- Who Graham Platner is and how his campaign fell apart
- The Totenkopf tattoo and the "I didn't know what it meant" defense
- AIPAC, the rise of antisemitism, and where criticism of Israel ends and conspiracy begins
- Why we keep handing passes to people with disqualifying histories
- "Due process trolls" and why a courtroom standard isn't the bar for who we associate with
- How tolerating bad behavior normalizes it, and the Trump parallel
- The same rot in jiu-jitsu: protecting bad actors because they win or teach well
- Term limits, aging politicians, and elevating grassroots talent over big names

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📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Why Fighting Matters isn't a left-wing podcast
01:11 — Who is Graham Platner?
03:24 — The Totenkopf tattoo and the "I didn't know" defense
05:23 — A campaign in freefall
09:15 — AIPAC, antisemitism, and drawing the line
14:11 — Nazi tattoos are disqualifying, even accidental ones
16:38 — Two sets of rules and the Fetterman problem
20:00 — Purity tests vs. keeping your moral compass
24:10 — The jiu-jitsu parallel: bad teammates and PEDs
25:54 — Due process trolls
32:02 — Mamdani and elevating outsider talent
44:34 — Supporting bad actors in jiu-jitsu (Josh Saunders)
49:24 — Being good at jiu-jitsu is not a competitive edge
53:29 — Geriatric politicians and term limits
59:07 — Wrapping up: accountability in practice

In this episode of the Fighting Matters podcast, Steve Kwan is joined by Jesse Walker of Rough Hands BJJ and Mike Mahaffey of Old Bastard BJJ on the eve of America's 250th Fourth of July. They open with whether there's anything left to celebrate and end up somewhere harder: the same instinct to look away that got the country here is alive in jiu-jitsu too. The clearest example is Izaak Michell, invited to ADCC while wanted in Texas on sexual assault warrants, and the string of accused and convicted men the sport keeps platforming anyway.

🔗 Links Mentioned:
- The Find Out Podcast, "Ex-MAGA influencer explains why he abandoned Trump" — https://youtu.be/ylPlpgQygdU
- Magic BJJ — https://magicbjj.com

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👥 Featuring:
- Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
- Mike Mahaffey — https://instagram.com/oldbastardbjj

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- America's 250th and the state of the July 4th "celebration"
- Rebuilding the country instead of defending the old institutions
- The normalization that links national politics to jiu-jitsu
- Izaak Michell, his ADCC invite, and the Texas arrest warrants
- Josh Saunders, Nazi salutes, and the "keep it non-political" excuse
- Why "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't settle the ethics
- How the sport risks going radioactive the way MMA once did
- Redemption tours, silence, and what speaking up actually does

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📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Big heads, Ace of Bass, and July 4th
02:40 — America's 250th: did the country even make it?
06:33 — Rebuilding the country, not restoring it
10:29 — Mask-off politics, the courts, and the truth
18:23 — How a MAGA influencer's fever broke
20:36 — Holding your nose, in politics and on the mats
24:10 — Who is Izaak Michell, and why ADCC invited him
30:01 — Josh Saunders and "keep it non-political"
35:34 — "Innocent until proven guilty" isn't a free pass
40:15 — What happened to MMA could happen to jiu-jitsu
44:47 — What will you tell your grandkids?
49:19 — No clean leagues left for ethical athletes
51:44 — The redemption tour: Tyson, McGregor, and ADCC
53:07 — What we can actually do about it
56:50 — Closing thoughts and where to find everyone

In this episode of Fighting Matters, co-hosts Jesse Walker and Mike Mahaffey take on Conor McGregor's UFC comeback and the media tour selling it: a man found civilly liable for sexual assault, platformed on Jimmy Fallon like none of it happened, with no apology and no amends. They get into what redemption actually requires, why comedians stopped holding power to account, and the jiu-jitsu community's own habit of looking the other way when the person on the podium has hurt people.

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🔗 Links Mentioned:
- Old Bastard BJJ on Patreon — https://patreon.com/oldbastardbjj
- Old Bastard BJJ on Instagram — https://instagram.com/oldbastardbjj

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👥 Featuring:
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
- Mike Mahaffey — https://magicbjj.com

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- Conor McGregor's UFC comeback and the media tour behind it
- Why the media keeps platforming people who have caused harm
- What real redemption requires, and why owning the harm is the price of it
- Whether some actions put someone past the point of a comeback
- How late-night hosts and comedians stopped holding power to account
- What your attention and your money actually endorse
- The jiu-jitsu community's habit of platforming people it shouldn't

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📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Welcome and teeing up the topic
01:16 — McGregor's comeback, and how he got here
04:47 — Turning MMA trash talk up to eleven
08:25 — Pro wrestling, except the harm is real
10:27 — The fall and the Hollywood comeback
13:23 — Does anyone deserve a comeback?
15:27 — Redemption means owning the harm
20:43 — What Mike learned in vocational rehab
26:12 — Our court jesters are failing us
32:36 — When "comedy is back" means punching down
36:37 — No redemption, and whose pocket you fill
47:33 — The IBJJF problem, and being a thoughtful consumer
55:38 — Where to find Jesse and Mike

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan is joined by Jesse Walker of Rough Hands BJJ to talk about the fallout from UFC Freedom 250, the fight card staged on the White House lawn for America's 250th anniversary. Neither of them watched it, because the fights were never the issue. They get into the corruption, the crypto payouts, the comment aimed at Michelle Obama, and why "keeping politics out of fighting" was never a real argument once the President turned the country's 250th birthday into his own fight night.

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👥 Featuring:
- Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- Why UFC Freedom 250 was a problem even if the fights were good
- The difference between promoting a sport and running a propaganda event
- Crypto payouts and the "company store" comparison
- The comment aimed at Michelle Obama, and why it was deliberate
- Free speech absolutism as a dodge
- The alleged Daniel Cormier and Eric Trump text exchange about fixed fights
- The paradox of tolerance and why you can't platform extremists
- What the UFC would have to do to win fans like Steve and Jesse back

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📖 Chapters:
00:00 — What UFC Freedom 250 actually was
05:05 — A for-profit event on the people's lawn
09:10 — Defending the UFC as legitimate sport
14:48 — Propaganda, grift, and crypto payouts
16:40 — The Obama basketball tournament test
22:29 — Was it worth it for the UFC?
27:05 — MMA is an immigrant story
31:05 — The Michelle Obama comment was deliberate
41:26 — Free speech absolutism as moral cowardice
45:52 — The alleged Cormier and Eric Trump texts
51:54 — You can't break bread with extremists
59:33 — What would fix the UFC?
01:07:56 — Where to find Jesse Walker

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Jeff Shaw is joined by Jesse Walker, Mike Mahaffey, and Stephan Kesting to take apart UFC Freedom 250, the card being staged on the White House South Lawn on June 14th. Four martial artists who spent decades loving this sport walk through why an event at the people's house, held on the president's birthday and billed as a celebration of America's 250th, leaves them cold. They get into the spectacle, the money, the sportswashing angle, and the version of this card that could have meant something.

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🔗 Links Mentioned:
- Old Bastard BJJ Pride Month Fundraiser — https://patreon.com/oldbastardbjj
- Salus Center — https://www.saluscenter.org
- Growing Veterans — https://growingveterans.org

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👥 Featuring:
- Jeff Shaw — https://bellinghambjj.com
- Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
- Mike Mahaffey — https://instagram.com/oldbastardbjj
- Stephan Kesting — https://grapplearts.com

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- Why a UFC card at the White House reads as fascist spectacle
- The June 14th birthday timing and the "America 250" cover story
- The "keep politics out of sports" double standard
- Empty seats, military tickets, and who foots the bill
- Cage fights as diplomacy, and what sportswashing really is
- Theodore Roosevelt, immigration, and the event this could have been
- What MMA lost when it stopped being outsider art

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📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Introducing the panel
02:40 — Fascism, spectacle, and macho posturing
04:30 — A birthday dressed as an anniversary
07:05 — Theater and a regime that believes in nothing
10:16 — Dead enthusiasm and a tourism slump
14:09 — Empty seats, military tickets, and June heat
16:32 — Rogan ringside and bread and circuses
18:53 — Who pays, and who gets held accountable
25:41 — But Roosevelt did it too
30:06 — Cage fights as diplomacy and sportswashing
34:53 — How you'd do it right, and why they can't
40:13 — Can this work at the White House at all?
46:18 — Outsider art and what's been lost

In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan talks with Mike Mahaffey of Old Bastard BJJ about the trans hate pouring out of combat sports, and the fighters who have figured out it pays. They start with Sean Strickland's AI video of himself beating up a trans woman, then get into why guys like Strickland and Jake Shields keep posting this stuff: it riles up a certain kind of fan, and that attention is the product. Recorded during Pride Month, it is also about what the jiu-jitsu community owes its trans members, who take the brunt of this.

🔗 Links Mentioned:
- Old Bastard BJJ on Patreon (buy "Introduction to Base" in June, all proceeds go to the Salus Center) — https://patreon.com/oldbastardbjj
- Salus Center, Lansing — https://www.saluscenter.org

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👥 Featuring:
- Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
- Mike Mahaffey — https://instagram.com/oldbastardbjj

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🧠 Topics Discussed:
- Sean Strickland's anti-trans AI video and the threat behind it
- How the "fairness in women's sports" debate gets used as cover for violence
- Active clubs, fascism, and the far right's foothold in fight sports
- Mike's advocacy work and the threats it brings
- The harassment trans grapplers face just for showing up to train
- Why fighters profit from anti-trans content
- Why "keep politics out of jiu-jitsu" is a cop-out
- Raising a trans daughter and changing minds through storytelling

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📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Welcome and why a Pride episode
02:26 — The Strickland video and the "fairness" cover
08:47 — Active clubs and the far right in fight sports
11:20 — Mike's advocacy and the threats it draws
17:46 — Spite-based activism and trans grapplers under attack
22:30 — Why fighters monetize trans hate
30:04 — Staying neutral is a choice, and the politics myth
34:08 — Pride, gender, and changing norms
40:17 — You don't have to get it to defend it
42:36 — Mike on supporting your trans friends and family
47:35 — Why martial artists have to speak up
51:06 — Mike's fundraiser for the Salus Center