DISCUSSION: Review of African Nations after the Round of 16

Paul Schmidt-Troschke & Declan Link review the performance of the sides from the AFCON region after the Round of 16. 

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1 SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome everybody to World Cup Football,

etc., with me, Paul Smithroschka, and with Declan

Ling today without John.

Good evening, Declan.

How are you doing?

SPEAKER_00: Uh good evening, Paul.

I'm doing very well, thank you.

Especially after our little um sojourn, our little trip over to

Mexico City, all back safe and sound and uh uh enjoyed uh two

games today.

Uh but obviously we're gonna be speaking about the ten African

nations this evening.

So good talking to you.

SPEAKER_01: Exactly.

Yeah, good talking to you as well.

So uh what we already did after the round of 32, uh in that

case, it was me and John.

We looked at all uh South American nations or Latin

American nations, um for that matter, and today we're gonna do

the same with Africa.

And um, I would say that uh that the African continent as a whole

had quite a good run in this tournament uh across the board,

although most of them were then out in the latest uh in the in

the round of 16, unfortunately.

But we uh come to the nations who survived uh the longest.

Um, since Algeria starts with an A, and we will go through them

by an alphabetical order.

Let's start with Algeria.

And um yeah, Algeria, uh, just uh for me to start here.

Um I would say um they they are to be known especially in in the

last years or in the last 10-15 years or so as a quite gnarly

side, not a nice side to play against.

I mean, almost you don't want to play against against any African

nation.

Um, and this has proven itself uh again, this World Cup.

But Declan, what do you think about Algeria's performance

individually, and then of course uh in terms of uh of a great in

the end?

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought uh overall, let me just backtrack.

I think you know they sent uh the uh CAF, the African uh

Confederation sent a record 10 teams, it's the largest number

uh that they've ever sent before, and and ultimately nine

out of the ten reached the round of 32, which is a 90% advance

rate, which is the highest of any of the confederations.

So as a whole, the African Confederation did fantastically

well.

Um, I would say that there's a group there's a group of teams

that have again, I'm gonna end up grading somewhat similarly,

and that that is um, you know, Algeria, Dia Congo, Ghana, South

Africa, Ivory Coast, Senegal, are all going to be in the same

sort of area from a grading perspective.

Algeria, you know, they reached the the round of 32 in a

somewhat dramatic fashion with that stoppage time draw with

Austria, uh, that was enough to advance both teams.

Um, but ultimately they lost 2-0 to Switzerland, and obviously,

just based on the fact that Switzerland have gone through or

in the quarterfinals now, that was probably a a um a decent

result.

They went as far as they could do with regards to the getting

out of the groups and in a knockout stage.

So I would give Algeria probably like a B or a B minus.

What do you think?

SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I was tending more to a C or a C plus

because I think that they um, of course, in the group stage, um,

they had our Argentina um to face.

They lost this game 3-0 or 0-3 for that matter.

Um, and then they managed to get their only win in the tournament

against Jordan, who was surprisingly good, in my

opinion, um, in this in this tournament.

And and then a 3-3 against uh against Austria, uh, as you

said, uh probably I would say the the the weirdest game in the

whole um or the most mysterious game um in the whole World Cup

so far.

And then yeah, a nil nil-2 to Switzerland, um, which then

knocked them out of the tournament.

So yeah, I would I would land on the C plus and you on a on a B

or B minus.

SPEAKER_00: No, I'd say B minus.

So I think that's you know somewhat somewhat somewhat

similar there.

We're both on the same page with regards to how Algeria

performed.

SPEAKER_01: Alright.

Then next one is of course uh Cabo Verde needs no introduction

anymore since uh since a couple of weeks ago.

Um yeah, without uh getting into it myself first, I'll um I'll

leave it to you, Declan.

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the you know, along with Curacell, the the the

real darlings of the tournament, you know, they are they

obviously reached the round of 32 and and and you know did it

remarkably well to lose 3-2 in extra time to Argentina.

No one on this planet would have ever predicted that before the

World Cup uh tournament started.

And it's a truly remarkable story, you know, the smallest

nation ever to reach World Cup knockouts, their tournament

debut, and they came within minutes of one of the biggest

upsets in tournament history uh and and fully deserved uh you

know their draw against Spain, they fully deserved uh to go

through from the from the from the group games and quite

frankly uh showed themselves to be a very resilient team, a very

dogged team, um, you know, fearless because of the

reputations of the teams that they were playing against.

And you know, they just never gave up.

So, you know, from from my perspective, again, uh, based on

their the expectations of of um K Verde when they went into the

tournament, I I have to give them not just the football, but

just for everything they brought to the table, and an A, a solid

A.

What about you?

SPEAKER_01: I I actually I give them an A plus, um, because

there was no performance, maybe the performance against Saudi

Arabia, which uh was uh yeah the uh the third um equal or um

equal all result, um, the last uh group stage game.

They could have done a little bit better there for sure.

Um but overall, I mean, if you if you draw against Spain and

then almost manage to go into the into the penalty shootout

against uh against Argentina, the current reigning champions.

So you played against two of the top four nations, I would say,

um, as a contender for the title.

Uh so I have to give them a give them an A plus.

And I think that this is not a sort of a one-hit wonder.

I think that they if if they find a good replacement for

Vutsinia, which who or who was of course a very big reason for

the Cape Verdean success.

Um, but I mean the offense uh showed uh itself also being

quite useful against uh against Argentina um in the round of 32.

SPEAKER_00: So an A plus for me there, but an A is uh is is I

think No, I was gonna say, Paul, if this was a court of law and

uh you had uh you were making the case, I think you've made

the case uh very eloquently there, and I'm gonna change my

grade also to an A plus.

SPEAKER_01: Ah, perfect, amazing.

Then third, we have um our most uh one of the most uh favored

countries um to pronounce on this World Cup, uh Declan.

It starts with a C.

Uh the only African country with uh which starts with a C, um at

least in their own indigenous name.

The Ivory Coast.

Can you give uh give us the French pronunciation there?

SPEAKER_00: Uh Cote d'Ivorie.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah, almost, yeah.

Nice, nice.

Um, so Côte d'Ivoire, what would you give them as a grade?

SPEAKER_00: I I would I would give them, I think they're in

that group that I talked about at the beginning where they're

all gonna have somewhat similar grades.

You know, they got through to the round of 32, which was um

quite an quite the accomplishment.

You know, they did beat France in a pre-World Cup friendly, and

um, you know, they're they're one of those those uh perennial

African upcoming nations that they're always dangerous uh to

play against, and um, you know, they they've got some extremely,

extremely good players.

Um so but I think they would having gone back to their Ivory

Coast country, I think they actually would be a slightly

disappointed um because I consider them to be in the top

five uh African uh teams uh in nations, not just the ones that

were in the tournament, but when they're playing um in the

African uh African Cup.

Um so I would give them I would give them a B or a B minus as

well.

They you know they lost 2-1 to Norway and Norway are doing very

well.

That was the round of 32 game.

So I'll give them a B B minus.

SPEAKER_01: B minus, all right.

Um I actually would also land on a B minus there, um, because I

think that they definitely underperformed um in this

tournament.

If you look at the results, a 1-0 against Ecuador, then a 1-2

loss against Germany, of course, quite unlucky there, and then a

two-win against uh Kurassau, which could have been higher as

well, and then of course finally the loss against Norway, which

was also quite close.

But I think that um that there is a lot of room for improvement

there.

They have a very um extremely solid base of players and and a

huge pool of of talent they can they can draw from um for um for

future tournaments, and then of course you have uh Diomande Um

who is still definitely not not uh at the top of his career, and

and many other names.

So I think that that Ivory Coast uh did not um yeah basically use

their use that talent or use their um their abilities to the

fullest.

So um I would agree that they were um actually a bit

disappointing.

So I would land on a B minus as well there.

SPEAKER_00: Interestingly, uh that's the Diamante is the guy

that uh plays in Germany currently and and is is is much

sought after by some of the top European clubs.

SPEAKER_01: Exactly.

I think he's he's I think right now um oh uh who uh some some

club made a bit of hundred million and it was rejected.

So um yeah.

SPEAKER_00: Because interesting enough, uh he actually came from

uh he actually went to a so-called soccer academy in

Daytona Beach, Florida, called BME, and he was playing against

um Sean Sean New, who obviously has been on the call a few times

on the on the podcast, has a has a uh UPSL team, which is this

alphabet league soup league of teams here in the United States.

They played against him within the last few years playing for

this academy in Daytona Beach called DME, and now look at him.

SPEAKER_01: That's amazing, that's insane.

Yeah, I mean, uh not not only uh look at him, but look at his

age.

He is 19 years old, and um you could um notice it um quite

quite some time that he that he still is uh does not have this

kind of resolve, especially in a national team context, as for

example, a uh Laminia Mal has.

Um but uh there is he has so much potential that I think he

he will he will be uh the central superstar for uh

basically probably hopefully any club he's he's gonna play for in

the future and playing currently.

Of course, currently he he plays at uh RB Leipzig, uh Vedbu

Leipzig.

So um let's see what his uh next station is gonna be because I

think that Leipzig is not able to hold him for much uh much

longer, and at some point the price will be will be high

enough as well.

Then let's go further.

And uh that's a team you have actually seen playing on the

pitch.

Of course, I'm speaking about the Democratic Republic of

Congo, their first appearance in a World Cup since or more than

50 years, since since 52 years to be exact.

Um, and that was quite of quite of a surprise, they they uh in

in regards to their performance on the pitch, right?

SPEAKER_00: I think so.

I think they'll be very, very pleasantly surprised with um

with how they performed in the in the four games they did.

I mean, you know, they they they they got a good start into the

tournament, but uh, you know, when they drew with with they

drew with Portugal, but I do think there's a a bit of a cloud

over Portugal this tournament, and they they just didn't

perform up to up to uh the grade and the level they did do, and

and and so that was a great start to the tournament.

They lost to Colombia, which is you know, I think Colombia, and

we're gonna talk about the Columbia game uh in another

podcast, but I think Colombia have been fantastic this

tournament, and for unfortunately they're now out.

Um beating Uzbekistan, it's just taking care of business.

You know, I didn't I didn't think Uzbekistan were very good,

and then obviously the um the the the 2-1 loss to England in

the knockout stage.

So they're in that group again where I would probably give them

uh because England are obviously in the quarterfinals now, so I'd

give them a um a straight B, Paul.

SPEAKER_01: A straight B.

Yeah, all right.

I would give them a B plus, actually, because um they they

didn't have uh of course they they play their their

continental um tournaments, etc.

But to make that kind of a first appearance uh or in second

appearance in the whole history on of the Democratic Republic of

Congo, also considering the the state of the country in general,

um, which is far from far from stable um anywhere and also

outlooking into the future.

So for that team to um to yeah bring such a uh unified

performance on the pitch uh was was quite quite unexpected and

stunning to me.

Um so I would uh yeah, I would give him give him a B plus there

in the end.

Then going on, we come to Egypt.

Um Egypt started out also quite strong with a one uh one all

against Belgium, um, then a 3-1 over New Zealand, and then a 1-1

against Iran.

I think that's the uh the the chink in the armor there, then

of course a win against Australia, and lastly a quite

dramatic loss against uh against Argentina today.

So um what would you grade um what what grade would you give

would you give to Egypt?

SPEAKER_00: No, let you give him you you give a grade first this

time.

This is a game of tennis ball.

I'm I'm I'm I'm hitting the ball back to you.

You go first this time.

SPEAKER_01: You're you're you're absolutely you're absolutely

right.

Um, so actually, before this game, I I would give them uh

kind of a B minus, uh same for um same for Ivory Coast or same

as Ivory Coast, because I thought that uh till that point

they were quite disappointing because Egypt, I mean, massive

country, more than 100 million people, um, a massive history,

but they never seemed to to get their act together on on the

football pitch.

And um, and the fact that uh that going uh going into the

round of 16 um was uh was a record achievement for for

Egypt.

Um is uh so so now my my my great change from a B minus more

true to a uh to a B plus or maybe even specifically due to

the last game an A minus.

Because I think that um that they really squeezed out

everything, every little bit they had in them.

In in many regards, uh of course the individual performances

today were uh were amazing and much better than before, but

also um as a team they they they acted much more coordinated and

and organized.

So um, yeah, that is uh that is the reason for for my quite good

grade here, especially due to the due to the shift, and that

Egypt finally showed or gave the world an idea that if Egypt

plays um if they if they um got their act together, then they

can be actually quite the formidable opponent on the

pitch.

SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I will give I I would give them an A- as well,

and you're you're dead right.

The game they played today against Argentina was

sensational.

Uh before that they were fairly blah.

And um, you know, unfortunately um Sala is showing his age now

and he's he's he's just not the player that he was.

Um but generally they it was it was quite uh um pulsating today

the way that they played and the way they scored their goals at

the right time.

I think there was a bit of an injustice, which we'll be

talking about in the uh in the next podcast, uh, with regards

to the VAR decisions, etc.

etc.

But still, it was a historic tournament, and they're called

the pharaohs, in case you didn't know that.

Their win um over Australia on penalties in a round of 32 was

Egypt's first ever World Cup knockout victory.

So that has to be taken into consideration as well.

Um, and it was it was um they they've got a rich football

history now, particularly in the last 20 years or so.

This was their just their second appearance in the knockout stage

in history in the World Cup, and that first time was back in

1934.

So uh I will give them an A-Ad.

SPEAKER_01: Then we agree on that as well.

Next one, so we're halfway halfway through.

The sixth African nation is Ghana, and um, I would say that

that Ghana was also more on the on the disappointing side for

me, because um in in games uh, for example, uh against England,

they really showed what their specialty is, um, but they were

not able to exploit that.

So they were uh uh formed an extremely uh efficient, a

defensive and frustrating defensive block, but they lacked

very much on the um on the offensive side, uh, which then

of course gave them uh yeah, and only a nil-nil against England.

Then um, of course, if the first one was a 1-0 against Panama,

you can win much bigger against Panama as uh as being Ghana.

Um, then I think the the one-two loss in the last group stage

game against Croatia.

Um, fair enough, Croatia has been quite the formidable side

as well.

Um, and then a little bit unlucky, um, yeah, the out uh or

the knockout against Colombia than in the round of uh round of

32.

So I would land um at a at a straight B.

Um not more, no more, no less uh for Ghana.

I think that they uh, as I said, work on the if they work on the

offensive side of things, I think they they really um uh

have a much better chance uh next time if they're able to

keep their um their style of play when it comes to just um

staying in their own half and and frustrating every opponent,

uh no matter how how great the the strikers are they are

playing against.

SPEAKER_00: Uh I I also sort of agree.

I I think they're they're B minus.

I think the attack, and this could be the same for most teams

in the World Cup, could have, would have, should have.

If they'd had Kudas, uh the uh the Tottenham player who who I

saw in the last World Cup in in 2022, he was he was a

sensational player there.

Um I think could they would have been a different offensive type

of attacking team.

But you know, they were they were they were fantastic in the

the way they played from a tactical perspective against

England uh in um in Boston.

However, no sorry, was it Boston or New York?

I'm on the road all the time.

Uh they uh they played fantastically well uh there.

It was in Boston.

Uh, but I had a feeling that they wouldn't be able to

maintain that uh because if they could have that discipline, I

think they could have um you know gone on and and and

potentially beaten a Columbia.

That was the game we saw when we the first night we were in

Mexico City.

And um uh Columbia, I thought, should have should have scored

three or four goals in that game.

So uh I would I would give them a B minus uh with obviously the

positive uh salvation point for them was that that um draw

against England where they really did play well and um and

and had England rattled.

SPEAKER_01: Yeah.

Alright, then the only now coming to the only African team

which is still remaining in the competition, and that is of

course Morocco.

Um I think that starting with the one one against Brazil um

already showed that that I mean everybody knew already from from

the last World Cup, of course.

that uh that morocco is no joke uh quite quite the opposite um a

1 0 against a very uh very um fierce uh fiercely fighting

scotland could have been a little a little higher there um

not specifically uh in the game but but for for morocco

standards in general and now to the game which leads me to not

giving um giving an a to morocco uh that of course is the 4-2 win

against haiti um that was the the game where morocco was

mostly uh most disorganized so far um and i think that as a as

a one of the best teams you must be able to not underestimate

your opponents i think that is that is very very very very very

important and um we've seen uh very good sides uh for example

uh argentina against cape verde i think was a classic example

for for them just they they didn't take cape verde really

seriously um as an opponent and um i think that morocco did kind

of the the same mistake there um then uh a beautiful game against

uh against the netherlands um of course quite close it went to

the to to penalties and then morocco just had the stronger

nerves and of course it always comes to comes to luck in the

end there as well and uh then 3-0 against canada solid win

could have been a little higher even in my opinion and now

facing france in the round of uh what is it then round of eight

right yeah the the the quarter the the quarter final so morocco

for me gets a uh gets an a minus um which of course could be

exchanged with an uh for an a plus uh depending on the future

performance what do you think about uh morocco so far you've

you've glossed over in the middle there an a you go from a

minus to a plus i think i i i would give them an a um you know

they were in a they were in a group where they were expected

to go through they you know they they tied brazil on points uh

with identical identical records both played three both won two

what both drew one you know against each other and they

ended up in seven points um I think they're very very

dangerous I mean that the game against uh the the Netherlands

what the Netherlands turned up in this tournament and did

better uh than we thought they were going to do or I thought

they were going to do uh they took handily took care of

business against Canada and um most of the fans um of the of

the teams in the quarterfinals are going to be on the side of

Morocco when they play France on Thursday uh and most of the

neutral fans in the world are also going to want Morocco to

upset France in many respects simply because a France are so

good um both on paper and on the pitch and and and b there seems

to be a level of predictability that France are going to go the

whole way because they played so well so I think Morocco a a big

massive banana skin potential banana skin for France uh in

Boston on Thursday and if if um if France win that game because

France really need a tough game they've they've had some fairly

easy games so far so I'm sure the French really want to play

uh a a tough game and win um and it's gonna just gonna be

interesting because of all of the historical cultural um and

social ties between um the two countries uh but I actually

think Morocco are a very very good team uh so that's the

reason you know that that they are obviously the best

performing side um they they got to the semi-finals in 2022 and

they've they've built upon that so solid A and if they go on

into the semi-finals and potentially into the final you

know if we're having this discussion again down the road

I'd be giving them an A plus yeah all right um now coming to

um my second biggest uh or maybe even even biggest favorite

before before the start of the World Cup um definitely um at

least on a tie with Morocco Senegal Senegal um quite

disappointing uh starting with a one three loss against France

which is which is kind of fair I guess um then a two three loss

against Norway which is a little bit more problematic I would say

um because Senegal usually has also a stronger defense so

basically what what what Ghana is lacking um in on on the

offense Senegal has it um then a 5-0 win against Iraq and then of

course the round of 32 loss against Belgium in a in a 3-2 um

I think that they that they quite massively underperformed

um they managed in in January this year to to win the Afcon

title on the pitch at least uh against said Morocco so uh

disappointing for me um so Senegal will get a B minus for

me there.

What about you Declan?

SPEAKER_00: I'm exactly the same like you you you you read my

mind uh I think their expectations uh particularly

with all of the Afcon business early on this year uh they they

they they in Morocco in my opinion are the are the two top

nations in in Afcom and they they they will look in the

mirror and say that you know although you know they lost in

that game against France 3-1 they lost to Norway 3-1 uh sorry

3-2 um but they beat Iraq handily and then the game

against Belgium I think Belgium was a relatively poor team that

to go out to them I think based on expectations going into the

tournament Senegal will be extremely disappointed with the

fact that they haven't managed to um uh copy uh and mirror

Morocco getting into the quarterfinals so I'll give them

a B minus as well all right now from the unexpected

disappointments um more to the expectment I mean it's probably

not even not even a disappointment because it

because we all probably didn't expect anything from um from

these last two sides so number nine is South Africa um of

course played the opening match against Mexico by the way again

as a just a fun fact same opening game as when they were

hosting the World Cup in 2010 they also played against Mexico

and if um uh if I think uh if I remember correctly this game

they actually won against Mexico 1-0 then second game a one one

against Czechia I would say um definitely a big improvement to

to the game against Mexico because that was just a horrible

performance uh really then kind of a I would say surprise win

against South Korea and also a surprise loss with only uh

losing uh no one to to Canada um so all things considered I would

give uh I would give South Africa um of course also

considering what what what they usually are able to to play uh

which is kind of in that ballpark um on average um I

would give them a B minus as well um didn't really expect uh

anything more from them um but of course you you always can do

better uh especially uh than uh than what they've shown in the

first match I think that if you play like this in a world cup

you're definitely not sorry but you're definitely not worthy um

to to play uh to play in a world cup and I think that this

performance actually managed to um to uh be the even worse than

the German performance uh uh both against uh or especially uh

against against Paraguay that's very controversial we don't we

don't need to bring Germany into this talking about African

nations Paul um no i i I would give uh South Africa a very

solid C not because they you know they they they over the

whole tournament did particularly well but that first

game against Mexico yes they were playing in the Azteca yes

you had an incredible atmosphere and the the whole nation of

Mexico trying to um you know obviously get Mexico off as a as

a host nation to the a good start I thought they were pretty

atrocious in that game they looked really I I I worried

about them that they would not score a goal and that they would

be uh a a bit like our friends from Tunisia you know tails

between their legs going home as quickly as possible and hiding

in the shadows back in Johannesburg and and Cape Town

but that first game was miserable for them they showed a

lot of character in the next two games uh against Czechia and

against the South Korea um and and you know you can see with

their results in the in the group games that there was a

gradual improvement in the results lost the first game drew

the second game and then caused a surprise with South Korea so

you know where I'm where I was disappointed with their

performance was against Canada because they should have

continued that momentum there and given a better account of

themselves against Canada uh so I would give them a C but really

because of the middle two games uh the game against Canada and

the game against Mexico were were were not very good

performances but uh uh when all of a sudden done they you know

they they they're still building their nation and they're they're

if you remember from one of the earlier podcasts that the vast

majority of their players play on one or two teams in South

Africa so they don't have many international players so you

know as a nation they can be somewhat proud of the way they

um they played they can be proud of the fact they did get into

the round of 32 but again plenty of room for improvement yeah

absolutely I I have to uh re-evaluate my grade I

definitely also am more on the C side um probably also solid C

not because uh you uh because you uh persuaded me um or

because I'm I'm always doing what what Declan Link says uh

but just because really um due to that due to their first

performance um uh absolutely atrocious um um they're not not

worthy not worthy of a B there now last African nation and

definitely worst performing African nation in this

tournament tunisia tunisia um suffered heavy losses in all of

their games um it was a started out with a 1-5 loss against

Sweden after which their coach was sacked by the FA uh quite

controversially then a 0-4 loss against Japan and then I would

say quite a surprising result against the Netherlands uh with

only losing 1-3 um but all things considered I must give

them maybe a D.

SPEAKER_01: A D is uh is I think I would give them an E, the

worst grade there is of course but um the last game against the

Netherlands showed that um they have a little bit some something

else in them um but of course not enough against the the

Netherlands so I'm I'm gonna land on a D for Tunisia well I'm

gonna land on an F F of failure Sweden 5-1 Japan 4-0 Netherlands

3-1 they they they are a a dangerous North African team who

obviously have you know serious issues in their camp uh they

didn't really they they turned up because physically they were

there but they didn't turn up and um the fact that the coach

was fired after the first game says it all so they uh in in my

humble opinion uh were were the were the one team that really

brought down um the African Confederation uh you know as I

said at the beginning they they nine out of the ten reached the

round of 32 which is that 90% advance rate tunisia left the

continent very um you know they they didn't perform and uh the

whole continent should be disappointed with Tunisia um but

again onwards they go there'll be more tournaments in the

future and it'll be a learning lesson and hopefully most of the

most of the North African teams in particular uh always have a

fantastic um hardworking culture they they they they will want to

make amends uh and and they'll probably come back stronger but

as as it relates to this particular tournament it's a

solid F I'm afraid for failure all right yeah that's it so um

now after having done the um the South American or or Latin

American uh sites um and the evaluation of Latin American

sites now the African sites of course um northern american um

asia uh Asian sites and european sites um are still missing um

and of course oceania um as well we're gonna uh do that um at a

later point in time for now thank you so much declan um was

a was a very very interesting interesting one it's always nice

um I mean we're probably gonna do some uh other evaluations

after the World Cup ends but um always uh also nice during this

longest of of World Cup um tournaments so far um to uh to

reflect a little bit on on what had actually happened since uh

yeah tomorrow is the only uh the only day so far or the first day

that we're actually gonna take a break from from watching games.

So yeah always nice.

Thank you so much Declan and uh have a good one.

Speak to you tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00: As always Paul thank you very much for your valuable

time and uh have a good evening