The MOU is over! - 'Japan' Fires on USS Lincoln - Ukraine to manufacture Patriot Missiles

Trump goes back to Iran with the kind of rhetoric that turns diplomacy into debris, then piles on with strikes and threats that make the MOU look functionally dead. We break down how you get from “negotiations” to escalation in a single news cycle, why the Strait of Hormuz is the economic tripwire hiding in plain sight, and how sanctions policy can boomerang into higher oil prices and political pain at home. If you care about U.S. foreign policy, Middle East security, and the global economy, the details here are the difference between analysis and vibes.

We also slow down on something most pundits skip: targeting and the laws of armed conflict. Talk about bombing bridges, power plants, or desalination isn’t just “tough talk,” it brushes up against civilian protection rules, proportionality, and what counts as an unlawful strike. Then we look at the military reality behind chest-thumping ideas like seizing and holding terrain, especially in a world of drones, missiles, and contested air defenses.

From NATO awkwardness to sudden policy freelancing on Turkey and even Spain, the throughline is unpredictability, and that raises the bigger governance question: where is Congress when war powers are treated like a suggestion? We end with a rapid-fire mental fitness montage, a clip that sounds like an anime nightmare, and a final palate cleanser featuring a cat, a live rat, and the most chaotic “gift” imaginable. If this conversation sharpens your thinking, subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review, then tell us what you think the smartest off ramp is.

Chapter Markers

• 0:00 Cold Open, Sponsor, And Setup
• 2:09 Wild 24 Hours And MOU Talk
• 4:46 Tanker Attacks And Escalation Spiral
• 6:44 Bombing Bravado And War Crime Lines
• 12:49 Karg Island And Ground War Reality
• 14:12 Israel Strikes And Regime Change Claims
• 21:52 The Best Exit Is Walking Away
• 23:09 Congress, War Powers, And Impeachment
• 25:04 NATO Gaffes And Mental Fitness Alarms
• 41:27 Rough Riders Clip And Naughty Kitty

[SPEAKER_00]: Man, so here we go everybody, the definition of an insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results while president Trump

[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, has attacked Iran and once again, appears to be walking away from the MOU.

[SPEAKER_00]: This, in a rash of other statements and unilateral decisions such as bombing Iran without authorization, once again.

[SPEAKER_00]: And a series of public statements have last few days is not only insanity on display, but it once again calls in his,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright everybody, it is Wednesday, July 8th.

[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to another live edition of the Jim Web Podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am your host, Jim Web.

[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, we're here.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you get me solo today.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, I would love your participation.

[SPEAKER_00]: Drop your comments in the chats and if you really want to ask a question and get involved.

[SPEAKER_00]: It will catch my attention if you drop a super chat in there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I can encourage you to do that, but hey, man, what a wild 24 hours.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I was coming on here to run my mouth about the NATO conference in F-35s and kind of a weird switch between what looked like Trump going towards the Turks.

[SPEAKER_00]: As a, you know, our ally, if you will, you always, all of a sudden started praising them and talking about how they're a better ally than Israel.

[SPEAKER_00]: that create a spat between Erdogan and Netanyahu and then Mano Man is stuff pop off.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it looks like the MOU is kind of dead.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we have a video of Trump talking about how it's over.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this is fire over.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's the few fire done is the MOU dead.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a very interesting question.

[SPEAKER_04]: To me, I think it's over.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to deal with them anymore.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's scum, you know, scum is, there's scum.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's sick people, they're led by sick people.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they're vicious violent people.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if they had a nuclear weapon that used it, as far as I'm concerned, it's over.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'll speak to our negotiators, they want to negotiate.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're good people.

[SPEAKER_04]: Steve Woodcoff, Jared Kushner, but they have to come back to me.

[SPEAKER_04]: As far as I'm concerned, it's just a waste of time dealing with them, they're liars.

[SPEAKER_04]: We make a deal.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if I make a deal with him, we have a deal, and he goes out, he talks.

[SPEAKER_04]: We make a deal.

[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone's agreed.

[SPEAKER_04]: No nuclear weapon.

[SPEAKER_04]: We make a deal.

[SPEAKER_04]: They go outside, talk to the press.

[SPEAKER_04]: They say we never even talked about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's something wrong with them.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're cuckoo.

[SPEAKER_04]: So there's not concern yourself.

[SPEAKER_00]: So let's unpack that a little bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now I will say there's a little bit of a white space in there where he did give the option to Kushner Whitkoff.

[SPEAKER_00]: To continue negotiations, but straight up, that is not a rational statement whatsoever.

[SPEAKER_00]: And to think that you can bomb somebody in the middle of negotiations, as we've been doing, for quite some time, and think you have some sort of diplomatic in is just completely out there.

[SPEAKER_00]: and it's got, we're going to get into this a little bit, but there's a series of statements coming out that really calling this guy's mental fitness, but before we get into that, let's run down exactly how we got to this place in the last 24-hour genome.

[SPEAKER_00]: Iran apparently attacked three tanker ships out in the Gulf.

[SPEAKER_00]: They were using the Omani side of the straits of Hormuz to get through.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is against the rules, if you will.

[SPEAKER_00]: Even the Omanis are talking to the Iranians about how they want to have some sort of toll on their side.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're working with them.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this was why these ships were doing this, we don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the Iranians sent them a message.

[SPEAKER_00]: They popped them.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then we turned around.

[SPEAKER_00]: hit some pretty extensive targets around the area, including Carr Island, and we have a video of this in a second, and we'll get to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it was significant enough where the Iranians retaliated by hitting Kuwait and Bahrain, and they've promised more attacks.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've promised more attacks, and it looks like this is very much accelerating.

[SPEAKER_00]: Also, in the middle of this, the exemption for sanctions,

[SPEAKER_00]: on Iranian oil has been canceled.

[SPEAKER_00]: So those sanctions are back on.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a major, major, linchpin in the entire MOU and the agreement and any kind of hope that we're going to have a diplomatic settlement here.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what does not make sense about this is that once again, this is just counterintuitive.

[SPEAKER_00]: The problem with the straight being closed is the domestic and global economy.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we need to have it open.

[SPEAKER_00]: We need to have everything stabilized.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you talk about Trump's own self-interest.

[SPEAKER_00]: The American public tends to vote with their checkbooks.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if you wanted any hope of any kind of recovery before the midterm's as fault, this had to stay in place.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you wanted any kind of hope for his own legacy, somebody running from his cabinet in the next election, he needed this to stick.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we talked about this a bit about how JD events needed that in particular yesterday.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so we have another clip here about the extent of the bombing and man, just pay attention to the language on this and how he's talking and joking about killing people.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now the tack in at the highest level, the highest level of bridges there, which we can knock down.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would say in one day, we knock down every single bridge in a ramp.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's not a thing they can do about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: facilities, right, electric plants, where they make their electricity there.

[SPEAKER_04]: We will, if we have to, we'll take them out.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to do that, but if we have to, we'll take them out.

[SPEAKER_04]: They have decalization plans.

[SPEAKER_04]: We'll take them out if we have to.

[SPEAKER_04]: I hate to do that.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably the one I would like not to do, least.

[SPEAKER_04]: We attacked Carl Gylen last night with knocked out a piece.

[SPEAKER_04]: I said, don't touch the UN.

[SPEAKER_04]: because maybe we'll take over a car go on.

[SPEAKER_04]: We may take over a car go on.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a thing they can do about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I said don't hit the pipes.

[SPEAKER_04]: Just hit everything else.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they hit it.

[SPEAKER_04]: They may hit it again tonight.

[SPEAKER_04]: So as for your question, normally I'm not that way.

[SPEAKER_04]: But they really deserve it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because they're saying they want to make a deal but they ask for a timeout.

[SPEAKER_04]: They wanted to go to the funeral of Comini.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they search you through missiles.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm here with the crazy thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, we could kill them.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I guess you have to look at it in that way.

[SPEAKER_04]: But the funeral took place.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they wanted to have a period of time.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they also asked that we not killed them.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we said, we're not going to kill you.

[SPEAKER_04]: We were killed during the funeral and I think I believe what a crazy it did you ever think I'd be doing this for a living?

[SPEAKER_04]: Mark, did anybody have anything I'm doing?

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe Pete, but this was supposed to be Pete.

[SPEAKER_00]: Pete love this stuff from day one Oh man, so where to start with that that is like four different conversations he's having in his head that ended up

[SPEAKER_00]: building into one singular monologue at the same time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprising it come out as complete word salad to be honest.

[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're joking about, yeah, good grief is right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Joking about killing people and the whole framing of this, right, is just beyond the pale to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: But when you start looking at the motivation for him doing this, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds deeply personal to him.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is not

[SPEAKER_00]: a man who is trying to negotiate an agreement on behalf of a country, or the betterment of a people, it's something very deeply personal to him.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have insulted him.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're not engaging in the correct amount of Trumpian diplomacy, and it is just wacky.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I also understand his sentiment about not hitting bridges, and

[SPEAKER_00]: desalination plants and the rest of it because those are very much strictly civilian targets and taking out somebody's desalination capabilities would be straight up work on without a question.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at our own laws of arm conflict, when you start hitting targets,

[SPEAKER_00]: even the factories he's talking about in there.

[SPEAKER_00]: There has to be a direct military use for all of these, like I'll pull a bridge out, for example, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if they're using that bridge to move troops, either too contact or retreat or something like that, and in a very much a military manner, yeah, then you can hit the bridge, you can take it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're just bombing bridges,

[SPEAKER_00]: For the sake of bombing bridges because you want to destroy their infrastructure, that is the deliberate targeting of civilians.

[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing goes if you want to hit power plants.

[SPEAKER_00]: If it is a power plant that is providing electricity to a factory that is manufacturing tanks or in Iran's case drones or missiles, and that is the predominant use of that power facility.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not part is got to be the predominant use.

[SPEAKER_00]: Then the illegitimate target, but you have to take in the secondary and tertiary considerations what happens to civilians in the back end, say, let's say you hit that plant or not public apartment or that plant or yeah, power plant.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it cuts off electricity to a hospital, a civilian hospital.

[SPEAKER_00]: Then no, that is a workron because your targeting civilians deliberately.

[SPEAKER_00]: the logic in him getting out there and doing this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think what he's trying to do, I'm not gonna try and get him his head too much on this because it seems to be a pretty wild place right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: But he's trying to send a message to them that we have some sort of flex that we can do.

[SPEAKER_00]: We can do these different things and impact them on the ground.

[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, he calls them pain in the middle of a negotiation.

[SPEAKER_00]: He thinks it's a, it is a,

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I guess an additional negotiating point like I mean, let's go back to New York City where he's from like if you're trying to get a piece property, maybe it's in the best interest of the person owns that piece property that you sell it to him because you might have the mob come in and throw a fire bomb in there or whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, highly illegal.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it seems to be a bit of a parallel to what we have going on here, so maybe that's how it makes sense to them.

[SPEAKER_00]: But if you are trying to reopen a major waterway on behalf of the larger community of the world, because it closed because you made a horrific decision a couple months ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: then this does not work because there is absolutely no leverage in what he is doing, bombing Iran continuously or even taking out their civilian electrical grid or their bridges is not something that's going to change their mind.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to make them dig in more and probably re-close a straight-up for moves, because that would be enough justification.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right there with the deliberate attacking of civilian targets for the range turned into global community and say, Hey, I guess what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like we got no choice.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the likelihood of him doing this I hope is very small but at the same time if he did it, it would get us nowhere.

[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, I hope the likelihood of it is very very small

[SPEAKER_00]: The piece about Carg Island in there, like holy cow man, like we're really thinking once again about dropping ground troops on Carg Island and taking it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And for him to state that there is nothing that they can do is either he is either just making shit up on the fly, which is very, very, very possible.

[SPEAKER_00]: Or he's getting some really bad advice because if you talk to anybody who has been in a ground combat unit, and like I'm talking like, you could probably pull up a Lance Corporal.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, and about the vulnerabilities of going static, like once you stop moving, if you're trying to hold terrain, you just become a big target, and we have not seen the full extent of Iranian capabilities throughout this war at all, um, missing big point missing FPV drones.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have not been under fire from those at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let alone that some 70% of their missile stockpile, which is still there, and they proved

[SPEAKER_00]: What would prevent them from turning that on our forces on car island?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we would have no defenses.

[SPEAKER_00]: We couldn't shoot down these missiles when they were come in after our most critical infrastructure in the region.

[SPEAKER_00]: So moving a bunch of ground troops out in the open outside of the umbrella that has already been destroyed and in effective is not going to move the needle.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there's also some other stuff out here, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping there was some daylight over the past couple days, but I think he is getting his margin orders because this does only benefit the Israelis.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because it reopens the war and if you take a look at what they did yesterday, they hit some targets and Gaza killed three people who were

[SPEAKER_00]: getting together to watch a real cut match.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then for people in Lebanon and a target to strike, including a couple of women who were going back apparently to check a house.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a mother, a grandmother, and then two other people in the vehicle.

[SPEAKER_00]: And those are all gross violations of what this MOU is not only about, but also like in

[SPEAKER_00]: like the strict rules of the game, if you will.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can say the spear to the deal is violated, but also the rules of the game were totally shredded.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what makes me kind of nervous about here, all this here in terms of where all this is headed is his rhetoric has flipped back to where it was

[SPEAKER_00]: when he was trying to justify the ongoing strikes a couple of months ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: So he's out there saying that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard killed 54,000 protesters, that is an inflation of

[SPEAKER_00]: the 40,000 figure that he continuously floated out there over and over and over again.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then you start looking at people actually counting this.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's 7,000, which is not insignificant.

[SPEAKER_00]: Iranians are counting 3,100, which is still a large number of people, but they're couching that.

[SPEAKER_00]: with the fact that they're saying, hey man, like there were Israeli and American agitators who were armed and in there and if you look at various media clips from all, you know, from from the time period, you have folks like Lindsey Graham and other people, you know, in effect stating that yeah, like we were taking, you know, we were taking part in this.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's some some truth to it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'll read this in a second, Chris, my contact spending in my eye.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's really troublesome that he is flipping back to this hardcore rhetoric about how this regime needs to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: And quite flatly,

[SPEAKER_00]: Where are the bodies?

[SPEAKER_00]: If there are 54,000, if there are 40,000 dead, those are numbers from day one of the Psalm in World War I, which was the largest loss of single day loss of life and the history of the British military.

[SPEAKER_00]: you know, you'd be able to see mass graves, you'd be able to see bodies.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just hide this stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's strictly, I don't even, I'm just, I'm getting so worked up thinking about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just, it's such crap.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact he's bringing this back in now really calls into question whether or not we are out of the woods on this, but also the fact that he's undermining his own,

[SPEAKER_00]: arc to get himself out from underneath this mess in such an aggressive fashion in front of NATO speaks to the fact that it really appears that this guy is coming totally unhinged at the moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll roll into something here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I saw some really good tweets from Brett Erickson on x earlier.

[SPEAKER_00]: kind of an oil expert money guy he doesn't have a huge following but he is worth the read if you get the time and to follow him but his questions centered around like where's the leverage in all this like what are what how does this make sense

[SPEAKER_00]: Let me talk about how it's specifically Iran could have a 1 billion windfall on oil profits over the 60 day window prior to them canceling the exemption overnight.

[SPEAKER_00]: But that really doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.

[SPEAKER_00]: on the damage that has been done inside the country.

[SPEAKER_00]: But so it's counterintuitive because the damage externally to the global economy is so much greater and they have exported apparently twice the amount of oil over the past couple of days that they, over a past couple of weeks since we really got the straight open.

[SPEAKER_00]: that they typically do, but that hasn't made a dent in the demand signals from the global community.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they're pumping it out, they're trying to clear out the Gulf, but we externally have not recovered.

[SPEAKER_00]: They internally are looking at getting a pretty good chunk of change for their troubles, but it doesn't

[SPEAKER_00]: finish anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't fix anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what overall this does accomplish is the complete destruction of the MOU.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's totally foolish to do this is what Ericson says, I tend to agree with this 100%.

[SPEAKER_00]: but it appears to be in a quest to gain leverage over the Iranians via threats, coercion, intimidation, demonstrating that we can use force.

[SPEAKER_00]: But we already demonstrated we could use force and it didn't move the needle at all.

[SPEAKER_00]: We had to go to them and get a document that was very unilateral in a way that the United States is not used to.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was completely unilateral on the

[SPEAKER_00]: the side of Iran, they got everything they wanted out of this and it was us effectively begging and pleading for them to reopen the world's economy and take some pressure off of the United States and our allies.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of a wrap on on where we are with that and I do not have a warm and fuzzy feeling about where this has headed because

[SPEAKER_00]: He could be just blowing hot smoke, pop and off, having some sort of mental episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it clearly looks like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're ready to get us some clips here in a second that very much demonstrate that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, this has real tangible consequences throughout the world.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it is completely on the Iranians to be the cooler head in this.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a pattern over US foreign policy over the last really.

[SPEAKER_00]: not the last 10 years, but going back to the early days of the Ukraine war with Biden, where strategic patience and the delay in escalation of that conflict is completely unputin.

[SPEAKER_00]: Here, same deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have a president who is going absolutely out of his mind looking like he's trying to start a war all over again.

[SPEAKER_00]: it is in nobody's interest except the Israelis.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will state that.

[SPEAKER_00]: There is one country that has an interest in this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not the Iranians interest, not the interest of any country around the world.

[SPEAKER_00]: But we are relying on the people we are attacking to have a cool head and response slowly, which is something if you understand our own history, we would not do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Flat out, but we're doing it again.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there comes a certain point where the global community or the countries we're attacking, are just going to say, you know what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hear this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gloves are off.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're coming for you.

[SPEAKER_00]: And what that looks like is, who knows?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not going to be the Persian Empire,

[SPEAKER_00]: Coming across the gates at their map, or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: There are all kinds of other means, particularly economic that are out there, that I think people are taking a good hard look at.

[SPEAKER_00]: because if you couple our aggressive military action with our sanctions regime, which is economic warfare, people don't want to deal with this anymore.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is case and point why.

[SPEAKER_00]: We are completely unpredictable and increasingly unstable in terms of our leadership and as a country.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that makes me really upset because America is full of such awesome people who want no part of this.

[SPEAKER_00]: So,

[SPEAKER_00]: how do we get out of this before we get into the mental fitness?

[SPEAKER_00]: How do we get out of this?

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to go back to Joe Kent once again.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has the best solution and it is to walk away.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have to walk away.

[SPEAKER_00]: And quite flatly after the last 24 hours, we may have no other option.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then just to say, you know what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Our bad, sorry, we're out, you know, we're done.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't know how you get back to negotiating table after

[SPEAKER_00]: after his public statements after aggressively bombing around once again, and yeah, but on the flip side, I don't know if there are people in the policy realm on the inside of the administration, who

[SPEAKER_00]: are capable of pushing that idea all the way forward because we keep slipping back into some kind of neocon wet dream in terms of what we're doing over there and it doesn't seem like a guy like JD Vance or any of the people who were aligned with realism and restraint on the inside are capable of getting their points across.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's maybe like five minutes or a day or two, but then immediately flip back.

[SPEAKER_00]: And one last point here is, you know, this, I'm going to sound like a broken record

[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas Congress on this, if you guys remember, the hostilities terminated, Trump submitted the termination of hostilities with Iran on May 1st, and if you're going to do something like this, you have to notify Congress.

[SPEAKER_00]: like you can't just unilaterally attack another country you have to have some sort of justification some sort of justice it just just pick something I don't know like a pigeon from Iran flew over the Gulf and it made our sailors on a destroyer nervous like you know make some BS up if you need to but when you have an imperial presidency

[SPEAKER_00]: that is completely savaging our entire system of government from top to bottom and war is the most important piece of this constitutionally.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you get the declaration of war powers in the constitution where you do and it lies strictly with the legislature.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have to have Congress pop up at some point and assert themselves and say, you know, by the way, we are a co-equal branch of government and reclaim their power.

[SPEAKER_00]: And at this point, I'm gonna use the impeachment word.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is, you know, this is clearly an impeachable offense what we did last night.

[SPEAKER_00]: What he did last night.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because there is no written justification, there was no threat to American forces.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is strictly in retaliation for the Iranians doing something that pertain to their own interests.

[SPEAKER_00]: As far as I know, there is no threat to U.S. forces.

[SPEAKER_00]: These ships weren't even U.S. flagged.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if there's something out there that justify this, I would love to have somebody at least publish it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So.

[SPEAKER_00]: Moving on from there, this gets into the bigger question of Trump's mental fitness.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, let's start Chris, let's start with cutting trade with Spain.

[SPEAKER_00]: Holy cow, in real time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was the craziest thing we're gonna talk about today.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's out there somewhere, I think.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I don't want him to waste his time answering that question because it will work in very closely with Marco Rubio, very famous man, great secretary of state and with Scott Bassett and with Pete and everybody else, we're going to be taking the sanctions off.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's time to do that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we don't want to sanction friends, it's real simple.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to sanction friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all right.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the the sanctions that he's talking about, um, I believe Chris putting the F 35 my correct with that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you notice Erdogan throws it thumb up.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was like real time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody knew it was coming.

[SPEAKER_02]: Erdogan was like, what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, baby.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knew.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Marka Rubio looked like somebody like,

[SPEAKER_00]: piston is Cheerios to be quite frank, but so as a refresher, the sanctions on Turkey with the F-35 were there primarily because of them adopting Russian air defense systems.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I, you know, I could like, I can kind of understand that, you know, they didn't want to have the F-35 integrated into the S-400 because the S-400 and all of those high-end series that are Russian are,

[SPEAKER_00]: They're enterprise systems, so they learn and they share.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if it learns the F-35's radar signature, it shares it, and there's no telling, excuse me, we're looking at end up prions up back in Moscow and completely ruins the stealth capabilities of that aircraft.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, my personal opinion on this,

[SPEAKER_00]: Is that that the F-35 is an absolute boom doggle and it has been around for a couple of decades slowly get off the ground and we've used enough that people probably understand how to find it.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we had one hit over Iran if you remember a couple months ago, but that wasn't radar based it was looking at which I are went right at the tailpipe one of the missiles.

[SPEAKER_00]: But people are figuring out it's not as new and flashy as you think it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, like, I'm not totally against this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little confused by by what he's doing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why he would do that at this time and at the end of the day.

[SPEAKER_00]: Turkey is ostensibly on paper, a NATO ally in our sphere, and it would be better to have good relations with them than say Israel, or any number of other countries.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, one of the, one of the giant pieces of the, of the puzzle here that Turkey completed for a long time during the Cold War was

[SPEAKER_00]: They bottled up a little bit or at least have to keep a ability to bottle up rushes black sea fleet because they have to pass right through the straight right there in order to get out into the med and the Russians are not blessed with a whole lot of warm weather ports.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, but when you're talking about the ability to contain the USSR back in the day, that's a big deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: We also have a new exterior too.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's also a big piece of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you want to be nice to them.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that he's out there, just being like, oh, yeah, no more sanctions has enough right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like clearly unscripted, Erdogan is obviously super happy about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Marco Rubio is super confused, looks super exasperated.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when you get to look like that,

[SPEAKER_00]: in public from an official like Rubio who is as polished as he is, you know, that means there's a lot going on in the background that he is uncomfortable with, and it's a kind of a slap in the face to him.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is a secretary of state.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he might want to have a say in that because that is his job.

[SPEAKER_00]: But so this is the fun one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Next up is the...

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe I'm going to say this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cutting,

[SPEAKER_04]: We don't want to do any trade business with spend any more, by the way, like you, cut her up.

[SPEAKER_04]: Again, Spain is a terrible partner in NATO, they don't participate, they don't pay.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want anything to do with Spain.

[SPEAKER_04]: Cut off all trade with Spain, please.

[SPEAKER_04]: including visits okay we don't want anything to do watch them watch them come running back all they'll come running back they treat this man terribly but we don't have to we don't have to trade with them I don't want to do any more trade with them alright make it immediately don't even talk to them they're hopeless bad people because you know they they have everybody else going and paying and working

[SPEAKER_04]: It's been in particular Spain, there are a couple of others, but in particular Spain, they're open about it, they're hostile about it, and let's see how hostile they remain when they call up and they, please, please, we want to train with you, sir, we want to train with you, sir.

[SPEAKER_04]: It makes so much money with us, and we're going to see that they make a lot less.

[SPEAKER_04]: I want no business with them.

[SPEAKER_00]: and oh man, glad it's all about him right, you know, it's, uh, so Spain.

[SPEAKER_00]: Spain of all countries, you're going to pick them out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I understand there's a little bit of, uh, you know, a little bit of heartburn about how they would not allow us to use their bases for attacks.

[SPEAKER_00]: on Iran.

[SPEAKER_00]: But that's their prerogative.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing in the NATO charter or the NATO treaty that says that we're entitled to use their airfields to launch an offensive war that is not in their interests whatsoever.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that should actually tell

[SPEAKER_00]: Trump, the fact that they denied the use of those airfields, a bit about the morality of what we were doing, and also just the lack of common sense in starting that fight in the first place.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so we've got Aaron Hamby here in web.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this is used to mad about the world cup.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess, like I would have hoped personally that

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, something as caddy as this would have followed Spain blowing out the U.S. in the next round, which would have happened should they we have gotten through Belgium, which didn't happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: But otherwise, this is just ridiculous.

[SPEAKER_00]: And also, once again, pay attention to how deeply personal this is to him.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's I, I don't want to do this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to trade with Spain.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it's, it has nothing to do with the interest of the American people, the Spanish or NATO broadly, and I have my criticisms of NATO, I think in terms of an alliance, it is outdated, it was designed for the Soviet Union, but, you know, there's.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a very important piece here that gets left out constantly.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fact that we have deep, cultural ties to Europe.

[SPEAKER_00]: Our entire system of government is based on European models.

[SPEAKER_00]: Adjusted a bit, you know, fairly.

[SPEAKER_00]: But they colonized the United States, I live, I was at a Pensacola Florida, which the Spanish.

[SPEAKER_00]: settled.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have all kinds of long-standing traditions, both democratic, cultural, and religious, and having that link is very, very important to the United States, because nowhere else in the world, at least that I know, shares those kinds of values, and we keep pushing them away.

[SPEAKER_00]: And,

[SPEAKER_00]: This makes very, very little sense, particularly in the context of what is going on, and a broader picture, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: We have the emergence of bricks, and we have made it our mission to try and smash bricks, literally, one of their countries, two of their countries, really, both Russia and Iran.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has had unbelievable rhetoric with the Chinese.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you remember back in the first administration,

[SPEAKER_00]: And it is where we are at odds now with our own allies who have backed us for a very, very, very long time.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can say we go back to World War II.

[SPEAKER_00]: In reality, it's much further than that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Much, much further than that.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of, you know, maybe for their own selfish interest at the time, but both the Spanish and the French wanted us to break away from the British empire during the revolution.

[SPEAKER_00]: He probably does not understand that.

[SPEAKER_00]: but you know, it's a very important part.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's part of this linkage that goes back generations and decades and it should be preserved on some level and he's out there tearing us all up in real time.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I can only hope that the leaders in this country understand that he is not indicative of the the American people broadly and but I guess we're going to find out because at some point we're going to have a ton of muck to clean up.

[SPEAKER_00]: So more like so let's get let's get specific into his mental state here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chris, where's a good place to go from here.

[SPEAKER_00]: We want to go with him, deciding to license the Ukrainians to produce Patriots because that's fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's out of that's office rocker.

[SPEAKER_00]: Or are we going to bring up his comments with the rough writers?

[SPEAKER_02]: we got to save rough riders for last.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, but right before the show started, everybody Trump, once again, announced, you know, laterally, as far as I know, there's been no discussion about this, whatsoever, that he is going to give the Ukrainians license to produce Patriot missiles inside of Ukraine.

[SPEAKER_04]: A little birdie told me this about the fact that we'll give them the right to make patriots.

[SPEAKER_04]: We'll show them how to do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's very complex, actually.

[SPEAKER_04]: But it's, you'll figure out the complexity quickly.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we're talking about that.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we'll, the company that makes them, which is building now four plants.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, all of our companies will be able to do this in two to three months if you order a picture, now you have to wait a long time for them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Same thing with Tom Hock.

[SPEAKER_04]: We have a lot of certain equipment.

[SPEAKER_04]: but with the they call it the elite equipment and you don't need a elite equipment necessarily for a war but so what are the things we're going to be talking about is you'll we're going to give a license to you to make it's just pretty cool this way you can't complain that we're not giving them enough it's a make of yourself we have informed the company of that yet but that will have it for a company should they'll be through but you know they'll be able to do it

[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't informed the company yet, uh, who makes pages.

[SPEAKER_03]: Breaking this stuff up in real time, Jim.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is something to behold and, uh, by the way, two things, uh, Jen, I do agree Chris is doing a great job.

[SPEAKER_00]: He brought his A game today and it is so much appreciated on my end.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like the little bird that flew across that was awesome.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, at Banybox here, I don't know if we should laugh or cry.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is so darkly hilarious.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like a monopython skit that went completely off the rails to be honest.

[SPEAKER_00]: Brother context here with the manufacturing of Patriots, you'll note that that was RT.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guarantee you that the Russians are not happy about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that is something we should be watching very, very, very closely, and it's it would be in the interest of the United States to at least not have an adversarial relationship with that country.

[SPEAKER_00]: They are the largest reserve of natural resources in the world.

[SPEAKER_00]: And every time we do something like this, we push them closer to China, which has the largest manufacturing.

[SPEAKER_00]: economy in the world.

[SPEAKER_00]: And at a certain point, they are going to jointly eclips us.

[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, I would hope that we have good enough relations where we could trade with them and have some sort of, you know, calmer diplomatic type of exchanges as opposed to everything being about war and provocation.

[SPEAKER_00]: Personally, do I think the Patriots being manufactured in Ukraine is going to be a huge difference on the battlefield?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, you can only make somebody

[SPEAKER_00]: to build factories.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be years before there's actually any kind of benefit from this for the Ukrainians.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that we are giving the most corrupt country in Europe, that is Ukraine.

[SPEAKER_00]: On paper, look it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the major reason that they are not in NATO and we're not in NATO before the war with Russia broke out.

[SPEAKER_00]: No matter how much the EU and other NATO states tried to incorporate them in, they could not meet the baseline requirements, particularly on

[SPEAKER_00]: And within that corruption, running weapons is their big calling card.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, now would not be surprised if that technology, if it's still not outdated, doesn't get out there relatively quickly once you pass off them.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is just, this is non-sensical.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we are coming up on my favorite clip of the day where it appears that we are fighting World War 3 against some sort of anime nightmare.

[SPEAKER_04]: 100, I told the story yesterday, we had 111 missile shot by the Islamic Republic of Japan.

[SPEAKER_04]: They were shot at the echo of Gary.

[SPEAKER_00]: The Islamic Republic of Japan, that is the stuff of nightmares right there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that my grandfather, hearing that, who fought on Ewo Jima, is probably A, rolling in his grave, but also be uniquely terrified.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the combination of two major wars from the past 80 years.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's, if he can't get that right, what on earth is going on in that man's head?

[SPEAKER_00]: railing on the Islamic Republic of Iran, non-stop bombing them, calling them everything, but a son of God or children of God.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then he mixes up the Islamic Republic and Japan in the same sentence.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was the Abraham Lincoln Aircraft Carrier that got shot at, apparently.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't know, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chris, I got to say, like,

[SPEAKER_00]: There's been long been speculation about different presidents being on different kinds of cocktails when it comes to uppers, downers when they travel, and boy did they get them mixed wrong with this one.

[SPEAKER_03]: What's the religion in Japan?

[SPEAKER_02]: They're not even, I'm shit though.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, shit though, I'm gonna spit it out.

[SPEAKER_03]: Where did he come up with the lawmaker public Japan?

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm crying back here, Joe.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was laughing this morning, trying not to laugh hysterically to the point where I cried.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is the man in charge, ladies and gentlemen, he is in front of NATO right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: The alliance that he loves to say, he runs and sets the tone for.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is in front of the entire global community talking about a bunch of different wars and getting everything wrong while making

[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're non-sensical.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're not even linked in any kind of common theme.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it just like you said because he's just making stuff up as he goes.

[SPEAKER_02]: I missed the ice cream cones.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and ever that would say that, but, um, but wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, um,

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, Jen, I agree with that.

[SPEAKER_00]: We are in danger here.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's never been a stronger argument for the 20th of the amendment.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at least since Joe Biden, but at least Joe Biden wasn't running around the world, starting wars left and right.

[SPEAKER_00]: He had his and Ukraine didn't do as any favors, but hey, he kept us out of attacking Iran.

[SPEAKER_00]: He had that much, you know, brain power left.

[SPEAKER_00]: But okay, so there is one more, one more funny clip that illustrates, I wish we kind of would have started with this, but this is from, uh, before July 4th, when Trump was out there with the Rough Riders in, uh, the Dakotas, and this not only calls him to question his perilous mental state, loose mental state, but also probably redefines what

[SPEAKER_04]: Now as I see my two beautiful sunsitting there, I think I'm going to give one to myself one to them and we'll have a three-seven, okay?

[SPEAKER_04]: I'll pick out one of the two.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'll give them the congressional Medal of Honor for something.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll give them a six-seven, okay?

[SPEAKER_04]: For their genius and hunting, we'll have a three-seven, okay?

[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll get one for taking on Russia, Russia, Russia, or something, we'll have a three-seven, okay?

[SPEAKER_00]: music was a very nice touch Chris.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hope those rough writers were not road hard and put away wet because man that crosses a couple lines up there.

[SPEAKER_00]: But wow, like to be talking about three songs with

[SPEAKER_00]: with role players, I mean, well, I mean, ooh, I just crossed the line didn't I.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it serves if, yeah, these guys out there who were trying to reenact the rough writers, this is not something Ronald Reagan would do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just flat out there, I know their publicans love to try to Reagan out.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is, this is not something they would be, he would be doing, I don't even know if there is a present who would,

[SPEAKER_00]: go down that road quite like Trump did, it is a mind blowing, put it that way.

[SPEAKER_02]: And remember, right before the Refrigerator's comments, he had a conversation with Theodore Roosevelt.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, yeah, he did.

[SPEAKER_00]: He did.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to give him a pass on that, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: He was in front of a big AI thing, you know, talking to, thinking he was talking to Teddy.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can take a number of different ways, but with that, you know, three sums with three actors.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I hate to see what that guy

[SPEAKER_00]: you know, but um, but okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we are getting to the final part of the show today.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is what I do my solo is now.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the weekly wag of the finger and I am wagging a major finger at muffin the cat our family cat here in the web household.

[SPEAKER_00]: So last night,

[SPEAKER_00]: And I love this cat.

[SPEAKER_00]: The cat's awesome, but last night we get home from dinner as we do on Tuesdays.

[SPEAKER_00]: We take the kids' gymnastics, then we got a burger afterwards, it's the tradition.

[SPEAKER_00]: Get back and muffin decided to show her thanks to everybody here by bringing us a rat.

[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the rat was actually petrified uh... it was not dead do not worry no animals were harmed last night unfortunately i wish you would have killed this rat on the front end but uh... was not totally dead um... and once that door behind said rat was opened it uh... it ran for its life into my house uh... cat chased it and for the next hour muffin and i tried to corner the rat

[SPEAKER_00]: So, guys, we did corner the rat, but only because Muffin completely lost interest in the rat.

[SPEAKER_00]: She was bored that she hadn't killed it and couldn't catch it and was trying to escape the room and had to be motivated by yours truly, just kind of like air dropped her around until the rat freaked out, Muffin chased the rat a little bit and I was able to pick it up by the tail and throw it back outside.

[SPEAKER_00]: but no muffin like I appreciate I appreciate the uh the sentiment and honoring your household here but uh you get a big wagon of finger for bringing that rat in the house um and it terrify my little girls and my wife but everybody's fine nobody has the plague total win anyways that is the show today everybody so uh

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