True Crime Time For April 16, 2026 | Teacher Predator Caught, 13-Year-Old Shoots Father, Death Row Bride Story

In this episode of True Crime Time For, Woody and Cyndi Overton bring a mix of disturbing, emotional, and downright unbelievable cases — highlighting everything from abuse of trust to extreme acts of violence and bizarre human behavior.

The episode opens with a heartbreaking cold case — the disappearance and murder of Elizabeth Salgado, whose remains were found years later, but whose killer has never been brought to justice. It’s another reminder that some families are still waiting for answers.

From there, the episode dives into a shocking case out of Pennsylvania where a high school teacher is arrested after attempting to sexually assault a student inside his classroom. Thanks to the quick thinking of the student, who recorded the encounter, law enforcement had immediate evidence to act.

In California, a bizarre home invasion unfolds when a man claiming to be a fictional wizard attempts to break into a home, threatening the occupants and demanding access before being confronted and ultimately arrested.

The episode then turns deeply serious with a family violence case in Louisiana, where a 13-year-old boy shoots his father in a school car line before attempting to walk toward campus with the weapon. A school resource officer intervenes before the situation could escalate further.

Additional cases include:

• A heroic principal in Oklahoma who tackles an active shooter, taking a bullet while protecting students
• A daycare worker charged with breaking a toddler’s leg through excessive force
• A Tennessee man sentenced to 438 years in prison for prolonged child sexual abuse
• A Nebraska case involving a man murdered during a domestic dispute tied to a failing marriage
• A bizarre and controversial story of a British woman traveling to Texas to marry a death row inmate just days before his scheduled execution

Throughout the episode, Woody and Cyndi emphasize that evil comes in many forms — abuse, neglect, violence, and manipulation — and awareness and accountability are critical in preventing it.

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🎧 Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Cold Case: Elizabeth Salgado

03:30 F’ed Up Professional: Teacher Assault Case

10:00 Dum Dum in the Court: “Wizard” Home Invasion

17:00 Hero Story: Principal Stops School Shooter

23:30 Family Matters: 13-Year-Old Shoots Father

31:00 Daycare Worker Child Abuse Case

38:00 Tennessee Child Predator Sentencing

45:00 Nebraska Farm Murder and Domestic Violence

52:00 Death Row Marriage Story

01:02:00 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

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Investigative Producer: Leah Marie

[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, everybody.

[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to episode of True Crime Time for Thursday, April 16, 2025, 2026.

[SPEAKER_04]: Damn, back at time.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm Woody over to him.

[SPEAKER_08]: I'm Cindy over to him.

[SPEAKER_04]: And when this day, back in time in 2015, Elizabeth, Salgado, disappeared while leaving school in Provo, Utah, Salgado had only lived in Utah for one month after moving from Mexico to study at the Nomin Global Language Center, Salgado had graduated with an industrial engineering

[SPEAKER_04]: So I got his body, was discovered three years later, and they have 2018.

[SPEAKER_04]: Her remains were discovered by a man in Havocrete, Kenyan, and the murder remains unsolved.

[SPEAKER_04]: Despite her family pushing forward and long-forcement continuing to work at the

[SPEAKER_04]: So we want to give a shout-out to our patrons, it kind of begs, and all you lifeers we love, and appreciate each and every one of y'all.

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[SPEAKER_08]: And now the girls.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then that's Madison.

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[SPEAKER_04]: In Haley's case, I'm probably going to try to work that in on Saturday also the update on Haley.

[SPEAKER_04]: So let's get out of some true crime time for April 16.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: What's he got?

[SPEAKER_03]: It's time for after all professionals.

[SPEAKER_08]: I've got a Pittsburgh area high school teacher that was not a good professional.

[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_08]: He is from Fayette County.

[SPEAKER_08]: He worked at Laurel Highlands High School.

[SPEAKER_08]: His name is Martin Gattie.

[SPEAKER_08]: and he's facing multiple felony charges, including attempted instructional sexual assault.

[SPEAKER_08]: Nice.

[SPEAKER_08]: Unlawful contacts with minors and corruption of minors.

[SPEAKER_08]: So, state police say this case centers around misconduct between Gattie and a female student inside his classrooms at Laurel Highland High School.

[SPEAKER_08]: So what the criminal complaint says is that Mr. Gadi asked this young girl to go to his classroom and she thought it was odd, but she went because he was a teacher, but in modern day of technology, she was very smart and she recorded the incident so that obviously gave the police all the evidence that they needed.

[SPEAKER_08]: So, once inside the classroom, the teacher tried to kiss her and told her to shut the door.

[SPEAKER_08]: The district says as soon as the report was made, it placed Gaddy on administrative lead.

[SPEAKER_08]: So, she got the auto-recording called the cops, made the report, and he was put on leave.

[SPEAKER_08]: And now the district has and will apply any and all necessary protocols available to ensure the safety and welfare of our students, according to the district, and we continue to cooperate fully with the investigators, but I have a audio recording of what happened when this man goes out and I never ever ever do this, but this went viral and what needs to go viral if it didn't.

[SPEAKER_08]: So let me go play that.

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[SPEAKER_08]: So he was sitting at a bar belly of drinking after in the bar owner recognized him and that's what she did.

[SPEAKER_04]: Good for her.

[SPEAKER_08]: And then it went.

[SPEAKER_04]: good for her.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now I have a dumb dumb in the court.

[SPEAKER_04]: So going off California and I can pretty much assure you that don't say it in here, but I can assure you these people that own this home did not have a firearm and you'll understand why in a minute a man of California was called on a rain camera trying to break into someone's home and demanding to know where their

[SPEAKER_04]: All right, but the homeowner was there and confronted him.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is according to the police.

[SPEAKER_04]: Jason Nichols, who started his old faces charges of bargory, bandolism, and making criminal threats.

[SPEAKER_04]: After police said, he tried to break into the fairfield residence and identified himself as a fictional wizard, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: So he appeared in court on Monday,

[SPEAKER_04]: But and then he didn't like being there when he appeared to take issue with some of the charges shaking his head as the judge's read the complaint

[SPEAKER_04]: and he did not enter a plea.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Love, I guess.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm actually going to go away and say judge will enter that for you.

[SPEAKER_04]: So on the camera, I might try to play the audio from him, but they said nickels appeared calm when he approached the home.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then sugar turned to shit.

[SPEAKER_04]: when he refused to leave.

[SPEAKER_04]: At the time, the homeowner's pregnant wife and their five-year-old child hid in the garage and said, I just want to make sure everything is okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Or seems to be something going on.

[SPEAKER_04]: Nichols said to the homeowner, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean?

[SPEAKER_04]: The homeowner's found it,

[SPEAKER_04]: Nichols, seemingly appeared to become agitated after talked with a homeowner on the rink camera and shouting, where's your daughter?

[SPEAKER_04]: Who's in there with you?

[SPEAKER_04]: Open this fucking door, I'm breaking it down.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that would've been by the time I started squeezing a trigger, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm giving you a chance, get the fuck out of my house, the homeowner said,

[SPEAKER_04]: My name is Harry Dresden, mother fucker, Nicola said, this is my neighborhood.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dresden is a fictional wizard from a TV series.

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I was like, okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: So the cops showed up, they cuffed him and stuffed him.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then they said, another witness came forward and told about a separate incident, which had Nicola's involved Nicola's in her child, but they didn't provide more details.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Nichols was the rest of a special laboratory, panolism, and they can criminal threats.

[SPEAKER_04]: And in this little charge of annoying or molesting a child, was added Monday.

[SPEAKER_04]: You just scored a fairfield police department.

[SPEAKER_04]: At one point, Nichols removed a hanging decoration from the answer way, which we would have gained any time that year had that.

[SPEAKER_04]: And continued shouting, threatened, he's starting to fucking kill the homeowner

[SPEAKER_04]: Nick was guided in a house anyway by breaking the gate and entering through a sliding glass door, scored the place again, he had a shot.

[SPEAKER_04]: The homeowner returned as Nickles gained entry into the house and confronted Nickles with a shovel again, proved my point they didn't have a firearm.

[SPEAKER_04]: If you don't feel pleased, say the homeowner in Nichols both sustained head injuries.

[SPEAKER_08]: Goodness.

[SPEAKER_04]: So they went this to Cups, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: So one amount of shovel.

[SPEAKER_04]: Please rest.

[SPEAKER_04]: Nichols took it to a local hospital for treatment.

[SPEAKER_04]: Good for the homeowner for giving us some licks.

[SPEAKER_04]: And he was booked into Sloan County, jail.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the cops said the Nichols was behind the family's home, but they'd say if he was touring the in-child, relates to the family.

[SPEAKER_04]: According to the local KTV, his bond said it $250,000.

[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Strange.

[SPEAKER_08]: Who was that fictional?

[SPEAKER_08]: Do you know who that wizard is?

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know anything about it.

[SPEAKER_04]: That seems like I might have heard about it, but I don't really watch a lot of wizard shows.

[SPEAKER_08]: Neither.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, but the, he got his head smashed in with his fellow.

[SPEAKER_04]: But,

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, at least they fought with what they could fight with.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if I want to go on to you, you need one.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So you don't know where you got a shovel from, but I guess for his wife and kid were hiding in the garage.

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, for every bad professional, there's a good professional.

[SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[SPEAKER_08]: You always say there's

[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to Paul's Valley, Oklahoma, where there's a principle that is a hero.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_08]: So, so all of this was called on camera and I know Leo Marie will post the video on Facebook.

[SPEAKER_08]: She's so in the app, she's very good about doing that.

[SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[SPEAKER_08]: But there's newly released footage that shows the moment a gunman fired shots inside Paul's Valley High School before being stopped by the school's principal.

[SPEAKER_08]: The footage from April 7th of 2026 shows the suspect who's Victor Hawkins walking into the school and pointing his gun at two students.

[SPEAKER_08]: And then the affidavit outlines that Hawkins walked right into the school, like I just said, pointed the gun and yelled at everyone to get on the ground, and two students are seen in the footage running away from Hawkins as he enters the school lobby.

[SPEAKER_08]: But principal Kirk Moore is seen rushing towards the gunman and tackling him.

[SPEAKER_08]: While stopping the gunman, Moore was shot in the leg.

[SPEAKER_08]: but the footage then shows another staff member removing the gun from Hawkins' hand.

[SPEAKER_08]: Investigators said that Hawkins told them that at 2 p.m. on the day of the shooting, he decided to go to Paul's Valley High School with the intent of killing students, faculty, and himself.

[SPEAKER_08]: Hawkins told investigators he wanted to conduct his own school shooting like the Columbine shooters and he also wanted to kill the principal the one that stopped him.

[SPEAKER_08]: So the Paul's Valley community said, if it obviously, if it weren't for more, the situation could have been much worse.

[SPEAKER_08]: But interesting enough, Jocelyn Rushing works with more at the high school as a administrative assistant, and she happens to be the mayor of Paul's Valley.

[SPEAKER_08]: And she says, he's a fine man who loves the students and is willing obviously to go out of his way to ensure their safety.

[SPEAKER_08]: And that was proven today by the steps that he took and more has been released from the hospital.

[SPEAKER_08]: Hawkins was arrested on the scene and was taken to Gavin County, Joe on two counts of pointing a firearm, one count of shooting with intent to kill and two counts of unlawful carry, and he has a $1 million bill set, and he's not allowed to initiate contact with more, and he goes back to court and may.

[SPEAKER_04]: But, guys, get for the true hero, I just do the excess,

[SPEAKER_08]: and the person that arrived and got the gun away was actually the school resource officer.

[SPEAKER_04]: And for them to hear us that, unlike that guy down in Texas at Ryan and Heid, when the shots fire it out, it's time for family matters.

[SPEAKER_04]: This absolutely disturbing.

[SPEAKER_04]: bring it back to him in the Louisiana, and the chief is actually friend of mine.

[SPEAKER_04]: We've been a lot of crews together and everything else, and this is a tragic story.

[SPEAKER_01]: and police say a 13-year-old boy shot his father just outside his school campus and then started walking toward the school before an officer took his gun and arrested him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Good evening, I'm Katie Moore.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Cherie Skipsson, Rachel Hamley walks us through those very chaotic few moments that left a father in critical condition and is young son in jail.

[SPEAKER_07]: Tuesday morning, Charles Walker heard a single gunshot.

[SPEAKER_02]: I see a way of maybe somebody's doing this around the shoot.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't hear the other of the sirens.

[SPEAKER_07]: Neighbors came outside and saw police ahead surrounded Tantrapoho alternative programs.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's a school in Hammond focused on behavioral rehabilitation for kids.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that was flooded with fully solid over the campus.

[SPEAKER_07]: Police chief Edwin Berger on says around 730, a school resource officer was called to the school's car line.

[SPEAKER_07]: A 13-year-old boy was refusing to get out of the car.

[SPEAKER_07]: His father was driving and another boy, about five or six years old, was in the back seat.

[SPEAKER_07]: After talking with the officer, the boy's father said he'd take the 13-year-old home.

[SPEAKER_07]: He pulled the car out of the line, then the 13-year-old shot his father inside the car.

[SPEAKER_07]: Purser on says at this point, no one knows why he did it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to continue to do the investigation, our detectives are doing the interview and talking to other people to see if there would be some other issues that may have triggered this type of reaction.

[SPEAKER_07]: Purser on says the boy, then, God out of the car, got in hand and started walking toward the school.

[SPEAKER_07]: The school resource officer disarmed and arrested him.

[SPEAKER_00]: Our officer saw what was going on.

[SPEAKER_07]: Meanwhile, the man who had just been shot was still behind the wheel.

[SPEAKER_07]: He crashed into this home across the street from the school.

[SPEAKER_07]: This woman who asked only to be identified as Anita was asleep when the car came through her bedroom wall.

[SPEAKER_06]: I woke up and a little boy in the car was screaming, I was screaming.

[SPEAKER_06]: My jumped on the hood to get out of my room because the car was so far in my room.

[SPEAKER_06]: She says she saw the bullet hole in the window and immediately got the little boy out of the car.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's like my uncle shot my dad and he just kept saying that over and over and over.

[SPEAKER_07]: Police departments that don't typically identify suspects when they're under 18.

[SPEAKER_07]: And in this case, they say they're also not going to identify the victim.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's because they're related and they're worried that the victim's name could give away the suspect's identity.

[SPEAKER_07]: Bergeron says they're trying to figure out how he got a hold of a gun to begin with.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a shame that number one, we have kids at this age that have firearms, it's a bigger shame that kids feel like the way that they need to resolve issues is through violence.

[SPEAKER_07]: He says the boy will be taken to the Florida Parishes Juvenile Detention Center.

[SPEAKER_07]: As of Tuesday, his father was still in the hospital in critical condition.

[SPEAKER_07]: Rachel Handley, WWL Louisiana.

[SPEAKER_04]: Lord of Paris, juvenile sense centers, where I used to be a supervisor, you always hear me say it's not a hug of a program, it's where juveniles get a veteran serious shit in the school they're at.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, if you get out kicked out at any school and tangible pairs for fighting or drugs, whatever, not a responsible offense is usually or you can get sentenced there by the juvenile judge.

[SPEAKER_04]: So they send them there just so they can play the school and, but it's a whole bunch of, it's all kids that've been in trouble.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then this kid shoots his dad and then was head towards the core.

[SPEAKER_04]: He had it towards the school with the gun.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know who the Hammond officer was that had enough restraint not to shoot him.

[SPEAKER_04]: But thankfully they didn't, uh, but he's locked up in the halls.

[SPEAKER_04]: I used to walk in there and there you have it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, we were always leary it's so hard because some of when I taught some of our students obviously would have to go to the Livingston version of that school and when they would complete their time at that school and be able to potentially come back we were always so scared because I mean that's like learning ground for other bad behaviors too.

[SPEAKER_04]: sure it is, but also there's a lot of them that go there and get straight.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure if they had had one of those when I was coming up on Mayus, but they got sent there.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I would have got straight.

[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, unfortunately, a lot of them are going to grow up to be of making a fine trusty somewhere one day in the prison, but let's pray that they don't, let's

[SPEAKER_04]: grow out of the life of criminal activity.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: All right.

[SPEAKER_08]: Get the help they need.

[SPEAKER_08]: Support to make good decisions.

[SPEAKER_04]: Shout out to Eddie Barzeron and HPD.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's time for after up professionals.

[SPEAKER_08]: My next story in my lineup was about Santa, but I decided after hearing what you just said that going back to a silly story wouldn't really be appropriate.

[SPEAKER_08]: So I'm just going to go to the next story, which is a daycare worker that is charged with breaking one of her child, the students.

[SPEAKER_08]: legs while he was sitting in what they now call crisscross applesauce.

[SPEAKER_08]: So a daycare worker has been charged with breaking little boys yet, leg by yanking him as he was sitting in crisscross applesauce.

[SPEAKER_08]: Ashley Nicole Terrace who's 24 years old fractured the toddler's

[SPEAKER_08]: After she aggressively pulled the four-year-old boy by the leg at Kindercare Daycare Center and Raleigh, North Carolina, this was back in August.

[SPEAKER_08]: The young boy told police that during class, mysterious his teacher calls an injury to his leg while placing him in the Chris Cross Apple sauce position.

[SPEAKER_08]: Broke is fucking way.

[SPEAKER_08]: Broke is Tibia, which is your shin bone, like there's a fibia and the Tibia down there.

[SPEAKER_08]: A lot of people might not know.

[SPEAKER_08]: That's the biggest bone in the bottom part of your leg to break it.

[SPEAKER_08]: So,

[SPEAKER_08]: Prosecutor said that at Terrace's court appearance last week, the teacher's the aggressively moved the boy, even though he was sitting where he was supposed to be sitting.

[SPEAKER_08]: And the boy said he immediately felt a burn and couldn't walk.

[SPEAKER_08]: And when interviewed by police, Terus claims she was just doing fun, donkey kicks when she fell on his leg, but investigators determined that the boy's injuries were not consistent with what she said happened.

[SPEAKER_08]: she was initially issued a citation for misdemeanor child abuse after the August 22 incident and then she was arrested on April 7th and the charges were upgraded to felony child abuse.

[SPEAKER_08]: But she's been fired from kindergarten since October, but for some time they kept her working

[SPEAKER_04]: like, well, you know, my closet.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they've access to kids.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's pretty safe.

[SPEAKER_04]: Deploying does.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, honestly, you got to get fair shake.

[SPEAKER_04]: She couldn't actually fall on a kid.

[SPEAKER_04]: But obviously, she did and fuck her.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: The state licensing officials had to remove her from the classroom.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Pretty sure an insurance wouldn't allow her to stay.

[SPEAKER_04]: The great state of Tennessee has handed out a record, a record, and it deserves Tennessee's has a death penalty, but some more touring hideous, but I am going to tell you about a story that reminds me of Double Clutch.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's sentenced to more than 400 years in prison for raping and molesting multiple children.

[SPEAKER_05]: According to the Sunday County Assistant DA, a jury found Matthew Cody Ball guilty on multiple charges of child sexual abuse, rape and battery.

[SPEAKER_05]: Ball is arrested by Hendersonville Police in 2024 after a girl reported him.

[SPEAKER_05]: investigators say other children came forward to report similar abuse over 13 years.

[SPEAKER_05]: In summer, Davidson and Dixon counties and in Texas, ball was sentenced to 438 years in prison.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, give me a little more detail on it.

[SPEAKER_04]: The, some accountants can see that 438 years of prison.

[SPEAKER_04]: He had a wave of rape and kids from more than 10 years in Tennessee and Texas now.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you, it's hard to catch a smart criminal.

[SPEAKER_04]: But in March, the jury found 36-year-old Matthew Cody Ball, guilty of continuous sexual abuse of a child, nine counts of rape of a child, aggravated sexual battery, rape, and statutory rape by an authority figure.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Hendersfield Police Detective Jim Bachman, arrested ball in 2024, after a 10-year-old playing the ball was touching her inappropriately.

[SPEAKER_04]: after an interview at Ashley's place, which is y'all a slight cause for us child advocacy center of ease, a some account of resource for survivors of child sexual abuse.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's what Ashley's place is.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dean said the child gave a graphic disclosure of rape and sex from a

[SPEAKER_04]: went on for more than six years to choose ten.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now that according to the sum of the county DA, other victims came forward and followed in ball swing 24 arrests and told same shit and he did it to them.

[SPEAKER_04]: These crimes will commit it over 13 years and Sumner.

[SPEAKER_04]: Davis and Dickson counties in Texas, so he's sticking in moving, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: So during that here on Tuesday, some of the county assisted district attorney Nathan Nichols in Parker Sue presented evidence of two more victims.

[SPEAKER_04]: who are unable to participate in the original trial to put the total number of known victims at six and it's going to be a lot more than the more we do going double clutch and Christina.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, should we have like 48, I don't know, I think like 20 different victims over 40 years.

[SPEAKER_04]: But in some of the county's circuit judge, Jennifer Nichols gave that 438-year sentence inside it ball as extensive criminal record.

[SPEAKER_04]: She also discussed the nature and scope of the acts of sexual abuse, never.

[SPEAKER_04]: He did to the victims.

[SPEAKER_04]: The last and damaged his conduct calls to the victims.

[SPEAKER_04]: In the position of trust, he occupied in their lives.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's got a service sentence without the possibility of parole or early release under Tennessee Law.

[SPEAKER_04]: And this, I'm pretty sure he'll never have to do this, but by law, he will also have to register as they bond, sex, fender, and be under community supervision for life.

[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, the division of anti-hyperism, he's a dad, president of death sentence.

[SPEAKER_04]: say according to the son of the county VA, Bell census the longest short of life without parole imposed in a child sexual abuse case in the history of son of the county.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's not even eligible for life without parole or death penalty due to the win the fences were committed.

[SPEAKER_04]: So there you go, y'all.

[SPEAKER_04]: I approached how abuse prevents in month and like I said, we have to have that fucking month.

[SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So anyway, there you have it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Goodness.

[SPEAKER_08]: That's for children.

[SPEAKER_08]: and their families.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I'm going to take us to Nebraska.

[SPEAKER_08]: A man was murdered by an attacker while searching for his estranged wife and his family on his family, Hulk form.

[SPEAKER_08]: Brian Gable's 44 was shot and killed at his Hulk form, which is Happy Hulk's LLC,

[SPEAKER_08]: this is according to Nebraska State Patrol.

[SPEAKER_08]: Investigators believe the gunman identified as Wesley Abshire, who's 40 years old, drove to Gabel's farm because his wife was at the business.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's unclear why Abshire's unidentified wife was at the hog farm at the time.

[SPEAKER_08]: After Absor's shot and killed Gabel, he kidnapped his wife and drove her to another location on the farm where he assaulted her.

[SPEAKER_08]: At that second location, investigators believe Absor shot himself and the woman was able to drive herself to a police station.

[SPEAKER_08]: Gabel was then pronounced dead at the scene, an app sure was taken to a nearby hospital with life-threatening injuries, and he died there the next day.

[SPEAKER_08]: but investigators have since learned that Appshire and his wife were going through a divorce.

[SPEAKER_08]: And court records revealed that Appshire had previously been found guilty of second-degree assault and terroristic threats in a separate case that involved his wife.

[SPEAKER_08]: He was accused of threatening his wife and assaulting her with a weapon on February 8.

[SPEAKER_08]: she told police that Absure had threatened to kill himself, but she was able to take his gun away.

[SPEAKER_08]: They went to the hospital where she received treatment for a head injury and Absure was arrested.

[SPEAKER_08]: And then on April 1st, Absure took a plea deal and agreed to plead no contest to the charges in exchange for prosecutors dropping two counts of use of a firearm to commit a felony.

[SPEAKER_08]: and he was released from jail on April 3rd.

[SPEAKER_08]: In a sentencing for that was set for June the 10th.

[SPEAKER_08]: But just three days later, is when he killed Gable and attacked his wife.

[SPEAKER_08]: So the investigation is ongoing, and a funeral was held for Gable on Friday, and he had three kids with his former wife, and he was just remembered by his loved ones as being a very donating father and passionate farmer, and people loved his happy hogs, business.

[SPEAKER_08]: That man had it on his mind to do what he wanted to do.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was definitely going to do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And unfortunately, he's successful, right?

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm going to step outside the box on this next one.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a crime, but it balls a person.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's on death, right?

[SPEAKER_08]: OK.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, what do you think?

[SPEAKER_04]: How fucking lonely do you have to be to hook up with a death row and make?

[SPEAKER_08]: I don't even know if that's loneliness.

[SPEAKER_04]: You have to be asked up yourself.

[SPEAKER_04]: Is it a matter of like, you know what?

[SPEAKER_04]: I listen, I know this motherfucker can't cheat on me.

[SPEAKER_04]: But he can't candy death rate you're in a single cell by yourself.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure they could fucking shower or something.

[SPEAKER_04]: But the cheat on me with another female, I mean thought you could fly to the moon if you had a rocket ship, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to Texas, we're just dudes on death row, but this lady, he always have to put this under.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's time for worldwide crime, worldwide crime of pointlessness.

[SPEAKER_04]: They got a lady from a British woman who is currently preparing to marry a man on death row in Texas.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right, and the president of the day allow them to happen.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they said, it's a 20-minute ceremony.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's brave and strictly controlled and conducted entirely through a glass screen.

[SPEAKER_04]: And there's no physical contact at any point.

[SPEAKER_04]: Another, not stunning.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a conjugal visit.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not talking about death right.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're never going to get to touch him.

[SPEAKER_08]: But I have a,

[SPEAKER_08]: I'll say it at the end.

[SPEAKER_04]: Say I got a lot more to go say it.

[SPEAKER_08]: I'm just thinking one, how is the man on death row able to communicate so much that he can actually propose to a woman.

[SPEAKER_08]: I just don't understand how they get the eye pad.

[SPEAKER_08]: I know.

[SPEAKER_04]: We have dollar routine in space and it could have been not just about our case, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: She might want to hook up with you.

[SPEAKER_08]: She might.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So Tiana Kronisky, who started wanting from London,

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she's in Texas right now, and right before her nocturals, right, to James, Rod next, 37.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's been on defrosus, 2008, after being convicted of killing two men in his execution scheduled for April 30th.

[SPEAKER_08]: Does she get US citizenship just by marrying him?

[SPEAKER_04]: understandably that date hangs over everything that the pair have got planned.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's just two very short weeks after the pair are due to Mary.

[SPEAKER_04]: So you got 14 days, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: It's not exactly the romantic image that most folks have in mind when they conjure up images of weddings, and Tiana knows that.

[SPEAKER_04]: She also knows that she's going into it alone and doing something that few other people can fully understand or appreciate.

[SPEAKER_04]: But you got to hit that nail in here because I don't fucking get it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they said, nobody is happy.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's not your typical conventional relationship.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's not been any support.

[SPEAKER_04]: Despite that, she insists that she understands the reaction and that she isn't holding any grudges against anyone.

[SPEAKER_04]: And look, I'm not holding any grudges against her.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just like you're stupid.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I know you hate that word, but I think she's stupid.

[SPEAKER_04]: The relationship didn't start in a conventional way.

[SPEAKER_04]: Diana's first contact Rodinix in 2024 while researching racial disparities in the U.S. just system.

[SPEAKER_04]: She said it wasn't meant to become personal.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't know if I could even eat that 24 hours a day, how to make it personal.

[SPEAKER_04]: She said I contacted him.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was looking at cases that fell within that category, within the trial court, and James was the person I picked after my research.

[SPEAKER_04]: At first it was just conversation.

[SPEAKER_04]: Then their emails turned to long daily calls.

[SPEAKER_04]: Guess what missed him?

[SPEAKER_04]: He got shit else to do, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Past the time, maybe why she said continues.

[SPEAKER_04]: She says,

[SPEAKER_04]: About two or three months later, we kind of realized that it was more than a study.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was never intentional.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, those calls soon became a routine.

[SPEAKER_04]: Not quick check-ins, but hours at a time.

[SPEAKER_04]: And again, this is just loving that shit, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure she put some money on those books for diseases and things.

[SPEAKER_04]: Since soon, there was an emotional attachment on both sides.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I know a lot of people would say, you haven't spent the day or night with him, but if you speak to somebody every day for six or seven hours a day, you go through the same ups and downs.

[SPEAKER_04]: If you have a motherfucker, you might be having a problem on your job on the street, he's doing the same shit he's been doing since 2008.

[SPEAKER_04]: But eventually, she traveled to Houston to meet him in person, and even then, it was only through the glass, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's no difference in a fucking FaceTime.

[SPEAKER_04]: Really much to that remain the case throughout a 90-day state.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, what kind of job you got in Britain, where you can fly and land in where you can fly, and stay in Texas for 90, fucking days,

[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_08]: And how can someone on death row get seen every day and be spend hours hours on the phone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's say by the end of that period, she decided to marry him.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the proposal itself wasn't exactly a grand gesture.

[SPEAKER_04]: She said, it was a visitation, and I guess it's not the most romantic.

[SPEAKER_04]: He spoke to me about it, and he confessed everything you felt in the NAS.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well,

[SPEAKER_04]: Rodnex had already told her, his appeal to the Supreme Court had been denied.

[SPEAKER_04]: He wasn't expecting anything more from life at that point.

[SPEAKER_04]: He pretty much said to me, that his peel got the knife and his print core.

[SPEAKER_04]: So he wasn't looking for anything.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I'm not either because it's not realistic.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it was just purely, I mean, let's just be friends.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that didn't last long.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it's clear from how Tiana speaks to James that she has a deep affection for him.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's very intelligent, very well spoken, very respectful, he is a normal person, just the fact that he's on death road makes a difference, but just the way he is as a person.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, go back to 2008 and ask the victims about that.

[SPEAKER_04]: But in the case itself, it's both complex and controversial.

[SPEAKER_04]: Rodnex was convicted of ambushing and killing Steven Swan, who was 26.

[SPEAKER_04]: The Matthew Butler, who was 28, as they left the music studio, we back in 2008.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, questions have been raised about the trial as they always are.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's fucking been appealing it since 2008.

[SPEAKER_04]: Teyana points to claims a racial bias in the jury's selection.

[SPEAKER_04]: seven blight jurors were excluded.

[SPEAKER_04]: The final jury included 11 white jurors and one blight juror.

[SPEAKER_04]: She also just speaks the strength of evidence in the particular.

[SPEAKER_04]: She highlights the lack of DNA.

[SPEAKER_04]: We can broaden this to the weapons.

[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it's called you wipe them down.

[SPEAKER_04]: Tiana told this morning, I guess this is a new source.

[SPEAKER_04]: The new appeal is that the codependent has cousin had come out and signed a business to say that he had done it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And it also lasted DNA.

[SPEAKER_04]: Did DNA exclude a change from both the weapon and the victim's clothing?

[SPEAKER_04]: It's always matched to the mayor's Cummings.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that cousin to Mary's Cummins is already serving life without parole.

[SPEAKER_04]: So what's it for him to say, oh, yeah, let's try to get him off.

[SPEAKER_04]: I did it.

[SPEAKER_04]: He has recently claimed he acted alone.

[SPEAKER_04]: However, there are yet even more complications.

[SPEAKER_04]: When first interview by police, Rodnex reportedly showed no remorse.

[SPEAKER_04]: He said he would laugh in the face of one of the victim's widows.

[SPEAKER_04]: That detail still sits in the background of the case.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Teyana Challenge is Rodnex's original confession.

[SPEAKER_04]: She says it came under questionable circumstances.

[SPEAKER_04]: With his confession, I have to clear up.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was under the influence of PCP.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[SPEAKER_04]: when he was interviewed.

[SPEAKER_04]: He had only been interviewed four hours after the rest and he made clear to the police and he was high, okay?

[SPEAKER_04]: You could get high, you could best still on you.

[SPEAKER_04]: But she argues that interview conditions were also unnecessarily intense, saying multiple officers were present during the question and the pressure was dialed up, that is called

[SPEAKER_04]: They did put five interviews in front of him and he took the blame for something that he didn't do.

[SPEAKER_04]: And he acted in a way that he showed he was under the influence.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the prosecution also used some of his scribbled down rap lyrics to the trial.

[SPEAKER_04]: Tiana said he also had about 40 pages of rap lyrics and when it came to the guilty verdict, the jurors had asked to see the rap lyrics twice before they made a decision to see if he was a future dangerousness.

[SPEAKER_04]: And she believes that shaped outcome, and in her view, it painted a misleading picture.

[SPEAKER_04]: They tried to make him out as a psychopath, but nobody ever valued him directly.

[SPEAKER_04]: But despite everything, Tiana's sister, she isn't going into this naively.

[SPEAKER_04]: She says that she fully understands the risk in the scrutiny.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the scrutiny is we're talking about it on true crime time for and the risk is.

[SPEAKER_04]: always appeals within the night and they're about to fry as I ask or shoot them up, whatever.

[SPEAKER_04]: She said, I'm very realistic and I understand people always judge, however, I also understand the case very well and this is not the UK.

[SPEAKER_04]: You do not get wrongfully convicted in the U.S., you do get wrongfully convicted in the U.S., and I'm not going into this blindly.

[SPEAKER_04]: For now, the focus is on the appeal.

[SPEAKER_04]: Understandably, Tiana's act is really fighting to delay or prevent the execution.

[SPEAKER_04]: She knows the reality might not change, and that's all just part of the way the decision she's made.

[SPEAKER_04]: And she ends up with this.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a process, it's been a lot of conversations, and a lot of prayer.

[SPEAKER_04]: You still have hope because the evidence is so overwhelming that he didn't commit the crime.

[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody's going to understand, but it's okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Miss Tiana, you're right.

[SPEAKER_04]: The general public doesn't understand.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean,

[SPEAKER_04]: home boy when he's already doing life without it's never getting out in Texas life what else it's just like Louisiana never getting out now you because he did confess it and set out a laugh in the widow's face and wrote down about how he did it in the rap lyrics on that and there's I mean it's 2008 that's

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, all that to 18, 22, 28 years, this day's been having the pills in the United States Supreme Court denied it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And there's a reason for that.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that you could do a whole book on the story of wise on death right.

[SPEAKER_04]: But you know, man, good for you, then you get to be a

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, I'm not gonna be enough.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right, that's it for me.

[SPEAKER_04]: You got anything else?

[SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, what do you ever tell me?

[SPEAKER_08]: I'm Cindy Overtime.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a true crantime for Thursday, April 16th, 2026.

[SPEAKER_04]: Alex Lair, peace.