True Crime Time for August 18, 2026 | Fake DEA Agent, Prison Failures & A Family Murder Linked to ChatGPT
On today’s episode of True Crime Time, Woody opens with updates on What Happened to Madison and Justice for Hailey, asking listeners to continue submitting tips, making calls, and contacting the people who have the power to move these cases forward. Woody says he believes a turn in the Madison case may be coming sooner rather than later and hints that several major cases and breakthroughs are developing behind the scenes.
Woody also talks about another side of his work that listeners may not hear about as often: helping investigate potential wrongful convictions. He shares the story of being asked to assist an Innocence Project with the case of an Angola inmate serving life, only to have his request to enter the prison denied because officials said they could not guarantee his safety. That leads to a candid discussion about life inside maximum-security prisons and the importance of fighting just as hard for an innocent person as he does to put a guilty person behind bars.
Today’s cases include the conviction of serial rapist and murderer Horace Van Vaultz Jr., whose decades-old California murders were finally solved through DNA and genetic genealogy; a double murderer in a maximum-security British prison accused of stabbing a correctional officer in the neck and attempting to strangle him; and the justice-system failures that allegedly allowed that same offender to remain free before committing additional murders.
In F’d Up Professionals, Woody covers a lawsuit stemming from a deadly Florida Walmart shooting. According to the allegations, an employee believed shoppers were threatening him but, instead of notifying management as required, called armed friends to the store. A confrontation followed and 23-year-old Nathaniel Baez was killed while an elderly bystander was also shot.
The episode then turns to a disturbing Massachusetts case involving a 17-year-old accused of killing his mother and 14-year-old brother. Prosecutors say the teenager had demonstrated concerning behavior before the killings, including internet and ChatGPT activity involving hypothetical or fantasy scenarios about killing his family. His father had reportedly become concerned enough about his behavior to begin hiding knives in the home.
Woody also revisits the nearly two-decade-old mystery surrounding Joey Lynn Offutt, whose infant son was found dead in a bathtub after their Pennsylvania home was deliberately set on fire. Joey disappeared, her vehicle was later discovered miles away, and her family continues searching for answers about what happened to her and her baby.
Finally, Woody covers an Arizona couple accused of child abuse after authorities say they were intoxicated while walking for approximately three hours in 108-degree heat with their two- and four-year-old children after leaving an NFL practice. Thankfully, the children survived.
Woody closes with an update on Stephanie Belgaard’s upcoming book about Courtney Coco, which Cyndi has been helping her publish, and once again asks the Lifers to keep pushing for answers in the Madison, Stephanie Hebert, Hailey Johnson, and other unresolved cases.
Apple Podcasts Summary
Woody discusses his work investigating wrongful convictions before covering a maximum-security prison attack, a deadly Walmart shooting, a Massachusetts family murder case involving disturbing ChatGPT activity, the mysterious disappearance of Joey Lynn Offutt, and two parents accused of walking their toddlers through 108-degree Arizona heat while intoxicated. Plus, updates on What Happened to Madison, Justice for Hailey, and Stephanie Belgard’s upcoming Courtney Coco book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello everybody, we're going to set a true crime time for Tuesday, August 8, 2026, and I'm Woody over 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the college students at LSU and the local universities going back to school today, regular kids, most of them started yesterday and so I hope you all have a great time and all you empty nesters now where your kids go and you're
[SPEAKER_01]: whether in the storm of being alone, right, like that's punishment.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, anyway, hashtag what happened to Madison, y'all keep it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, keep calling you tips 313RLRC tip.
[SPEAKER_01]: I truly believe we're going to have a turn in the case.
[SPEAKER_01]: much sooner than later.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll leave it at that in hashtag justice for Haley y'all continue please if you haven't already call in those numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's push this Haley's case home right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Make those people do their jobs and now y'all get tired of hearing me talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: Just as an important one, it really, really is, and just I can't imagine what these families live with, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, on this day, August 18th in 2022, Horace Van Bals Jr. was convicted of two murders in 1981 and 1986.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vaults Jr. raped and strangled 22-year-old Mary Dugan in 20-year-old Selena Kiyo in the California.
[SPEAKER_01]: The best skaters were able to solve the co-cases using genetic genealogy, which is our new best friend, and DNA evidence from the murders.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vaults Jr. was sentenced to two consecutive licenses for the murderers.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know it as well as I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did one in 1981, another rape and murder in 1986.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't just stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only problem is, has so long ago that a lot of departments won't have any evidence left over from
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure this guy started out raping and then advanced rape murder and what have you But thankfully, he's as old as he is by now, but that thankfully he just walked up and he can't get anyone else, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Putting people behind bars
[SPEAKER_01]: And while if you're the one that finished against, it's important that if you have them correct, if you do it, the right way, so that all of you on cops out there, if you don't have them right, let them go, you get them another day.
[SPEAKER_01]: don't mean that means stop watching for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you got to, you got to pursue them.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get more into that later on.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a lot of stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: This, you know, big cases and big bright furies are happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: you'll know it as soon as I can tell you.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so recently, I don't know if I told you all this or not, I do do a lot of innocence work.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as hard as I am on the deaf building, I'm also equally as hard when getting people off that are innocent and I've been doing it since.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was actually going to before them, but this went off to say place in 2013.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing it since then.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll all over the country and helping people, helping people who are wrong with their keys and, and
[SPEAKER_01]: Recently, I have one of our dear lifers who I love so much and she nice, who she is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she wrote me about the sky and go, who's down for him, you know, the worst horror
[SPEAKER_01]: an innocence project and there's so many of them and they'll almost want in every state seems but innocence is probably just going to take up the scarce cases, it's a convex case.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing life and they want to meet a common board for it and I said I will I will go
[SPEAKER_01]: interview him without any lawyer's present, and when I get done interview him, if I believe he's innocent, then yeah, we'll fight for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not then no harm, no foul.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm flaking my head, that just means he's getting everyone y'all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so I had to fill out the form or send you fill it out for me and send it in, and they came back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is a place that I started my long forced career technically in like 1990.
[SPEAKER_01]: I lived on Angola, went to the academy there, and everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, I've put a lot of people in Angola that are going to die there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I doubt about that a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's in the letter to the security approval form and they deny me because they say they cannot guarantee my safety.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you think about it, you're going to work in the field at Angola on the farm like they call it for the first 10 years of your sentence before your eligible to be become a trusty, somewhere else and work and a kitchen or wherever they were doing whatever they do, working with cows, whatever the
[SPEAKER_01]: but they said they could not guarantee my security.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now if you're inside the prison and you can't guarantee security then from a security standpoint, I get it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, hmm, we'll take a chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: these guys are doing life plus the that woody put up here and if they see him what's to stop them from attacking him, stabbing him, jumping on him, whatever the he's trying to beat his ass because what are they going to get?
[SPEAKER_01]: they're going to get sent to the whole, maybe they're going to catch a street charge out of Wesley Shanna pairs, but they have nothing to lose, how many of the licenses can you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I get it, I mean obviously I was doing it, because one of my best lifers that was involved in this case, and believes in this guy's innocence, but I totally totally get it, and I'm not really, I'm not but hurt about it, I can promise you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the deal, speaking of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Presidents are nasty places, and they're full of shitheads, and, you know, there's some good people who just buy a single mistake, but there are some truly truly evil people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it's it's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Haley's case, her Madison's case.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think people really get it unless they've gone through it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've worked in prisons, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you the air doesn't even taste the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you walk in through the Sally Ports in the door shut, it is a whole, another world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And let me tell you about a prison.
[SPEAKER_01]: and why I'm not, but heard about not being going into Angola.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we are going to tell you about a double killer in prison, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's down for two light sentences.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like a television.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a whole bunch of them doing that in plus, plus and more, a lot more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then his name is Simon Levy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a double murder, and he's a prison one day, and he decided he didn't like one of prison guards.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what did he do?
[SPEAKER_01]: He stabbed the prison guard or the correct officer in the neck with a pin, and he tried to strain one, and this came out in court.
[SPEAKER_01]: Levy is 41, who was given a whole life since last week for killing two women, appeared in court, accused of attacking an officer at Maxim's Security HMP Bell Mars in February.
[SPEAKER_01]: He appeared over a video link at West Minister Mastricht's Court on Monday to the Nabobov charges.
[SPEAKER_01]: And David Burns, no relations to another guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got any of you going to do in life, according to Cocos Margar.
[SPEAKER_01]: David Barnes, the prosecutor, told the court that Levy was finishing the meeting with Paul Dunn, a Bell Marsh guard.
[SPEAKER_01]: We call him correct, so let's give him the respect.
[SPEAKER_01]: When he said, he attacked him with a pin, and stabbed him multiple times to the arm and neck.
[SPEAKER_01]: The court heard Mr. Dunn fail to the floor, and Levi then grabbed the officer around the throat, and then started to choke the shot out of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: 10-acre the deputy chief masterates sent the case to inter-lunding crown court for trial with a hearing set for September the 14.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason Lartei, levies lawyer, told the court, he denied intentional strangulation and assault the case in the actual body harm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like, how you going to deny it?
[SPEAKER_01]: This you and the crux and also in the room, and he's got pin holes in this net.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Levy was given what they call cross upon, Levy was given a whole life jail sentence after being convicted of murdering Carmenza Valencia Trujillo, who was 53, and he murdered her March last year, and Cheryl Wilkins 39, that he murdered five months later.
[SPEAKER_01]: The killer who was also convicted of rape and a woman in a car part, parking a lot for ushell.
[SPEAKER_01]: In January last year, appeared in court on several occasions between the two murders.
[SPEAKER_01]: After being charged with sex assaults on numerous women on the London Underground, they can assist the subway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the tack on the present guard happened on February 18th of this year when Levy was in custody of Wade and Trial for the double murders, rapes and multiple sexual assaults.
[SPEAKER_01]: Winner, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: After Levy Stinson, they said a row and erupted between Mitch Paul to police and prosecutors ever repeat it, failings that left him free to kill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, he killed him to see the slap on the wrist and he's out and killing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sound familiar?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: start Mark Raleigh, the head of the Metropolitan Police, criticised the Crown's prosecution service, were repeatedly failing to seek a warrant from the courts for levies arrest before he killed Miss Wilkins.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven parts, and the director of Public Prosecutions, apologize for the failings, but said different parts of the justice system should stop taking shots to each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't agree with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you, if you were just rubber stamping these bad guys out of prison and because you're overcrowded or whatever and you're, you know, you just hope and they're not going to continue to offend, they get out and they kill, well, you know what, you should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should have pot shots taken as you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a two weeks before Miss Wilkins was killed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Levy was a scheduled took here at the interlunding crown court.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't turn up, but no warrant was solved for his arrest by prosecutors and tutors.
[SPEAKER_01]: After Levy claimed he was having mental health issues.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to go to court today because I'm having bad thoughts, you know, that doesn't work like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The, how do you go and not get a fucking warrant?
[SPEAKER_01]: What court?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never been for judge or in a court reign where somebody didn't show up in the judge's initial warrant.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even understand what a legitimate excuse.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the Met has apologized for its own feelings, which has the local telegraph previously revealed, including lowering levees risk level from hot to medium in 2024, after he was blinded in
[SPEAKER_01]: and it was never upgraded again even after he was arrested with suspicion of murder.
[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all have a picture of the guy and he's missing an eye on what you don't need to as to rape a murder.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The one is good enough, evidently.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love my overseas lifers, but man, I love, I know we got some whack.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wack, walls over here, whack, things that happen, but y'all definitely got some too.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for F of professionals.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would go back to everybody's favorite place.
[SPEAKER_01]: You ready?
[SPEAKER_01]: Know what it is?
[SPEAKER_01]: Walmart.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hadn't been in one, and I only a year is probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I did, I had to run and get some, but the Florida Walmart worker told his armed friends to come to the store to take out a shopper who glared at him the wrong way.
[SPEAKER_01]: which led to a shootout near the checkout area, leaving the customer dead in an elderly man's shot in this corner court documents.
[SPEAKER_01]: The family of slain shopper Nathaniel Bayez who's 23 is soon
[SPEAKER_01]: in a recent file-in-boss lawyer, Todd Michael subscribe, how I see the vote called his friends to come to the store to confront and fight, as after confrontation between the two of them left, I see the bed thinking, he was going to get young.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you call it a cop's motherfucker?
[SPEAKER_01]: You call your, and I'm pretty sure it's gang related, but you call your friends come with their guns and that's why that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: The seat about who's 20 at the time was working as a digital shopper on the floor against this like a Instacard or some of the floor, the city's super store.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and a digital shopper is an employee who receives online orders and walks around the store with a cart, pulling items off the shelf for customers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, July 19, 2020, 23, Nathaniel Bayez, a few friends in a smile child, had come to
[SPEAKER_01]: While they were shopping, they encountered a CVO who was in uniform on the clock and perform in his work as a digital shopper.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sip part of his training was positioned as large cart in such a way that it did not block the aisle, or call as an obstruction of shoppers.
[SPEAKER_01]: people like that training left this card in the middle of the house and customers to have to file around it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess squeeze by the that is kind of fucking aggravating when but not to the point of killing somebody when people like leave their shit in the allow and you're trying to get by.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, as a bias group squeezed by the cart and freezer, a seat of a claims that wanted a thing as friends, go layered at him and muttered something including the word fuck under his breath at him.
[SPEAKER_01]: According to the following, a seat of a perceived this as a threat, and believe that the bias group was going to jump in, so he got in touch with his pals and told them it's a
[SPEAKER_01]: He got in his head that these people were going to jump in, instead of doing the one thing he was required, they would just call your manager.
[SPEAKER_01]: He decided to call us on friends, find out what this guy said, or why he looked at him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this, according to the local ABC, I feel like WPLG, instead of no fine management, a CD about went to the back, got his phone called a sister and letting her know that he felt he was in danger.
[SPEAKER_01]: He then called his brother, and then his brother's girlfriend, who was with the seat of his pals, Stephen Lesson, and Jermar Hodge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lesson regularly carried a firearm, and Hodge had previous subunit arrested for firearm possession.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said, had a seat of a simply followed his prescribed eddie and notified a manager, this incident would have never occurred.
[SPEAKER_01]: The likely outcome is that they wouldn't have had a seat of a weight in the back until the bi-esque group was gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: had security watched the bias group who was wholly unaware that there was any issue and none of this would occur.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, y'all got to remember this is coming from their side, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, a city of some in less than in hives was dramatically increased the likelihood of violence occurring in an escalated incident with the two men bringing firearms into the equation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Upon less than high-derived store, they joined with a CVO and went to find by us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, CVO usually are a fucked up professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, you know, it happened the way it happened, but you're fucked up professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said upon a poach in the group,
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you think this is going in?
[SPEAKER_01]: You call it your friends and they brought their guns near you're now actively seeking out this encounter.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they approached the group.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of my ass friends was holding a smile child.
[SPEAKER_01]: He passed the child to someone else to keep the child on a home as way.
[SPEAKER_01]: As these strangers are approached, ask him essentially why they had a problem when it's sooner or later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wars were changed and punches fully, and according to Bias' family, this led to less than taking out his gun and opening fire, isn't it, by fist fights anymore?
[SPEAKER_01]: When he did so, he was killed by as an injured and elderly man who was standing near the checkout area of what his wife.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, this is Captain obvious, but the entire incident would have been avoided had to see the way on the clock and work them for Walmart, simply followed his training and duty and netify his management.
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, his actions led to a murder of an innocent customer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the, you know, they said Walmart has farmed policies in place, requiring employees to
[SPEAKER_01]: the same duty generally held by an unarmed security guard.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they see any violent or potential violent activity.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they perceive a threat or so they notice anything out of the ordinary.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they said this responsibility is not optional.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Evidently a CVO had already had an
[SPEAKER_01]: he reported an alteration in the store the days leading up to the murder of Nathaniel Vias.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he reported it and didn't work for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there you have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Walmart has not responded for requests to the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure they'll be writing checks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how y'all feel about Chad G-P-T or AR.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm just really starting to learn a lot about it the other night, my mom and I sit back at the cabin and I've been using their eye light look up different things.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've heard me using the shirt, but the we were going back with her relatives, like the 1800s coming from Sicily and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, they had everything, everything about them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They could tell you when they were born, who they married.
[SPEAKER_01]: all this stuff and then the other day I had my friends here, we were cooking and I was sitting at the table and they made a picture of me, didn't look fake, like I was surrounded around, I was sitting down to table and I was actually cutting stuff up, that's what was up to fry.
[SPEAKER_01]: in it they made a picture of all these cops standing around me and and said a cutting-up stuff to fry had stacks I kilos of of whatever was cocaine and big stacks of money and I was there counting out my money right and it looked I mean it would look real I took to me the my real picture me said the table and plugged everything else in it
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, I had it, you know, I was told years ago that it was going to be a game changer and actually it must be.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't imagine the power, I know it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of shit shows about these, these data centers, like they're going to build one in West Flishana, the next pair of Shover from me and the call to the energy and all that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand how that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chad G. P. T. is here to stay people, but I'm going to act on Massachusetts, and a teenager is charged with killing his mother and brother.
[SPEAKER_01]: In a case, it's linked to Chad G. P. T. I don't even know what this stands for, but he's been arrested and is being held without bail.
[SPEAKER_01]: his name is Arhan Arvin and he's 17 years old y'all and he was wearing handcuffs when a night guilty plea to murder and several other charges was entered on behalf at his
[SPEAKER_01]: He's accused of killing his 45-year-old mother, Suta, then a kid test son, and her 14-year-old brother Sid Arth Arvine.
[SPEAKER_01]: In their home, one Tuesday afternoon, this quarter-prosecuvalious Susan Moiam, and she said that physical calls of death has not been determined yet, but she said it was physical and a violent struggle.
[SPEAKER_01]: said at this time, based on the evidence that was found at the scene, it was apparent that blunt force trauma was used in some fashion on both individuals.
[SPEAKER_01]: What pretty much, these are heads were cave down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Auburn must found several hours after the murders at 3.4 a.m.
[SPEAKER_01]: And his mom's car, in a parking lot, and was arrested.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said a number of the items found in the car, correspond to the mirror scene, I'm through the firm, he didn't get rid of the hammer or whatever he is, but they said, they always say that's for the you'll need it, there's no word yet on a motive.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at a news conference, Nelson is arrest, the middle sex district attorney Marian Ryan said the teen had been recently demonstrating some concerning behavior, including using the internet and chat GPT to make searches for theoretical ideas or fantasy stories regarding the killing of his family.
[SPEAKER_01]: The poor document showed that everybody's father had recently become worried about a son's behavior and internet activity and has started hiding the knives in the house.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a 16 year old silhouette home.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to go into the military early.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to finish up school early, but if I'm worried about his shit, to the point where I got to start hadn't knives, of course my house is full of guns.
[SPEAKER_01]: Knows and guns on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take it beyond, I'm not going to have to hide my shit because I'm going to get him somewhere where you need to get help.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you so scared of your teenager that you have to hide the weapons in your house, why don't you get him some help?
[SPEAKER_01]: So after the Raymond Arun's defense attorney, Debra DeWitt, I'm going to hear what comes, spoke briefly with a report and said, when they left the house, he didn't
[SPEAKER_01]: So he is in my words, and somewhat of a shock situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he fucking wouldn't laugh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do it told CBS Newsballs and the family recently made to act and to provide a support system in school for the kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the father just wants to help his son, and she added that Arvine had not spoken with his father since the murders, and I'm pretty sure he thinks dad might be mad because he killed his sibling and his mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: they said to it has requested a psychiatric evaluation from the team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that definitely needs to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's due back in court on September 11th, 9.11.
[SPEAKER_01]: So here you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sad, but interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not high at my shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll lock my kid up before I have
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you're hoping, well, he won't really do it, but he's been looking up on Chad GPT and like a Chad GPT will give you some serious instructions and then they ask you after they give you the shit that you want to know and like can you tell me what caliber weapons are going to be used or this and that and what have you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty fast-slaying shit, but not for this family, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for family matters.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were all out to this family in Pennsylvania, who was a family.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a family home was destroyed and what appeared to be a freak fire burned down.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this fire guys, I don't know how they do it, but they're very, very good for jobs.
[SPEAKER_01]: but investigators uncovered a far more disturbing story as they disabled mother abandoned her dead baby in a bathtub and then she ran like a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's hiding.
[SPEAKER_01]: Disappeared without a trace.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said on this tranquill residence, just read Pennsylvania, during the early morning hours in summer of 2007, emergency responders race to the home, which was on fire, on frugate drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: When officers got to the scene, the fire had already devastated, a substantial portion of the property, and firefighters
[SPEAKER_01]: found the dead, baby boy, and a bathtub, this crazy, but his mom nowhere to be seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: The investigation determined the fire was deliberately set with evidence of an accelerant discovered at the scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: An autopsy couldn't establish the emphasis that calls the death, but concluded he had
[SPEAKER_01]: the baby jet that Colin Joey had mild learning disabilities with the proximate mental capacity of a 14-year-old and had a pronounced speech impediment.
[SPEAKER_01]: said she could become overwhelmed by her challenges and was known to withdraw from others.
[SPEAKER_01]: Refused in response to phone calls or answers her door for extended periods in this place according to the lug of THJ News.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said it merged that Joey had always dreamed of having a family around.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was raised in a broken home after her parents divorced when she was
[SPEAKER_01]: Joey was described as an extremely shy and insecure child with her mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sherry Halleyett, known that she maintained a child-like innocence, if you will.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Joey had pursued journalism studies for a year at Shepard University in West Virginia, but left after not passing her first year, because then she worked various jobs and then she became a mother to two children who were nine and two years old in 2007.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her relationship with her oldest child's father ended.
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe moved to Sykesfield, where she delivered her third child, what Alexis Browon, who was an on and off partner, who was also the father of Joey's second child.
[SPEAKER_01]: Joey's mother said she was happy there and loved her children.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately, Joey's eldest children were staying with relatives at the time of the fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: Joey's other two children were also staying with relatives.
[SPEAKER_01]: authorities launched the missing persons investigation for Joey, confirm she had vanished under suspicious circumstances.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you did babies in the bathtub and your house is bar down in your going.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be suspicious for anyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Law enforcement suspected someone may have kidnapped or murdered her as her
[SPEAKER_01]: Two days following the fire on July 16th, the authorities discovered Joey's vehicle parked outside an apartment complex about seven miles east of her home.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to the mystery, the car was positioned outside an apartment where Joey had previously
[SPEAKER_01]: investigators said they were searching for Joey out of concern for her welfare.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of this, probably true.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, who wants to think a mom killed their kid and left them in the bathtub?
[SPEAKER_01]: Her relative's immediately assisted Joey could not have been behind the wheel.
[SPEAKER_01]: The vehicle's parked perfectly and as a family net it, Joey was neither a skilled driver nor
[SPEAKER_01]: The Lexus claim he had no idea how the vehicle ended up positioned outside the apartment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's full of shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: The work in theory initially suggested that Joey had murdered her son, ignite the blazing disappear.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this court in the state police trooper Bruce A. Moore said, and he said, it's almost like she's fallen off the face of the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm confident this case is going to be resolved.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is the key to the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: The relative suspect Joey may have managed today prior to the fire, as a bag of rotting hamburger meat was discovered in her refrigerator, and she was last seen one July to 5th.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two days following Christmas in 2007, a skeletal remains were found in Somerset, Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_01]: The remains were those of a petite brown-haired woman between 30 and 40 years old who had died during the summer months.
[SPEAKER_01]: the body share characteristics of Joey and detects his handling her disappearance quickly reached out to the summer set of thornies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Though, guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: They investigated and we had one Joey, so you got another dead body in the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: in July of 2008, Joey's relatives offered a reward of 15,000 for information that helped them find her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And why one of her nephews said she didn't simply manage, she would never leave a children behind.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, each of us breaks him for the news that she is dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: If anyone knows anything or saw anything, even if they didn't think at the time that at many things, please call the Pennsylvania State Police.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her mom said, I believe that someone in that little town knows what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's taken me more than a year to run through my mind, but I believe it's somebody that she knew.
[SPEAKER_01]: well guess what show I've been on twice America's most wanted got it and they ran the story then they received a tip from the Cater Alabama from an individual claiming to have a spoken mojoia and the Cater during November.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the second anniversary of the disappearance, the reward fund for finding her was raised to $20,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you said, I think that we're at the point working on the assumption that she was the victim of a crime and most likely she's dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're looking for a body.
[SPEAKER_01]: that's very difficult for us to say we can't fathom any other possibility she certainly wouldn't run off her own leaving her other children around well you know maybe not but she didn't just leave her other children around she left one of them dead or somebody left one of them dead in the bathtub
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe's relatives indicated that Alexis Brustlin has assisted and participated fully throughout the investigation.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mr. Parsiboltz and the described Joe is 5 foot 3 white one more Sunday frame brown hairs are brown eyes and she may have been wearing glasses at the time or disappearance.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so y'all, that's 20, 19 years, 19 years, and yeah, the family doesn't believe whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that she did or she didn't, but either way, the family's been suffering for 19 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's now resolutions to who murdered the baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you want to why I do these justice for cases.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for family matters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, parents did it and it takes all kinds and they doubt about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All kinds of good parents, bad parents, really shitty parents and there's some just, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: the lower end, you're still really shitty parent, but you're not a killer or a rapist or anything like that, and I'm gonna tell you about it in Arizona a couple, and y'all this has to be one of the stupidest things of all time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you never dare to Arizona, it's hot AF right now, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And in...
[SPEAKER_01]: football's getting started everywhere and I can always remember two-day practices and everything and it'd be been so hot or going to watch hellish practices and different things and it's just balls high right we're going to Arizona and I'm going to tell you you know what let me play it for you and we'll talk about it
[SPEAKER_00]: on a child abuse charge accused of walking their children in extreme heat after an Arizona Cardinals open practice last weekend.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's what Kordakiman showed.
[SPEAKER_00]: The woman saw a woman saw Ryan and Maymall in the couple right there with their two-year-old and four-year-old children near 91st Avenue in Montvello.
[SPEAKER_00]: Woman says that the adults appeared to be intoxicated.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan was stumbling and fell over one of the kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is according to that woman,
[SPEAKER_00]: maybe have gotten sick and voluminated.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan got mad when the woman offered them a ride, started punching the car, also fell head of space on the vehicle, causing that black eye, you see the picture.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the woman called police.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan reported the ignored and officers command to stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had to forcefully be handcuffed because he resisted arrest.
[SPEAKER_00]: May told officers they were walking for about three hours after leaving state farm stadium.
[SPEAKER_00]: Temperature that time, 108 degrees.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what the WCF, the decide, I'm going to bring my two-year-old and four-year-old to an open practice, you know, for the car knows going to watch him, we got a good
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they didn't have a vehicle, but inside did a good deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I deal to walk for three hours, but you get so hammered in its hotter and hell and air is done right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like it is always down, it's just a dryer.
[SPEAKER_01]: He and you get so hammered that you trip and fall over your own kids and you can't walk.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then
[SPEAKER_01]: So my pulls over out accounts are hard to offer your family a ride because you got a two year on a four year old walking in this dead as heat and then you
[SPEAKER_01]: get angry and punch their vehicle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you fell in hurt your face and well y'all saw the mugshot in his face is definitely after up, but I'm pretty sure that probably came from the police because he was this, the police, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they said the father, when police arrived and also told
[SPEAKER_01]: The father then grabbed his child's wrist, refusing to let go when the police officer ran up to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rye Mullin eventually that guy of the kid when the officer threatened to use force and he was restrained.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said it's unclear what the couple's blood alcohol content was, but police reported that they smelled alcohol and you can't say that because alcohol does not have a smell.
[SPEAKER_01]: on both Ryan and Mae Mullins' breath, and they both had slurred speech and bloodshot eyes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mae Mullins told police the family had been walking for roughly three hours after leaving the NFL practice.
[SPEAKER_01]: When the authorities asked whether the toddlers had enough water, Mae Mullins said they drank two bottles.
[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the bottles of water was still half way full.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is unclear what conditions the kids were in, what the authorities found them, but what exposed to extreme heat, especially for extended periods.
[SPEAKER_01]: People can develop heatstroke, which is the most severe heat-related illness.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's kind of Captain obvious, but a couple of now faces a child abuse charge and Ryan was also charged with three counts of disorderly conduct.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it kind of a, we can end it on that today because it's kind of a good story because
[SPEAKER_01]: those babies are alive and they they didn't die heat stroke and no one got killed and
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm trying to like, I think when you go to NFL games now, slight baseball games, I think they quit selling alcohol in the seventh inning or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't tell you, for sure, this how it is in NFL, I think they quit selling last one one, two is a money-knife football game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was the Minnesota I think they quit selling
[SPEAKER_01]: like the end of the third quarter or something right because they want you to sober up some before you go home.
[SPEAKER_01]: But these people, I guess, the practices and drink whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: But who knows, they may have been stopping the local ball range.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're shit on the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the kids are alive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Parents get charged and pretty sure they don't have custody of the kids anymore, the two-year-old, how far can a two-year-old walk in three hours?
[SPEAKER_01]: My two-year-old Mugat Mugat, my granddaughter, and she's like, put me in a stroller, Popeau, but I don't have to figure it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: There you have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I love and appreciate each and every one of y'all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to mention something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember the name of me yet, but, um, a Stephanie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Courtney Cocos Mama has written a book about the whole life and story of and Cindy's been helping her with the polishing and I think they're almost done and I have not, I have not read it myself yet but I'm going to the, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: be very interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: See y'all look for that when it comes out and we'll announce it on real life or crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, thank you to all the lifers who helped solve that case instead by us to all the years of challenges and going to court and everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's do the same thing, hashtag what happened to Madison, really, and hashtag what happened to Stephanie, he'd be also, and the other one in there messing, but we're going to get to that, and hopefully it'll be sooner than later.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Woody Overton, you host a true crime time for August the 19th,