True Crime Time For August 27, 2026 | A Wife’s Death Ruled Suicide, Law Enforcement Couple Arrested & 30 Years on Death Row
On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody opens with another message for everyone following What Happened to Madison: hang on. Because the episode was recorded a day early, he still can’t reveal what he believes is coming, but promises the Lifers will hear about any break in the case as soon as he can share it.
For On This Day in Crime, Woody looks back at Edmund “Ed” Kemper, the infamous Co-Ed Killer, who committed his first murders in 1964 when he killed his grandparents, Edmund Emil Kemper Sr. and Maude Matilda Kemper. Kemper would later murder six more women, including his mother and her friend, before surrendering to authorities.
Then it’s F’d Up Professionals, and Woody turns to the arrest of San Francisco 49ers principal owner Jed York in East Palestine, Ohio. York was arrested after allegedly responding to an undercover prostitution advertisement. He later pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct and possessing criminal tools. Court records show the original prostitution-related charge was amended, and York was fined $1,150.
The episode then moves into a case that hits several familiar RLRC themes at once. Jeremy Perrin, a Missouri fire chief, reserve deputy sheriff, and assistant coroner, has been charged in connection with the 2025 shooting death of his wife, Shelby Kessler Perrin. Her death was initially reported as a possible self-inflicted gunshot wound after Jeremy allegedly told investigators she pulled a gun from the center console and shot herself while he was driving on Interstate 55.
But investigators kept digging. According to the case described in the episode, they discovered video hidden on Shelby’s phone that allegedly showed Jeremy striking, choking, and threatening her. Investigators also recovered an earlier message in which Jeremy allegedly warned that his escalating rage could ultimately leave Shelby needing a “body bag.” Because of Jeremy’s positions within local public-safety agencies, the investigation was turned over to the Missouri State Highway Patrol. He now faces charges including second-degree murder, domestic assault, harassment, and tampering with physical evidence.
Next, Woody stays close to home with a domestic violence case in East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana involving two people connected to the local criminal justice system. Shelby Nelson, who works for the 20th Judicial District Attorney’s Office, and her husband, David Nelson, a Slaughter police officer and part-time Jackson marshal, were both arrested following a domestic dispute. Video recorded by their son allegedly captured part of the altercation, while Shelby told investigators that the video did not show the full context and alleged that her husband had also assaulted and choked her. Both were booked on misdemeanor domestic-abuse charges.
Then it’s Planes, Trains and Automobiles in San Antonio, where 25-year-old Brandon Christopher Figueroa allegedly fled a Texas Department of Public Safety traffic stop, led troopers on a high-speed pursuit, crashed through a gate, and ended up on a runway at San Antonio International Airport. Troopers took him into custody at gunpoint and allegedly discovered a firearm in the vehicle.
The final portion of the episode takes a much more serious turn as Woody examines the case of Tyrone Noling, who has spent roughly three decades on Ohio’s death row while maintaining that he did not murder elderly couple Bearnhardt and Cora Hartig in 1990.
Noling was convicted after other young men implicated him, but those witnesses later recanted. No physical evidence tied Noling to the murders, the murder weapon was never
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you haven't found out,
[SPEAKER_00]: Hashtag, what happened to Madison yet?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on, because it's coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't tell you it for sure when it's coming, because I just can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but it seems that it comes out, and then we get a break in the case, so I'm going to let you all know.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and on this day,
[SPEAKER_00]: 1964 at Kemper for what a piece of shit committed his first martyrs, martyrs being plural.
[SPEAKER_00]: He murdered his grandparents.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then nice, and I keep going back because I never need my grandparents.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all deceased.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I had, right, and then my grandbaby and my mama's got, I don't know, it's 21 or 23, and two great grandkids, and just the love that they have, right, and then this deed murder is, but Edmund, Emma, and Maude, Kemper, and he marked he killed him after an argument.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw other things, I didn't know if my grandparents were alive, I would never do as argued with them, it'd be like talking back to my daddy, or my mom, and they wouldn't knock the shit out of me, not child abuse, because I'm sure what it would have been deserve, but Kemper killed five more times, which is
[SPEAKER_00]: gave him the name, the Kuwait killer, not because there's grandparents because he picked up girls who needed a ride, suffocated, raped and killed them.
[SPEAKER_00]: His last martyrs were that of his mother and her friend, Sally Hallett.
[SPEAKER_00]: He killed his mother,
[SPEAKER_00]: cut off her head and then he raped her cut off head or severed head.
[SPEAKER_00]: He raped it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he attempted to put her tongue in the kitchen garbage disposal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Y'all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody knows him.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you see me in the shows, whatever he's known for his height, this dude is six foot nine, six foot nine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ellis, you just got a transfer that went into the NFL from Ole Miss last year, this dude, six foot eight, 330 pounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a beast, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Six foot nine.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many people do you see there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Six foot nine and also he was a genius evidently.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like his IQ was just phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the devil can be smart, see.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, right, right, the bunch of cool guys, but just started by killing your grandparents,
[SPEAKER_00]: your mother cut off her head and then you rape her face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not good, Mr. Kemper.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I always say, I'm sure the fire is a hell barn a little bit brighter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, I'm just going to have some true crime time for Thursday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, I'm going to say something stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess I could put it under a professional because it's what he's not in for.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for F of professionals.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the NFL.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm like, I love to watch it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, yeah, they screwed a lot of things up.
[SPEAKER_00]: all this non-contact hitting and all that whatever course I don't have to play it and all I have to worry about brain injuries and all the stuff they have, but they've changed everything, they keep changing the rules and all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well the one thing they haven't changed or
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that change is not, but they have what they call the NFL Conduct Rule.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you make millions and millions and millions of dollars a year, you should behave yourself, period.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you should behave yourself anyway, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not, doesn't just apply to players.
[SPEAKER_00]: It applies to the owners in the,
[SPEAKER_00]: owners of the San Francisco 49ers, one of the most storied programs in all the NFL.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is not a bad by the rules, or you know, I don't know what the f this dude is thinking,
[SPEAKER_00]: for trying to have sex with a prostitute for a hundred and forty dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know a lot about, well, I know a lot about prostitutes, I guess, but they did not because of yeast, but they're definitely low in and high in.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got your street walkers, you crack heads, etc.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it might be $20 or $40 or whatever, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you got high in call girls, $1,000 a night, or for an hour, however long it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: This deed, they have.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got more money than probably Donald Trump, and he got arrested at 9.35 a.m. At the Wheat Hill Mobile Home Community in East Palestine, Ohio, on Sunday, August 23rd, after he responded to a prostitution ad.
[SPEAKER_00]: show that he responded to an undercover ad on a known prostitution website.
[SPEAKER_00]: He arranged to have sexual activity with the female in exchange for 140 bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is per ESPN.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was arrested when he arrived at the greed meat location and he possessed the cell phone he used to respond to
[SPEAKER_00]: to the Mahoney Valley Human Trafficking Task Force assisted the department in the wrestling Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, according to these Palestine Police Department in the ESPN.
[SPEAKER_00]: People magazine confirmed on Monday, I was 23 that York, who's 46, played no contest to misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct.
[SPEAKER_00]: After the initial charge of engaging in prostitution was amended and he had a charge of possessing criminal tools.
[SPEAKER_00]: the 49ers ordering the legislation said as this is a legal matter which has been resolved we will not be providing any further comment at this time well y'all how has been resolved they book him in right and you get everybody gets a chance to say guilty not guilty or whatever well he pled out i mean his lawyers i'm sure for the best of the world
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they had a private jet flight overnight to get hall-ass and get there being the quarreling and brokered deal form down to a miswem, pretty sure the prosthesis charge was misdemeanor also, but so that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't have the same thing else about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[SPEAKER_00]: The Klomianna county ordered York to serve a single day in jail for both charges.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was given a credit of one day for time, sir.
[SPEAKER_00]: The 49ers owner was also ordered to pay fines of 1,150 dollars for the court records.
[SPEAKER_00]: New York became the chief executive officer of the 49ers in 2010, and 2024, he became the principal owner after his mother Denise DeBartello York sold him additional equity of the organization, and it's core to USA today's sports.
[SPEAKER_00]: y'all, they said that, first of all, this trailer park is just totally coincidental.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they shade on the trailer park.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like where the cops set up that, the fake address at.
[SPEAKER_00]: But.
[SPEAKER_00]: I read this guy is worth like a billion dollars, or the organization, the part that he owns, is worth like $500 million.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's worth like a billion dollars, and he is driving in the middle
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, could have gone anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he could took his private jet and went to a country with prostitutes just legal.
[SPEAKER_00]: He got flown out to the bunny ranch, outside of Las Vegas with prostitutes just legal.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now I'm gonna slip over here for 140 bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not even what he'd been on a pair of socks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, figure it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what people have going on in the brains, I guess, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for family matters.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for F-UP professionals.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this is a two for
[SPEAKER_00]: evil in the world is real.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they got a guy named Jeremy Perian.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's 45 years old, but you know, it's a good story.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not it's a bad story, and actually because Margaret involved it's a good story because it called these assholes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy Perian 45 was a restaurant Friday August 21st in the connection with the June 2025 death.
[SPEAKER_00]: murder, let's just say murder, death of a 31-year-old Shelby Kelser perenn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let me tell you the rest of the story.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of fire chief and reserve deputy share, have been arrested and charged with murder more than a year after his wife was shot on a
[SPEAKER_00]: Missouri State Highway Patrol, a rest of Jammer Perrin, who's 45 at about 7.25 a.m. local time on Friday, August of 24th, in connection with the death of 31-year-old Shelby Kelsau Perrin.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was murdered on June 29th at 2025.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy has been charged with secondary murder, first degree harassment, second degree domestic assault, and two counts of tampering with physical evidence.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when it first came out, the local Fox affiliate KBSI says Shelby's death was first reported as a possible self-inflicted gunshot wound.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, police found that she had been riding as a passenger in a vehicle being driven on Interstate 55 on June the 29th when she sustained a gunshot went into the head at 3.43 a.m. local time.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was pronounced dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now,
[SPEAKER_00]: What is what is our Non hero in the story day would Jeremy initially told police that she'll be pulled a handgun From the center console and shot or so and said they're interactions before the shooting were not argumentative.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look If you're gonna do that I mean if you're gonna just
[SPEAKER_00]: make it more believable, at least say you were arguing, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she shot herself.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's just, you're riding down the interstate in the middle of the night.
[SPEAKER_00]: She just pulls out what's out of pistol and just shoots herself in the head.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, very, very few times I've ever had females that actually shot themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, come on, come in to a side.
[SPEAKER_00]: He later acknowledged that there had been an argument sorely before his wife was shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, after his sugar trying to shut investigators, this is this is.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I love where I was talking about videos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Best skaters found a video in a hidden folder on Shelby's phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: They did made in 19th of 2025, which alleged to show Jeremy's striking, choking, and repeatedly punching his wife, as well as grabbing her by the throat and threatening to kill her.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Sikstem Missouri resident also admitted the leading messages from both his and Shelby's claims after the shooting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, I don't believe them because they had been arguing and he felt the death was his fault.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure it was because you pulled the trigger, but not because she committed suicide.
[SPEAKER_00]: an older message from Jeremy that also has recovered from Shelby's phone dated April 20th 2020 25th state it you 100% will need a body bag if I stay with you each time my rage is worse
[SPEAKER_00]: The Scott County Sheriff's Office also shared a statement in which Sheriff dare weatly explain that due to Jeremy being a fire chief, a reserved deputy, and an assistive corner in the county.
[SPEAKER_00]: The investigation was handed over to the Missouri State Highway Patrol.
[SPEAKER_00]: said, I personally knew both Shelby and Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I worked alongside Jeremy at numerous fire scenes and calls for service.
[SPEAKER_00]: This has never been something not so quietly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to leave just as much as Shelby's family friends in the community did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today's charges demonstrated exactly why we turned this investigation over from the beginning and why we're remaining patient and allowed independent agencies to follow the evidence wherever it led.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[SPEAKER_00]: finally they cuffed the stuff old Jeremy took him to the starter counting jail and he's being held without bond.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No such thing as a perfect friend of me all and that's why you have to work this case even though the
[SPEAKER_00]: with a hard, hardest cases in the world could take all these easy ones, but hardest cases in the world have an entry-wise, you know, because they're old and, and bodies haven't been found stuff like that, but you know what, there's no such thing as a perfect crime.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you think you committed a perfect crime, I don't know what this is like, what the saying is, but they say, if you think you committed a perfect crime, they're at least 10 things you have to up.
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy thankfully they found some of them, but let me take you to the next one.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for family matters.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for f-ed up professionals.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, my buttons aren't stuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's I'm giving you exact same type of story.
[SPEAKER_00]: of this time to buy died, thankfully, and actually, I'm pretty sure I know these people.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'd be right here, easily channeled Louisiana, a couple of guys to fight, so this couple gets arrested, but the problem is they both are tied to law enforcement or law prosecution.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Shelby Nelson, who's a traffic coordinator for the 20th to digital district attorney's office, which side of Quillow, y'all, if you live in East and West, you got to buy it for him, is a good deed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Side of Quillow.
[SPEAKER_00]: is running for.
[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, Sam Dequila is actually the district attorney for a couple of months.
[SPEAKER_00]: And her husband, David Nelson, they were arrested following the domestic violence dispute right here in my yard, not actually in my yard, but not far in the East Fleet, China, Paris, Louisiana.
[SPEAKER_00]: And let me
[SPEAKER_00]: Two stories in a row, husband and wife, and a little video.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the altercation capturing on video.
[SPEAKER_00]: The rest after David's indicate that video evidence showed Shelby Nelson, the wife, slapping her husband, punching him with a closed fist, and grabbing him around the neck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Shelby Nelson,
[SPEAKER_00]: stated to investigators that the video lacked the full context and alleged that David Nelson shoved her, pinned her to a counter and choked her until she lost consciousness.
[SPEAKER_00]: She said that the physical abuse had it was ongoing and had been occurring in the home, but went unreported.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a boy calls an issue with her husband's career.
[SPEAKER_00]: y'all, it'll matter if you, I mean, if your husband is a cop and he's being a shed out of you, have mercy, everybody has to answer, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: The course, the couple is currently going through divorce proceedings.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now Shelby Nelson serves as a full-time traffic coordinator and child support intake staff member for the local district attorney's office.
[SPEAKER_00]: David Nelson is identified and local reporting as a law enforcement official with the region's criminal justice system.
[SPEAKER_00]: The husband, David Nelson is a slaughter police officer, slaughter being the town of it's the first.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you come right up the middle of the parish
[SPEAKER_00]: town or city, I guess you can call it, but always call it the town or village, when you come in into East Flint, Santa Paris.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's a slaughter police officer and his wife worked for the DA's office and they both were arrested Friday after the fight at their home one Thursday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, David Nelson is a full-time police officer and a part-time Jackson Marshall, and that's the town of Jackson, Louisiana, which is just a little bit further up the road from slaughter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then both were booked Friday with Mr. Meiner Domestic Abuse, and they were later released.
[SPEAKER_00]: David Nelson went to the pair's shelter at approximately 8 a.m. Friday to report a fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: He provided the video recorded by his son, without his mother's knowledge, that showed part of the fight, or this according to the rest of the documents.
[SPEAKER_00]: David Nelson said, shelving Nelson came home for work in a bad mood, and during an argument, she began swinging, hitting, and strangling him, while sitting on the couch.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, he told a son to call police, but that is why he said, he should not call,
[SPEAKER_00]: and that's when David Nelson gave the deputies with these fluently-chanted sheriff's office, good friends of mine.
[SPEAKER_00]: The video has sun-recorded.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shelby is seeing standing bent over only inches from David's face, screaming it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shelby repeatedly slaps David with both hands, then punches him in the face for the clothes face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also spitting in his face and grabbing him around the neck and leaving visible marks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, she flips the story around and
[SPEAKER_00]: She said that, uh, what she left the residence that morning, she asked David not to be at the house when she returned.
[SPEAKER_00]: David told her that he was not going to leave.
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they're going through the divorce.
[SPEAKER_00]: But she said that after she got in his face, he shoved her and then grabbed her and pinned her to the counter and choken her.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that she nearly lost consciousness.
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you, you know this, you're in law enforcement.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, you work in a DA's office, child support, whatever, whatever capacity you work in, come on man, you know, the laws in domestic violence is bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does it when they do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happens?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, this proves anyone can get a jail.
[SPEAKER_00]: I always say if I play this one for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: planes, trains, and automobiles.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go roll out to San Antonio, Texas, Bayer County State Troopers arrested to drive our early Saturday morning after a high speed vehicle proceed ended with a crash on a runway at the San Antonio in San Antonio International Airport.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's according to police radio transmissions.
[SPEAKER_00]: The pursuit began around 1.30 a.m. when it takes this department of public safety or it's for that's what they call the trooper's all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Attempted a traffic stop on the 2012 Chrysler Pass in your car and the driver of the vehicle was identified as 25-year old Brandon Christopher Fagerio.
[SPEAKER_00]: According to the trooper, Figuario evaded through various parts of the city until he crashed into gate off of Jones, rode into the San Antonio Airport runway.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now look, I've flown out of that airport a lot of times when I had to go there for business.
[SPEAKER_00]: The, it's small.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't imagine at three o'clock in the morning they had any flights coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: But troopers took Figaro into custody at gunpoint shortly after the crash.
[SPEAKER_00]: And guess what?
[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't wrong for doing that because they found when they searched the core.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, actually, you got a toe and get it all thrown away.
[SPEAKER_00]: And before you can toe, you have to inventory it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They found a firearm in the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was arrested for evading an emoter vehicle and unlawful carry-in of a weapon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the driver's identity.
[SPEAKER_00]: it potentially charges and details regarding any flight disruptors they are poor or available at that time, I'm pretty sure there's nothing going on that time in the morning matter if I got another it because I'm flying out there on the first flight at like five a.m.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there you go, get in a vehicle per seat and crash to offense after running all of the city in Cincinnati is pretty big city, run it all over the city and end up on the runway, planes, trains, automobiles, you know, I don't like
[SPEAKER_00]: in some people in prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I spent my career since I've been out of law enforcement, doing defense work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now there's a lot of people I do defense work on need to get a prison and I'm not saying that or that they haven't because they're guilty, AF, right, but summary.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some are not.
[SPEAKER_00]: And those are the ones that I fight for.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to go out to how
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, how chicken on one mouth.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said that definitely is a more torn hideous.
[SPEAKER_00]: And let you decide on what you think about this, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause up for once, I won't be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't be the death hammer, if you will, because I didn't definitely believe in the death penalty.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a man who has been on a high-ose death rate for 30 years, for double homicide, he says he did not commit and he is seeking a full pardon as court and a local WSYX.
[SPEAKER_00]: Back on April 5, 1990, a neighbor found burn heart and core heartache, both who were 81 years old, three years younger than my mother.
[SPEAKER_00]: The neighbor found them dead in their home and ported portage county.
[SPEAKER_00]: the couple have been shot multiple times with a 25 caliber automatic handgun and if you don't know anything about firearms, that's like the smallest calorie you can get besides a 22, right, meaning the smallest bullet.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like almost shooting with a pellet gun.
[SPEAKER_00]: But at that time, Tyrone knowing was 18 years old.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the cops believed he was part of a group involved in a string of home robberies involving elderly couples.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other teenagers in the group implicated knowing in the murders.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in 1995, a jury indicted him, and he just sent us to death.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, now 54 years old, Nolan has maintained his innocence for three decades.
[SPEAKER_00]: On August 18th, he appeared before there was a high parole board to argue for full pardon in the clemency hearing.
[SPEAKER_00]: This, the first for an Ohio death row inmate since 2020.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the Ohio Innocence Project is helping him out in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he is collected evidence that he was not involved in heart disease murder.
[SPEAKER_00]: According to the Associated Press, some of the evidence gathered and includes rescinded witness testimony, that happens all the time, and the teams that initially implicated knowing later recanneth their statements, saying that police pressured them to name him as a shooter.
[SPEAKER_00]: there was also never any physical evidence time knowing to the martyrs discovered in the martyr weapon was never found.
[SPEAKER_00]: Before I go in in further, if you just listen to this, I could tear the support easily.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's already been convicted.
[SPEAKER_00]: What have you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Now when this is retaining their statements, a lot of times, saying all the time and I do work with some of the innocent projects, I have work with some of them in different states, but a lot of times when they were can't their statements, they're already doing like a life in prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they go to them and they're like, hey, just, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: where you lie in, and they'll say, yeah, we're lying.
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes a statement, it's representative, you have an incident, and they come and find out that they get on the stand and say, I was just just joking, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or they don't want to see the parts put the death because they're doing life anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not saying that's what happens in this case, but here we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said it is also speculated, that's cigarette, but that was found in the hearty
[SPEAKER_00]: one being Dan Wilson who was executed in Ohio in 2009 for a different crime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wilson had also allegedly been heard bragging about committing the crime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm pretty sure this is a jailhouse appointment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not trying to be negative mainstream, just talking with past my head.
[SPEAKER_00]: In 2017, Nolan tried to peel the ruling by requesting DNA testing of the cigarette butt, as well as other evidence from the crying scene, but he was unsuccessful.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are also chain stances by the sheriff and one of the jurors at no one's trial.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know about the sheriff part, but jurors change their mind all the time when they sit there for 30 years and think about their cynicism, this got to death.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, at the
[SPEAKER_00]: Saying there were red flags at the time of the investigation and that new evidence is convinced him of no one's innocence.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I believe that these boys were and are innocent.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he told this to such a hit of press.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, no one is seeking release from prison and has said he would not accept a commentation to the life without parole for a crime he didn't commit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the parole board is expected to deliberate and deliver the recommendation to governor Mike Dewine.
[SPEAKER_00]: interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting for the sheriff come out and say this red flies.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can guarantee he wasn't the sheriff back then.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I bet you don't know this because I don't know it.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many death row inmates have been pardoned?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, the death penalty carries inherent risk of executing an innocent person.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I always say given their 30 or 40 years on death row, exhaust all appeals, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_00]: Since 1973, at least 222 people who were wrongly convicted, since the death in the U.S., have been exonerated.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's according to the innocence,
[SPEAKER_00]: interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder how many of those we can't have statements and how many are actually being able to say ask.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here's a question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it true that 4% of defraut inmates are innocent?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's to the right, now you have to take this as a grain of salt, where he's reported, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: The rate of a ronious conviction of innocent criminal defendants is often described as not merely unknown, but unknowable.
[SPEAKER_00]: We use survival analysis to model this effect and estimate that if all deaf sinners defend this remain under sentence of death indefinitely, at least 4.1% would be exonerated.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now look.
[SPEAKER_00]: Totally telling me some of my it's unfortunate some of Morris and and I know one Good friend Thomas Davenport's buddy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he had they sent him to defray and for Mars that he did commit and I'm I'm reading this book the um
[SPEAKER_00]: this dude wasn't even in the same state when it happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was all off of a bad, I witnessed the identification.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know, the, um, here's an interesting one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can a pregnant woman be put on death right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Pregnant woman can be sentenced to death, but execution is typically delayed until after childbirth.
[SPEAKER_00]: I bet that's never happened before.
[SPEAKER_00]: has a pregnant woman ever been sentenced to death.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, but what happens is the comic is pregnant while on death Friday.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, there's only one lady that I know of, lady, one bitch that I know of, that is, on death run and state of Louisiana, and I did the story on her, that said, in a PE, the officer, killer body, in that vending, rib, and knees, restaurant, including her, her uniform patrol car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't look.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't run a polygraph on a pregnant woman.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guarantee they can't kill one, I mean, it's not like you're going to get pregnant when you're 35 years into your death sentence, Marie, the NPD also stayed with her.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Marie Antoinette Frank, she's still in death right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now she gets knocked up, or she's on death row, or what she's on woman's prison death row.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you get knocked up while you're on death row.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure they'll give you another nine months to have the baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't have to, there's no fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't, I don't think she's old now.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's my age, but the,
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I come on, anybody in the world will have an objection to a female being execute with a baby inside her belly, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do one more defraut question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do death row inmates have to wear diapers?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, some death row inmates who are about to be executed where execution diapers, that's actually a term, to collect bodily fluids expelled during and after their death.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, y'all, I can't say that it happens in every single case,
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I can't say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say I almost every one, but I would say a majority of the people, the deaths that I've worked, whether it's suicide or murder or whatever, when you die, you, your body, you know, if you're bladders full or whatever, sometimes they defecate, you just, your body relaxes and your bowels release, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, maybe some people that are, some of the case of work, they, but they didn't have full bowels or they had empty bowels and a empty bladder, what have you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, look, something's questions are just stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what it says, how do death row inmates feel?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a fucking think they feel, but it must read this, because that, some of I actually took the time to write this, and now I'm gonna end it on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Many death row prisoners suffer from mental illness.
[SPEAKER_00]: In research indicates that the isolation on death rates, mental health conditions, older inmates also suffer from increasing physical disabilities that often complicate their executions.
[SPEAKER_00]: This comes from the conditions on death rate, death penalty, information center.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, I'm pretty sure if you don't death row, you're not in a really good place.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, mentally.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also sure that if you're on death row, you're there for a very, very, very serious reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I also know, including one of the old, but I think now the longest,
[SPEAKER_00]: running guy, if you will, the longest staying out in Defra in the Louisiana was because he and his lover raved to murder a little boy and lived in Paris.
[SPEAKER_00]: His lover actually died natural causes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been on Defra so long.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean,
[SPEAKER_00]: older inmates are going to suffer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell, you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: My back is hurting today.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's because I'm 56 years old and the older inmates are going to suffer from physical disabilities.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now a lot of them do die on death right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask that question.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many death row inmates have died of old age before being executed?
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I found.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, this one's from the death pill and the information center.
[SPEAKER_00]: The British, I'm saying, ooh, I can't believe they did this.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said that title of this article is the agent of death row raises humanitarian and practical concerns as Alabama executes an 80, 3 year old prisoner.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder the thing for them, they better go on that far.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to read about this case and then I'll turn it off.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said one year after executing the 75-year-old Thomas Arthur, Alabama, on April 19, executed 83-year-old Walter Moody, who is the oldest person and only octogenarian.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what that means.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to look it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Put to death in the United States since execution is represented in 1977.
[SPEAKER_00]: attempt to execute prisoners, deabilitate about physical and cognitive appearance by aging, had proven problematic in any way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what, if somebody has full my father, I'm forcing, if full bone, blood and paranoid dementia, there'd be the point that's keeping them right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because you just, I mean,
[SPEAKER_00]: they're not there, they don't, they wouldn't even know, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, good Lord, some of these are actually pretty bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in the other case, they said after canceling his previously scheduled cancer surgery to issue a death warrant, Alabama failed for two and a half hours to set an intervenious line to execute gravely, or 61-year-old,
[SPEAKER_00]: his lawyer removed to borrow the state from trying to second time, describing the failed attempt this torture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell them about trying to execute in a second time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Ohio tried and failed to execute terminally ill. 69 year old Ale Campbell in November of 2017.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he then died at his terminal illness on morse a third.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in late January, 2018, the US Supreme Court halted.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alabama, Skeleton X, Houston, 60-70-year-old Vernon Madison, who is legally blind in continent and unable to walk independently, and suffers from basculid dementia, caused by strokes that are left him, no memory of the offense for which he has sent us to death.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there you have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I'm getting off of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love and appreciate you, everyone else, hopefully you never have to be a victim of a crime or the crimes so serious that you have to write wait for somebody on death row to receive the ultimate punishment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all I got, but I love and appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's every one of y'all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for liking, listening to Sharon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just hang in there, y'all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hang in there, but you can always call on your tips.
[SPEAKER_00]: Three, one, three, are LRC tip.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe a lot of these cases that the tips that y'all continue to call in,
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, actually make the best case to take longer because then these chips have to be investigated when they're passed one and that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind right get them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get them one time get them correct.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only way it should be done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, justice is justice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm Woody Oates and you have to true cram time for Thursday, August 27th, 26th, a hot-chiller piece.