Lindsay Clancy's Mother Testifies She Warned Them a Month Before, the First Witnesses in the Tupac Trial, No September Mangione Trial
The Commonwealth rested its case against Lindsay Clancy on Monday after four weeks and more than seventy witnesses, and the defense opened by calling her family. Her mother, Paula Musgrove, testified that Clancy texted her in October 2022 asking her to come stay — "I'm really sick. Something is wrong" — and that in December, standing in the kitchen with Clancy and her then-husband, her daughter said she had thoughts of harming the children. On cross, Musgrove told prosecutors she was not concerned for the children's safety at the time "because I was there." Clancy's sister, Allison Ozga, described a decline beginning at Thanksgiving. Clancy has pleaded not guilty to three counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 8 months, and contests criminal responsibility. Also: in Las Vegas, the first witnesses testified in the murder trial of Duane Davis in the 1996 killing of Tupac Shakur, including a retired officer who rode in the ambulance with Shakur. And in Manhattan, Judge Gregory Carro set an October 9 deadline for the district attorney's response and a December 10 hearing on Luigi Mangione's motion to dismiss the state murder case, taking the September 8 trial off the calendar.
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Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 1: This is Daily Crime and Justice from Calaroga Shark Media
powered by AI. I'm Garrett Fischer. Today is Wednesday, August nineteenth,
twenty twenty six. For four weeks in Plymouth, Massachusetts, the
commonwealth has been building a case that Lindsay Clancy knew
exactly what she was doing. Fourteen days of testimony, more
than seventy witnesses, phone records, watch data, search history, autopsy photographs,
a timeline built minute by minute from a dead woman's
step count. On Monday morning, the prosecution rested, and then
for the first time in this trial, the other side
got to put on witnesses, not cross examine, not object,
actually stand up and call people to the stand and
ask them what they saw and who did Kevin Reddington
call first, not an expert, not a psychiatrist with a
curriculum viti as long as your arm. He called her family,
her sister, her mother, and on Tuesday, her former mother
in law, the woman who used to be her nurse
colleague and is now the grandmother of the three children
she killed. Look, I'm going to be honest with you.
That is not an accident. That is a strategy because
for four weeks this jury has been looking at data,
and data does not cry on the witness stand.
Speaker 2: Data does not say.
Speaker 1: The words she was begging for help a grandmother does.
We have got three big cases moving today, and all
three of them turned this week. Clancy and Plymouth, the
Tupac Shakur murder trial finally putting witnesses on the stand
in Las Vegas thirty years late. And in Manhattan, a
judge just pulled Luigi Mengioni's September murder trial off the calendar,
and now there is a real question about whether that
trial ever happens. Let's start in Plymouth before anything else.
The names Cora Clancy was five years old, Dawson Clancy
was three, Callan Clancy was eight months old.
Speaker 2: They were killed in.
Speaker 1: The basement of their home on Summer Street in Duxbury, Massachusetts,
on January twenty fourth, twenty twenty three, with exercise bands.
Their mother has admitted she did it. Lindsey Clancy, now
thirty six, has pleaded not guilty to three counts of murder.
That plea is not a denial that she killed them.
Her attorney has told this jury from the start that
she did.
Speaker 2: What she disputes is.
Speaker 1: Whether she can be held criminally responsible, whether she was
in the grip of postpartum psychosis and bipolar illness at
the time, and whether the medications prescribed to her by
the people she went to for help made all of
it worse. That is the whole case, not who, not how,
just whether the law can hold her accountable for it.
So here is where things stand. Monday morning, the Commonwealth
called its last witness, a forensic exams emmin are named
Ian Whiffin, who works for Kellibright and who is testified
in both of the Karen Reid trials. His job was
the timeline and he walked the jury through the minutes
when Patrick Clancy was out of the house picking up
a takeout order and a prescription. The Apple watch recorded
a heart rate of fifty seven at five point twenty
three in the evening. The last movement the device is
captured was a trip up two flights of stairs, ending
at five point thirty eight. After that nothing, Lindsey Clancy
was found outside the house on the ground after cutting
herself and going out a second story window. Wiffin also
testified about search history. In the week before the killings.
There were searches on her phone about ketamine for suicidal thinking,
and the next day searches for the symptoms of postpartum psychosis. Now,
prosecutors put that in front of the jury for a
reason they wanted to read as a woman researching the
defense she would later use. Reddington wants it to read
as a woman trying to figure out what was happening
inside her own head. Same search, two completely different stories.
And on cross Reddington did what he has done all trial,
which is attack the completeness of the record. He established
that the phone and the watch stopped reporting data at
five point thirty eight, and that nobody can say what
happened after that. He held up an Apple watch and
asked the witness if he had ever seen it before.
The witness said no and explained that they pull watch
data off the SINC phone, not the watch itself. Then
the Commonwealth rested and the defense stood up. The first
witnesses were the people who loved her. Margaret hamp a
labor and delivery nurse at Massachusetts General who worked alongside her,
Her sister Alison Osga, who testified that when she saw
Lindsay at Thanksgiving of twenty twenty two, her mood was
not good and that by December she seemed to have
decompensated badly. Ozga said she asked her sister directly whether
she was safe. Her sister told her she was. Then
Paula Musgrove took the stand, Lindsey Clancy's mother. Musgrove told
the jury that the change started in the second week
of October twenty twenty two. On October twentieth, her daughter
sent her a text message, and the jury saw it
on a screen in the courtroom. Reported by ABC News,
it read, in part, mom, will you please come up
and stay with me for a bit? She wrote that
she was really sick, that something was wrong, that she
had not slept, and that she did not want to
be alone. Musgrove went and stayed for a week. She
and her husband were both still working, and she told
a jury that when she got there, her daughter was,
in her words to court TV's cameras, afraid to be
alone and actually asked whether she could sleep in the
same bed as her mother. Think about that for a second.
A thirty five year old labor and delivery nurse, a
woman who spent her career walking other women through the
worst pain of their lives, asking her mom if she
can sleep in her bed because she is too frightened
to be by her self in her own house. Musgrove
testified that her daughter had lost a lot of weight,
that she said she could not remember anything, that she
told her family the medication was destroying her mind, that
this was not her and that she just wanted to
feel better and enjoy her kids again. And then the
moment that landed hardest. Musgrove told the jury that in
December of twenty twenty two, about a month before the
children died, she was standing in the kitchen with her
daughter and her son in law, and Lindsey told them
both that she was having thoughts of harming the children.
She said it out loud to her mother and her
husband a month ahead of time. Now the Commonwealth is
going to use that. They will argue that a woman
who can identify the thought, articulate the thought, and warn
her family about the thought is a woman who understands
the difference between right and wrong. That is a real argument,
and I am not going to pretend it isn't. But
the defense is going to use the exact same sentence.
And here is how she told them. She told her mother,
she told her husband, and over the preceding months, she
told a psychiatrist, a nurse practitioner, a mental health counselor,
and a five day in patient program at McLain Hospital.
She raised her hand over and over again, and in
January she was still sick, still medicated, still spiraling, and
three children were still in that house. That is the
argument Reddington is making, and it is not a small one.
Monday afternoon, the defense called its first expert, doctor Michael Wulfovich,
an emergency physician at Newton Wellesley Hospital who did not
treat Clancy but reviewed her records. He described what came
into the hospital that night. She was unresponsive and not
speaking intelligibly. Doctors were worried she could not breathe on
her own and intubated her. She was severely hypothermic. She
had multiple fractures in her neck and mid back. After
she was moved to Brigham and Women's, she went into
full cardiac arrest and needed two rounds of CPR. He
testified that her injuries were consistent with self injurious behavior
and then asked about what she meant to do. He
said this, and I quote Boston Dot COM's account of
it the intent. I can't gauge that matters because prosecutors
have spent this trial suggesting her suicide attempt was not serious.
Two rounds of CPR says otherwise. The Commonwealth did not
cross examine him at all. Tuesday morning, the defense called
Susan Clancy, Patrick's mother, a nurse practitioner in labor and
delivery at south Shore Hospital for thirty eight years. She
testified that in the fall of twenty twenty two, her
daughter in law came to her and that she was
quote begging for help. She said Lindsay described insomnia, loss
of appetite, deep anxiety, and sadness, and Susan Clancy did
the thing a nurse does. She got her into a program.
She referred her to South Shore's Perinatal Behavioral Health Program,
the program built specifically for mothers in exactly that situation.
She also described Lindsay as nurturing, loving, a wonderful mother
who loved all three of her children very much. On
cross prosecutors made a point of establishing that the children
never came to her house for sleepovers, that the family
thought it was best for the kids to stay in
their own home. And that when help was needed, Lindsay's
parents came to them. After Susan Clancy stepped down, the
defense moved to a forensic expert, doctor Michael Lapisada, and
immediately ran into a fight. Reddington had diagrams showing how
his client landed and the injuries that followed, including a
fracture at the top of the spine. Prosecutors objected that
the drawings put the window well in the wrong place.
Reddington said the measurements were taken and the drawings are accurate,
and that being off by a few inches does not
change anything. That was the state of play as we
went to record. One more thing you should know because
it is going to shape how this verdict gets received,
no matter which way it goes. Court TV reports that
an online fundraiser started by a TikTok user for Lindsay
Clancy's parents has pulled in more than eight hundred thousand
dollars with a stated goal of two million, and across
social media, the sentiment has run heavily in her favor,
with a fair amount of it aimed at the prosecutors.
I want to be careful here. Nobody on the internet
has sat in that courtroom for four weeks. Nobody on
the Internet has seen the autopsy photographs. The jury has seen.
Twelve people in Plymouth are going to decide this, and
they are going to decide it on evidence and on
a jury instruction about criminal responsibility, not on a hashtag.
And whichever way it goes. Understand what an acquittal here
actually means. If this jury finds Lindsey Clancy not criminally responsible,
she does not walk out the door. She goes to
a state psychiatric hospital, and she comes up for periodic review,
potentially for the rest of her life. That is the
outcome the defense is fighting for, not freedom, a hospital
instead of a prison. Cora Dawson Callen five three and
eight months old. Someone has to say their names. Tupakamaru
Shakur was twenty five years old. He was a rapper,
an actor, a poet, a man whose work took on
social justice and street life and what it meant to
be a black man in America, and thirty years after
his death, he is still one of the most influential
artists this country has produced. On the night of September seventh,
nineteen ninety six, he was in Las Vegas for a
Mike Tyson Fight.
Speaker 2: He was in the passenger seat of a.
Speaker 1: Black BMW driven by Marion suge Knight, the head of
death Row Records. They stopped at a light near the show.
A white Cadillac pulled up alongside them, and someone inside
started shooting. Shakur was hit multiple times. He died in
the hospital six days later on September thirteenth, and then
for twenty seven years nothing, no charges, nobody. Dwayne Keith Davis,
known as KEFID, sixty three years old, was indicted in
twenty twenty three. He is the first and only person
ever charged in this killing. He is pleaded not guilty,
and on Monday morning in a Clark County courtroom in
downtown Las Vegas, this case finally got in front of
a jury. Let me be precise about the charge, because
outlets have described it different ways. Davis is charged with
murder with a deadly weapon with a gang related enhancement.
Speaker 2: Prosecutors are not saying he pulled the trigger.
Speaker 1: Their theory is that he supplied the gun and directed
the shooting from the front seat of that Cadillac. Chief
Deputy District Attorney Binu Palal told the jury this was,
in his words, act of revenge. Hours earlier, that same night,
Shakur and members of his entourage had beaten Davis's nephew,
Orlando Anderson at the MGM. Grand prosecutors say what followed
was retaliation and that the jury is going to hear
about it from Davis himself because for two and a
half decades, Davis has talked. He talked to a task
force in two thousand and eight, he talked to BET
on camera in twenty eighteen, and in twenty nineteen he
published a memoir describing that night in detail. The defense
position is exactly what you would expect, and it is
not a weak one. Attorney Michael samp told jurors that
what the state is calling fact is really fiction. Quoted
by NPR, he said, flatly, there's no facts. His argument
is that Davis was never charged for all those years
because investigators knew what he was saying was not reliable.
He argued the book was written to make money, that
a co writer may have penned most of it, and
he pointed at missing documents in the original investigation and
at distrust between police departments. And then the state started
calling witnesses, and this is where you feel the thirty years.
The first witness was Gary Dale, who spent twenty five
years with Las Vegas Metro and was working the bike
team that night. He testified that before the shooting he
stopped a black BMW because it had no visible license plate,
that the two men inside identified themselves as Tupac Shakur
and Suge Night, and that he told them to put
the plate back on and let them go. He never
wrote a report about it. Later that night he heard
the shots fired call and responded, and he wrote in
the ambulance with a wounded Tupac Shakur. He testified that
when he asked who had done it, Shakur told him, quote,
we'll take care of it. That is a twenty five
year old man shot four times, telling a police officer
that this would be handled outside the system. Six days
later he was dead, and for thirty years he was right.
Nobody handled it. The second witness was Ingrid Stokes, who
was in the car directly ahead of the BMW on
her way with friends to the same club Shakur and
Night were headed to. She described the sound of the
gunfire on cross soft asked whether anyone in her car
had been yelling Tupac's name, and she said no. She
said Knight, and Shakur looked relaxed, that Shakur was not
hanging out the window, that there was no crowd around
the car, and then something happened that you do not
see in most states. A juror submitted a written question,
which Nevada allows after cross examination, asking Stokes whether she
could tell which direction the shots came from.
Speaker 2: She said no.
Speaker 1: The third witness was retired Metro homicide detective Brent Becker,
who testified by video for close to two hours and
whose testimony is the most damning thing in this trial
so far, but not about Dwayne Davis. It is about
the investigation. Becker testified that he was called to the
scene the day after the shooting before Shakur had even died,
which he described as unusual because homicide did not get
called out unless there was a body. He said he
began locking his case files in his desk and putting
records on a floppy disk instead of sending them to
the records department because he believed information was leaking and
he had come back to find things on his desk moved.
He testified that everyone connected to this crime was in California,
and that he made ten or twelve trips out there
trying to talk to people, and every time he tried
death row records, he got the run around, and souge Knight,
who was in the car, who was himself shot that night,
and who was on paper the victim of an attempted murder,
did not come in. Becker testified it took several days
that night, missed at least one scheduled interview, and that
when he finally showed up, he brought three attorneys with him.
Becker told the jury he believed Knight was not telling
the truth and knew nothing useful. There is a playbook
for this, not for the shooting, for what came after.
Everybody who could have solved this in nineteen ninety six
had a reason not to talk to the police, and
the police had reason not to trust each other. And
thirty years went by and three of the four men
in that cadillac died. The final witness Monday was Fred Miller,
a retired LAPD investigator who was assigned in nineteen ninety
seven to the murder of Christopher Wallace, the rapper known
as the Notorious Big who was shot and killed in
Los Angeles, six months after Shakor Miller had received information
that Davis might be a suspect in that case. Jurors
heard a forty minute recorded interview between the two men
and saw a polaroid photograph of Davis and Orlando Anderson
that was found in the trunk of a Chevrolet and
Paula in Compton during that investigation. Here is the part
that matters, and I want to be very clear about it,
because it is easy to hear that testimony and draw
a conclusion that the court has specifically told the jury
not to draw. Davis was never charged in the killing
of Christopher Waller, and with prosecutors agreeing, the judge instructed
the jury directly that police do not believe Davis was
involved in that murder. Court adjourned Monday afternoon and resumed
Tuesday morning. Prosecutors have signaled they intend to call somewhere
between thirty five and forty five witnesses, and this trial
is expected to run about a month. Tupac's sister, Sakiwa Shakur,
sat in the gallery Monday with other members of the family.
Asked afterward what the day had been like, she said
it was a lot of information to take in thirty years.
That family has been waiting thirty years to hear. A
witness sworn in Tupac Shakur was twenty five. Someone has
to say his name. Brian Thompson was fifty years old.
He was the chief executive of United Healthcare. He lived
in Maple Grove, Minnesota, and he had two teenage sons.
On the morning of December fourth, twenty twenty four, he
was walking to his company's investor conference in midtown Manhattan
when he was shot from behind on a public sidewalk
last Friday, in a federal court room in Manhattan, with
Thompson's mother and his wife sitting in the front row,
Luigi Mangoni pleaded guilty two federal stalking counts, interstate stalking
resulting in death and stalking through interstate facilities resulting in death.
He admitted following Thompson to that conference, and he said
in open court quote, I shot mister Thompson in Manhattan.
Speaker 2: And he died nine words.
Speaker 1: After nearly two years of a national argument about this case,
the man at the center of it stood up and
said it out loud. Federal sentencing is set for December eighteenth,
prosecutors say they will seek life. The federal guidelines for
what they are worth call for something in the range
of twenty four to thirty years. And here is where
it gets legally interesting, because Mangoni also faces a step
at state murder prosecution in Manhattan, brought by District Attorney
Alvin Bragg second degree murder and weapons charges. He is
pleaded not guilty to those That trial was supposed to
start on September eighth. It is not starting on September eighth.
The moment that federal plea was entered, Man Jones lawyers
filed to have the state case thrown out on double
jeopardy and due process grounds, and on Monday, Judge Gregory
Carro issued an order giving Bragg's office until October ninth
to respond and setting a hearing for December tenth, that
is eight days before MANGEONI is sentenced in federal court.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I want to be careful with the language here, because
different outlets have framed this differently. The Associated Press describes
the trial as canceled and postponed indefinitely. CNN's rid is
more technical, that the order does not formally adjourn the trial,
but that it cannot go forward until the judge rules
the practical effect is the same. There is no September
murder trial, so double jeopardy. You have heard the phrase
your whole life, and most of what you have heard
about it is wrong. Under the federal Constitution, the states
and the federal government are separate sovereigns, and being prosecuted
by both for the same conduct is generally allowed. If
this were happening in most states, the state case would
simply proceed, But New York is not most states. New
York has written into its own statute some of the
strongest protections in the country against exactly this. A state
prosecution here can be barred when a federal case arising
out of the same criminal transaction ends in a guilty plea,
or once a federal jury is sworn. Mangioni's lawyers are
arguing that the conduct is the same conduct. Their filing
says the stalking offense and the murder are coterminous, that
traveling from out of state to be at that corner
at that hour does not somehow separate the stalking from
the killing, that it is all one criminal transaction. They
have described their client as a pawn caught between two
prosecutors' offices. Office says no. Their position is that the
state charges involve different legal elements and different conduct, and
one of their stated reasons for fighting is straightforward. Nobody
knows yet what sentence the federal judge is going to impose,
and there is a real legal answer here, not just
a rhetorical one. New York statute carves out exceptions, including
where the two offenses have substantially different elements, or where
they are aimed at preventing very different kinds of harm.
Bennett Gershman, a law professor at PACE, told Reuters he
thinks it is unlikely the case gets dismissed on these grounds,
and his reasoning is clean. Federal stocking requires an intent
to kill, but does not require that anybody actually die.
Murder requires a death. Those are not the same elements.
I think that is probably right, But I also think
Mangioni's lawyers are making a serious argument, not a stunt.
And however, Judge Kara rules the losing side appeals, so
we are potentially a long way from finished. Here's what
actually bothers me about all of this. For twenty months,
this case has been a national Rorschach Test, there were sweatshirts,
there were fan accounts, There were people treating an assassination
on a Manhattan sidewalk as some kind of opening salvo
in a debate about health insurance. And there is a
real debate to be had about health insurance in this country,
and it is an important one, and none of it
was ever going to be settled by shooting a man
in the back on his way to work. Brian Thompson's
family put out a statement after that plea, calling it,
in their words, an important step toward justice. They also
noted that proceedings in New York and Pennsylvania are still
ahead of them and that they intend to keep going,
which means this family gets to do this again and
possibly again after that. They have a federal sentencing in December,
a state case in Limbo, and a third case in Pennsylvania,
and every single one of those hearings is another day
where they sit in a courtroom and hear their husband
and father described as a target. Nobody was paying attention
to him, not really. There was an enormous amount of
attention paid to this case, and almost none of it
landed on the fifty year old man on the sidewalk
with two teenage sons at home.
Speaker 2: Brian Thompson. Someone has to say his name.
Speaker 1: Three cases, three courtrooms, and every one of them turning
on the same question in a different costume. What does
the law actually require before it can hold a person responsible?
In Plymouth, it is whether a sick woman can be
In Las Vegas, it is whether a thirty year old
confession is enough to prove it. In Manhattan, it is
whether one guilty plea is enough to close the door
on everybody else's case. We will be back tomorrow with
all three. Before you go, If this episode was useful
to you, do me a favor and think of one
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One person, the friend who has been following the Clancy trial,
the person in your life who grew up on Tupac,
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Send it to them that one message does more for
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Take care of each other. A note on sources and standards.
This episode was assembled from courtroom reporting by Court TV,
Boston twenty five News, The Boston Globe, Boston dot Com, CNN,
The Associated Press, NPR, CBS News, ABC News, Reuters, and
the Las Vegas Review Journal, along with courtroom feeds from
all three proceedings.
Speaker 2: Several matters require disclosure.
Speaker 1: In the Clancy trial, Tuesday session in Plymouth was still
underway when this episode was recorded, and testimony after the
mid morning break is not reflected here. One published account
of Monday's testimony dated the children's debts to January twenty
twenty two. The correct date, confirmed across all other reporting
and court records is January twenty fourth, twenty twenty three.
Accounts also vary on whether Susan Clancy referred her daughter
in law to the perinatal program or connected her to
it through another provider, and Lindsey Clancy's age has been
reported as both thirty five and thirty six, depending on
the outlet and the date of publication. In the Las
Vegas case, coverage has described Dwayne Davis's charge variously as
one count of murder with a deadly weapon and as
first degree murder with a deadly weapon with intent to
promote or assist a criminal gang. These describe the same indictment,
with differing degrees of specificity. Some published accounts have also
stated that the trial began on August tenth. Jury selection
began August tenth. Opening statements were Monday, August seventeen. At
least the one published account misdated the shooting to February
of nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: It occurred on September seven.
Speaker 1: This episode does not repeat claims made in Dwayne Davis's
memoir regarding other individuals who have never been charged in
connection with this case, including allegations involving a name music
executive who has publicly denied any involvement. Those claims are contested.
They originate with the defendant himself, and the defendant's own
attorney has told this jury the book is unreliable. Dwayne
Davis has pleaded not guilty and is presumed innocent. Lindsey
Clancy has pleaded not guilty, and the question of her
criminal responsibility is for the jury alone. Luigi Mangione has
pleaded guilty in the federal case and has pleaded not
guilty in the state case, which remains pending. Nothing in
this episode should be taken as a prediction of any outcome.
This episode discusses postpart of mental illness, suicide, and the.
Speaker 2: Deaths of children.
Speaker 1: If you are struggling, the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline
is free, confidential and available at all hours by call
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Speaker 1: If you are someone you know as having thoughts of suicide,
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